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cant be me
I think she went to sleep
vesa is a chick?
I dunno
@wheat jay any maps where you play around frost/lock differently
against mage on tol viron going someone else can be nice
with locks on mugambala you probably wanna play up
and if they go down they have cc'd themselves
Well i play survi so not really
^
Smh youre bizarre
wdym
Anything for Nokhud/Xuen? Been getting that one a lot recently
just lovely to watch a lock port upstairs, a monk can skytouch right to them and i have to walk around because leap is finnicky as shit .-.
Leap you need to use on the very edge to jump up xd
it feels like rng i swear
what do you mean by this
just stay up
they cant hit anybody
theyve basically cc'd themselves
then they have to teleport back up or wack slowly
walk*
and if they tp up
then you can train them even if they go down
nokhud is a gay map
i dont like it
in xuen idk what i do i just kinda play the game
i also struggle a lot more with mages on xuen then other maps i've noticed
or just casters as a whole on that map
los them more
then how do i kill them
if you dont have cds rolling
and they are cranking oyu
you*
just los
wont kill anyway
what talents are you running into them btw
for lock i swap caco, commander and move speed for wrecking and demolition
dont ever run demolition over commander
its awful
and lock cd and wrecking throw cd line up anyway
the utility you get from commander is too good
also falality is ass run fbv instead
swapping caco and move speed for wrecking thow is fine tho
i do the same
oh i do this too
sorry forgor that
i run it into lock but not mage/pally/dh
or rogue
dont drop fbv tho
you become paper without it
if you need fatality you can drop improved execute
how do we play monks?
against them or playing the class
against
depends on the comp
but swapping them feels pretty good
dont hit into karma
cc serenity
How do I swap more effectively?
Tab, ms
You have VERY easy time swapping as warrior
Your peak swap is storm bolting
Other than that just continue with rotation
arms defo does
Fury needs one or two globals more to get rage and slaughterhouse
But it's still on the easier side
Survi has harder time
frenzy stacks
slaughterhouse stacks
battle trance
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Mglad mage 3k xp LF warrior for WMD after reset (currently 2300cr) - Message me π
WMD?
for that matchup or as a whole?
yeah
i dont really ever use fatality
it doesnt outweigh the cost imo
its as a whole
you cant drop fbv
So blizz is basically freely gives away mark of honors with that comp stomp, or whatβs the point?
to clarify 3v3 or shuffle as well?
just watched a DH save my teammate with imprison lmao
i think they were upset with the DH
ooo more saddles :D
Both
@fickle forge what should i have gotten?
2-4
It's a losing lobby
Yeah, or free honor for gear on fresh alts
typical wow design moment
stuck on a pillar
pillar humping on a new level
physically unable to move
lost the game
Honestly disagree with this
Heβs the only Mortal strike in the lobby, can 100% go 4-2 or even 6-0 if played right
Does anyone have deathwish weakaura where its easier to track?
Make one, itβs super easy with the presets that the WA add on has
yo guys
just thought about something
when war within comes out
do we get more talent points generally
or another row or what
bc if its another row of talent points shits gonna get even more complicated
Doesn't matter when you're against deva/mage though
Where new bonus specs
no
0-6 angle?
any info on how on earth can a warrior ever reach a hunter or a mage?
DDOS them
preist died
with ps unused
xD
this could be the 0-6 angle ngl
xD
BUILT DIFFERENT
ok 2-1
its looking a tiny bit better now xD
monks are immortal
cant kill that shit
3-2 O_O
prayge for 4-2
3-3
cuz my monk decided to stop using his brain
xD
better than 0-6
wish ms did this every time i pressed it
do you have the legendary?
Mglad mage 3k xp LF warrior for WMD after reset (currently 2300cr) - Message me π
Hello, is there any place in which I can find a pvp arms guide? is the one in wowhead updated?
No it's not
Look up gear and talents on murlok.io
How to play, watch laros really only warrior streaming etc I know
STACK CRIT
wowhead says so so you will follow your wowhead overlord
Don't listen to prot players
Started healing, you wouldnβt believe how real this is as a healer.
I noticed it when I climbed as arms every once in a while. I notice it every round as a healer. Smh
@fickle forge 1-5 Black Rook DH Ele Rsham Hpri Boomie what should I have gotten
And how do I play around intervene in groups with a ranged dps
and how to play around ele sham?
i think im good enough with my damage now, how can i optimise my utility?
no
so apparently my addons fucking up is a lie
because i need to justify my stupidity
Does anyone else have issues with narcissus and /cast macros?
How do we approach stealth lobbies?
Flat on the ground with a you lose ui popup
._.
u mean like openers?
stick next to your healer
or just go in fast try not to get sapped
If we Talking about rogue, stick to one of your teammates and when they get sap u can insta bladestorm, sometime the rogue will Not get tricked by it so u need to feel it when it will work
Or when you know they go u, u bs
lobbies with a combination of rogue, mage and hunter
Hunter u can find easily
Most of the time they want to open with stun on healer into trap
Mages idk, depends if u play shuffle or against rmp
In rmp mages used to invi into ring of Frost/dragon breath/poly from stealth, ofc on the no-kill targets
But now they just pump damage xd
Fear always arcane surge if its arcane into bolt if he trinket
how tf did you hit 290k
even funnier this dude told me to go dev, even though there was a monk that dropped to 50% and cocooned the dev and they still didnt swap to monk
i managed to kill the monk while DH was chasing dev to narnia lol
also it unironically is proving to be true that 1.9k is a harder bracket to push than 2k
already 2063 again
ah fuck i jinxed it
@fickle forge you know its funny how you can ask the people in a lobby what you have been doing wrong and they'll answer "nothing" yet you are losing every single game
Frost if you can hit it probs. But can just swap to surv if you're kited
It's a struggle. For me too
still better than I
Not by much. I'm struggling in the 2100-2200 range
and im still struggling in the 1.9k-2k range .-.
surely gonna drop lower given the time of night tbh
i swear it's worse during the OCE nighttime hours
is that just me?
Always comes back around to you fotm rolling huh? π
not gonna lie
i have no idea how that happens every time
Don't worry, we do
i mean
i always roll stuff before the buffs happen
also im strongly thinking about going full mastery on survi
cuz of mongoose bite buffs
then talents for mongoose will be played again
so tahts more dmg
then tier set in s4 will be about mongoose
like 25% or sth
and rn mongoose is like 60k
at 0 stacks
so s4
full mastery
could be like 200k+ mongoose bites xD
Agreed, let's get it nerfed 
i meaaaaaaaaan
it just got buffed
and thats assuming i'd go full mastery
could be fun
it would also increase dmg of everything other than bomb xD
xD
I do that sometimes, just I do it as arms
1- 0
crit sucks
im thinking of duels usually being like min and a half 2 min
would haste even be of enough value be4 it ends
.
yeah yeah fucking pvper
Lmao
what addon/program do you guys use to keep track of solo shuffle wins/losses even the comps from them and stuff. I have seen it around here posted before.. any help appreciated
idfk
i just did
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im gonna try to get #1 on fury
wont be ez
you gotta be dogshit to lose to devastation fury as rdru arms
at 2050 cr
idk how thats even possible
Cause they're 1500
u know how much burst devoker and fury do ?
wtf
not to mention they could pretty much channel while moving 24/7
disgusting class
uh
my evoker did 468k dmg broski
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Was all Ndogo
He's just farming 1500 players really
stop bullying low players...
bro i was fr just helping my friend learn pres and he qued dev
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yay finally rival
grats
ty
roughest season for me DF
now i can play around with something else.... ret mby?
btw not sure how things work but can you climb even if you lose more than you win?
In theory yes, effectively no tho
to some degree yes
i hate hpala
0 respect towards it
xD
dog spec
for dog people π
Sv?
Or change how sac works...
Sac, 15s of being free of cc
Sike 2nd sac
Oh no sacs ran out and they stunned me
Sike bop
Another bop
Then trinket
Then divine shield
has to be the worst design of all time
I'm inclined to agree because they just delete my cds
Which tbh, can we change colossus smash/warbreaker from a debuff on the enemy, to instead be a damage buff on the warrior?
Thanks
2nd sac???
guys
i have dreadful news
aug is viable
and actually isnt bad
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i just played into one
at 2350
and it made a ret and dh
go 2-4
i still went 4-2 like a G but still
dh and ret
2-4
Nah, it's pretty bad.
when was the last time you played into a good one
Although something like aug/fw/feral seems okay.
Yeah, or that.
because it was in the 10 second window where the dh didnt have any buttons to use
and im like 38% mast
i play ep too
i dont play recklessness but thats a crit chance not a dmg boost
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i play reck so i can get giga ms more often
i hate double storm
feels like reck actually gives u burst
i just do this ev game with reck
double bladestorm is op
It's shuffle though
bro either way
I mean what doesn't work in shuffle let's be real
You can RNG your way to some good lobbies
We got frost DKs on 2.7k
like 1
And like frost is awful lmao
Dude the top 11 spots for enh sham is held by 2 guys lmao
look at chillpills
the good ole "frost dk is impossible to play" literally rank 6
Why can I hit for 430k on my ret
because ret is the lords chosen
that guy is so annoying
They're all above 2350 though
There's like the same amount of augs as there are FDK above 2350
Both are awful specs
Cause they win
They must be good then
Most annoying for me is appying razorice with glacier advance as frost
I'm 99% sure FDK doesn't play GA
you donβt play that
also theyβre really good
I like both fury warr and frost dk. Cant decide what to play in s4, starting from 0 pvp skill
In both specs
idk if itβs current but you play with razorice runeforge if youβre playing shattering blade
Play frost dk
It's better than fury more often that not
Does anyone else hate games where their teammate is a rogue?
legit get so stressed out since i cant do anything if they're dying
and then your teammate dies on opener with trinket and all defensives
That happens regardless
fair
I wish I had that axe
I pray for mine to drop tonight
Just for transmog xD
Expensive tmog
Does the onuse even do more than 100k dam in PvP?
Not really
You rollin in it? Like 150k still
I got like 6 mill and that's still expensive to me 
Ye
Damn, I'd be a fotm reroller if I knew it paid so well
I don't even do pve anymore
I just do wqs when waiting for shuffle
Next expansion tho
Im 100% giga boosting m+
Ill stack a gold cap or two
Then chill for till 12.0
evolution at its finest
Tbh
Pve is more chill
Pvp is tryhard as fuck even when you play chill
Pve you just go in, bash the boss
Do some keys
Chill
Almost like it's easier
exactly
It do be easier
last mythic bosses are usually hard
ye cuz its scripted
but so is pvp on higher level
Hardest part is getting the other people to do it right lul
real lol
Artji peaked CE
Artji peaked glad
Glad = CE
Confirmed
I have a CE. Haven't managed to find a trio long enough to push glad tho 
1400 games
Tried doing 1 shuffle on my alt's alt spec and got 300 mmr from one lobby
Shuffle is the easiest
im likable enough that my teammates just cant find anyone else to play with and have as much fun as with me 
I might have not even pugged 1400 3s games in my career 
1 Seif alt worth of Qs
tf is ce
https://gyazo.com/f1e335580b1a2dacf2cd94a2f14e3280 why the "minimum" tho , just couldnt help thinking there's a maximum
cutting edge
achievement for killing last boss of a tier on mythic
what is even that
oh
boring
professional naptime milestone
glad cooler
debatable
nah
Who knows. Hardly anyone does 3s so
Not sure it's that kind of an angle lol
Just rough to find people who don't quit after a loss.
that doesnt even get baalnced
cuz noone bothers to obtain the skill required
noone bothers to learn every spec
and how to play around them
positioning
trading
etc
yeah lets just go kill the same boss every teusday and listen to the same bs
while tank absorbs all hits
its an annoying chore thats only there to get people elite armor
or elite weapons
then dont play lmfao
well
thats why people dont play it
theres a reason its a dying content
lets not forget the fact that its also just not balanced
in the slightest
xD
imagine you're new
you like to play lets say fire mage
and your homie plays preservation evoker
or something
and you want to do 2s
but every game is outlaw or havoc
with rdruid
so now you also need to outplay people playing better comps
the reason pve doesnt get balanced is bc it doesnt matter
its hardly competitive
all just doing the same dmg
to the same boss
at the same time
pve brings more viewers to its esport than pvp
during the same mechanics
rwf is also the biggest wow event
wtf is even that
raid to world first
literally biggest event in wow
that brings the most viewers
then there's mdi
and tgp
which also bring more people than awc
A lot of people
like who
more people watch that than awc
Me my whole guild
where you see 3v3 and someone just dies
Other people I've met
and noone knows why
someone pull up the bfa awc meme video please
nobody watches them
fucking MDI is unwatchable
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How can you take pvp seriously when DH had been level 74 for months now?
thank you
exact same comp every team
real
did you watch 1st TGP tho?
man that was content ngl
TGP? lol
might be the time to nerf corruptions in pvp?
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@grand scaffold
the great push xD
1st season was mad good
in shadowlands
instead of doing keys fastest, they pushed to highest key
Shadowlands was really boring for me so I quit after S2
U don't watch for comp u watch for strats the finals are boring as shit tho since all strats already out and people just trying to minmax
idk what any of this bs is
watch the video O_O
neither, because it's Shadowlands content apparently
why
that video is one the reasons people dont care about pvp
i can just play wow why watch it
wow Ion wasn't so round back then
dude pve is more effective than rufees tbh
gotta take caffein and a half to survive 5 minutes
ngl really worried about these survival hunter buffs. i seem to not do too well against them
magazines more entertaining
meh
warr crushes them anyway
oh
how come
good 
ill enjoy them
are you going d stance during traps?
i actually want surv to be good
would be a nice change
I feel like they do a lot of damage
interesting
and I do not swap d stance well enough
I will have to do that better
I dont think they needed any buffs tbh
they are very powerful already though
all 3 hunter specs very powerful
no
mm is mid
survi is good
surv is good not great
nah all 3 are in good spots
no
even mm
no
yes it is true
no it isnt
its not easy to play
mm is an rbg spec
but they def fine
oh im talking only ss
survival def more fine though
that alone says enough
it is
im prob gonna start playing surv since i get to throw grenades at people
they just seem very well rounded
their problem isnt damage
I guess I am wrong on my opinions since I cannot seem to do very well against them
Mm kinda just dies to air
surv less tanky bc it cant kite and do dmg
yeah hunter defensiveness is their main issue fair enough
that sounds atrocious
did they nerf blur
no
kinda hate that ability
Replace their self heal with blur
gotta shake the meta xD
Warrior bubble on 1 min cd when? is the real question
All warrior specs should have 20sec purgatory by default
once i get glad its time to learn outlaw rogue
Ill take any form of survivability for survival xD
exactly
its way too high
The yip yap going wild
legit atrocious
They're all cheating on me with this cord as you can see
Well i would suggest finding new ones on the dh discord. Theyre really easy to piss off like the ones you just unfortunately lost π
anybody notice galachad left
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I got banned on mage cord after 1 msg smh
what did you say
0.1% doesnt matter
Hello everyone
I only play male human characters, specially warrior with a longsword like in every rpg. Every time I go to a bar, party, or any social event in general, I try my best to avoid telling people what I do. Every time I tell women I'm an arms warrior main they start hitting on me. Last week I went to a friend's birthday party. Told his sister I was a male human arms warrior main. She kept asking me to "colossus smash her" and "spear her" in a flirtatious manner. This is a big reoccurring problem. It's gotten so bad that I tell women "I only play female dh elf" and that "I trinket chains of ice" so they will stop hitting on me all the time, however, this just makes all the men try to hit on me.
Any advice on how to stop attracting so many women as a male human arms warrior main?
So they didn't get you any tips?
What'd you do to him this time?
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i told him he spreads misinformation too much
just off the top of my head the time he said 40% vers was a good idea
or how he directly tells people to use the wrong tier set
Ya know guys
Itβs really cringe to just go into other cords to cause issues cause bored
And then going βtheyβre really easy to piss offfff what snowflakesβ when you annoy them to no end for a few days
Lotta wars do higher vers nowadays
i have not seen 1 dude run 40%
Mage player identified
opinion rejected
Disgusting Iβm not a filthy wizard
Imagine being a clothy
bro i just checked mutual servers and one of them is altered time
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nah just ndogo
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lol
rem doesnt know the lore
Nope I donβt 
Was just lurking in the pvp channels for a bit pre buff
To soak up potential knowledge before startin
what do you main?
Ret but thatβs probably a non option
ret 
Ret is fine atm
Mud just hates ret because he plays mage
noted
ill still search around for a spec that suits me tho cause idk i want to branch out from ret
if you like ret
So like everyone else this season, you're going to suddenly find a love for DH? lol
then try surv or arms
nah havoc isnt my bread and butter. i would pvp as vengif anything
besides any channel that has "insert anime profile pick" as a regular is a hard avoid
:3
someone messged my boomkin "crossrez" after a game what does this mean?
Never heard this term
bro i shit on their carpet and smeared it in with a large mop brush before they banned me lmfao
no joke mages are worse pussies than dhs LOL
atleast dh mods let me make fun of people unlike mage discord
Mage cord is def twink island
and i like how the anger addicts in the monk discord require a phone number just to chat in there LMFAO
and you thought warriors could be angry oh ho ho imagine the holes in their walls
Gnome if you lack self respect
But if you have any, you will find it hard to play
Orc is second anyways
we love this
Did you hit the dummy?
still? didn't they balanced the game last week? (haven't read the notes)
Fury warrior heroe talents announced this next blue post??
Noone knows
wuts best arms burst rotation
rampage raging blow raging blow rampage
legit
had a game where ret didnt use bubble for first 4 games
used them the last two and won both
POV; same lobby as the bad healer
The worst thing to be with the bad healer in the first 3 rounds and then he leaves xd
blizz needs to rework solo shuffle team RNG
have the dps alternate healers each round or something idk
2 draws?
first 3 rounds lost with bad healer, got the good healer for last 3 but the bad healer left after round 4
Push
finally not getting punished for leavers
dude
if i get 2.1k tonight
im logging off
set up perfectly for tomorrow
how small are the DH nerfs?
in general whats the look for the pvp tuning changes
are we favoured?
not the worst
this was a cursed lobby
DK and DH didn't understand how cocoon works
both swapped to monk ENTIRELY after cocoon
Dk also hit people standing in darkness...
but some other specs are also buffed
how's that for an arms perspective?
Cuz arms hates dh
yeah but i heard its only a minor change
and fire mage got buffed
they're frail but the burst
T-T
the damage is just scary
Just don't let em bust on you
Don't let the bust get in your face
but want :<
The plot thickens
Kinki 
Big
She says that, but in an hour she's back in 
nah
i need to bedge in 30 min
queue won't even pop by then
@fickle forge how much will tuning affect shuffles?
When is it better in shuffle to go two different targets?
Maybe destro might take a decent hit
DH is still gonna be the dom
And frost mage might come back
So it's just 1 aids thing for another ππ
If surv hunter comes into meta with the buffs, then it'll benefit warr
you mean benefit you?



any1 know any rlly good arms burst rotation
warbreaker > thunderous roar > avatar
hurricane or unhinged
hurricane is better rn
ye
shit really helps against casters
Don't pick SoS
He's thinking storm of destruction
The buffs won't help you fotm scum 
hahaha
you cant stop me
i am the fotm
Well duh, u always are. That's what the whole reroller part is about 
im restarted
dude idk whats happened but warr has been good for 2 whole xpacs straight
either fury or arms
its always good
one time it wasnt was bfa s4 iirc
cuz warr didnt synergize with any corruptions
ye cuz its by itself the most complete spec for 3s xD
We're just poor damage bots who intervene every once and a while lol
Does the legendary axe on use effect even do damage? Everyrime I use it I hardly see the health bar go down at all
It's nerfed by 70%+ in PvP or something.
REEEEEEEEEEEE
look at warr kit
as a whole
its one of the best pvp designed specs
and one of the worst rotations in the game xD
We pretty good for spin to win and beyblade memes 
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How tf this mm does that
I always taking the cheap shot like a man or trying to scaterring when rog is out of strealth
Avoiding cheap like that its a gg i would like to open my third eye and master this ability like him
I want to suprise pika one day
some players can feel things and he gonna respect me for that
I have always said with hate comes a lot of power
I want to get to the point that i can figen the cheap without botting
even if it takes me 20 years to master it idc
I want to feel what the ai feel
How tf this mm does that
I always taking the cheap shot like a man or trying to scaterring when rog is out of strealth
Avoiding cheap like that its a gg i would like to open my third eye and master this ability like him
I want to suprise pika one day
some players can feel things and he gonna respect me for that
I have always said with hate comes a lot of power
I want to get to the point that i can figen the cheap without botting
even if it takes me 20 years to master it idc
I want to feel what the ai feel
arent you a survival hunter
you guys just mash 1 button
run out of a resource
mash another 1 button
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3 diff bombs, two alter rotation for max dmg, mongoose, kc, killshot, explosive shot, chakrams, flanking strike
meanwhile, ms, overpower, execute, cs, spin
3 diff bombs is the same button
thats like saying mortal strike is 2 buttons because i apply deep wounds
fury of the eagle too btw
well either way
you have multiple seconds of doing nothing
Ye
Which is even worse
Objectively speaking arms rotation is boring
Two buttons with one other on proc
And you dont rly have anything like skullaplitter anymore
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survival is not far off of arms warr tbh
theres a reason im starting to play it
Its getting buffs?
arms doesnt feel very bursty
compared to like dh or ww monk. i nearly double dps with them during burst
nope it was a mage in 3v3
it can b bursty just depends on what u q into
and what build u r
30% in pvp
not rlly
warrior falls over to alot of shit rn
wb in 2v2s
the arms warrior sitting d stance and being immortal thing is a meme
2v2 war loses to ww dh outlaw rogue
off cd
imposs to win
really
ya
but its higher average cr than ww monk?
more people just play warrior than ww
warrior is better into rogue than ww is
but dh ww outlaw should mix warrior up in 2v2
even past 2.1K cr?
more do dh and outlaw but ya
moreso*
i think ww should also just farm u in 2s
dh and outlaw in 2s is literally unwinnable
Warrior wears paper armor atm
warrior beats ret in 2s tho kekw
warrior way better in 3s and shuff than 2s for sure
ret is mega garb in 2s
so warr is crazy in 3s?
not crazy
but its good
idk how tuning has changed the meta yet but if nothing much changed
whats better in 2s ww monk or dh
then its dh>>>>>>>outlaw>sub>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ww>>>dk/ret/war
dh
dh literally shouldnt die ever
idk if tuning changed that today
did dh get nerfed?
ya but idk how hard it hit them yet
one day im gonna convince the warrior playerbase to give up on hurricane double bladestorm fr
sub is not up there tbh
war better than dk
When it's worse sure
the war/dk/ret thing was in whatever order u want
and sub is still cracked its a meme that ppl say it isnt
double bladestorm boring its fun to try to do st dam and win in stun
It's fun till you do it and it does nothing anyways
i dont think it does NOTHING
think its act p good
sometimes u crit for 300k and win
Could be bigger then
How come?
Cause warr does good into setup specs since it has a lot of CDs to trade
Elaborate
Many defensive utility buttons = You do good against setup specs
Intervene
War Banner
Fear
Disarm
Etc.
What are setup specs?

but by all means
