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#pvp
bright kraken
im not even joking
sub 2.1k is a different game to 2.1k
actually
not being able to chat pregame is actually the biggest detriment ever omg
elfin surge
tawny elm
😮
elfin surge
thought vers had some nasty DR after 30%?
lol it does but 30% vs 40% vers, thats a 5% damage reduction difference
pretty big when most teams train you
tawny elm
i see. thanks!
fickle forge
I've been going more vers tbh ~40% on my warriors
Makes sense for your comp
I swear warr only gets targeted in DH+warr
lavish quest
pretty big when most teams train you
But but... wArRiOrS aRe TaNkY aNd UnKiLlAbLe
elfin surge
I swear warr only gets targeted in DH+warr
That comp lowkey insane
everyone too busy spamming ret war fw
fickle forge
That comp lowkey insane
A lot of people call it overrated
But it beat out Whaazz and Raiku in AWC
elfin surge
Unkillable and does a bunch of dmg
FACTS
so cooked playing with a dh
bro is speeding around the map
bright kraken
@fickle forge how do i carry a lobby
elfin surge
yo stun this guy big dam ok going this guy stun big dam incap here nice got every cd
fickle forge
<@278157108791476224> how do i carry a lobby
Pressure and big dam
bright kraken
bbecause i've dropped to rival 1 and i kinda dont wanna be rival 1
fickle forge
I'll give you a VOD of mine you can look over later
Maybe you see something you're lacking
bright kraken
how high can you carry a lobby up to?
fickle forge
Depends on your skill really
But I'd say around the 2.3k-2.4k mark is when it gets considerably harder
Now you're facing the top end shufflers on their alts
But at that point it's viable to play support if your lobby isn't favourable
fickle forge
?
The lobby is high enough that people are equal or better to you at that point
So if you're unfavoured in your comps, you can afford to not overly try to hard carry with CC setups and sustained damage
It's how I went 5-1 vs Meh, Twise and Powerparty in a fire/frost/destro/Hpala lobby on Mugambala
No shot am I living for more than 5 seconds vs high rated casters in shuffle dampening
So I gotta line a lot in that case
bright kraken
But at that point it's viable to play support if your lobby isn't favourable
yeah but like support how
fickle forge
yeah but like support how
Utility and peels, but I wouldn't worry about playing like that till you start approaching elite
Below that you can easily carry with pressure and damage
elfin surge
It's how I went 5-1 vs Meh, Twise and Powerparty in a fire/frost/destro/Hpala lo...
we get it man ur the best war in game
fickle forge
we get it man ur the best war in game
Thanks homie
Maybe one day you'll be good too
Escape 400 mmr lobbies
fickle forge
I wanna witness it dude
You should stream it
Idk why you wouldn't
You already have last season MMR leftovers so you'll prob start high
elfin surge
i love starting high and having to endure a 50% win rate to r1
fickle forge
75% of it being in a queue
Yeah?
You talk a lot anyway man
Just vibe with your viewers
wheat jay
As if youd be the only shuffle streamer...
fickle forge
Maybe that random Gurubashi dragon was right
You refuse to stream cause you fell off smh
elfin surge
fickle forge
Joefernandes literally playing chess and sudoku on stream inbetween Qs lmao
Just talks to his chat
bright kraken
@fickle forge 👍
elfin surge
Joefernandes literally playing chess and sudoku on stream inbetween Qs lmao
mage main probably
i need a bajheera gym garage
lift between qs
opaque whale
Or be like some streamers and have 8 different accounts so ur always in a shuffle
elfin surge
STFU TIRTON U TRAITOR
opaque whale
Nah
My schedule sucks
I work nights 5x a week
Like mid afternoon to midnight
And usually my two days off we queue mains when we can
elfin surge
free win
@opaque whale i qd ret wat fw with beatman and slunks and holyyyy 
lost ev game
lavish quest
I managed to 3-3 it and get 30 rating/27 MMR
opaque whale
oh i didnt know slunks was some multi r1 i was just laughing cause we bodied him everytime
he was playing war dh fw
i think
elfin surge
hes a nice guy
but he just attacks
doesnt set ports up
or really enveloping ever
which i swear u should be doing
opaque whale
ya i envelop a lot
i do need to get better at ports i used to be insane but we were relying on safeguard a lot so i stopped
elfin surge
when we vs other fw he does 4 other does 10+
opaque whale
yeah its kind of instinct based whne u should do it. like a preventative thing
before dmg comes and when u have to close a gap
meep does the same thing
but ithink he just got carried by his dps tbh
as ffist
bright kraken
I managed to 3-3 it and get 30 rating/27 MMR
crying
lavish quest
*crying*
Well I 6-0'd the lobby before so my MMR was higher than my rating, which is why I gained. Though me gaining MMR... I guess I also queued into a lobby higher than my MMR
But I'ma choose to believe it's blizz rewarding my results into that BS
DHs running down the Rdrus while I'm helpless to assist as a sheep and rooted
bright kraken
Well I 6-0'd the lobby before so my MMR was higher than my rating, which is why ...
I 2-4'd a lobby that i got into that was for some fucking reason 50 MMR below me and since then I've losted 300 rating
lavish quest
Its solos, it's all ups and downs
lavish quest
When I hit 2400 last season I went on a loss streak of like 200 or so rating, then after that went on a winstreak of up 300 rating and that's how I got it
bright kraken
i am a good player or else i wouldn't have hit 2.1k in the first place
lavish quest
Just how it goes
bright kraken
When I hit 2400 last season I went on a loss streak of like 200 or so rating, th...
after 2.4k i dont give a shit what happens
but i haven't even hit 2.2k yet
lavish quest
Same, after I hit it last patch, I promptly stopped queuing mostly
I did some for trying to get legend, but then I saw that wasn't happening to then I stopped
elfin surge
but ithink he just got carried by his dps tbh
o shit
fickle forge
<@278157108791476224> 👍
You're nose diving girl holy shit
fickle forge
lift between qs
Start lifting your first barbell first
fickle forge
lost ev game
Literally how
wheat jay
lift between qs
R1 + lifting journey stream?
tawny elm
if you get rating from a 3-3 it is coz most ppl in lobby are higher mmr than you?
lavish quest
if you get rating from a 3-3 it is coz most ppl in lobby are higher mmr than you...
It means the lobby's MMR is higher than your CR
Which can easily happen if your own MMR is higher than your CR
tawny elm
whats cr?
lavish quest
Current rating
lavish quest
- My current MMR going (before) into the lobby.
- My new CR AFTER the results of the match.
- The average MMR of my role in the lobby (DPS, so average of the 4 DPS)
- MY MMR going (before) into the lobby.
- My NEW MMR after the results of the match.
Hope that helps
If you notice, my MMR went up more than my CR because I 6-0'd, so my following lobby (which I 3-3'd) I was in a lobby higher than my CR, so I was more likely to gain, less likely to lose, CR
MMR matters more than CR tbh
elfin surge
1. My current **MMR** going (before) into the lobby.
2. My new **CR** AFTER the ...
1 is your match making value not your cr noob
fickle forge
Ye that's mmr dumbo smh
elfin surge
no
lavish quest
Well whatever lol, they should probably change it to CR since it already shows the MMR in the same screen
elfin surge
everything else u said is right tho
lavish quest
Pointless to have the same value on multiple spots on one screen
And my MMR and CR are the same thing because I'm out here strugglin
So am I truly wrong? 😉
lavish quest
0cr on this ss
hakz
fickle forge
Well whatever lol, they should probably change it to CR since it already shows t...
It's so you can see everyone else's mmr
lavish quest
Ah, fair enough, didn't really think of that
I'm currently being driven mad by the grind
elfin surge
is that for the legendary
lavish quest
Yeah
Kill all the rares in the emerald dream that have ever existed and will ever exist, do the superbloom a ton, and disenchant like 10 epic pieces of loot is the first step
Well... killing Fyrakk on heroic for 15 weeks is the real first step
Thankfully the mats only like 150k nowadays
lavish quest
cant relate
You haven't killed 100+ heroic bosses soooooo, get to work
PvP noob, but PvE hero
elfin surge
fuck
lavish quest
fuck
Suffer as I have
Still took them buffing the back luck protection so I could have a 50% chance, to get it
plush elk
I don’t think I’d hate the long queue time if the average time they show wasn’t such a bait
If it was the actual time you’d be spending, within reason, you could actually plan and work around that easy
grand scaffold
if ques were good long que time is fine
elfin surge
I am the Crusader of light I am the key to all hope in this world and the end to all evil. I will never give up and I will overcome any obstacle put in my path to achieve victory
against all odds
grand scaffold
☝️ 🤓
fickle forge
I found someone who's apparently stuck in SL Dstance along with whatever stance he's normally in
He's got the rotating shields and everything
Bro's in double Dstance
lavish quest
We need to get our buff somehow
Man is thanos, if blizz won't do it, fine, he'll do it himself
grand scaffold
Bro's in double Dstance
lmfao ive seen that before
amber sentinel
Guys do you go for disarm against assa rogues? is it woth it?
thick reef
Guys do you go for disarm against assa rogues? is it woth it?
If I'm trolling with my ProtWar buddy I don't
boreal stone
Guys do you go for disarm against assa rogues? is it woth it?
nothing really to disarm. only reason to take it is to prolong a "go", or for shadowdance windows, but youre gonna be kidneyed in those anyways
thick reef
Ye
amber sentinel
nothing really to disarm. only reason to take it is to prolong a "go", or for sh...
okay y makes sense
thick reef
That's why my buddy hits the funny Bodyguard button and sticks to me like napalm to kids
elfin surge
If I'm trolling with my ProtWar buddy I don't
🤓 prot?
boreal stone
🤓 well akshually MUD, i just mess around with my prot warrior buddy at 1400 on a good day and THATS the BEST way to determine if i should play disarm into asssa rogues 🤓 @elfin surge
elfin surge
🤓☝️ Im 1500 on my prot warrior in solo shuffle which is top 100 so yeah i kinda know what im talking about
grand scaffold
😂
lavish quest
Those 1500 lobbies are kinda crazy tho
violet fossil
That's why my buddy hits the funny Bodyguard button and sticks to me like napalm...
just when I hit 24 hours of no fap I see your pfp
lavish quest
All these R1s flexing their high ratings, but let's be real, 1400 is harder. We're really the ones at the top
grand scaffold
😂
violet fossil
ya momma
lavish quest
It's okay, show Mud a futa and he busts on the spot
grand scaffold
😂
lavish quest
Xaryu when he lands a full sheep
elfin surge
It's okay, show Mud a futa and he busts on the spot
HUHHH
opaque whale
???
haughty jewel
dude get this fistweaver out of here
thick reef
just when I hit 24 hours of no fap I see your pfp
The weeb fears the anime pfp
eternal hare
Thankfully the mats only like 150k nowadays
mine were 300k on bleeding hollow 
violet fossil
The weeb fears the anime pfp
🥵
fallen estuary
🤓☝️ Im 1500 on my prot warrior in solo shuffle which is top 100 so yeah i kinda...
Im 1600 as prot 💪
With a ton of welfare mmr
tawny elm
i hate when theres a tank in my lobby :p
obsidian kettle
is my dps too low? I play arms warrior and have ilvl 488 but at most do about 70k dps
are my rotations wrong?
i feel like i dont have much impact in solo arena
obsidian kettle
i have the 4 set to buff rend and spam execute, then i use sharpen blade to use mortal strike when possible and then mostly overpower
basically took a talent tree from wowhead
altough i am new too pvp so might just be a skill issue tbh
fickle forge
basically took a talent tree from wowhead
Wowhead? So you use Spear then?
obsidian kettle
yeah
but idk, now i have a win streak going winning 5/6 rounds, so idk really, might not be a problem
but am only 1000
seems mostly like i only need more gametime
fickle forge
Yeah dude you're speced wrong
obsidian kettle
really?
obsidian kettle
no...
obsidian kettle
alright will look into it
fickle forge
Start using Clap as your Rend applier
TR way better than Spear
Now you got 2 stuns as well
obsidian kettle
ok thanks man!
btw does that mean i dont need to have rend on my actionbar or should i still use it sometimes?
obsidian kettle
Copy paste the talents I made there
Yeah my dps went up 20k haha, appreciate it
fickle forge
btw does that mean i dont need to have rend on my actionbar or should i still us...
Nah you can take it off
It's minmax to do Rend over TC
You can addord to just stick to TC
obsidian kettle
alright
bright kraken
You're nose diving girl holy shit
;-;
bright kraken
I guess
cosmic vapor
bright kraken
ah yes
1.9k
the rating of 'one player is shit, can your class carry or not?'
i stand by my belief that 2.1k is less skillful than 1.9k
bright kraken
random fractal
bright kraken
1.9k has the most cursed shuffles i swear
tawny elm
so frustrating when your druid clones your target as you go in for a kill
why clone someone on 5% hp?
bright kraken
1941 I think?
amber sentinel
heya, can you enlighten me on what to do into Rogue/Mage in 2s ? i dont play them often but when i do i lose 90% of the time cause i just panic
bright kraken
heya, can you enlighten me on what to do into Rogue/Mage in 2s ? i dont play the...
depends
sub or ass go rogue
amber sentinel
mainly sub
bright kraken
bladestorm as a defensive
war banner + disarm
save trinket for duel
@grand scaffold @fickle forge
grand scaffold
wait what
bright kraken
make sure you are safe
amber sentinel
y i always go banner and disarm
grand scaffold
heya, can you enlighten me on what to do into Rogue/Mage in 2s ? i dont play the...
basically
you see a rogue walking towards you
you d stance
bright kraken
they dont have any heals so no real longevity
grand scaffold
every time
you always trinket the first go
never your healer
i never run warbanner
i think its trash
grand scaffold
fireamge can just insta fireblast it
and its dead in 1 sec
in 2s against rogue mage
dont run sharpen
drop that for disarm
and then use bladestorm cdr
and the shout talent
amber sentinel
okay but i do try to stick to the rogue so he cant restealth or?
grand scaffold
in every other situation aside from double dps with no hybrid dps you always run sharpen
grand scaffold
okay but i do try to stick to the rogue so he cant restealth or?
mage is ideal
but rogue works too
experiment and see what you have more success with
i tend to sus out how good the mage is at kiting
and if hes good at it i only swap him randomly
and go rogue rest of the time
if hes not good at kiting i ram him into the ground
also practice pre bladestorming their cc its hard but you;ll get the hang of it
amber sentinel
y im struggling with the pre bladestorm
grand scaffold
and some rogue mages are devious and dont do a full first go
they just try to bait cds
if they are doing that you dont trinket
also what talents are you playing
send ss if you can
amber sentinel
BcEAfuKaizEAgP2qANDB2hmf7DgWikEJkkoVKJBAAAAEEJCIBFEFaJCJhiEhECQkAAAAAAAAQiWiIgQ0QA
i usualkly play this
grand scaffold
i wouldnt play shatter tbh
and i would drop movement speed for 5% leech
ide play blunt instruments instead of warbreaker
ide also drop frothing berserker for cacophonous roar
ide also drop berserker shout for piercing howl
rest is good imo
prob use the other talent point to either get 5% movement speed for 5% autoattack speed
movement speed prob better tbh
amber sentinel
Just gotta get used to some classes still i just picked up arena 2 weeks ago but especially the RM is so annoying gotta keep my composure in those games 😄
grand scaffold
yeah its tough
amber sentinel
Another thing i was wondering about do you take fatality against tanky classes in 2s ? the big execute sounds nice but i did not test it yet tbh @grand scaffold
grand scaffold
i think fatality is atrocious
people like it tho
just never use it when anybody has a physical immunity on their team
immune bubble
bop
cloak
iceblock
amber sentinel
are the stacks lost when they immune or can i still get the big execute after the immunity?
grand scaffold
they are lost
amber sentinel
okay thats bad
amber sentinel
thx for the tips tho gotta head out
grand scaffold
np
bright kraken
there we are
the difference of freedom of speech
broskis really got mad i say 'oingo boingo' every time i heroic leap
wheat jay
why
bright kraken
probably because im one of those people that mashes buttons until it comes out
it works in pve with disengage
maybe less in pvp with heroic leap
bright kraken
Why healer/dps difference games shouldn't exist exhibit A
I'm losing because of somehow else being shit and RNG
LMAO
never mind it was a healer placement game
there was a dh tho with the 2.4k weapons... how tf
grand scaffold
Why healer/dps difference games shouldn't exist exhibit A
they always will exist
its just gap in skill and class diff
hpal in a caster lobby is a victim class
while against melees its very good
wheat jay
Vesa how many games have you played by now?
grand scaffold
holy shit
wheat jay
<@291636646225379328> did you see?
You can just dm
I'm busy rn, can't watch discord too much xd
fickle forge
i dont wanna post again
DM it
fickle forge
https://clips.twitch.tv/FreezingWonderfulAntelopeTTours-DTnyG3hucEE9hFrZ
Actually just Crusader in a nutshell
lavish quest
I'm busy rn, can't watch discord too much xd
That's a lie
bright kraken
how the fuck a bdk hit 1.9k
its not MMR also
they're actually blood too
its not just a display issue
tf
fickle forge
There are blood DKs on 2.4k
bright kraken
._.
wheat jay
That's a lie
Fam
You have zero idea xD
I'm in a middle of Vietnam clusterbombing in my life now
And life's preparing napalm too
lavish quest
Just bought a lil robot to follow me around and lazer, gonna try er out
bright kraken
why does ret feel so easy to kill half the time
sharp meteor
how the fuck a bdk hit 1.9k
Through sheer force of will.
There's two up at 2400ish on NA.
I got 2400 on it last season and it was a headache and a half.
lavish quest
Demo/Aff/Boomy with a literally throwing Hpal. Man that was fun
bright kraken
<3
fallen estuary
why does ret feel so easy to kill half the time
Cause they choose to use their defensives at 0.00001%
bright kraken
you know those games with a dps that plays shit the first game
and then actually relatively decent in the last
so you kinda lose out
spice hornet
@fallen estuary is still alive?
bright kraken
Want
lavish quest
Me too, I want to know how as well
How did I turn a 0-6 lobby into a 5-1? Scientists still don't know
wheat jay
Ye I guess
I don't get cool transmogs tho
Which sucks but then again I like pve colors more xD
grand scaffold
do you have illidan glaives?
lavish quest
Also you get all but wand and warglaive
wheat jay
Cba
lavish quest
Kek
hasty pulsar
are all hunters good against all mages? just had a beast mastery hunter just get owned by a frost mage
lavish quest
Yes
hasty pulsar
like am I missing something here
i told him train the mage
this dude did less damage to mage than me
hasty pulsar
i lost my mind in this ss just now
lavish quest
He should be eatin'
hasty pulsar
wtf is that
lavish quest
Ain't that right? @wheat jay
lavish quest
wtf is that
Another game
grand scaffold
i hate this game and i hate ss
what cr have you dinged bro
hasty pulsar
what cr have you dinged bro
i am awful apparently only been able to get to 2099 and then just roller coaster back down and crash and burn
just suck I never learn from my mistakes
grand scaffold
bro can you relax
hasty pulsar
ok
grand scaffold
👍
dont let it get to you
i played 1800 arms games in s1
and like another 800 on fury
that was the season i got good
the grind takes time
grand scaffold
just dont let it get to you
hasty pulsar
I appreciate the advice
hasty pulsar
agreed
fallen estuary
<@329716606257201153> is still alive?
Yea im still alive lmao im just talking shit in other discords
And playing fury and its horrible
But im #86 in na atm
grand scaffold
nice
fallen estuary
Im literally forced to play dstance as fury every game cause im the KT every game lmfao
But im somehow making it work
Oh shit i just checked some ppl lost HARD and im now 76 lmao
grand scaffold
nice
grand scaffold
Im literally forced to play dstance as fury every game cause im the KT every gam...
thats why i wont play fury
i just die
fallen estuary
If you want to hookup with local pillars in your area furys your spec cauze thats what youll be playing every game LMFAO
robust hearth
need a arms war build for bgs
robust hearth
ty
grand scaffold
np
wheat jay
@lavish quest
visual plover
I like second wind in BGs can't always rely on healers esp in randoms
wheat jay
lavish quest
Join the chorus
lavish quest
Just saw one. Saw warrior lose to warlock. Feelsbadman
tawny elm
love to see it
tardy dock
The current best warrior in the world magnusz added my speech #pvp message to the chat, now everyone will know I will become the best warrior in existence
fickle forge
@grand scaffold Getting back to a topic we talked about a long time ago
Getting like 5% crit feels good
grand scaffold
I like second wind in BGs can't always rely on healers esp in randoms
you get hit too much for it to be good
grand scaffold
<@668086812140371978> Getting back to a topic we talked about a long time ago
tbh some games playing crit over mastery you absolutely crush people
others you get crushed
bright kraken
all i needed to do was parse as survival in mythic raid
wheat jay
all i needed to do was parse as survival in mythic raid
pve happy life
pvp unhappy life
bright kraken
pve happy life
depends on your definition
inland badge
Good morning, just getting into pvp as arms and have a couple questions. in the arms tree its says to take the spear talents over the roar or bleed talents is that true
bright kraken
Yay!! I'm top dps!!
why the fuck is a survival hunter top dps
wheat jay
>Yay!! I'm top dps!!
>why the fuck is a survival hunter top dps
ye thats so nice when it happens XD
wheat jay
Good morning, just getting into pvp as arms and have a couple questions. in the ...
take bleed
roar good
spear not good
inland badge
ok thanks
bright kraken
why i dont like 0-6 games exhibit B
lavish quest
No one went 0-6
lavish quest
Well I just had a match where I went 1-5, happens
bright kraken
my solo shuffle is actually getting griefed by an addon not loading
bright kraken
first three rounds couldnt prepare because addons were reloading
next two i was unfocused
marble bone
Dude got his ladder upside down, going the wrong way on his climb 😬
Also, hello! Reinstalled this game after not playing for ages. Did a couple solos and faced a bunch of DHs, good to see nothing has changed since early season ✌️😅
bright kraken
Dude got his ladder upside down, going the wrong way on his climb 😬
i mean like i am aussie ig
fallen estuary
Dawg play fury and hug pillars like i do and only do damage 1/8th the game
marble bone
😂
fallen estuary
Youll like it way better than arms
marble bone
Dmg isnt important, just land a juicy execute when needed✌️
lavish quest
Dmg isnt important, just land a juicy execute when needed✌️
Juicy 3% of their HP if you're lucky
Pog
bright kraken
Dawg play fury and hug pillars like i do and only do damage 1/8th the game
@fickle forge attack this argument
fallen estuary
Hes gonna summon his 3 boyfriends to get me its over 😔
fickle forge
<@278157108791476224> attack this argument
He's a prot warr main, he's already the clown of the cord
fallen estuary
Dudes 0 cr as prot i get it youre jelly
wheat jay
Dudes 0 cr as prot i get it youre jelly
you're 0 cr in lifts my guy
fallen estuary
Oh i do lift
wheat jay
no cr, no arms, no bitches
fallen estuary
Myself out of bed
wheat jay
mud is stronger than you
fallen estuary
Ofc he is he commits violence to bugs in silithus
Bug beater in chief shouldnt be contested
Also unnerf martial prowess and give prot bladestorm
fickle forge
tbh some games playing crit over mastery you absolutely crush people
Getting 5% is little sac on mastery for getting like 50% more crits
Swear it's good
bright kraken
Getting 5% is little sac on mastery for getting like 50% more crits
whats this about
wheat jay
kargish went more crit instead of full mastery
bright kraken
is that better/
tardy dock
GLADIATORRRRR
fickle forge
is that better/
I like it so far
grand scaffold
I was saying it was good
lavish quest
Ofc he is he commits violence to bugs in silithus
We all commit violence on bugs now
robust hearth
why i dont like 0-6 games exhibit B
Y u letting a MW monk get all the kills?
robust hearth
https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-helldivers-2-bile-titan-gif-167635703291751407...
Fight the machines you coward
lavish quest
Fight the machines you coward
But the major order is for bugs right now
Well controlling planets on bug side
robust hearth
Scrap arenas entirely
lavish quest
Delete ranged DPS
robust hearth
Especially aug
Wow wasn't designed for arenas
It never was but they keep forcing it to be
lavish quest
it actually was designed for arena
Nah, vanilla didn't have it m8
Helldivers has better pvp
hasty pulsar
can anyone tell me, or if it is already been mention before link me, what are the main talent swaps we should be doing. Such as wrecking throw into warlocks/mistweavers, etc.. I guess mainly when should I take disarm or safeguard also
any help appreciated
lavish quest
I personally wouldn't run it into MW
Bubble is massive, prob better just to swap
MW's don't have externals other than cocoon, so you can make them fall way behind if you instantly put somthing else to 40%
Especially if its the MW in a stun
hasty pulsar
Ok i never have run it into mw yet I just read some random message in here someone saying it was good. I prefer to swap anyway ya
lavish quest
Wrecking throw with demo honor talent into locks (Can run it without the honor talent into priests especially disc if you want)
hasty pulsar
dang that is badass
lavish quest
Used to always delete it, but locks r busted now
So can take that plus a global
or two
hasty pulsar
When is safeguard used? Do i use it into 2 casters or wat
like when normal intervene is 'useless'
lavish quest
I've been using it less tbh
Kargish gave me the advise to rarely use it, so I have been and it's been helping so far
robust hearth
it actually was designed for arena
Cope
fickle forge
Ok i never have run it into mw yet I just read some random message in here someo...
MW bubblr tuned too high to be breakable atm
It's like a 1.5M shield
You can break it in late damp
hasty pulsar
Ok good to know
merry valley
awc triple DH first game
river walrus
they literally need to send this class to the sewers with fdk
Frost dk?? Fdk is already in the trash can
fallen estuary
i was implying fdk was already down there
hasty pulsar
had a fdk have a meltdown earlier in an ss.. he only had 1 round win
he was going crazy i wish i screenshotted it
lavish quest
Only a DH can defeat DH
robust hearth
But yeah edgy fury needs to be nerfed
I thought fury sucked?
fallen estuary
dh players really cannot take it
thick reef
I thought fury sucked?
DH is edgy fury
hasty pulsar
does evasion/blur dodge storm bolt
lavish quest
No
robust hearth
ok thank you
Never give up on gladiator warrior spec
They should've renamed slayer hero talent to Gladiator and allow it for prot warrior to go gladiator
Gladiator warrior spec
Shield charge
lavish quest
We have shield charge
thick reef
No, we have shield charge at home
simple rock
When is safeguard used? Do i use it into 2 casters or wat
Use it against a melee cleave when you play with a caster or a healer that gets targetted
grand scaffold
dh players really cannot take it
how tell an arcane mage their kiting is too op
its gonna be hilarious
mild thunder
now tell an arms warrior bladestorm cd is too low and ignore pain is dumb
it’s gonna be hilarious
mild thunder
blud does not recognise irony
crimson helm
how tell an arcane mage their kiting is too op
Strange flex
magic wasp
guys what food can we use for quick refill in world pvp?
bright kraken
@fickle forge is it worrying if im still dropping
1862 now
im not really sure why
or how
;-;
grand scaffold
guys what food can we use for quick refill in world pvp?
probably just get second wind for world pvp
scarlet barn
Or kebap
grand scaffold
yah
second wind is just faster and free
dont really need intervene for world pvp imo
either works
lavish quest
"Ignore pain is dumb" we already struggling to live 
grand scaffold
as i said
misinformation as per usual
bro dont know about warlocks dark pact or mages alter time and bubbles or hybrid classes
😂
fickle forge
<@278157108791476224> is it worrying if im still dropping
Idk about worrying, but I'd say it's prob a sign you're tilt Q'ing
No worries in a game after all
bright kraken
Idk about worrying, but I'd say it's prob a sign you're tilt Q'ing
i haven't even queued for hours tho ;-;
like i did it at night
morning and afternoon today and yesterday i did other shit
@fickle forge guesstimations to when season ends?
wheat jay
You still have time to double or triple your number of games played
buoyant rover
when should I play hurricane vs unhinged?
wheat jay
oh btw i levelled another hunter for next season, is she pretty?
Survival, so yes
grand scaffold
oh btw i levelled another hunter for next season, is she pretty?
i thought it was a mage for a secc
what polearm is that
i like it
wheat jay
could be staff
lavish quest
Think it's a staff from legion timewalking vendor
fickle forge
<@278157108791476224> guesstimations to when season ends?
Like a month or 2
fickle forge
oh btw i levelled another hunter for next season, is she pretty?
This is def your best mog so far
wheat jay
and the best thing, its not a fucking furry XD
grand scaffold
and the best thing, its not a fucking furry XD
yo bro
do you play spearhead on surv?
visual plover
when should I play hurricane vs unhinged?
Generally u want hurricane if the enemy team has pets and other minor enemy's that would eat the mortal strike from unhinged, and use unhinged if u know it's gonna hit the opponent with the mortal strikes
wheat jay
do you play spearhead on surv?
normally you do
i personally don't
i dont like it
and i dont have enough binds for it XD
grand scaffold
and i dont have enough binds for it XD
thats why i was asking lmfao
this spec has too many buttons
fickle forge
I skipped it as well
fickle forge
I only skip it cause I went the KS path as well
It's no wonder you do less dmg than everyone else if you're not cleaving
fickle forge
Where you should def have it
Bro has been arguing for me going Unhinged every 2 seconds for the entirety of DF, now he dismisses AoE KS with the same argument I've given him
lavish quest
Such a great couple
grand scaffold
lmfao
grand scaffold
lavish quest
Congrats, finally joining us
wheat jay
Bro has been arguing for me going Unhinged every 2 seconds for the entirety of D...
I do play aoe ks what do you mean wtf xD
Also unhinged was broken on one target too
Before the nerfs at least xD
opaque whale
holy shit dont listen to this flokk guy
haughty jewel
its fully upgraded
grand scaffold
holy shit dont listen to this flokk guy
flokk is almost the top G
i like him
never rude to people either
hasty pulsar
Just finished the legendary.. is the charge rooting me in place actually a liability in solo shuffle
grand scaffold
holy shit dont listen to this flokk guy
check his cr my G
spice hornet
I hate how good gnome is for arms
Ruins my mog game
Just gonna t morph idc if I get banned it’ll save me from this shit game
grand scaffold
what is t morph
violet fossil
what is t morph
it’s when you switch genders irl
lol it’s a mod you can download to change what your character looks like
grand scaffold
😂
fickle forge
never rude to people either
He plays ret+warr though
sage raptor
lol it’s a mod you can download to change what your character looks like
that gets you banned no?
they still look for that? surely they do
violet fossil
yes
fleet egret
steel oxide
im new to wow and mainly do pvp with arms war, can any one tell me what is the best items to craft and how do i get emblishments ?
visual plover
Just finished the legendary.. is the charge rooting me in place actually a liabi...
yeah the fact u cant move for 3 seconds or however long really makes it a risk
haughty jewel
its dogwank
hasty pulsar
yeah sort of worried to ever click that button tbh
opaque whale
without ret war id be 1950
ya try playing tsg or smthing skilled u shitter
eager sluice
its been a very long time since i've arena'd are warriors just GIGA squishy?
bright kraken
@fickle forge
bright kraken
its been a very long time since i've arena'd are warriors just GIGA squishy?
not really but they aren't as self sufficient as DH
they can eat hits with heals but dont have sustainance
thats how it feels for me at least
like stunned healer. DH is not dying, warrior might
im sure one of the good wars can correct me on that lol
eager sluice
Like I’m by no means a new player or bad, I’m pretty much 4-2 ing lobbies on average and my only real goal was just the set but compared to most other melee my damage is on par with people that have nowhere near my gear I’m 488 average with Lego
Like a 476 dh will almost double my damage it’s actually absurd
bright kraken
this was the weirdest lobby ever
felt like both healers were bad or somethting lol
bright cloak
this was the weirdest lobby ever
If I'm reading this right, the prevoker is likely on his 2nd solo lobby this season. Can result in pretty lopsided or odd games.
fickle forge
Like a 476 dh will almost double my damage it’s actually absurd
Def a skill issue
bright kraken
@fickle forge how often we wann run shatter into pally games?
and/or mage games
and when we shatter?
fickle forge
<@278157108791476224> how often we wann run shatter into pally games?
I always do
I shatter if I can keep up the pressure
I delay it for 2nd immun if I can't
bright kraken
@fickle forge am i trolling for not running disarm against MM DH if i cant stick to the MM
because apparently if i cant hit a hunter not running disarm is a good idea
balmy compass
you want to cc on the hunters pop, should 100% be taking disarm
bright kraken
and what matchups do i use bladestorm as an uptime spell rather than a cd?
bright kraken
you want to cc on the hunters pop, should 100% be taking disarm
yeah but my struggle was sticking to the hunter
fickle forge
<@278157108791476224> am i trolling for not running disarm against MM DH if i ca...
Take Disarm
balmy compass
dont need to tunnel the hunter all game, but you're probably misusing your mobility
bright kraken
and its just trushot yeah?
any particular point?
and what do i use disarm for inbetween?
like, i know for Dk and war to use on frenzy/avatar
what then after?
or just wait 1.5min again
lavish quest
War it's on warbreaker
wheat jay
and what do i use disarm for inbetween?
On hunt when youre in trouble
Lets say you're 40% hp he's loading up aimed shot
Then disarm
If you disarm mid-channel of rapid fire it stops shooting too
fickle forge
and its just trushot yeah?
MM doesn't have any cd that buffs their numbers, they're just all about getting the shots off
So just Disarm if you can't stop AS and your team can't respond
bright kraken
MM doesn't have any cd that buffs their numbers, they're just all about getting ...
and for UH still frenzy?
grand scaffold
Wdym frenzy
bright kraken
unholy frenzy
their 1.5min cd that increases haste by like 20% i think?
and gives the target woonz
bright kraken
and what matchups do i use bladestorm as an uptime spell rather than a cd?
@fickle forge
torn sigil
I like the 70% slow vs locks moonkin and ele
I always save bs for mobility vs that
Don't ever bs before static too
fickle forge
<@278157108791476224>
General rule of thumb is if they got more (frequent) mobility spells than you, then you should consider spinning for uptime
Like a lock has a 30 sec cd port and 2 min cd gate, you don't have to spin for mobility there
bright kraken
so basically for uptime on hunters and mages?
how do i exactly use it for uptime at that point, even
fickle forge
Like for freedom for an example
I normally stun freedom to catch up, but you can just spin after them as well, as long as they don't have cheetah
Or if you're about to be peeled off of them
fickle forge
I also freedom you quite often
Usually followed by 'ARTJI WHY DIDN'T YOU FREEDOM ROOT+BEAM?!' from somewhere in the backline
Bitch is silenced anyway, just hand it to me
wheat jay
Usually followed by 'ARTJI WHY DIDN'T YOU FREEDOM ROOT+BEAM?!' from somewhere in...
It is what it is
wheat jay
Bitch is silenced anyway, just hand it to me <:xeos:945501697847992341>
When enemy is dead, you don't need healing
bright kraken
@fickle forge is lock still kill target on maps with good portal spots? (xuen map, mugambala)
what ddo i do the
fickle forge
<@278157108791476224> is lock still kill target on maps with good portal spots? ...
Yes, but in case of Mugambala you switch or pull back if they port up so you force them to drop down again
Same on something like Blade's Edge, where if they drop down to port up you just stay up and wait for them to come
Also where the fuck did Blade's Edge go
bright kraken
Yes, but in case of Mugambala you switch or pull back if they port up so you for...
what do i do with xuen then
just kept getting cockblocked because lock ported up
0-6 DH arms destro MW Hpr
ddiscc
fickle forge
You do the same really
Pull back till he drops down
Or you chase him around the pillar
Xuen pillar is just about like any other pillar
bright kraken
:)
welp
dropped 72
so just wasted an entire night
was going decently until then too
bright kraken
i've only had like 5 queues all night
this is just the time i'm online?
when am i supposed to queue?
fickle forge
Certain times of day there are shit ques
Why yes I play an extreme sport
I Q up shuffle at 2 AM to fight all the R1s on their alts, but run the chance the lobby mmr is 50 above my cr
elfin surge
Why yes I play an extreme sport
I Q up shuffle at 2 AM to fight all the R1s on t...
😂☝️💯
bright kraken
And a lot of time for bad ques to happen
so how good is 4-10:30pm AEST?
usually on weekdays i can only make 6-10:30pm
fickle forge
so how good is 4-10:30pm AEST?
It doesn't matter till you start approaching elite
Damn dude, I would have been guaranteed a double DH lobby if I Q'd within the last 3 hours @grand scaffold
bright kraken
It doesn't matter till you start approaching elite
so when's that, and when would be preferable to play
fickle forge
so when's that, and when would be preferable to play
I'd prefer to Q during 6-9 server time
bright kraken
I'd prefer to Q during 6-9 server time
what's server time
PST?
relatable tbh
i went 3-4
there was a bad SP
they got them for first 3 rounds
bright kraken
@fickle forge what do i do against double dh
fickle forge
<@278157108791476224> what do i do against double dh
Pray one of them didn't bind Netherwalk
And then just do max cleave
bright kraken
legit
1.9k feels harder than 2.1k
honestly
makes me feel shit for not going 6-0 like i should given im 2.2kxp
ughhhhhhhhhhh
lavish quest
<@278157108791476224> what do i do against double dh
Put fotm rerollers in the dirt
bright kraken
yeah how
lavish quest
Well know that fotm rerollers are still a bit worse at the class their on because they just reroll all the time. Exploit their weaknesses. Maybe you can punish them over extending or something
Do big dam
polar pivot
hello everyone! im going back to warrior arms after really long break. please can you tell me about SLAM? I mean this ability is still usuable in arenas?
elfin surge
hello everyone! im going back to warrior arms after really long break. please ca...
No slam is bad but have it binded it has some slight uses like killing totems ect.
grand scaffold
Damn dude, I would have been guaranteed a double DH lobby if I Q'd within the la...
😂
corny ass people fr
eager sluice
Def a skill issue
grand scaffold
who wants to see a snake with diarrhea
no
elfin surge
Man has slam binded but won't bind start stream
lol ive actually been playing a lot
lavish quest
lol ive actually been playing a lot
lavish quest
i started gearing my 4th warrior
But none of it was streamed as far as I'm aware at least
lavish quest
our mud who art in skyhold, hallowed be thy glad title
thy arena come, thy meta be done
in dragonflight as it is in shadowlands
give us this day our daily stream
and forgive us our shitposts, as we forgive those who shitpost about us
and lead us not into fury rerolling
but deliver us from mages
hail mud, full of cringe
grand scaffold
are u sure
garanteed
grand scaffold
our mud who art in skyhold, hallowed be thy glad title
thy arena come, thy meta ...
last line goes hard
quaint osprey
i also want my heroic throw to be #1 in damage
grand scaffold
dumb ass robot
they advanced it
i cant send a screenshot
idk how they've managed this
i cant post a screenshot of the word r e t a r ded
quaint osprey
buffing us would neglet the diff between us and dh from 1/50 chance of winning to 1/20
grand scaffold
nah
we just need 2nd wind from mop
execute dmg from shadowlands
mortal strike dmg from legion
bleed dmg from bfa
stormbolt 1 shot from wod
bladestorm from wrath
and then bam
we are now dh's
grand scaffold
2274
im upgrading my cr
😂
i was 2334 with ret warr early season
then those 2 stopped playing with me
-_-
next best thing
dh warr to get glad
lavish quest
Wish I could upgrade my CR but I suck
lavish quest
I mean... I'm just struggling in solos
Top is 2260 thus far. Maybe one day I won't suck
Err, I mean it's because warrior needs buffed clearly
Finding nerds for 3s is too rough when you're not a 69th time R1
grand scaffold
i hope next season i get my r1 title
i think if i get the right people to play with i could do it
not ez tho
2288
lavish quest
Just do it as prot
