pvp

[lavish quest]

You would if it was fotm

[wheat jay]

I dont drink

Drinking is fotm

[lavish quest]

Who tf says you have to drink?

[wheat jay]

Getting drunk girls is a rogue move

[raw summit]

It sure helps if ur tryna find people at a bar or club

[wheat jay]

I ain't a rogue

[fickle forge]

Yeah it is, the worst map to face casters on lmao

[lavish quest]

Ur a surv hunter, a wannabe rogue

[fickle forge]

Was it ele or enh?

[wheat jay]

Ye but with morals

[bright kraken]

ele

[fickle forge]

Yeah you lowballed the lottery then

[wheat jay]

Survi is rogue if rogue wasn't gay as fuck

[fickle forge]

3 casters on Mugambala

0 wins lobby tbh

[bright kraken]

now im 1.9k

😭

[raw summit]

Gay is underrated for dating tho

[fickle forge]

Nah don't sweat it, you'll get it back when you optimize rotation

[bright kraken]

btw can someone actually give me a definitive answer about whether arms is decent or shit because im trying to bug a friend over them telling me to go arms

[raw summit]

Compared to what

[bright kraken]

how the fuck am i supposed to optimise rotation on mugambala with 3 casters, one of which is a frost mage

[lavish quest]

Arms Is fine. Just feels awful to play

[fickle forge]

Arms is good

[raw summit]

Are you playing fury or why the Q

[fickle forge]

Trading mobility cooldowns and Bladestorm right for starters

Did you record that game?

[bright kraken]

no

[lavish quest]

Arms can kill redacteds and that's about 70% of the playerbase right there

[fickle forge]

Unlucky

[bright kraken]

i didnt see your message until after

[wheat jay]

Record games

Send to #810664169140518947

And kargish can review it

[elfin surge]

Arms is bad. And feels awful to play

[fickle forge]

Doomer Mud at it again

[lavish quest]

Yeah... but I get crucified if I tell them the truth MUD

[elfin surge]

true

[fickle forge]

Arms bad gais 🤓

[lavish quest]

Only way some people could consider arms bad is if you disabled the enter world button on warriors

[elfin surge]

im stuck 2200

[fickle forge]

If there are millions of arms warriors on the ladder I am one of them. If the ladder has ten arms warriors I am one of them. If there is only one arms warrior then that is me. If there are no arms warriors, that means I am no more on the Earth. If the world is against arms warrior, I am against the world.

[bright kraken]

https://seramate.com/us/Wyrmrest Accord/Prrze

[fickle forge]

Have you found a DH for your free R1 yet?

[elfin surge]

the fuck

[bright kraken]

wdym the fuck

[elfin surge]

furry

[bright kraken]

ok and?

[lavish quest]

Stop being a furry? Instant +400 CR

[lucid walrus]

WRA

god help you

[elfin surge]

Might need to get boosted by ret war fw again

[fickle forge]

Stop

DH is objectively better as well

[lucid walrus]

fistweaver shouldn't be good man

[lavish quest]

See if they can boost me while they're at it

[lucid walrus]

i read that acronym and think "fire wage?"

[bright kraken]

@fickle forge do i just have to stop being a pussy and go out

[elfin surge]

i want to q tschi with petkick and feedgod

[bright kraken]

im scared of losing healer or just getting blasted half the time

[fickle forge]

Yes

[bright kraken]

fuck like me being patient was also the reason i won that other game

[fickle forge]

Are you not picking Wrecking Throw into locks btw?

[bright kraken]

the one time i did it didnt do shit

idk how to use it

and when i did pick it up they didnt even have a shield

[fickle forge]

You pick Wrecking+Demo into locks and insta shatter the Pact

Free 450k dmg in a button

[bright kraken]

replace sharpen blade in caster lobbies?

is rebound worth taking

[fickle forge]

Don't drop Sharpen
Rebound is ass

[raw summit]

I cant think of a lobby youd not run sharpen in

[fickle forge]

I only ever drop Sharpen vs sub rogues

[bright kraken]

how like should i play caster lobbies overall

obviously keep leap for peeling

[raw summit]

Banner intervene storm or what

[fickle forge]

Use Leap for mobility to have uptime

[elfin surge]

kargish gives such good advice but is somehow still a duelist, you'd think someone with such knowledge would be better.

[bright kraken]

how do i not die then

[fickle forge]

Mud shows extreme levels of narcissism, he has utterly no self control, he showed very obvious signs that he fails and panics under pressure, and that he needs anger counseling. His maturity could also be brought to question as well. This all simply from viewing the way he spoke, his mannerisms, and his actions in the games played.

[fickle forge]

If you gotta LoS in a caster lobby, you Intervene your healer who's surely standing at a pillar to not tank 20 DRs of CC

[elfin surge]

how is arms in shuffle

mid?

[fickle forge]

Also watch out man, @wheat jay and I are going glad with KFC again this season as soon as we don't work 18 hours a day 🙏

[elfin surge]

yeah right kid

[fickle forge]

?

Toxicud?

Maybe beat Dekel 1v1 before you talk shit lil' bro?

[elfin surge]

hes 5'3

[fickle forge]

No shot

[limber relic]

😂😂😂😂 i made a dh yes

Wanted 2 try it out

[elfin surge]

[bright kraken]

and what if intervene is on cd

[limber relic]

I got 2100 in solo in 2 days now im bored of it sadge

[fickle forge]

It won't be because you're in a caster lobby and didn't pick Safeguard

[wheat jay]

And you're 53kg

[elfin surge]

Vesa intervenes magic

[limber relic]

Least im glad 👀

[bright kraken]

is pushing dps really my highest priority?

for improvement compared to like

timing or cc or defensives or los or shit

hpal UH if this isn't a 6-0 i commit pyukkumuku

[fickle forge]

Yeah

You're a pressure bot that damps

[raw summit]

PVE bot

[elfin surge]

every spec is a pve bot now

[fickle forge]

If you do max numbers and trade defensives right, you win most lobbies

[bright kraken]

aight DK died time to pyukku

[fickle forge]

CC helps that win condition

Warr isn't one shotting anyone in a stun

[raw summit]

Wrong approach really, never kill self always kill others

[bright kraken]

big brain idea

use static field where you're gonna run

[fickle forge]

Static field in a melee lobby eksdee

[bright kraken]

i was expecting at least 4-2 wtf

;-;

[lavish quest]

How tall are you lad?

[lavish quest]

How degenerate are you?

[bright kraken]

wdym

i'd like to believe not very much

[lavish quest]

Furry, probably into that Vaporean shit with that

[bright kraken]

no actually

its not even my favourite eeveelution tbh

glaceon enthusiast

or maybe leafeon, hmm, hard

[lavish quest]

It's all about pals now anyways

[raw summit]

Imagine being a pokemon fan

Smh

[bright kraken]

im not that big of a fan

i just found this on r/furry_irl

[raw summit]

So much for not degen

[wheat jay]

Why are you on furry

Also why vaporeon

It's degenerate

[raw summit]

Artji doesnt being a hunter make u a furry too

[wheat jay]

Not rly

And I have a cat

So it all fits together

[raw summit]

But you dont shane dawson the cat right

[wheat jay]

A what?

[raw summit]

Dont look it up it's cursed shit

[raw summit]

Cutie

[lavish quest]

Why would you be there?

[bright kraken]

because im a furry?

get my mans a mage

[wheat jay]

She says uwu

It makes sense I guess

[fickle forge]

Vesa is a hard furry enthusiast

[lavish quest]

Also, when being furry is fotm, @wheat jay will be there

[raw summit]

Could just be e(u)girl

Man i had people say that to me irl turbo weird

[wheat jay]

It's like playing feral

I don't do that

I would play feral if claws of shirvallah were back tho

Those were mad lit

[fickle forge]

Ah right, so it's now furry with claws then I see

[wheat jay]

Compare nelf cat form to claws of shirvallah

There's a big difference there

And ye I would play it if it had claws back

It was neat

[raw summit]

Fotm furry then

[wheat jay]

I'd play it even if it wasn't fotm tho

Same as I played KFC when it was garbage

Which it always is xD

Make KFC s tier and imma easy glad with kargo

[lavish quest]

Think that makes it more furry tbh

[wheat jay]

Does it?

Oh well

Kargish would let it slide cuz he likes kitty cleave I believe

[raw summit]

I wonder tho @bright kraken what's the decidung factor between worgen and vulpera for a furry

[lavish quest]

War pvp chat is just all survival hunters and furries

[raw summit]

Friend of mine also is one and went worgen for example

[bright kraken]

im a hordie

[wheat jay]

Panda?

[bright kraken]

and also make camp is useful AF

[wheat jay]

Panda is cool

[bright kraken]

as well as 8 bag slots

im not even joking the racials were the thing that made me play vulp not the appearance

unironically

[raw summit]

Not furry

[wheat jay]

Yep

[bright kraken]

tis

wrong message

[bright kraken]

tis

[raw summit]

Tis not

[wheat jay]

Panda too wholesome to be a furry

[bright kraken]

like for a bit was the only way i could get to zereth mortis

[fickle forge]

Panda Chad

[wheat jay]

@fickle forge panda survi?

[fickle forge]

I'm gonna do shuffle on alt warr

[raw summit]

What would a pvper ever do in zm tho

[wheat jay]

James would quit playing with us tho

[raw summit]

Get 4p never come back

[fickle forge]

Does racial DR with trap Artji?

[bright kraken]

im not mainly a pvper

[wheat jay]

It does

Sadly

[raw summit]

Doesnt dr if you miss it

[fickle forge]

[bright kraken]

and it was so i could get this sword

[raw summit]

For 1h fury

[fickle forge]

Star Wars wannabes man

[bright kraken]

it was for my frost dk when breath was good in VOTI

[raw summit]

Sepulcher was a horrid raid

And the new trinkets then eww

Resonator rogue

[fickle forge]

I tried getting back into PvE, but I just snooze

[bright kraken]

pve is my main mode of gameplay so

[raw summit]

Depends on the content u do tbh

Mythic raid is kinda fun

M+ kinda zzz

[fickle forge]

Also omega snooze

[wheat jay]

I wish survi could dual wield

[bright kraken]

BM pov

[fickle forge]

Waiting for the 30 parsing DHs to catchup on mechanics so we can progress

😴

[bright kraken]

my issue is that people can do mechs but they cant dps for shit

[fickle forge]

Other way for me

[wheat jay]

Gotta greed dps

[raw summit]

1057 was top 20 arms for me allstars wise

[wheat jay]

If I die, healers fault

[fickle forge]

'Guys we gotta soak this mechanic, this is the 20th time we wipe to this same one shot'

[lavish quest]

So the grey parse becomes green

[bright kraken]

ok ok but how's your heal parse looking

[wheat jay]

I used to be orange parser

[raw summit]

Why would i care for hps im a dps

[lavish quest]

I get purples and orange without trying as prot

[raw summit]

Tank dps parses are free

[bright kraken]

if you're not top of damage done, taken and prevented you're playing wrong

[lavish quest]

I mean... it's still a % of the spec deal.

[fickle forge]

Vesa maximizing damage right up until the raid boss suddenly starts kiting

[wheat jay]

Survi range tho

[raw summit]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qjFNCgmnKR9bLBQA#fight=15&type=damage-done it's about gapping em

[bright kraken]

the duality

[raw summit]

That igira is r1 no external

[bright kraken]

yeah

[raw summit]

Little bit of dam doing u feel me

But i do shit dam in arena

[bright kraken]

relatable

[raw summit]

Why cant i pve them smh!

[bright kraken]

i had pi in mine but also surv kinda benefits a lot from PI this tier

and also because on my race im losing at least 5k dps

[raw summit]

I lose 300 dps i think

[fickle forge]

Insane parser?!? @wheat jay

[raw summit]

But who cares just outskill it with crit rate

Yooo

[wheat jay]

It's not dps

It's level of a key

[raw summit]

It's points iirc

[wheat jay]

Respectable tho

[wheat jay]

Ye but they're about level of key on warcraftlogs

[raw summit]

And no one logs keys

[fickle forge]

You're just a hater bro, I'm the biggest PvE pumper of us

[wheat jay]

Only if you're boosting haha

Next expansion I HAVE to boost I swear

Easiest money in the game

[raw summit]

@bright kraken check mythic btw

Little troll larodar

But good council

[wheat jay]

Especially when you can do it in premade group with homiea

[raw summit]

Idk key boost pays piss

Even raid is nothing now

Like 100k for unsaved hc

[wheat jay]

Now

But it was like 300k per key

And they were piss easy

[raw summit]

Im too raidbrained idk

[bright kraken]

@fickle forge demolition for MW?

[fickle forge]

No

You'll never break it

1.5M shield

[bright kraken]

k

why do people not swap off on cocoon?

[bright kraken]

I wasn't there for Nymue or Council kill with my main group because was progging Larry with another, and that group got him enraging at 5%

I was parsing blue/purple, rest of group was grey ._.

[lavish quest]

They dumb

Or you in 98% damp

[raw summit]

I mean we are a ce guild id hope we dont enrage on larry lol

[bright kraken]

I mean I'm not on a ce guild so

I'm not even in the guild of the group on Larry and my main group isn't even a guild

[fickle forge]

You should

Look man I was a decent pumper @wheat jay

[bright kraken]

Yeah I always did it but then people kept bashing it so I assumed it must be decent to bash -x- low IQ hivemind fr

[elfin surge]

dumb bitch

[lavish quest]

Classic where you dictate the loot

[fickle forge]

Mud yet again with the fury warrior

[elfin surge]

nah arms

[fickle forge]

Nice fury warr Mud

[elfin surge]

for some reason its not arms ir fury its just dps warrior

but i was 2h arms spec

[lavish quest]

It detected a fury main

[elfin surge]

[fickle forge]

We going in team

[lavish quest]

Show Vesa how it done

[fickle forge]

This is why I don't do shuffle man

[lavish quest]

Still can be a fast queue

[fickle forge]

Holy fuck we in man

[lavish quest]

Was it worth it?

[thick sky]

New war asking how do i whisper to players?

i'm on 1.5 mmr but dealing with a lot of toxicity in my dms

[boreal stone]

dont whisper ppl

if u get whispered, ignore them

if they become insanely toxic i.e racist etc. report them

dont be a snowflake and report ppl for calling u bad tho, just ignore them

[grand scaffold]

the guy ignore you

😂

means he can whisper you, but you cant whisper him

[thick sky]

[fallen estuary]

1.5 toxicity is that? Oh lord wait till you get to the 2ks LOL

[fickle forge]

Frost destro DH Mugambala

[lavish quest]

So no. All is in balance.

[fickle forge]

Bro signed up for our 3s LFG with the description 'elite'

[grand scaffold]

Looooooool

[elfin surge]

are u rating shaming?

[fickle forge]

Yes

Please don't reply to me unless you're very high rated (1500 EU, 3600 NA)

[elfin surge]

the ego on this guy

[lavish quest]

Yeah, that 1200 might as well be glad if it's eu

[chilly sand]

An idea to buff warriors in pvp right now, lemme know what you guys think. Sweeping strikes not on the gcd. Yay or nay.

I'd love to hurricane bladestorm then hit 2 people with a fat execute right after. Am I asking for too much 😂

[grand scaffold]

but then unhinged would be useless

what we need imo is a crit buff

for warr specifically

and unnerf avatar

and cs

wed be S+

the last 2 dont need it

but crit buff would be cool

[fickle forge]

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

This one too

[lavish quest]

Gg good luck

[fickle forge]

Yeah I'm 3-0 rn....

[wheat jay]

warrior broken

nerf

[lavish quest]

How?

[wheat jay]

3-0 in 3x caster lobby

[lavish quest]

I need to know

[wheat jay]

[plucky night]

are the queues fast today?

[fickle forge]

E K S D E E ? !

[plucky night]

what build you using?

[fickle forge]

How the fuck did I even win a single round

Destro frost fire on Mugambala

With Hpala

Should be joever for me

[lavish quest]

Explain the how

Are they paid actors?

[fickle forge]

The priest lives in my hometown

New bromance about to begin?!

[green anchor]

Straight to brojob

[fickle forge]

I'm debating to drop TR and go spear vs dragons

[elfin surge]

[fickle forge]

Was set up for 5-1, but barely lost a round with the priest

[elfin surge]

god i hate shuffle

[fickle forge]

Have you tried just winning instead?

[elfin surge]

lol

i always win never lose

but doesnt make it fun

[fickle forge]

Mud's 0 cr rn

He's washed

[elfin surge]

waiting until last 2 weeks

like i did last season

[fickle forge]

Yeah that's a good way to burnout

Imagine willingly sit 30 min Qs for 2 weeks straight

[elfin surge]

did

r1 ratings are really only achievable during the last 2 weeks.

or even last 5 days depending on the season

[fickle forge]

Ye that's fair

But are you pushing R1 shuffle?

[elfin surge]

yeah?

why else would i q

[fickle forge]

Maybe you shouldn't Q?

[elfin surge]

why

[fickle forge]

Cause scuffle is horrible?

[elfin surge]

am i bad or something

not good enough to get r1 shuffle

[fickle forge]

Exactly

[elfin surge]

carried by team in 3s?

nah

[fickle forge]

This 0 cr dood over here thinking he's gonna get R1

[elfin surge]

did it last season ill do it again

grinded from 0cr

[fickle forge]

This is why you're burned out of the game smh

Remember when Mud was a streamer and would spam 2s viewer games from morning till evening?

[elfin surge]

no cuz ive always worked full time

my first and final shuffle of last season queued 2 weeks apart.

[fickle forge]

Can't believe Mud beat Barbieelf

Real one

[lavish quest]

Mud you're 13. Your McDonald's job can't be that bad

[grand scaffold]

😂

mud is 13?

yo guys

how do i add a 50 ms delay to a wow macro

[fickle forge]

Mud is 22

I know cause he talked about his age with this girl in 2021

[boreal stone]

why would u do that lol?

[grand scaffold]

reasons

i have a very good one too

[boreal stone]

elaborate

[eternal hare]

100%

sweeping is the worst feeling button to press in all of wow, has to be

off gcd or make it do damage

[deft wharf]

Make bladestorm work with sweeping again

Not just unhinged

Bring back bloodbath too, pile all that shit on and spin at ppl pressing w

[lavish quest]

MoP second wind!?!

[deft wharf]

At that rate bring back throwdown and intervening banners

Remove charge root for charge stun too

[lavish quest]

100% agree, let's do it

[boreal stone]

Skull banner

mop safeguard to where intervene removed roots as well

Unhinged unnerfed

spear removed and replaced by legit anything else

hamstring off GCD or built into a rotational ability

(DH presses throw galive and its the same 50% slow but it also does like 30% of their damage XD)

Recklessness buffed in some fashion for arms so that warlords isnt a completley dead talent node

list goes on and on

[spice hornet]

Give back necro banner plz

[fickle forge]

What did the wise man say?

I don't understand why DH isn't like getting immediately completely nuked

[lavish quest]

It's a cockroach, it got "nuked" 5 times and survived

[gray umbra]

anyone able to even pla yrn

taking a q just puts me back into valk with a debuff timer

can barely log in

same for partner

[fickle forge]

😴

[fallen estuary]

fucking dream lobbies

why cant i get these lobbies with those classes that just stand still

[wheat jay]

@elfin surge help, kargish is having mental breakdown

[elfin surge]

where

[wheat jay]

3s discord

[elfin surge]

whats that

[elfin surge]

not in it

[wheat jay]

@fickle forge you need help habibi?

[fickle forge]

How come I can check every single DH I face, and see they've got higher CR on their DH than they do on their main spec for multiple seasons

[wheat jay]

@mild thunder

[bright kraken]

okay so my main server is down but others arent

i see how it is

[lavish quest]

Not even 69. Disgusting

Should be your DH in the second photo too

[wheat jay]

nah

i gave up on dh

i cba

disgusting shit

[mild thunder]

gigachad

only cringelords play dh

isn’t that right, @limber relic ?

[lavish quest]

Artji plays DH till he hit a wall 😏

[wheat jay]

there are no walls for dh tho

xD

[lavish quest]

When'd you brake 4k?

[wheat jay]

too easy

i need something that wrecks me

mentally and physically

playing survival abuses me more than kargish abuses his desk

[lavish quest]

Can't blame him, he plays warrior. Most frustrating thing.

[bright kraken]

@fickle forge any good arms youtubers to watch to figure out what the fuck to do?

[fickle forge]

Yeah me

[lavish quest]

Link?

[fickle forge]

No

: )

Real answer though, hardly any youtubers for WoW PvP

Bajheera maybe

But in periods

[bright kraken]

I already watch you every hour of every day boo

I must make karg proud

-x-

@fickle forge if my main issue is I don't keep enough uptime, when should I peel back then/use defensives in caster lobbies?

As a melee should I play maps differently to my group? Like, on that 3 caster mugambala my only win was when I went up the stairs to los

[wheat jay]

Main thing, you're not immortal, you HAVE to trade

You need uptime

But if your healer is in cc, and you can't live

You can intervene healer or leap to him to los

Stabilize, wait out burst and go back in

Don't do that often tho xD

Main thing is NEVER waste a global

You should always press something

[bright kraken]

I thought leap was for uptime tho

I'm getting mixed signals >:(

[fickle forge]

Yeah so, this is me earlier today in a Mugambala lobby with fire, frost, destro and Hpala

Leap for uptime, Charge for uptime and Intervene to dip

[wheat jay]

You only got one, it depends on situation

[fickle forge]

Map matters at a lot

Larger maps like Mugambala and Tol'vir just forces low uptime

[wheat jay]

Ye, small map you can just walk behind corner most of the time

[fickle forge]

Hook Point means you can smash a lot more

But like you gotta be real depending on the lobby

I'm not gonna let the fire mage free Combustion on me or let the frost CC me and my healer to hell on his Veins

Then you're just forced to dip cause map is too large

Worst thing you can do in a caster lobby is to get dragged too far back

[bright kraken]

So more or less los on cds, defensive on cc, Zug Zug if else

[fickle forge]

WoW is a game about trading CDs right

If you're being full popped by casters, you respond by either trading defensive CDs and maintaining uptime, or you dip and LoS

If you see a lock with PI and Ironbark, and you got no purges to answer, then you should probably just dip till it's over

Playing the only melee in a caster lobby is comp dependant really

Also 3s fucking caved my head in

Gonna go raid McD

Get the last bulk meal in before the cut

[bright kraken]

hug

[lavish quest]

@elfin surge See look at Karg, that's how you get the egirls.

[elfin surge]

lmao

[wheat jay]

We caved demon hunters heads in too

You're just built different i guess

[fickle forge]

[fickle forge]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in an arena. A Mugambala arena. A Mugambala arena with demon hunters. And demon hunters make me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in an arena. A Mugambala arena. A Mugambala arena with demon hunters. And demon hunters make me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in an arena. A Mugambala arena. A Mugambala arena with demon hunters. And demon hunters make me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in an arena. A Mugambala arena. A Mugambala arena with demon hunters. And demon hunters make me crazy.

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-handshake-muscle-strong-man-gif-5783927

[limber relic]

Yea

[mild thunder]

so you’re a cringelord?

[limber relic]

Only my dh

[spice hornet]

Seif is it true you are FOTM refilled?

Refilled

Reroller** ong

[limber relic]

No i just wanted to know what all the fuzz is about w dh

Made it like 3 days ago, got 2100 in solo now im bored

[fickle forge]

Not shitting you when I say that every single DH I've faced in 3s is lower cr on their main class

[mild thunder]

you already have like 300 solo shuffle games after 3 days 😭

[mild thunder]

they just hadn’t found their right spec yet. they were born to be demon hunters

you’re just a hater

[limber relic]

[fallen estuary]

Dhs are going to be homeless after the nerfs that are obviously (never) brewing to come

[plush elk]

Light necro. Seconding bajheera. I think he has a series called let’s learn or something. Idk I could be off but he edits in snippets explaining his actions.

It’s not perfect and it’s not a breakdown, just a pop up in the situation but I’ve found it helpful while I’ve picked up warrior.

[mild thunder]

who tf is light necro?

[plush elk]

Light necro, as in lightly pulling an old topic

[mild thunder]

what

[plush elk]

Old forum manners shit lol just move on

[mild thunder]

nah man i even urban dictionary'd that shit and couldnt find anything

[plush elk]

I don’t think urban dictionary cares about old forum crap from the mid 2000s. It just means you’re addressing or replying to a dead/old or already addressed topic. Like a necromancer

[violet fossil]

LIGHT NECRO?

[stark gulch]

someone convince me I'm not playing with a bunch of bots in random bgs

gooood looooort

[mild thunder]

retail is just a backup to SoD

can we PLEASE get some fucking fixes?????

unbalanced, deflated af season because blizz doesnt give a shit

[lean burrow]

it's one of the easiest seasons, didn't you know?

[mild thunder]

i’m 99% sure this isn’t even true

pretty sure there’s only 600 players above 2400 in NA

[lean burrow]

you guys know any addon for arena stat log?

reflex is cringe

doesn't show cr

[bright cloak]

WoW Arena Logs is nice for reviewing data of recent matches, maybe less so for keeping a long-term record of your rating.

It also allows you to auto-record matches, which is great.

[bright kraken]

why do people say mage is kill target when the game is so much easier when mage isnt kill target

im saying this in caster and noncaster lobbies btw

[bright kraken]

Hpriest and outlaw

yay free rating

[bright kraken]

BM los's healer on the rounds i had with them

my teammates died

rogue kept pushing after i leapt out so i wouldnt get blasted from final reckoning at 24%

paladin kept pushing after we almost had hunter down but they got topped off

couldnt disarm rogue because they were off in narnia

dude had no defensives

AUUHGGHH

the hunter should have gone 0-6 with all due respect

[bright kraken]

hype

the hunter was on a map where you cant really los healer lmao

[amber sentinel]

Hi I just started playing Arena and im playing Arms in 2s at around 1800-1900 Rating. Recently had a Match against a Mw Monk and i wasnt able to get onto him. Am I better off just switching onto the Dps in those cases?

And do you guys have tips on how to Face Hunters in 2 s mainly playing against MM or BM

[bright kraken]

@fickle forge !!!!

[bright kraken]

if you aren't hitting anything, that's equivalent to a stun

if you cant hit something, its usually better to hit something else as long as you aren't gonna die from it

as for the hunter think idk tbh

[amber sentinel]

Okay that‘s what i thought. And in those cases when the Enemy dps sticks to my heal its probably best to Play around pillar so wen can los the Enemy heal and get pressure i assume?

[bright kraken]

Yeah, presumably

Although please note im a bit of a dumbass

Galartji, Kargish and Ndogo will be a lot more helpful than I probably

and Leland

i think they're asleep becausee EU or something

[amber sentinel]

Thx tho, you are probably still wiser than I am

[bright kraken]

i mean, i still spam everyone here with questions on wtf to do

[amber sentinel]

^^

[lavish quest]

No such thing as free rating in solos

[bright kraken]

😢

[bright kraken]

@lavish quest 2039

wish me luck please 🙏

[wheat jay]

6-0 incoming

[lavish quest]

I'm not a man with much luck

[fickle forge]

Starting to look a lot better

[bright kraken]

3-3, barely

should've been at least 4-2

[bright kraken]

how to do

i just realised that would push me over 2.1k

Bm and hpal

i shoulda just gone to bed fuckkkkk

[grand scaffold]

What's the question

Day time finally

[fickle forge]

You can win with KFC vs this

[bright kraken]

NO

whats KFC

Btw @fickle forge who should I have been hitting

Everyone said boomie

I was thinking healer

I did as they asked though

[bright kraken]

And weird thing was I actually had high uptime that game too

[bright kraken]

?

[wheat jay]

Hunter warrior healer

Name of a comp

Both boomy and mage were good targets

[fickle forge]

It's that thing that's better than McD

[fickle forge]

KFC has an easier time running down a mage tbh

Hunters eat mages

[bright kraken]

Well shit

I went boomy because I can't ever hit mages

:(

[fickle forge]

[fickle forge]

Frost isn't impossible to have uptime on

Arcane is impossible

[bright kraken]

And yet I get more uptime on arcane than frost unironically

Does that mean I'm cracked or on crack

[fickle forge]

Both probably tbh

On crack for even trying to train arcane

Cracked for making it work

[bright kraken]

I mean, when you give someone with no knowledge instructions, your best bet is to follow those instructions

Many people say to go mage if it's an option

I still dunno how to go frost mage

Is bladestorm just a mobility button instead of a cool down/defensive now?

[fickle forge]

Bladestorm is def mobility vs mages

[bright kraken]

How should I use it then?

Because obviously using charge is int

[fickle forge]

As a root breaker

Frost Nova? Spin out of it

Your healer needs to dispel Frost Bomb anyway

[bright kraken]

That's a healer mech? Thought that was a spell reflect mech oop

[lean burrow]

genius name

[fickle forge]

Both work, but you won't be able to stop bomb a lot of the times

Healer dispels it or you're RIP

[bright kraken]

In that case is reflect worth using to try and reflect or just wait it out to use for def?

[fickle forge]

Reflect bomb is okay, a lot of other specs play around dispels, so you either force their dispel there or you get the 300k explosion

Win win

[bright kraken]

How do I fight mages regarding blink/alter/nova/slow again?

Frost specifically since I appear to have found a way to hit arcane

And fire just seems to rapidly die

[fickle forge]

You mind this

And then you mid this

If you Charge into Ice Barrier, you risk getting rooted

When you break a nova root, he's slow immune for a bit

So mind your root DRs

When you're on full root DR, you can charge freely

[bright kraken]

So basically

I'm still confused

So just don't charge after a bladestorm/freedom?

[fickle forge]

You Bladestorm a root

Now you can't be CC'd and you're not rooted

He can't be slowed either, but you're still even on movement speed

If you charge a frost mage, make sure you're not charging into Ice Armor or that you're on full root DR

[bright kraken]

OH

YOU MEANT MY ROOT DR

LIKE DR OF ROOT ON ME

OH

[fickle forge]

Yes

: )

[whole gate]

Yo

Just switched from pve to pvp for the rest of the season

im wondering which dps spec is stronger and what embellishment do we have to use ?

[fickle forge]

Arms and mettle + verdant/silken

[fickle forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/897055819475091456/1209612235110879322/image.png?ex=65e78e2e&is=65d5192e&hm=a8ee6a704540ab77f1029fd5baacdc79afa0e86c02cf0ff9eb64187630d42c29&

[wheat jay]

dh needs to get nuked

then nuke destro

then elemental

and we're good

[lavish quest]

Oh now it needs nuked now that you don't play it

[wheat jay]

funny enough next for nerfs after that would be arms XD

[wheat jay]

yes

[lavish quest]

Arms needs boofs, you high

[fickle forge]

Artji had a period where he thought DH was fine

[elfin surge]

Kargish? Karanze? Never heard of them.

[fickle forge]

You would if you spent 3 seconds in a gym

[plucky night]

Any of you got the leggo this week? How much did it cost to craft?

[amber sentinel]

Was looking for tips on how to play into hunters in 2s mainly Bm/MM hunters

[grand scaffold]

dont charge in opener

[amber sentinel]

Okay but is it generally better to train the hunt or do i try to go for the heal in 2s against hunt ?

[lean burrow]

karanze > kargish

mud < mudx

[grand scaffold]

Karanze is better

[lean burrow]

Fury > Ndogo

[wheat jay]

Galartji > Galachad

[hazy portal]

how is warrior in pvp? which spec is best/more fun

[mild thunder]

cap

[mild thunder]

arms is good

fury is playable but doesn’t do anything particularly well

[elfin surge]

arms is mid

[hazy portal]

how is prot

?

[elfin surge]

you will be banished if u play prot in pvp

[hazy portal]

interesting

there goes that then

so arms or fury? are they similar playstyles

[elfin surge]

arms is the go to pvp spec

always has been

[hazy portal]

i see

im new to pvp

just spammed battlegrounds but wanting to do arena now

[hazy portal]

ty :)

[elfin surge]

yeah if you plan to start grinding arenas, arms would be the spec for that

[hazy portal]

ohhh okay cool

[lavish quest]

Or havoc DH

[elfin surge]

its also the most respected spec of warrior

[hazy portal]

oh lol im sure thats debated lmao

im using frost dk rn but im not sure ab it

[elfin surge]

fdk

[hazy portal]

is it bad? or just boring

[elfin surge]

fdk and fury have been poorly designed for pvp for a while. When they are viable its usually abusing unfun mechanics

makes people hate the specs

[hazy portal]

ohhh i see

are either of them viable rn?

[elfin surge]

they are okay

anything can be viable

[hazy portal]

true

[elfin surge]

depends on what you are trying to achieve

[hazy portal]

1800 rating for the achievement set tbh

but just wanna get better at pvp in general

its fun

[elfin surge]

if you only care about getting 1800 then play whatever is fun

u can play anything

but if you care about improving and pushing ratings

thats different

[mild thunder]

🧢

just because you’re mid at arms, doesn’t mean arms is mid

[hazy portal]

1800 is what im going for right now but the end goal is this for sure

[elfin surge]

If you like warrior play arms its almost always good and better than fury. Fury has some seasons where its good but arms is the safest spec if you care about long term.

[hazy portal]

i see

[mild thunder]

my favourite warrior spec is ww

[hazy portal]

dfsghjkl;jhgfds

[mild thunder]

agreed

[elfin surge]

[plush elk]

it ain't much, but the spell reflection kb instagrin

and don't worry, he was absolutely dead otherwise, guy was getting pumped

[wheat jay]

the only respected spec xD

[elfin surge]

💯

[brazen citrus]

need execute buffs more than ev

[lavish quest]

Warrior is the only respectable class

[amber heron]

Bro when i play fury

I just am completely in shock

At how a dh bleed is doing like 100k dps and gushing wounds hits for lkke 1k

[mild thunder]

cap

sv

[lavish quest]

No

Sv isn't a class as well

[mild thunder]

nah we’re in a class of our own

[amber heron]

Beo

Bro

[mild thunder]

bro

[amber heron]

Hunters fight from a distance

How is that respectable?

[mild thunder]

sv is melee

ish

[amber heron]

Also

U wear mail armor

Bc ur fucking weak

And small

And unable to carry the burden of plate armor

[mild thunder]

nah i just don’t need it

barbarian style

you gonna call Conan weak cause he wore leather? bro didn’t need that protection because he just mans the fuck up

[lavish quest]

Tell that to all the sv hunters at 40 yds

[amber heron]

Alright

What about the fact that u use poison to hurt ur enemys

Kind of womenlike no?

@mild thunder

All i hear is crickets bro

[mild thunder]

you gonna call Geralt a woman because he uses oils and poisons? smh

manliest man to ever man

[amber heron]

I mean geralt is cool

But i dont even know the lore i just watched the superman guy play him

Henry cavill

Bro that guy is like an outlaw rogue

[mild thunder]

nah fuck the tv show

so ass

witcher 3 is peak

[lavish quest]

Against monsters tho, in general

[mild thunder]

dh are monsters

[amber heron]

XD

that we can all agree on

[lavish quest]

So its acceptable on them alone

[amber heron]

Well i mean even if u gave warriors serpent sting

Still wouldnt out dps dh

If u baked it into ms

[bright kraken]

tfw you lose 2 games because your teammates are losing healer because too much aggressive at 2k rating

fuckking

i should have won at least 4-2

fucking hel

what, is it my fault for not running safeguard because they blew up in a single cd window?

fyi i was rooted BOTH times either way

and it was the first burst windo

[bright kraken]

and now im getting called a troll because a dk got mad we lost because

i dont even fucking want to

1942 LETS FUCKING GO

WE PUSHING WOOOO

NET GAIN OF -67 o r soetmihgin

[bright kraken]

?

[vast kindle]

Nice comeback :>

[raw summit]

Your ui pains me

[bright kraken]

interesting

[bright kraken]

that monk is throwing everytime they get druid

[bright kraken]

@fickle forge what are some targets i just do not go after even if my teammate says

bruh

thats a corpse

[fickle forge]

There's never a case like that

Everything is comp dependant

But I'd avoid training DH unless you got an MM hunter

[bright kraken]

2-4 MM Rdru Demo FroMage HPr

on the map above

that damage diff though

is it because i didnt intervene enough/run safeguaard?

[fickle forge]

Seems like a 6-0 lobby for the MM

Did he get 6 wins?

[hazy portal]

they added drifting to wow ??

[tawny elm]

not sure how to play when i get picked as focus target. try to stay in and use personal and hope rest helps out or keep away and kite

feels weird to kite as warrior 😒

[bright kraken]

honestly forgot

dont think i snipped the win screen either

[fickle forge]

Vesa's shuffle arc will def entertain a lot of coffees for me

[bright kraken]

WHAT'S THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN

[fickle forge]

: )

Look on the bright side, you 6-0'd a DH lobby

[bright kraken]

and that was 1950 MMR when i've hit 2040 before

its like saying i 6-0'd a 1.5k lobby

[wheat jay]

Its shuffle

1500 is the same as 2100

[bright kraken]

what the fuck does that make 2040 then

[fickle forge]

Is it really though lmao

2k and 1.5k are the same 😎👍

[bright kraken]

so im shit for not being able to 6-0 easily then

reeeeeeeee

[fickle forge]

No but I see how you see it all

You could go 5-1 in your next lobby and then you've peaked

[bright kraken]

queue just popped, its mugambala

how do i got 6-0

if i get 6-0 i hit 2.1k

then i can sleep

bro i marked my words i havent slept in a week since then bro

bruh this would've been an easy at least 4-2 if there was someone at that low rating FML

[fickle forge]

??

Oh wait this a diff lobby

[bright kraken]

my issue atm is casters at this rating range

[fickle forge]

Long way till 2.4k

[bright kraken]

BRO IM SO CLOSE

[fickle forge]

Yeah they only get worse as you progress

[tawny elm]

is there any other discord where you can get some help with noob questions?

[bright kraken]

this one

[fickle forge]

They're more frequent and way better at the game

[bright kraken]

[bright kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-out-cage-angry-gif-24075632

[tawny elm]

guess i just as bad questions then since i get ignored 😄

[bright kraken]

just do @ everyone and they'll all notice dont worry

(dont)

[fickle forge]

Went into a 3.5k xp caster lobby on like 2380 mmr

[wheat jay]

3s are worse

[bright kraken]

@fickle forge nagrand, frost rdru

what do i do

[wheat jay]

R1s at 2k mmr

[fickle forge]

What's your question pal?

[wheat jay]

Die

Or oneshot someone

[fickle forge]

Go affli, don't overextend and stop UA casts

Pick demo for pact

[wheat jay]

Storm bolt drain life

And you should be good

[fickle forge]

Drain Life has to be stopped

[tawny elm]

struggle atm with surviving when i get picked as the focus target. i run out of defensives and just slowly goes down

cant really kite either

[fickle forge]

You might just be trading defensives poorly, arms is one of the more durable specs atm

[tawny elm]

hmm ok

[fickle forge]

Can always upload a VOD in review where you think you die too easily

[tawny elm]

mby should be more observant on when opponents pop their cooldowns instead of just use wall when i start to get low

[fickle forge]

Yeah, WoW's about trading CDs

Reacting to HP is a good way to lose

[tawny elm]

okok

[bright kraken]

2 rounds in lost both and i was on top and 2nd highest dps position respectively

2 more rounds later im 2-2

looks to be a healer 6-0 game

@fickle forge im growing

[fickle forge]

Fat dam and uptime = Wins 😎

Looks like a fistweaver?

[bright kraken]

it was

[fickle forge]

Man should get absolutely ran through in a caster lobby

Sheep into fear on CD

[bright kraken]

shrug

@fickle forge queue popped already please bestow thine faith upon me

ok someone declined and it didnt pop immediately so must've been a healer so back in the queue for another 50 min

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-out-cage-angry-gif-24075632

popped again, mugamabala

shitttt

[fickle forge]

Have you tried sleeping during the night?

[bright kraken]

MW BM FUCK YES

this at least should be easier

[lavish quest]

Until my parter doesn't use defensives despite we easily winning in seconds because they have nothing else

[fickle forge]

Don't tell her WW+DH is the best cleave in the game

[lavish quest]

Fat chance

Bug put sec instead of min

[wheat jay]

I pray for your duelist 🙏

[bright kraken]

and yet we won first round

hehe

lost second because WW burst

._.

2-1

3-1

im at least not dropping

4-1

holy shit

@fickle forge

[lavish quest]

Very noice

[bright kraken]

i accidentally made a mog for it in advance haha

@fickle forge Any words of advice for the home run>

[wheat jay]

Gz

[lavish quest]

Keep playin the slots

[fickle forge]

Congrats 😎👍
Keep pushing

[bright kraken]

one word to ask

Should I start hitting 1.8k on my alts, then come back for the 2.4 push?

or just spearhead it now

[lean burrow]

dh 1-5

as it should be

[bright kraken]

i would've gone 6-0 too if i didnt accidentally tunnel and los heaelr

[fickle forge]

Spearhead

You won't gain anything from alting now

[bright kraken]

1.8k sets on other classes

ratio + L + asagna

[fickle forge]

You got enough furry mogs already

Time to get the weapons

[bright kraken]

kek

[tawny elm]

what do you use to capture gameplay with?

[lavish quest]

Slaughter a mage in 17s

Only a 3-3

And this before

[tawny elm]

i never get kudos for a clutch fear going in for a kill 😦

[lavish quest]

It was a defensive leap I think. I leap out to his port at like 5%

[lavish quest]

Rogue leaves what would likely turn into an easy 4-2 for him...???

[fickle forge]

Sub rogue?

[lavish quest]

Yeah, sub rogue left, but the hunter was 0-4 at that point

I was peelin him well, but man was still getting some dubs

You run Disarm, Safeguard, Banner against them right?

[fickle forge]

Yeah

Idk how sub wins any rounds there at all

Arms Hpala lobby

Should be impossible

Maybe he got the /afk bug

[lavish quest]

You underestimate how hard people throw even with me bannering openers, disarming dances, and intervening in between

What do you typically run when there's not a sub rogue? Sharpen, Storm, Commander?\

Slap on safeguard in place of commander when needing to protect some casters and like DKs?

[fickle forge]

I rarely ever Safeguard outside of sub lobbies

Safeguard is really good, but other talents are more reliable

I run Disarm into DK, warr, sub, MM and enh

I'm still not entirely sure if Disarm is worth into assassa or not

[lavish quest]

Interesting, still trying to nail down the honor talents and when to use where and when

[fickle forge]

Hardly any arms warr I face atm pick Disarm

Which is just complete fucking troll

Defaulting to commander too often is int

[lavish quest]

Probably, just feels nice to run. But you're likely right

[fickle forge]

If DH ever becomes disarmable again, I'd pick it into that as well

[lavish quest]

Do you ever swap off Storm outside of Sub?

[fickle forge]

Nah not really

Bladestorm too good

Frost DK is my only other exception

[lavish quest]

Thanks for the tips

Another leaver game, but still on the up

😎 👍

Prob woulda ended a 5-1, rips

[fickle forge]

You got the mmr though

Still something

Scuffle is just

Literally fighting Blizzcon champs at 2.4k mmr