pvp

[tardy dock]

All his experience

All he has learned

And im slowly absorbing it

Into myself

Im combining his power

With my power

To create the ultimate warrior

I will be like Achilles

Without the heel

I will be like Superman

Without the kryptonite

Nothing will be able to stop me

I will become the most powerful warrior in existence

[elfin surge]

holy fuck thats fire @tardy dock

[fickle forge]

U see i watch magnusz play
And i absorb his play
All his experience
All he has learned
And im slowly absorbing it
Into myself
Im combining his power
With my power
To create the ultimate warrior
I will be like Achilles
Without the heel
I will be like Superman
Without the kryptonite
Nothing will be able to stop me
I will become the most powerful warrior in existence

[simple rock]

will you absorb dino too

[cyan mauve]

gets ddosd

[boreal stone]

bro is 1600 on warrior freaking out

lol

[violet fossil]

let him cook

[boreal stone]

hes gonna burn down the fucking kitchen

he is NOT Gordon Ramsey

[violet fossil]

lol

[bright kraken]

Nah nah they ain't Gordon Ramsay they're Walter White

[iron nacelle]

??? that was literally you before Outlaw Fury, @tardy dock is going to dominate soon.

[boreal stone]

outlaw fury?

?????

@iron nacelle

[bright kraken]

Whenabouts are we predicting season end?

[boreal stone]

1-2 months prob

[iron nacelle]

yeah your first glad was outlaw fury in shadowlands, Yo about to be blow up too, show him respect

[boreal stone]

it wasnt, all good tho

15 wins as dh fury rsham, the rest as ret war rsham

I won the flarkness tourney as fury outlaw

that season

[iron nacelle]

@tardy dock join Mudcord, Mud is only A tier but it's popping more than Magcord

[elfin surge]

bro im c tier i fell off

[iron nacelle]

Damn down to C? @fickle forge we gotta get him benching only hope

[wheat jay]

Mud is in the mud

Washed classic andy

[iron nacelle]

And Mag didn't even have to put him there

Magnuz would put Mud in the mud if they ever 1v1d real talk. Mud is an ok warrior but he’s not on the level of Bageeraz or Swifty talking about TBC / wotlk days. I find it hilarious that all thse zoomers look up to the current top warriors but trust if these warriors were to play vs old school warriors like klinda, swifty, baggeeraz, etc no shot.

[fickle forge]

Mud's mental is only so fragile cause he doesn't gym

[hearty orchid]

the only classic warrior Mud can't bench is Veev

[lavish quest]

Double lock mage lobby just feels unwinnable regardless of how I play

[tardy dock]

Wait how do u play vs 2 mages and 2 locks

[tardy dock]

Give link

[lavish quest]

2 lock, 1 mage

[tardy dock]

Does any1 know why dont totems and pets have an hp bar for me?

Makes clicking em extremely hard

[violet fossil]

should be like minor where you select pet health bars to show up

[lofty lynx]

What do I buy first as Arms Warrior? My main-hand weapon or my 4 set bonus?

[tardy dock]

Prob tier set

Cuz u can buy it gradually

And 2 set is a nice midway power spike

In fact the first two pieces are only 700 each I think

Meanwhile good luck earning 1800 conq while ure with full honor gear

Also make sure u only get tokens from vault

U need 3 weeks, 1 week each for a socket in helm, bracers and waist

Ur rings, shoulders and boots should be crafted, neck craft is optional

[fallen estuary]

WEAPON FIRST

weapon is a HUGE diff in your damage output

[gray umbra]

why are arcane mages so much more slippery than frost/fire

[bright kraken]

first game of the night i go up against an SP that goes 6-0

im scarde

;-;

[bright kraken]

'bro you're a warrior you should be calling' im a fucking surv mythic raider that started this expac

why cant people just call a fucking kill target when i ask for one

I DONT KNOW WHAT IM DOING

I KNOW HOW TO DPS THATS IT

ele-SP-DH into frostMage-WW-DH

[grand scaffold]

into ww dh

go ww

anything with the mage you go mage

[bright kraken]

i did and couldnt hit them for shit

[grand scaffold]

were you charging in first global?

[bright kraken]

no

i was mounting to them

i was holding charge and just walking to them

[grand scaffold]

can you record a game where you arent doing well

i can prob help more if that happens

[grand scaffold]

were you maintaining hamstring?

[bright kraken]

yes

[grand scaffold]

if you stormbolted them did you charge also

[bright kraken]

yes

i think

[grand scaffold]

ok try not to do that

unless you literally wont be able to touch them otherwise

did you run battlefield commander?

[bright kraken]

yes

why would i run disarm

everyone said its shit on DH

WW is only affected for fists

frost isnt affected

ughhh

[fickle forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1206361162430808174/1207820760824021042/image.png?ex=65e109bd&is=65ce94bd&hm=11ea634c6266ebfa6e153eeae8a5d9b829fdc25b1d9ef5b024274051feeb7a24&

@grand scaffold Fury arc?!!?

Zhrey stood no chance

[grand scaffold]

you liking it?

[fickle forge]

No

Lol

I just streamed a game for Artji for fun

[grand scaffold]

oh lol

[bright kraken]

DUDE

FUCKING

THREW LAST GAME

THEN LEFT

WHAT THE FUCK

first two games we were close but they just couldnt keep us up

im not going to sleep until i get 2.1k thats it

fuck this

[fickle forge]

Girl's gonna pull an all nighter^2

[bright kraken]

i dont give a shit at this rate

https://youtu.be/-yW4CMjpeNk?si=jQ-1rW9jD4dAf8Em

[grand scaffold]

you know fury is bad

when people dont run intervene

or rally

smh

[dull zodiac]

Yo, havnt play wow in ages, just started out, fixed my keysbinds/ui and now im farming honor in rbg to gear up, my actionbars are full, are there any good burst macros? 😄

[wheat jay]

not rly

everything is on global now

[dull zodiac]

like avatar and roar or somthing

[wheat jay]

i guess

but you don't rly want to have just oneshot macros anymore

youi want control

and you can just press it at the same time yourself

you can if you want

[dull zodiac]

how often u use ignore pain?

[grand scaffold]

basically on cd

[wheat jay]

every time you take any dmg

[grand scaffold]

ya

[wheat jay]

warrior is fairly simple and straightforward

but you're not unkillable

so keep that in mind 😄

[dull zodiac]

yeah i need to gear up abit, got the honor gear from ah now im just spamming bgs, is there away to what to buy first? wep/neck/ringgs etc? i got 2 trinkets now, but dunno if i should save conquest for wep insted and fill rest with honor along the way

[wheat jay]

weapon 1st

then chest/legs/helmet

then boots shoulders hands

then smaller pieces

then accessories

then trinkets

[dull zodiac]

i guess i craft boots aswell first

[wheat jay]

yep

you can have 2 crafted pieces with embellishment

not sure what warr crafts

helmet and boots i guess?

@grand scaffold @fickle forge

[grand scaffold]

better to use tier helmet and craft shoulders

i myself have crafted bracers with mastery boost

[wheat jay]

there you go @dull zodiac

[grand scaffold]

just bc i get the exact stats i want

but

if youre just gearing up

craft the helmet

its minor diff

[bright kraken]

no rating, warrior was being a dumbass and chasing BM with no concern for staying alive

ughh

[wet pollen]

Is there an addon that sorts enemy arena frames so healer is always arena target 1?

[bright kraken]

hey funny number

[dull zodiac]

Anyone using plater?

[grand scaffold]

plater is the top G addon

very nice

[dull zodiac]

Yeah i got it to but i been pve since 3 expansions so dont rly have a good pvp profile, any suggestions? 😄

[bright kraken]

@fickle forge how do you win when your teammate is kill target and they're being a dumbass

and also how do you help them survive when they arent a dumbass, other than using intervene before cds

[fickle forge]

I only have boots dude, never bothered to make 2nd embel

[bright kraken]

and ccing bursting dps

[wheat jay]

me

why?

[wheat jay]

cant help them

they gotta help themselves xD

that's why kargish likes playing with me

[fickle forge]

Intervene, fear, Disarm, stuns, Rally etc.
And then you do more pressure than they do and race against the clock 😎👍

[bright kraken]

so basically, exactly as i listed

nice

[fickle forge]

Pretty much, if they can't live off of arms 20 peels then it's just a race on who downs the downie first

[wheat jay]

and healer

xD

[dull zodiac]

got any good profile to share?

[wheat jay]

like, sometimes games are near unwinnable

[wheat jay]

ummmmm

1sec

mine looks like this

[fickle forge]

Yah, if you're playing a cleave and it's unwinable, train healer 😎👍

Most healers are dog and crumble when sneezed on

[wheat jay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/905959827891712050/1206320180649525278/World_Of_Warcraft_2024.02.11_-_19.36.03.07.DVR_-_Trim.mp4?ex=65db9437&is=65c91f37&hm=761031dd263217572b59bfdd9634915e7566a8f09cb4bff17bb849049aa341a9&

there's like 20 diff addons and auras tho xD

but that's mostly how it looks

[elfin surge]

hunter scum

[dull zodiac]

cool, can u share it? 😄

[wheat jay]

sure

i can send later

not ingame now

[dull zodiac]

its ur own or?

[wheat jay]

ye

will probably look diff for you thop

im using custom gladiusex texture xD

that i changed in photoshop to look less dark

[dull zodiac]

Ah, yeah im doing a clean ui/addon. its so messy from my old dh/lock m+ runs xD

just need weak aura/plater and some addons for pvp and im set to farm that gear

[bright kraken]

finally going up

are you proud of me

[elfin surge]

Arent you a vulpera main?

[bright kraken]

ys

[elfin surge]

[grand scaffold]

go gnome

at this rate

[bright kraken]

andddddddddddddddddddd im back where i fucking started

5-1 to 0-6

(:

hell, im lower than where i started

[ruby condor]

yo im super new to the game ive chosed warrior but do you think my opener for pvp is correct i usually do ( Charge, hamstring, overpower, thunder clap, overpower, mortal strike, colossus smash, thunderous roar, avatar thet makes me bladestorm and then double overpower into sharpen blade)

[elfin surge]

Try not to charge first unless you really need to. You should already be mounted just run at them.

[fallen estuary]

Been a while since i played prot. Might spend my welfare mmr

[fickle forge]

It's gonna be a long night

[bright kraken]

;-;

[fickle forge]

Prob gonna shuffle my alt warr when I am home

[lavish quest]

Shuffle is a weird place

For extra context, that druid is wearing a gimp transmog with a fish and a bone, and is on moonguard

Putting RP degenerates in their place

Oh god there's more

🤣

[bright kraken]

please teach me the ways oh great one

[vast kindle]

Killing people from moonguard is like half the reason I got into pvp in the first place, nice lol

[fickle forge]

Dude I'm like 1 win off of 2.4k shuffle, but I cba the Q time 😴

Could go grocery shopping and cook dinner in the time that shit takes to pop

[fickle forge]

Stop

[vast kindle]

I legit haven't done shuffle since season 1 for that reason. Every time I try and queue, I fall asleep at my desk before the queue pops and I'm back at square one waiting again haha

[lavish quest]

Rofl, didn't want it to become a healer diff and for it to become a 3-3

[fickle forge]

Tried to do it yesterday, it popped at 22 min, got declined and then I sat till 42 min before I just logged off

[lavish quest]

And you right, shuffle is such a waste of life, but I'm trying to hit 2.4k 😦

Need another stimulus package lmao

[vast kindle]

Yeah it just gets worse the higher you go, I could watch the extended cut of lotr in between queue times lol

[lavish quest]

Step one, forget the ways of furry, embrace the ways of human
Step two, spin to win

[fickle forge]

My rule with shuffle is that I Q up, and if it doesn't insta pop within 6 min I just stop

Cba waiting

I'll go do something else

[vast kindle]

Nah, foxes are the chads of the animal kingdom. Only other land based mammal to be on every continent. Spinning is accurate tho

[lavish quest]

So you don't do SS is what you're trying to say?

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerd-meme-radar-gif-26497624

[vast kindle]

Lmao that's a great gif

[fickle forge]

Sometimes you're fortunate and you're the last spot in a lobby

[lavish quest]

Humans are land based mammals on every continent

[vast kindle]

That's why I said other lol

[lavish quest]

In much greater force I might say

There foxes in antartica?

[fickle forge]

Every furry benches the bar

[vast kindle]

Oh yeah tru, that is the one continent they haven't populated. They are still the second most successful land based species to populate the planet next to humans, at least according to Google sources haha

Back on the subject of shuffle though, I want to get back into it and grind because I really like the mogs and enchant this season but eh. I need to work up the energy to waste so much time :<

[fickle forge]

It's decent on wait time sub-2.1k

[harsh delta]

Had a lobby with a devoker, another arms, and a ret (I'm also arms). Healers were disc priest and holy paladin. I had thought devoker would be the target but is that not the case? Staying on him and pressuring was brutal.

[elfin surge]

bro why so many furries

[fallen estuary]

YOU BRING GREAT HONOR TO THE LAND OF FISH

Lmaooooooo

[vast kindle]

We all collectively have dyslexia and read one of the specs as "furry warrior" and now we feel too embarrassed to leave.

[elfin surge]

[lavish quest]

This shoulda been a 6-0 too :/

[elfin surge]

[lavish quest]

Fury needs renamed with how degenerate society is I swear

[lavish quest]

Up 200 since yesterday

Think 205 technically

[vast kindle]

Tbf that's just an ai prompt of my in-game toon a friend made on a whim and I thought was cute lol, honestly not as damning as you think it is haha

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/henry-cavill-the-witcher-there's-no-coming-back-from-this-end-gif-12229950194578707072

[vast kindle]

I ain't going around spending no money on that art stuff. I'd have to have money for that is all I'm saying :'>

[lavish quest]

Pretty sure you can just download ai image generators now so there's no need to

[vast kindle]

Idk that I'd go to those lengths, I just like to use AI art to goof off mainly and see what kind of nightmare fuel I can come up that makes me laugh lol

I love foxes and I think they are probably the most interesting animal out there. But I don't need a bunch of self insert art of a two legged version fused with me to appreciate them, not that I'm hating on that or dislike it either. I just like them in all forms of art

[fickle forge]

Can it prompt my char bench pressing a mountain?

[vast kindle]

It can certainly try, would probably end up with something resembling Picasso and Goya having a baby tho lol

Honestly those are my favorite prompts, I love to see how the AI struggles to comprehend weird shit

[elfin surge]

[lavish quest]

The grind continues

@elfin surge

[elfin surge]

SHEESH

[lavish quest]

Yesterday and today

https://tenor.com/view/doge-dogecoin-gif-21323821

[fickle forge]

[lavish quest]

Sometimes we be struggling, it's not always straight up

Sometimes we get mages and locks and such

[grand scaffold]

the reason fury is called fury is because you become furious when you lose

[lavish quest]

[lavish quest]

Arms has that too

[grand scaffold]

fury on a new level

[lavish quest]

Haven't tried it this season. Played it a little last season and got 2.1 on it

[grand scaffold]

last season it was nice

i almost got 2600

i dont like it this season tho

tier set is ass

[lavish quest]

Fury not having bladestorm is criminal

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[lavish quest]

And a better defensive

[grand scaffold]

its just badly designed

aug fury and frost

worst designs

[lavish quest]

Just delete mage from game. Solved that one quick

[grand scaffold]

tbh idc about mages

remove evokers

aug spoils wow so easily

[lavish quest]

Aug is fine right now. Just make it uber ass so no one looks at it and we're chill

[grand scaffold]

yeah

either way

but if i start seeing aug dh or aug feral

ima lose my shit

[elfin surge]

im 0cr in shuffle

🙂

[lavish quest]

Damn R-last warrior

Either R1 or RLast, there is no in between

[grand scaffold]

i wish i had people to 3s with

ive decreased from 2334 to 2188

or something like that

[tardy dock]

Its actually only around 13%

[rotund trellis]

lol same, I play only 2s and it's sad

or 3s pugs with the druid just because I heal lol

[grand scaffold]

the legendary dmg gap is crazy

with conquest weapon you crit for about 200k on the high end on ms

it can go to 300k

0_0

[lavish quest]

Bruh, I be poppin a bottle when I see a 100k crit. How yall hitting so hard? Lmao

[rotund trellis]

mastery I think lol

but 200k is not uncommon in full gear

[lavish quest]

My mastery is decent.
And I sometime get 200ks. On like mages

I need to learn of this 300k technique I swear

Bruh, imagine if you could still make bladestorm apply MS and if you could sharpen it like MS.

[rotund trellis]

bs can apply 2 ms with the talent

[lavish quest]

They changed that

Its the 70% slow now

[river walrus]

Whattt?

Isn't there the unhinged talent that applies 2 mortal strikes??

[grand scaffold]

Yea

But they are 60% of normal dmg

[dull zodiac]

GUYS, what do i do with a [Verdant Trophy of Conquest]

[eternal hare]

craft gear

[dull zodiac]

is there a way to get faster flightstone

[lavish quest]

Oh that's what he meant

Yeah but that's trash

I mean more like an aoe MS debuff. Not the actual ability MS.

Aka how storm of destruction used to be

[eternal hare]

u get them from every pvp chest you get from winning, but u dont need FS for pvp

[dull zodiac]

for upgrading my honor gear 😄

[eternal hare]

that doesnt matter for pvp content, and for pve just run LFR

[dull zodiac]

oh, so my itemlvl doesnt increase from upgrading pvp items?

[eternal hare]

not in pvp content, honor gear scales to 476 and conquest to 489

no upgrading required

[dull zodiac]

ah cool, im full honor geared now. Is pvp or solo shuffel best way to go to get conquest

[eternal hare]

2s with someone you can queue a bunch with and wont dip after losses

the weekly quests to do blitzs and stuff should get you a piece as well

[dull zodiac]

i got 2x [Verdant Trophy of Conquest] do i need something else to craft gear with

[eternal hare]

yes, the rest of the materials you'll buy from the AH. you'll also need sparks of dreams which are pretty easy to come by

[dull zodiac]

yeah got 2x sparks, cuz in pve u need those crest thingys, is it same with pvp items?

[eternal hare]

no your trophy applies the 489 scaling to the crafted piece

[dull zodiac]

ah got it, thx

last questions, for the tier set do i wait for the conquest gear or shud i make the honor one

[eternal hare]

you can only turn conquest pieces into tier

[dull zodiac]

so the plan is to get those first before wep?

[eternal hare]

mmmm kinda toss up, depending on how much ur going to play between now and tuesday might be best to just cap ur vault and see what u get and dont spend any conq

if ur gonna farm a ton of conq this weekend weap first is probably slightly better

[boreal stone]

u can

[fickle forge]

😴

[boreal stone]

just not with hurricane

[grand scaffold]

😦

[dull zodiac]

oh im playing draenor ally, no crafters online, can i send craft order to hordes?

[rotund trellis]

fury on the suffering tier is based

[boreal stone]

list is as public and anyone on ur realm can fill it

[grand scaffold]

😦

this is how you know its bad

[dull zodiac]

when crafting pvp itms, it doesnt have to be full ilvl right?

[grand scaffold]

you just need the trophy

nothing else matters

[dull zodiac]

[Greater Verdant Trophy of Conquest] on shoulder doesnt work?

[boreal stone]

u need a normal one

greater only works on helm chest and legs

[fickle forge]

Strongest healer ego

[boreal stone]

read the tooltip

[dull zodiac]

ah dont have other one, should i craft it on something else?

whats recommended

wowhead saying shoulders with the trophy 😮

[boreal stone]

Imo

4 set on shoulder chest legs and gloves

crafted helm with verdant conduit

crafted boots

crafted rings and neck

and u should b set

[dull zodiac]

ah, i craft helm then

ignore shoulder

[dull zodiac]

what neck did u craft

[boreal stone]

torc of passed time

vers mast

[dull zodiac]

rip that u dont get any flightstones from arenas

[boreal stone]

u do tho

[dull zodiac]

not so much?

[tardy dock]

comparing the legendary weapon to 489 conq weapon

it deals 753.9 dps vs 706.4, an increase of 6.7%

it gives 64 more str and 351 stamina

however it gives crit which is really bad

[grand scaffold]

i mean

crit for 300k

compared to 200k

pretty big difference

[tardy dock]

idk how u calculated that

[grand scaffold]

i didnt

i saw it

also crit is not as bad as people saying it is

its not good

but its not atrocious

[tardy dock]

however magnusz reached the top ranks in 2v2 without this weapon

so it's absolutely not required

[grand scaffold]

i didnt say it was...

its just good

[tardy dock]

it is

[grand scaffold]

wish i had that legendary

not gonna break my ass spending gold on it tho

[tardy dock]

wait it's not bind on pickup?

[grand scaffold]

people charge like 200k a kill

is what i meant

[tardy dock]

what's the drop rate?

[grand scaffold]

idk

its incredibly low tho

[boreal stone]

crit isnt good

ur overall dps will decrease

but ur burst is higher

this is a damp meta tho

so its trash

[tardy dock]

yeah thats what im saying

the legendary weapon is not strictly better than conq weapon cuz of the crit

it's still prob better dmg-wise on avg

[elfin surge]

we are m+ pve bots now

[boreal stone]

the leggo is better

because its 1

free dot dmg

and 2

higher main stat

also

it looks cool

and u get an extra charge

[tardy dock]

ur profile pic makes me feel like i'm talking to a ghost

just words appearing out of nowhere

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-giff-gif-23240662

[dull zodiac]

Is there a way to earn conquest faster

[lavish quest]

Win more

But fastest way is prob 3s followed by 2s

[tardy dock]

work a real life job

buy gold with token

pay to get boosted

fastest way

in terms of conquest earned per hour of work

[dull zodiac]

is solo shuffle still a thing

[boreal stone]

Not for conquest

Que 2s and you should be chillin

[tardy dock]

i won

like 250 conquest

from a single SS game where i got i think 4 wins

or 5 i forgot

if u win 0 wins u don't get any conquest

1-2 wins should be like 100 conq

considering the queue time it's not great

2v2 rated arena is much better

cuz u get 97 conq per win

just need to find a healer who wont leave u after 2-3 losses in a row cuz u got honor gear

which is of course the hard part

[bright kraken]

you know when a dps is clearly going 0-6

and then

for some reason

when you go against them

they dont go 0-6

[fallen estuary]

guys

hes following me

mocking me

muds gangstalking me

[fickle forge]

We're doing the thing again

[vast kindle]

I got the leggo and just finished getting fully geared this week due to some mistakes I made with pve crafted gear forcing me to wait to get into pvp. It just objectively hits harder, I dont know exactly how much but it sure hurts haha. I went against a fully geared human arms warrior while farming sparks and he refused to do any footwork and made for a perfect training drummy lol, the dps difference was quite noticeable despite me still having crafted boots from last season and being a vulpera (which sims the worst out of all arms warrior races haha)

[fickle forge]

Here we go

Imma bet for 40 min Q

[grand scaffold]

yeah legit

the lego is really good

[vast kindle]

Yeah before the armor value changes I was deleting healers in stuns with mostly honor greens lol, granted not everyone was fully geared either cuz bg's, but that damage is disgusting hehe

It just gives you more oomph too, the extra dot makes you leech more and be harder to kill in big groups, and the channel works as an extra charge despite not hitting very hard

[lavish quest]

Happens to me all the time for some reason

[lavish quest]

Good thing it won't drop for me

😭

[bright kraken]

i just got a precast shatter off

that shits the best feeling ever

i have the wrong talents right

also what do i swap to get shatter

[grand scaffold]

its pretty rare where its worth actually playing shatter

but

youd drop cacophonous roar and bitter immunity to get it

and also dont play bitter immunity

its bad

[bright kraken]

What should I play instead?

also looks like i might go to sleep tonight

that said, I'm jinxing it huh

shit

[grand scaffold]

can play movement speed

auto attack speed

frothing berserker

all are better

i myself use the attack speed one

but movement speed is prob better

[bright kraken]

also someone said to not take fatility if there's a lot of immunes (i assume that other things like life swap would count too?) what would i swap for

or do i just take it and deal with less effectiveness

[grand scaffold]

life swap is not an immunity

[grand scaffold]

also never drop fbv

if you need fatality you drop improved execute

what they mean by immunity is iceblock, bop, or immune bubble

[bright kraken]

its not an immune but wouldnt it cause the stacks to drop?

[grand scaffold]

no

[bright kraken]

oh

im fucking dumb aren't i

[grand scaffold]

just these 3

[bright kraken]

its like

[grand scaffold]

maybe surv mending bandage

[bright kraken]

it uses one stack each time?

[grand scaffold]

not sure

[bright kraken]

you execute

[grand scaffold]

no

all 5

[bright kraken]

or something?

[grand scaffold]

so if someone dips below 30% health

[bright kraken]

ah

[grand scaffold]

and you execute them with 5 stacks

[bright kraken]

they just die after execute so no life swap

i see

[grand scaffold]

your execute does its dmg + the fatality stacks

[bright kraken]

lmao

[grand scaffold]

i dont play fatality tho

i dont think its very good tbh

improved execute too good to me

[grand scaffold]

fatality adds about 80k dmg btw

fully stacked

[bright kraken]

i was thinking they'd live the fatality and swap so it would have been pointless

look im a dumbass aight

[grand scaffold]

swap as in the priest thing?

[bright kraken]

because they'd need to stack from 0 again

yes

[grand scaffold]

swap doesnt happen automatically

if you cc them it cant happen

have to be out of cc to use it

[bright kraken]

i see

OH

i just realised why i was able to push

i wasnt listening to shreksophone

holy shit

[grand scaffold]

whats that lmfao

[bright kraken]

https://youtu.be/IHm5cpPRObQ?si=SohNbjT_wXDMU0xN

[grand scaffold]

🤣

[wheat jay]

Listen to sexy sax for max push

[bright kraken]

wtf

[bright kraken]

nah i was dropping when i was listening to it

haha

got lucky with an ele that went 0-6

[bright kraken]

OMG

oh wait a friend said if i lost rating they'd spank my ass

that's why im pushing

deep

[bright kraken]

alright so

how do you play frost mages again in shuffles

i legit cant win

cant touch them

if i walk, i cant reach them

if i charge, they blink and i still cant do anything

i dont wanna los my healer either

is it normal or concerning my worst matchups are ele sham, frost mage?

everything else i do at least decent against

[lavish quest]

Frost mage is a struggle. Ele it can go either way, should do okay against em

[bright kraken]

ele is usually a win but they are definitely annoying

[bright kraken]

what do i do for frostmage?

i lose every shuffle that has one atm

[bright kraken]

what the fuck is a prestige cloak no one told me about this

[vapid tartan]

Mount up and run at them, don’t hit them during alter time, and stop ray of frost

Drop ur dam when they have no mobility or when you have gap closers

[bright kraken]

what if they start bursting on me

or if i get rooted

[vapid tartan]

Then you go dstance and don’t line ur healer

[lavish quest]

Wait for them to play dumb and then kill them, or their teammate when they do

[vapid tartan]

Bladestorm thru roots, and you can reflect glacial and poly

[bright kraken]

how should i be using stances?

i havent done any stance dancing at this point yet

im gonna assume it kinda matters now im at like 2036?

i find it funny and sad and scary that me pushing rating entirely depends on whether the lobby has a mage or not

no mage = ez push

mage = cry

[vapid tartan]

Generally you should be in dstance when you have no uptime, or trying to live enemy offensive cds

Like when I’m running after a mage

Not gonna swap battle stance till I hamstring/piercing hpal

[bright kraken]

are stances on gcd?

[vapid tartan]

I don’t believe it’s on gcd have to check

There is a cd on how fast u can swap tho

[bright kraken]

is there a way to put a keybind on this?

or does it have to be on the actual bars themselves

[vapid tartan]

I have it bound on bars and that off to the side

[bright kraken]

nvm found it

it just doesnt list the keybind on the button

[lavish quest]

You can also just pull it from your spellbook and put it on your normal action bar

[bright kraken]

i dont wanna do that since you cant remove the one on the stance bar

these are my current binds, trying to think of new binds for them, hmm

c-g and c-r should be decent

[vapid tartan]

This macro should work for it to be one button

#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;[known:386164]!Battle Stance;[known:386196]!Berserker Stance

[bright kraken]

thank you!

very fitting icon

[mild thunder]

lol no

why would it

[grand scaffold]

idfk

it removes bleeds and all types of shit

[mild thunder]

just bleeds

and regular diseases and shit

it's literally just a regular dispel, and no sv is ever taking it into a warrior unless he's mentally deficient

[grand scaffold]

cloak probably removes it matter of fact

idk tho

[mild thunder]

if they run the pvp talent, yes

it's an immune

ish

[lavish quest]

Can remove with addons

[bright kraken]

i havent even made WAs for arms yet bro why would i do that

hell my fucking map is on the middle of the screen

owo

i prolly should tbh although what even needs to be tracked as arms

avatar appears under char, bleeds on targets

[fickle forge]

2.4k check @bright kraken

[bright kraken]

are you proud of me

[fickle forge]

Almost there

[lavish quest]

Almost halfway there

😉

[wheat jay]

Higher than me on survi

Rip

Im washed

[lavish quest]

Isnt' everyone?

On the c-tier class no less

[wheat jay]

Well at least I pump in 3s

If only I played them more

This time its healer dodging us

[lavish quest]

Was about to say, you don't play 3s

[wheat jay]

Well last time I did we went 10-5 at like 2-2.1k mmr

Got my orgasmic kill on lock too

Man I sound like im fucking finishing there xD

[lavish quest]

The win trading I've heard so much about

[lavish quest]

I don't want to know

[bright kraken]

how much actually tho

[lavish quest]

23% approximately

[wheat jay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/905959827891712050/1206320180649525278/World_Of_Warcraft_2024.02.11_-_19.36.03.07.DVR_-_Trim.mp4?ex=65db9437&is=65c91f37&hm=761031dd263217572b59bfdd9634915e7566a8f09cb4bff17bb849049aa341a9&

Here, enjoy

[lavish quest]

The hub is banned to? What has the world come to

[lavish quest]

Was all Kargish

[bright kraken]

so 2.1k is about halfway to 2.4k

[lavish quest]

Hard to say tbh

When I hit 2.4k last season I dropped from 2.3k to like 2k several times before I broke the roof

ANd when I finally did, it was when I went on a loss streak down like 200 rating, then I went on a win streak, up like 300

[wheat jay]

All the dmg was me tho

Explosive, chakrams

I did like 70% there xd

[lavish quest]

But Kargish spun to win right after

But you're right, SV needs nerfed

Sending the clip to a dev to get this fixed right away

chatting

[bright kraken]

good lobby? :3333

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/yip-yap-yop-gif-15418233809026651394

[fickle forge]

Nope, good luck

[bright kraken]

yeah i trust it after 3 games

[bright kraken]

what the fuck am i supposed to do

alright i figured out what to do

i go on a singleplayer sidequest

[wheat jay]

Kill was all me

And stun from James

Easy

[fickle forge]

One day you'll be high on the meters lil' bro

[wheat jay]

I was in shadowlands ;__;

[bright kraken]

ok good and bad news

good news im kinda bouncing betwween 2005~2035

good news it looks like im trending upwards when i go 2-4 > 4-2

[fickle forge]

I'm doing that that dumb thing where I can't be bothered with shuffle Q time, so I Q my alt until they're at the same mmr and sit the same Q time as main

Repeat the process

[lavish quest]

Saturdays suck for SS

Long af queues and all losses all the times because the throwers come out

[fickle forge]

Dude

I tried to Q Rsham for short Qs

Went 5-1 in the first lobby

And I lose 200 mmr???????

Dog game tbh

[onyx marlin]

+1

[lavish quest]

Yeah I shouldn't have started queuing, but all g, I'll just play something else

[fickle forge]

Game just a bit dog rn

DH nerfs soon surely

[lavish quest]

Fuck bro, they've been nerfed 6 times and they still busted

[fickle forge]

I think rn every class' best comp is with a DH

Except rogue

Even double DH is high mmr viable

[lavish quest]

Don't think they working on/thinking about DF much atm

[fickle forge]

I'm seeing SoD balance patches every other day

They can't hire an intern to reduce some PvP numbers?

[wheat jay]

Its a minigame inside a minigame rn

[fickle forge]

Blizzard is a toxic relationship man

[grand scaffold]

bro

this bot is such a baby

[fickle forge]

They make you think they care by doing PvP changes for like a month, and then it's radio silence for another 6 months

[grand scaffold]

lead pvp designer is a mythic raider

😦

[fickle forge]

??

[grand scaffold]

exactly

[ruby condor]

yo i imported some week auras
but i dont think they work like i see wich abillityes it trakes i make my friend pop them but they dont show up

[bright kraken]

got a solo shuffle queue 10 min before maintenance

lmao

[bright kraken]

first game after reset

double resto sham, mm, surv, boomie

the only time i won was not when i went for the kill target, but the healer

._.

-57

im not sleeping for a bit huh

@fickle forge what should i do in matchups where the kill target is bad for me or hard to hit

or was i just playing objectively badly

i asked what i was doing wrong

they said it was comp

[fickle forge]

What were both comps?

[bright kraken]

@fickle forge

[fickle forge]

Chase MM and Boomy

Anyone can die in that lobby to you

Survival is pretty squishy too

This is one of the better lobbies

[bright kraken]

i tried and i couldnt touch them at all

aand yes i was hamstringing

couldnt kill them before i died

i know thaat i should have won that

idk why i couldnt

and the mm said it was a comp issue

[fickle forge]

Boomy definitely doesn't kite you, it's immobile af

MM is only an issue when he has freedom, which you should stun

That lobby is a potential 6-0 lobby for you

[bright kraken]

it should've been and instead it was a 2-4

the 2 wins i got because i went healer instead of the dps

is it because im just not swapping targets enough?

when should i be using my cc/swapping target anyhow

Hpriest sub UH surv MW

this a decent lobby?

actually what even is the priority order

for shuffle kill targes

[fickle forge]

1. Who can you get uptime on
2. Who can you stop the most damage on
3. Who's the squishiest

In that order

[bright kraken]

if i may ask

[bright kraken]

thanks!

[ruby condor]

whats my oppener as arms

[scarlet barn]

1. Whom
2. Whom

[fickle forge]

Hotel?

[scarlet barn]

Trivago

[harsh delta]

what's the name of the addon that tracks your previous lobby stats (specs, record, dmg, etc)?

[ruby condor]

[Charge][Hamstring][Overpower][Overpower][Thunder Clap][Mortal Strike][Overpower][Colossus Smash][Thunderous Roar][Overpower][Sharpen Blade][Avatar]
[Charge][Hamstring][Overpower][Mortal Strike][Thunder Clap][Overpower][Overpower][Colossus Smash][Thunderous Roar][Mortal Strike][Avatar][Sharpen Blade]

whats urs rotations

[fickle forge]

Is DH good right now? 🤔

[vast kindle]

If you save your piercing howl for disengage hunters become really ez to chase without wasting too many charges, hamstring alone isn't enough to shut them down from running from you

[violet fossil]

Not even close bb

[lean rampart]

Wow Arena Logs?

[lavish quest]

Reflex or something like that

[fickle forge]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in an arena. A Mugambala arena. A Mugambala arena with demon hunters. And demon hunters make me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in an arena. A Mugambala arena. A Mugambala arena with demon hunters. And demon hunters make me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in an arena. A Mugambala arena. A Mugambala arena with demon hunters. And demon hunters make me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in an arena. A Mugambala arena. A Mugambala arena with demon hunters. And demon hunters make me crazy.

[fallen estuary]

Mooooooodddsss

[merry valley]

DH dominating pvp for 2 months straight

and still going

and prolly no pvp tunning till pos awc reset

when was last time a class was king for this long?

[wheat jay]

Shadowlands

Arms warrior

Two seasons of being the best spec in pvp

Full two seasons

[lavish quest]

Doubt

[wheat jay]

S1 condemn/spear s2 banner/spear

[wheat jay]

Have you played shadowlands s1 and s2?

[lavish quest]

I played S1, but mostly PvE since I did cutting edge that tier (DPS war was shit in PvE S1)

Then I quit for the first time ever because SL was so god awful

[wheat jay]

Cuz warrior was the single best class both of these seasons

Ye nathria warr was rough xD

[lavish quest]

Cool, arms was top when wow was at its worst so no one wanted to play

Great

Lmao

[wheat jay]

Pvp participation was quite high in shadowlands

Especially s1

[lavish quest]

Talking about overall game

PvP went from 20 players to 40 players, so yes it was quite high for PvP

[wheat jay]

Tbh it was quite fun imo

[lavish quest]

[wheat jay]

If they made the covenant swap instant from the start it'd have been the best wow expansion

Everything except for covenant lock was solid

[lavish quest]

But didn't you have a bunch of cutting edge getting pvp carries for gear?

[wheat jay]

Ye cuz pvp gear gave gear as good as pve

[lavish quest]

Nah, dailies and mandatory torghast was also ass

[lavish quest]

So it was inflated a bit by design

[wheat jay]

Dailies weren't bad they're always there in some form

Torghast was ass

[lavish quest]

DF essentially has no dailies and its lovely

[wheat jay]

True

I like it too

Anyway, shadowlands pvp had fewer balance patches than df

Monk was broken for months

If not seasons

Oneshotting through one proc of spinning crane kick

[lavish quest]

Maybe blizz should make ladders like they were in SL to encourage more people to get in

[wheat jay]

And if they got more than one

You were toast

[lavish quest]

Might be too tight atm

[wheat jay]

They're doing good changes for next expansion

Removing pvp vault is 10/10 move

[merry valley]

mm 1 taping people from stealth in s1

[lavish quest]

100% agree

[merry valley]

and kyrian wall shooting was n1

[lavish quest]

I meant more like inflation wise

[merry valley]

most ass abilitie

[lavish quest]

No pvp vault next expac is hype

[wheat jay]

Ye you can just push pve and pvp simultaneously

Which is what I always do

Now I won't be forced to be behind in something

[lavish quest]

Same and I hate making the choice

[wheat jay]

Ye

[lavish quest]

Usually is me being behind in pve because pve easy lul

[wheat jay]

What else is there?

Ye same

But then again it's nice to get bis pve loot at the start

[lavish quest]

Referring to?

[wheat jay]

Pvp changes

I believe that's all

Everything else is pve changes

And overall game changes

[lavish quest]

In terms of announced stuff? Well yeah, but other things they should look into doing

[wheat jay]

I'd say fixing the micro-cc bullshit

20 small ccs that don't break on damage because fuck knows why

[mild thunder]

rated blitz

there’s so much they need to/could do to fix pvp, but unfortunately i think DF is the beginning of the end for arena

combine shuffle and 2s to make a 2v2 mode where you have the option to queue solo or duo. double dps only vs double dps and healer/dps only vs healer/dps to fix queue times
delete rbgs
improve reward breadcrumbing. add seasonal progression tokens for purchasing pre-MoP pvp rewards (elite sets, illusions, mounts etc.).

once you hit 1800, you start filling a progress bar like the current seasonal progression/vicious saddle mount. upon filling that bar you receive a token that will allow you to purchase any one elite set item for your class from pre-mop era.

once you hit 2100, the progress bar rewards an upgraded token that can be used to purchase elite set items or illusions.

once you hit 2400, filling the progress bar provides you a token to allow you to also purchase tabards and elite weapons.

once you hit 2800, filling the progress bar rewards a token that allows you to purchase a gladiator mount.

near-infinitely farmable cosmetic rewards that incentivise people to play and push, but with rewards from pre-modern era so people can fuck off about crying about them

also potentially add a soloQ mode to real 3v3 that allows you to verse pre-made teams

blizz here is my resume, hire me anytime, tyty

[plush elk]

I feel like this would just result in, typically, soloq people getting obliterated by most premades.

Rbgs don’t need to go, if anything they need more love. It’s a tiny community as is, they’re not hurting anyone (unless you can’t handle the flame lol)

I agree on the rewards though.

I, personally don’t hate the format of shuffle/bg blitz but I get it’s not for everyone and has had impacts on the organized side of pvp.

[fickle forge]

Lobby RNG 😴

[simple rock]

here is the worst lobby i've ever had

on tol'viron

felt like I was wielding a wet noodle the whole game

[mild thunder]

don’t care

shuffle is a degenerate game mode no good player gives a fuck about anyway

this way it would at least not fuck over 2s/3s players by existing

and would super solve queue times

blitz will be significantly better than rbgs. it’s just more interesting with better, cooler mechanics and stuff to level out one sided games

[fickle forge]

I am so done with this game man

Double DH lobby

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/diagnosis-skill-issue-diagnosis-skill-issue-draker-discord-gif-22231351

[bright kraken]

queue into solo shuffle
game is clearly a healer 0-6
healer leaves before you get wins that would make you go up or stay neutral

[plucky night]

Do we ever hit slam?

[fickle forge]

'Why yes I have high uptime vs locks '

[fickle forge]

No

[spice hornet]

We still a C tier version WAL-MART DH?

20 McNuggies and 2 large fries for $9

Can’t be beat

[fallen estuary]

20 Mc-ccs and 2 large ass whoopings for 70 rating (spoiler you lose that rating lmaoooooo)

[bright kraken]

we are in very dire straights

is this BS or not BS

[fallen estuary]

Both lmao

[bright kraken]

elaborate

[fallen estuary]

Well armor nerfs make you vuln to mm now and with evoker they can 1tap you and your entire team. Or microwave you with 5g beams to yo brain. Unless they screwed up every round and let you just beat on em it would be a easy match for you but everyones a tryhard

[bright kraken]

So I've reached a point in solo shuffle where it feels like a gamble again

So I must be doing stuff wrong yeah?

[plucky night]

I went from 2230 to 1940 to back to 2100 in a day on my arms

rough days

[bright kraken]

hug

[willow nymph]

Blitz is lit

[bright kraken]

Why are arms best and worst matchups?

What* but I would love to hear the why too

[mild thunder]

<@&257983573498265600> nuke this man

[bright kraken]

How do you even play in bad lobvies

Do you just, sit back half the game?

Attack the healer?

[bright kraken]

._.

broski

you know fuck this shit im memorisng the periodic table between queues

[plucky night]

3-3 in a lobby with arcane mage, demo lock and devastation, i'll have that as a win

[spice hornet]

What was it

[mild thunder]

some pyramid scheme shit

[spice hornet]

Is cassetto okay

[mild thunder]

always

[bright kraken]

once again the leave before you get a chance to win enough games to go up in rating

1.8k range is hard to push because it feels unstable as fuck

now its getting hard to push because you dont even get to play the game to have a chance to push lmao

[bright kraken]

that sounds ucky as fucky

[little lava]

2440->2200->2500 on one day 4 weeks ago

[bright kraken]

how

please teach me

;-;

[digital hornet]

I’m newish to warrior and I’m having some issues in PvP. I’m having some big issues with my damage output and wanted to see if I could get some pointers

I’ve got 4 gladiator pieces, gladiator 2h and the rest honor gear

[bright kraken]

solo takes 50 min to put me in, then someone leaves before first round

solo shuffle pov

[digital hornet]

Does the set bonus make such a huge difference to damage?
With the PvP gear my versatility is at 44%. Is this too high?

[grand scaffold]

way too high

you want only 30%

and the set bonus makes a massive diff

[wheat jay]

Why would he want less

That's 7% more damage reduction

And then y'all complain you get oneshot..

[lavish quest]

Because we need dam too ya dummy

[bright kraken]

if you aren't on the top of damage done and taken, why even?

[grand scaffold]

dude

not one class in wow

should need 44% vers to not get 1 shotted

[wheat jay]

vers is damage

[grand scaffold]

yeah

low dmg

its remarkably hard to stack that stat compared to mastery

or haste

especially past 30% let alone 40%

[wheat jay]

you don't scale with mastery hard enough for it to outweigh vers thats both defensive and offensive

[lavish quest]

Less damage

[wheat jay]

you're not oneshotting as warr anyway

xD

[grand scaffold]

bro has not played into rogue mage

or ret ww

or dh ww

or dk ww

[lavish quest]

Damage reduction doesn't give dopamine. Big damage numba does

[grand scaffold]

^

[wheat jay]

not you as a warr, no

others oneshot for you xD

[grand scaffold]

😂

[lavish quest]

How about we just stop letting half the specs be better warriors? 🤔

[grand scaffold]

yeah

warrior is like low A now

[wheat jay]

meaning its fine

[lavish quest]

Feeling generous are we?

[wheat jay]

4 warrs in top 100 in 3s eu

4 in na

and that's like 2800-2900 cr

[lavish quest]

War always has an inflated representation even when its down because Chads stick with is

[wheat jay]

warr 100% viable

[lavish quest]

[wheat jay]

no, people at the high end play what's best

merce is among those top

and merce is a lock main now

and he played lock in awc

[lavish quest]

Lock op

[wheat jay]

if it wasnt good he wouldn't even touch it

and yet hes still top eu warr

warr is still in a good spot

with a lot of good comps

[lavish quest]

Which is higher of his?

[wheat jay]

including arguably best comp in the game

[lavish quest]

Which is?

[wheat jay]

doesnt matter, he didnt roll warr in awc XD

but if you're so curious

lock

oh look

[lavish quest]

Bam, there it is

[wheat jay]

a rogue main is there

on warr

in the top of the top

anyway, warr is not s tier only because dh is doing more dmg

[lavish quest]

Yet no one plays it when they're trying to win...

🤔

[wheat jay]

there were quite a few dh/warr comps in awc

dh/lock was just better suited for awc environmnet

[lavish quest]

The stronger classes are more suited than the weaker ones

Shocked

[wheat jay]

either way

point still stands

warr is one of the best classes

but you're not oneshotting people

you do consistent dmg with decent burst

and you are a sharpen blade bot most of the time

niche of arms warr is disrupting enemy goes

disarm, intervene, banner etc

[grand scaffold]

tbh bro

destro is op

demo is good

aff is sometimes a bully spec

if destro had to actually cast itd be cool

[lavish quest]

Lame

[grand scaffold]

warr isnt exactly advanced calculus

[lavish quest]

It's engineering

[wheat jay]

reality

[fickle forge]

Trash lobby

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/905959827891712050/1208587930961059921/image.png?ex=65e3d439&is=65d15f39&hm=191110bc14499a70e248d027f478caf7953ad17b1b92a8c4c3277082b26becb8&

[grand scaffold]

i mean