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mild thunder
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fueled by violence gains value into stuff like demo lock or bm with lots of pet cleave

bright kraken
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oooo so just anything with pet damage

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not on UH though, I'd assume?

mild thunder
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anything with lots of pets/targets where you'll be applying deep wounds to tons of enemies. demo, uhdk, bm, even enh. also fine into melee cleaves, esp. with a fistweaver

bright kraken
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also when should i start doing pvp on alts for mogs? Mostly just been playing war to push for 2.1k and 2.4k because im delusional

mild thunder
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whenever you feel like it

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alts are fun and a nice break, but the reality is time spent not playing your main class is time spent not improving

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(for the most part)

bright kraken
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fair

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im just scared that im not gonna have enough time to get mogs for classes i want them on

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cries in S1

bright kraken
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WOO STARTING THE NIGHT STRONG

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only down from here ;-;

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really happy and proud though

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DH was losing every game

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i got last round with them, told them to go ret paladin and not lock since last time we went lock they just ported away and we couldnt hit them

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got the dub

bright kraken
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i was not kill target any game except the last

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i used all my rallies and intervene's for my team mate

lethal badger
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damn you got unlucky these rounds

mild thunder
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no such thing. there's always room for improvement

bright kraken
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was it just the DK?

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im actually seething idk what i did wrong and i wasnt fucking recording

bright kraken
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just so i can measure how shit i am

grand scaffold
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any

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depends on matchups and what not

fickle forge
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Unless it's a hybrid lobby, then it's even

bright kraken
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i was never the kill target and they went 5-1

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idk

fickle forge
bright kraken
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im not trying to blame it solely on them because i know it must have been at least partly me but going ret instead of lock saved another game of me

lavish quest
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Oh is it? Idk, I never bothered to learn what they are. I just some rotational thing not tied to buffs

mild thunder
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hmm ye apparently it is

lavish quest
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What I thought. But tbh, my brain hardly registers its on the screen when I play fury

grand scaffold
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their brains hardly register

lavish quest
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Dam, the disrespect to the pve bois

grand scaffold
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😂

lavish quest
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We're all bots now

grand scaffold
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nah only shamans

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😂

untold fjord
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Came back to WoW this month after missing whole DL and ele keep kiting me to oblivion
Completely lost about how to stick to them

night pumice
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Fuck 'em dhs and rdruids we zugging

fickle forge
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Looks more like a shadow priest hell than anything

night pumice
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ss is almost always hell for them I feel

fickle forge
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In a full cleave lobby yeah

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SP+DH is his only saving grace

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Or if rogue's outlaw

night pumice
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Was assa so no dice

fickle forge
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Should honestly be assassa losing that lobby ngl

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Oh wait this is fury warrior

night pumice
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Yea, don't play arms

fickle forge
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Poor SP man

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Lost a comp option there

mild thunder
grand scaffold
fickle forge
mild thunder
fickle forge
mild thunder
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destro still casts a decent bit

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feral also a true caster ngl

fickle forge
bright kraken
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is it normal that my worst matchups are ranged?

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Devoker, Frost Mage in particular

fickle forge
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Devoker is a menace

bright kraken
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sub and outlaw sometimes

fickle forge
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Sub is free

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Free 4+ wins lobby if sub is in it

bright kraken
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assuming the arms is you

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which, i sadly am not you </3

mild thunder
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arms does insanely well into most rogues

bright kraken
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like i have an easy time killing rogues

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the issue is the cc and damage for me sometimes, especially depending on their teammate

fickle forge
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Arms has like 20 ways to stop a sub setup

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It's all about utility

bright kraken
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and im a survival hunter main so please enlighten me :3

fickle forge
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if you're vs sub, go War Banner, Disarm and Safeguard

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Pre-use stuff when the stun DRs are off your team

bright kraken
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how do i track DR?

fickle forge
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There's probably a WeakAura out there that does it

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I use some addon I can't remember the name of on sitting foot

mild thunder
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you do 1/10th as much as a sv for 10x more impact

bright kraken
mild thunder
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they're not similar at all lol

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sv is a squishy, semi-ranged spec that relies on high cc and careful engagements
arms is an uber tanky W key zugzug spec that relies on high uptime and team utility

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no spec is really that similar to sv, except mayyyyyyybe outlaw???... both are semi-ranged with more consistent dmg than burst and high cc

fickle forge
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@wheat jay found his better half

mild thunder
fickle forge
mild thunder
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feral is just

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a mess rn

mild thunder
fickle forge
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Some people still make it work by Q'ing a hybrid comp

mild thunder
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im just waiting for qfiend to get sick of SoD so we can queue flx already

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you just have to run a lot as feral, but it can work

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it's just not like any other spec in the game lol. goofy ahh cat with big borst, dies in 1 hit and has to spam cast cyclone for damage kekw

fickle forge
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It's a mess yeah

mild thunder
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360k bites do go hard tho wicked

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with 150k feral frenzy ticks

fickle forge
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Feral would easily be hard meta if it got the slightest durability buff

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WW+feral zoom

mild thunder
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incarn is also the single most fun burst CD in the game, no cap

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i feel terrifying when i pop it

wheat jay
fickle forge
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I'd pick up feral again if they nuke the Clone spam style

fickle forge
mild thunder
fickle forge
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Gala doesn't mind sharing the alpha survival main

wheat jay
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kargish is the true kfc enjoyer

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you're jungle

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it couldn't work

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its not my fault, its yours

mild thunder
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ive only ever played jungle when it was B tier or worse, so im off the hook

wheat jay
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cant confirm that

fickle forge
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Game is usually in a decent state if jungle is good

wheat jay
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we can confirm that kfc is always bad tho

mild thunder
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so true

fickle forge
mild thunder
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but sv jungle was legit ass last season

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this ssn too

fickle forge
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Jungle honestly probably better with Rsham rn

mild thunder
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probs, but sv doesnt pull enough attention for the feral to not get trained and die

fickle forge
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Ye, it falls over

wheat jay
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good survi doesnt die too hard xd

mild thunder
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and i dont think mm relaly does enough rn to slot in either

fickle forge
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Nah, you'd train feral anyway

mild thunder
wheat jay
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ye thats why noone goes survi now xD

fickle forge
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Artji Q'd a shuffle yesterday and didn't use MS pet for the first 4 rounds

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Smh

mild thunder
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sounds about right

wheat jay
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kargish still said im good survi

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EZ

mild thunder
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i do miss sv tho ngl

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hopefully get some jungle queues next week maybe

fickle forge
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Q KFC with @bright kraken

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Izi

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Become the NA equivalent to Artji and I

mild thunder
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kfc would be 😴 rn ngl

fickle forge
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Smh

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KFC is mad fun

wheat jay
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they need their James tho

mild thunder
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jungle is squishy, but it's got more dmg and is faster

fickle forge
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If you just want fast, then play surv+WW

wheat jay
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doubt about the dmg lol

mild thunder
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feral dmg is kinda cracked, when they can get it off

wheat jay
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which is never

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cuz they're perma dead

mild thunder
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my feral makes it work wicked

fickle forge
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Aug+feral is seeing some play atm

mild thunder
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nah fuck that

wheat jay
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xd

mild thunder
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no cap tho, last season i stg aug/feral was the most underrated and broken comp in all of DF

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it had everything

fickle forge
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It was played a lot on EU

mild thunder
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i'd rather verse 10.0.7 double ret than 10.1.7 aug/feral

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@sharp meteor is a pet murderer

wheat jay
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cuz na is always behind the meta lol

fickle forge
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And ye it was unbeatable

mild thunder
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if i didnt have 150ms, i'd be r1 xeos

wheat jay
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so

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my ms?

fickle forge
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PoV: Artji refusing to upgrade his internet

wheat jay
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ye

fickle forge
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'I'll switch to my phone's internet guys 🤓'

wheat jay
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didnt work keks

fickle forge
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The most cooked thing I've witnessed yet

wheat jay
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it is what it is

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haha

fickle forge
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Could make a starter pack meme out of you

bright kraken
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just as i push out over 1.8k, i get pushed back down -x-

fickle forge
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Should prob upload that VOD

bright kraken
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im doing it

fickle forge
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Might just be lacking better rotation

lavish quest
grand scaffold
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most people said it was overpower as shit

bright kraken
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im kinda sad about tonight

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thought i'd actually push

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now im 4 points lower than i started

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tfw this is your greatest achievement of the night

wheat jay
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survi chad

bright kraken
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I wanted to push

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;-;

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Got to do larodar prog though ig

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Aspect of the Eagle is unironically a godsend

fickle forge
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I wish Artji would press it smh

bright kraken
fickle forge
wet pollen
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Is 27% haste / 35% mast / 35% vers a good mix of stats?

grand scaffold
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dw about it

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in s1

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i used to gain or lose 250 per day

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😂

bright kraken
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It's minor but I'm still upset

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I had 1840 at one point

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So I'm 60 down from my highest ever

grand scaffold
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its fine

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whats your stats looking like in pvp

bright kraken
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BUT I WANNA HIT 2.4K IM NOT GONNA BUT IM FEEL SADGE ;-;

grand scaffold
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what are your stats tho

bright kraken
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Idk lemme grab my seramate

grand scaffold
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drop 5% movement speed

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and get the fear talent

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vers looks a bit high ide drop it so that it hits 30% in pvp

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probably get more haste

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wanna be getting 30% in pvp

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you only have 1 embellishment

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probably want blue silken lining

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also running 5 set if you have helmet already i wouldnt run shoulders

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defo want a crafted ring with like haste mastery on it

bright kraken
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Are the gear things mandatory?

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I never bothered since it's just an alt and I didn't want to have to deal with thst

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But if I must

grand scaffold
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im gonna try a bs build with 20% crit and dropping mastery

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just to see how it affects my dmg

fickle forge
grand scaffold
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in your opinion

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is dropping like 15% to 20% mastery worth getting 20% crit

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ide have like 30% mastery 30% haste 30% crit

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kinda think itd be a good idea but idk

fickle forge
grand scaffold
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30% of things critting tho

fickle forge
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There's probably a breakpoint where crit starts to take over cause of the extra crit dmg from talents

grand scaffold
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yah

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like 30% i was thinking

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burst would go hard

fickle forge
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I don't think it's worth tbh

grand scaffold
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ok

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ill test it but ill keep that in mind

fickle forge
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Next season might be different

grand scaffold
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i think so too

grand scaffold
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the only benefit is chunkier dmg

fickle forge
grand scaffold
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ik

fickle forge
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21% dps loss is beyond insane

grand scaffold
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yeah

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doesnt make sense to me

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but my chinese friend did it

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so it must be right

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ima do it myself

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sec

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i got -7%

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its probably worth it

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more bursty dmg

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actually mb i forgot a factor

mild thunder
grand scaffold
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thats the thing

grand scaffold
mild thunder
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there's legit no reason to stop your mastery at 30%

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to chase after crit, a shit stat that gives you nothing you want

grand scaffold
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bro im not saying itll be good

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i will test it and say

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but 5% dmg loss

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for more crits seems ok

mild thunder
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5% doesnt sound correct either

grand scaffold
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i can show you my math

mild thunder
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sure

grand scaffold
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alr lemme finish game #1

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i might be missing a factor but it seems ok

mild thunder
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but uhh, yea even if that is correct

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intentionally nerfing your damage by 5% is extremely bad lol

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arms is not a burst spec. you're not 100-0'ing anyone

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except a feral

grand scaffold
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this is game #1

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it felt juicy

grand scaffold
grand scaffold
grand scaffold
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game 2

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game 3

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they kited more

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feels ok

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into non dh its good

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otherwise mastery better

lavish quest
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Coulda probably figured that one without testing. Example.
30% mastery = 30% more dmg pretty much.
30% crit = 30% chance to do additional 50% = averages out to 15% more dmg

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So unless the % per point is different. There it is.

grand scaffold
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i mean i figured out the dmg would be lower

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i just wanted to see how burst windows would look

merry valley
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microsoft for sure fired the pvp team

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queued into double dh + destro, followed by triple dh

silver prairie
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got a gear question if someones free to answer: should I prio saving for conquest wep over this wep, or get 2 conq off pieces (cloak/bracers) which also frees up an embellishment slot for a 2nd infurious piece. overall it'd be like 62 ilvls vs the wep

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i imagine the wep is huge but i've just started gearing so everything is kinda big, im 470 pvp ilvl rn

lavish quest
boreal stone
lavish quest
silver prairie
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sick thanks guys ill save for the wep first then

boreal stone
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If you’re 470, you can prob just get honor gear for some minor upgrades as well btw

silver prairie
silver prairie
grand scaffold
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they just fired every other class

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😂

elfin surge
fickle forge
merry valley
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3-3 with double dh lock

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1-5 with triple dh

plucky pasture
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hey good afternoon, I started playing again today, I'm not sure which class is best for pvp, arms or fury, I'm 100% pvp

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Can anyone give me a tip?

lavish quest
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Arms

plucky pasture
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thanks men

thick reef
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Just hit the funny Bodyguard button

plucky pasture
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thanks men

grand scaffold
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always mongo the healer

fickle forge
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Have you tried winning instead?

bright kraken
boreal stone
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going from rival 1 to elite is a pretty sizeable jump my friend

bright kraken
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but red swordge

fickle forge
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Just look at @wheat jay

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He went from rival to glad in a season 😎👍

bright kraken
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I need this for my hunter mog aight

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Unironically only reason I'm playing wa

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War

fickle forge
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Why aren't you playing hunter then

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Can't they use swords?

bright kraken
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Less weapons

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And I main PVE surv

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I'm a raider

wheat jay
bright kraken
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Then again none of those classes are hard

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And 1.6k isn't even hard either

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I definitely would've hit 1.8k on monk if i had enough time

bright kraken
fickle forge
lavish quest
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Get your PHD

fickle forge
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I haven't Q'd all that much shuffle this season, and 2400 mmr is not really that pressuring when you just do damage and use utility right

tardy dock
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Watch magnusz to learn talents

vast kindle
# bright kraken How much theoretically would I need to learn

Hmu next time I'm on bnet if you want to practice in game or need some help with talents/embellishments, didn't realize you were working towards this goal hehe. I don't claim to be anywhere near the best in the world but I started off maining pvp over pve on arms and I know a lot of shtuff to look out for :>

bright kraken
lavish quest
merry valley
lavish quest
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Intervene

fickle forge
merry valley
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yh why make healer heal himself when i can make him heal himself and me right?

wheat jay
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man's got that discord mod stereotype going for him

bright kraken
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Haha

fickle forge
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Yah I can tell

lavish quest
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uwu

wheat jay
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xd

lavish quest
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Warrior trying to hit a mage right there

bright kraken
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Bro what am I supposed to do against evoker and frost mage

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Pres and fire and arcane I can clap EZ

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Frost mage at that rate I just go the healer so I can at least do damage

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;-;

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and yes I do mount onto them

lavish quest
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If you want the technical term

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"Lose"

tardy dock
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rate my action bar

vast kindle
bright kraken
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Is it just me poorly optimising charge

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Its that isn't it

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LoS?

vast kindle
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LoS a lot and never open with charge because you are immediately at a disadvantage, ye

fickle forge
fickle forge
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If you have a pala or sham on your team it's a lot easier

bright kraken
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Haha

fickle forge
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Yah deva is just trash design like that

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Unslowable during Hover

bright kraken
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I did a shuffle with one and they used the self cyclone thing

fickle forge
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Unkickable when they have their 800 min duration wall on

bright kraken
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My dh teammate still kept bursting on them lmao

fickle forge
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Yeah stasis is pretty ass

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Debuffs aren't ticking so you can just resume afterwards

vast kindle
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Evokers, you want to LoS whenever they cast hover and never let them get you in a scenario where they can feather hover+disintigrate on you. They can do it just so in a way that you can't charge at them, but also can't melee them, and if nullifying shroud is up you are just super screwed

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You wanna stay near a pillar and never let them bait you too far away when leap is on CD

vast kindle
lavish quest
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For frost mage, depends on what their other partners are.
But frost mage can be killed, just have to be patient. Like if they use alter time, don't use your mobility to chase. It sucks, but let the timer bring em back. Don't use your mobility unless they use one of theirs. Be on top of your slow game. Stuff like that

vast kindle
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^ Yeah 100% this. It's a waiting game, can be annoying sometimes

fickle forge
bright kraken
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What matchups do we take shatter?

fickle forge
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Pala and mage

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Unless you wanna train a lock, then Wrecking is prio

bright kraken
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Which ice block do we shatter for frost mage?

fickle forge
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Whichever

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If you can keep up pressure then do it

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If they get topped and have some defensive on them then w/e

vast kindle
# fickle forge This is bait advice, if you're gonna LoS every Hover then you'll never play the ...

Yeah reading back I didn't use the best wording, you don't want to LoS literally every hover or thats just wasting time. You just want to be ready to LoS if they do get you into the scenario I described, and also try not to chase them too hard and waste too many escape options beforehand, or let them get you in a position on the map where those escape options become less than useful and they can stunlock burst

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Real similar to playing into frost mage but also with its own twists

silver prairie
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anyone use bt4? wondering how i can modify my action bar based on what stance im in, similar to how bt4 works in classic wow

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i'd like to have shield block appear on a certain key when im in dstance sword and board and have a different ability on that key when im in battle stance w/ 2h

mild thunder
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you shouldnt be using a shield in dstance

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and there's no button you wanna remove while in dstance

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just use an extra bind with a /equip sword+shield macro

sharp meteor
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Maybe it'd be okay into double physical team? 😅 Like, with shield block. Probably not, but maybe.

fickle forge
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It's actually pretty viable in some nich situations

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But nobody bothers to really

mild thunder
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you dont wanna tie it to dstance tho

fickle forge
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Arms is already invincible vs most specs

sharp meteor
mild thunder
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arms is almost as tanky as feral druid (literally immortal)

silver prairie
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oh interesting didnt know it wasnt that good

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im used to doing it all the time in wotlk arena i figure it was decent here too but ill keep swanging the 2h then 🫡

fickle forge
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Nah there's no reason to really

mild thunder
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classic is for nerds like @elfin surge

silver prairie
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i started wow in classic lol, been playing it since then but wotlk is super dead rn and sod is meh so im trying out retail

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been having a lot of fun its just fucking overwhelming

mild thunder
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retail is the best version of wow

lavish quest
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He says that because SV is OP here

tardy dock
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is there a weakaura

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thar colors ur execute depending on ur rage?

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so like Sudden Death proc = green execute

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between 30 and 35% hp with Fatality and <35 rage = red execute (red aka don't cast)

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between 30 and 35% hp with Fatality and >35 rage = orange execute

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below 30% hp with >35 rage = yellow execute
below 30% hp with <35 rage = blue execute

tardy dock
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i think this will save a lot of time cuz u dont have to look at ur rage bar

vast kindle
# sharp meteor Maybe it'd be okay into double physical team? 😅 Like, with shield block. Probab...

It was semi viable in a niche for like a couple weeks in season 1, only because dh was absolutely cracked at damage and dual melee was being played a lot more, not to mention people would make arms a kill target before ignore pain got restored into the talents. I have fond memories of pulling out the sword and shield and dumpstering some peeps by saving my burst for after I recovered from theirs with a silly shield block+kiting.

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I don't really think there is much of a place for it now tho, the crit nerfs alone took away a good chunk of your ability to kill in burst without swapping back to 2H (not to mention getting good dps took some goofy talent choices) , and dual melee cleave comps aren't being spammed as much.

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You were basically acting as bait, and nowadays nobody is dumb enough to try and make an arms a kill target unless they screwed up somehow.

tardy dock
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guys help

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how do i play vs resto druid in 2v2

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he just spams cyclone nonstop on me and my healer

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it's like 1v2 constantly

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either me or healer are nonstop cycloned

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unless my healer is resto druid too to spam his own cyclones, feels impossible to win

silver prairie
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just win before druid can cyclone ez

tardy dock
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i just lost 4 games in a row

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vs resto druid

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the cyclone spam is just too op

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what am i supposed to do?

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or am i supposed to never queue 2v2 again unless i'm playing with a resto druid

simple rock
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pressure the druid

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you have reflect, 2x bladestorm, stormbolt, shockwave

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if he's playing with a DH just wait for next xpac though because GAPPED

tardy dock
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well he cyclones my healer

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and then im 1v2

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it really feels like u either play with resto druid or disc priest or u can suck a fat one in 2v2

simple rock
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he shouldn't be able to clone your druid for free ever

tardy dock
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very balanced spec yes

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cyclone should at least take 5% of mana

simple rock
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either they cross cc or you messed up

tardy dock
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well no but he can cyclone 3 times in a row

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for 10.5 secs

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and only 22.5 secs of DR

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so basically nearly 50% uptime

violet fossil
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vagina

simple rock
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ok

tardy dock
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and then when 1 person is on DR

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he just does it to the other

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its so fucking stupid

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so i should save pummel avatar bladestorm reflect storm bolt and shockwave

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for when he cast cyclone?

simple rock
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u hit him with your big dmg

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then he can't clone

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unless they stun your healer and you

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clone is not even the issue in 2s it's their insane mana and meld drink

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with DH being fucking insane

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or outlaw

tardy dock
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what's meld drink?

simple rock
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shadowmeld drink

tardy dock
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maybe i need to be pickier for healers

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and only play with resto druid / disc priest

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then at least i know if i lost, its prob cuz of me and not cuz of healer spec gap

simple rock
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disc warr is bad in 2s

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but with druid he should never get cloned unless they commit cc basically

tardy dock
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i played with a friend who was 1900 on disc

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and he carried me from like 980 to 1550

tardy dock
simple rock
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disc ooms and has low throughput

tardy dock
#

he was playing dmg build

simple rock
#

they just lose after cds

tardy dock
#

he was doing like 40% of my dmg

#

ok then so i just gotta play with only druids from now on

#

cuz blizz dont care to balance about 2v2

#

they barely balance for pvp at all

#

i heard u dont even get a title if u play 2v2

#

it's like they are laughing at us 2v2 players

#

grind all season to get top rank

#

and then get nothing

#

and i pay 13 for this

#

every damn month

#

what a joke

simple rock
#

2v2 is a dogshit gamemode i'm sorry to sayt

#

put your stock in 3v3

violet fossil
#

2s is basically to get into 3s

#

but now it’s balanced around solo

tardy dock
#

i only play 2v2

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cuz there is no 1v1

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cuz i am not a weakling

#

i am a WARRIOR

#

i don't need a healer to babysit me

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but there is no Rated 1v1

#

so for this reason i am forced to play 2v2

#

I can fight by myself like a man

violet fossil
#

whale warriors need a healer

tardy dock
#

what's a whale warrior?

#

u mean kultirans?

fickle forge
scarlet barn
#

or faster

wet pollen
#

Anyone tried arms with a fistweaver in 2s?

tardy dock
#

i tried with preservation evoker

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he's really good at harassing the enemy healer

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by slowing him down and then the dragon move that jumps and leaves like a trail

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huge assistance when im on the enemy healer

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but he's not great at not getting himself killed especially when its like a havoc dh or a windwalker monk cuz they have so much mobility

bright kraken
#

aight i got above 1.8k in solo again place your bets on how fast i'll lose it

bright kraken
#

impossibl

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although tbf i push pvp listening to shreksophone maybe theres a chance

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i really just went from larodar prog to solo shuffle the fuck am i

wheat jay
#

A complete player

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Pve > pvp tho

elfin surge
wheat jay
#

Full game > minigame

lavish quest
#

Will say, pve a shit ton easier

wheat jay
#

Where is your pvp legendary

lavish quest
#

Mythic boss ain't got shit on a mage

wheat jay
#

Nowhere

elfin surge
wheat jay
#

It's not me It's the devs

lavish quest
#

MUD doesn't even play the minigame

elfin surge
#

wot

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im coming back

lavish quest
#

We hear that every month

wheat jay
#

Still waiting for mud getting r1 playing KFC

lavish quest
#

Still waiting for artji to not fotm

elfin surge
#

Still waiting for artji to become a man and stop playing beta hunter

lavish quest
#

Tru

elfin surge
#

@wheat jay go to trueshot lodge hunter cord and share how much you love animals

wheat jay
elfin surge
wheat jay
#

Pogu

lavish quest
#

Hunter main doesn't go to hunter discord

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Trolls warrior's instead

elfin surge
#

@wheat jay would you still consider yourself a battle pet main?

wheat jay
#

If we consider kargish my mortal wounds pet in arena then ye i guess

elfin surge
#

@fickle forge

fickle forge
tardy dock
wheat jay
#

Kinda

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Its stray

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But mostly ours now haha

wheat jay
tardy dock
#

post more pics

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i wanna see more

fickle forge
bright kraken
#

oh shit

elfin surge
#

man i havent even started the shuffle grind yet

fickle forge
#

You also probably won't

elfin surge
wheat jay
#

Youre my favourite pet

elfin surge
#

quit yappin @wheat jay

bright kraken
#

@fickle forge are you proud of me

fickle forge
#

Continue the climb 😎 👍

wheat jay
wheat jay
onyx marlin
#

a ret telling me arms have more tools to peel teammates than pld keks

wheat jay
#

Arms is THE peel spec

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You got the most tools to save your teammate save for healers

night pumice
#

Any high rated player could explain how to handle devo in shuffle? From fury pov on 2.2cr they feel so sketchy to deal with as they infinikite and have insane burst dmg that I'm unsure how to shut down but I'm a scrub so would appreciate any input.

bright kraken
#

now i can go sleebies

lavish quest
#

I still hate shuffle

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lol

lavish quest
bright kraken
lavish quest
#

That's how many games it will take me to get 2400

wheat jay
lavish quest
#

I haven't played a ton yet, but this season feels brutal

lavish quest
#

I managed it last season, not sure if I will this one. We'll see

elfin surge
#

zolo shuff 💀

lavish quest
#

Yeah... but 3s partners hit a wall and then ghost sooooo

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She's all I got

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It is awful

elfin surge
#

I dread the end of ssn where im going to force myself to q it

lavish quest
#

At least you clean house when you do

#

I'm out here suckin

elfin surge
#

KAP

lavish quest
#

Nah, we strugglin

#

😂

elfin surge
#

higher than me

lavish quest
#

Kinda wild that I hit 2150 in solos by week 3, and now I'm just sittin 2k for some reason despite "inflation"

#

Need to let Biden loose on these ladders

bright kraken
lavish quest
#

lmao, I rarely do 2s

elfin surge
bright kraken
#

I'm actually the best arms warrior in the world now I see

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This is factual evidence

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(I'm shit)

elfin surge
#

wow the ego

lavish quest
#

Taking a branding iron to my testicles is actually more enjoyable than 2s on a warrior

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#funfact

elfin surge
#

skill issue

bright kraken
#

I have an easier time in 2s than 3s tbh

#

Then again more simple and I'm a dumbass so

lavish quest
#

Though last season I was like 2250 in 2s, got into like the top 20 of warriors

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I must have been enjoying the pain

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And it was as fury keks

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My slavemaster MW didn't want me on arms sadge

#

Speaking of pain, another shuffle

bright kraken
#

@lavish quest you have any words to part with

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Of afvice

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Or tips idk I don't wanna bug karg

elfin surge
#

why hes eu swine

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@fickle forge

lavish quest
#

I'm NA you idiot

elfin surge
#

@fickle forge

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karg is eu

bright kraken
#

Holy shit you're europium

#

That sounds cool as shit karg

elfin surge
#

Oinker Karg

fickle forge
#

😎👍

elfin surge
#

Devo perma freedom spec

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annoying little rats

fickle forge
#

Deva is a rat spec

elfin surge
#

reminds me of an ele

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just annoying to attack

tardy dock
#

what is the chance that my 1st time ever playing warrior is also the season with the best mog

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im looking at past seasons mogs and they all look terrible

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although maybe that's because i'm a gnome

#

everything looks silly on a gnome

fickle forge
#

Yeah you forfeited all rights to talk about aesthetics when you rolled gnome

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Same with vulpera mains like @bright kraken

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Smh

bright kraken
#

Gimme a sec

lavish quest
#

I still hate shuffle

#

And I think he's saying you're a furry like @sharp meteor

elfin surge
#

literal furry main

lavish quest
#

That's just the worgen in its human form, still technically furry

elfin surge
#

o god it is

fickle forge
#

It's human

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Aka not furry

#

@mild thunder I've made a new surv hunter alt

wheat jay
#

smh

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WHERE PANDA!?

#

or tauren

lavish quest
lavish quest
#

But I can big brain it

#

Also, those are the druid tier shoulders

#

Humans can't be humans

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Sooo

fickle forge
#

Nah I call cap

#

Could have been WoWhead model viewer

#

You don't know

wheat jay
lavish quest
#

Ya'll OD'ing thinking a furry is playing a non furry

wheat jay
#

not 100% sure

lavish quest
wheat jay
#

lol true

lavish quest
#

3 caster 2 hpal

#

Fuck me

fickle forge
#

Do you have a non-furry character?

wheat jay
#

tauren is kinda fine

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cuz it has hooves

#

do you at least have a tauren

#

i could let panda slide too

#

cuz its funny as fuckl

elfin surge
#

orc is the only acceptable race for warrior.

wheat jay
#

belf

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👍

elfin surge
#

no

lavish quest
#

3-3 because a round was thrown :/

#

At least not negative I guess

tardy dock
#

every single arms warrior in pvp is a gnome

#

it just that much better than everything else

#

basically u have to be gnome if u wanna be competitive as a warrior in pvp

#

on a side note

#

why is food so fucking bad this expansion

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restore 200k hp over 20 secs

#

thats only 1% of my max hp per sec

#

so i need like nearly 2 mins of eating after a duel

#

why cant they make it restore 500k hp over 20 sec or smth

rapid shore
#

or just restore specific percentage

tardy dock
#

yeah

rapid shore
#

no need for static number and its always gucci :)

tardy dock
#

u'd think this is the food for level 60s who are levelling

#

not max level chars

#

that have 5 times as much HP as the food restores for the WHOLE 20 sec period

fickle forge
#

Real Chad arms warrs are orc, tauren or human

tardy dock
#

orc is pretty good

#

if u wanna counter rogues

#

makes a gap in their cc chain

#

but sub got heavy nerfs

#

and disarm fucks em up badly

#

since it's up every time they shadow blades

#

outlaw doesnt have as much burst dmg

#

but can still deal quite a lot if they get lucky procs on the combo restore

#

so yeah not very useful

fickle forge
#

Orc is best in general

#

Free badge

#

Big dam

tardy dock
#

wait u cant use potions during a duel?

wheat jay
#

consumables are off

tardy dock
#

yeah i noticed

#

so when pala pop 8 sec immune

#

u just sit there and do nothing while he kills u

#

or u run away and the duel is cancelled cuz range

#

pretty stupid

violet fossil
tardy dock
#

wait

#

i didnt know it removes magic immunities

#

thats smart as fuck actually

#

i saw magnusz use it vs warlocks

#

to remove their shield

lavish quest
#

That's prob wrecking throw

tardy dock
#

yes

#

it is

#

do u got any tips

#

on winning vs dh?

violet fossil
tardy dock
#

i dueled a dh 3 times in a row

#

and lost all 3

violet fossil
#

ur gonna lose that one

#

no matter what

tardy dock
#

i do big burst i take away 60% of his hp

violet fossil
#

could go into fury

tardy dock
#

but then his leech outdamages me

violet fossil
#

for duels

#

cause u burst into a defensive

tardy dock
#

so fury can beat him in 1v1?

violet fossil
#

prolly not

#

but you stand a better chance

tardy dock
#

i mean in the arena

#

theres dampening to reduce his leech

#

and u can just try to avoid fighting him during meta

#

but in a duel u cant do that

#

its like same with pala

#

when he uses his avatar u just kite him

#

and then when it runs out, u win the fight in melee

#

but in duel u cant do that

#

i mean this

#

"avenging wrath"

#

hamstring -50% ms, thundering clap -20% ms and piercing howl -70% ms is actully insane

#

for kiting melees

lean rampart
#

Is there a good source or rule of thumb around who to target in the opener? Generally I go for caster if there is one, then dps if one looks squishy, then healer if dps look tanky. But it’s mostly vibes based/random for me tbh

lavish quest
#

🧢

boreal stone
tardy dock
#

so only highest applies?

lavish quest
#

Yes

#

Also, nothing warrior does is good at kiting, because literally everyone else is better at it

boreal stone
#

can 100% kite on warrior, it just doesnt matter cuz u have to use leaps and intervenes to kite, which makes u lose valuable uptime/team utility

elfin surge
#

a take

boreal stone
#

meanwhiole monk presses 3 rolls into flying serpent kick into tigers lust into double port into rop

#

MID

lavish quest
#

Yeah so... it's shit to do

sharp meteor
sharp meteor
#

Especially until they fix blur

boreal stone
#

vulpera players deserve death by guillotine

tardy dock
#

u can kite paladin

#

during his avenging wrath

#

he has no mobility

#

just ham string and charge away to healer

#

he cant do shit

#

disarm -5 sec

#

storm bolt -4 sec

violet fossil
#

he’d just freedom that lol

tardy dock
#

his whole cd is gone and he's done fuck all

violet fossil
#

and sanc

tardy dock
#

whats that

boreal stone
#

Blessing of freedom

#

and blessing of sanctuary

tardy dock
#

i havent learned pala abilities yet

#

they have like 50 blessings

boreal stone
#

you should

tardy dock
#

50 shields

violet fossil
#

you should

tardy dock
#

everything is the same

boreal stone
#

before thinking ur enstein making these outplays

#

LOL

violet fossil
#

lmao

#

divine shield immune to all damage

#

blessing of protection immune to physical damage only

#

shield of vengeance is absorb

tardy dock
#

both are immune

#

for warrior

violet fossil
#

to you yes

tardy dock
#

but

#

they got 5 min cd

#

and 30 sec cant use again

#

and u can dispell it

boreal stone
#

bubble is like 3.5 min

tardy dock
#

with the throw

boreal stone
#

bop is 4-5 min

#

shield is 1 min

tardy dock
#

some1 told me

boreal stone
#

along with their wall

tardy dock
#

u can dispell it with the throw

#

what wall?

boreal stone
#

Shatter takes bubble and bop off

#

read the tooltip

#

Divine protection i believe, 20% damage reduc

#

usable while ccd

tardy dock
#

why is ur profile pic invisible

#

also ive never lost to a pala in 2v2 in arena

#

they just kinda suck

boreal stone
#

what rating are u fighting these palas at?

tardy dock
#

i forgot

#

i barely see any

boreal stone
#

how do u forget the rating u play at

#

lol

tardy dock
#

cuz it changes over time

#

obviously i dont remember the rating i was when i fought the palas

boreal stone
#

if u fighting these ppl below 1800

#

they are literal noobs

#

and dont play their class properly

#

I wouldnt gauge how strong a class is by how often u beat it

#

and 1800 sub rogue is gonna be awful

#

a 2400 sub rogue is gonna win the game in the opener

tardy dock
#

i was 1300 as sub rogue

#

one shotting epople

#

in the opener

violet fossil
#

man

tardy dock
#

before trinket change from 20% to 12%

boreal stone
#

ur clean bro

tardy dock
#

i know

#

wait i can show u clip

violet fossil
#

lmao

tardy dock
#

im the rogue here (this is healer POV)

#

and my rating in this clip is around 1200

boreal stone
#

nice outplay

tardy dock
#

i got to 1400 and got stuck

#

so i made a warrior

#

and now i cant stop winning

#

its like i was made to be a warrior

#

just like Maximus

#

and Leonidas

violet fossil
#

should’ve kept playing rogue til you got better

tardy dock
#

no

#

they nerfed it twice

#

first trinket from 20% to 12% dmg with a 10% evis nerf

boreal stone
#

and its till the 3rd best melee in the game

tardy dock
#

then another 10% evis nerf

boreal stone
#

womp womp

tardy dock
#

or was it 3 nerfs i forgot

#

they nerfed it so much

#

even Kalvish

#

who loved sub rogue

#

changed to outlaw

#

now theres no chance in hell

#

u can 1 shot someone in a stun lock

#

like u saw in this video

#

u have to play smart

#

u cant just one shot

#

the fun is gone now

boreal stone
#

Kalvish literally played sub in AWC

#

and reverse swept a team with it

violet fossil
#

if warrior gets nerfed are you rerolling then

tardy dock
#

i thought he played outlaw

#

in the last cup

#

where he lost to pikaboo in the losers finals

tardy dock
#

i like winning

#

i dont like losing

#

i made a dh

#

he got giga nerfed

#

i rerolled to sub

#

giga nerfed agian

violet fossil
#

dh is still strong lol

#

how are you gonna improve if you don’t stay on one class

tardy dock
#

the more classs i play

#

the more i know how they work

#

so i know how to play against em

#

like right now

#

i got 0 idea what most classes do

#

cuz ive only played monk, dh, rogue and warrior

#

i know those class abilities but the other classes i dont

#

i just do my own thing and hope i win

#

things were much simpler before

#

now when every class has like 200 talents

#

each with its own unique effect

#

its a total mess

violet fossil
#

you only need to worry about a few from each spec

tardy dock
#

yeah

lavish quest
#

Rogue got nerfed, is still top, so you came to warrior? Which is a good amount worse? Interesting

tardy dock
#

No

#

Magnusz is rank 1

#

With warrior

#

Warrior is not worse

#

Maybe for 3v3

#

But i dont play 3v3

#

I only play 2v2

#

And /duels

#

Also outlaw is still insane

#

But the effort required to play it and learn it is so much

#

Warrior needs a fraction of the effort and learning

#

For the same power

#

Like they say

#

Work smarter not harder

violet fossil
#

what’s your rating on your warrior at now?

tardy dock
#

Im still climbing

#

I havent settled yet

violet fossil
#

what’s it at rn tho

tardy dock
#

For example

#

Look today

violet fossil
#

also magnus has been playing warrior for years

#

years

tardy dock
#

This my matches today

#

Just bought my conq weapon after the last one

#

Im just now getting started

#

Im gonna be rank 1

#

Im gonna be the greatest warrior

#

To have ever lived

#

And to ever live

violet fossil
#

I just hope when you hit a wall you keep going and don’t reroll lol

tardy dock
#

If magnusz

#

Can get rank 1 with 92% winrate

#

Then i should be able to do so too

#

Without a problem

violet fossil
#

yeah but magnus has been playing warrior for multiple years lol

tardy dock
#

Well yes

#

But im smart

#

I got 400 IQ

violet fossil
#

💀

tardy dock
#

I did a mensa test

#

And i got top result

violet fossil
#

the menso test you mean

tardy dock
#

Whats that

violet fossil
#

nothing

tardy dock
#

U see i watch magnusz play

#

And i absorb his play