how many more games do I have to play to get that?
#pvp
urban skiff
fallen estuary
Is that swole?
grand scaffold
fuck
my
life
shouldve just backed out
legit
mage doesnt block on my team
rdru doesnt bark
hpal just dies
on purpose
and dk
doesnt fucking dome
vs
double
fucking
faster
caster
boreal stone
thats not even that bad of a fury lobby
take a short break
drink some water
recollect
boreal stone
Supatease threw a shuffle in my last lobby last season
and probably cost me a shuff r1 title
because of it
grand scaffold
prob while i was playing with him
hate that guy
some lock ruined my r1 title
in combination with an arms warr
who went in and died on purpose saying "securing my r1"
bc i was on fury
boreal stone
what was their name?
boreal stone
ahh
violet fossil
who went in and died on purpose saying "securing my r1"
damn
grand scaffold
true story
rotund trellis
bc i was on fury
that's what you get to play fury hah
also were you wearing your Vicious Gladiator Pepe? If not that's why you went 1-5
rotund trellis
also how many fucking evasions, stealth, blur, shit do rogue have?
it's impossible to hit them for more than 3 seconds
they move so fucking fast, always invulnerable
why is that class always so broken?
fair cove
Hey, so I'm asking this in the other Discords too, but I'm a lifelong caster looking to make a plate class.
What would you consider to be best for dueling/WPvP/randoms (ie: you won't be able to depend on having a healer)?
UHDK, Retribution, Arms, or Fury?
boreal stone
Hey, so I'm asking this in the other Discords too, but I'm a lifelong caster loo...
Ret pala
fair cove
Yeah that's what the DKs said too.
boreal stone
U have bubble bop lay, 2 1minute XD walls, substantial damage (melee and ranged) and one of the longest stuns in the game
Plus access to blind and rep as well
river walrus
mage doesnt block on my team
it is crazy the amount of time this kinda shit happens
people will play out of their mind against you, next round on your team they will throw the game miserably
wet pollen
So how much is the -30% armor nerf gonna screw us?
wheat jay
Only warriors, rogues, and hunters do physical
So close to no change
Casters armor on the other hand
Is a big nerf to rogue and warr
wet pollen
Yeah I can see warlocks being tanky af now
violet fossil
https://www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/1770076-class-tuning-incoming-january...
Did you see the root and fear changes
rotund trellis
rotund trellis
Did you see the root and fear changes
yes, blizz is smoking heavy crack
violet fossil
All fear and root effects in PvP may now take 100% more damage before canceling in PvP combat.
rotund trellis
Warlocks and hunters will be top. Pala broken again?
river walrus
hahahahahahaha
they are trying to slow down the game even more for dampening
wtf
buffing stamina and armor for wizards
great
fickle forge
I'm out for this season, goodbye
deft wharf
look at the buff to AM
if they wanted to not buff then just don't buff
Anger Management now reduces Recklessness and Ravager’s cooldown by 1 second per 15 rage spent (was 20 rage).
idk what planet they live on where ppl are taking AM
river walrus
bro
these pvp changes are a joke
just show us they do not know what they` are doing
deft wharf
it's like they thought of the most obnoxious thing they could put in the warrior column
"ah yes, season 3 aka RA is winning, let's buff AM"
clearly the move is to play 3s with a ret
violet fossil
these pvp changes are a joke
You see the fear and root change
maybe it’ll help warriors out a bit
merry valley
wtf is this
Cloth specialization classes now gain an additional 35% armor in Arenas and Battlegrounds.
Plate specialization classes now have their armor reduced by 30% in Arenas and Battlegrounds.
next patch plate are naked now
river walrus
doesnt make sense that shit
and they buffed stamina
gonna be even harder to kill those danm locks
deft wharf
rogues are cancelled forever clearly
fallen estuary
Armor nerf is a buff to rogues
So whomp whomp youll die faster to them now fuck u lol
deft wharf
I still miss the tears from rogues in mop when they were not an auto W class like they were every other season
jk they could q with mop mages they were fine then too
fallen estuary
Rogues are fucking instant wins rn and its utterly miserable. Every lobby is a 6-0 fo em
violet fossil
Armor nerf is a buff to rogues
someone is putting a 10% damage increase due to the plate nerfs
finite fox
Damp games about to be nutty
boreal stone
The changes suck, but mag just told me something very important
Look for the good things
Warriors does more damage against paladins and Dks now too
deft wharf
clearly the dampening games are the true warrior buff
merry valley
Warriors does more damage against paladins and Dks now too
pahahah
boreal stone
Stamina change is very nice against sub rogues as well
river walrus
who WANTS slower games
some idiots want slower games, believe or not. It`s crazy
deft wharf
oh yea warr got buffed, due to ret/dk buffs
violet fossil
me thinks this is based on ss
deft wharf
ez play tsg or ret warr, ty 4 buff blizz
violet fossil
the tuning
violet fossil
oh yea warr got buffed, due to ret/dk buffs
well dk already takes a lot of physical damage
they don’t take it well
river walrus
i honestly dont care if SS rounds are over in 1 minute, i prefer that than going for 5 minutes each round
violet fossil
obviously the plate armor change sucks but it sucks for those 3 classes all together
merry valley
and clearly bliz is looking at Fury pvp by icyveins build
deft wharf
nah going off this they are looking at noxxic
river walrus
lol
violet fossil
You mean arenajunkies
deft wharf
I still remember when noxxic was telling pvp warrs to gem spell pen for fear resist
in cata
I DISTINCTLY recall this occuring
boreal stone
The roots taking longer to break is a pretty painful change imo
Might have to bring the gnome warrior out of retirement
deft wharf
bloodrage should be in reg tree and thirst for battle should be a pvp talent again
would help with walking simulator games
merry valley
they buff anger man but cant see that Fury needs them to also bring Bladestorm for it to be relevant
oh well
violet fossil
The roots taking longer to break is a pretty painful change imo
yeah
least we have roots sometimes
deft wharf
they'd need to have had s2 win the tier vote
for their change to do anything at all
those votes fucked pve and pvp both, somehow the raider andy vote won
even tho m+/pvp representation combined def is more than ppl who raid
(mainly m+ for # count tho tbh)
merry valley
tbh was said sets where gonna be changed to fit power, so doesnt matter rly
deft wharf
aka s2 shoulda won
merry valley
all set for fury are bad for pvp tbh
deft wharf
s2 one wasn't bad, you could chunk ppl with it hard
violet fossil
those votes fucked pve and pvp both, somehow the raider andy vote won
was gonna happen
you know pve players outnumber pvp players
deft wharf
and it was easily best season tier for +s
but somehow the minority pver aka raider won
i'd have expected this vote outcome before m+ introduction
wild that it occured after, since everyone and their brother does +s
hell, even post blizz trying to keep pve out of pvp pvpers still do m+ for specifics, galakrond fall staff etc
at least season 1 lost
merry valley
s2 one wasn't bad, you could chunk ppl with it hard
not beeing able to use bloothirst to stack damage is not my idea of a good set, when ur focused set is useless
deft wharf
anyone voting for that was inting
still had more kill potential than s3 imo
since it also buffed ramp too
vs just being a 1.5m spec
merry valley
anyone voting for that was inting
s1 wasnt actualy a bad choice
was said that if sets are to be competitive execute could be massivly buffed
if we got s1 set that is
boreal stone
Season 3 was the better tier set in pve for fury
deft wharf
for raiding yea
boreal stone
I disagree
Season 2 may have been more fun with AM and ravager
But it wasn’t necessarily better than current fury tier
deft wharf
cds every pack
deft wharf
clearly they should add a legion timewalking version of nighthold where ppl can farm elisande trinket again
then maybe RA would have cds all the time again
kinda weird that arms got s1 again, like yea dam%, but autoclap looked p nice
violet fossil
it’s so
boreal stone
Autoclap IS nice and arguably better
violet fossil
stupid
boreal stone
But EU swung the vote in favor of season 1
deft wharf
yea s1 just looks bland and not that great
autoclap when playing with a dk giving entire team the succ inward
boreal stone
Season 1 arms was pretty fun but that was before crit nerf went live
deft wharf
to pad on them like pve dragons
deft wharf
hell, give bloodbath back and the deep wounds tuning from mop back
when if someone went 20% they auto L
then we'll see some bleeds
would legit go back arms if it played/felt like mop
(and I don't mean the being WILDLY op either)
violet fossil
hell, give bloodbath back and the deep wounds tuning from mop back
A man of culture I see
I miss bloodstorm so much
deft wharf
chasing mages with bloodbath bladestorm and rocket boots was comedy gold
or druids trying to shift the slow
LMAO
deft wharf
randomly heroic striking folks for 1/2 hp
violet fossil
hamstring was off gcd too
violet fossil
SECOND WIND
deft wharf
o you randomly faked pummel? k i yell at ur cast now
second wind in duels god
if ppl popped cds before second wind hp range they auto lost
violet fossil
lol
wheat crane
Is the arms build in pins up to date
boreal stone
BcEAfuKaizEAgP2qANDB2hmf7DgWiERCJJalSSAAAAABRiASQRENIJkEKSESIARCAAAAAAAAJpkICIENEA
swap honed reflexes and fast footwork with frothing berserker and wrecking/shatter as needed
spec out of unhinged into pet classes (demo, unh DK, bm) and play hurricane into those instead
wheat crane
Perfect
Now how the fuck do i gear, haven't qed since like early s2
Just spam 2s get 4 pc then weap?
boreal stone
full honor gear, but w/e u can with bloody tokens and trophies of strife (u can convert it to tier, and only a 3 ilvl loss)
Weapon prob more important than 4 set, do keep in mind u get a free tier piece at 1600
u can also buy trophies of strife now for 3500 honor each
and send honor to alts
so if u have toons with an honor cap, u can just use that to funnel honor to ur main to buy trophies to get the 486 ilvl gear
make sure to use tier token on either legs or chest, since those cost the most conq
wheat crane
damn we dont run spear anymore?
boreal stone
nope
spear sucks
crit nerfs made it even worse than it already was
if ur looking for big crits, ww is what arms used to be in SL
wheat crane
man shits wild
i take a break and we ditch spear and swap to thunder clap bleeds lmao
boreal stone
dont forget shockwave
its a 3 second aoe stu now
stun
same as stormbolt in terms of duration
wheat crane
gonna tell me we actually click slam next
violet fossil
cause the tree design is cheeks
merry valley
Onslaught going places
eternal hare
so dumb, and we lose str from our talent
urban skiff
yep
sounds like it's a nerf to warrior, rogue and hunter(?)
and massive warlock buff as well
eternal hare
yeah not stoked lol
urban skiff
devo and warlocks are going to dominate until they roll out second set of hotfixes
violet fossil
what’s that fear talent that makes it take more damage to break
lol
@boreal stone 👀
urban skiff
it seems to have dodged the other nerfs to fear damage increases
so fear will take 400% more damage before it breaks, I'd wager we'll feel that when using on a low healer
violet fossil
so fear will take 400% more damage before it breaks, I'd wager we'll feel that w...
do you know how much damage it takes to break?
urban skiff
I can look it up
is considered as OP so I think evokers are going to be a pain as well now
violet fossil
ah damn
urban skiff
There's nothing about it on wowhead under the ability so it's a global stat
boreal stone
what’s that fear talent that makes it take more damage to break
The one below fear talent
It got linked
urban skiff
so dumb, and we lose str from our talent
For me I'm losing 30% of 1608 strength. So 482 strength nerf
Add that clothies gain 35% armor and we're not going to be having a good time
At least fury's self-healing gets buffed by 9.5%
urban skiff
I don't know how i feel about these changes. ret aren't marked as pve only
hot solstice
Do we also lose some damage with armour nerf? Cause of that talent
urban skiff
I'm 100% certain
urban skiff
Do we also lose some damage with armour nerf? Cause of that talent
it's ~500 strength
grand scaffold
it's ~500 strength
i mean
we also hit harder because of less armor
so if we against a plate class which is 30%
and we remove 30%
21% is left
so its a 9% buff
in that regard
urban skiff
roughly a 3% strength decrease
grand scaffold
how we feelin about the changes
which changes
urban skiff
We'll hit plate and shaman harder
we'll hit the rest less hard
like I said, the real winners are warlocks and devokers
honest sundial
which changes
?
grand scaffold
like I said, the real winners are warlocks and devokers
😦
i wouldnt say that
ide say warr is just generally losing
against most things
based on that
urban skiff
yea but warlock survival is linked to hp and we're getting a 9.5% stam increase
urban skiff
and +35% armor
urban skiff
we're going to see a rapid swing back to caster meta
urban skiff
Fury is getting 9.5% more self heal because of the stam increase
hot solstice
we're going to see a rapid swing back to caster meta
Back?😂
grand scaffold
when do these chnges hjit?
urban skiff
Back?😂
we're currently in the middle stages where it could still swing either way but was heading in the caster direction.
grand scaffold
Fury is getting 9.5% more self heal because of the stam increase
i think bt should go back to 5% heal
urban skiff
(before hotfix announcement)
grand scaffold
and battle trance too
urban skiff
but I'm just a dumbass so the skilled people should probably chime in
hot solstice
It all started with precog…they couldn’t manage to create something as strong for melee so now they buffing casters even more
hot solstice
But what melees got?
urban skiff
precog should have been lust or immunity, and not complete immunity
or precog should have had a hefty icd
grand scaffold
But what melees got?
mettle
grand scaffold
or precog should have had a hefty icd
i think it should work the same way it does for us
urban skiff
But what melees got?
1/3rd trinket proc from applying cc on a 30 sec cd
grand scaffold
effect can only happen every 15 sec
urban skiff
isn't it 30?
hot solstice
1/3rd trinket proc from applying cc on a 30 sec cd
Casters can also play it
hot solstice
They do actually
urban skiff
it would be a weird mechanic, imagine kicking them randomly to prevent them from baiting precog during burst
grand scaffold
so precog is 4 sec so 15 sec cd should work
hot solstice
Well ye that’s comparable af
urban skiff
Like idk where even to begin with that
grand scaffold
Well ye that’s comparable af
i think that balances it on the spot tbh
urban skiff
Melee should have a precog equivalent to prevent roots and slows if casters mess up
urban skiff
No idea how it should look, but punish casters for being bad at something same way we get punished for bad kicks
urban skiff
can't remember what thirst for battle is
grand scaffold
bloodthirst removes all slows and roots
was so nice
we also had perma piercing howl
didnt cost rage or have a cd
merry valley
Fury is realy getting PvP specific changea to AM...
hot solstice
imagine now playing gnome after roots buff
merry valley
Its as if they dont have statistics to see wich talents are beeing used
grand scaffold
Fury is realy getting PvP specific changea to AM...
dude
the am change
is so bad
its just a 25% lower cd using that
well hold on
if hp pools are that high maybe its good
idk
merry valley
Idk anymore, if we got Bladestorm as a PvP talent replacing Ravager, id say the AM changes were good
grand scaffold
and if you play annihilator to get a shit load of rampages
can maybe get it on a 45 sec cd
urban skiff
lmao
viable SMF by virtue of suddenly overbuffing AM because nobody will touch that talent
I can't wait
grand scaffold
maybe smf would be good
urban skiff
These changes are so weird, something is going to radically change
grand scaffold
idk
theres a lot of weird things that could make fury good again
i might even go and try smf
urban skiff
with the lifted cap on conq we're finally in a spot where we can experiment freely
grand scaffold
problem is missing 2 talent points
grand scaffold
with the lifted cap on conq we're finally in a spot where we can experiment free...
when is the cap gone
merry valley
Next reset
grand scaffold
oooh
merry valley
Together with all the amazing class tunning we just got
Aka all the plate u can eat buffet
urban skiff
hopefully we stay viable just because of how they buffed ret
maybe we'll be the only melee that can fight them
I can dream
grand scaffold
i mean
with smf
wtf do we drop to get those 2 talent points
cant be slaughtering strikes
and cant be bt talents
urban skiff
I don't at all care for SMF and I'm still sad for my SMF brothers because they don't get to live their dream 😦
grand scaffold
i mean
in theory
it could be really good
but what in the fuck do we drop to play it
merry valley
Tbh just remove improved exdcute and warpaint xD plate will be paper, 5% of nothing is still nothing
merry valley
Dont forget anger management!!!!!!
merry valley
Cant even take ravager to full use AM
grand scaffold
theoretically why not
proper valve
did anyone test how 30% armor nerf interacts with strength for armor talent?
urban skiff
did anyone test how 30% armor nerf interacts with strength for armor talent?
around 3% strength loss
merry valley
theoretically why not
Cursed next reset Fury build:
grand scaffold
whats the point of ravager in am anyway
urban skiff
fury generation?
grand scaffold
meh
urban skiff
maybe rotation during reck will be rampage -> rampage -> rampage -> rampage -> rampage -> rampage -> with it?
lol
grand scaffold
idk thats such a yuckmouth build
urban skiff
full uptime on reck
let's goooo
make a build so cursed that people finally stop complaining about annie
merry valley
grand scaffold
annihilator
merry valley
Id say this would be the viable smf build
grand scaffold
with no bt execute
seems atrocious
ide drop execut talent
just bc execute hits like a potato anyway
urban skiff
warpaint is mandatory, remember we're hitting the caster meta
merry valley
Cant remove more first row points anyway
Either frenzy/slaughtering strikes/cruelty has to go
urban skiff
I already play without slaughtering strikes tbh
merry valley
Even thogh smf can prolly push full stacks every ramp?
urban skiff
don't forget we have to get the extra talent for intim shout
open glacier
ravager has a 70% slow with a pvp talent right? or that's just bladestorm
I dont play fury pvp since 10.1.0 and that was a buff later on 🤣
merry valley
merry valley
Like the dephts of insanity detail, just to show how far gone it is
urban skiff
I dub it: Zerchers never not reckless simple build for simpletons
merry valley
Funny thing is they unerfed Crushing Blow for PvP, on a season with BT spam set bonus. And now AM buffs
urban skiff
Or ZNNRSBFS
let's look a little ahead: We're halfway through the season and will be going S1 after
merry valley
Auto attack meta build is peak design
urban skiff
It was never killed, arms and fury just got buffed, afaik
Man the smart people in this channel are going to be so upset when they wake up and read all this
grand scaffold
merry valley
Good enough
teal hedge
Why is she nekid
urban skiff
hat and back are different
mild thunder
warlock has some of the coolest armor in the game, standards should be wayyyy higher
urban skiff
7/9 is not full
teal hedge
Where r her clothings
mild thunder
hat and back are different
so basically a full-set xD
urban skiff
Where r her clothings
tbh she's wearing more than i am right now
teal hedge
So true bestie
urban skiff
10/10
urban skiff
ungabunga grampa:
urban skiff
so basically a full-set xD
this isn't a full set, right?
teal hedge
ungabunga grampa:
Love thius
mild thunder
this isn't a full set, right?
not sure, but i dont care for it
rather basic and bland imo
grand scaffold
after a lot of ques
ive concluded officially
annihilator is bad
and raging blow is better
the pressure is just not the same
and battle trance does comparable healing
mild thunder
and raging blow is better
who woulda guessed the build that does more damage with the same utility would be better
grand scaffold
who woulda guessed the build that does more damage with the same utility would b...
utility is objectively worse
but dmg is better
and smexxin plays annihilator btw
mild thunder
utility is objectively worse
how lol
grand scaffold
bc
youre forced into taking battle trance
and you cant run master and commander and safeguard at the same time
thats how i look at it anyway
mild thunder
i dont think battle trance is mandatory tbh
slaughterhouse is mandatory, then you get to pick between BR, BT, BC, safeguard and disarm
if anything BC is more mandatory than BT, that talent is actually cracked
ngl if i were gonna go for the elite set on warr this ssn i'd play rb fury over arms
but the set sucks, so i wont lol
grand scaffold
i dont think battle trance is mandatory tbh
idk
you lose out on a lot of dmg not having that talent
as well as being a lot more squishy
mild thunder
it's a bit of damage, but the healing part is why you take it imo
but 100% you're dropping it if you need other stuff
grand scaffold
idk i almost never drop it
value lost seems so huge
with rb
it does like 700k healing a game
which is ignore pain level
per round*
bt + gushing wound healing is roughly the same too
so you become paper without it
lavish quest
Does it matter when we all rerolling to warlocks?
teal hedge
Nerd
lavish quest
I didn't make it world of warlockcraft
teal hedge
Oh btw, have they done anything with dh?
lavish quest
More
teal hedge
Only slightly more
There are 19 more DHs than there are warriors above 2400 rating
With DH being ahead by only 1-2 percentile units in 1800 and 2100 rating
teal hedge
Nice one!
crimson plinth
Yo question; I've seen arms warrior with less pvp gear have way more health. any ideas? is this a bug does it scale proper? i'm just confused a bit
grand scaffold
grand scaffold
Yo question; I've seen arms warrior with less pvp gear have way more health. an...
do you have a screenshot of his gear?
crimson plinth
I do not
crimson plinth
he has 80k more health
rapid shore
prob missing endurance training talent?
grand scaffold
tauren racial + a bit
you should never not have endurance
shockwave is too good
crimson plinth
Hmm using talents of highest rbg arms player
no endurance there
But thanks for tips
grand scaffold
there should be
shockwave is a 3 sec aoe stun
generates 20 rage
its really good
crimson plinth
Do you ever use slam? i have no more space for shockwave on my bars xD
rapid shore
totem killer
crimson plinth
grand scaffold
i just overpower those
eesh
drop overwhelming rage
drop cruel strikes
drop uproar
get
and also
drop exhilerating blows
and get massacre
and drop bloodsurge
and get fbv
that guys got some shifty build ngl
and probably drop 5% movement speed for frothing berserker
dont really need to chase in rbgs
crimson plinth
Thanks!
grand scaffold
np
dark topaz
quick question, is the legendary better than the conquest sword for arms? i would imagine the ilvl difference makes up for the stats, no?
urban skiff
Yes, ilvl is king for melee because of how the dps stat is used to normalize weapon dmg
dark topaz
I see
Thanks
damn that mage really felt the legendary
too bad next reset it won't hit like that anymore 😦
dark topaz
37% vers
for absolutely no reason
my stats are fucked hard
these are my stats inside arena
damn no pixels on that
dark topaz
you want import string or ss?
grand scaffold
ss
dark topaz
dark topaz
yes man
dark topaz
i had the wpvp polearm too
grand scaffold
how many runs did it take you to get it?
dark topaz
rarity said 9 but in reality i think it was around 15
cause i didn't import the string day 1
only later when i found out about it
grand scaffold
yeah hardest ive hit is about 220k
once
sometimes hits for slightly less than 200k
like 180 or 190
dang weapon makes a massive diff
dark topaz
i'm looking now at the replay, i hit the mage for 168k overpower just before that, and check this out
i had 2 stacks of op, ava up, hurricane up, sophic up and embelished helm proc up
literally everything in the game besides 2 stacsk of execute and cs
that makes me think i would've annihilated the fool if i had those 2 as well
my stats just before hitting that ms make me think the helm gave me crit since mastery is same and the haste i think it's from IftK
grand scaffold
whats buff #4
fluid gate
+10% dmg just because of that
dark topaz
courtesy of @fluid gate for the small loan of 160k
grand scaffold
that's just prismatic bauble i have it macrod into my burst macro
is that a trinket?
dark topaz
nah, just the toy that makes me leave a rainbow trail
grand scaffold
oh
some warr whispered me
talkin bout its funny you think youre good
while im playing fury and hes arms and he went 0-6
😂
dark topaz
grand scaffold
hilarious
bc every round vs me
he shouldve beat me
by just going me
i wouldve died
but he did potato dmg
dark topaz
he did not embrace the zug properly 
grand scaffold
😂
grand scaffold
yeah it happens
intervening is risky business
not worth it unless healer is ccd or you have a defensive to save yourself just in case
dark topaz
yeahh
fallen estuary
that's just prismatic bauble i have it macrod into my burst macro
Bauble bros rejoice
fluid gate
ss q times are the main reason why my main has 2 gathering professions
just gather myself into oblivion, fish, or cook up the next trash mog
fallen estuary
What do you guys do with your downtime
Smoke crack
boreal stone
literally everything in the game besides 2 stacsk of execute and cs
You had wabreaker up my bro
Ur haste went to 40%
Unless ur playing 42% baseline haste with 34% versatility lol
fleet egret
What a real war doing in a shit like this?
https://youtu.be/H8Ij0w60mh8
green anchor
What a real war doing in a shit like this?
https://youtu.be/H8Ij0w60mh8
anything for content to make money ofc
dark topaz
You had wabreaker up my bro
OH, you're right
Mb I'm dumb
Actually I'll check tomorrow if it was just iftk up and cs ran out or both (unless they last the same, forgot) although it would make more sense to hit that with cs up
fallen estuary
Thats bourbons LMAO
fallen estuary
What a real war doing in a shit like this?
https://youtu.be/H8Ij0w60mh8
Another trash game paying streamers to soy face over cartoon animals smh. Play quake 1 n 2 and youll have a way better time than playin that slop
wheat jay
What a real war doing in a shit like this?
https://youtu.be/H8Ij0w60mh8
being a real warr
in other words
enjoying himself
wheat jay
thats not -40
grand scaffold
<:keks:936231610850897992>
exactly
grand scaffold
bruh
a draw
-20
the lobbys mmr wasnt even that much lower than mine
and a 0-1 caused by hpal leaving
-20
makes objectively no sense
in 3s ifyou lose 1 game
you lose 10
🤨
rotund trellis
dog when are you carrying my resto druid to 2400?
wheat jay
the lobbys mmr wasnt even that much lower than mine
but it was lower
in 3s if you lose one game you lose between 7 and 20 cr depending on your mm
your mmr was higher than others, so you lost mmr for going 3-3
and then you had 0-1 so you lsot again
i can't see how its difficult to understand
bronze crystal
finding it hard to push past 1800 atm
fluid gate
the mmr system may seem unfair at a glance, but it does make a lot of sense
nimble jasper
little lava
thats what u get for playing fury
thick reef
what is finishing wound, is it from deep wounds or what?
little lava
set
limber relic
what is finishing wound, is it from deep wounds or what?
execute bleed from 4set
thick reef
Comes from Sudden death procs only tho
limber relic
thick reef
execute bleed from 4set
i have 2 set but do i have to have 4 set?
boreal stone
i have 2 set but do i have to have 4 set?
yes
thick reef
ok
bronze crystal
any tips on pushig further then 1800
boreal stone
any tips on pushig further then 1800
post a vod, ill review it for u for free
hard to tell u what u should do better if I dont know what you specifically are doing incorrectly
bronze crystal
ok ill film the next shuffle i do
fallen estuary
any tips on pushig further then 1800
spam cc's on healer its literally a free win
leap / fear
SB or Charge shockwaves in your bursts
boreal stone
there is no be all end all
fallen estuary
its bare min
boreal stone
to ccing healers
fallen estuary
1800 healers dunno wtf theyre doing just 1 cc will send them into a mental breakdown
boreal stone
neither do 1800 warriors tho
so theyll leap fear
get rooted into a full stun
and get killed
behind pillar
grand scaffold
guys
what the fuck is this
roots take 100% more dmg to break
cloth armor buff by 35%
rapid shore
xD
rapid shore
why they do this?
rapid shore
armor isnt issue?
grand scaffold
it isnt
rapid shore
its huge nerf to our str
grand scaffold
time to go back to demo
..
i might just vomit till im unconcious
sp
is going to be better than fury
fuck
honest sundial
<@805887896518787133>
WHAT b*tch
fickle forge
is going to be better than fury
As it should be
honest sundial
buff arms
fickle forge
Who made this
grand scaffold
supatease
-_-
the only one i dont agree with is dk and ret locations
and disc priest
grand scaffold
we'll see how it turns out
honest sundial
whose list is that btw
fickle forge
Bro did not read 2 lines up
grand scaffold
lol
violet fossil
the only one i dont agree with is dk and ret locations
they should switch locations
grand scaffold
yeah
mild thunder
its huge nerf to our str
it's not a huge nerf lol
it's like 300str
which is maybe 1-2%
grand scaffold
some other guy saying this
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which is maybe 1-2%
i mean
you gotta take into account the armor buff for clothies
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which is maybe 1-2%
if armor goes down by 30%
we lose 4113.6
and 10% of that is 411.36 strength
not far off tbh
yeah 2% nerf to strength
but the cloth buff will sting
mild thunder
you gotta take into account the armor buff for clothies
that affects a lot of melee, not just arms
so it's not like only arms is being nerfed
grand scaffold
i mean
what other melee does as much physical dmg as us
outlaw rogue
but not much else
dark topaz
isn't ww also mostly physical? except xuen?
mild thunder
outlaw, ww, feral, bm, mm, sv is phys heavy, sub is very phys heavy
grand scaffold
sub does mostly shadow lol
rapid shore
it's like 300str
About 500 str. 5% dmg
mild thunder
sub does mostly shadow lol
it does not. it's main damage sources are evis and secret tech. secret tech is all phys, evis is mostly phys
in terms of its actual burst
grand scaffold
sec tech is physical?
mild thunder
yes
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oh alr thought it was shadow
fickle forge
what other melee does as much physical dmg as us
BM, WW, MM, outlaw, sub, fury, winds build enh, bite ferals
Even demo lock has high phys dmg build
grand scaffold
BM, WW, MM, outlaw, sub, fury, winds build enh, bite ferals
nobody playing the winds build for enh tho
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Even demo lock has high phys dmg build
forgot about that
mild thunder
nobody playing enh**
fickle forge
nobody playing the winds build for enh tho
Maybe not right now, but that's just a matter of meta
Winds was popular for S1 and early S2
fickle forge
nobody playing enh**
I do 
mild thunder
could arguably add sv to that list as well... large portion of the damage is phys, especially burst
grand scaffold
idk about surv i mean technically
mild thunder
flanking, mongoose, chakrams, kill shot, kill command
mild thunder
fury of the eagle too
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if you count all 3
mild thunder
eh, not really
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kinda is
mild thunder
mongoose and bomb are usually very tight/mb is higher
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atleast when i face them
mild thunder
bomb just pads on aoe
grand scaffold
yeah but still adds to #1
mild thunder
pets, other players etc.
fickle forge
10 if it's zoo demo lock build
mild thunder
also ngl sv coding is so dumb that i wouldnt be surprised to learn bomb is affected by armor
it's removed by bop for some reason lol
grand scaffold
10 if it's zoo demo lock build
people are starting to switch to demo bolt build
its weird but it kinda cranks
anyways its 9/26 or 10/26 specs are getting a nerf
fickle forge
Sub def got a fat buff vs plate with this patch
mild thunder
true
grand scaffold
yeah
mild thunder
but you'll probably see less plate overall, so not sure if it's worth losing dmg on casters
grand scaffold
people are most likely gonna start rolling casters
fickle forge
Arms and fury just so happened to be the one most affected by this patch unfortunately
mild thunder
casters/magic melee
grand scaffold
yeah
mild thunder
i wish feral was actually a bleed spec so i didnt have to care 
grand scaffold
lol
mild thunder
but bites go brr
grand scaffold
i wish fury was a bleed spec
wheat jay
Lol
grand scaffold
slaughterhouse stackable bleed
wheat jay
Loooool
wheat jay
No, arms would be the bleed spec if they reworked it
grand scaffold
sounds cool
fickle forge
Warr this patch:
grand scaffold
No, arms would be the bleed spec if they reworked it
i liked how bfa deep wounds worked better
fickle forge
BFA was def the worst iteration of arms of all time
mild thunder
DF was def the worst iteration of arms of all time
idk, bring back legion arms or something
i've already typed out how to make arms cool a dozen times
fickle forge
Legion arms was good
It only lacked a reliable heal, but other than that it was fine
The 20/20 Dstance era
mild thunder
dstance should be 20/30... you should lose damage so it's never worth sitting, but you should be genuinely rewarded for pre-stancing cc
but they should remove ignore pain
fickle forge
I don't think a fat flat dmg done reduction is the way
I'd rather it restricted abilities
Like you can't Exe in Dstance or smth
mild thunder
could make it so the damage reduction reduces over time - 20% for 6 seconds, then 15%, 10% etc.
i think that'd be a good approach tbh
fickle forge
The whole point of having stances in any game is to allow for different moves
Having it be a buff is just whatever
mild thunder
yea but is that really a level of complexity that most arms players would be comfortable with these days?
but yea i think either idea works tbh
i also think stuff like battlelord needs to go, rage economy needs to be fixed, modifiers need to be impactful etc.
mild thunder
so true bestie
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fair cove
How does Arms feel in 1v1/solo situations? Compared to UHDK.
I'm trying to pick a plate class. I already have a 70 DK and Ret, and I've been told Ret is best for 1v1 situations of the three, but I really dislike how simplistic Ret feels to play. Is Arms a little more complex? Does it have decent survivability?
My Warrior is only lvl 7 atm. So, it's obviously hard to get a feel for it.
urban skiff
How's it going ya'll? Those warlocks levelled and geared yet?
urban skiff
How does Arms feel in 1v1/solo situations? Compared to UHDK.
I'm trying to pick...
Why would you care about 1v1 situations?
fair cove
Cause I don't play rated. 99% of my time is spent in random BGs.
So, I don't have a pocket healer
urban skiff
arms and dk relies way more on having a healer to have fun in bgs