pvp

[grand scaffold]

dont hit into astral shift

yo guys

is there a website that shows the top comps that are being played

there used to be one i checked but it got shut down apparently

[fallen estuary]

Thats why i treat healers like shit

Yea it might explain why they treat me like shit but the shit feelings are equally mutual

[grand scaffold]

Bars

Lol

[river walrus]

Drustvar

[grand scaffold]

oh alr

[analog merlin]

just remove healers from solo shuffle. ez.

or optional to include them

[grand scaffold]

😂

imagine a 6 dps shuffle

[thick reef]

where can I find a decent pvp fury guide?

[grand scaffold]

what questions do you ahve

i can prob answer them rn

[thick reef]

mainly just trying to find a talent build that works with the 4set cause i dont find myself using bloodthirst with the Slaughtering Strikes build

[grand scaffold]

you dont use bloodthirst unless you have the bonus from odyns fury or have popped enraged regen

dw about that

you arent meant to spam it constantly

• the bonus is nerfed by 50% in pvp

[thick reef]

ah so same difference, just the 4set helps do damage in the proc window?

[grand scaffold]

nah

the 4 set just reduces the cd on odyns fury

but its not a big deal

[thick reef]

alrighty, ty ❤️

[grand scaffold]

np

[thick reef]

starting to wonder if i should just play arms for the tier bonus lmao

[grand scaffold]

honestly

fury is bad

i cant even defend it

and its my favorite spec of all time

the only reason to play it is if you dont like arms

[thick reef]

im 479 pvp ilvl and average about 60k dps sustained. am i just handicapping myself by playing fury/

[grand scaffold]

yes you are

as arms

3s game btw

without pet spam

[thick reef]

👀SHEEESH

[grand scaffold]

arms ftw atm

not close or comparable

matter of fact fury is the worst melee in the game

worst spec goes to aug tho

[thick reef]

idk if i can part with my two bonkers 😦

[grand scaffold]

you have 2 conq weapons?

[thick reef]

is fury atleast viable in the 1800-2200 bracket lol

no just one conq wep but ive been grinding for my second

[grand scaffold]

not in 3's

in shuffle im 2200

on it

but in about 2/3 of the games played i hit 2498 on arms

its a real struggle as fury to get near there

but getting 1800 should be relatively ok

[thick reef]

sad, havent played since s1

[grand scaffold]

yeah fury was soooooooooooo fun in s1

i loved the tier set

[thick reef]

yeah execute spam was great

[grand scaffold]

yeah fr

it was just peak

i loved it

[fallen estuary]

Fury is a pitbull spec

Just think " what would a pitbull do to this warlock " situation

[fickle forge]

Yeah it is

All specs are

[elfin surge]

is retail pvp back yet

[wheat jay]

No

KFC still bad

Game should die

[teal hedge]

Kfc tastey

[wheat jay]

Double grander

Best fastfood

McDonald's is shit on the other hand

1/10

Whereas kfc is like 4 overall

But like 7-8 for fastfoods

[mild thunder]

wtf is a double grander

oportos is the only S tier fast food

[wheat jay]

This

Well, that's a box, grander is the burger

Two pieces of chicken, bacon, veggies, sauce

Btw, kentucky gold sauce in KFC is fucking GOLDEN

Best sauce

[fallen estuary]

Bro

That kfc box bundles so fucking good

I will literally force myself onto my 600ib life with just those box bundles

[wheat jay]

Yep

Like, I ate some time limited McDonald's burgers

And i gotta say they suck ass

Yo could replace the meat with asphalt and noone would notice the difference

KFC tho

Mmmmmm boi

[boreal stone]

yes

log on

dont b weird

[fallen estuary]

Be my guest silithid beater mud and get 100-0ed by a single eye beam

[wheat jay]

Oi

Its not even the big hitter now

[mild thunder]

dh dies in two hits now anyway lol

just bite them bro

[violet fossil]

kfc from where

[sage raptor]

I think tonight I will play my hunter

Survival ofc

[amber heron]

Can anyone ref craft for me

Plz

[dapper ore]

Is there a .5 second grace period to bladestorm a disarm?

[simple rock]

only monk disarm

cuz of travel time

otherwise it's just a read

[grand scaffold]

nah

its more like .2

basically if you see a rogue stunning you or whatever just spam it

and you might get lucky

[teal hedge]

You want da real best fast food?

Max baybeee

Swedish burgars

They exist in Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Poland and Egypt.

[mild thunder]

egypt seems a little out of place on this list...

[teal hedge]

The pharaohs yearn for the burger

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/the-mummy-scared-gif-12030405

egyptians when they see sweidsh burgers

[fallen estuary]

Egyptians when the waiter brings them their sand burger

[wheat jay]

And when they throw few drops of water so its not dry

Real gourmet shit

[fallen estuary]

implying they have water

[wheat jay]

If its some top tier restaurant then maybe xD

[teal hedge]

Are we just forgetting about the Nile?

Or the read sea?

Or the mediterranean?

[fallen estuary]

yea

its just a ever expanding desert

[teal hedge]

Furthest east I've ever been is turkey and that was pretty arid

So I actually don't know how arid northern africa would be, but I've seen pictures and the deserts look huge

[grand scaffold]

what

[lean burrow]

he is really good at defense

it's a bug that goes away if he dies once

[grand scaffold]

oh alr

[violet fossil]

is it stacked twice or

[grand scaffold]

i got no idea

i gotta get like that guy tho

ill be immortal

[fickle forge]

It's just PvE values

Looks like it's showing the prot warr tooltip for 15% though

[sterile grove]

does spell reflected hammer of justice DR?

[grand scaffold]

yes

[sterile grove]

ok

so theoretically i could get the reflect right but the pally is stun immune DR

[fickle forge]

Yes

[warped warren]

mmh

[wheat jay]

OMG you're alive

Hey Eto

[grand scaffold]

BREAKING NEWS

ROOT BREAKS STOP RAY OF FROST

[wheat jay]

Huh

How does that make any sense?

[grand scaffold]

because

it removes all slowing effects

ray of frost slows you

it removes it

[wheat jay]

Ok but why does it stop the channel

Sounds unintended lol

[grand scaffold]

idk

but it does

i like it

i be using gnome racial to escape it

[teal hedge]

Fellas you fw pinot noir?

[grand scaffold]

what

[teal hedge]

Epic fail kid

Pinot noir is a kind of grape commonly used for a wine, of the same name.

[fallen estuary]

i drink grape monster

[teal hedge]

It's very sensitive to all kinds of harsh environments

You have no idea how much I know about this grape

[grand scaffold]

mb bro

i dont drink i had no idea what you were talking about

i thought it was a french tv show

😢

[teal hedge]

That is awesome

[grand scaffold]

😂

[teal hedge]

I am sorry ndogo I was being ironic

[grand scaffold]

all g

i was just full on clueless

😂

[fallen estuary]

congrats on the new title grape lord

he who savors the grape

[teal hedge]

I have read the entire wikipedia article

[grand scaffold]

grape is

the best fruit

nothing beats it

[fallen estuary]

dude i love grapes so much i have a bag of em rotting on my floor rn

im devoted

[grand scaffold]

😂

[teal hedge]

Next to the ants and moldy bread?

[fallen estuary]

Wow thanks censor

oh yea thats the fermenting jelly i was talking about @lavish quest

i had it in my room for like a year now and my room smells like alchohol whenever i enter it lmao

[teal hedge]

Is that coffee creamer?

[fallen estuary]

bottom left?

[teal hedge]

Blue container

[fallen estuary]

that the fermenting jelly lmao

[teal hedge]

Oh my god

[fallen estuary]

that bottle next to it is the jack i whiff every lobby i play

[teal hedge]

I've had some real depression shit in my room but yours beat mine

[fallen estuary]

guessing you werent here for the carpet shrimp incident i had 😔

[rotund trellis]

I'm in Italy on vacation with my girlfriend, skiing in the dolomites mountains and having the best food anyone can eat. Yet, I'd rather hit the arena and train a 2-braincell DH. What's wrong with me?

[lavish quest]

Dab, hire a cleaner or some shit

Wut is that

[violet fossil]

ya need help

[fallen estuary]

i get that alot

[violet fossil]

Is that a pomegranate

[fallen estuary]

ye

[violet fossil]

lawd

[teal hedge]

Worst I ever had was 3 pizza boxes on da floor

[wispy helm]

is rank of crafted items for pvp important?

[teal hedge]

You mean ilvl?

Because item level is extremely important.

[wispy helm]

right so the pvp gets rescaled fto 489, but i have a rank 3 463 ilvl boots

[teal hedge]

Interesting

[fallen estuary]

holy shit marks nerf when?

just had this dude backpeddle and with horrible positioning 6-0 a caster lobby easily while doing /laugh emotes standing still

400k sniper shot into 300k aimed

[wheat jay]

Iirc sniper is %hp based

[sharp meteor]

Hm. Wafting or Sophic for Arms? I'm torn. 🤔

[fallen estuary]

go sophic it just buffs dots anyway

we are the new feral druids

[mild thunder]

wafting is such an odd name for an enchant

[mild thunder]

makes sense, since neither arms nor feral do most of their damage with dots lol

[glass orchid]

whats the leggo effect reduction in pvp?

i see Hapigirl has it now

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/us/tichondrius/kenstlols

[mild thunder]

it's nerfed by half, but it doesnt matter

it's an ilvl increase with a charge

[pine pine]

It's nerfed a lot more than half

[mild thunder]

that's according to wowhead

but again, it literally doesnt matter

it could be nerfed by 99%, it would still be an upgrade

7 ilvls is 7 ilvls and an extra charge is an extra charge

[lavish quest]

Healer leaves after person dies in 3rd round but before I gt credit for the round so only got 2 rounds when I spanked for 3s. And might have 6-0'd (on an alt war)

Sigh

[calm briar]

what is the most efficient way to gear a war for pvp should I save trophies for a wep and save conquest for other pieces? Or use some hellbloom to create tier?

[idle vessel]

does the leggo work in pvp?

[mild thunder]

yes. even if it didnt, it would still be worth farming

[idle vessel]

oh im tryin haha

[simple rock]

the leggo being bis in arena is definitely an oversight

really silly that it's a thing

standard blizz not caring about pvp

[mild thunder]

how?

it's literally always been that way for legendaries

evoker leggo was no different

SL legendaries obviously bis, although they were a bit different

pretty sure raeshalare was technically bis for ranged hunters

[sage raptor]

hey guys
i created a BRILLIANT STRATEGY
it is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO LOSE WITH IT
at least in my mind
i just need another rogue who will play with me
the strategy is very simple
we sit afk stealthed in the base of the 2v2 arena, enemy will not know what's going and be confused
eventually they will check but we can just sap then grappling hook to the other side of the map which only has a 30 sec cd
from there all we have to do is not get damaged until dampening hits like 60-70%
at which point their healer is useless so it's basically a 2v1
and we have vanish + cloak with pvp talent for full reset every 2 min
it's like playing hide and seek
until the dampening meter hits the point of no return
and they become toast

[simple rock]

they specifically stated that their intent was for pve items to not be optimal in pvp

[mild thunder]

i dont think this really ever applies to legendaries tho

at least it never has

[simple rock]

it's just about how you acquire them

every player could get SL legendaries

and they were the focal point of the xpac gameplay wise

[lucid walrus]

sometimes it surprises me that i don't see this played to the tune of >60% damp considering how weak eye is

[simple rock]

but having to farm mythic (aka buying boosts) is really lame

[mild thunder]

you dont have to farm mythic

at all

just do a weekly lfr, normal/heroic if you can be bothered and that's that

you're never going to be hardstuck because you dont have the legendary, it's just a boost if you do get it

[simple rock]

oh someone told me the ilvl is lower depending on the difficulty

anyways I still think any pve item being bis in a "competitive" game mode is really bad game design

[mild thunder]

nah it's all the same

the only thing you get from raid is the quest item to start the chain

[simple rock]

yea if you can just farm lfr that's coll then

cool

[mild thunder]

the drop-rate increases with difficulty

[simple rock]

I see

[mild thunder]

but not by much, and there's bad luck protection anyway

[bronze crystal]

what is the best specs for arms pvp

[muted surge]

Arms

[mild thunder]

arms pvp is usually the best for arms pvp, but sometimes i think some people actually run arms pvp instead for arms pvp

arms pvp has a lot of variety

[bronze crystal]

HAHA

oh i meant stats for arms

[mild thunder]

[glass orchid]

Got leggo today on my 5th warrior

I’m ready to terrorise 1800

After doing another 7 superblooms lmfao

[fossil mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/congrats-leonardo-dicaprio-fireworks-the-great-gatsby-old-sport-gif-14731521

[past jolt]

I’ve faced ppl with it, looks very tame tbh

The effect that is, only 2-3% of the peoples overall, the weapon dmg probably helps out a bit more

[sleek wave]

Wait u can get weapon leggo via superbloom?

[sleek wave]

I miss kyrian might

I mean its still in game just such a talent waste ig

[thick reef]

bois fresh warrior. Coming from Ret and Mage arcane/frost background which is best big kill pressure right now? Fury or Arms? Looking for the zugzug

[mild thunder]

what a massive step-down in fun from arcane > arms

rip

fury is bad, very bad

play arms

[sage raptor]

Lol

[thick reef]

@mild thunder Learning new classes is fun man. Also is that pretty much community consensus that arms is better? Is this kill pressure or are you talking about fun playing it?

[mild thunder]

both

[glad coral]

long shot but any wotlk pvp discords for eu about?

[mild thunder]

arms does literally everything better

[magic wing]

Fury is more fun respectfully

Arms you spin 50% of the time

Beyblade spec

[sage raptor]

The uptime is insanely high really

You can take breaks during arenas

[magic wing]

Makes it good against cc but kinda passive and boring

[latent hazel]

game is p dead

[mild thunder]

afk vs mindless spam

take your pick

[sage raptor]

Mindless spam 🤤🤤🤤🤤🥰🥰🥰🥰

[river walrus]

Fury playstyle is more fun and fast pace, arms is definitely better if you want to be competitive

I am playing arms to push but I find it quite boring
When I am looking for fun I play my fury warrior

[pine ingot]

mag'har orc or orc?

[fickle forge]

Orc

[pine ingot]

or it doesnt matter that much

[fickle forge]

Orc

[teal hedge]

Orc stronger

[glad coral]

really? how dead

[teal hedge]

Just a straight up lie?

Wotlk has a pretty solid population?

[glad coral]

for pvp?

[teal hedge]

That, I'm more unsure about

[glad coral]

I want to play it but dont know a soul that plays it so

kinda dont wanna play solo lol

[plush summit]

Whats wotlk?

i just started playing a few days ago

[glad coral]

second wow expansion from the past

[mild thunder]

pvp population is struggling but alive (same as usual)

elsewhere the game is nowhere near dead

people have been crying about wow being dead since wow was born, it's just white noise

[pine ingot]

which one to be extra zug?

[glad coral]

ah I see, I was hoping to get into the arena side of it, worth it?

[mild thunder]

yes

shuffle is good place to start, just queue up and do something while you wait 15-20 minutes

probs best to wait a month or two for 3s to inflate a bit more

[glad coral]

any idea on the rating worth? Like 2.2.. is that more like challenger now? lol

Itll take me that long to level 😂

[mild thunder]

assuming you're a reasonably good gamer in general, and put in a reasonable amount of time learning and actually trying to improve, 2.2 is doable in your first or second season

but if you're new to the game and only queue like 2-3 shuffles per week, you're probably gonna struggle to climb

[glad coral]

im ex glad but that level of standard for me is long gone haha

[mild thunder]

what season were you glad?

or xpac

[glad coral]

uhh.. tbc, wotlk, legion, bfa

[mild thunder]

tbc and wotlk glad is probably completely meaningless now, but if you were glad in legion and bfa you'll probably be fine

just gotta un-rust

[glad coral]

😂 yeah no doubt

I was younger then, being 32 im slow now haha

[mild thunder]

it gets like that

@teal hedge we boomering

[teal hedge]

Yeah I'm 37

[glad coral]

😂

I struggle to get out of diamond in overwatch now

if only id played sooner

[grand scaffold]

gnome

but between the 2 orc is best

[compact oak]

Does retail Warrior feel very different in PvP than SoD Warrior? I.e. if I like retail Warrior PvP, would I most likely also like SoD Warrior PvP?

[violet fossil]

it’s extremely different

[cosmic vapor]

[cosmic vapor]

yes. for instance, gnomes arms wars are meta in arenas atm. cuz of all the goddamn roots in caster lobbies

that being said i play orc fury war so

[fallen estuary]

I see your name and all i see is red

[teal hedge]

I see your stupid face and all I see is ugly ‼️

I am so sorry that was uncalled for

[calm lichen]

Looking for a person to guest on my podcast and talk about Arms or Fury in PVP (primarily DF). DMs open.

[fallen estuary]

Well im a caterpillar with stage 55 terminal lung cancer

[teal hedge]

^Vouch

[fallen estuary]

Sign me up

@calm lichen

Gotta drive home brb

[teal hedge]

I bet you drive something real fucked up like a Honda Accord

[fallen estuary]

Bzzzzt wrong

I drive a kia spectra manual

The peak of korean technology

[teal hedge]

What is korean?

[fallen estuary]

Idk a food

[teal hedge]

Okay

I personally like SAAB. but I haven't a license yet

Very best of swedish car tech

[fallen estuary]

Honda accord. Dawg you calling me a single mother with bad credit with nearly 60k in student loan debt

[teal hedge]

It's the most common car in the United States

[fallen estuary]

Yea and the ones driving it is 1-3 a criminal, single mother, or someone with intense debt. Honda accord is just as bad as a nissan altima

[calm lichen]

Check your DMs

[fallen estuary]

@sharp meteor theres the suspect

tazer TAZER

[sharp meteor]

Hmm?

[calm lichen]

Dab recommended I contact you about my podcast. See my post above

Never had a prot on the show before...

Mind if I DM you @sharp meteor ?

[sharp meteor]

Oh, I see.

I never mind chatting about stuff on here but I'm not sure a podcast would be my cup of tea.

Thanks, though. 😁

[calm lichen]

Okay.
That's unfortunate though.

I was getting excited thinking of talking about Prot

[calm lichen]

It you change your mind, my DMs are open

[sharp meteor]

Sure thing.

[violet fossil]

@limber relic maybe you?

[ruby temple]

I'll do it. I'm not rank 1 but I sleep with a gorehowl body pillow so I think I'm qualified.

[fallen estuary]

sorry we only approve of the quality warriors who have molding food on their floors and have certified hood classic crack pipes they huff before every match

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-omIk4tmtoI

[limber relic]

Wat

[violet fossil]

their podcast

[mild thunder]

the poddy C bro

[limber relic]

Dafuq

Ty but noty

2busy with my stream.

Man reached 1500 followers tonight and stil in disbelief 🥲

[thick reef]

Is there anything useful we can do with flightstones for PvP? I am capped with them and don't want to keep grinding world quests if I can't gather more so what would I use it for? The only thing I know I can use them for is the upgrade my PvP gear with PvE stats. Is that the only thing I can use them for?

[mint pulsar]

You use 250 of em to convert 2 splinters into 1 spark as well but thats about it for us pvpers

[final dock]

Is there a world where you're playing WW/Arms in 3s and you play Spear of Bastion like a pseudo Druid Vortex or is the damage loss too much?

[mild thunder]

if you're looking to seriously push? not really.
if you're just having fun or testing things out, sure

[final dock]

We're looking to push but we'd be starting at 0 CR so I doubt that spear will be our biggest issue haha

[mild thunder]

yea just mess around with it then, no harm playing around 🙂

[final dock]

tyty ❤️

[mild thunder]

np

[ruby temple]

In shuffle even tho spear is dog it'll still spook out a defensive and trinket from a caster in opener if you want to use it for the comedy aspect

[hot solstice]

love sub rogues: watching my hp slowly drop to 50% in first 5 seconds of his go thinking "I am ok, no need to trinket" just to get 50%-0% in last 1-2 sec of his stunlock

[rare oak]

I hope they buff spear a little so its actually used when the small patch drops

I remember why I switched to fury, arms feels kind of meh

Unfortunately I don't feel like spamming my keyboard like im playing in a band

[calm lichen]

Unfortunate

[calm lichen]

That's awesome! Grats!

[final dock]

Was asking for my DPS (I'm the healer) since they'll never look for info, they'll just ask me to ask lmao. If I played Warrior, I would always play Spear, even if it's bad.

[fallen estuary]

Sure rock spear but expect the warrior to do shit damage by not picking up roar with that bleed talent for a easiliy avoidable snare on a 2 min cd

[pure hornet]

Happy new year everone

[dapper ore]

happy new year. i am kinda new to arms and ive been having a lot of trouble puting any meaningful pressure on dic priests, seem like the have a ton of instants that they will never OOM on

[fallen estuary]

so when are we going to do a skyhold pvp game of among us

[rapid shore]

👍

[lean burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-aware-twitch-forsen-emote-gif-25354609

[pure hornet]

😂❤️

[magic wing]

I only celebrate reset day and new patches

[tulip pagoda]

any advice for beating bm hunter and restro druid in 2s?

[grand scaffold]

happy new years boys

[scarlet barn]

To you too lad

[fallen estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-cat-insane-cat-help-my-cat-is-insane-help-my-cat-cat-gif-21688581

cant wait to try and sleep during the warzone outside in 6 hours

also happy new year! cant wait to pay more taxes next year!

[wheat jay]

blm protests outside?

[fallen estuary]

i live in the middle of nowhere but somehow close enough to people with fireworks lmao

[tribal wedge]

happy new year to my fellow warriors and also to the surv squad

[fallen estuary]

nah i havent gotten a brick through my window

[wheat jay]

yet

[fallen estuary]

yet

[mild thunder]

happy new year o7

[scarlet barn]

@wheat jay kek , protests

[teal hedge]

Dude

I have had one of the new years of all time

Spent several hours handling drunks, then calling ambulance after said drunks got alcohol poisoning

Swag style

Should've spent new years on the ladder 😎

[dapper ore]

How do you guys deal with disarm? Intimidate?

[pure hornet]

I disarm them

Then make the kill

Or intimidate them, and make them hitpoints to 0

Now for real intimidate you can zerk shout, and on disarm i tuderclap or pierce howl or thunder roar,

Happy new year all, happy new year Gala/all

[mild thunder]

happy new year, mate

[pure hornet]

❤️

[sharp meteor]

I'm not sure I'd fear a disarm unless it's to prevent you from parrying.

[dapper ore]

Ok I just often get disarmed right after I smash on my go so I can't put as much pressure on

[sharp meteor]

And if you tilt fear then you get even less pressure out.

Just press clap or maybe piercing and walk away.

Can also stun them into smash then spin as it's ending and hopefully eating their disarm that way.

[mild thunder]

glare at them menacingly for maximum impact

[boreal stone]

You should message magnusz

[ruby heron]

healers always complaining about my ignore pain usage. do i need to macro with overpower or how is the correct usage? i am pressing it when i get focused by enemies.

[bright wadi]

whats the go to 2v2 build at the moment, BS?

[wary dragon]

Fury actually so much more fun than arms in pvp

[lethal kestrel]

any good spell reflect wa/macro?

[karmic helm]

sup fellas, got a question being new to warrior. in a 1v1 duel scenario, does a fury warrior have a chance against a sub rogue that plays well? feels impossible

[quaint ruin]

Smash and insta press avatar and u wont

[mild thunder]

no lol

[karmic helm]

thought i was taking crazy pills, a 2400 rogue said i had a chance and flamed me. then a friend who is a rogue main also said that lol

[bright kraken]

When should I start trying to push?
Majority PVE player, hit 1.8k on dk in S1 and S2 and 1.6k on WW, enh and surv last season
I wanna hit 2.1k and try to get to 2.4k (probably on hunter for the most mogs)
or warrior + DH

[mild thunder]

they're either trolling you or very, very dumb

[grand scaffold]

yup

imagine if it was viable

life would be so amazing

[grand scaffold]

yeah

i never lose vs them

its just a matter of rotation enraged regen and trinket every 1 min

because thats how often their huge dmg is

you spec into second wind for when they reset

it gets significantly easier

and you dont really ever come out of d stance

save fear for evasion

so that they cant hit you for free while you cant heal

[deft yoke]

Didnt play warrior for awhile can anyone tell me that basic rotation?
Just in what order you use roar,colossus smash, avatar etc?

[river walrus]

Just type on YouTube for pvp guides. I know there is a bunch for this season

[dapper ore]

Smash, ava, trink/roar, Mort, clap, Skull, BS

[fallen estuary]

Thats if you actually can reach something

[fickle forge]

Now

If you peaked 1.8k, you'll need the practice if you wanna go 2.4k

[bright kraken]

Any other info that would be worth knowing? Currently pushing on monk since I figure it'll be easier to push that and funnel the honour to my war

poggiesss

[fickle forge]

If you want all the 2.4k mogs, then warr or hunter is the way for everything but glaives

[bright kraken]

Yeah, that's why I chose warrior x3

[fickle forge]

Ye best of luck, you're prob gonna have to grind a gigaton of games for it

[teal hedge]

Just a question, how do you goons stay commited to a single spec, especially with warrior considering the solo queue times?

[wheat jay]

i play actual 2s or 3s

or play other games in the background lol

[bright kraken]

Give me an estimation so I can pretend I'm mentally prepared

[wheat jay]

took me 1400 games to get glad

starting as 0 xp survi, with two glads basically teaching me to play the game

BUT i played DOGSHIT comp

play meta and its much faster xD

[fickle forge]

What Artji said, he got coached from the ground up 😎👍

[lavish quest]

And now he's a fotm reroller. So proud 🥹

[fickle forge]

I wouldn't have let that one slide @wheat jay

[wheat jay]

i mean

he's not rly wrong lol

rolled for fun, it just happened to be meta

[lavish quest]

Rarely am

Gotta troll till the end of time tho

Coping with working this fine new year

[boreal stone]

Unhinged into non pet classes and rogue mage, hurricane into pet classes. Always play double blade storm

[boreal stone]

Don’t macro ignore pain, use it when you have excess rage (during bladestorm for example) and when you’re getting hit a lot. Be sure to use d stance more too

[boreal stone]

If you’re after weapon mogs, you should play warrior. They can learn everything but warglaives

[lavish quest]

And wands

But who cares about those

[cosmic vapor]

[grand scaffold]

there should not be a draw mechanic

we killed their dps first

and got a draw

[grand scaffold]

you mean to tell me

mw gets

-0 cr

for going 0-6

but i get -72

[mild thunder]

he’s 2100 versing 2500s

obviously he won’t lose anything

[mild thunder]

or just play w/e to 2400 and buy all the mogs to store in your bank until 11.0

[grand scaffold]

dude

hes a healer

the mmr is separate

he had same mmr as the hpal

[mild thunder]

yea? i’m talking cr

[grand scaffold]

so how is he losing 0

?

[violet fossil]

healer life

they could go 6-0 and not gain any rating either

[grand scaffold]

bruh the other fool got +66

😂

[wheat jay]

ye because of mmr

what is there to not understand

[lavish quest]

They trying to fix healer queues, let em cook 😂

[sleek wave]

he mad smh

and im hardstuck what is with these entitled people today

[wheat jay]

Smh stop botting

[sleek wave]

was so close to 2.1 now im 1.9k 😢

[lavish quest]

All asians have kickbot, didn't you know?

[open ridge]

why do they think its kickbot?

[wheat jay]

Cuz they suck ass and need an excuse

[open ridge]

I means what does kickbot actually do?

[violet fossil]

it kicks for u

[open ridge]

sry, is it just kicking that hard now in 2.1k level that they think its bot?

it is a compliement usually when someone thinks you are using bot while you aren't actually. thats why I think kickbot must do something unusual we can't do normally

[mild thunder]

BiS racial trait tbh

+10 to reflexes (only works in video games and ping pong)

[wheat jay]

-10 to size tho

[teal hedge]

+10 succeptability to racism :(

[wheat jay]

Why would you be Asian towards asians

Asian girls are hot af

[violet fossil]

+10 to intelligence

[wheat jay]

There's other groups that are more fun to be racist towards ngl

[elder island]

https://tenor.com/view/you-cant-do-that-kim-jong-un-north-korea-not-allowed-prohibited-gif-16384525

[teal hedge]

Dude, we had an asian girl at the function and this guy just starts talking about eating dogs and heiling

He almost got beat up

[wheat jay]

Lmao

Yo dude beat up the guy and get the chick

Killing two birds with one stone

[teal hedge]

Two of the other guests were plotting to trip and beat him up while he was drunk lmao

[wheat jay]

Ayo my man

Asian girls with black hair are the best

[teal hedge]

Polish girls not even cutting it?

[wheat jay]

Polish girls are good

Very good

[violet fossil]

I melt

[wheat jay]

But there's just something about how asian chicks look that's just the best

[violet fossil]

have you seen that Korean natural model paegent thing

omfg

[wheat jay]

Japanese and south korean

OH MY LORD

Tho south korean accent is fucking horror xD

[violet fossil]

lol

I love an asian latina

it does things to me

[teal hedge]

Mein gott

[wheat jay]

Jesus

[lavish quest]

What I'm gathering from this at least the earlier bit, is gnomes are Asians, or Asians are gnomes. One of the two

[wheat jay]

We're reaching dangerous levels here

[fickle sage]

Is fury viable in arenas?

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/nods-yes-not-wrong-its-true-story-valid-point-gif-14782869

[violet fossil]

should i link it here

or naw

[teal hedge]

Most people are gnomes tbj

*tbh

[violet fossil]

@wheat jay I’ll send to you

since you’re a man of taste

[teal hedge]

If you're below 6'4 you are a gnome ‼️

[mild thunder]

man wtf is happening in here

this is why pvp aint getting a stormforged

[teal hedge]

it's rigged

trust

[violet fossil]

didn’t you get banned like 69 times

[mild thunder]

yea and every time i get banned i visit your mum

[lavish quest]

Coming from the guy going for it then got banned after

[lavish quest]

If I'm exactly 6'4", am I a dwarf?

[wheat jay]

I mean we're not all ferals, some of use like women

[violet fossil]

69

[teal hedge]

Then you're perfect kissing height

[violet fossil]

I’m 6’0

[mild thunder]

are dh players old enough to talk to women?

[lavish quest]

For kissing what? O.o

[teal hedge]

DAMN

Also I just got hit with the rawest of lines today

I got called "fat but proportional"

[lavish quest]

DH player goes up to a woman to talk to her and gets hit with:
"You do not have that skill."

[teal hedge]

What the hell does it mean

[lavish quest]

Complicated way of saying u fat

My best guess

[violet fossil]

means you carry your weight well

[teal hedge]

Yeah cuz

I got a belly and I got moobs

Yet my forearm is thicker than my friends neck

[mild thunder]

moobs or gyno?

[teal hedge]

Moobs

At least that's what I think

Been fat since I was like, 12?

[wheat jay]

@violet fossil

[lavish quest]

How heavy you be?

[teal hedge]

Last I checked 157 kgs

[wheat jay]

Sheesh you're chonky

[teal hedge]

Which is 346 pounds

But I'm also 6'4, trust

[lavish quest]

Had to convert that to american

But damn

[teal hedge]

Yerr, I was lifting earlier this year and converting fat into muscle

[wheat jay]

6'4 160kg is still chonky

[lavish quest]

I'm 6'4 too, but the heaviest I got was like 260

Lbs that is

[teal hedge]

But had to drop it after my crohn's started flaring up B)

[lavish quest]

Now I float at about 200

[mild thunder]

americans need to stop with this made up lbs nonsense

[wheat jay]

Im like 186cm and 95kg

[teal hedge]

Goal weight would be like, 194 cm and 110 kg?

Again, got a big frame so I can weigh a lot comfortably

[lavish quest]

I agree with you, but it's what I was raised with 😞

[teal hedge]

It's pretty easy, just do kg x 2,23

[lavish quest]

Did the conversions. My heaviest is 118 kgs. Now float about 91 kgs.

[teal hedge]

Had som real solid stats in the gym as well

Got up to 70 kg / 154 lbs x 4 on the bench going from April to August.

[sleek wave]

bro i got -20 this is unfair

[wheat jay]

F

[silent torrent]

Whats everyone runnin arms or fury for mostly pve w a little world pvp involved? Arms has better defensives i am reading

[violet fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/bros-bro-high-five-dillon-duke-gif-12955092

[sleek wave]

Has anyone noticed that the faster the queue the unbalance mmr it gets?

yes dont notice my -200 mmr

[teal hedge]

MMR is kinda messy, especially with healers

[sleek wave]

but i got like 3x low dps atm seems weird

[fallen estuary]

soemethings up with mmr lmao

i just had 2 b2b games and my mmr was WAY higher than others

i was 2k mmr put into a 1900 lobby that i won and i got fucking nothing from it

and the one i was just in someone left but i lost nothing after losing the first 2 rounds

lost no mmr or cr like wtfs going on

[nimble osprey]

nobody is queuing

[fallen estuary]

well they def arent queing now after i made them lose like 40 pts lmao

while i get nothing

[fallen estuary]

smh ofc you ask them if they got moobs

[fallen estuary]

holy shit ai is fucking awesome LMAO

[teal hedge]

Dabdaddy this image sucks

I tried bings ai once and it was kinda shit

I made this

Oh and this

But the novelty has worn off

[fallen estuary]

i question whatthe fuck you inserted into the bar to get that

[timber fractal]

Hey y'all, I wanted to give pvp a try with arenas. Is fury or arms more viable? How do you recommend getting started gear wise?

[fallen estuary]

mr president

its a honor

[teal hedge]

Oh my god Mr. Obama

[teal hedge]

Arms is the stronger spec, and getting gear is actually very easy right now!

[fallen estuary]

get on your knees before a missile ends up blowing you up

@teal hedge

[teal hedge]

Run battlegrounds for honour gear and then farm conquest, do weeklies and try to get your vault for year glad gear and you'll be solid!

[teal hedge]

Oh my fucking god the bottom right

[fallen estuary]

yeae LMAO

[teal hedge]

Jesus dude

Why is it like this

[fallen estuary]

pitbulls LMAO

HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHA

[teal hedge]

WHY IS THERE A CAMERA

[fallen estuary]

holy shit

legit fury warriors

[teal hedge]

This AI shit doesn't understand my vision

This is why we need visual artists

[mild thunder]

hell yea

[fallen estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/alien-dance-party-gif-15755697

wow im almost back up to 2.1

temendously shitty lobbies but getting there

from 2 matches where i 6-6ed and got 0 to lobbies with healers dropping after the first loss like lmfao holy shit its annoyin

[bronze crystal]

i feel im just not getting better i was at 1750 then back down to 1550 from some bad lobbies

[fallen estuary]

lower MMR lobbies like the one you are in is filled with people that make huge mistakes, itll be easy climbing out of that. but in 2ks dropping from 2175 to 1922 dude to healers leaving after first loss and dps not doing anything to help me reach my target/use utility to assist me is pretty brutal.

youll ping pong pretty hard in this gamemode

but atleast i know i can just do 2s and easily climb to 2ks + within a day with a good healer so if any healer wants some rewards hmu lol

[river walrus]

As a frost dk main and warrior main alt I test to that. I type in chat "let me grip blind stun first" and the warrior at low mmr either bladestorm my blind and screw up my goes or he puts people in stun DR before I can land grip stun

Not exclusive to warriors but in general people in low MMR always making huge mistakes, not really doing at least minimal thinking

Was playing warrior the other day and had to watch ret pally chasing a mw monk around the map all round instead of cleaving their dps with me

SS is wild

[grand scaffold]

dude its drunk season

even im not pushing hard

play an alt is best advice

prob until 2 more days pass

[urban skiff]

I always hesitate to give out instructions/tactics because I worry they'll use that knowledge against me for 4 games they're against me.

[urban skiff]

every night is drunk night

[grand scaffold]

😂

nah fr tho between Christmas and new years people get fucked up

[urban skiff]

Took week between off and this week as well

Only got 4 days without kids in the day time so I'm getting day drunk

[grand scaffold]

😂

fair enough

[scarlet barn]

Day drunk smh

[teal hedge]

Hate drunks

Though I like drinking

Yummy

[latent hazel]

alchohol is bad for gains

[muted surge]

alcohol is the best for gains

[latent hazel]

Alcohol inhibits protein synthesis

[teal hedge]

Yeah, not working out atm so it isn't really an issue rn

Been having an inflammation in my intestines for a solid year now

It's brutal

[muted surge]

well theres a differnce between being an alcoholic and normal drinking :D

[teal hedge]

Obh yeah

I drink like, 6-7 times a year?

And when I drink, I use da formula

I stick within 0,03 and 0,12 BAC and ride it out B)

[river walrus]

Hahahaha

[teal hedge]

What's your drink of choice?

Bet it's something like whisky

[violet fossil]

whiskey for me

[teal hedge]

I like ciders and sweeter drinks

or grogs

[violet fossil]

I did try mead

[teal hedge]

MEAD

So good

Love mead

[violet fossil]

which is kinda like wine right?

[teal hedge]

Yeah!

Honey wine

These are amazing

It's a finnish mixed drink

Gin and grapefruit-soda

Absolutely amazing

[teal hedge]

My tastebuds aren't used to whiskey yet

[violet fossil]

it takes a min

[teal hedge]

Mostly just hurts lol

[violet fossil]

like i can’t really drink beer

nasty

[teal hedge]

Beer can be good, but it makes me bloated

[violet fossil]

I’ve only liked this beer chelada type has mango flavor

[teal hedge]

Smirnoff ice is also very nice

Again, I like pre-mixed stuff

But some groggs are nice as well

Liquor 43, milk and grenadine goes hard

[violet fossil]

i actually like it lol

[teal hedge]

This one looks crazy

[violet fossil]

And i hate beer

[teal hedge]

Also who is ur profile picture?

[violet fossil]

lol

was a meme

[teal hedge]

Ah

[teal hedge]

The fury

[violet fossil]

trying to finish a test last minute

lmfao it’s so old omg

[teal hedge]

THE IMPACT FONT

[elfin surge]

the fuck is going on here

[rough raven]

I had some people getting mad at me in solo and telling me to "wall"... what is "wall"?

I was being locked down in CC, so if they mean to use LoS... kinda difficult...

Do they mean ignore pain? Because I was using that when I could.

I'm legit wondering because if I'm doing something wrong, I want to know. If there's a macro or something I should be using to defend myself when I'm trapped.

I still won the solo 4/6 rounds.

I'm guessing they meant die by the sword, all I can think of, in which case I just got locked and the other team was decent enough to keep little stuns on me and just wasted me before I could get out of a stun and pop it

[teal hedge]

They're telling you to use your defensives

Do you have your stance bound=

?

[rough raven]

Yeah, it was just the other team worked well together and had me locked.

[teal hedge]

Generally speaking, dps players are supposed to exhaust their defensive cds before the healers.

Also supposed to trinket before the healers, if possible.

[rough raven]

If I'm being targeted, I'll switch over, and if I can, I'll pop die by the sword, but they just had me stunned

[teal hedge]

In that case you gotta predict it

Otherwise you're forced to trinket

But if your healer didn't exhaust his cds, it's 100% on him

[elfin surge]

reply with "heals?"

[teal hedge]

Call him a dog

That's what my eastern european dps players do

[rough raven]

Damn. I'm at 1787, and just had a 3-3 game, but no rating increase. 😢

So close to 1800.

[urban skiff]

Depends on the time of day: mead, IKEA's glögg, cheap rum in cola, one of the many bottles of port/red wine i got as a christmas present from various subcontractors trying to bribe me at work

[lavish quest]

Wall = specifically your big defensive.

As arms, that's die by the sword aka parry.

As fury, enraged regen.
As say lock it's their unending resolve thing

Etc etc etc

[grand scaffold]

finally 2300 in 3s

[wheat jay]

First glad incoming?

[grand scaffold]

i hope so

would be nice

last season i missed it by 28 wins

[wheat jay]

Damn

[grand scaffold]

fr got ditched

lol

[pure hornet]

Mud has allmost 6 k haste.. and seifcham stacks mastery. Witch is better?

[teal hedge]

Depends on which you prefer

But they're interchangeable

[grand scaffold]

they are both good

i play 30% haste with the rest mastery

[teal hedge]

Best possible setup is running as low haste as you can manage and then going mastery

[grand scaffold]

its legit do you like big hits or more hits

[teal hedge]

It is slightly stronger

[grand scaffold]

true

but i like my bleeds ticking a lot

[teal hedge]

Yeah, same!

[grand scaffold]

ide say into dks and demo haste is much better

[teal hedge]

Big haste baybee

[grand scaffold]

just bc you have so many execute procs from that

[pure hornet]

How low vers can i go? Is 5500 too low?

[grand scaffold]

idk

30%

you dont want higher

or lower

[grand scaffold]

yup

later when conq gets uncapped

i will experiment with 20% haste

[pure hornet]

Into frost mage haste isnt a waste? Cant catch that guy

[violet fossil]

doesn’t feel too bad

[grand scaffold]

thats when mastery is much better

[teal hedge]

I've gone from wielding axes in game to wielding an axe irl

Holy balls it sounds so good

[grand scaffold]

lol

[teal hedge]

I am become indie music player

[lavish quest]

Do we use execute procs over MS now because of the tier or does MS take prio still?

[fallen estuary]

Uhh 35% haste with 30% mastery is legit powerful

The dot ticks from skullsplitter are just brutal with a sharpen

Rock yourself a wafting and get a free 15% haste bonus and watch their team just rot away

[teal hedge]

SKULLSPLITTER

Is it still a thing?

[lavish quest]

You'd have to run skullsplitter tho

And no

[teal hedge]

Skullsplitter was sick

[fallen estuary]

Its actually pretty good

[teal hedge]

I loved it, even when it got nerfed to 60%

[fallen estuary]

You just literally spam execute during it

Rend and DW proc for like 0.8 every tick while its up

Im 2100 with skullsplitter, it is useful when used right

It actually eats mages no joke

[lavish quest]

They stand still for you?

Weird

[fallen estuary]

Yea they do these little breakdance segments as they 100-0 me with a frost bomb

[urban skiff]

If I go straight from fury to arms with full mastery gear, how screwed am i?

[grand scaffold]

how much haste do you have?

[urban skiff]

uh

20%

[fallen estuary]

20% is the feel good global area so idk but 30% haste is the best rn since were the new killur kats

[urban skiff]

killur kats?

[fallen estuary]

Feral druids

[fossil mortar]

Just me, or do fury warrior lack killing power in BGs?

[mild thunder]

feral doesnt stack haste

actually you kinda do, but only for cyclones

and arms stacking haste has nothing to do with being bleed-based, it's just the way the damage profile works right now. haste gives you more globals, which means more mortal strikes and overpowers, which means more mortal strike and overpower resets. you're not wasting globals on "filler" abilities like slam, so sperging as many globals as possible is more valuable

[vapid tartan]

Can def kill but you rely on setting up cc with team a bit more than arms

[past jolt]

I mean it interacting with DW and rends is definitely part of why it’s good

[mild thunder]

mastery also buffs rend and thunderous roar. deep wounds is still a very small portion of your damage

[past jolt]

Then I’m doing it all wrong cause that shits my top 3 all the time

P sure whenever I watch laros it’s his top 3 too

[mild thunder]

if you’re versing pet specs and are padding with warbreaker, thunder clap and bladestorm, sure

if your deep wounds is the bulk of your damage in single-target, yes you’re playing it wrong

[past jolt]

Rend and deep wounds are usually a lot of dmg

[mild thunder]

if you mean like a collective 20-30%, yea. again, rend is also buffed by mastery. it’s not the major reason haste is good

[past jolt]

If you don’t think haste is a big deal for bleeds why do you think assa takes haste when it’s gcd locked @ 1s

You said it was negligible

[mild thunder]

it doesn’t lol

haste is the absolute worst stat for assa

[past jolt]

It used to

[mild thunder]

and the only reason it’s good for feral is cyclone

who cares about “used to”

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-lizard-me-when-i-lie-lizard-little-puss-gif-27004064

[past jolt]

( Pawn: v1: "Assassination DF": Class=Rogue, Spec=Assassination, Agility=2.44, Ap=1.94, CritRating=0.80, HasteRating=0.76, MasteryRating=0.85, Versatility=0.43, Dps=10.34, OffHandDps=1.29 )

Looks like haste is fairly close to the rest…

[mild thunder]

what an interesting way of saying it’s worse than all the other stats

pvp assa rogues on the left, pve on the right

[past jolt]

Bruh

You said it has negligible impact on bleeds, im simply saying that it’s a good bonus from the stat. I feel like you’re talking like an authority bc you have a pinned post in here

And no offense but unless you’re laros or someone like that you’re not an authority so stfu haha

[mild thunder]

i said mastery also buffs rend and roar, your major bleeds and that bleeds aren’t the major reason behind wanting to stack haste. it’s just the way arms’ damage works right now; lots of resets and ms spam

[mild thunder]

are you laros?

[past jolt]

I mean saying something negligible and saying something is the sole reason you use the stat are two extremes, if you can’t understand what I’m saying then stfu

Plz

And no more pings

[mild thunder]

then don’t ping me first lmao

[mild thunder]

ok yes, to be fair i shouldn’t have said “nothing to do with”, i should have said “very little to do with”. either way, the point stands that you don’t go haste for bleeds

[past jolt]

K

Plz stop ping

[mild thunder]

turn off pings if it upsets you

[fallen estuary]

oh my fucking god lmao put into a ele lobby, 1-6 and into a marks caster lobby and i go 1-6 holy fuck i swear these games are rigged

i go fury and im shredding lobbies

fuck this game lmao

[fickle forge]

Haste is for getting more MS casts out, the actual bulk of your damage

[brazen pewter]

Well haste used to be good for sin because rogue needed energy regen from haste

Now sin can have tea talent picked (energy recovery), haste starts to lose value, the quicker tiks doesn’t add too much to your dmg, it’s a bit sad there are secondaries with lower priority than crit in pvp nowadays

[urban skiff]

hmmm i wonder why

[mild thunder]

are you laros?

[magic wing]

Way better than prot right ?

[urban skiff]

Idk, prot is hella fun in solo bg

And for trolling skirmish too i guess

[magic wing]

In arena Id consider it trolling

And ruining games

[urban skiff]

No games to ruin in skirmish

besides I tend to win

I'm not going to take some random 167k total dmg rogue seriously when he says I throw the game for being prot

when i secure a kill long after he dies

[grand scaffold]

tbh thats exactly why i take haste

is bc of bleeds

i wouldnt play haste if my bleeds didnt tick like crazy

[mild thunder]

sure

but that’s not why haste scales so well for arms

[grand scaffold]

im not saying it is

but if my bleeds didnt go crazy with haste i woudlnt play it

ide just play full mastery for huge hits

[mild thunder]

and you’d lose damage because of it

idk what else to say. haste scales well because you can spam mortal strike so insanely efficiently

not because arms bleeds are so insane (they aren’t)

of all the DoT specs in wow, only one of them stacks haste, and i’m pretty sure it’s just because aff mastery scales poorly after the SL nerfs

[grand scaffold]

not really

if i went full mastery ide hit 250k ms instead of 200k

bladestorm would crank more dmg

ide be significantly better into casters

bc 20% haste and rest mastery is still really strong

ms is roughly a 5 sec cd with cs up

[mild thunder]

you realise you’d hit way less often, right?

[grand scaffold]

doesnt matter bc ide hit for 20% more each time i do

[mild thunder]

it would, because the dps you gain from hitting more with haste outscales the dps gain from hitting harder with mastery

[grand scaffold]

dude

do you know how hard bladestorm hits atm

[mild thunder]

bladestorm would also take longer to spin, meaning that damage is spread over a longer period

[grand scaffold]

by 1 second

so it doesnt matter that much tbh

[mild thunder]

pretty sure base bladestorm is 6 seconds, no? and you get it down to about 4.5, maybe less

[grand scaffold]

mine ticks for about 5 with 30% haste

so if its one more second

to do 20% more dmg

or more

its not that bad

[mild thunder]

so you think bladestorm hitting 20% harder is better than bladestorm doing its original damage 25% faster?

maybe i’m derping out on the math, idk

[grand scaffold]

its 16.7% faster

[mild thunder]

you’re saying bladestorm is a flat 5s?

[grand scaffold]

roughly

i can check after my rogue shuffle

[magic wing]

Rated arena

[grand scaffold]

congrats

[hot solstice]

ty

[bronze crystal]

fuck solo shuffle, takes ages for a pop and i find it hard to win games

[grand scaffold]

what cr and spec you playing

[bronze crystal]

im 1550 was at 1750 and im arms

[grand scaffold]

yeah people at that cr throw so many games its unbelievable

if you just stick it out itll get better

[lavish quest]

He's lying

[fickle forge]

Do more damage

[grand scaffold]

hey

i didnt say it gets good