pvp

[grand scaffold]

and conquest shoulders

[stuck cliff]

Oh I thought it was cause that vergence piece has Crit lol

[grand scaffold]

people only have the crafted helmet because of the starter item which gives an 875 piece for free

nope

between shoulders and helmet which both have crit

helm has better stats

with this build

you swap warbreaker to blunt instruments against caster cleaves or when you cant hit multiple people

it should generally work well

these are pvp talents

swap out the 3rd one for disarm sometimes

ie against melee

that are disarmable

or against mm hunters

[nimble osprey]

I tend to swap sharpen blade for disarm

[grand scaffold]

nope

never ever drop sharpen

its like what makes arms so crazy

50% less healing

in pvp mortal strikes is only 25 by default

[stuck cliff]

Disarm is bad luck for 8 years if you use I heard

Jk but fighting monks is annoying cause it's constant disarms

[grand scaffold]

😂

yeah

thats where double bladestorm comes in

[stuck cliff]

I just stop using blade storm for a while til I see it's used or use it and they don't disarm hopefully a bit into it

[grand scaffold]

bladestorm isnt disarmable

or cc'able

[stuck cliff]

Really

[grand scaffold]

yeah

thats why everybody uses double bladestorm

[stuck cliff]

I feel like I get taken out of it

[grand scaffold]

its garanteed dmg

its not possible

unless you yourself cancel it

[stuck cliff]

Damn dudes just predict my blade storm I guess or something idk

Cause I'll hit it and it gets put on cd with no storm

[grand scaffold]

you cant get taken out of it

unless you cancel it

so you might have some macro which say /cancelaura bladestorm

[violet fossil]

and you can’t cancel it with hurricane

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[stuck cliff]

I don't use macros

[grand scaffold]

what ping do you play on

[stuck cliff]

The only way I can cancel it is clicking buff icon

[grand scaffold]

im on 300 and dont really get cancelled ever

[teal hedge]

14

[grand scaffold]

😂

thats mad

[grand scaffold]

copy my talent build

tell me if it gets cancelled

[stuck cliff]

Are you using tractor daddy's talents ?

Lol

[grand scaffold]

whos that haha

[stuck cliff]

I just copied the top sheet on murloc

[grand scaffold]

nah i make my own talents

[urban skiff]

You have /cancelaura bladestorm in one of your macros if this happens.

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[stuck cliff]

No macros

I have one for my rogue I never use lol

Cold blood and secret technique

[grand scaffold]

its not possible for it to get cancelled by someone else

just double check you dont have any

[grand scaffold]

you might by accident

[grand scaffold]

shatter is awful

wouldnt run that

honed reflexes is trash too

[urban skiff]

Let me just dive into varaibles thing

[stuck cliff]

Yeah I have none at all

[grand scaffold]

get pain and gain

get wild strikes

get rid of 5% movement speed

get 5% leech

[gaunt dune]

I already copied your string XD

[grand scaffold]

the one on the right looks good

😂

[gaunt dune]

I'll try it later to see how it goes, thanks for the tip.

[grand scaffold]

np man

hmu if you need more help

im literally not busy whatsoever

[gaunt dune]

I'll keep it in mind

[grand scaffold]

👍

[gaunt dune]

Although I do have a couple of doubts, is it advisable to use rebound vs casters?

[grand scaffold]

no

its terrible

against casters you use the battlefield commander

you never swap out storm of destruction

and you never swap out sharpen

if you get feral ww

or some melee cleave you cant disarm

you can use safeguard

thats about it

[gaunt dune]

Never changed storm or sharp blade, only the last slot, sometimes used bounce or root with the charge

[grand scaffold]

bounce?

this one?

[gaunt dune]

Yep

[grand scaffold]

also bad

it got nerfed some time ago

[karmic tundra]

how about disarm against melee cleave?

[grand scaffold]

used to be strong once upon a time

[grand scaffold]

anytime you can disarm something

you take disarm

[karmic tundra]

cool

[grand scaffold]

its very strong

[gaunt dune]

In short, I should never change commander, only vs melee when it is necessary to use disarm

[grand scaffold]

yup

or if there is feral ww or some shit like that you take safeguard

just bc its a melee cleave

and disarm does jack shit

[violet fossil]

would you ever run banner for stuff?

[grand scaffold]

not really

before storm of destruction rework i never dropped it

now i never run i

t

[gaunt dune]

in the current meta the anti cc of the banner or even some defensive means nothing

[grand scaffold]

yeah but above all

its just not got the same value as the other talents

[violet fossil]

well with caster meta it’s cc heavy

but yeah it’s hard to justify

instead of running commander

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[violet fossil]

or disarm

[grand scaffold]

commander is just straight up better

safeguard disarm or commander

all better

[violet fossil]

have yall seen that clip of joefernandes struggling on his fury warrior in ss

That had me dying lmao

[grand scaffold]

yeah i dont blame him

that spec is atrocious

[violet fossil]

he was against frost/ele on burning blade map

[grand scaffold]

😂

[violet fossil]

that shit was hilarious

[grand scaffold]

thats the worst possible matchup

aside from double frost

[gaunt dune]

I was forced to use health cry and swords in the opening and they still didn't keep me alive

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[stuck cliff]

Use fireblood too

[grand scaffold]

against caster openers

unless your beating the shit out of them

you really just wanna los them

[gaunt dune]

ye

[grand scaffold]

leap behind a pillar

[violet fossil]

https://youtu.be/_5tQUZTjTjI?si=rJr-lRtg8XeJbk_A

Second clip

Starts at 0:36

[gaunt dune]

hahahah that expression XD

[grand scaffold]

ahahahahahahahaha

this is hilarious

[violet fossil]

Yall gotta watch it im dying again lmfao

[grand scaffold]

no dispels is relatable af

ahahahahahaha

[karmic tundra]

The second dude so toxic, kinda deserves it xD

[gaunt dune]

I'm main dk, and the truth is almost the same

[stuck cliff]

I suck at 3s solo shuffle is cool I wish it was unrated mode to still

Damn that dudes loud lol

[gaunt dune]

Wtf, poor druid and yes, that happens, it has happened to me a lot, one moment you are fine and in half a second you just die

[urban skiff]

Bro needs to play arms instead

Wasting too much rage on the wrong side of the keyboard playing like that

[craggy meteor]

Why did I just loose 100 MMR for a 2-4 loss against people the exact same MMR as me?

My 2nd lobby. Won the first one. A dps goes 6-0 giving me 2-4 but I loose 100 MMR? Seems like a lot? Don't gain 100 MMR for a 6-0 win!

[urban skiff]

do you have a screenshot? They're usually helpful for telling what's wrong

[craggy meteor]

Ah fuck no sorry, I should have got one

Theonly thing I can think is that because I've not played many lobbies yet, maybe it is more spikey?

[gaunt dune]

I think we are all Joe 90% of the ss vs mage

[grand scaffold]

😂

[gaunt dune]

I remember that once a priest preferred to cast mind control than heal, or a pally who was interrupting instead of healing me while I was running away from an affli, interrupted the lock, which I had done with an intimidating scream and f for me...

[grand scaffold]

lol

[urban skiff]

Definitely not. I play to have fun and there's nothing fun about making yourself this angry

[grand scaffold]

ofc there is

joe makes money from us laughing at this shit

😂

[urban skiff]

I had to skip past his section because of his act

I'm happy others can laugh at that but I can't

[grand scaffold]

i just find it hilarious

[gaunt dune]

I also play for fun, but it stops being fun when you're at 2k rating and can't survive against a caster lobby.

[urban skiff]

Accept the unchangeable and change the unacceptable

[gaunt dune]

Or someone dies for no reason 10 seconds into the fight XD

[grand scaffold]

bars

[urban skiff]

Either you're in control and you make the game how you want it, or you're not in control and you shrug

If 2k is where we stop functioning against casters then that's just how it is this time around

Getting angry and screaming won't change it

[stuck cliff]

It'll give you buffs

[urban skiff]

debuffs are also a kind of buff

[gaunt dune]

Well, I am a believer that sometimes you have to vent your anger, I am thinking of buying a punching bag, for every time I go up to 2k in my main I will hit the bag 10 times, when this season is up, I think I will be the new one Rocky or Ivan Drago

[grand scaffold]

buy a dumbell set instead

just do a few reps when you get tilted

its remarkably resetting

atleast for me

[gaunt dune]

I hadn't thought about it, I actually have a pair of dumbbells, but every time I see a magician in the lobby I feel like cheems

And after it ends I say to myself "it can't be"

[grand scaffold]

oof

[violet fossil]

or just beat ya meat

[teal hedge]

Tip from a pro

Helps reduce salt

[gaunt dune]

Maybe I should give up on my goal of getting 2100 in ss, I only do these things for the elite sets XD and now I just need to get the war helm

[teal hedge]

Keeps you calm, locked in

[violet fossil]

it’s super early bud

[teal hedge]

Nah, just stick with it and you'll improve and it'll feel much better, too!

[violet fossil]

r1s were literally queing into each other at 2.1k

[teal hedge]

Also, having weights at home has gotta be super nice

[violet fossil]

at some point

so just stick with it and improve you’ll get there

[gaunt dune]

I came from playing uh dk in the early season, season 2, I was stuck at 1600 for two months, I think I didn't die of rage, thank God

hahaha

[teal hedge]

I started with arms but now I main disc

[grand scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/chad-monke-gif-20835999

[grand scaffold]

record a game when youre losing

and send it

ill review it np

[teal hedge]

Yeah, we got a video-gameplay-review channel

[grand scaffold]

exactly

[gaunt dune]

I'm main dk, I've been stuck between 1970 and 2040 for several weeks XD
I think I should take it easy, however I see that I already have almost all the gear and I can't move forward, I get the feeling that I won't be able to make it.

[violet fossil]

yeah take it easy for a min

[teal hedge]

You're arms, right?

[gaunt dune]

Yep

[violet fossil]

I main unholy too

[teal hedge]

Well, compared to unholy, it has a LOT of utility

But does it have the same raw damage?

[grand scaffold]

arms?

[teal hedge]

Yeah

[grand scaffold]

no

[teal hedge]

I know the spec chugs, but does it chug as much?

[grand scaffold]

arms smashes the shit out of dk's

[violet fossil]

chugs alot

[grand scaffold]

and has more bad matchups

[violet fossil]

arms has better burst damage

[grand scaffold]

eh

[teal hedge]

Interesting

[violet fossil]

unholy has better sustain

[grand scaffold]

yeah

but overall unholy dmg tops by a lot

its like dh dmg

just cleave instead of single target

[violet fossil]

yeah it will

well it kinda depends

[gaunt dune]

In fact the damage is similar in my opinion, however the big difference is that with dk I can attack from a distance, with war the magicians take me as stupid, roots, cc and things like that and I lose activity time

[grand scaffold]

like doing max dmg i came #2 in a lobby

did 48m

[violet fossil]

Cause we can pad a lot

[grand scaffold]

unholy dk did 58m

[teal hedge]

Hamstring is your best friend

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[violet fossil]

also

necro wound healing absorb counts towards the damage boards

[grand scaffold]

never knew that

you sure about that?

i never see it on details

[violet fossil]

yeah

at least on the endgame

board

not sure about details

[gaunt dune]

Yep, but the traslation

[grand scaffold]

chains of ice

https://tenor.com/view/frozone-slide-glide-board-freeze-gif-10880200

[gaunt dune]

nw I think it is taken into account as healing, not as damage.

[violet fossil]

it does both

not sure why for damage though

[gaunt dune]

With dk I have better control of the mages, however most of the time someone else ends up dying, I hug the pillar on many occasions and my partner remains in the middle of the field

[urban skiff]

It is. But also dangerous because you have your bed right there as well

[gaunt dune]

It is, I even have a bench and a stationary bike.

[urban skiff]

bench, 2 bars, power rack, 180kg weights. o/

yo brother

[gaunt dune]

I plan to buy bars, but I haven't seen them here in my region, I think I'll have to order them online

[urban skiff]

Bought all mine online

Most from a local retailer, some stuff from germany because I can't compromise on the bench

Funny story: I bought the full stuff in one purchase, it arrived and that's that. Noticed one thing was missing and called them up about it. They sent the entire shipment again

[gaunt dune]

Luck boy XD

[urban skiff]

I ended up not accepting the extra stuff because I'm honest like that

[gaunt dune]

However, I don't know why I didn't think about it before, the initiative to exercise after a failed ss is quite good.

Honesty is the best policy, besides, why do you want more if you have two arms?

[analog merlin]

why does dmg feel so low compared to like 2 months ago

like when i all in someone it'll be 3/5 health gone versus i could chunk 2/3 pretty quick

[gaunt dune]

I don't think it feels so low, the current damage is much greater.

[grand scaffold]

thats lik

at 6% diff

[analog merlin]

like 13% but go off ig

not expecting big braining in the zug zug cord anyways lmao

[urban skiff]

Everyone lost a big amount of mainstat from trinkets this reset. Bonus went from +20% to +12%

100-(100/1,2)*1,12=6,67% nerf to stat

or for most classes a roughly 6-7% nerf

[rotund trellis]

12 rounds of shuffle at 1800, 3-3 both games, 0-6 both healrs in both games. SS is pure cancer shit

[urban skiff]

I prefer 0-6 healers to 0-6 dps

Probably psychological but eh

[rotund trellis]

I mean I prefer 6-0 dps honestly

[urban skiff]

why?

I'm working under the assumption I won't be going 6-0 unless someone really messed up the algorithm

[rotund trellis]

wrong assumption, I assume I'm always going 6-0 every game

then I live a life of perpetual disappointment

[urban skiff]

Disclaimer: Rage accumulated in real life non transferable to video game

[gaunt dune]

That would be infinite fuel for me XD

[urban skiff]

Use it on pullups

or dips

My pullup game changed completely after I added singles with max explosiveness from tensed position

use all the rage you want for those

[rotund trellis]

man I'm slacking so bad with the gym this week

I need to get my shit together

[urban skiff]

haven't trained in 3 weeks. It's killing me

Got two weeks off from tomorrow, that I can blow on gym as much as family allows

rotate fullbody with heavy upper / light lower and light upper / Heavy lower

[gaunt dune]

Coach: don't give up, come on you can do it!
me thinking about how they let me die at the beginning of the arena, how the magicians screw up the game, how no one dispels debuff and other things

[grand scaffold]

3/5 is 60%

2/3

is 66.7%

😂

[urban skiff]

MAGE SPOTTED, TAKE COVER

[grand scaffold]

good luck soldier

🫡

[urban skiff]

MAGE TALKING TO ME

EEEK

[grand scaffold]

😂

ahahahahahaha

yeah the % calculation was the most pve mage shit ive ever donme

mb mb

[analog merlin]

gonna kms rn lmfao

[urban skiff]

why? do you smell like beef and cheese?

[analog merlin]

versace and vagina

[fallen estuary]

Cat food and poop

Poop haha

[bold jacinth]

Hey guys, is it worth ever upgrading pvp items to higher levels?

Sorry if it's a stupid question but since everything gets upgraded to 489 anyway, isn't the upgrade futile?

[fallen estuary]

You just answered your own question

[bold jacinth]

so I'll take that as a no then haha

thanks man appreciate the help

[fallen estuary]

Np

Just watch out for the local australian in the server slingshotting spiders at people

[sharp meteor]

Doesn't affect pvp ilev, so basically only if you're using the pieces for pve.

[fallen estuary]

run 4 for the axe

heroic mode 😔

[heavy crown]

Hello im new to pvp and i have one question. should i look for a set or keep my pvp gear

[rotund trellis]

what gear you have

[heavy crown]

i have a basic pvp gear, and i can get 2 gear of the set

[rotund trellis]

you need full 4 set

[heavy crown]

but i will loose some versatility right ?

[rotund trellis]

no

[heavy crown]

how come ? can you explain please ?

[rotund trellis]

you convert the tier set pieces to pvp tier set with conduits

you should have 4 by now

3 seconds arena

[violet fossil]

i got my ass ate UP folks

[rotund trellis]

good for you mate

[violet fossil]

got tore up in a frost dk/frost mage/dh lobby lol

[mild thunder]

sounds nasty

[rotund trellis]

what the hell

[river walrus]

Screw blizzard with the pvp trinket nerfs, just freaking tune down the op specs

[mild thunder]

eh, they did

sub and dh were both nerfed

somehow uhdk wasnt

[rotund trellis]

dh nerf was a slap on the wrists

dh are still the top DPS if piloted well

[mild thunder]

being top damage isnt an issue

[rotund trellis]

but the rea outliers are boomies

[mild thunder]

being top damage by as far as they were was the issue

[rotund trellis]

boomy is absolutely broken

and no one notice

payed a 474 at 1600 in 3s, he outdamaged both me and the DH

[wheat jay]

Such is the fate of a dps only spec

Dh doesn't rly provide a lot for the team except dmg

Some mediocre peels, decent CC but you cant rly peel without it

[mild thunder]

i meannnn, imo dh deserves to be a top-damage spec in pvp - it's still a fairly squishy spec with no on-demand healing and is pretty susceptible to cc

and yea low team util

[wheat jay]

So its either peels or cc

If it was doing low dps itd be unplayable

[mild thunder]

well yea, last season it did warrior damage and i think i saw 2 above 2400 lol

probably less

if a dh does warrior damage, you just take the warrior

[wheat jay]

Give me dh dmg on survi

[mild thunder]

survival rework in 11.0

[wheat jay]

Ye i hope for it too

Id like to see warrior changes too tbh

[mild thunder]

idk, i kinda miss playing sv but it's just so much effort for so little return, and i genuinely dislike how low mobi it feels compared to 10.1

[wheat jay]

Making arms warrior less bursty i guess, more consistent

[mild thunder]

id love to see arms get blown up and reworked into a real spec

[wheat jay]

Not having so many bleeds

Something to reward all time uptime

[mild thunder]

nah bleeds are cool

it needs to have modifiers that actually matter

and more buttons to rotate between than op > ms > op > ms

[wheat jay]

Every skill used giving like 2% dmg buff, up to 10 stacks, lasts 3 seconds

[mild thunder]

arms has pretty much always has rend and deep wounds, and it's a stretch to call deep wounds a real bleed when it's just a passive on the target

[wheat jay]

It didnt have deep wounds in legion, at least not as mastery

[mild thunder]

"pretty much always"... i think arms mastery is fine, it just needs a buff to the points per % value

also delete ignore pain

[wheat jay]

Nah

[mild thunder]

it's such a dumb ability, poor design

[wheat jay]

Id say ignore pain is fine, but give it longer cd

[mild thunder]

or make ignore pain actually punishing to spam

nah, it's wayyyyy too efficient

[wheat jay]

So it can be that clutch button

Or make it only usable in defensive stance

[mild thunder]

ehh, i dont like that

ends up being kinda janky to pre-ds and pre-ip a stun

you just need 1. less rage, and 2. other ways to spend rage that make pressing IP a loss

[keen gazelle]

Catching up on chat. I read that as your pullout game changed completely and died laughing

[violet fossil]

max explosiveness

[wheat jay]

She never saw it coming

[boreal stone]

arms mastery is dogshit design

[rotund trellis]

Sensei, teach me
(icecrown warriors leaderboard)

[boreal stone]

ur doing squats on it rn

[mild thunder]

it's not bad, it's just bland

most specs have pretty bland mastery effects tbh

survival mastery is dogshit design

i can think of maybe 2-3 dps specs with actually cool masteries

[boreal stone]

WW mastery is pretty cool

but it scales terribly

[mild thunder]

yea, that's one of the only ones i could think of

but yea, the downside is the scaling is incredibly poor, to the point that vers is typically better in pve lol

ww, mm and then kiinda ele

[boreal stone]

I wish mastery was actually mastery

not just mineless passive

stats coming along nicely

[mild thunder]

it's just easier to balance when they're all mindless passives

but yea i agree

personally, i'd like to see vers be deleted, a few mastery reworks and then crit damage and multistrike added as stats

[fallen estuary]

just 5-6 a caster lobby

idk but ever since reset full caster lobbies are just way more easier now

[cosmic vapor]

[fallen estuary]

yea wtf is going on LMAO

i just got out of a warlock / mage full stack lobby and 6-6'ed it

and it was easy as fuck? wtf is going on

[bold jacinth]

any1 know the weekly conquest increase? sorry if its been asked b4

[lavish quest]

550

[bold jacinth]

thanks brother

[urban skiff]

With how big my pendlay rows are, I'd say my pull-in game is way stronker than pull-out

[stuck cliff]

Maybe when you get past2k everyone who tried meleeing shuffle just started climbing on a range toon

[urban skiff]

mmr changes are in. Your 2k lobby was 1850 mmr two days ago

[fallen estuary]

theres no way mmr creeps that fast

[urban skiff]

Also when we get nerfs to mainstat, casters are disproportionately nerfed because they get all their damage scaling from it, not from weapon dps

[fallen estuary]

i noticed it was only like 2 mmr a day

[urban skiff]

inflated mmr feeds upwards in the chain

[stuck cliff]

I play with ret or healers I think I was inflated already

[urban skiff]

But, I think my other explanation is more likely: We scale less with mainstat than them, so they got nerfed harder

[urban skiff]

every fucking game

😦

[mild thunder]

all specs scale equally with mainstat, idk what you mean

some specs were affected more because they relied on shorter burst windows that they cant achieve anymore, like sub

or frostmage

[urban skiff]

I'm not sure why you think that

weapon dps gets transformed into attack power for us. Casters don't have equivalent, their weapons have more intelligence to keep weapons juicy upgrades

admittedly I don't look at what I'm doing whenever i play caster but that's how it's always been since the stat rework in, i wanna say cata

Essentially casters got their weapon dps nerfed and we didn't

[mild thunder]

my understanding is that casters abilities get a lower contribution from mainstat to compensate

so while yes they may receive more mainstat, their average mainstat contribution to ability scaling will be lower

[urban skiff]

Figuring this out is too big for my head

I can't tell what melee / caster abilities are supposed to be equivalent so I can compare them

and all specs have so many modifiers to complicate

Evoker disintegrate hits for 100% spellpower, per second. Mortal strike is 212% AP. Bloodthirst is 80% AP

[knotty atlas]

It's probably because casters spell power formula does not take into consideration weapon damage.

For melee specs, weapon damage is in the calculation for the final "ability damage". For casters, it's not.

So they get higher main stat (intellect), to get more Spell power for compensation.

[mild thunder]

guys

PSA

if you're gonna play like absolute bitches in 1600 games and run behind pillar for 5 minutes

you have to win

you're morally obligated to win

or uninstall the game

because this shit is so cringe

[mild thunder]

i had to rant in here because if i whispered the players i'll get banned

[stuck cliff]

||wakes up not in server anymore|| lol this guy I've been playing with pulls me behind pillers I guess he has better sense of something

[mild thunder]

gripping people out of LoS or whatever is cool

i was talking about people that just pillar hug and run and play like cuckazoids in 1600 games

[grand scaffold]

i wish i had those games on my arms warrior

lol

[urban skiff]

went 3-3

:/

[grand scaffold]

thats fine

atleeast you didnt go 0-6

[urban skiff]

true

[rotund trellis]

zercher you still doing ss?

[rotund trellis]

excellent! grats!

the dude at 2378 with a -30 is giving up on life rn

[grand scaffold]

lmfao

[grand scaffold]

ty btw

you playing wow today?>

[rotund trellis]

yeah I'm off work. In SS cue as I prep my bags for holidays

wanted to try and get 2100 before christmas break, but it's gonna be hard

[grand scaffold]

can do it ez

i believe in you

[rotund trellis]

in SS? nah at 1800 we get shitty healers assigned, so most lobbies are 3-3

I think they increased the mmr gap for healers to reduce cue time

so there's always one of the 2 going 0-6 cause they cant heal shit

[grand scaffold]

if you find a bad healer just swap on them a lot more

[oak hinge]

Yo, as arms, when to use Unhinged vs Hurricane? Thank you! i really love Unhinged and would prefer to play all day unhinged

[grand scaffold]

so basically

you never use unhinged

and always use hurricane

unhinged is bad

[oak hinge]

why is Magnus on his highest ranked war (highest war NA) has Unhinged specced into?

[grand scaffold]

idk

lemme check

[oak hinge]

sure

[grand scaffold]

tbh idk

magnusz can kinda do whatever he wants bc hes that good

[oak hinge]

true.

[grand scaffold]

on a real note tho

[oak hinge]

How do oyu use Hurricane then

[grand scaffold]

its because you can cancel unhinged

[grand scaffold]

you just press bladestorm and stacks immediately start

[oak hinge]

yeah, that i knew, it's amazing

do you save col smash for after lolstorm then?

[grand scaffold]

depends

some warriors like the bladestorm before their avatar burst

others like to bladestorm afterwards

both are good

i prefer using it before then using smash

[oak hinge]

i see, Thanks!

[grand scaffold]

np

[rotund trellis]

also lol this game

absolutely bugged. I left que, re-queued and it popped IMMEDIATELY

0-6, great lobby

[violet fossil]

@grand scaffold got a question

I’m behind on my arms war and I suck booty cause I haven’t played it seriously since mop but I did one SS and got into a frost dk,frost mage,dh lobby.. the amount of stuns was insane lol

is that lobby just complete ass to play in?

there were multiple times I got people so low but I could not connect for the life of me but that’s on me

[rotund trellis]

2-4 actually, solo shuffle is shit and it's the last time I'm playing it

it's so bad

2xdh 1x arcane lobby

fuck me sideways

[grand scaffold]

which one?

sec im acting dyslexic

that lobby is bad

but its survivable

into dk dh

[violet fossil]

i was fine in it

[grand scaffold]

you go dk

[violet fossil]

just sucked to move

[grand scaffold]

into dk mage you TRY to go mage but you swap to dk if he runs too much

[violet fossil]

yeah i sat on him

[grand scaffold]

in mage dh you swap dh to get blur

and whenever he doesnt have blur you try to kill him

[violet fossil]

gotcha

i tried so hard lol

just gotta get used to it again

[grand scaffold]

all g

keep at it

[urban skiff]

Only did a single round

[urban skiff]

Big gratz my man

[grand scaffold]

ty ty

what cr you at now

[urban skiff]

I had big plans to do a lot of SS today but suddenly had the energy to stand again so went for a 2 hour walk with my kids. Solo is 1689 and 2v2 is 1674(peak was 1720)

By the sounds of things I just need to get the reps in to hit 1800 now they did inflation

[rotund trellis]

if you want the mog I'll heal you in 2s, we'll get there in less than an hour

[grand scaffold]

wait

guys

zercher log on your warr

cassetto you heal

i will play my lock

we do 3's

i got 2100 on it not long ago

[urban skiff]

I'm in EU

[grand scaffold]

ah fuck off

😂

[rotund trellis]

ah shit

[grand scaffold]

i got excited and shit

[rotund trellis]

lol

back to monster hunter world

[urban skiff]

If it's comfort, I was excited as well

[urban skiff]

WHAT WEAPON

I play a bit of monsterhunter myself

[rotund trellis]

sword and shield

I am a noob

[urban skiff]

Bro that's the ultimate unga bunga

[rotund trellis]

I tried the big sword but I'm too sow

[urban skiff]

SnS for unga bunga, greatsword for the great tackle

But my favorite weapon is GUNLANCE

[rotund trellis]

I have 5 hours in the game, so idk wtf you talking about LOL

[urban skiff]

Oh boy, you have a whole world of unga bunga to discover

Ungabunga is when you jump up in the air and then slam the shield down on the monster

https://youtu.be/uVqmP25SlGY

[rotund trellis]

I'll wacth it

I understand absolutely nothing about the game right now, most of the icons and functions..

[urban skiff]

Ok, so I managed to play like 15 hours of the game thinking it was just dark souls without magic, slap stuff with weapons

Skip my mistake: all the weapons have super awesome gimmicks and combos that make them feel amazing and makes you feel like a god for playing it off correctly

Shoulder-tackling a dragon in the face when it's charging down at you from the air is the best

[rotund trellis]

I can barely catch an ant waking by lo

[urban skiff]

Mouse keyboard or controller?

[rotund trellis]

cont

[urban skiff]

try a slash attack, hold your move button away from the direction you're facing and hold down your shield attack button

you backstep and then jump forward, if that attack connects with a monster, you fly into the air. Unga bunga comes when you use shield slam in the air

have to hold the backstep for the right amount of time for it to generate an attack

the landing from that attack can go right into another backstep, infinite loop unga bunga

[rotund trellis]

interesting, I'll try!

[lean burrow]

is it like dmc?

[urban skiff]

uh

it's like monster hunter

[lean burrow]

awesome combos that make you a god if you play correctly sounded like dmc

[urban skiff]

yea I guess that's right

but like, monsters you're playing are from FromSoft games

idk what monsters in DMC are like

[lean burrow]

ty

[urban skiff]

I'm a gunlance main so basically dumb as a rock

All other weapons envy us because we always have fun playing the game

[rotund trellis]

I'll try the gunlance. I skipped cause I thought that every hybrid weapon must be shit

[urban skiff]

Gunlance, more like shotgun halberd

In world it's all about shelling or slapping and using backhops to reposition

In rise it's about launching yourself that the monster at light speed and then unloading your entire arsenal in their stupid faces

[urban skiff]

Also for the record: there are no shit weapons. Different people vibe with different weapons.

Heavy bowgun can equip a "shield" on the bowgun and tank almost any hit while lighting up Super Saiyan Angry Monkey

Longsword uses counters and the power of weeb-bullshit to demolish anything

hammer SLAPS the monster silly

Switch Axe is for the yolo people

[fallen estuary]

Gonna do some wotlk pvp. God i just cant stand this shit

I go 2-6 cause rogue couldnt play right and last match against him i get cced out the fucking ass and he all of a sudden 1taps my shaman like LMFAO

[jolly narwhal]

switchaxe/HH reporting in. Looking forward to the next title they just announced

[ruby temple]

Hot take I don't like gs in rise as much as any of the other games. World and GU are the best.

[urban skiff]

world gs was peak gs

[woeful solstice]

Wotlk even worse

[ruby temple]

Love world GS for sure. GU I think is the uncontested best of the old games styles. Specifically Arial for me is a lot of fun. I think I dislike rise just because I don't like the silkbind moves and also hate how every single monster spams micro-shimmids after ever attack so unless you actually stun lock them or hunt them a million times it's way to annoying to do anything then hit and run.

[urban skiff]

World was my first monster hunter, so my reference list is really short.

I really enjoy what they did to gunlance in rise

perfect amount of ridiculous and just constant cackling whenever using any part of my moveset

I really hope we get to keep bulletbarrage and groundsplitter.

[boreal stone]

sns is for npc pussies

hammer is where its at

also have to respect the GS users

[amber heron]

Can anyone recraft my helmet i am silenced

[rotund trellis]

send me the order

[mild thunder]

lol

vent in here, mate.

[gleaming marlin]

ideally what stat % are we looking for? I see a lot of people just hovering at 30% versa then dumping mastery

[mild thunder]

ok feral damage is completely broken

S tier spec

@lavish quest i take it all back

[river walrus]

normally it`s always toxic people but finally someone decent lol

glad mistweaver monk crushing us on 1800 lobby

[lavish quest]

I'm always right in the end

[mild thunder]

i hit a 270k-ish non-crit bite last night lmao

and i feel a lot less squishy after i just ditched all my defensive talents and took more movespeed instead. i just outrun people on their go's instead of trying to live a stun

[lavish quest]

Yeah... if you could get that nerfed, that would be great

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1036769769543704576.gif?size=48&name=chatting&quality=lossless

[mild thunder]

tbf the rest of my kit does literally nothing now lol

it's just ff and bite

[rotund trellis]

I REALLY hope DK are gonna get nerfed VERY SOON

how the fuck DK and DH are fucking tier S+++++++ since day one

[mild thunder]

dk yes

[rotund trellis]

I didn;t even lose! They're just gross!

[mild thunder]

i dont feel like dh is that bad anymore

they just die so easy

[rotund trellis]

Ok I'll take DK

they're just GROSS and braindead spec

[mild thunder]

dk is very unfun to verse, esp as casters or healers

[final flint]

Is there any link for gladius updates?

[mild thunder]

check bicmex's twitter

[rotund trellis]

what update?

[mild thunder]

to get it to work this patch

[rotund trellis]

ah

I use gladiusEX

[mild thunder]

@final flint use this

[keen gazelle]

Is it decent to macro Colossus Smash and Sharpen Blade together ?

[mild thunder]

no

[final flint]

ty

[mild thunder]

sharpen should be saved for when;

1. your kill-target is already low (below 50% is a good rule)
2. their healer is out of/coming out of cc
3. you can push for the kill

[keen gazelle]

Right on , are there any abilities worth macroing together for convenience?

I already am running the charge/hammy/vene macro

[mild thunder]

outside of hamstring + charge, not really. you wanna be able to have control over all your abilities individually, if you can manage it

[keen gazelle]

Right on , control/binds aren't a huge issue for me or anything. Mainly wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any obvious macros or something dumb.

[mild thunder]

oh and obviously a stance macro is fine

this one in pins should work fine

[keen gazelle]

Nice ty!

[rotund trellis]

Warlocks: remove leeching or furious for wrecking throw?

[fallen solar]

That makes my brain hurt

[mild thunder]

[boreal stone]

drop fast footwork for it imo, could drop leech instead. doesnt rly matter that much

can also drop exihl blows for fatal mark

[rotund trellis]

I use exihlarating only for non pets comps

otehrwise I go with fueled by violence

but I'll give fata a shot instead

[fickle forge]

Dropped EP for FbV lately

[simple rock]

taking a Q into instantly leaving is next level

[mild thunder]

5% ms >>>> 5% leech imo, but it's a small diff

[cyan mauve]

how tf someone win 3 and lose 150 rating

[simple rock]

it's just a UI bug

nothing was played out

the monk left instantly

[urban skiff]

I want to try dk and warlock. What races do I pick for them?

[simple rock]

lock is human/orc/nelf

dks orc/human/dark iron

but tbh just play what you enjoy

i'm playing belf pally and I get good use out of the racial maybe 1/10 games xD

[urban skiff]

I was thinking nelf dk and draenei lock for the themes

or kt human for the stronk bod

what is this queue

[mild thunder]

doesnt matter

[grand scaffold]

orc for both

but void elf is the best for lock if you wanna play alliance

[urban skiff]

disconnecting from charge is shit

Do I craft a vers mastery ring or buy a vers haste ring?

[teal hedge]

Fellas, the rating feels a little icky

Got 6 wins, but only got 36 rating, despite my mmr being low

All this because, I assume, my mmr was 1 entire point above average?

Then again, I assume we had it like this before, I do not wanna coomplain

[fickle forge]

Yeah not entirely sure fam, think the healer you're competing vs has horrendous mmr and thus you're winning 6 vs a 1200 mmr "lobby" or smth

[teal hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/martin-cabello-boop-banana-phone-bananas-captioned-gif-gif-22151606

I have found my peace

I just put on ambient works whilst queueing healer

[teal hedge]

And then I get a 55 from a 5/6 vs a 0 cr evoker?

[grand scaffold]

2100 3's now

💪

[grand scaffold]

lol how

isnt that meant to be like +800 cr

[teal hedge]

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYIN

[mild thunder]

i miss him

[teal hedge]

The feds got him

[sharp meteor]

Hm. Can't dedcide between Tauren and HMT.

[teal hedge]

HMT?

Oh high mountain

[sharp meteor]

Highmountain Tauren. 🫎

[teal hedge]

In my opinion? Nelf, or maybe even worgen'

Heck, even kt

[sharp meteor]

I already have a Worgen.

[teal hedge]

Worgens look so cool

Mine is white

My gnome looks really stupid but I love him

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, I was torn on mogs/fur because there's white to match my vulpera, black and red to be all edgy or just a sort of brown to work with the legion elite set that I'm a big fan of.

[teal hedge]

Yeah I gotta get more older pieces for my specs

Aint got no drip

[mild thunder]

for?

[teal hedge]

Aint no way da frox is crankin da druod

[sharp meteor]

Aesthetics and pvp racials.

[teal hedge]

Hmt looks cooler

Fun fact

Did you know the moose is swedens national animal?

[sharp meteor]

I did not. 🫎

[mild thunder]

no i mean what class lol

[teal hedge]

It's such a cool animal

Just a shame they're pretty rare down south

[mild thunder]

wannabe canadians eh

[sharp meteor]

Warrior of course.

[mild thunder]

there’s a moose loose about the hoose

[sharp meteor]

I'm considering factioning my human warr.

[teal hedge]

Sometimes they break into yards and eat old, fermented apples and get drunk

Just like me fr

[mild thunder]

no shot

[teal hedge]

Stick with alliance

Trust

[mild thunder]

human > orc > gnome > nelf > everything else

[sharp meteor]

I might just setup hmt from scratch because I am somewhat fond of this fellow. Reaching the point of too many chars again, though.

[mild thunder]

for warrior

[mild thunder]

quite a distinguished gentleman

[teal hedge]

He looks so broke </3

I really oughta level my alts

But strait gooning it in pvp is just so gratifying

[mild thunder]

pvp feels pretty fun atm ngl

[teal hedge]

It does!

[mild thunder]

i gotta spam more 3s on feral

[teal hedge]

I just do shuffle; I somehow perform better in shuffle than in 2s

[violet fossil]

yeah games are slower now

[teal hedge]

I guess I just don't connect very well with my dps-players :(

[mild thunder]

some games are too slow imo

but it’s still fine

8 minutes is cringe

[sharp meteor]

Ten minute games into double caster mega cringe.

[violet fossil]

bfa type games eh

[sharp meteor]

Glad my lock domes fotm locks so they get scared and try to pillar.

[mild thunder]

my fault for queueing aff/feral and ele/feral tbh

[teal hedge]

Here's my warr

[violet fossil]

that sounds absolutely disgusting

[mild thunder]

only queueing with destro from now on

[violet fossil]

afflic/feral

[mild thunder]

or devoker

[teal hedge]

You queue double dps?

[mild thunder]

big dam, no burst

[sharp meteor]

Worgen are so cool.

[teal hedge]

They are!

What is that set btw?

Looks very swag

[sharp meteor]

Legion s3-4 elite, tomb seasons.

[mild thunder]

when fungus was still 12

[sharp meteor]

Wishing the booties didn't disappear on worgies.

[violet fossil]

i wish I PvP’d in legion ugh

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, wish I pvp'd more in legion. Banger elite sets.

[mild thunder]

wish i pvpd in legion

[teal hedge]

You're off by 1 year

[violet fossil]

I’m still kicking myself about it

i just pve’d

[teal hedge]

You can buy it wit tokens, right?

[violet fossil]

just the regular sets

[mild thunder]

i wish i was old enough to know to do the challenge modes in mop and wod

[violet fossil]

not the elite

[teal hedge]

Holy balls

What a shame

[mild thunder]

I WANT CLOUDSONG GLAIVE SO BAD RAAAAAAAA

[teal hedge]

I was just strait up 13 leveling a hunter and my guild decided to start a flame war

[violet fossil]

they mentioned something about that for next season

[teal hedge]

I hate guilds

[violet fossil]

well a “hint” but everyone is speculating

[mild thunder]

yea just rumours

i’m not letting myself hope

[sharp meteor]

Could've played disc if you were like 7 years old.

[mild thunder]

i was 11ish in wod

[violet fossil]

i liked disc back then

[mild thunder]

i had a max lvl arms warrior

got to 1800 in 3s

[teal hedge]

I was fucking 9 in WOD

[mild thunder]

queueing kfc

went by Migzzesty back then and was in Bajheeras Army on dark spear

[violet fossil]

i was 20

[mild thunder]

such a chad

[violet fossil]

omfg

wtf

[sharp meteor]

Oh.

Meant to reply to Galangus about being 9.

[violet fossil]

I legit thought wod was earlier than that

[mild thunder]

oh

[teal hedge]

Oh sorry, I was 10 back in Wod

[mild thunder]

guess i’m not worth the reply anymore sadge

[sharp meteor]

Mop was like 10 years ago man aaaaaaaaa

[violet fossil]

/cry

[sharp meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-7641197

[violet fossil]

Released 2012

Graduated 2012

a

[teal hedge]

Yeah I graduated 2023

[violet fossil]

omfg 💀

[mild thunder]

i graduated primary school in 2014

[violet fossil]

@sharp meteor when did you graduate

[teal hedge]

Ah, I am slightly above average and I am losing

Let's see how bad it goes

I swear to god I am becoming dps-phobic

[fickle forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/332244414241964042/1137155945231826994/ezgif-2-4d943c5c2d.gif?ex=65988800&is=65861300&hm=cb36bffd357ffa6e52243f6f17d9bc3c3151ef917dcda2937037185e425c9eea&

[teal hedge]

You get so much more salt as a healer

Had a real dump-game, went 0/6

Some guy calls me dog, I dm him telling him he's a dick and then he goes on this tirade?

"Do not flame first if you play bad"

Absolute lunatic

[urban skiff]

I never figured out

if dog is good or bad

[teal hedge]

Well in arab countries and many eastern countries it's equivalent to calling someone a bitch

(in a more derogatory manner)

[mild thunder]

dog = bad
dawg = good

big dog = good

[teal hedge]

Healer performs good and carries? Silence.

Healer has a bad game? Yeah uninstall

[urban skiff]

What when they call me the dog god?

[teal hedge]

Anubis

[urban skiff]

Heard that a few times now

[teal hedge]

But he's not a dog

Sergal, I think

[urban skiff]

usually from rogue getting smeared by accident

[urban skiff]

jackal

[teal hedge]

Oh right

Oh no sergal is the furry one

oops

[pure hornet]

Guyz how do you deal with frost mage

[urban skiff]

Depends on their partner

[pure hornet]

Rogue or priest in 2’s

[urban skiff]

if there's a warlock I just get on mage whenever he casts frost bomb to disrupt the whombo combo

If it's priest/mage in 2s I just kill the mage

[teal hedge]

If it's with a rogue you oughta prepare for the opener oneshot

[urban skiff]

No need to prepare anything. The opener glides in with and without lube equally.

[pure hornet]

Yeah they raape

[mild thunder]

keep rogue in combat, talk with your healer about when you're both going to trinket/trade CDs
hit priest whenever mage is running, leap away/out of LoS to avoid mage damage

warrior eats disc priests

[pure hornet]

Nice to know

I feel i am strong against hunters as arms

Dunno why

Or i met bad ones

[teal hedge]

Troar goes through turtle

Feels pretty good killing them through turtle

[urban skiff]

Cleave attacks hit through turtle

but only when cleaved from something else to the hunter

[pure hornet]

Just sad face when dh or frost mage is on

Dh so overtuned

[urban skiff]

I'm ok with frostmage

[teal hedge]

Dh is pretty fine tbh

[urban skiff]

But I'm fury so yea

[mild thunder]

dh isnt that overtuned anymore

it's more than handle-able

[pure hornet]

Fury deals better with them?

[urban skiff]

Next overtuned is WW monk. We should be catching a rise in them over the next weeks

[mild thunder]

ww overrated tbh

[urban skiff]

off gcd root break every 20 seconds

[wheat jay]

Not even that good anymore lol

[urban skiff]

Seeing how unplayed they are, I'd say they're underrated

[pure hornet]

Do you attack him? Or healer

[mild thunder]

there's definitely people rerolling to it already lol

[wheat jay]

You're warrior, you attack whatever is closer

And whatever doesnt have walls up

[mild thunder]

and there's just no real reason to, the buffs were pretty meh for pvp

[pure hornet]

That sounded so scientific

[urban skiff]

Monk could be buffed to 50% stronger than DH was this season and ww will still be the least played (except feral)

[mild thunder]

???

what

[wheat jay]

What else do you want to hear?

[pure hornet]

😂 nah it just reminded me we are unga bunga hitters

[urban skiff]

DID SOMEONE SAY UNGA BUNGA

[wheat jay]

Well, it is what it is

[pure hornet]

Hit stuff close to us

[wheat jay]

That's literally warrior

And most of the classes

[urban skiff]

heck I'll hit a pet just because I can

[pure hornet]

I want to consider myself sophisticated as a mage, but play it easy as a warior

[pure hornet]

:)) isn’t that illegal?

[urban skiff]

You're thinking about hitting ON pets

which is super illegal if nobody called you dog in the last 3 games

[teal hedge]

Ladder feels pretty empty now huh?

Ran into the same fury warrior thrice now

[urban skiff]

I assume people are relaxing because of holiday

[sharp meteor]

More people queue when number go up.

Also holidays, yeah.

[mild thunder]

number go up when more people queue.

[urban skiff]

moonkin ele is KFC?

[mild thunder]

hunter/warr

[urban skiff]

what is ele boomie then?

[mild thunder]

cancer

[wheat jay]

Just ele/boomie

[violet fossil]

I thought it was spicy chicken cleave or something for a second but that’s fire/boomy hehe

[mild nest]

Hey guys im new here and just redownloaded wow - havent played in 9 years. Used to be a 2.5K arena player and I was wondering if anyone wanted to share the UI set up/keybinds/a source for macros for an arms warrior. I randomly decided to use my character boost for the only class i never really played. Thanks a bunch.

[rotund trellis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UED43NOWg10&t=580s

The video literally opens with "While some of us OLD pvpers may not have the same reaction speed from 10 years ago..."

[wicked bison]

do we not have ignore pain anymore i just came back dont see icon

[rotund trellis]

it's a talent

[wicked bison]

do we not take it for pvp

[rotund trellis]

we 100% taking it

[wicked bison]

wheres the common arms pvp build

[rotund trellis]

pinned and just look up

I just pasted it

[wicked bison]

duh ty

[mild nest]

haha perfect ill watch now

thank you

[calm eagle]

when do we play skullsplitter talent? vs damp comps or? while playing thunder?

[rotund trellis]

we don't, at least, I don't

[grand scaffold]

its ass

[river walrus]

Are you guys running fatality or the execute one at the bottom right of the tree?? I saw on murlok majority are running the execute that buffs mortal strike damage even though it's nerfed in pvp. Is fatality that bad?

[sharp meteor]

Uh, in theory I imagine it might be decent into petless double melee aka retwarr but I don't know if it's seeing much play right now.

[final dock]

Hi, I have some questions in regards to 2s Arms Warrior. Playing with a Resto Druid as my partner. I saw people going away from Spear of Bastion, is it not good anymore compared to taking Shockwave? Also is Unhinged okay to take or is Hurricane just way better?

[urban skiff]

a tale of solo shuffle in two parts

[violet fossil]

lmfao

[mint pulsar]

stupid question maybe, but can you have 2x of the same embellishment? like blue silken lining

[thick reef]

Quel'thalas

Shitter confirmed

[grand scaffold]

fatality is meh

the one on the bottom right is very good

you only run fatality into rare situations where you think you need it to finish off a kill

and even then you dont remove the execute talent in the bottom right of the screen

[grand scaffold]

😂

ahahahahahaahahahahaha

thats the funniest thing ive read today

literally laughed outloud

ahahahahahahahaa

[thick reef]

You know I'm right

[grand scaffold]

yeah fr

thats still the funniest shit ive read today

😂

[thick reef]

Kek

[grand scaffold]

its possible never heard of anybody trying it

not really worth doing when the boots are that good

[grand scaffold]

hurricane is better

spear is bad

you play shockwave and roar

unhinged isnt bad by any means

b

but hurricane just better 99% of the time

[final dock]

Is there a reason spear is bad. I understand in 3s you want the bleed damage but you think the bleed is still better in 2s vs keeping people still?

[grand scaffold]

you can get out of spear

there isnt really a situation where it outshines roar

especially with crit being so bad

[final dock]

Gotcha

If you are playing Unhinged, does the avatar Bladestorm (if you're talented into it) also do 2 MS?

[grand scaffold]

yes

but fr the only time its worth playing unhinged is where there are no pets

and hurricane dmg boost is just so nice

[final dock]

Last question 😛 I read that even if MS resets, you still want to alternate Overpower->MS and don't want to do MS->MS and leave Overpower capped at 2 stacks, is that right?

[grand scaffold]

no

everytime you can press mortal strike

you press mortal strike

[final dock]

Makes sense to me

[final dock]

I'm playing with my warrior friend who started recently and I think he has troubles with maximizing damage. I understand that the stat boost is probably better but using Unhinged to do the damage vs having to do a good rotation after seems easier for now until he gets better at it

[grand scaffold]

fair enough

[final dock]

I appreciate the help!

[grand scaffold]

np hmu if you need more

[final dock]

❤️

[fallen estuary]

Press mortal strike and dont eat the bugs

[fallen estuary]

Yea its POWERFUL in melee cleaves. But against pets classes its only useful against ST or caster ST pressure

Its really satisfying taking but you rlly gotta dedicate to pressure when you cast it. You stop hitting when you cast it you pretty much wasted it

[fallen estuary]

First off, dont delete anything off that toon before you sell it (gear or item wise) . You night have insanely rare stuff on that boosted toon

[mint pulsar]

I ended up looking at DH and 87 embellishes out of thr top 50 DHs (so 100 total i guess) have blue silken on 2 items. Ive specificially looked at them individually and it seems like they run 2x. Is this a bug on murlok or something im missing?

[urban skiff]

If optimizing for pve, what rum/cola ratio should I be running?

I'm thinking 1:3

[thick reef]

1:0, imagine tainting your rum

[urban skiff]

Eh

I got like 5 different bottles last year from different subcontractors at work

Haven't been around the office yet this year but expecting at least one or two bottles again