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#pvp
mild thunder
urban skiff
Was it same healer for first 3?
lavish quest
0-6 and you know it
urban skiff
here comes the 3-2 announcement
urban skiff
we should all reroll healer for a week
wheat jay
3-3
mild thunder
true
sharp meteor
Should start everyout out at 0 mmr
No, some people need room to fall.
That's why they generally start people at 1500.
urban skiff
If they fall from 0 they're generating rating for someone without taking anything out. Natural inflation
sharp meteor
There's natural inflation from them just existing already.
That's why the first season is always kind of juiced.
urban skiff
Linking rewards to fixed ratings instead of ladder% was a bad design choice
mild thunder
Linking rewards to fixed ratings instead of ladder% was a bad design choice
eh
this is a fake issue imo
no one would give a shit if they actually just inflated the season properly from the beginning
wheat jay
True
Only tryhards and people that can BARELY get something in pvp complain about rewards
And most of the ppl that got glad back when it was % wouldn't get it now
Game is different, meta is different, pacing is different, there's focus on different aspects of arena compared to when you just did one for one trade of cooldowns
fickle forge
Man losing to Annabella harder than he lost to Snowmixy
wheat jay
Who tf is anabella xD
wheat jay
Man losing to Annabella harder than he lost to Snowmixy
Snowmixy with best dh in the world tho
fickle forge
Snowmixy with best dh in the world tho
Snowmixy should make it half as hard to beat
#NeverLostToMixyClub
mild thunder
do you have the other pieces already?
rotund trellis
yaya
violet fossil
socket bro
rotund trellis
socket it is, fellas
mild thunder
ehhhh
wheat jay
That's why I do pve vault lol
mild thunder
emblem isnt horrible
wheat jay
Same ilvl as pvp
mild thunder
but it's kinda useless as arms
you can use emblem into rmp or rlx
but it's pretty rare
rotund trellis
I'll take the L and get the socket
mild thunder
arms is so squishy that emblem wont save you anyway
wheat jay
L
mild thunder
amirite @fickle forge
mild thunder
karg is gonna come to NA for me 
wheat jay
Fuck knows why I blame Kargish
mild thunder
no shot you're struggling with dh/warr
i was watching whaazz and it's all he fights
mild thunder
whaazz was getting pretty tilted at how bad the dh/warr players were
rotund trellis
I'm sitting on this stupid 1550 conquest waiting for next week to get the weapon
another week of no progress
mild thunder
This is def the most scuffed comp
when are we queueing outlaw/arms
wheat jay
Ngl id love to queue KFC but KFC is absolutely dogshit
fickle forge
when are we queueing outlaw/arms
I love my bench press dude, don't do me like that
mild thunder
I love my bench press dude, don't do me like that
you queued with a sub 
fickle forge
you queued with a sub <a:chatting:1036769769543704576>
This is shuffle
fast meteor
what is you guys opinion on sophic vs waffin devotion for fury fellas?
mild thunder
This is shuffle
you got matched with a sub rogue
cringe
real arms warriors would just not let that happen
wheat jay
@fickle forge ye
Hes right
I don't see you matching with survi hunters
Cheater
Anyway, this reset i should have 4set
And I can do some solid dmg
My fote will throw a FULL bomb fam
wheat jay
Can you fuckong comprehend how busted that is?
WHOLE FUCKING BOMB
NOW I AM BECOME DEATH
THE DESTROYER OF WORLD
mild thunder
it basically saves you a global every 45 seconds!!!!!!!!!
wheat jay
drowsy sparrow
Incorporating this got me my first decisive win just now 😄 I'm only 1300 rated so maybe not the greatest achievement but felt good
mild thunder
🫡
fickle forge
It's kinda funny how this DH can use Blur, Glimpse, Rain before the sub has even popped, and he still almost wins the round
fickle forge
you got matched with a sub rogue
I still win 5 cause arms shits on sub rogue
Like shit's unwinable for him
wheat jay
It's kinda funny how this DH can use Blur, Glimpse, Rain before the sub has even...
I call cap
Subs don't wait even 3s before they pop in shuffle
mild thunder
I still win 5 cause arms shits on sub rogue
real
arms is actually such an insane rogue counter idk why people here always complain about rouge
fickle forge
Assassa rogue is different, but sub just gets shut down every DR
lavish quest
Artji sees SnowMixy and loses? So that's how it is? 😏
Also damn @wheat jay you're 1800 on DH too? I thought you were supposed to be good or somethin
fickle forge
Artji has invested 3 seconds into his DH
wheat jay
Also damn <@291636646225379328> you're 1800 on DH too? I thought you were suppos...
Im dogshit but I sometimes do AWC worthy plays
fickle forge
Okay, 4.5 then
lavish quest
Artji has invested 3 seconds into his DH
God damn, how many seconds does he need? It's DH
Eye beam go brrrr
mild thunder
arms mains when they find out dh has 3x as many dps buttons as them 🐒 🙈
fallen estuary
arms mains when they find out dh has 3x as many dps buttons as them 🐒 🙈
keybinded to one macro
so technically not
nice try
wheat jay
Now its fel rush immo aura, throw glaive, sweep, chaos strike, sigil of flame, elysian, the hunt, essence break, felblade, fel barrage, vengeful retreat
All those used for dmg
In proper combinations
Can't spam it all
Oh right eye Beam too xd
mild thunder
Now its fel rush immo aura, throw glaive, sweep, chaos strike, sigil of flame, e...
yea but i press mortal strike and overpower (in no particular order)
checkmate, demon hunter 😎
wheat jay
RIP
mild thunder
hopefully 11.0 brings a ton of spec reworks
sv, ww, arms all in desperate need of a revamp
arms tree layout is fine, spec is just boring as fuck
i would also love a druid class tree redesign ngl
rotund trellis
teal hedge
Spell refelct
rotund trellis
(I'm playing prot btw)
teal hedge
you disserve it
mild thunder
you disserve it
disserve
teal hedge
i will grill you
rotund trellis
here's another confetti
guy is soloing the entire server
I hate world pvp so much lol
teal hedge
Oh yeah world pvp is pretty crazy
rotund trellis
2 min ress between deaths? fuck off blizzard
fallen solar
I can not get to 1600 on warrior. I have gotten close but then I go against a DK and I die
And DH
This is crazy
rotund trellis
it's really the realm of small peepee pvpers who are too scared for arenas and want the world buffs stuff to feel powerful and shoot 350k chaos bolts from a tiny ledge up in the sky
teal hedge
I can not get to 1600 on warrior. I have gotten close but then I go against a DK...
It's your teammates fault
mild thunder
based arms mindset
fallen solar
here's another confetti
That’s nothing. There is a guy named Conductivity who just world PvPs and he hits 400-500k lava bursts every time
rotund trellis
That’s nothing. There is a guy named Conductivity who just world PvPs and he hit...
I hate it just reading about it
fallen solar
Yeah I’ve learned to avoid people with 14 lines of buffs
the forst shock is whats massive
frost
teal hedge
Big deeps
rotund trellis
It's so painful 49/100, I wanna die IRL
mild thunder
That’s nothing. There is a guy named Conductivity who just world PvPs and he hit...
is this the guy with the YT channel that someone in here was bragging about?
fallen solar
i have no idea
mild thunder
no one cares if you can play mm in wpvp with toys and world buffs bro
rotund trellis
exactly
fallen solar
ive eaten from the ruby feast and i like the 30% mastery buff
nutty
and 10% attack power
mild thunder
ive eaten from the ruby feast and i like the 30% mastery buff
ugh
fallen solar
and then 25% crit damage. lol
rotund trellis
I mean it's the only way they have to win over others at this game
fallen solar
oh and the most important one
rotund trellis
if they such at arena, "here get 30% damage bonus buddy"
rotund trellis
"cause you know, all those arena suckers will be here for the tokens and you can have your revenge for not getting to 1100"
mild thunder
kinda
it's a heal absorb
popping their festering wounds causes the next X amount of healing done to the target to be absorbed
what is the point of putting the sparks quest in thaldraszusz
if there's never any damn world quests in thaldraszusz
fickle forge
(I'm playing prot btw)
Then it's a low chaos bolt
rotund trellis
100/100, I'm free for the week
fallen solar
popping their festering wounds causes the next X amount of healing done to the t...
Interesting
violet fossil
Interesting
also stacks with other ms effects
and heals you for a % of the amount absorbed
near inlet
got it from a brawl as well (trophy chest)
young orchid
That’s nothing. There is a guy named Conductivity who just world PvPs and he hit...
That fucker is so annoying!
lives at frostmourne pvp areas
Him and his guild always run around with max worldpvp buffs as a 5 man
spice hornet
rotund trellis
why
serene kestrel
how yall deal with double ranged?
mild thunder
how yall deal with double ranged?
hit whatever is closest, dont get baited out of healer LoS
heroic leap is your best defensive, just yeet yourself out of enemy LoS/toward healer if you're dying
rotund trellis
those are pve stats
rapid shore
?
urban skiff
those are pve stats
nah, hitting the dummy scales the tooltips up
urban skiff
slaughtering strikes or annihlator?
murloc.io shows the top players using RB but i prefer annie playstyle down here at low ratings
It just feels better
warm quarry
I see
urban skiff
5-man group camping the catalyst, how original
rotund trellis
lol ladder is still absolute shit. at 1800 there's only rank 1s and multi glad. this season is an absolute joke
btw fury says hi
mild thunder
bigpuppa
rapid shore
Everyone's getting it. Tis a bug
Ye, thought so
mild thunder
Arms is just ticking bleed damage padding.
putting the W in mwahi
sage raptor
Arms is just ticking bleed damage padding.
You just described all three warrior specs
magic wing
lol ladder is still absolute shit. at 1800 there's only rank 1s and multi glad. ...
Yup
Not playing rn
Go SoD or pve
No point winning 4-5/6 for 20 rating and 2-3/4 for -50
knotty atlas
DM me the stream.
rugged creek
i'm sorry but who's fucking idea was it to put the revival catalyst in a pvp zone
rapid shore
its pvp zone without WM?
mild thunder
i'm sorry but who's fucking idea was it to put the revival catalyst in a pvp zon...
just… turn… wm… off….
the whole world is a pvp zone
rugged creek
ofc i can turn it off, but it's juts, ur doing ur stuff like enchanting & gear prepping before u 're going out to do actual playing
So it just makes u flying back and forth for no reason, it just stupid
mild thunder
ofc i can turn it off, but it's juts, ur doing ur stuff like enchanting & gear p...
you can toggle wm in valdrakken
it’s a 10 second flight
fickle forge
i'm sorry but who's fucking idea was it to put the revival catalyst in a pvp zon...
Skill issue buddy
If you refuse to turn off WM, then just beat up everyone else
limber relic
DM me the stream.
@knotty atlas sorry for late answer and thank you 😍🙈
magic wing
ofc i can turn it off, but it's juts, ur doing ur stuff like enchanting & gear p...
Get conq gear lol
pure hornet
magic wing
fast meteor
you can toggle wm in valdrakken
peace was never a option 
hot solstice
why execute doenst execute than?
river walrus
Cause blizzard doesn't want it to do so
mild thunder
why execute doenst execute than?
because arms is cringe
violet fossil
execute should show an animation of chopping their heads off
mild thunder
execute should show an animation of chopping their heads off
bro spent too much time on liveleak
brazen pewter
execute should show an animation of chopping their heads off
Somehow reminds me heroes3 of might and magic losing animation
fallen solar
That fucker is so annoying!
Yes! They also have that toxic addon that immediately sends a gesture or whatever
But they can’t be killed
I killed conductivity once because I knocked him off and his glider must have been on CD
You could have Mud and R1 players just swarm them and that group would clap them all sadly
river walrus
That's why world pvp is a joke
fallen solar
The only time I world PvP is when I’m in a Q. It’s so stressful lol
river walrus
I do it for sparks quest and it's always a clown fiesta
mild thunder
are they gonna update the covenant ability icons in 10.2.5 as well? kinda weird now having fel-green adaptive swarm and prime wave while the visuals are changed
fallen estuary
tfw no conq banner 😔
hot solstice
does it work in pvp?
hot solstice
still a dps increase...but the problem is getting it on alts
rotund trellis
Currently sitting on 1300 conquest, waiting for next week to get wep. The worst feeling
obsidian cliff
ok so i need some help, new to PVP warrior and I can't seem to get my hands on hunters, shamans, mages, etc... to attack them they kite me so easily i lose like every time. what am i doing wrong?
fallen estuary
Theyre literally overpowered
green anchor
warrior bad
urban skiff
I swear, half my wins comes from playing in dstance most of the fight and then remembering to switch before a burst
Like they think I'm dumb and get complacent enough to get run over
fallen solar
Is skull splitter worth it?
sage raptor
Hotdog made of fish
magic wing
I swear, half my wins comes from playing in dstance most of the fight and then r...
This is the way
fallen solar
I mean gg. I can’t get past 1500 on arms. I’m 2k on ele and hunter and DH was up there. Arms is ass
fallen solar
Literally BM was easy as shit. Ele was easy as shit. DH was easy as shit. Arms is miserable
Imma hop on UH cause it’s easy as shit
urban skiff
I mean gg. I can’t get past 1500 on arms. I’m 2k on ele and hunter and DH was up...
I called it early, fury > arms
fallen solar
I called it early, fury > arms
I have to agree with you. Fury damage with 4 set is nutty
urban skiff
we died so faast
mystic palm
Am I missing something or do you essentially have to choose, at least for the first few weeks, between pve and pvp? I've been pushing pve, so all of my vault slots and catalyst charges have gone towards pve so now I'm locked out of PVP tier for weeks?
fickle forge
Don't think it's the bracket bro
fickle forge
Am I missing something or do you essentially have to choose, at least for the fi...
Just get 2 set tier on arms and you're fine
urban skiff
Don't think it's the bracket bro
my badness is constant
only variable is everything else
there is no improving on perfect mindlessness
fickle forge
there is no improving on perfect mindlessness
Bro I have no clue what you just said
fickle forge
Zercher is def an S-tier troll
atomic orchid
urban skiff
https://tenor.com/view/cant-unsee-how-to-unsee-blind-homer-simpson-simpsons-gif-...
Better?
mild thunder
stop
mild thunder
urban skiff
Can't cope without hope
mild thunder
kargish coping that zercher is coping
urban skiff
and hope is beautiful
Hópe on the other hand is a bit of a~~ dick~~ restu druid
But that's ok, I'm sure he just had a bad day, or a cat got on his keyboard and walked him across the map for a restealth and then made him pop right out into getting mind controlled and then the cat made him type some mean things at me
happens to the best of us
fickle forge
Fury warr yip yap
urban skiff
For every arms doing a yip we do a yip yap
in the end we're all furries just yipping
this is going to look so incredibly stupid on my gigadwarf, I can't wait
pure hornet
Any one tryed Throne and liberty?
pure hornet
This not an typical mmo.. its new gen graphics, up there with Ashez of Creation. But yeah other than graphics heard it is nothing special
fallen estuary
literally osrs has better gameplay than any other new mmo
and look at its graphics
you will literally waste days and months just playing F2p before you even have the thought of buying membership
mild thunder
graphics are beyond unimportant for mmos
rotund trellis
graphics are beyond unimportant for mmos
this. To me the worst graphics the better honestly. I don't like overcrowded DF environments. Gimme vanilla all day
teal hedge
Arms is solid, but it has a different learning curve compared to the other dps specs
fast meteor
Am I missing something or do you essentially have to choose, at least for the fi...
Do what I do I have 2 warriors 1 focus for pvp and the other pve that way choosing from vault is less stressful
fickle forge
Eyir sucks tbh
wraith totemBOT
fuk u @fickle forge
fallen estuary
robots strike back
real aspen
Does the legendary make any difference in PvP?
eternal hare
ilvl boost
real aspen
I know it’s like 10 ilvls
does it feel like a considerable increase for anyone who has it?
With the passive and the active
fast meteor
I have manny matches that I could have won if my BT hit for 5k more and probably many other warriors too so any increase is good trust in the ilvl if anything
fallen solar
Well I now play fury
It’s loads better than arms
Arms still cool though. Fury just does more damage and that’s what wins
rotund trellis
It’s loads better than arms
weary haven
Well I now play fury
fickle forge
It’s loads better than arms
mild thunder
real aspen
How is fury in PvP rn?
mild thunder
bro where are all these fury gooners coming from
wheat jay
always been there
they want fury to be good cuz its braindead easy
and fast apm
zug zug
then they cry about some wrist problems cuz they're weak and got strawman arms
hot solstice
anyway we can get it without raiding?
eternal hare
it doesnt work in pvp
mild thunder
they want fury to be good cuz its braindead easy
so is arms
the biggest lie still perpetuated by this discord is that arms is in any notable way harder than fury
rotund trellis
Arms is literally 3 buttons with the tier set
wheat jay
so is arms
peels tho
mild thunder
if anything peeling is easier as arms because you have significantly better (and easy to use) tools
mild thunder
yes, but i wouldnt say that makes arms harder
wheat jay
it does
the more tools you have the harder the class is
depends on tools too of course
same as why sub or survi are harder than other classes
or feral
compared to lets say fury
mild thunder
id disagree, i think having access to stuff like bladestorm makes arms significantly more forgiving and in turn easier
mild thunder
no one runs duel
you dont need to be good at using banner to excel at arms
skill ceiling? yea absolutely arms is higher
skill floor, i dont think so
at least not in any significant way
wheat jay
we're talking about ceiling
not floor
cuz we aim to be at the ceiling
not to lie on the floor
mild thunder
im talking about floor
mild thunder
talking about what's "easier" = skill floor
talking about what's harder to perfect = skill ceiling
hot solstice
cba ppl complaining about rotation r so funny
hot solstice
looks like u need to complete some fatality in mk
mild thunder
you know there's a middleground, right?
not every spec needs to be giga iq 10 steps ahead sv-style
but arms is painfully dull rn
most high-rated arms mains i know 100% agree lol
hot solstice
so good I have to think about position or cd trade that I have no time deciding what damage button to press next
truth be spoken bs shit must dissapear
2nd they need to do something with slam
or
wheat jay
Imo delete bs
hot solstice
why delete
hot solstice
just make it cc counterplay
mild thunder
just make it a flat 90s cooldown that's actually designed as a skill expression ability
mild thunder
Make ravager into a new cd
ravager is cringe and boring
hurr durr positional ability that people walk out of
hot solstice
and add disarm counterplay if u make it big dps cd
wheat jay
not source of damage
Tbh, make warbreaker apply CS in aoe and give it a bs aoe effect
Just blades spinning around you
While active you're immune to slows/roots
Done
hot solstice
ye just give us blademaster coppies
hot solstice
like wtf druid can spam trents
every spec in the game have AI pet shit
except warior
wheat jay
Dh
mild thunder
there's tons they need to do tbh, arms is in dire straits of design... delete battlelord, nerf rage gen, remove ignore pain + buff dstance, make modifiers matter, add extra rage dumps
rebalance the damage around not spam-resetting ms every 2nd global
wheat jay
So, reverse it back to legion design?
hot solstice
make execute kill ppl
rotund trellis
ingore pain is the most lazy ass design one can get
mild thunder
i didnt play legion so cant confirm but if it's similar then yea
wheat jay
Execute cant kill people as long as its rotational ability
hot solstice
legion with short cds and duration burts was og
mild thunder
make execute kill ppl
this would mean deleting massacre, sudden death and removing stuff like exploiter
wheat jay
It was
mild thunder
you just cant have all that
hot solstice
at least give me old execute animation with massacre
mild thunder
cool, bring it back
hot solstice
cant go 2m from target without canceling animation
mild thunder
stuff like battlelord is so, so, so boring dude
wheat jay
Your mastery increased cs dmg and dmg during cs
mild thunder
Your mastery increased cs dmg and dmg during cs
this is so much better wtfff
hot solstice
and cs procked like overpower
wheat jay
Your rage spent had a chance to reset cs
Ye
So you had 100% uptime
If it didnt proc, you had warbreaker as a separate ability
mild thunder
also, arms should be a crit/mast spec
wheat jay
Ye, cs cast increased dmg of next execute or ms by 30%
mild thunder
it should always be a crit/mast spec
arms stacking haste is cringe and lame and feels wrong
hot solstice
and added extra crit chance too
hot solstice
u stack that bastard rogue
mild thunder
alright alright im sold
hot solstice
and next battlecry dude goes 50-0
mild thunder
sounds infinitely better than DF arms
mild thunder
i'd actually consider rerolling back if they brought back legion arms
wheat jay
Rotation in aoe was fun
mild thunder
legion arms + wod fury = goated
wheat jay
Your cleave increased dmg of whirlwind by 10% per stack, 5 stacks max
Or 20% i dont remember
You played rend too
hot solstice
u know what was fun? spamming ww vs some udk who spammed zombies
wheat jay
And slam was doing damage since it was basically overpower
mild thunder
there's just this giga-cringe trend of blizzard adding in automation to specs to "smoothe" out the gameplay, but they keep adding more and more and it ruins specs so badly
hot solstice
and had infinite sweeping strike on 3 targets with talent but only on mortal and execute
mild thunder
sabretooth, battlelord, TotM etc.
wheat jay
Off-cs ability that increased dmg of mortal by 15% per stack
Off-cd
If you had too much rage you'd use it
hot solstice
wasnt played last ssn though
hot solstice
old shadow of the colosus
wheat jay
In pvp it wasnt that good
Yeeeeeeee
Fam old warbreaker animation with void spikes from the ground
Jizzing at the memory of it
hot solstice
why dont they just make glyphs with different animations for all abilities
wheat jay
Ye would be nice
wheat jay
Frontflip fem undead xD
mild thunder
for example with racial special animations
old human male overhead swing and male orc slamdown were sooo good
hot solstice
old human male overhead swing and male orc slamdown were sooo good
btw...in sl orc had that animation on slam
wheat jay
To make every spec different from everything else
hot solstice
but idk why they removed it
mild thunder
I dunno i think legion was peak class/spec design
for some specs
for others it absolutely ruined them
thankfully they completely reverted the enh rework from legion
fury still ruined 
uhdk also ruined imo
enh went from being one of the more unique, badass specs in wod to the cringiest, most generic build-spend spec in legion
wheat jay
Fuck enh tho
mild thunder
wod enh was incredibly fun
and it's pretty fun now imo, i just hate it in pvp
only has 1 comp and wins off gimmicks
mild thunder
god i love sub
mild thunder
I thought it was still like 3 or 4
i guess you can include beast cleave and stuff, but that's a stretch imo
sharp meteor
i guess you can include beast cleave and stuff, but that's a stretch imo
I was thinking sub and demo
or like windwalker
mild thunder
i guess they might be good, i just never see them
99.99% of enh i see are turbo cleavers... i think i saw one enh/feral comp last season
sharp meteor
psure both of those have been better than turby
idk about ww only see doriter player that
mild thunder
i think ww/enh was pretty decent, you right
i remember versing a few sub/enh and the burst was absolutely terrifying
i just dont know how you would ever convince a sub rogue to play that xD
fallen solar
Dropped down from 1578 to 1484 for arms. I keep gaining for fury
Fury zug zug
I get it. Arms has utility. It’s just has no damage!
rotund trellis
I get it. Arms has utility. It’s just has no damage!
rotund trellis
Cleave in a 2v2 vs warrior??
bu to answer your question, almost no cleave.
that is a little above 1800
carmine grove
2x op 2x execute full storm buff smash and avatar on a cloth user
lavish quest
pvp goals done, cya next season
Your goal was just the vicious mount?
gaunt notch
Your goal was just the vicious mount?
well i have generally 3 goals each season, mount, 1800 rating for elite armor and the conquest armor.. conquest armor can always be bought later, i hit 1800+ rating the first week
though to be fair the elite armor is kinda ugly imo this season so i didnt care too much for it
rotund trellis
you hit 1800 week one? jesus grats
gaunt notch
might of been week 2, got super lucky and got my 4 piece so i bought the conquest weapon and it did a bit of carrying
rotund trellis
on my druid to decompress. 6-0 > 17 (seventeen) ranks
blizz is smoking heavy crack
brazen pewter
i just dont know how you would ever convince a sub rogue to play that xD
no i am not convinced
would rather go with destro this season if not mage the old frieend
limber relic
2x op 2x execute full storm buff smash and avatar on a cloth user
Gotta love doing that on clothies
mild thunder
i remember being excited when they said there'll be trophy of strife catchup in 10.2
why did they have to implement it so poorly
mint pulsar
god i love sub
you running 4set? subs running 4set now or nah? 4set seems really low damage
mild thunder
you running 4set? subs running 4set now or nah? 4set seems really low damage
there's virtually zero downside, your tier set is mostly bis/near bis stats
so yes
mild thunder
everything but head?
pre much
4set also very good if you play outlaw
assa is the only one that doesnt run it iirc
mint pulsar
Ty
mint pulsar
as a dad gamer i dont want to learn outlaw, scared cuz people say its hard 😉
fickle forge
Man plays rogue and says he doesn't want to learn anything hard
Surely an assassa enthusiast
teal hedge
Look, all I'm saying is assa feels good
fickle forge
Look, all I'm saying is assa feels good
teal hedge
https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerd-meme-radar-gif-26497624
"You will not play assa"
mint pulsar
Man plays rogue and says he doesn't want to learn anything hard
or someone whos been playing sub for 10 years and not interested in something new
fickle forge
or someone whos been playing sub for 10 years and not interested in something ne...
How does man main sub and then say he refuses to learn outlaw cause it's hard
That's a downgrade lmao
Like going from arms to fury
Or survival to BM
mild thunder
as a dad gamer i dont want to learn outlaw, scared cuz people say its hard 😉
in pve, outlaw is incredibly easy but people say it's the hardest spec in the game
in pvp, i'd say outlaw is definitely harder than assa and honestly not that much of a step down from sub atm
you have mostly all the same tools as sub, excluding duel, but less solo-kill power
mild thunder
That's a downgrade lmao
i dont really see why - outlaw has all the same tools and most of the same responsibilities as sub, but less solo impact without sub oneshots
arms - fury loses bladestorm, banner, sharpen etc. and reduces your responsbilities
fickle forge
i dont really see why - outlaw has all the same tools and most of the same respo...
That's only because of tuning
When outlaw is actually good, it has infinite walls and PvEs you down like other overtuned melees do, but hits 50 CC chains per DR
The highest damp I've ever had is vs outlaw
mild thunder
outlaw is good right now tho?
fickle forge
Hardly anyone plays it cause sub and assassa are better
mild thunder
it's one of the best melee in pvp, it's just not SL outlaw
wheat jay
why play S tier when you can play S tier that does more dmg?
mild thunder
i also dont think assa is better tbh
fickle forge
it's one of the best melee in pvp, it's just not SL outlaw
Idk if it is, but if true then no one has picked up on it yet
I've only seen outlaw in 2s
mild thunder
Idk if it is, but if true then no one has picked up on it yet
pretty sure both whaazz and kalvish have been playing it to push
outlaw just sucks in shuffle because of its design
fickle forge
pretty sure both whaazz and kalvish have been playing it to push
They have many times, but even then nobody picks it up
Whaazz and Raiku were slaying with outlaw + arcane RMP, but nobody Q'd it anyway
mild thunder
well yea because there are a few specs in the game that despite power, never become super popular
like survival
mild thunder
my point isnt that everyone will play outlaw because it's busted, but that it's already a top-tier melee
fickle forge
Yah but Idk if we can even verify that
Cause its rep is so low
The samples are low
mild thunder
because it's unpopular
fickle forge
Yah so it's hard to tell really
mild thunder
sv was also super unpopular last season, i still think it was good (ish)
fickle forge
Not for 3s surely
mild thunder
tbf the issue with survival in 3s wasnt necessarily survival as a spec
the issue was its comps
imo
fickle forge
Which comes from the issues of survival as a spec
Survival doesn't synergize with a lot of specs
It doesn't enable anyone
wheat jay
survi is just a solo setup spec lol
but now the setup sucks ass
well maybe not solo setup per se
but overall your pressuire came from cc every 20s
its solo setup now with explosive being big cd...
fickle forge
Probably why survival plays jungle or thug
wheat jay
ye
mild thunder
Which comes from the issues of survival as a spec
welll, this and other specs that pair with it (like feral) having major issues that made stuff like jungle not work
fickle forge
welll, this and other specs that pair with it (like feral) having major issues t...
Yah but who benefits from having a survival hunter on their team lmao
wheat jay
feral having issues like doing highest dmg in the game on cleave for two seasons
mild thunder
Yah but who benefits from having a survival hunter on their team lmao
the survival hunter 🤓
wheat jay
survi doesn't do shit now
fickle forge
It's other specs that come in and help out the survival hunter to form a full comp
wheat jay
its just a dmg/trap bot
mild thunder
feral having issues like doing highest dmg in the game on cleave for two seasons
feral having issues like dying to a gentle breeze lol
fickle forge
Like KFC brings warrior peels for survival's otherwise lackluster walls
mild thunder
if you're letting a feral run rampant and otudamage you for free, that's a skill issue
wheat jay
even if you do, good feral will still deliver their dmg
mild thunder
and die for it, they're the easiest spec in the game to punish for playing aggro
wheat jay
bruh
fickle forge
I mean feral dies
mild thunder
that's why ferals have opted to play with casters or stuff like mm now - because they draw attention away from feral
something sv cant do
fickle forge
But that's what jungle is now, all out aggression
wheat jay
as does almost every spec, feral can also deliver highest cleave dps
so ye, its got issues
fickle forge
But then it goes back to the issue that no one synergizes with survival
wheat jay
but have people that excel at it, and its unstoppable
mild thunder
as does almost every spec, feral can also deliver highest cleave dps
which is why i made the point that feral only really plays mm jungle now, because mm is a turret spec that draws attention away from the cat
wheat jay
you could play kitty too
fickle forge
Kitty is giga ass apparently
mild thunder
were feral tankier, it would have an easier time playing sv jungle because it would be less reliant on another spec taking attention
wheat jay
sadga
mild thunder
you could play kitty too
kitty is giga ass apparently
wheat jay
iirc last time feral was tanky, jungle was the strongest comp in the game
shadowlands
mild thunder
good
wheat jay
feral/bm was the most boring shit to play against
mild thunder
id rather jungle be the top comp than ret/warr or aug/x
wheat jay
cuz feral did all the work while being immortal, and bm did all the dmg with 2 buttons
mild thunder
iirc last time feral was tanky, jungle was the strongest comp in the game
this was also pre-cc nerfs and pre-healer trinket change
the game is different now
fickle forge
When jungle is good cause of tankiness, then kitty cleave is also good
fickle forge
Survival could do with a better damage profile
Maybe then it'd work with some specs
mild thunder
when survi is good, survi comps are still ass
real
wheat jay
Survival could do with a better damage profile
you mean like shadowlands dmg profile?
where it did very high consistent dmg?
and low burst
mild thunder
i swear i just dont necessarily think survival is "weak"... it just doesnt have any good options for 3s
wheat jay
so you won games with pure dmg pressure
mild thunder
it's felt way better in shuffle
mild thunder
well ok this season it's weak
wheat jay
explosive shot doing how much
mild thunder
last season imo it wasnt
wheat jay
100k?
mild thunder
as much
mild thunder
explosive shot doing how much
this is why we rerolled
wheat jay
fam
i have DAMAGE
constant damage
consistent
at all times
i don't need to win chess game with a healer to play it
mild thunder
outlaw damage is good, it's just not dh damage
wheat jay
btw yesterday I had a GIGACHADa prist in shuffle
i threw trap at him, when he was in angel
so when he's out he'd get cc'd
he pulled his dps to him
mild thunder
bigbrain
wheat jay
the second that dps got pre-cog from warr missing kick
and negated my whole cc
that was fucking pog
ngl, didn't even feel bad
mild thunder
see? this is why i respect priests
wheat jay
man deserved to dodge that
mild thunder
priest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rdruid
mild thunder
fw and rdruid
are so lame
i wouldnt mind rdruid if it still catweaved and did cool shit
magic wing
Pala is annoying
mild thunder
instead of being an afk HoT and afk pet healer at the same time
magic wing
Immunes everything
magic wing
Druid also, press tranq and go afk
fickle forge
where it did very high consistent dmg?
Or maybe just brought some PvP essential stuff
Like why is arms functional with every class all the time
Cause it has a bunch of peels and MS while being at least mediocre on offense and defense
wheat jay
Or maybe just brought some PvP essential stuff
Survi brought cc and consistent dmg
And niche defensives
Which was enough to make KFC a semi-functional comp
We were at losing position at the start of every game
And had to outplay
fickle forge
Survi brought cc and consistent dmg
But everyone has CC now lmao
mint pulsar
i really hope they remove most of the fcking micro-cc ingame, its so annoying
and im not even playing caster most of the time
magic wing
Its so bad
Especially frost mage
And lock micro fears
Also remove idiotic health absorbs on every class
mint pulsar
i mean as a caster its not uncommon to have to deal with all the things combined, its often 2-3 kicks to deal with, totems (grounding, that thing that moves you and root totem), stun x2-3, grip half a yard to interupt, intim shout to interupt, other roots, gouge, coils, silence-stings etcetc
in combination with dealing with LOS
then its back to trying to juke again (i mean youd have to weave juking in 4-5 times in above)
as mentioned, i dont play caster that much, im more concerned for the health of the game and i think its bad - hard to get into and hard to motivate people (probably specially lower brackets but thats an important backet for a healthy game)
fickle forge
And they still win cause the 2nd caster is free casting
wheat jay
They should simplify pvp
mint pulsar
casters that dont cast win (boomy/ele/destro)
wheat jay
Not by adding 50 forms of micro cc
mint pulsar
casting classes is dead
wheat jay
But by changing dmg and healing profiles
Dmg profiles are dogshit
Healing profiles are even worse, but they had to made that way to counteract oneshots
They had to make unhealable dmg healable xD
So people just go 100-10 and 10-100 in one global
mint pulsar
its fun cuz casting casters = dead (boomy/ele/destro/demo still work czu no hardcasts)
and the OP melee DH damage profile = ranged, same as ret
dont want to sound to whiny about it, just an interesting game design atm
magic wing
They should simplify pvp
Yep
They cleaned the stupid 100 borrowed power things but it still sucks
fickle forge
casting classes is dead
Destro, demo, affli, SP and frost still cast
mint pulsar
i guess im just to old in the game, yes they cast but not the way a caster works to me, or has worked historically
and affli/sp are, at best, very niched and not that succesful atm, frost kinda the same as arcane just superior
Destro cast about as much as a DH with eyebeam, demo a bit more yeah
wheat jay
They cleaned the stupid 100 borrowed power things but it still sucks
Borrowed power wasnt related to cc
We got more CC this expansion than in the last 3 combined
Im fine with mobility, but not rly fine with micro-cc and how rogue can for example triple stun me
Kidney into two cheaps
Into gouge to have another global of dmg
fickle forge
i guess im just to old in the game, yes they cast but not the way a caster works...
Wdym, all their damage is reliant on getting casts off
wheat jay
Or lock having 20 diff small ccs on negative cooldown
fickle forge
Destro had a period earlier in DF where it never casted and lived off of Incinerate and Shadowburn, but I don't see that build that much anymore
Also frost has twice the rep of arcane, but both specs gotta hardcast to get dmg off
wheat jay
Also, when are we getting 8s cd on spammable cc?
For every single spammable cc in the game
8s cd on poly
On cheapshot
On cyclone
On fear
No more triple dr fear just to stop my one global of damage
No more spamming that shit
No more poly into dispel into another poly because they can just spam it forever
Then we can remove all the small shits like frost mages doing some roots whenever they land a skill
They have like 10 different roots man
They all have different icons too xD
magic wing
Its bcuz rogues were crying like little bitches they cant stunlock ppl
wheat jay
Like
magic wing
Btw if you play human you still go trinket ?
thick reef
Btw if you play human you still go trinket ?
Depends on comp
magic wing
For SS
magic wing
Then you have to buy both trinks tho
thick reef
You will either be forcing Trink, or swapping to something else
magic wing
I might go DI then lol
thick reef
You and every other warrior
urban skiff
just play without trinket
once you use it, it's dead item slot
better to never use a trinket and just go ham with double trinket
don't even be a human
also fury is superior spec
teal hedge
Zercher you truly have a beautiful mind
gaunt dune
Guys, where can I see the current build for arms warrior?
fallen estuary
damn bros, sittin in que while playing the new doom 30th anni map pack, just 6-0ed a lobby
feels fuckn good rn
elfin surge
@fallen estuary
fallen estuary
YE
teal hedge
The priests are not ok
Dude is pumping 300 apm
What the fuck
On the worse of the two specs as well
fallen estuary
who cares about healers
teal hedge
who cares about healers
mild ember
who cares about healers
Lmao
fallen estuary
Guys, where can I see the current build for arms warrior?
there you go
gaunt dune
there you go
Ty
fallen estuary
np bro
rotund trellis
damn bros, sittin in que while playing the new doom 30th anni map pack, just 6-0...
is it a new release?? Ior is it the "SIGIL" thing?
fallen estuary
this sunday it was released
SIGIL was romeros own work
this is a community effort that was both endorsed by romero and carmack
im so fucking pissed i couldnt buy the sigil collectors edition
that shirt alone was worth the 300$
fallen estuary
is it a new release?? Ior is it the "SIGIL" thing?
here you go if you wanna play the map pack
its actually fucking good and the music is top notch
its free btw
rotund trellis
I'll give it a shot tonight when I'm back from work, ty!
fallen estuary
yea bro youre gonna love this map pack
so many smooth level transitions and amazing designs
this map design is really good. way better than the lulluby map
urban skiff
yea bro youre gonna love this map pack
Kinda makes me want to play HeXen again
lavish quest
there you go
Weird build
fallen estuary
its meta trust me
urban skiff
Stop build shaming. All builds are beautiful
urban skiff
What is prot, if not armless arms?
lavish quest
I don't think I've seen any warriors use the build he gave you lol
modern veldt
wonder if the current tier bonus for arms will be built into a talent or built into sudden death after dragonflight
urban skiff
wonder if the current tier bonus for arms will be built into a talent or built i...
Definitely a talent
people seem to enjoy it a lot and lord knows many of our talents are kinda bland
lavish quest
Sudden death should probably be renamed to sudden minor annoyance
What's actually dying to execute?
tribal wedge
amber heron
Any fury players?
Im experimenting with so many builds and im not sure on what to do
If u play slam and annihaltor
It feels good into cloth
But in some other lobbies if u dont have uptime
I dont thibk annihlator is good
And opting for raging blow is prob better
thick reef
You never play RB this season
amber heron
U have a problem living?
thick reef
No lol
I stick to people like napalm to kids
2 Charges
Leap+Bounding
2 Intervenes
If you can't stick to people you have a mobility issue
amber heron
dude uve never played into a good loc then
thick reef
Lmao
amber heron
Bc if ur playing with a good healer that static totem u away
Then u really r not hitting thst man for more rhen 5 sec
thick reef
You should be blowing his O ring out if you have him for 5 sec
Because thats when you pop the big dam
thick reef
You have Wrecking
thick reef
The fucking absorb?
thick reef
Right, their 30% DR that you still don't care about
Because while that Warlock is spamming Drain you just keep hitting him
amber heron
Do u run slam
thick reef
the annihilator build is not good anymore
Tierset.exe
mild thunder
yea?
annihilator doesnt give you more tier set BTs
or make them hit harder
the big benefit of the annihilator build, and the only real reason it became a thing, was because it gave you BT spam for self-healingf
you no longer get that
rb build is just more consistent damage and more burst
mild thunder
ok
@amber heron this is a fine build to start for fury
just weave in BTs when you need to fill globals and/or have tier set procs
mild thunder
you dont need slam
mild thunder
I think this is bad
it's more-or-less what most top players run
mild thunder
yes, but they tend to run what's best
mild thunder
alright nevermind
amber heron
Smexxin kinda knows
mild thunder
run whatever dumbass build you want
mild thunder
you're right, having a photo of someone else's roided out arm is so much cooler
cats are badass
sleek wave
just weave in BTs when you need to fill globals and/or have tier set procs
is anha that bad right?
mild thunder
is anha that bad right?
nah, the top players just dont know the secret tech
or something
sleek wave
nah, the top players just dont know the secret tech
whats the secret tech?
mild thunder
whats the secret tech?
there is none... running storm of swords + no annihilator is okay, but it's not "secret tech" and it's not particularly amazing
sleek wave
there is none... running storm of swords + no annihilator is okay, but it's not ...
annihlator hits like a wet noodle for some reason