pvp

[magic wing]

And never reach 1800

[fallen estuary]

We will push on

[lucid cloud]

Hey i'm completely fresh to arms pvp, do you press rend at all or just soley spread it through thunderclap?
Same question for slam, should i keybind that?

[wheat jay]

Clap

Slam is for killing totems

The ones with 0 hp

[lucid cloud]

Thanks fam

[fallen estuary]

They need to make slams gcd half to actually make it good lmao

So many buffs but still damn weak lol

[fickle forge]

You're just a hater bro

Slam fat 🙏

[modern veldt]

how high do saddles stack in bags?

[lucid cloud]

Do any of the warrior specs even use slam lol i've not played it long but it doesn't seem like it

[fallen estuary]

They dont lmao

Literally use rend on totems. You get OP procs from better rage usage

[fickle forge]

Annihilator fury does

Zhrey memed with it on arms, it didn't seem like completely horrible, even if it was memey

[static mortar]

I did it boys

They made me claw my way up from 1300 mmr for some reason

[hybrid vale]

for crafting pvp gear, what exactly do i do?

the trophies are from the quest and if i'm behind, I can get them from a vendor?

[static mortar]

You can purchase the trophies for 3500 honor

[hybrid vale]

ok cool

cause i wanna get into pvp as prot this season

but i also mostly raid/m+ so i was gonan craft two off pieces with pvp ilvl on them

[lavish quest]

Those trophies aren't for crafting gear btw. Just for upgrading the world pvp gear

[thick reef]

He has joined the cult

[thick reef]

Congrats homie

[spice hornet]

What?

You can’t rend totems they are immune?

[hybrid vale]

I've been apart of the cult since wrath

[fallen estuary]

rend has instant damage lmao itll kill a totem

[violet fossil]

they’re not immune to dot damage anymore I thought

[thick reef]

They aren't

You have to target it though

[drowsy sparrow]

Hello everyone, as Arms, if I don't have the set pieces yet, is it still worth it to play Rend+Clap? Or should I skip those and go for something else until I got 2/4 set pieces?

[thick reef]

90% sure you Rend+Clap anyway

[lavish quest]

Yes. We used it last patch before this tier, now it's just better.

Only exception (last patch) was if you knew you would only single target. Now you basically use it all the time even if just pets are getting rend for procs

[mint pulsar]

thoughts on unhinged vs hurricane?

i hate not being able to cancel BS

why do people prefer hurri?

[muted surge]

more focused damage

probably

and mv speed

wohhooo

[mint pulsar]

if u unhinge 1 target, i guess it still mortasl strikes

but is that less or more damage than hurri?

or is it building up the MS after the bladestorm with the str-stack thats "important"?

[spice hornet]

Unhinged is unreliable

Hurricane gives huge str bonus

And move speed

Nearly every comp in this game has some form of minion spawning

[drowsy sparrow]

Man Arms has too many buttons for my brain 🥲

How often would you say you cast Rend instead of using just Thunder Clap? Could I safely remove it from my hotbar and not lose a ton of potential DPS? I feel like you'd only use Rend if TC is on cooldown and they dispel your Rend or something 😄

[lavish quest]

Unhinged is bad. Hurricane has a trade off. Sometimes warriors will run neither (because they need to cancel bladestorm, but unhinged still bad.)

[lavish quest]

Rarely.

Almost never.

Why would you not clap cheeks if you could instead clap cheeks?

[fickle forge]

Unhinged into UDK+BM+Rsham

[spice hornet]

Based

[fickle forge]

🤔

305k seems fine

[drowsy sparrow]

Just had a match where all 8 players on enemy team in brawl were bots 😦 that's really sad to see

[lavish quest]

They call it comp stomp

[mild thunder]

uhdk damage is gross right now

wait, is that a 300k heal???

[rotund trellis]

wtf happened to this game

this is a joke right?

[wheat jay]

Oh this looks like shadowlands xD

[rotund trellis]

this makes me want to puke

[ocean ingot]

any different build I should use until I have 4p?

[magic wing]

Fury seems to pump

[rotund trellis]

lol

[magic wing]

Just tunnel a mf and do top dmg

Only drawback is roots and weak defensives

[rotund trellis]

"ONLY"

[magic wing]

Yeah just go gnome and its fixed

[fallen estuary]

uhhh holy fuck

have you guys tried skullsplitter?

i think it makes the 2set work

and its really fucking good

Sweeping into skullsplitter bladestorm is utterly powerful

during skullsplitter you are just SPAMMING SD procs

[tribal wedge]

i tried it first week, and it seems very mid so idk

[bright stream]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/18fi7uq/so_weve_come_to_this_great_job_blizzard/
bro are you okay?

wasnt this game at like 1200 cr?

[rotund trellis]

no this is 1600 sorry

hahah it was NOT fun

[fallen estuary]

3 sub rogues seems kinda op in 3s

[bright stream]

yeah so basically 1200 cr 😛

[bright stream]

if they time the 3 300k evis I can see it being problematic

for sure

[rotund trellis]

I was actually thinking on how to beat it, we had a pala and a druid

[bright stream]

especially at lower CR when rogues just bully bad healers

[rotund trellis]

in the SL arena

I tried a couple of bladestorms

to no avail

stood in cons, no luck

[bright stream]

realistically - trinket first opener and do enough damage that they dont make it to their second major go

[rotund trellis]

they waited like 3 minutes before the opening

[bright stream]

sub does very mid damage between the big goes

did you collect the invis eyes?

[rotund trellis]

yep I was thinking about that, but they went for random saps, then waited minutes

[fallen estuary]

3x shadowy on the healer while other 2 deals with dps

[rotund trellis]

etc

tracking our BS and cons cds

[bright stream]

does it not DR?

[fallen estuary]

i mean shadowy is like 6 sec and undispellable and theres no DR

[bright stream]

that would be kinda hilarious

lol

[fallen estuary]

there is no DR for shadowy

[bright stream]

now there's something to genuinely complain about

and evis hitting that hard is stupid but

outside of that subs basically fine

[rotund trellis]

I mean, it's a meme comp for sure, and reddit is so dense they didn't even read my "funny" flair, but if you think about it it could work if you got 3 great rogue players

not viable at high cred, but it could work for a climb

[bright stream]

the reddit flipflops between big egos of 40 year old lifers and normal human takes

[rotund trellis]

hahah so true

honestly I feel the game is pretty balanced, but this season is dead in terms of attendance

[bright stream]

people are making it out to be worse than it was in previous seasons, and buying into stupid clickbait garbage from venruki and co

[rotund trellis]

may be the ranks and late expansion fatigue, but we just got a major patch, and even in standard ladder, there's very few games

[fallen estuary]

imagine taking opinions from reddit seriously nice or critical

[bright stream]

the queues and ratings are very similar to what they were like in both S1 and S2

at this stage in the season

[rotund trellis]

I don't play SS much, mainly 2s and 3s, so I don't know about cues too much, but I got some 30-40 mins as dps

[bright stream]

very normal if you're doing one of these: popular spec, higher rating, off peak time queues

combine 2-3 of them and hitting 40 minutes is normal

though even then I've seen most of my queues between 20-30, with only off peak pushing it above 30, and only one queue or so above 40ish

[rotund trellis]

what rank?

[bright stream]

2100-2200 unholy dk/arms war week 1 and onwards, 1600-1800 mage/warlock/shaman

longest queues I've seen were on the lower ranked toons at like midnight aus time on a monday

[rotund trellis]

ah not bad then, even at 2100 you got only 20 miins?

[bright stream]

yeah that's been my experience, granted I haven't played either of them much this week specifically

maybe there's a huge difference between wednesday and today lmao

[rotund trellis]

didn't cue ss today, working on my 3s ranking

I wanna park 2s and 3s at 1800 and wait a couple of weeks to try and push to 2100

[rotund trellis]

hows unholy? I'm considering using the boost/finish leveling one. Seems fun, but slow

[violet fossil]

fun

a lot of damage

[bright stream]

I've only played the coil build this season but its very fun, kinda reminds me of some of the older firemage where you'd get a big pyro

[rotund trellis]

nice, I'll give it a shot then. Also it has a great mog this season

[fallen estuary]

jesus fuck dhs still hit like boulders

testing out arms and holy shit theyre no different

nerfs literally only nerfed them by 5% lmfao

week 1 they were doing 70-80k constant now its 65k lmao this company

[bright stream]

still big pressure but they tend to automatically win a lot less

feels less like being held hostage by the healers round after round

[pure hornet]

In 2’s what is the best stats? I have 5800 vers, 3700 haste, 3600 mastery

[spice hornet]

Nobody talks about it in raw numbers like that

[magic wing]

Try fury bro

[bright stream]

I'm running around 30% haste but I've seen as low as 20% mentioned

[pure hornet]

Thank you

[bright stream]

paladin cheating/afk at 2100

cool times

[limber relic]

i go all in mastery. feels amazing

🥲

[gaunt notch]

11% more till the mount

[pure hornet]

Ill try it

[mild ember]

I'm definitely going to start using more mastery. It's only like a percent difference and you hit better with mastery.

(I watched Seifs vid) 😆

[drowsy sparrow]

How can I get my set pieces the PvP iLevel upgrade ("Increases item level to 489 in Arenas and Battlegrounds.")? Is it the verdant trophies? The trophies say they only work on crafted gear but maybe that's just an in-game miss? 🙂

[rotund trellis]

IT'S UPDATED AUTOMTICALLY EVERY TIME YOU ENTER PVP

caps sorry

[drowsy sparrow]

Ah I see, had no idea it worked like that, thanks 🙂

[rotund trellis]

(including the pvp target dummies)

[lavish quest]

If you mean the tier set peices. You either get pvp tier from vault, or you use converter to make pvp gear into tier

If I'm understanding your question correctly

If it doesn't say the scaling thing, it won't scale

[mental knoll]

so i guess the sure-fire-way of getting 30 to 1 hour SS queues to pop is to walk away to go to the bathroom for 1 minute, come back and see you missed your queue

happened twice to me this morning 😠

[lavish quest]

Yeah, ya ever try to bait it? Walk away and come back 30 seconds later to see if it's popping? Lol

[mental knoll]

that i am gonna try once i hit the 45 minute mark again in my next queue lol

[merry drift]

All g each match ended with someone leaving

👍

1/20 matches actually go all the way for me lol

[magic wing]

Dead game lol

[drowsy sparrow]

I'm talking about the molten vanguard set, I thought you got it from Fyrrak raid? Or are there two variants of that set, one from raid and one from vault?

[lavish quest]

So it's the same gear. But if it doesn't originate from pvp, it doesn't scale. Aka, if it doesn't say it scales in pvp at the bottom of it, it doesn't.

The only tier that does has to come from a pvp source. Only 2 ways of doing that. You RNG tier in your pvp slots of vault. Or you convert pvp gear into tier

With the catalyst

[fallen estuary]

Lmfao i love shit warriors on ladder talking shit blaming them being trolled for their losses

dude doesnt HT skyfurys and shaman ass blasts him

"oh im being trolled hard"

i talk shit and he tells me he has 1021313 glad mounts and i got 0, i tell him i got a job that pays more than a wendys grill and he freaks the fuck out LMAO

then he ignores me and i cant talk shit back and goes and talks shit back

typical area52 and tich players 😔

dawgs like i got 100k in savings as a 20yo like LMAO dawg thats your parents savings LOL

[lavish quest]

Dab lives off of daddy money confirmed? 😉

[fallen estuary]

im my own daddy lmao

i just booked 72 hours this week and expecting 1300-1400 payday this friday as i relax with my 10 PTO to grind this shit

my car insurance just got reduced by 120$ and i pay only 600 a year now for full tort and my credit score just went up by 3 points for doing absolutely nothing with my cards capped full of cash. i can rest easy knowing i can still play warrior in arena even with a soul crushing job

i know youre in here loser. back to work

[lavish quest]

I'm gonna need that family tree explained

[fallen estuary]

so in the beginning i fucked myself and became my own daddy

[lavish quest]

Prot player. Checks out

[fallen estuary]

[lavish quest]

All my shit just goes up in price tho 😭

I can still save like $1000 a month after living expenses thankfully

Well invest so I can see big red numbers anyways

[fallen estuary]

you dont even need to invest to be successful. hell just put 10% of what you make into a savings account and wait 5 years and boom

[mental knoll]

Fuck man im done with arena for awhile. 1900 rating and im queuing into some glad players. Capped rating is the cringiest shit I've ever heard of

[fallen estuary]

FFS MODS

can you PLEASE fucking remove clyde

investing in stocks n shit is reta when the bank can literally dupe money for you easy\

boom theres my message i wanted to send

but naw cant say the big boy words in a discord for a game that people in their 40s play

[rotund trellis]

rating doesn't matter, I was working on an alt yesterday and met several rank 1 peeps at 500. It's been like this since the beginning of the expanson

[lavish quest]

Money markets is decent atm, but stocks still fine, here for the long haul

[fallen estuary]

yea im not saying its bad to invest in stocks but you can literally play the long game and dump money in a savings account and dupe your money passively. its REALLY good btw. you CAN do both but diverting the cash to both if you plan on min maxing it is kinda brutal if you are constantly buying stock w/o selling while dumping into savings

my stocks i buy are physical silver and put them in fancy displays

[mental knoll]

Sucks was hoping to push 2100 rating but don't that's realistic at all right now

[fallen estuary]

This is the current display im working on

Best damn thing to invest in

america the beautiful quarters proof 80% silvers

Display comes with a little key for bottom drawer

[lavish quest]

Double it faster invested. 🙂
My only physical investment is my condo.
Cool collection ya got started tho

Maybe clean a bit

[fallen estuary]

Started?

[lavish quest]

Well it's not full yet lol

:p

[fallen estuary]

OH lmao

Youre talking about the display

Im a coin collector lmao myb

[lavish quest]

Did you mean your monitor display?

[fallen estuary]

No my whole collection lmao

i love me coins

coins and currency alike

[lavish quest]

Where the bitcoin at?

[fallen estuary]

in some alternate reality where i give a shit about that

[lavish quest]

It's okay, at least we got the jack bottles, Alan wrenches, and what I'm gonna say are lotion and a gun magazine.

[fallen estuary]

oh thats not lotion lmao thats fermenting grape jelly

[lavish quest]

Whatever does it for ya

[teal hedge]

You should invest in snus

[hot solstice]

if u go these every arena just know that I disrespect u

no disarm nor safeguard

true warrior brain

[fallen estuary]

the 2x intervene is legit op asf idk why people dont 100% rock that shit and ye

no disarm into sub rogue makes me cry alot when duo with a arms war

[hot solstice]

like the only usefull thing in bcomander is cdr on fear

5% on roar is nothing

nor 2 sec root

[mild ember]

Fr tho

[magic wing]

No dmg increase ? No bueno

Zug zug

[lavish quest]

I know I'm trash with Safeguard so gotta roll with more damage

[woeful solstice]

yeah if ur teammates arent fucking brainlets and actually stay near you

the amount of times i vene someone in solo shuffle and they just run from me

i stopped caring

[fallen estuary]

yea i never rock vene with a DH

it just shows how fucking stupid they are when they make a warrior look bad when they get behind the pillar first to get ass fucked by their team

[fallen estuary]

i want to let you know over the 3 hours sinc ewe talked

i got half my floor cleaned lmao

[sleek wave]

okay I wait for end of season for faster queue. Cant climb when most of my games are wasted on waiting the queue to pop

[lavish quest]

Glad I was such a good influence. Proud of you son.

[lavish quest]

That's all of your games regardless of point in the season. It's solo queue. Unless you heal I guess

[sleek wave]

yeah been thinking of doing fistweaver cause i play with 250 ms

[mild thunder]

fistweaving would be worse with high ms

better off playing hpala or something

[sleek wave]

i thought it functions as a mdps but heals?

[mild thunder]

yea mdps sucks with high ping because you lose globals]

and it just doesnt have amazing ways of sticking on your target like ww

[sleek wave]

so i have just been playing on hard mode?

[mild thunder]

i refuse to play melee specs that dont have at least +3 yard range

makes the game feel wayyy better

[mild thunder]

if you play warrior, yea :/ ... probably one of the worst specs with that ms

warrior and ww

[sleek wave]

time to move to america then lol joke hahaha. yeah i feel the delay on the pummel if the caster fakes on the last sec

[mild thunder]

i'd personally move to canada

but yea there were tons of times i missed a charge or didnt intervene a kidney or didnt bladestorm a stun or something because of the slight delay

assuming you're oce?

[sleek wave]

SEA yeah

[mild thunder]

yeaaa, it is what it is

[lavish quest]

Ouch, still questionable.

[mild thunder]

ive got nothing against canada

it's america-but-better

[atomic orchid]

[mild thunder]

poutine kinda overrated tho

[atomic orchid]

On god

[mild thunder]

junkyard fries are also revolting

and americans need to learn about sauces other than ranch

🤢

[fallen solar]

Hey hey hey. I fucks with BBQ sauce

[lavish quest]

Not so sure lol

[rotund trellis]

gtfo Hot Buffalo Sauce is the best

[mild thunder]

that's ok, i am

[lavish quest]

From the expertise you've accrued from losing to emus.

[mild thunder]

yes, exactly

[lavish quest]

Probably less birbs in Canada. Less of a menace for you

[mild thunder]

less americans too

[lavish quest]

That is a great benefit

I achieve that by just not going outside

[teal hedge]

Canada is basically like western sweden but a little worse

[mild thunder]

canada is just america-lite, but it seems more chill

literally just america's new zealand

shit, id almost say nz > aus tbh

[bright stream]

nz>=qld/wa, nz>>nsw

but the rest? naw

the kiwi dream is to move to australia and drive a forklift

lol

[mild thunder]

nah nz is just better overall

except maybe tas

quiet, chill, rainy

although adern is gone, so rip nz

[bright stream]

wasn't she a soft righty?

[mild thunder]

maybe if you're a twitter socialist that thinks anyone to the right of bernie is a nazi

(please dont be this person)

[bright stream]

I'd have to read up to see where their labour party currently sits

I thought she was from a more obviously conservative party

[mild thunder]

i mean, do you think the australian labour party is conservative?

[cosmic vapor]

[bright stream]

they're center and shift depending on the party makeup/election

and policy

I'd say they lean slightly right though yes

[mild thunder]

ok yea

never mind

[bright stream]

RIP based Shorten

4 years later people realise that the man was 100% correct on housing policy,

australia too stupid to vote in their own best interests and just do what the age/herald sun tell them to do

[fallen estuary]

seals say otherwise

[teal hedge]

Seals

like the animal?

Or do you mean the military

[sage raptor]

What are pets but very annoying dots

[teal hedge]

Demon tyrant. .. . ..

Not much of a dot

[fallen solar]

Even after 2 nerfs DH is still OP. Really annoying fighting against them

You just die

[teal hedge]

Okay

[fallen solar]

Last season. DH was balanced imo

Still did good damage. U just didn’t flop over instantly

[wheat jay]

Dh was dogshit last season tho xD

And dh is not even that popular anymore, it fell off hard

Still S tier, but not the best spec anymore

[bright stream]

its high A tier

S tier is the best spec and the specs that compete with it

so basically just sub rn

[wheat jay]

Makes sense

Either way, it fell off hard after the nerfs

[mild thunder]

dh is still S tier lol

but it's not as good as uhdk now imo

[fallen solar]

I guess it’s still popular in different brackets

Cause they in every lobby!

[fallen solar]

UH best “melee” hands down

Well sub

But honestly. I never see them

It’s weird

[violet fossil]

dh is still much more popular

[fallen solar]

That’s what im saying

Every time a DH on my team we win lol

I deleted my DH once I got 1800

I couldn’t stand it anymore cause it was too cheesy

[mild thunder]

what no one talks about when it comes to how "strong" specs are is the ratio of strength:accessibility... sub might be overall stronger than xyz specs, but the accessibility to being that much better is more restricted than dh or uhdk

so is it technically better? yes
are most subs you see going to be as strong as most dh you see? probably not

[fallen solar]

https://tenor.com/view/breakingbad-science-yeah-science-gif-5954775

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/aaronpaul-aaron-paul-cry-crying-gif-7621646

[violet fossil]

sub balanc

[bright stream]

skill expression (the curve from skill floor to skill ceiling) vs impact

subs not that difficult to have very high impact with

sure when its damage is mediocre in some seasons it does, but RN not at all

[mild thunder]

it has a much less accessible skill-ceiling than most specs, especially specs like dh, arms, uhdk (three of the easiest specs in the game kekw)

[tribal wedge]

not sure about that

[bright stream]

eh trolling/derranged take

dh, arms, and unholy are on at least 2 different levels there

probably 3

[mild thunder]

deranged take to say arms, dk and dh are all easy?

say cap rn

[bright stream]

yeah its derranged

[tribal wedge]

you barely can play war/uh/dh in auto brain dead mod

you can't do this as sub

[bright stream]

also hard disagree on sub having a high skill ceiling compared to every spec

its towards the top, but there are other specs there or above it depending on the season

[tribal wedge]

hmm, bro when you see guys like whaaz play, it's not the same game

[mild thunder]

sub has, and has always had one of the highest skill-ceilings in wow

all rogue specs do

feral does depending on the way it's being played

survival kiiinda does

arcane mage does

usually

[bright stream]

see I genuinely feel like unholy>survival in terms of skill ceiling

[mild thunder]

[bright stream]

since the remake, every single season

[mild thunder]

say sike rn

@wheat jay

[bright stream]

and I like playing survival, its a great spec

[mild thunder]

uhdk is so easy i physically cant stomach playing it

it's amazingly dull

[bright stream]

sounds like you just dont know how to play it

and have never taken it outside of a random bg

[tribal wedge]

broooooo

[mild thunder]

uhdk is not hard to learn... all of its cc is instant and unavoidable, it has several ways to avoid/negate cc, most of its burst is on-demand and your pet management is significantly less important than hunter

none of those apply to sv, and i dont even think sv has as high a skill-ceiling or floor as a lot of other specs

[bright stream]

yeah you don't know what you're talking about at all

those two specs are very similar in a lot of ways, the CC/positioning/all of it

[mild thunder]

i guess you can death/fade blinding sleet

that's about it lol

[mild thunder]

uhdk gets played like a meleeweave ranged spec? i dont think so. uhdk's just w key zug

[bright stream]

constantly, its extremely important against ret/arms

[mild thunder]

uhdks are not pillar-sniping lmao

[bright stream]

sure, but there's things that are complex/difficult that survival doesnt do either

like having one of the most interesting positioning tools in the game

[mild thunder]

yea obviously there are things that uhdk will be required to do that sv isnt

[mild thunder]

?

grip?

[bright stream]

deathgrip when used for more than just 'charge' replacement

[mild thunder]

is that really that high of a skill-expression ability? grip out of LoS hurrdurr

[bright stream]

pillar spinning people with deathgrip is fucking chefs kiss

[mild thunder]

also sv actually does have repositional abilities

[bright stream]

to be very clear, I'm not the one pissing on a spec/saying its easy

I think sv/unholy very similar, with unholy slightly edging it out

[mild thunder]

yes, i do think uhdk has a noticeably lower skill-floor and ceiling than sv

i dont think they're very similar in playstyle or role, and i think survival's toolkit is generally harder to execute because it's a mix of skillshots (traps) and soft-cc that's easier to counterplay than hard cc like strang or asphyx

[bright stream]

also the pet positioning is more important/more difficult with unholy because of pet leap

lol

[mild thunder]

also not true... uhdk has no pet externals

unless im tripping

so you dont even have to position your pet for stuff like MC/RoS

[bright stream]

the pet leap can be deadzoned

and has a windup

so actually landing the interupt is a massive hassle

[violet fossil]

procs precog too

[bright stream]

yep

straight up, harder to use than any pet ability hunter has

[mild thunder]

doesnt sound that hard to use ngl, but yea that might be as much of a hassle as RoS

or MC

or misdirection

[bright stream]

if you're try harding as the cd comes up you use 'move to'

actually binding move to 🤮

[mild thunder]

so? welcome to hunter

[bright stream]

I've never seen a reason to use move to on a hunter tbh

you want the pet either on you, or on a target

in my experience

[mild thunder]

you manually control your pet for interlope targets

you have to manually control your pet for MC positioning

i split pet targeting to keep healers/rogues in combat sometimes

[wheat jay]

?

[mild thunder]

nvm

[wheat jay]

That's shuffle, last 24h

[mild thunder]

shuffle 🤢

[wheat jay]

And it was most popular there

[bright stream]

wed->friday probably better

this is alts day

[wheat jay]

For the sake of argument

[wheat jay]

I don't have premium there to check 72h

Can only see last 24

[bright stream]

oh me either, I was just thinkulating

which is a real world fo sure

[fallen solar]

Well I’m glad to see shaman. Prob a lot of resto shamans because I think they are slightly better imo

Well I heal better on it than resto Druid

So I’m bias

[mild thunder]

it's probably all ele

[lavish quest]

So they realized their fotm reroller ways

[mild thunder]

lava burst go brr

[fallen solar]

Ele so great

I got the 4 set

It’s wild

[lavish quest]

But more realistically, fotm rerollers, reroll again quickly, shocked

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-pikachu-pokemon-shock-surprised-pikachu-gif-15357817

[mild thunder]

😮

[wheat jay]

It was obvious ppl rolled fotm

[lavish quest]

What did you reroll to @wheat jay

[mild thunder]

can we just go back to jungle/kfc meta amirite @wheat jay

[wheat jay]

Im dh

I havent rolled off of it

[bright stream]

I cant even bring myself to play it

[wheat jay]

I pick a spec/class for a season and stick to it

[lavish quest]

Duh, you included, it was obvious since we saw 300k DPS

[fallen solar]

I deleted mine

[bright stream]

its the lamest class/spec in game (dh)

[fallen solar]

I felt bad

[wheat jay]

Hehehe

[mild thunder]

dh is infinitely more fun than uhdk ngl

[fallen solar]

For the other players

[bright stream]

man all this unholy hate 😦

[mild thunder]

uhdk is just an outdated combo point spec

zzzzzzzzz

[wheat jay]

I was survi main, so it was a nice change of scenery

[fallen solar]

I was a hunter main also

[bright stream]

whoever was designing/head designer lost the understanding of the rune engine when they dropped deathrunes but its still mostly there

[fallen solar]

But I’m ele now

Mainly

[mild thunder]

i played some surv over the weekend... it felt mega ass no cap. cant move, no borst, and just perma dead into melee cleaves

[wheat jay]

I played today

Won games

[violet fossil]

it’s the wound gameplay

[wheat jay]

But its ass

[mild thunder]

i was talking about festering wounds

they're just old combo points

[wheat jay]

I was doing like 45k dps into lock/boomy

[violet fossil]

bfa gutted the shit out of uh

[bright stream]

oh nah festering wounds are awesome

[wheat jay]

Cant get close cuz i die

[mild thunder]

explosive still only critting for 80k wowowowowowowowow

[mild thunder]

so true bestie

[lavish quest]

Survival doesn't have to, it's a ranged spec, you good

[wheat jay]

Not rly

[mild thunder]

eh

[bright stream]

festering wounds remind me more of the original frostbomb rather than combo points

[wheat jay]

You do most dmg in melee

[mild thunder]

you lose a lot of damage playing perma-range

[lavish quest]

Accidentally replied to wrong one but you know

[mild thunder]

and your burst takes you into melee

[wheat jay]

Your big hitters and cooldowns put you in melee

[mild thunder]

(remove coordinated assault charge pls)

[wheat jay]

Fote is now must have and its melee

[lavish quest]

So you there for a global then back to 40 yds, damn, must be rough

[mild thunder]

if you had the mobility to do that, but it's a wheelchair spec now ngl

[violet fossil]

only cause they do damage now

[wheat jay]

Not rly

Bombs do fuckall

Killshot is 80k

[violet fossil]

which is cool

[mild thunder]

make killshot oneshot

[wheat jay]

Mongoose bite is your main consistent dmg

[bright stream]

they were alright before that too, I did also like the old necrotic plague as well

[lavish quest]

Make execute one shot, thanks

[wheat jay]

So you're a melee spec that cant live in melee

[lavish quest]

Remove executes from non warrior classes

[wheat jay]

And from range you do 20k dps

[mild thunder]

difference is execute is a random proc that buffs other abilities and procs from 35%

and has no CD

(remove killshot cooldown)

[violet fossil]

yeah plague was awesome

[lavish quest]

So we want to one shot quick and often? I see no problem here

[wheat jay]

Execute is atm the least execute-like ability in wow lmao

[lavish quest]

[wheat jay]

Its just core rotation

[mild thunder]

even IF execute did good damage

it feels like ass

because condoom animation is piss

[lavish quest]

Yeah... it's much

[mild thunder]

that shit needs to be a glyph

[wheat jay]

Like, exe should be making people be afraid to drop below 20%

[lavish quest]

I mean... at least it looks cool amirite? lol

[wheat jay]

Meanwhile rogues and monks have true executes xD

[mild thunder]

yea but in order to do that they would need to mega-nerf execute proc effects

like massacre and SD

[lavish quest]

Ye I h8 this game sometimes, many times, most of the time

[mild thunder]

the reason killshot hits so hard is because it's 20% only, has a 10s CD and its only proc is CA on a 2min CD

[wheat jay]

Hits hard, 80k on a druid

Full gear itd be like 100-120

[mild thunder]

tbf ive still had 175k killshots

[wheat jay]

Which is like 10%

[mild thunder]

it's just uber inconsistent

[wheat jay]

Non-crits i

[mild thunder]

yea non-crits highest ive seen is like 120k on mage

[wheat jay]

Survi execute is fote into killshot xD

[mild thunder]

i'll probs keep playing sv this season

it's just such a chad spec

[lavish quest]

Nah

[mild thunder]

i do kinda wanna pick up rogue tho... was watching whaaz play outlaw and it looks so damn fun

and ive played it... and it is fun

[wheat jay]

Imma play dh

Its fun

That's all I want from a spec xD

[mild thunder]

im loving feral, literally the only downside is my irl friend being a feral one-trick

so we cant do high keys and shit together

and he's a much better feral so i cant muscle him out of the spec

[lavish quest]

Assert dominance anyways

[rotund trellis]

I need to cap vault on my resto druid if anyone wants to get some quck arenas in

[teal hedge]

Fellas, does intervene soak spells?

Healer keeps eating shit even after I intervene

[bright stream]

nope you can take a talent to add 20% reduction tho

[teal hedge]

Wait really?

Says all ranged and melee attacks

But might only be physical damage tehn

*then

[fallen estuary]

finally got one on clasic

[teal hedge]

I got a character with the name Saulgoodman on classic

[mild thunder]

@wheat jay buff intim when

[karmic verge]

anyone know when solo shuffle rating gets inflated?

[mild thunder]

yea just google "vulpera inflation" and you'll find some stuff

[karmic verge]

uh huh

[mild thunder]

@sharp meteor is an expert

[sharp meteor]

Vulpera are not to be inflated, sir.

[teal hedge]

Why did you say this

[mild thunder]

im just tryna be helpful

[teal hedge]

:(

Hidden warrior tech: take meth

[sharp meteor]

Last season they started it at week...five?

But it's only like 20 per week + a free 80 first week

aka afk for 4 months for easy pushing

[mild thunder]

they need to just artificially pump tf out of this season

we’re in a recession and we need welfare rating to get people engaging with arena again

[pseudo jungle]

what are that stat weights for arms. i am so confused on the leader boards

[simple rock]

haste to ~20-25% (depending on preference) then all mastery

that's before pvp scaling

[pseudo jungle]

fml im way off

thanks

[simple rock]

i'm like 485pvp ilvl so almost max

been playing since the start of the ssn

[pseudo jungle]

im 486

went like almsot all haste

been wondering why it feels underwhelming

[simple rock]

all haste is good until you fight something where you don't have a ton of uptime

vs melee cleave full haste feels insane

[pseudo jungle]

yeah double melee is easy

noticed t hat

11/28/22/41 is what im at

after scale

[simple rock]

probably drop vers enchants and gems

go deeper into mastery

I have 35% vers and it feels good

[gaunt notch]

3-4 more wins till mount

[pseudo jungle]

i have no vers enchants lol

[simple rock]

oh I guess I have tier helm and chest

no vers

4p

[knotty spoke]

is arms warrior is tanky a meme that im not understanding why are people scared to focus warriors

[simple rock]

they're quite tanky tbh

[fickle forge]

Cause it's immortal vs anything that's not a caster cleave

[simple rock]

would say there's no melee that's tankier than arms except sub maybe

[fickle forge]

And it makes others immortal as well

[simple rock]

safeguard is op

until they kite my vene

[fickle forge]

Arms def have the most peels in the game

Stronger than ret

[mild thunder]

because it's the tankiest spec in pvp

except into caster cleaves

[teal hedge]

With a competent healer you can eat entire bursts with only using one cd

[mild thunder]

people that think arms is squishy are just the kinda warriors that leap behind pillar and die in a stun w/o popping CDs

and then type "nice heals"

@teal hedge knows

[teal hedge]

Too well

[trail plover]

Does the legendary still function in pvp?

[pliant hare]

was curious myself on what pvp modifers the proc/onuse have

And if the ilvl gain makes it simply better than a epic pvp weapon

[mild thunder]

yes

[rotund trellis]

What you guys think of the latest venruki video?

[mild thunder]

what video

[rotund trellis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8jceGiy-FM

[mild thunder]

eh, i avoid watching those kinda videos

(yes, i have added nothing to this conversation)

[rotund trellis]

usually me too. I automatically ignore fitness channels with titles like "THIS IS WHY YOU'RE DOING YOUR DEADLIFT WRONG"

or "STOP DOING THIS THIS AND THAT"

[mild thunder]

eh, for me it's moreso not wanting other peoples' enjoyment of xyz to affect my enjoyment of xyz... i have my opinion on the state of the game (not amazing), but i still enjoy enough to stay subbed

it's very easy to get sucked into the whirlpool of negativity with wow and pretty much all other games/media

[rotund trellis]

true, although I think that that video has some good points, like there has to be a way to incentivize participation from new players

[mild thunder]

im sure there are probably some decent points. i like ven more than supa or others, just something i try to avoid

[rotund trellis]

for sure. and he clearly states that the actual gameplay, balance and gearing is the best right niw

and i agree, the game is super fun.

[mild thunder]

endgame reward system as a whole needs a revamp, not just pvp... m+ needs an elite set and better mount reward, pvp needs better rewards for each rating bracket and better inflation in seasons, and probably some other stuff on top

[rotund trellis]

but lacks entry points for new players. I remember my first season, it was pretty rough, and I pushed through just because I kept pushing out of stubborness

and now I absolutely love pvp

[mild thunder]

this is really the unfortunate irony of dragonflight - some of the best actual gameplay in wow's history, but the atmosphere of the game has really been at an all-time low and shuffle has seriously hurt pvp

as far as im aware m+ retention has been pretty standard and i think this season is actually slightly above average

[rotund trellis]

I agree 100%

yeah he shows the data. PVp vs Mythic

[mild thunder]

shuffle has really just been the greatest bait in the history of gaming

[rotund trellis]

it's like 1000% higher

some of the top players are comparing this deflation to a scenario where you can't complete any key higher than +8 for the first 8 weeks

I mean I speak from personal experience, I am pretty bad to low average in pvp, and to get my 1800 this season i literally played Pikaboo, Mes, etc.

I had fun, but I don't think it's omething I'd like, again, as a very average player

[mild thunder]

i was legitimately hardstuck ~1600 in the first two weeks on survival

2500xp last season in 3s, and we just couldnt break past 1600

felt horrible

[rotund trellis]

yeah it's a bad feeling, although the game is in an excellent state from a mechanics, balancing and overall accessibility standpoint

[mild thunder]

yea, gameplay is in a pretty good state... there's always some QoL improvements they could make for pvp (making stuff like omnibar, diminish baseline, in-game DR tracker etc.) but realistically i doubt it'll ever happen

unfortunately i just dont think shadowlands-level arena seasons will ever happen again with shuffle being introduced

blitz will take even more players once 11.0 drops

one of these has to go

wow pvp doesnt have the playerbase to support 5 ranked and 3 unranked gamemodes

[rotund trellis]

I agree, and that's why the ladder mmr needs to be revamped drastically, including rewards

if we get no new noobs, it's not good for the longevity of the game mode

[mild thunder]

if i were to give a wacky solution, i think rbgs should just be replaced by blitz and shuffle + 2s should be combined for a soloQ 2v2 gamemode where healer + dps is only matched against healer + dps and 2x dps against 2x dps

would it be perfect? no
but it would have far better queue times and 2v2 would be a better introductory gamemode for casuals than 3v3

[rotund trellis]

I mean it's not a bad idea,although I think ranked Solo 2s are much more difficult to balance

[mild thunder]

yea i dont think they should really go out of their way to try and balance it tbh

let it be what it is and focus the majority of balancing around 3s

if people dont wanna play double dps they can opt in to a "healer-only" option, it'll just mean they sit longer queues

@sharp meteor whaddya think? hire me or what

[gaunt notch]

i wonder if you'll beable to unlock the old grand marshal gear from the new rated solo q battle grounds once they come out

[rotund trellis]

what rank is grand marshal?

[gaunt notch]

back in the day it was rank 14, but getting 1800 rating in RBGs will give you access to the repllica armor for transmog

(or if you had at least rank 10 from back in the day you unlocked it)

[brazen pewter]

That’s completely fine but probably solo 2s would be a less formal rank pvp mode, probably like old days the 2s without glad mount

The game is probably far away from balancing in 2s especially without healer

[gaunt notch]

i just won full 6 rounds and still only got 2% credit for the mount

[brazen pewter]

Rogue/Mage will be very good in 2s without healer

Some other specs will be fairly bad without healer

But it surely is a possible approach

[mild thunder]

2s is already a "less formal ranked pvp mode"

it's just a meme bracket for rdruids and feral druids

no one takes it seriously

[brazen pewter]

Yeah but still plenty of people will get crazy about it

Tbh I like skirmish plays a lot

Some classes have adv so what

It’s more close to world map encounter

It’s actually less realistic to always have a healer accompany with you

[urban skiff]

No patch notes today for retail, but patch notes for SoD. Guess we're locked into current balance until 10.2.5

[gaunt notch]

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-eyes-gif-22773102

[mild thunder]

there's just so much tuning coming that it has to be announced late

[unique fox]

they gotta wait for everyone to have 4 piece

[fallen estuary]

Oh mah gawd

Romero launched a doom 30 anni mega wad

Bros its play time

Missed out on ordering sigil so ill guess this will do

[bright stream]

wild

[magic wing]

Tf

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[magic wing]

He deleted the 0

[hot solstice]

Tsg vs demo/mage/x who should win in most cases?

[wheat jay]

id say tsg

[serene kestrel]

what are u guys doing to set up a kill as arms in solo shuffle?

im really struggling finding resources for arenas to build on mechanics. Lots of build info, not really sure where to look for anything else.

[lavish quest]

Big damage often, big damage always

But depending on build your likely burst is Csmash, droar, avatar

[rotund trellis]

roar after avatar

[lavish quest]

Can't if you have blademasters which you run a lot of the time

Unless you waiting for after the bladestorm. But it's just better to before

[rotund trellis]

why

[lavish quest]

Spikes damage more

And the dot power scales with your avatar once it's activated with how dots work now. So really just missing out on the 15% on the initial droar hit

For the benefit of putting more damage in a smaller window and being able to get things going immediately

[rotund trellis]

If you roar before avatar you lose 30% of it's damage, both initial and dot

[lavish quest]

Does roar snapshot and I didn't know about it?

[rotund trellis]

actually, 50% including avatar

[lavish quest]

Avatar nerfed in pvp to like 15% I think

[rotund trellis]

roar damage is affected by strength and attack power. Hurricane increases strength by 30% over a 6 second BS cast.

[lavish quest]

That is also nerfed in pvp to 15%

[rotund trellis]

well it's 30% between avatar bonus and hurricane bonus then

[lavish quest]

And if you really want that, you can use your normal bladestorm before you burst

[rotund trellis]

where do you read this? Wowhead states that it has a 1 multiplier still

[lavish quest]

Patch notes over time

When in doubt, assume warrior shit is nerfed by at least 50% because most of the time you'll be right

Most of the arms talent tree is nerfed in pvp by large numbers

@elfin surge Would love to tell you more about it. It's his favorite subject.

[violet fossil]

https://drustvar.com/pvp-spells

[past oyster]

should i buy trinket or ring first conq

[night kraken]

is arms doing better than fury this season for pvp?

[fickle forge]

@mild thunder

[tribal wedge]

y

[sleek wave]

cant believe i got a pve head

i think i should just get the pvp shoulder and use a charge

[urban skiff]

Had a restodruid just run away from me when I was at 30%, straight up run away to the other end of the arena to go stealth and then he somehow ended up mindcontrolled and went off in the chat calling me the R word.

Like what

[rough raven]

Should I have a macro ready to equip a sword/shield, and use shield block if I need an extra defensive in arena?

[violet fossil]

that’s uhhh a PvP head

helm

[sleek wave]

mb should i just get it. why is helm and shoulders crit haste

[rough raven]

I was getting trained a lot in the skirmish weekly, and before I could really do anything, just getting melted and made me think I need something else to pull if I'm getting trained so heavily. But then I'm also thinking it's primarily 2v2 against casters, and a shaman that's going from 0-4million damage in 5-7 seconds.

[eternal hare]

if its ur 4pc probably

[violet fossil]

for ur 4pc for sure

that’s just how the stats are

[sleek wave]

i mean i have crafted helm but i have lfr chest. still have 1.2k(+550 when i cap) conquest and 2 charges for catalyst i think? if we got one. any second opinion. Thinking of getting the shoulder and just buying hands to convert. and just use 1.6k token for chest. and all in into rings/necks for conquest

[violet fossil]

Do you have 2nd PvP weapon?

[sleek wave]

its a wPvP weaon 3 ilvl is fine i guess

[violet fossil]

o

I wouldn’t know what else to get tbh haha

with shoulders and hands you’re at 4pc right?

[sleek wave]

yeah im also confused hahaha

[sleek wave]

yep

[violet fossil]

what’s the stats on chest?

[sleek wave]

its lfr hahaha i still have token tho from reaching 1.6k

[violet fossil]

I would get that with the token then like you said

[sleek wave]

yeah this is gimping me hard hahaha on the stamina department

[violet fossil]

actually what’s the stats on the tier pieces for shoulders and hands?

maybe just replace chest with a converted conquest chest

[lavish quest]

Hands is haste vers, shoulders it another crit garbo

[violet fossil]

damn

[sleek wave]

yeah il just buy chest with token. take shoulder from gv. buy hands and convert it. shoulder and head is garbo man

thanks man

[mild thunder]

photoshopped

there’s no way

legitimately impossible

[drowsy sparrow]

Hey peeps. Losing a lot in arena lately as arms. I always top damage numbers but I feel like I actually do very little in the matches, like I see other warriors with more or less the same gear (Honor PvP + 2-set) and build (Thunderous Roar + Rend) as me get someone from 100-0 in two seconds or less.

I've watched some Bahjeera and Pikaboo videos that I found and I feel like I'm doing the steup correctly:

Sweeping -> Charge -> 2x Overpower -> Colossus Smash -> Sharpen -> Storm bolt target / shockwave if it can hit healer too -> [DPS Trinket + Thunderous Roar + Avatar]

This usually does like 30-40% of someone's HP assuming same iLvl as me.

Any guidance would be very helpful! 🙏

[fickle forge]

Yeah bro you gotta upload a VOD for us to help you there

[rotund trellis]

If you have an Nvidia graphics card, GeForce Experience does screen recording

[mild thunder]

tldr - don’t waste sharpen in a burst sequence and arms doesn’t have “burst setup”. just cross-cc when you’re bursting and don’t apply rend during cs

[drowsy sparrow]

Maybe I misunderstand the point of sharpen, but I assumed you want to apply it for the healing reduction during your burst? When should I use it then? Just whenever a kill target becomes low HP?

I should maybe clarify that I play unhinged so I proc it during bladestorm

[mild thunder]

whenever someone is low, the healer is out of/coming out of cc and you can push for a kill

good rule of thumb to start out is to wait until the target is below 50% for sharpen

[urban skiff]

when did thorns start hitting for 50k?

[boreal stone]

caster cleaves beat melee cleaves most of the time. the average 18 hundo tsg should beat the average 18 hundo Mage lock

[lavish quest]

When you started hitting into it

[drowsy sparrow]

Thanks for the tip 🙂 Also what is the general wisdom around bladestorm, is it often used as a burst CD or would one generally want to hold it to dodge CC or get out of roots/similar ccs at crucial moments etc.?

[urban skiff]

beating ugly mirror always feels good

[boreal stone]

we are gaming

[urban skiff]

tomorrow we get another catalyst?

[sleek wave]

we already have unless u eu? not sure

[urban skiff]

I think that's pretty clear from the context

[sleek wave]

im kinda new but yeah i already have another catalyst so yeah

[urban skiff]

man this season is rough on me

[sharp meteor]

It just started, is deflated and you've barely played.

[urban skiff]

another mirror

fury > arms

[urban skiff]

thank you for believing in me! New season record

[mild thunder]

warrior/priest is so ass

[urban skiff]

everyone playing sweaty comps

assa+rdru now

half my games has been disc/arms

[mild thunder]

wrong channel

[night kraken]

oh shit my b

[violet fossil]

eu more like pu

[boreal stone]

we have GOT to stop spamming the channel with scoreboards

[urban skiff]

was going ham into the rdru without realizing he had cycloned himself

accidentally merc'd the rogue behind me

[urban skiff]

you're free to make your own channel

[boreal stone]

https://tenor.com/view/pon-gif-15097379091171620462

[urban skiff]

If you want carefully curated content i hear there's a subreddit called r/worldofpvp

very good content

[boreal stone]

that subreddit is for career 16 hundo warlocks that complain about every class

[urban skiff]

They also want to control content. You don't want to be like those angery warlocks right?

so free the content!

[urban skiff]

much love, friend

[lavish quest]

What's the problem with scoreboards? Who cares

[urban skiff]

Ban any scoreboard that starts with 1

is UH MW any good?

feel like I see a rise in that comp

yay

Beat my shuffle max

[fickle forge]

When they can play the game then it is yeah

[boreal stone]

its the endless spam of them after every 1600 2v2 game

[urban skiff]

I'll have you know I spam them before 1600 as well

[rotund trellis]

bring on the scoreboards, I have 3 more hours at work and I'm bored as f

[urban skiff]

i'd happily stream my messy games but healer finally gave up

[fickle forge]

Damn gais I just won this sick game, sure was a close one haha eksdee

[urban skiff]

Gratz man

You're heading for the stars

[wheat jay]

carried by healer

clearly

look at healing done lmao

[urban skiff]

The higher healing done, the more damage you can do

it's fact

[fickle forge]

2s DH is so skilled bro

[wheat jay]

🙏

[mild thunder]

artji tryna deflect from dh again

shocker

[wheat jay]

nah im just insulting kargish

[fickle forge]

Honestly he would have won if they maybe casted 10 more instant CCs on me

[wheat jay]

[fickle forge]

Maybe if his RNG wasn't trash, he'd have lived with Blur and Darkness as well

[mild thunder]

look at how bad kargs damage is, then remember survival does even less

[wheat jay]

real

[mild thunder]

[wheat jay]

survi dog tier

[mild thunder]

can’t even do damage if people have the iq to stand on top of trapped healer

hahahahahahahaha i can’t press half my kit hahahahahahaha

[wheat jay]

cant bomb

cant chakram

can mongoose, kc, and serpent sting

[mild thunder]

can’t explosive

[urban skiff]

feral when

[wheat jay]

you can at the end tho

or even if it breaks, its worth it

cant fote either

diamond ice should be baseline lmao

can't use 80% of my kit without it

[fickle forge]

Just default to diamond ice

[wheat jay]

you lose other shit tho

[mild thunder]

ew

[wheat jay]

😦

trap just feels bad

felt good when survi was more ST

now everything is some cleave/frontal

[fickle forge]

Oh no, must be worth more than being able to use your abilities

You get the added benefit of being able to make swaps as well

[wheat jay]

so, tranq darts, disarm, chimera, mending

pick your poison

survival instincts has to stay

[fickle forge]

You don't need mending into anything but assassa or feral

[wheat jay]

yes

[fickle forge]

Maybe arms if it clears TR, Idk if it does

[wheat jay]

and assa is meta

[fickle forge]

And then what, you pick mending + tranq/chimera as your 2nd and 3rd

[fallen solar]

@mild thunder do you have 4 set for surv?

[wheat jay]

no

[fallen solar]

Because it pumps

My god

[urban skiff]

wait, again?

[wheat jay]

you pick mending, chimera, survi instincts

survival instincts is 100% pick

never swapping off of it

[fickle forge]

Drop chimera for diamond ice

You're welcome

[wheat jay]

into monk it means i can't cc

harder cc into disc

[mild thunder]

nope

it’s okay tho

[wheat jay]

chimera is 90% pickrate basically

[mild thunder]

i don’t think 4pc saves the spec

but it’s a nice boost

[fallen solar]

Yeah the damage is pretty intense

[wheat jay]

@fickle forge WHAT ELSE CAN I DROP!?

because everything else has either equal or more value

so i can't pick diamond ice for pure damage

[mild thunder]

eh

less than most specs

has super cringe positional requirements

[fickle forge]

Just drop Chimera if you complain about being unable to do damage cause of your dog trap?

[mild thunder]

it’s just a channel you cancel immediately

[wheat jay]

chimera is there for cc

[mild thunder]

kinda lame

[wheat jay]

i need my cc to land

to do damage

at all

i can drop it into resto druid

but then its default tranq darts

[mild thunder]

diamond ice is so cringe ngl

such a beta talent

[wheat jay]

it was fine, without fucking explosive shot

that's your main dmg

and when mongoose did damage

[mild thunder]

make explosive a 3-6sec dot

single-target

bring back flayed shot

delete bombs

[wheat jay]

remove explosive, replace with flayed

[mild thunder]

ngl idc what they do

[wheat jay]

keep bombs

[mild thunder]

just do something

[wheat jay]

but make them do more damage

thats instant

not dot

[mild thunder]

make the effects actually matter

[wheat jay]

imma play one or two shuffles now

on survi

for vault

xD

[mild thunder]

gl 🙏

[urban skiff]

do a backflip!

I believe in you, no pressure but don't disappoint me

I expect you to have fun

[wheat jay]

i mean

fam

i always have fun on survi

thing is

all the changes to pvp

were an indirect nerf to survi

[mild thunder]

survival is less fun now that it's a wheelchair spec

[wheat jay]

and once conq is uncapped

ill get my warr to 1800 xD

[urban skiff]

Conq feels uncapped already

[wheat jay]

ye but i cba farming it

ill buy boxes for warr when its up

xD

[urban skiff]

tomorrow I have a vault, almost 2k conq, and a final catalyst for 5th tier piece and all I'm missing is trinkets, jewelry and belt.

[wheat jay]

you dont need 5 tier pieces

[urban skiff]

Yea i know, but i crafted hat so I'm just swapping it back

[wheat jay]

oh ok ok

[urban skiff]

4piece for fury is just half my strategy

open with odyn's fury and get disarmed, then go ham on the warrior after

[mild thunder]

yea im getting shit vaults again

got insignia on rogue zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

idk why some outlaws are even running it over badge

[rotund trellis]

bro another socket for me.

sadge

[urban skiff]

From vault this season I chose mastery weapon, tier piece, and regular conq legs

think that offset the fury tax a bit for me

[wheat jay]

weap on survi this reset

gaming

[mild thunder]

ugh

ughhhh

[wheat jay]

tier tomorrow maybe

[mild thunder]

i also got shit vault on feral

[wheat jay]

lmao

youre too negative

[urban skiff]

I'm going to get the leggo axe probably

[wheat jay]

game feels it

[urban skiff]

just had so much gear luck every time on this toon

[mild thunder]

i aint negative, it's just true

where's my witherbark or weapon from vault on feral

ive run everbloom so many times bruh

[rotund trellis]

My stupid druid Alt got full set from vaults and main hand this week

wtf

[wheat jay]

6-0 or 0-6?

place your bets fuckers

XD

[mild thunder]

0-6

[rotund trellis]

1-2

[urban skiff]

4-2, you're gonna rock bro

[mild thunder]

that's a rough lobby

only way to make it worse would be replace the ret with a uhdk

[urban skiff]

It's not all bad, 2x pseudo ranged vs 2x melee makes for two good chances where they can't cleave

so that's two rounds sorta safe

[wheat jay]

1-0 rn so gala lost already xD

[mild thunder]

fake news

[urban skiff]

Ngl, that was pretty fast

[wheat jay]

2-0