pvp

[teal hedge]

Pussy

Oh my god

Bitch

Hahahaha

They gotta fix

[wheat jay]

Ehhh

Relax

[gaunt notch]

gal.. i just looked at your profile.. wtf

[teal hedge]

What?

[gaunt notch]

" User is suspected to be a part of an online terrorist organization"

[marble bone]

Explains everything

And nothing

[urban skiff]

I'll be forgottten tomorrow.

shaman decided to be afk the first 3 rounds, guess who was partnered with him

[marble bone]

Love those 6-0 healer matches

Everyone doomed to a 3-3

[gaunt notch]

had one earlier, cept the other healer left at the last match when i was going to get my third win

they should really make each round win worth 1% for the mount

[teal hedge]

Wait are you serious?

[gaunt notch]

yes

oh its gone now

[teal hedge]

I can't see it?

Are you just fucking with me?

[gaunt notch]

i am not

it is however no longer saying that

[marble bone]

Ye its gone now

[gaunt notch]

might of been a bug or they didnt like me calling it out

[teal hedge]

I haven't done anything to illocit this response?

[gaunt notch]

might of been a bug that just happened to show up

well that really is karma, got into a match, 6th person never even made it into the match

[scarlet barn]

still there for me

might be just good troll though

[fallen estuary]

To be expected with someone having a nostalgia critic pfp lmao

[teal hedge]

I lost no nostalgia november

[ruby heron]

Is it worth to get fueled by violance instead of fatality

[urban skiff]

shuffle is way easier

[fickle forge]

Matchup dependant

FbV is pretty good rn though

[scarlet flame]

bro stop tricking people

[ruby heron]

@fickle forge is it for just cleavable enemies on 3v3

I am totally unexprienced if It's dumb to ask sorry

[scarlet flame]

its for pet classes

that you get value from warbreaker and BS for putting deep wounds on

[ruby heron]

Got it thank you

[fickle forge]

Fatality works into damp comps, it's a niche talent

[gaunt notch]

this rogue took a demon hunter to the shadow realm at 41% (both my dots were on him).. the DH didnt survive 3 seconds

[rugged creek]

what is fbv?

[gaunt notch]

Fueled by violence, it's the deep wounds 80% heal

[still talon]

Hello, is it normal that war prot has a pvp talent which boost bladestorm while we don’t have access to this ability ?

[woeful solstice]

GOOD MORNING CHAD CLASS ENJOYERS

[urban skiff]

it boosts ravager

[urban skiff]

good morning bud

[sharp meteor]

It applies to ravager, as Zercher says.

I'm not sure if you'd ever really want to take it, though.

[fervent sand]

Hello. I'm in need of help, I don't know how to close fights. Playing as Arms, 1229 rating /:

I am using Clap into Warbreaker into 2 OP into MS

[urban skiff]

What are you comfortable doing right now?

[fervent sand]

Then spam OP, MS and Execute when up

And Sharpen Blade

But the damage doesn't seem to go in

They are always healed to full or a good chunk in that window

[marble bone]

Got to get some CC on the healer, then sharpen when cc goes off so they cant top instantly

[fervent sand]

I got 2pc and Hellbloom wep

How do I force a trinket off healer early?

[marble bone]

By ccing him and bursting kill target

[fervent sand]

So I don't focus the healer

[urban skiff]

i think only fury hits healer?

[marble bone]

well depends I guess

I do enjoy smacking disc priests as arms

But mostly just tunnel down some dps

Swap on def cds

But my go-to is just stormbolting healer, doing opener on kill target (yay if cleave is possible), if no one seems to follow up on the stun I charge/leap over to fear then back to dmg

Dno if its the best, but works

[fervent sand]

Alright

I will try that

Is there any cookie cutter talent build to follow?

IV guide?

[marble bone]

Check out murlok.io for what other warriors (and other classes) do with talents, items etc 🙂

[fervent sand]

Alright, thank you

[abstract barn]

anyone got some macros for arms?

[boreal veldt]

man i went from 1805 to 1622 in rss yesterday, some baaaad luck lobbies

[boreal veldt]

my favorite macro is attaching /cancelaura Bladestorm to execute and every CC i own

[abstract barn]

do you mind sharing the bladestorm cancel aura plz

[boreal veldt]

ok heres an example cause they're all the same
#showtooltip Charge
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast Charge

[marble bone]

Just incase you use that talent and wonder why it doesnt work 🙂 got to play with Unhinged then

Which I so many times wish I did, sucks to not be able to interrupt the healer that would 100% be a kill if I could

[boreal veldt]

What fucking kills me about Hurricane is you can click the hurricane buff off

Mid bladestorm

SO why cant we just cxl it?!?

[fervent sand]

Tbh I can't find a way to leverage it's damage since you already spent your stuns when opening someone

How to play Hurricane

?

[boreal veldt]

Hurricane into BM/Unholy DK, unhinged or nothing into others is a good place to start.

Demo too i guess*

[fervent sand]

Hmm, alright.

[boreal veldt]

But i just dropped 200 rating in 3 hours so take my advice with a grain of salt

[fervent sand]

I'm a low rating player

Anything that can help me learn this is welcome

[limber relic]

Unhinged is just meh

60k crit at most with all cds up+cs

[boreal veldt]

Meh is a good way to describe it but it's a choice if not going hurricane, they're just cute little extra ticks of bs

boop boop

[fervent sand]

I pulled off there and put on Fatality

[marble bone]

Hurricane is pretty damn nice though, tons of dmg

And its nice to get movespeed

Unhinged is cool vs melee cleave, press sweeping first and cleave the unhinged procs

[still talon]

Hello, does immobilization has diminishing return like cc or it is notnlimited ?

[sharp meteor]

Roots? Yeah, those DR normally.

[still talon]

Ok ok thank you

[spice hornet]

The best 10.2 change was the fixing of the two hunter root not during

Dring^

[sharp meteor]

Thinking about when clap root didn't dr. 😭

[spice hornet]

That was fun

[pure hornet]

In 2’s should i target healer??

[sharp meteor]

Usually not the primary target but there are often situations where you'll want to consider tapping them, yeah.

Rdruid no hots and walking up to clone you or healer? Bonk.

Monk in your face without mobility? Bonk. Cocooned his partner? Bonkbonk.

Just depends on matchup/positioning/cds, etc.

[scarlet flame]

if they go your healer, you probably want to go their healer too

[green anchor]

https://i.imgur.com/iHS6ffS.png

Magnusz gaming

[sharp meteor]

Rough.

[atomic orchid]

Yikes

[fallen estuary]

Whomp whomp

[frigid maple]

Not sure if this is a ok place to ask but
Korrak's revenge
Ive gotten the 200 timewarped badges but the mount is no where to be seen
Got the achivement and all
Did i do something wrong

[warm pivot]

are we still stacking full haste? some ppl were saying to start getting some mastery.. or its just preference?

[green anchor]

God I wish I was unemployed

[urban skiff]

I wouldn't cry if they fired me. 3 months paid job search/vacation

[spice hornet]

Must be European

[urban skiff]

yup

But it's also in my contract

[fallen estuary]

Najh is legit a fucking ogre

Have you seen his streams? Legit the hunchback of notre daaammn daniel

[spice hornet]

yeah hes not looking too good lately

just sits on his ass all day doing viewer 2s

[fallen estuary]

Hes legit the future gamer pic incarnate

[spice hornet]

[cyan mauve]

conq sword from the vault W

[marble bone]

"oh human rights, must be europaen!" 😬

[green anchor]

Europeon

[fallen estuary]

Britain

[wheat jay]

Waiting for "at least we have freedom" response from someone

[marble bone]

And dont forget the biggest military, and tons of guns

[wheat jay]

We win on safety tho

No school shooters

[marble bone]

Ye it feels good not having to pack a kevlar with my son when he leaves in the morning

A friend of mine was over in the states visiting the family she stayed with when studying over there back in college, and there was a shooting just down the street, and people acted like it was normal 😬

[pine pine]

As an American I can proudly say this country fucking sucks, it's such a shit hole

[bright stream]

Good thing that gun bans dont work.

Like that gun ban in Australia

[woeful solstice]

what a load of stupid statements

stick to pvp please

[wheat jay]

Pvp is dead

There's only casters

[still talon]

What is a good protection warrior tree+pvp talents for 1v1 ? (i know it depends on who you fight but there can be like two or three talent which change depending on the opponent)

Also is the icy vein guide updated and good ? I didn’t see it changed although it is shown as updated, there’s just no change despite the new tier set and new pvp talent so i don’t know

Thanks in advance to the 2 people who play this spec in pvp

[wispy cedar]

Fartji

[mystic barn]

Fartji

[sharp meteor]

Uh, I can't say I've really tried it in 1v1s outside of scuffles that happen in bgs.

Probably wouldn't change too much from the standard build.

Maybe grab pain and gain.

[still talon]

So standard build is this ? No change since tier set or new talent ?

And for the talent, iirc we take oppressor demo and safeguard usually, but for 1v1 what would we take ?

[sharp meteor]

Uproar a little more appealing since tier but

Also rebound, disarm, clap root, battlefield commander decent options

Oppressor might still be good in 1v1 if you can get a reflect cos that gives it a stack

Also wreck not useful int ostuff without shields, and you want imp heroic throw over the revenge thing

Instigate bad, need bloodborne

Actually hm maybe it's fine 1v1

[still talon]

Would you mind sharing your tree to see what would be the "standard" build ?

And good to know for oppressor, is shield bash still good ?

[sharp meteor]

Shield bash good yeah if you can get resets

also works into any cast even physical but idk if worth into mm etc lmao

[sharp meteor]

Uhh can't rn but it's more or less the same albeit without bounding and then imp heroic throw

[still talon]

We don’t take shockwave then right ? I will take bloodborn and imp heroic throw

Whay do you take in war tree that is not taken in the screen ?

[still talon]

No problem it is for later, but ok i will apply your changes

[sharp meteor]

Take with a grain of salt because I do everything except duel, lmao.

Prot not the most fun to try to 1v1 people on

[bright stream]

team 3rd crafted piece this week right?

[rotund trellis]

I know why I beat pilav and RDZ yesterday night, Pilav was running with 5 stacks of fucking deathwish. he EVAPORATED as soon as I switched to him LOL

[distant cloud]

yo i'm dipping my toes into pvp for the first time really this season. have full honor gear+hellbloom 2h, 4pc tier (half 483, half 463), and full conquest cap to spend on gear. any recommendations on what i should buy up first?

the 3 ilvl difference between hellbloom and conq weap is worth it?

also my hands/legs are 483 already

[barren bear]

i personally prefer tier > weapon

may as well as just use hellbloom/trophy of strife weapon

better off getting 4 set tier

[teal hedge]

Conq-weapon is very high prio as warrior.

[limber relic]

No next week?

[limber relic]

I think haste is garbo

Faster gcd that hits like a wet noodle

Ur rend ticks every 2.3s compared to full on mastery which makes it tick 2.5s

So 0.2s diff in tick but way more dmg with mastery

U wouldve thought going 5k haste would make u proc sudden death often w rend on 6 targets but nope 😂

Basicly have 21% haste with my 4set+crafting helm+boots

[paper mantle]

what should i be crafting first as an arms warrior,i got the conquest weapon btw.

[pure hornet]

Is 4 pcs set for arms strong?

[deft fog]

Does anyone know how this works? The shaman did 1 million damage in 0.5 seconds to the healer and then did another 1.5 million damage to the dps in the same global… one shotting he healer and taking the dps down to sub 20%… is this an exploit or expected behavior?

[fallen estuary]

I know how this works

Im not gonna que till its fixed hahah

[limber relic]

Its traaash

[pure hornet]

Why say that?

Is the thunderclal damage low?

Or bleed?

[limber relic]

Bleed ticks for like 4-5k every second for 5s

Thunderclap is ok. Hits like 20k

[warm pivot]

@limber relic thanx for the info! wanted to make sure before i buy jewels with conq

[deft fog]

😔

[still talon]

I mean, I also want to do other content so having the standard build is fine

[limber relic]

70 mastery 33 haste gems

[finite escarp]

Anyone have any tips vs mage/rogue as Arms? Never sure who to try to hit as the main target. I've tried both mage and rogue, but the game always seems to end the same. Rogue will cloak/vanish and mage poly/kites and they just keep resetting the fight until they beat us on a go.

[limber relic]

Go mage

[pure hornet]

Yeah never let freecast a mage

Or lock

[sage raptor]

When you're too tired to sleep so you drink an energy drink and now you're the right amount of tired to sleep.

[still talon]

For bg what would you change on the tree except imp heroic throw and instigate for bloodborn ?

You mentioned uproar in the class tree but what do we take instead ?

[barren bear]

whats the difference from using conquest to trophy of strife gear to tier set? isnt it like 3 ilvls lower or something but we can just upgrade it?

[finite escarp]

Ty!

[limber relic]

Its just 3 ilvl diff.

Thats all

[limber relic]

Np

[fallen estuary]

Man i just woke up

[gaunt notch]

on the plus side i found an activity to do while waiting in SS queue

farming anima..

50% of the way to the mount, then my main goals for the season are done

[thick reef]

this might seem like a silly question, but if I'm 1v1ing would there be an advantage to having the hearth of azeroth on? I'm thinking because of all the stam buffs

[fallen estuary]

just remember your toolkit for whenever a class is redactedly overpowered

[gaunt notch]

wrath?.. man prot in wrath was killer

[fallen estuary]

It is lmao but getting gear for prots so fuckn horrible

Week 4 of my toon in ICC and 4 full clears all i got was heroic gunship ring lmao

On my welfare badge of frosts 😔

My friends get full bis in week 3 and i cant get shit just for keeping them alive

Leading a guild n shit into cata

Bene server welfare recipients if you wanna join for cata. Gonna nolife the fuck outta that

Get my cata leet sets 🤤

Gurthalak bladestorm tent spam 🤤

[gaunt notch]

fighting death knights who used army.. so many gurth procs from it

[fallen estuary]

yea fuck dks LMAO and any pet spec

the tentacle will kill the pet and terminator nuke them

[lavish quest]

The quality of the embelishment doesn't matter right, just buy the cheapest one?

[gaunt notch]

in terms of damage no, but it can help the crafter get 5 stars on it, bit since its pvp and if you put the pvp item on it, item quality doesnt matter unless you are doing pvp stuff, for the mobs

[warm pivot]

hey.. i am using mes arena WA.. but most of the icons next to the skill name appears as a question mark.. anyone else having the same issue?

[fallen estuary]

so wtf does the verdant conduit do

[gaunt notch]

oh thats simple

https://i.redd.it/new-embellishments-verdant-conduit-dreamtenders-charm-450-v0-1jqe0iwwpj0c1.png?s=1cdc78e6af1844ffd722dd88b12789474db04a19

..that might be w orng let me double check

[lavish quest]

Proc random stats

[gaunt notch]

oh no its the first one i think

[sharp meteor]

I was saying uproar slightly better option with new tier but shockwave probably still best.

Need bloodborn because you're all bleeds in bgs

As for honor talents probs clap shout and demo

BG good into physical stuff if you have somebody who don't always knock it off

[fallen solar]

Any of you plebs playing season of discovery or do y’all not mess with classic?

[magic wing]

I will when the hype goes down a bit

[fallen solar]

I tried it out for a min. I couldn’t do shit lol

Couldn’t get a group to quest

Too many people.

Ngl though. A warlock tank seems dope

[green sequoia]

thats what im making lol

i got like lvl 6 in 45 mins lastnight before i went to bed

[fallen estuary]

Spear + shockwave are going to be the most powerful for bgs

Spear for flag games to snare chasers and DR for flag games

obj games not flag games

[woeful solstice]

GOOD MORNING CHAD CLASS ENJOYERS

[woeful solstice]

ya gnome warrior

[hot solstice]

U can get belt with t3 model in bc dungeon

[still talon]

Okay thank you i will apply it

[sharp meteor]

Prot warr feels pretty scuffo in bgs because you can't sit well, 1v1 well and your team fight ability is basically like a scuffed arms warr At least overall dmg is okayish.

[fallen solar]

Question is. How much of the population went to SOD. Then how many will go to Cata classic. Is retail gonna die??

[fallen estuary]

SOD is redacted and theyll not stay for long

cata and retail are forever options

[lavish quest]

Good to know, I'll look into it

[fallen estuary]

people playing SOD are era players and those who leech ego from streamers so theyre not there for long

[fallen solar]

Possibly

[fallen solar]

By streamers you mean the one and only Asmon

[fallen estuary]

youd be amazed how many people wish to become one person

[fallen solar]

Crazy

[fallen estuary]

but yea theyre there for the first week then go back to doing nothing in the others

[fallen solar]

I mean. I like the idea of classic for nostalgia purposes

[still talon]

I mostly play it because of rp reason (i play a stormwind guard) so if it playable at least it’s ok

[fallen estuary]

SOD is some dumbass gamemode blizzard is trying to make to keep people playing cause they know the game as a whole is a shitshow under their control and is dying rapidly, so theyre doing shitty private server shit that private servers been doing WAY BETTER for years now

Warmane stairs event was the shit

[woeful solstice]

im enjoying it

[fallen estuary]

for now

enjoy it while it lasts and becomes rapidly stale

[fallen solar]

So I started playing retail in season 2. Haven’t played WoW since 2009. How was the launch of dragon flight? Populated?

[woeful solstice]

i didnt play classic

because i played it in 2004

[fallen estuary]

dflight was insanely populated

[woeful solstice]

sod only thing that i actually want to participate in for classic

[fallen estuary]

aka 2 min solo ques

[sharp meteor]

Gotcha.

[woeful solstice]

yeah for like a fucking week

solo que time got bad pretty quick

[sharp meteor]

There could be 10,000,000 people queued and it'd still be bottlenecked by healers.

[marble bone]

Ye solo queue was nice the first week or so, then the half hour queues began

[frosty herald]

the stat distribution for arms looks like quite even between mastery and haste, is that correct?

[fallen estuary]

god this companys so fucking stupid LMFAO

they broke dungeon finder on WOTLK when they launced season of shit

coincidentally on my only fucking day off this week LOL

arena grind time

[lavish quest]

You all need to reroll healer (so I can stay warrior)

[supple crystal]

does anyone know murlok.io is saying to get the haste/crit shoulders and not the vers/haste ones?

[boreal stone]

theyre tier set shoulders

u want tier on shoulders chest gloves and legs

[lavish quest]

Mugambala demo arcane

[fallen estuary]

copying muds mog

[supple crystal]

thanks, but the vers/haste ones are tier as well

oh maybe im confused maybe the vers/haste are conquest and it changes once it gets converted

[boreal stone]

the tstas change when u convert

stats*

[supple crystal]

ahhh got it, thanks!

oh damn some of the top warriors are using hellbloom 4 set

[fallen estuary]

jesus christ

first shuffle in a week and i get ret-dk-sub

and get curbed stomp

holy shit

[weak wedge]

But did you get a "you're trash" whisper ? If not, experience is not complete

[rotund trellis]

I aint no mage but this shit is dope

[fallen estuary]

ill just swap to prot for those

[sharp meteor]

Wpvp bonus not active in instanced.

[marble bone]

Its just more gear, the set bonus doesnt count in zoned pvp 🙂

[spice hornet]

So many demo locks out there

[fickle forge]

Arms not the most played spec anymore

[spice hornet]

Why would it be? Its c tier

[fickle forge]

F tier

[marble bone]

nah, we’re G tier by now😩

Lost 80 rating in two shuffles, dead spec

(I might have played like absolute trash and should have logged off after the first one)

[boreal stone]

how???

u get to play tsg and ret war

its at least a 4-2 lobby

[fallen estuary]

dawg ret didnt use any CDS for me

[boreal stone]

damn

[fallen estuary]

and fuck yall im already 2nd place in prot LB

[boreal stone]

no way

ur playing prot warrior

holy fuck

[thick reef]

How in the world do you deal with a frost mage in solo shuffle

[fallen estuary]

you lie down

[boreal stone]

u dont

[fallen estuary]

and die

or type /camp

easy

[thick reef]

Bro

[boreal stone]

post a vod

[thick reef]

I hate my life

[boreal stone]

and i gotchu

u can kill mages if u play well

[thick reef]

They have like 5 teleports

[boreal stone]

yeah

gotta be patient

[thick reef]

And i'm permaslowed

I can't even get on top of them for more than 3-4 seconds before they dip

[fallen estuary]

he was silent asf when i got him his win

[boreal stone]

need to become used to hamstring being high prio while theyre stunned

bladestorm slow and piercing howl root are both really good

[wispy cedar]

hello do you know fartji?

[fallen estuary]

i just made a hunter RQ a lobby

LOL

he couldnt kill the warlock i was with

and he just /camp

[lavish quest]

Man's flexing his 1600

[fallen estuary]

but youre 0 on prot 😔

[lavish quest]

Yes, yes I am

Actually

I'm almost 2600 on prot

[fallen estuary]

pve

[lavish quest]

Yes, that's where prot belongs

[fallen estuary]

its about to get alot better

as a prot

in this bitch of a melees world

of warcraft

[lavish quest]

Have fun with all the locks

[fallen estuary]

oh i will

[thick reef]

i use hamstring as first global against them

sigh, guess i just gotta get used to it

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/yip-yap-yop-gif-15418233809026651394

[sharp meteor]

Prot keys feeling a little down bad versus Veng/Blood.

[lavish quest]

It is, no one invites me

[fallen estuary]

well que solo then

[lavish quest]

Even tho even at 20 they're piss easy already

[fallen estuary]

pve's dream

https://tenor.com/view/soyjak-walking-wojak-classic-classic-soyjak-gif-27377032

it updated

gore lost a match rlly hard LOl

makes my job alot easier

[lavish quest]

Prot PvP

[sharp meteor]

It's pretty fun into physical.

[sharp meteor]

Did I tell you what happened with Gore

[fallen estuary]

what

[sharp meteor]

He was like 2160 and Kydrav was queuing to 2250 and he asked if he pushed and Kydrav said no so he went to bed

and Kydrav got the last title slot

So he's probably gonna play 3k games this season and have trust issues

[fallen estuary]

LMAO

well im no lifing this shit

and getting it early

so hes gonna have a bigger problem then kydrav

[fickle forge]

This is man's new arc

100p he ain't making it

[fallen estuary]

sorry we dont accept bri-ish kurrenzy here

[lavish quest]

Could be peso

[fallen estuary]

pesos LOL

kargish rlly do be strugglin

[fickle forge]

Average American trynna make a currency joke

[fallen estuary]

average american (me) living the life

imagine going to the gas station and it says 200000 pesos for a gallon of gas

damn must be real out there

prayers for you karg 🙏

[woeful solstice]

LMAOOOO

[urban skiff]

Got 875 conq left, what do I spend it on?

Ring will let me swap more haste into mastery

belt is more stats

[fallen estuary]

a gallon of gas

[urban skiff]

Or I can hold conq and see if vault will bless me with belt/neck/ring/trinket

[boreal stone]

belt or trinkets, ull want to craft rings and neck

[urban skiff]

I assume I can get away with a conq ring for second ring slot until I've made neck+ring, that's 4 weeks of resets alone

[supple crystal]

is there a cap on how much vers/haste/mast you want to have?

[urban skiff]

but idk

[fickle forge]

Gallon

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerd-meme-radar-gif-26497624

[fallen estuary]

oh sorry i forgot to translate it for you

gah-loon

there you go moight

[fickle forge]

My guy out here speaking his made up units

[fickle forge]

Trynna immitate a country I'm not even from

Can't even point it out on the map with his prot fingers

[fallen estuary]

wya then

[fickle forge]

Use a gallon of brain cells and you'll figure it out fam

[fallen estuary]

so you live in silithus

k

got it

@elfin surge you know what to do

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/yip-yap-yop-gif-15418233809026651394

[fallen estuary]

posting dudes you love

cmon

[fickle forge]

I love your yip yap ye

[fallen estuary]

you bought drinks for yip, yap, and ye damn you going all out

[pine pine]

This is a top tier meme

[worthy fern]

@fickle forge @wheat jay come play sod with me, na and eu or layered servers

Are

[wheat jay]

0 chance

i dont have time to play retail regularly

xD

[pure hornet]

Is the new mmo Throne and Liberty, that is launching thursday any good?

[fallen estuary]

no other mmo is as good than wow

other than runescape

[worthy fern]

@wheat jay Fck retail come play classic irregular

[fallen estuary]

expect it to be some chinese mmo

[worthy fern]

Throne and liberty is lineage successor I think

[fallen estuary]

dawg throne looks like a korean cash grab mmo LOL

oh fuck off i got to the point in the video

[worthy fern]

Pretty much guarantee anything made in Asia will have very little interest in the US

[fallen estuary]

unless they pay off streamers to make a huge soyface to it theyll get like 2 months worth of traction and die out like lost ark

remember

giant obnoxious aoe spell effects

clanky mo-cap enemies

detail to enviroment but no npc reaction in enviroment aka classic wow enemy placement

you know 100% its a korean mmo cash grab

oh and i forgot a week after pc launch they launch it on mobile

[worthy fern]

The messed up thing is it’s been in development for like 10 years

And it will still be shit

[fallen estuary]

everything in that video looks like a unity asset rip

and in dev for 10 years

stay the fuck away from it

theyll monetize the fuck outta it

[worthy fern]

Went through like 3 names I think

[fallen estuary]

shit

shit 2

shit 3

mmos never have good names but god i swear the wow wannabes always make the dumbest of names

throne and liberty is such a stupid name for a mmo

or that new chinese mmo that wants to kill wow named "tards-land"

[worthy fern]

There’s another one coming out soon I think

Nvm I can’t find a name

[fallen estuary]

yea the new ones are so forgettable

it also puts pressure on blizzard for wows name and reputation and eventually where its gonna send them if they dont get their shit together

[worthy fern]

Pax deli

Dei

One that had an alpha I think recently

[fallen estuary]

thats the third person medival rust game i heard about

[fallen estuary]

thats the game with open VC in it right?

[worthy fern]

I think so

I haven’t read too much about it just saw Asmon doing the alpha stream

[fallen estuary]

if they do a rust with that MMO thatll actually be a banger

but yknow, private company not connected to steam and open VC will drive investors away so it wont last long

@sharp meteor prots teir is bugged

[sharp meteor]

How so

[fallen estuary]

just tested the TR skullsplitter and it only did 50k

supposidly to do 100% of the damage the dot is over its time

while TR ticks normally for like 20k

[sharp meteor]

Oh maybe I was wondering about that the other day

but haven't looked into it too muc

[fallen estuary]

just tested it

the TR dot was 1 tick and the bite was the shield slam after the tick

also it doesnt reduce Troar by 3 set its 1 sec

also my rends tick for 15k each and it bites for 12k for rend lmfao this game

so its a dps loss to actually have the fucking set LOL

ahahahahaha

even if the UI was bugged and it was 50% its still fucking bugged cause no way a dot that ticks like 10x for 20k raw damage will skullsplit for 50k lol

so arms teir is bugged, prots bugged

so far its looking like a fantastic game ofthe year season

[sharp meteor]

The worse prot is the happier I am

[fallen estuary]

they made a 4 set to make shield slam hit 9k harder

on "chance"

[wheat jay]

Fuck tanks in arena

[fallen estuary]

sorry

the tank fucks you in arena

💪

also are we gonna not notice devs gave warlocks a plate s2 SL set btw

[wheat jay]

Hehe

But better

[sharp meteor]

Every time I'd queue prot I'd hope to see a hunter.

Almost makes the spec feel semi-viable.

[river walrus]

you guys having problems accessing your bnet? i cant log in

[fallen estuary]

Only in a melee stacked lobby 😔

[marble bone]

Probably servers overloaded because of the new classic stuff

[spice hornet]

Don’t talk to my boy fox like dat @wheat jay

[wheat jay]

I will

Good night

[spice hornet]

Goodnight @wheat jay

❤️

[slim saffron]

get buffed or something, idk

[fallen estuary]

Lmao get ready guys

Lets rip some warlocks apart

Purple skidmark

YOO LMAO those lock nerfs and dh nerfs

[wet scarab]

We gained an immunity but it wasn’t in-game

Love to see the dh and lock tears

[fallen estuary]

I can actually push fury now ty blizzard

[teal forge]

what i really wants is to kill mages

they need to nerf these disgusting mage asses

[tender tangle]

I made it to 2k and then hit a wall of all ranged lobbies. How do i stick to frost mages/demo locks/ ele shams?

[scarlet flame]

use your mobility better, ask your healer to dispel you better

[severe skiff]

Never ask your healer for dispels, demand them

remind them that they are playing the bitch role

[spice hornet]

Fury buffs make warriors look bad

Too many zug fury warriors

[tender tangle]

I run up to them when i can and save charges and leaps for when they blink or port, i keep hamstring up. Might be the dispels i’m not feeling, i’ll be more vocal about those. Thx

[sage raptor]

When the zug class has a zug spec

[half rain]

Is fury actually viable in pvp now

[urban skiff]

always was

[verbal leaf]

Hi guys completely new to war arms, i want to pvp only, does icy veins pvp guide is enough for the rotation ? Or should i learn pve rotation too for damage "outside" the burst window ? THanks

[vapid tartan]

Rotation in pve is diff than pvp

Outside burst window maintain slows and bleeds, mortal strike > execute > overpower

when you can’t press any of those slow and bleed, slam maybe if you are running the talents

[marble bone]

Wtf did I press lol

Was just looking at the picture

Thats some cool buffs!

[verbal leaf]

thunderclap/whirlwind is uesless right (2s, solo shuffe) ?

[fallen estuary]

@sharp meteor

new goal

[marble bone]

Almost 600 matches, barely 1.6k rating though, seems like prot is strong 😬

[fallen estuary]

prot was way stronger last season

[magic wing]

Arms get 1600 in 6 matches, prot 600

Serves them right

[vapid tartan]

i would say take tclap anyway bc of 4p, ww doesnt really have too much use

[marble bone]

Good start of the day, 5-1, should have been a 6-0 if the pala just bubbled in time 😩

[dawn niche]

is the new fury going to be haste verse again?

or we sticking to mastery?

[pure hornet]

Ashez of Creation but is still far away

[verbal leaf]

Trophy of strife is limited per week right ? There is no catchup ?

[pure hornet]

You think mastery at 3k is better?

Want to try it

[marble bone]

Haste build feels better imo, but sometimes I wish I had mastery vs kiting, just let the suckers bleed, and once you do connect you smack em real good

[limber relic]

Haste feels bad imo

[grand scaffold]

ide have to agree

just hit 2.1

mastery feeling good

[grand scaffold]

it is limited

BUT

if you are behind

you can buy 1 for 3500 honor

[grand scaffold]

fury and arms stats are practically the same

20% haste and the rest is dumped into mastery

[limber relic]

Thank u

[grand scaffold]

yo bro you still stream on twitch?

[limber relic]

Every day

😎

[grand scaffold]

nice!

hows that going

[fickle forge]

Can do EU

[limber relic]

Going great. Hit 1k followers last week

[grand scaffold]

grats

[limber relic]

Tyty❤️ @grand scaffold

Time to reroll fury

[tribal wedge]

hmm, it's just a 7% up on rampage and exec, but a big 25% buff on crushing blow, but during burst window you don't really want to use crushing blow, but blood bath, so idk if that's thaaaat good

[proud root]

yo guys how hard are your FB BB hits on targets below 35%?

[river walrus]

Biggest problem right now is fury can't stick to targets. Too much roots and cc when we pop cds

[tribal wedge]

roll gnome :p

[pure hornet]

Arms is da king

[gentle roost]

So is fury going to be meta after Tuesday?

[sharp meteor]

Probably not.

although I'm sure there'll be an uptick in people playing it and getting killed for a week or two

after they abandon their havoc dh

[marble bone]

Cant even imagine playing fury atm, stuck in roots all the time as arms, will just be worse as fury

Was it in SL bloodthirst broke roots? My boomer brain cant remember that far back..
That was fun

Just run anything down

[sharp meteor]

You can bloodrage roots off dr

Dmg profile just generally less threatening

Also defensives worse so

[marble bone]

Aah

[cosmic vapor]

this will be me

[sharp meteor]

Nothing quite like trying to play Fury with Arms in every lobby

[cosmic vapor]

[sage raptor]

@sharp meteor send me your pfp

[sharp meteor]

[sage raptor]

Please

You'll love it

I promise

[sharp meteor]

I'm going to regret this.

[sage raptor]

You are not

[latent current]

That was a pvp talent in Bfa and it was too op, honestly

[lavish quest]

You play a vulpera prot in pvp, and sending a pfp is the line? lol

[marble bone]

ah bfa, and yes I think pretty much everyone agreed it had to be removed

[sharp meteor]

I got a free hat.

[lavish quest]

I saw lol

[naive prawn]

So is arms the move this season?

Fury feels a little blah when I did a few solo games

[warm portal]

Fury sucks

[atomic orchid]

Someone say Fury Warrior?

[worthy fern]

@fickle forge think my server is locked atm unfort

Alliance on living flame if you can get in

[magic wing]

Why

I loved it

[marble bone]

Well yes, but it was very obvious too op :p

[warm pivot]

besides War Banner, Fel Obelisk, Psyfiend/Shadowfiend is there anything else like these i should try to immediately kill when its spawned?

[sharp meteor]

Skyfury, capacitor, static field, healing tide, healing streams, grounding if playing with caster

Counterstrike on the off chance you ever see that as well 😁

[warm pivot]

@sharp meteor cheers!

[verbal leaf]

I know its a bit hard to determine if i'm doing something good or bad, but is it a "good" damage distrubtion in a round of solo shuffle ? Or something is missing (I dont have any tier set)

[noble stream]

this is the screwed up part tbh

fury should be the more survivable spec

[spice hornet]

Looks right

[sage raptor]

@knotty atlas here you gooooo

[knotty atlas]

Is it that time already?

[sage raptor]

yeah :)

ive been doing it all day.

thats my 27th actually

[verbal leaf]

Ok and do you stack 2 overpower before mortal strike ? Or you dont aim for that

[knotty atlas]

Fine, i'll succumb to the peer pressure.

Thank you.

[sage raptor]

yayyyy

youre welcome!

[spice hornet]

no

bangout your ms

[sharp meteor]

Nah, just send the ms.

[grand scaffold]

💪

[pure hornet]

Fury sucks big time

[grand scaffold]

facts

[pure hornet]

Since the creation of the universe arms was allways the best. Fury sucks donkey ball

[sharp meteor]

Cosmic and Eternal weren't that long ago.

[grand scaffold]

those 2 seasons were pretty fun

unkitable fury

[violet fossil]

it’s true

[urban skiff]

Start using Avatar to break roots instead of using it before roots. OF will also break roots iirc and you can talent into breaking roots for a third time that also showers you in rage to pump out more rampages during recklessness

[fallen estuary]

Winning

[spice hornet]

1598

[sharp meteor]

Gorecito falling on hard times.

[spice hornet]

LMFAO

[magic wing]

Oh lord

[spice hornet]

least deranged prot player

[magic wing]

This man eats, breathes and shits arena

Mainly shits

[sharp meteor]

I've been itching to queue. No vaultos, though.

[sage raptor]

pvp dedge

[small silo]

wait is comp stomp not this week like it says on calendar ?

[robust hearth]

what is stat prio for arms pvp again?

nvm found it

thx guys

[sharp meteor]

There's a limitation where they can only have 2 "brawls" up, and right now Blitz is always up, along with Korrak's because anniversary, etc.

Comp Stomp was pushed back to the 12th 😁

[robust hearth]

just que into korrak

and farm honor tht way

feels nice when a low lvl ques into it

and u 1 shot them

and stil lget honor

cuz every1 is "scaled" to lvl 30

but ur gear still determines how strong u are in it

[small silo]

thank you

[lavish quest]

Blizzard keeps edging me damnit

😳

[magic wing]

Oh god Im gonna raaaank

[rough raven]

Sorry I’m asking so many questions but I’m just wondering: I got the tier shoulders from the raid, and wondering if I am able to turn them to include the PVP bonus? Or do I have to get them separately for PVP?

[lavish quest]

🤣

[sharp meteor]

Nope.

Although if you have mythic track you can upgrade to 489 which is conq ilev.

If they're hero you're 483 which is 6 ilevs down.

[rough raven]

Alrighty, thank you! They’re only normal sadly

[sharp meteor]

Ew. Not ideal.

[tawdry badge]

what we thinkin

[lavish quest]

The way things should be

[lavish quest]

It's time to call solo shuff a failed experiment

[fallen estuary]

LMAO gores just spamming as many lobbies as possible

Wait till i start queing again and ill def surpass him 10 fold

Also im looking at his talents @sharp meteor theres no fucking way hes that high and missing the demo red and shield charge damage talents

Oh he does have the demo red talent just drustvar mobile shit bug

But no shield charge dmg talent? Possibly why his ratings fluxing so hard. That talents a game changer 100%

[tawdry badge]

4set pumps

[lavish quest]

Just got gatekept by doulbe mage and ele bot

funnnnnn

[fallen estuary]

Welkum to da kluuuubbb

[sharp meteor]

I see the shield charge talents.

He doesn't take 1-handed spec, though.

Kind of demonic but might be cool.

[drowsy yarrow]

Is there any way to set up a sound effect for when your teammates are getting cc'd in arena?

[sharp meteor]

https://wago.io/Dl9GhMDxH

There's also BigDebuffs to show when either party member is affected by something on your party frames.

[drowsy yarrow]

Thank you!

[random fractal]

i think hes trying to burst tbh

shockwave hits hella hard with that build

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, but 1h weapon spec is 5% off everything.

It's like the bleed passive or that

if you want sonic boom

[random fractal]

thats suck for consistency but i dont think he wants consistency

big damage plosion based

[sharp meteor]

I am not vibing with it but I'll definitely try it eventually. Also gotta try mastery/vers prot this season on at least one char instead of just playing 50% haste on all of them, lmao.

[fallen estuary]

That 1 hander spec is a huge diff on burst windows lmao

And universal dot damage as well

Hes literally leaking damage taking TR shit

[sharp meteor]

Yeah. I was gonna try, like, spear/sonic and avatar at one point.

But didn't have mastery so skipped it.

[fallen estuary]

Lemmie tell u

[sharp meteor]

Bis play might be haste/vers into ideal lobbies and the mastery/vers into bad matchups aka casters where you gotta kill in a go.

[fallen estuary]

Mastery is doo doo rn for prot

Haste verse is very sexxi rn

Or atleast prior haste with some mastery

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, haste is my jam. Gotta go fast, bleed build every game.

Wonder if prot ladder dies again this season.

[fallen estuary]

Most likely

I see the blue sword horse man low on ladduh

Hes not gonna be there for long tbh

[eager hazel]

what spec is better for battlegrounds? or 3v3 ? arms or fury?

[sharp meteor]

Arms. It's always Arms right now.

[ivory ice]

yo is fury gonna be good now??

[bright stream]

for bgs/world, it'll be fine, for learning melee it'll be good, for serious pvp it'll be mid tier at most

[sharp meteor]

Probably not, but it'll be less bad.

[bright stream]

fury has design issues that mean its basically limited to being b/a tier even when its damage is overpowered

[sharp meteor]

Lord Smexxin will buff it until it's good.

[ivory ice]

ty, i dont trust sim dude but thanks, I've been playing hc and sod and just heard it got buffed lol

[graceful glacier]

fury is going to be fun

fury is already like a a tier spec

but gonna be like s++

[sharp meteor]

Hmm.

I don't know about that. 😅

[bright stream]

fury maxes at a tier bro

[graceful glacier]

i dont think so

[bright stream]

its really not built for pvp

[graceful glacier]

its great in pvp tho

[bright stream]

at low cr?

sure

bgs? sure

[graceful glacier]

its good at high cr

[bright stream]

but its not s tier

[bright stream]

lol

the only time fury is playable at high cr

is when it has an outrageous damage profile

[graceful glacier]

fury has a high skill gap between a good and bad one

i mean fury has insane dmg rn

[bright stream]

mechanically, it's utility/cds are poorly designed for pvp

[graceful glacier]

the utility/cds are fine tho

[bright stream]

you're trolling fo sure

dh/hunter/fury are the lowest skill expression range classes/specs in teh game

[graceful glacier]

i mean arms is easier than fury is

[bright stream]

yeah you're trolling for sure

[graceful glacier]

and at high cr fury is harder to play

because you have to trade defensives better

i mean i played fury at a high cr last season and plan to this season too

[bright stream]

I played it high solo both s1 and s2, its not good

[graceful glacier]

its great in shuffle tho

i got #1 fury last season

[bright stream]

its great until you hit the wall of needing to make plays to win

[graceful glacier]

its built almost perfectly for shuffle

[bright stream]

and then its very weak

[graceful glacier]

fury is so much better for making plays tho

[bright stream]

because fury doesnt have a play

[graceful glacier]

the setup and dmg output fury has is great

you just have to know how to setup for yourself as fury to create those windows

[bright stream]

furys windows/setups are simpler

than any melee except dh

its literally the best melee spec in the game, to learn how to play melee, because there's nothing in the class/spec, its all about fundamentals

[graceful glacier]

its not that simple if you actually think about it

we have to make setups to win games

because our defensives lack compared

[bright stream]

bro I'm over here on my dk every season playing choppins 11 finger cocaine dance for settups

fury is straight up simple as hell

I played a load of it too, don't get me wrong, I want it to be good

but its not

[graceful glacier]

its great tho

lol

and arms is really braindead to play

[bright stream]

this is genuniely a wild take

why do you think fury is even on equal footing as arms

shit season 1/2 fury was a 3 button spec

[graceful glacier]

fury has the burst and the cleave dmg if done right to out dmg arms

and the defensives that fury have lack but if you learn to trade well you win almost every game

[bright stream]

right, however, what you're talking about there isnt fury as a spec

you're talking about playing fundamentals very well

[graceful glacier]

i mean sure

[bright stream]

trading cds, positioning, target selection, things like that

[graceful glacier]

but you have to know the fundamentals very very well

[bright stream]

fury FORCES you to do those things well

[graceful glacier]

to play fury at high rating

[bright stream]

because its the only way to get anything out of it

[graceful glacier]

arms you just press bladestorm and ms and stuff dies

[bright stream]

arms is much easier to generate kills/wins by plays

because it has a playbook, yes

but its also got a higher ceiling/larger range of skill expression

[graceful glacier]

you dont have to play by the book tho

you just press dmg

and win

[bright stream]

yeah to an extent

in fury you dont have a choice tho

because the book is a leaflet lol

[graceful glacier]

fury is the harder spec to master tbh

[bright stream]

its not by a mile

[graceful glacier]

i mean it simply is

[bright stream]

arms is easier to play to the same rating as fury

[graceful glacier]

what makes arms so hard?

arms has legit everything

you have ignore pain, parry, ms heals, impending

you are basically a tank

[bright stream]

rght right, so you're basically describing

the same thing I am

so with arms, you as a player have to be 'less skilled with it'

to get the same result as fury

that's not because arms is 'easier to play'

[sharp meteor]

better dmg profile better defensives more utility more options

[bright stream]

its because the outcome based on your ability to play it is better

[sharp meteor]

idk if fury is good it has to be overtuned because it's just a glorified quest mob of a spec

[graceful glacier]

fury rotation punishes you for trading wrong

arms you just spam dmg

and you are fine

[sharp meteor]

No fury is just bad lmao

[graceful glacier]

fury is fine

[sharp meteor]

Bit better on Tuesday, tho~

[graceful glacier]

fury is fine rn

i kept up with pre nurfed dh

and out dmged them almost every game

[bright stream]

right

but again

[sharp meteor]

Man

[bright stream]

what youre describing is you as a player

not the spec

[graceful glacier]

and fury defensives are fine if you keep battle trance up

[bright stream]

sure, again tho

you getting 100% out of the spec

doesnt make it a good spec

it just means you play it very well

[sharp meteor]

Ah yes battle trance don't worry fellas I'm good this go, I got my battle trance up

[bright stream]

if you took that to another spec

you'd get easier/better results

[sharp meteor]

I mow people down on prot it don't mean the spec isn't balls

[graceful glacier]

i mean fury you just have to trade cds properly

and you are fine

[sharp meteor]

although fury nowhere near as useless as prot

[bright stream]

sure, fine/good/decent etc

but its not s tier

[graceful glacier]

prot is just a fury without dmg

[bright stream]

and it just straight up can't be S tier with its current design

it'd need a new ability, a revised pvp talent, or something like that

[graceful glacier]

i would still like fury to get ignore pain

or bladestorm

[bright stream]

and even then, it would also need insane damage

[sharp meteor]

Need rage to rampage

[graceful glacier]

i think the issue with fury isnt the dmg

bc fury dmg is fine

its the lack of defensives

[sharp meteor]

Fury does nothing except dmg

[bright stream]

I was gonna say it either needs an offensive or defensive tool

[graceful glacier]

honestly i think they need to give fury ignore pain

or

[sharp meteor]

Revert war paint nerf ong

[sharp meteor]

You just wouldn't press it like in SL

[bright stream]

I think tho

it needs a new offensive tool

even if tis a new cc

[graceful glacier]

true but it would give us a mini wall

for goes

or for demo locks that do alot of dmg for 0 reason

[bright stream]

imagine a 'reverse' spear of bastion

for example

[graceful glacier]

idk

[bright stream]

a circle of spears that you can't move into

[graceful glacier]

i would rather get necro banner back

[bright stream]

or something like that

necro banner could be good

team utility of some kind

especially because fury bars are fucking empty

another shout?

[graceful glacier]

idk if we need team utility

[bright stream]

loads of options

[graceful glacier]

we need walls

or some dmg reduction

[river walrus]

My main and alts during SS the cc trinket keeps going on cd from one round to the other.....is this happening to anybody else?? I press it in one round and the cd won't reset for next round

[graceful glacier]

which is why i brought up ignore pain

[bright stream]

right, but fury struggles in 2 scenarios

1 when you're the target and cant survive, and it already has decent tools for this

[graceful glacier]

fury has too much fury rn

[bright stream]

and 2, when you can't keep your allies alive, and you get ignored

which it doesnt have great tools for

[graceful glacier]

we have the 2 intervenes

the issue is

we cant use intervenes or we lose so much hp

[bright stream]

yeah maybe

ideally, you want to get something

thats tricky to use as well

[graceful glacier]

so i think ignore pain would be a good add in

[bright stream]

and the better it is the more you get out of it

[graceful glacier]

plus it would make fury less zug

and more rotation based

[bright stream]

they also need to

remove some of the disarms in game

disarm kinda cooked against fury

or just tone them down

[graceful glacier]

yeah

i think the disarms are good

[bright stream]

or even, passive disarm resis for fury

[graceful glacier]

but i dont think they should be 6 secs

[bright stream]

like you've got 2 weapons, make disarm be 50% effective or 50% duration

[graceful glacier]

honestly

what i think should be a thing

is make a 1 min cd

like zerker shout

and call it backup wep

where you can use bloodthirst for 3-4 secs

during enrage

[bright stream]

Healing loaded defensive tho

Should be reduction based

Otherwise the kit gets trolled too hard by damp nd ms

[graceful glacier]

true

honestly what could make fury interesting

is make it where impending isnt reduced by damp or ms

[thick reef]

feels like fury is a glass cannon right now, 2 min enrage reg is weak and the leech amount from bt will be worse as the game goes on in to damp, same with battle trance and impending these aren't deff cds just a weaker dh leech they need to fix the warpaint back as it was 10% not 5%

[fallen estuary]

the top CR player atm in NA is named meatbeaterx 😔 and i get banned for 3 days for having "ligma" as a name

[spice hornet]

lmaoo

[tight herald]

what is best craftable gear for arms pvp, i just started playing pvp and icy veins guide didnt have that one

i know first one will be boots, but what second one

[pure hornet]

Can any one help with icc blood infusion. ? Tarren mill

[finite fox]

Did the fury changes shake anything up or nah

[idle falcon]

How come arms is stronger than fury this patch?

I thought fury set piece would make it op

[spark sparrow]

Feral druids still one shotting in a single stun so i doubt it

[idle falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/stunned-wow-omg-lego-batman-lego-batman-movie-gif-7647770

[teal hedge]

Hermozz they fucking got him

[spice hornet]

@galachad

[wheat jay]

still gone

[distant cloud]

so weird question - i played a bunch of solo shuffle yesterday got to 1400-something. today i looked at my pvp rating and it's back down to 767, my season rating is back to unranked, and i think my total rounds played is off. anyone know what's up?

[weak wedge]

Did you swap specs ?

[bright stream]

cause fury design kinda garbage

[distant cloud]

i guess yeah, i'm fury rn whereas i was running in arms for pvp

[idle falcon]

?

Wdym

[teal hedge]

@galachad

[idle falcon]

@galachad

NOOOO

Was he banned or did he change his name?

We isn't in the server

I just checked

What happened?

[bright stream]

scroll up/search

sounds like he was learning about how to talk to people

the hard way