pvp

[spice hornet]

[sharp meteor]

Queued into him on Blood, actually.

[scarlet flame]

just go druid bro

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, so happy when I can queue into a physical spec.

Warlock/Mage has me in disrepair.

[tiny dagger]

fatality or exilarating blows ? better to get more ms hits or have that 30% pop?

[spice hornet]

Ping me when Arms isn't C tier

[mild thunder]

@spice hornet @spice hornet @spice hornet

[spice hornet]

[scarlet flame]

i like you fox, but im glad you get hogwarts comps

tank players 100% deserve to be miserable for the rest of their lives

[sharp meteor]

Honestly it's just a worse version of most other rock paper scissors matchups.

And I seldom play these outside shuff/bgs.

Because they're legit awful.

[spice hornet]

frost bomb was seriously overbuffed

[sharp meteor]

Mage needs a 300k crit every dr.

[mild thunder]

@wheat jay survival unironically feels F tier right now

my damage hasnt gone up from s2

FD change feels awful

[spice hornet]

well thats cuz survival was doing s3 dam in s2

lol

[mild thunder]

stop

[spice hornet]

thsi poor ww on my team

err in my shuff

[mild thunder]

highest surv rn is 1900 btw

@spice hornet

[spice hornet]

thats cuz they are all getting free rating as bm

lol

survival mains m,an

ill ping you when survival is S tier

@mild thunder @mild thunder @mild thunder @mild thunder

oh sht

[mild thunder]

[spice hornet]

@fallen estuary youre casually chillin on your immortal WW then all of a sudden you get exploded for a like 600k damage in .5 seconds wyd

[sharp meteor]

Need hunter buffs more than ever (this benefits me as prot).

[mild thunder]

you have a 60% magic wall kekw

[mild thunder]

bm and mm are both broken as fuck

[spice hornet]

i encountered one survival at 2100 mmr in shuff and he got 0 - 6 'd @mild thunder

[mild thunder]

needs buffs

nah idk, i dont think surv needs buffs, i just think a lot of other specs need nerfs

or fuck it, make everything overpowered oneshotty again like SL (please no)

[pale minnow]

alot of leavers nowdays... my guy leaves after 1st round lol, usually these are healers,4 games / 3 leavers

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-gif-21644488

we need to reform somehow this cringyass shit community, people are to careless

[sharp meteor]

1. People gain 96 CR per win until 1500 or something, so leaving only docks 150 of this, which is 1.5 rounds worth

2. Leaving doesn't lower your MMR

So yeah early season it's rough

[spice hornet]

something even worse i am seeing is beyond 2100 mmr, every lobby has a 0 cr guy fresh from mmr last season

so they q up into their first lobby being the ultimate sweat lobby and go 0 - 6

usually its ahealer

[sharp meteor]

Mhm, yep. Not fun for anybody.

Also got people at like 2400 mmr from last seas sitting 2 hour queues because nobody else playing.

Should've actually knocked everybody to like 1500-1800.

[fallen solar]

How do some of these people have a two set already and don’t have CR?

It’s the PvP set also

Also is it even worth it to get on arms this season? I have a DH also. DH just seems like it’s doing a lot better right now.

But I ain’t a meta hopper!

[mild thunder]

arms is not bad lmao

ya'll need to stop coping

it's probably the 2nd best melee dps

[sharp meteor]

Keystone Master and Ahead of the Curve give the token as well as Challenger.

[pale minnow]

WTF DID I FUCKING SAY NOT SO LONG AGO

[sharp meteor]

They all give the same token so you can buy either variant.

Ksm then buy the pvp one, pvp then buy the "pve" one, etc.

[mild thunder]

you only get 1 token tho

[pale minnow]

the game has cringe and shit mmr system, the whole can get to the garbadge straight up

[mild thunder]

what

english pls

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, he was just confused that somebody had 2pc pvp despite not playing rated.

[sharp meteor]

Uhhhh. It's for the most part fine in arena aside from early season deflation.

Shuffle is all messed up for various reasons.

[teal hedge]

Only gripes I got is queue-times

[magic wing]

True

The pressure on kills is big and my gear is still trash

[teal hedge]

Fym I wait 30 minutes for 5-10 minutes of the peak of gaming (LOSing my healer and dying)

[magic wing]

MS , BS hit hard which is what we wanted

[mild thunder]

gigachad arms strats

[fallen solar]

Surv number one

[fallen solar]

🫡

[mild thunder]

number one at dying quickest

[fallen solar]

https://tenor.com/view/adl-amideslobbies-antichasse-chasse-hunter-gif-23001846

[mild thunder]

what's the most fun OP spec @sharp meteor ? im thinking outlaw

[pale minnow]

Shuffle is cringe right now you can't play the game like fr, every cucksucker healer leaves 9 out of 10 times, and makes you wait 30 min for a trash game like that, shit ain't punished enough for these kunts to stop

[mild thunder]

maybe sub

[sharp meteor]

Outlaw, Brew

[mild thunder]

outlaw at least requires braincells, right?

it's not like arms or dh

[sharp meteor]

They both require a degree of finesse.

[mild thunder]

ok big, imma main outlaw

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, 38 minute wait to have a healer gap then they leave.

[sharp meteor]

I was gonna say I hear surv is fun but it does not look fun rn.

[mild thunder]

it is not

[sharp meteor]

Putting the spear on the shelf.

[mild thunder]

feral felt fine because i can at least hold W and zerg people down with bites

so yea it's squishy, but the damage makes up for it

[fallen solar]

The four piece for BM looks like it’s bout to be the hunter spec to go to

[mild thunder]

surv damage

is uhh

so tremendously ass

[teal hedge]

Brew in pvp? @sharp meteor

Do tell

[fallen solar]

It’s not unless you line up the burst correctly

Then it’s ass

[mild thunder]

it's still ass

ik how to play survival lol

[sharp meteor]

Fun and good. Feels scuffo into casters, but it's like fat Windwalker.

[fallen solar]

I do too. But I’m no Bicmex

[mild thunder]

lining up all my easily-counterable burst to do 200k with 3 abilities

[fallen solar]

I suck at kiting

[magic wing]

Or you win 4/6 for 25 rating

[teal hedge]

242 k tiger palm???

[teal hedge]

Fuck are they feeding you lmao

[sharp meteor]

this was last season mind you

[magic wing]

What is that

[teal hedge]

Comically high damage

[sharp meteor]

Full mastery/vers crafted or conq gear brew last season could tiger palm people for half their health or more

[mild thunder]

surv needs some better on-demand burst

like old chakrams

[sharp meteor]

which is why cutoff was like 2700

and other tanks were like 2k

[mild thunder]

mongoose bite rework

[fallen solar]

That’s why I’ve been playing BM. Damage is crazy

4 piece will be even more crazy

[sharp meteor]

BM unreal crank rn.

And will be batshit with 4pc.

[magic wing]

I hope to never see BM in my games

Prot already ruined a couple

War

[fallen solar]

I haven’t seen any MM lol

[mild thunder]

idgaf how storng the other hunter specs are

im not touching them

[magic wing]

Touch them

[fallen solar]

Join us

One of us

[mild thunder]

nope

boring ass ranged specs

retardd mode

braindead as fuck

no thanks

[teal hedge]

Real shit is going EU

Eu ladder at least 17% harder than NA ladder

[sharp meteor]

Oh? 👀

[teal hedge]

Trust

[magic wing]

2 prot wars once, one on each side

[sharp meteor]

Those were Paladins, brother.

[magic wing]

Might be

They just attacked each other in middle

Peak regardation

[keen light]

guys I am plaiyng my warr but 2vs2s only, I am copying the #1 warri in 2s in the world his build https://check-pvp.fr/eu/Ragnaros/Seifcham but i noticed his 3s and shuffle is low, is his build a good build for 2v2 only? tia

[mild thunder]

[spice hornet]

holy fuck

[mild thunder]

all arms warriors run essentially the same build, it's fine

there's literally negative thought going into talents

[magic wing]

I sometimes swap disarm for shout

Thats it

[fallen estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/ჯოკერი-joker-gif-21710475

[fallen solar]

It’s casual mode. It’s beating your meat while playing mode

[mild thunder]

yea, that doesnt interest me

it's not fun

[spice hornet]

@fallen estuary where are you located

[fallen estuary]

IRAQ

[magic wing]

The TRENCHES

[spice hornet]

When are they gonna make dabdaddy SF

[mild thunder]

when is @spice hornet gonna be r1 arms warrior in 2v2

[fallen solar]

It’s all resto druids on the ladder and a couple of DHs in the top 50.

Few rogues and DKs

No arms. Buff arms

[spice hornet]

When I turn my brain off and q the games like a zuggg zug ape

[fallen estuary]

dabdaddy funko pops

[brisk egret]

Is there any fury streamer / yt so I can watch a few recent arenas? Woudl lvoe to try it

[teal hedge]

On god!

Dabdaddy for stormforged

[brisk egret]

those are names 😄 ?

[teal hedge]

Ah no, that is another member is this chat

[mild thunder]

No top end players really play fury

So no, not really

[brisk egret]

my highest ever was 1800 wit harms

so I'm bad to medium at most 😉

playing mostly mage at 1600

just like fury from PVE, and I thought it's fun so trying it in arena

[fallen estuary]

OWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNN GAAWWWWWDDD

[teal hedge]

Dabdaddy how the fuck are you fdoing

[fallen estuary]

Im getting shot by your pfp currently

[fallen solar]

I feel like if you play a rogue spec you a simp

Just like us hunters

[wheat jay]

I liked fd change

And ye its dogshit xD

Fd change unironically biggest survi buff

[mild thunder]

we're now way less mobile into stuff like druid and frost mage

have less utility with self-dispels

and all we get is +1.5s on the FD wall (you get oneshot during stuns anyway)

[wheat jay]

pre-use it

[mild thunder]

i do

you still die in a kidney lol

1000% am not on-board with the FD change

and i dont wanna hear shit about how a self-dispel like that is "bad for the game", because dh, ret and ww still have theirs

[dark topaz]

Got 1800 on warr, i can play the game now

[magic wing]

Isnt fury decent with the 4p ?

Seems better than the last one atleast

[sage raptor]

What was the change?

[faint pumice]

Love fury, nothing bad with the spec, was running it the whole last season. Arms is more versatile though. Your toolkit is bigger and your efficiency during the match is raising (with fury it’s declining). The less health the opponent has and deeper we are in the dampening the more efficient arms gets.

[mild thunder]

no longer dispels, but the 90% dmg reduc lasts 3 seconds

[magic wing]

Fury is kinda predictable

Arms you can fear a healer and finish a mf in a sec with little cds

Fury does shit with no cds

[mild thunder]

fury has no way of avoiding being shutdown

and doesnt have the 3 cc immunities to help abuse intervene

[tiny acorn]

How do i deal with frost mage as arms? I get them like 90% of the lobbies

[lavish quest]

Ddos them

[fallen solar]

Guys we gotta shut down Moonguard. They got characters in there giving each other head and doing weird emotes

Just saw a Draenei getting top from a night elf in the courtyard while others were staring

Wtf is going on with people

Im going to get reported probably because I keep fucking with them

Worth it

Also if I get back on my arms, is haste the play?

[wispy cedar]

Fartji

[grand scaffold]

20% haste give or take 2%

and the rest mastery

[green anchor]

he's back

[grand scaffold]

🕶️

[scarlet barn]

Ndogo

The dogo

[grand scaffold]

lol

[grand scaffold]

😂

[leaden lynx]

people are so disgusting. omg, what courtyard? so i can avoid it it. so gross

[grand scaffold]

whats the point of doing that in wow anyway

degenerate behavior th

tbh*

[scarlet barn]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

Thats how some people got gold back in old days

[grand scaffold]

😂

[tribal wedge]

🧐

[sharp meteor]

🥶

[stoic terrace]

Has anyone tried protection warrior PvP?

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, a little bit.

[weak wedge]

After winning first round against Frost Mage / SP somehow, mage got very very low in the 2nd, made the mistake of chasing him and got clapped, didn't expect the stun 😄

Got down so hard and fast it sent me to the login screen with a server crash

[muted surge]

Is your charge on 1?

[stoic terrace]

how was your experience with it ?

[weak wedge]

Where else ? 😄

[sharp meteor]

Great into physical aka ww/warr/hunter.

Kind of suffering into everything else.

Oh, and rogue.

[magic wing]

Middle mouse button

Bis

[fickle forge]

PI+Veins

[tribal wedge]

no PI

[magic wing]

Anybody else so autismo like me when you mentally do the rotation IRL ?

[weak wedge]

Muscle memory, charge has been on 1 for so long that it can now drive a car 😄

[urban skiff]

60 hours until they announce arms nerfs

you heard it here first

[lavish quest]

Don't you dare speak that into existence

We're still waiting for arms buffs

[urban skiff]

I'm fury

bring the nerfs

I'm ready

[magic wing]

Cap

DH,BMnerfs

Warr pve aura buff

[urban skiff]

If anyone wants spoiler:
||Arms getting some weird nerf to something nobody asked for to be nerfed. It will unintentionally completely break something (like fury's slaughterhouse)

DH nerf
ret buff
rogue nerf
Demo lock damage profile shifted from one pet to another, on paper it's damage neutral, in effect it's a buff||

I'm calling it now

[lavish quest]

Just because you make bad life decisions doesn't mean the rest of us should suffer

[urban skiff]

I'm not here for an OP time, I'm here for a fun time

[lavish quest]

Well obviously not, fury doesn't have overpower, that's an arms skill 😉

[mild thunder]

Dh, arms, uhdk, rdruid, bm, frost all need some nerfs. Or buff everything else and have a retardfest meta

I’d rather things get nerfed

[urban skiff]

i'd be ok with dh dam if they took out their survival

[mild thunder]

Dh is squishy

[urban skiff]

blur being 90% omni dodge on 1 min cd has to be a bug

[mild thunder]

The only thing that’s overtuned is their damage

[mild thunder]

Half the melee specs in the game can counter dodges. Rogues stun through, warriors stun and overpower through, dks can stun through, rets etc.

[urban skiff]

other half of melee also wants to play the game tho

[mild thunder]

Yea, and they can counter blur super easily. The issue with dh is just that their damage is still majorly overtuned

Their stuns are maybe a lil too strong as well, feels like versing a sub rogue

5sec stun, 4sec ranged stun, ranged blind, ranged aoe fear, ranged aoe slows… idk why they have so much cc

[pine pine]

Havoc gets a lot of cc from sharing toolkit with the highest cc tank in the game. Which makes them super toxic in pvp lol

[mild thunder]

yea havoc has never felt as though it's balanced around the cc it has, like rogue is... just feels like something that's there

[magic wing]

Ive seen this dude cleave 2 dudes to like 20% in 4-5 secs

Regarded

Rogue compared to DH is a squishy bug

[scarlet flame]

I can’t wait for them to nerf arms damage and it to feel like s2 all over again

Good thing I boosted the op god class warlock just in case

[mild thunder]

s2, the other season where arms was top-tier ... but yea idc about arms damage, i've literally never said that's what they should nerf

[scarlet flame]

Yeah but that’s what they’re gunna nerf

And s2 was dogshit arms doing a third all the other top specs damage

[mild thunder]

arms damage wasnt even bad in the tail of s2

at all

[scarlet flame]

Tail end it got buffed

Majority it was awful

[mild thunder]

the tail-end of s2 lasted months

[scarlet flame]

Majority of s2 also lasted months

[mild thunder]

tail of the season is really all that matters ngl

and blizz seriously dropped the ball last season, went wayyyy too long without tuning and they're doing it again

[scarlet flame]

All that matters for 2% of the player base who get their titles

Dh doing the same thing ret did making people quit because it’s actually op

[sharp meteor]

End of the season best time to play for anybody.

[scarlet flame]

And they are taking way to long to address it

[scarlet flame]

Not for people who play the start and quit from op shit

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, that is a problem.

Deflation + imbalance makes people lose interest.

I've known a lot of people to get like 2200 early then bail when if they came back and queued they'd finish glad in a few days.

[wheat jay]

bruh you're serious?

literally same cc as warrior xD

with addition of one other cc that breaks on dot dmg lmao

like, i get dh hate, but don't talk bs at least lol

[scarlet flame]

Sb and fear are like 8 yards, shockwave is melee range come lmao

[wheat jay]

isn't storm bolt 20 yards

still, shit's basically the same

except warr is better designed in every other aspect

lol

[mild thunder]

most people, in general, push at the end of the season

[mild thunder]

yea but arms doesnt kill you in a 4sec stun - dh does

what

ok now i know 1000% you're either hardcore delirious and coping, or a straight retardd

[scarlet flame]

I forgot sb but it’s like dk one. Fear like 12 yard range

[wheat jay]

shorter cd, longer duration

dh fear is 3s

[mild thunder]

and longer range

but yea dh just has more cc and gets better offensive use out of it because they actually kill in a 5s stun, while arms usually doesnt

[wheat jay]

kill in a stun is telegraphed tho

as hunter its the easiest shit to live it

warrior

still kinda easy just gotta know when to use your shit

[scarlet flame]

Arms kill you fast but not in a sb from full hp

[mild thunder]

ofc artji is actually tryna defend dh

[wheat jay]

neither does dh, stop cappin...

unless you use 0 defs

[wheat jay]

as i said, i can understand dh hate

[spice hornet]

Lol

[wheat jay]

but at least stop talking out of your ass

[scarlet flame]

You can’t use defensives in a stun

[spice hornet]

Arms has low burst

[mild thunder]

remember when artji was a sv chad?

[spice hornet]

It’s all consistent Dan

[mild thunder]

fotm reroller cringeee

[scarlet flame]

Hunt decree death sweep in 1 stun kills a guy

[mild thunder]

what i said is objectively true - dh has more cc than warrior, and doesnt feel tuned around their cc

[wheat jay]

it doesn't tho

[thick reef]

hey i need yalls opinions. Freinds buying me race change on 3rd alt im not sure what i wanna go. deciding between gnome/nelf can i get some opinions

[scarlet flame]

290k decree, 350k sweep, 150k hunt

Idk seems like it does

[sharp meteor]

Nelf looks better and meld is good but gnome racial is easier and arguably better.

[mild thunder]

artji cope

[sharp meteor]

Minutely off global root break is great.

[mild thunder]

gnomechad

[thick reef]

yeah thats the problem i have. i wanna be nelf cuz it looks sick and once in a while having fun with meld but gnome is just insane overall its hard

[thick reef]

Littlegala

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, the struggle.

[wheat jay]

bro you're out of your mind now xD

[scarlet flame]

Nelf useless if you can’t meld stuns

[wheat jay]

what is this cap?

[scarlet flame]

I played 3s with a dh on my warrior

[wheat jay]

ye i played 3s just now

[scarlet flame]

I watched him global people in 1 stun

[wheat jay]

and i call cap

[spice hornet]

Arms is B tier atm

[scarlet flame]

He killed like 7 people with aoe damage he wasn’t even targeting

[wheat jay]

ye

cuz fel barrage

[mild thunder]

[wheat jay]

kinda like bladestorm, isnt it?

;D

[scarlet flame]

No

[wheat jay]

also

[scarlet flame]

[wheat jay]

elysian decree is 200k max crit

so stop the cap

[thick reef]

what about melding at like low hp to prevent a kill?

[wheat jay]

the hunt is 150k crit

[scarlet flame]

Does nothing you just get broken out with aoe

[mild thunder]

stop the cap

[wheat jay]

death sweep is 250k crit if you get lucky rng from talents

as i said

i understand the hate

[thick reef]

word, ty

[wheat jay]

but stop talking out of your ass

[scarlet flame]

I have personally been hit with a 279k decree

[wheat jay]

pre-nerf maybe

[scarlet flame]

It was yesterday

[wheat jay]

i call bs

[mild thunder]

"i just admitted we easily hit 600k in 2 globals, but stop the hate" 🤡

[scarlet flame]

Okay you can call it but you’re wrong

[mild thunder]

just because you fotm reroll, doesnt mean you have to act like a cringe fotm reroller @wheat jay

[scarlet flame]

That’s ignoring the fact most of their damage is aoe you don’t even need to control

[spice hornet]

I’m sad. I liked when galartji was a hunter player

[scarlet flame]

You just exist and kill people

[mild thunder]

i'll carry the torch

[wheat jay]

y'all talk out of your ass

[scarlet flame]

Nah

[spice hornet]

[wheat jay]

it is what it is

[mild thunder]

[scarlet flame]

You gunna be saying that when they gut dh or what

[wheat jay]

ye

[mild thunder]

guys, dh is actually fine stop talking outta your ass, i rerolled this season and im already a god im actually so good this spec bad im just amazing you guys are haters fr fr ong bruh trust me bro

[wheat jay]

well, you do you

you're just talking out of your ass

[scarlet flame]

My ass is smart as hell then

[wheat jay]

it is what it is

[spice hornet]

[wheat jay]

full of shit but if that's what you call brains

[mild thunder]

dh gonna get nerfed again and he'll act as though this era never existed

just wait it out, fellas

[wheat jay]

better than crying about my survi being weak 24/7

🙂

[scarlet flame]

[mild thunder]

at least i can respect a fellow sv chad

struggle against the tide

[wheat jay]

that tide is a wall

you don't have the tools to break through that wall

gotta have hope in qwik

but qwik is bought by mud

😦

[mild thunder]

or at least reroll to something respectable

not dh

[wheat jay]

warrior?

[mild thunder]

feral

[wheat jay]

sike, can't roll warrior cuz kargish plays it

bro im not a furry

[mild thunder]

anything that requires brain activity

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/bongo-cat-demon-hunter-wow-gif-22567542

this does

did some sick outplays today

[thick reef]

play dh to make him mad

teach him a lesson

[wheat jay]

pre-fear a rogue kidney/bomb

pre-blur shit

[thick reef]

no more kfc for kargish

[mild thunder]

🧢

[wheat jay]

im still down for kfc tho thats the funny thing

dh/warr is just better and currently more fun to play

i can struggle on kfc, or i can enjoy myself playing dh/warr

[thick reef]

yeah, but u guys gotta bring it back 1 day we need to see the chad kfc

[wheat jay]

its still there

[thick reef]

yea right now dh/war is just it

[wheat jay]

but my survi got 3 trinkets in the vault lmao

[thick reef]

3 trinkets?

must be a new record

lmao wtf

[mild thunder]

until it gets nerfed

lol

then you'll ditch

[wheat jay]

maybe

[mild thunder]

and reroll to X new thing again

[wheat jay]

who knows

better to have a wide variety of classes to choose from

than feral/survi

[mild thunder]

nope

[wheat jay]

So, what else in your opinion i should roll

Go on

Surprise me

[mild thunder]

i mean

those are the 2 most respectable specs

imo

both very chadly

[wheat jay]

Feral is not chad

[mild thunder]

sub/outlaw both cool too, have great skill-caps

[wheat jay]

Shapeshifting quadpolar weirdo in a fursuit

Outlaw/sub cringe cc bots

[mild thunder]

you main a cringey edgelord designed for emo 12 year olds

chill

[wheat jay]

Oh i think i hit the nerve xD

[sharp meteor]

You're making it worse.

[mild thunder]

who

[wheat jay]

So, I can either play a cc bot, or a zug zug class

Or feral that's just running around and spams cyclone on whoever's drs ran out

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/pmc-spongebob-emo-gif-25889383

dh class fantasy

[wheat jay]

Instead of a cc bot like rogue id rather play something that's zug zug

That leaves me with dh dk monk enh

Enh sucks

Monk has to run for 80% of the game

Dk is immobile as fuck which i find boring

That leaves me with a dh

[mild thunder]

ww never runs

anymore

it's just another pve bot

[sharp meteor]

Him.

[wheat jay]

Wanna be more productive, go complain about this

Straight from Reddit xD

1s of damage is what the post said

[marble scaffold]

Is it worth to transfer a PVE token for 2 set as arms? or just wait 2 more weeks

[mild thunder]

@fickle forge come collect your mans, bruh

[spice hornet]

Frost is busted

[wheat jay]

You hate me cuz you aint me fursuit enjoyer

[spice hornet]

Frost hit a 376k frost bomb lol

[mild thunder]

i dont hate you

im embarrassed by you

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-sleepy-bed-time-time-to-sleep-gif-17839042

also yes

[wheat jay]

I was the survi when noone else was, i suffered, now i inflict suffering

[mild thunder]

feral class fantasy is incredibly bis

[wheat jay]

Cute

[teal hedge]

Love these critters

The car

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, you're just a cat that scratches and bites stuff.

[wheat jay]

There's a stray coming to my house daily

Man's getting some meat and water/milk

Black as night

[mild thunder]

how can anyone hate kitty theme

[wheat jay]

Claws of shirvallah bruiser feral when?

If it was like that again id 100% play it

[mild thunder]

only issue with feral rn imo is too bite-focused and needs some unnerfs to its self-healing

[urban skiff]

no clue. I've been feral main since vanilla until legion and had occasional seasons where I went back to feral from DK/War

Feral is just always fun

[mild thunder]

it's got all the residual nerfs from when druid abused fleshcraft in SL - frenzied regen heals for 16% before damp + ms in pvp

[teal hedge]

Only shame with playing druid is you don't get to see your drip when transformed

[wheat jay]

True

[mild thunder]

fire kitty looks sick tho

but ye

and my druid has the drip of all time

[teal hedge]

Show

[fickle forge]

I already scolded him 10 times over

[mild thunder]

uno momento

[teal hedge]

Any of you guys roll a dk for pvp?

[wheat jay]

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

[teal hedge]

Does it feel adjacent to warrior or does it do its own thing?

[mild thunder]

i want to play dk for the elite set, but it's actually so fucking boring

i cant even stomach leveling it

[teal hedge]

Yeah the elite set is so fucking good

[mild thunder]

uhdk is physically painful to play

[teal hedge]

Yeah it feels very clunky

But it's the most viable spec for dk-pvp, right?

[fickle forge]

Frost DK in a way? But it's so ass and designed around Pillar goes only

[urban skiff]

I want to play my dk but trying to fix keybinds to make room for even more short low impact cooldowns is just uuuugh

[teal hedge]

This guy gets it

You goons wanna see my current action bar?

[urban skiff]

It's like half your buttons are colossus smash but it's like 2% buff

[mild thunder]

@teal hedge these are the 2 sets i swap between

[teal hedge]

You guys fw this layout?

Right is very clean

I like it

[mild thunder]

also no

that layout

is offensive

wtf are you cooking

[teal hedge]

Trust (trust)

[mild thunder]

this is bis

the far-left bars hide in combat

[teal hedge]

How do you get that zoomed out

[mild thunder]

you need to get an addon

advancedinterfaceoptions

[mild thunder]

it just unlocks interface features that were discontinued/removed from the base settings

[teal hedge]

Is it superstitious to think that Arms has a comparitvely bloated set of abilities in pvp compared to other classes?

I've at least noticed my disc not having as many buttons to manage

[mild thunder]

yes

warrior is probably like... middle of the pack

in terms of binds

[teal hedge]

Then again, arms has a pretty simple rotation

But also a LOT of util

[mild thunder]

feral and sv have the most, sham has quite a few

[urban skiff]

depends who you compare warrior to. Devokers has fewer buttons. Unholy has way more

[mild thunder]

rogue has a lot

[teal hedge]

I might honestly become a healer main

Oh my god I got so much to do this is great

And horrible at the same time

[mild thunder]

snupy/bicmex both have super clean UIs

if you want someone to base it on

[teal hedge]

Snupy is norwegian

Horrible fortune

[mild thunder]

he's got that gamer tism tho

[teal hedge]

Only gripe I have with Bicmex's UI is the fact that he uses some dark theme addon

Really doesn't look good

Also, you can still get by in ranked stuff using honor gear, right?

Or is it too late in the season atp

[mild thunder]

i didnt like it at first

but then i swapped to the dark theme

anjd it's super clean ngbl

[mild thunder]

ye is fine

[lavish quest]

It's hard to take anything Galachad says seriously... but Artji is just a fotm reroller I take joy in killing... 🤔

[mild thunder]

i standby literally everything ive said

people that play op specs just dont like to be told they're playing op specs

[lavish quest]

SV is OP

[magic wing]

I only play warrior. If its op, good. If not, good

[mild thunder]

sv is unironically D tier right now

[lavish quest]

Same tbh, all I do in everything

[mild thunder]

every matchup feels like a painful slog

[mild thunder]

thing is, this is easy to say when warrior has been A/S tier for every season in the history of pvp

so it gets very watered down

[magic wing]

Good

[mild thunder]

it's like people that only play rogue or mage

[magic wing]

Its like C tier now in pve

[mild thunder]

like... you're never actually playing anything that's not op

[magic wing]

So atleast we pump somewhere

[lavish quest]

As it should be

[magic wing]

I played WW before, mained it

[lavish quest]

And that's true, war is often trash in pve, which I do a lot of

Got my AOTC and KSH a few days ago in fact

[teal hedge]

My ui abhorrent in pvp

I gotta get my shit together

[mild thunder]

nothing is trash if you're going for aotc and ksh

tbf

that's like saying X is bad for 1800

[lavish quest]

Trash =/= impossible

[mild thunder]

meta doesnt matter at that level

[lavish quest]

In pve meta doesn't matter, you'll hit the goal eventually after blizz nerfs the content 6 times regardless what you play

But also getting them early on, through all pugging is a different matter lol

[mild thunder]

tbf i misread that as ksm

but even ksh isnt something that's really impacted by meta

the only thing that'll make pushing keys hard is finding groups

[wheat jay]

and yet it is me who kills warriors

[lavish quest]

I got a weird work schedule now so had to leave my raid team and shiz months and months ago so now I just pug all my shit, it sucks but we out here getting it done. I'm top % of warriors in it and I don't even focus on it tbh. Get my 20s timed and get out.

[lavish quest]

When I kill you, it's defeating the meta, when you kill me, it's pulling the weak, we are not the same
😈

[wheat jay]

cap warr does similar numbers to dh most of the time

[mild thunder]

yea i gotcha... i left my raiding guild to only raid weekends with a new guild

[lavish quest]

Well sure... when I'm around to keep em in check

[wheat jay]

warr broken

[lavish quest]

[wheat jay]

gotta nerf

[lavish quest]

Nah nah nah, you just gotta reroll to it

[lavish quest]

I pug the raids too

I coulda week 1 aotc'd probably if I did things a lil differently, but I managed to pug 7/9H first week so wasn't too bad

[lavish quest]

Oh, and the best part, that was one of the rounds in my first shuffle of the season with it starting me at 2k mmr

[teal hedge]

Thoughts on healer ui?

[lavish quest]

I don't heal, but I'm gonna go with no

[teal hedge]

I gotta keep my pookie bears alive

[lavish quest]

Reported

[teal hedge]

I deserve

[magic wing]

Pugged ksh is very impressive if dps war

If prot…

Different story

[fallen estuary]

i make a thread shitting on casters

they all argue non stop

mission acomprished

[lavish quest]

Why? Neither get invited

[magic wing]

Prot gets ez invites compared to dps war

Offmeta dps= 1hr in que

[lavish quest]

I recommend listing your own keys, will get further in life lol

[mild thunder]

my lfg is bugged, and i cant list my key on feral

am very upsetti

[lavish quest]

Play a real spec furry

Who are you, Fox now?

[mild thunder]

feral is probably the most involved dps in the game

actually, not probably

definitely

[pine pine]

That's cap when Arcane mage exists

[lavish quest]

My point stands strong

[mild thunder]

arcane is neither hard nor in-depth

it's just unintuitive

[gentle depot]

druid players and thinking their class is hardest mmo class to ever exist some things never change

[pine pine]

Tell that to the 32 step opener

[mild thunder]

compare feral to the average spec, it's not even close

but yea rn feral is way more dumbed down than i would like

[teal hedge]

Arcane is nightmarish

[mild thunder]

delete apex and convoke, bring back sroar, funnel bite power back into bleeds, rework the aoe and make sabretooth a real buff you have to maintain

[teal hedge]

Takes years off your life

[lavish quest]

Warrior DPS is harder because after queuable heroic dungeons you ain't DPSing no more

[mild thunder]

warrior dps is hard because it's a test to stay awake

feral needs at least 1 more finisher

pls blizz SAVAGE ROAR PLS

https://tenor.com/view/yawn-cat-lion-kitten-adorable-gif-17872944

[lavish quest]

The group I got heroic fyrakk kill with, we were wiping for like 3 hours. It had 2 dps warriors in it, both of them got kicked towards the end for low DPS (mind you this raid lead very much did not want to kick people.) I was the only warrior remaining, as prot.
We got the kill a few pulls later

[lavish quest]

Savage roar was awful

[mild thunder]

isnt arms okayish now after the buffs and with 4pc?

and no, sroar was amazing

2 finishers is too few

bite is way too overpowering rn, especially with the dumbass new saber jaws talent (i hate it so much)

[lavish quest]

Idk, maybe? I mainly tank in pve. I did practice some DPS lately but I don't do it often

And sroar is amazing if you don't want to have fun

Hate those bland maintain this buff stuff

[mild thunder]

it's not bland tho, it affected your energy regen

it's essentially another decision to make with your resources and a stopgap to bite overpowering your rotation

rn feral needs it

[lavish quest]

Pretty sure when I played with it, it literally was just a dmg buff

[mild thunder]

more finishers = more decision-making

[pine pine]

bro was that dh playing blindfolded irl tf

nvm i thought that was a prot meter lmao

[lavish quest]

Hard choice, do I make sure I have this up at all times or do I suck?

[lavish quest]

Just said before practicing DPS 😂

[pine pine]

yeah my brain lagged pretty hard ngl

[lavish quest]

This is the DH meta

🤣

[mild thunder]

yea exactly, it wasnt something you kept up 100% of the time and it wasnt something for which you always used max combo points

[pine pine]

I had to turn it off after getting DC'd in a shuffle earlier from a mind control coming back to -150 rating

[mild thunder]

added some much-needed dynamic spending

only spending at max-combo is lame

[lavish quest]

It was, is buff about to run out? Next finisher is roar

If it makes you feel better, I hated inquisition too

[mild thunder]

not if a bite/pw will net you more dps before the mob dies

idk what inquisition is

[lavish quest]

Roar will still help you with next pack in this gotta go fast sonic gameplay wow is nowadays so not really relevant tbh

[lavish quest]

Ret pally sroar

[mild thunder]

exactly - this is what abilities like sroar allow, dynamic decision making with your resources

but people wanted it removed because REEEEE TOO MUCH

[lavish quest]

Well I'm saying it just made it more one dimensional. Because it would just be better to roar even if it's about to die

So the choice was roar or throw

Maybe at the end of a boss

But it's so minor who cares

[mild thunder]

and im saying if you're looking to autistically min-max there was more to it than only that, and it was a much-needed stopgap to bite

gave more intent to the timing of your rips and when to spend on what

tiger's fury uptime also disastrous rn

[lavish quest]

Is it high or low? Haven't played it since legion

And like the start of it

[mild thunder]

way too high

to the point that it's not really something you pay attention to like you should

there's no "damage amp" phase when the damage amp lasts long enough to re-refresh the damage amp

dumbs down your snapshotting a lot too

zzzzzzzz blizz needs to stop catering to retardds that shouldnt be playing anything other than fury or ret

[gaunt notch]

i hate having to enable warmode just to check the rewards for the pvp WQs to see if its bloody tokens or not

[spice hornet]

destro and demo are so broken

[lavish quest]

So they're the same difficulty then?

[mild thunder]

feral is way more dumbed down than id like

it's still a good spec, just not ideal

[dapper ore]

That damage is BONKERS

[lavish quest]

Doesn't let you jerk off to the difficulty like she used to?

[lavish quest]

Just DH things

[wheat jay]

That's m+, right?

[lavish quest]

Ye, was a +20 throne of the tides overall at the end

[wheat jay]

Id rather see dh and other melee broken in pve than augmentation

Also tot kinda scuffed cuz of small adds but ye

[lavish quest]

Would be scuffed for everyone. But DH go brrr

[dapper ore]

If any class could pull 300k + in single target I'd consider DH was the corruptions from BFA

[mild thunder]

you ok?

[wheat jay]

???

[lavish quest]

I should be asking you that

[wheat jay]

Huh

Galachad hasn't been okay since the start of the season

[mild thunder]

because i like a more complex playstyle? why does that hurt you lmao

[wheat jay]

All his toons suck ass

[mild thunder]

dh reroller, no one cares about your opinion

literal scum of the earth

[wheat jay]

Ye ye fursuit boy

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-shocked-cat-silly-cat-cat-kitten-gif-7414586676150300212

[lavish quest]

When did I say it hurt me? Can't make a joke about you just rubbing one off in here all the time?

[sharp meteor]

Rolling aug for a week did wonders for me. Not queuing for 4-5 months is bis.

[wheat jay]

Lol

[lavish quest]

I think my comment may have hurt you tho, ooooo

[wheat jay]

I hate aug as a spec

[sharp meteor]

I thought he played surv, not feral.

[wheat jay]

It should be reworked into another dps spec

[wheat jay]

That's the two specs he likes to play

[mild thunder]

im not hurt, just a weird ahh thing to say and makes you seem unreasonably assmad because i said i want feral to have a bit more depth...

[mild thunder]

i do

[lavish quest]

Should have been aborted

[wheat jay]

True

[mild thunder]

i play feral super, super casually and mostly in pve

[lavish quest]

I mean it's factoring in your history as well. And again, a joke.
"'Tis meme" as the kids say

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-from-cringe-meme-cringe-imagine-gif-23477312

[lavish quest]

Yes

[mild thunder]

what history lol

[lavish quest]

Your history of always gushing about the complexity of what you play. Busting loads left and right while you do so 🤣

[mild thunder]

you seem a little bit unhinged, but ye generally i prefer specs that have a bit more depth than 1212bladestorm1212

[dapper ore]

Did somebody say BLADESTORM???

[lavish quest]

And?

[mild thunder]

and what? idk, you're the one that started going on about people jackinggoff

[lavish quest]

I cracked a joke, you asked questions, I answered questions.

[spice hornet]

Wish the mods would come in here and lay some facts down and establish some order:
Arms is C tier
Survival is A tier
Galachad loves trolling noobs
Artji is a FOTM dh

[mild thunder]

real and true and based, i stan @spice hornet

r1 gigachad arms warrior (even though he's not r1 arms warr in 2s)

[spice hornet]

Where’s that one guy

Asking about the builds

Too funny

[mild thunder]

stat prio for arms? r1 answers only pls

make sure to write an essay to justify your answer pls n ty

[spice hornet]

Here’s how you know warriors bad. It’s called the Mud theory. If mud isn’t spam queueing 3s ladder on warrior, then it’s not good

Mud knows to keep his WL safe

[mild thunder]

mud washed fr fr

let's be real

[scarlet flame]

you know warrior sucks when mag mains dk and dh over warrior

[spice hornet]

^ another sign

[mild thunder]

i only watch real arms mains like seifcham

[spice hornet]

The guy is 600 shuffle rounds played v

?

[mild thunder]

you dont understand, he's just that good

if you were good you'd beat him and be r1 arms in 2s

but you cant

[spice hornet]

[scarlet flame]

im actually mag

[spice hornet]

If seif was on US he’d be the easiest warrior to roll up and smoke in a stormbolt

[scarlet flame]

https://check-pvp.fr/us/Zul'jin/Magnusz heres my proof

[mild thunder]

he bladestorms every bolt

you could never

[spice hornet]

Seif “600 rounds played” Cham is better than you

He is glad you are not

[mild thunder]

real

[proper hazel]

Sus just kiss already

[mild thunder]

i would be hardstuck 1800 if i queued a hard comp like ret/warr instead of sv jungle

[proper hazel]

All of u

[scarlet flame]

@limber relic bro how do you actually have 600 rounds played already

[spice hornet]

[mild thunder]

[scarlet flame]

?

how is that even possible

[spice hornet]

Autism

[scarlet flame]

its been like 2 weeks since the season started

[mild thunder]

addiction

[scarlet flame]

the bigger question is how have you lost 130 rating

[mild thunder]

who

[scarlet flame]

seif

2137 season high but hes 2008 cr

[spice hornet]

Zug brain

Why else

[wheat jay]

How is he 50% winrate only too

[scarlet flame]

hes in a shuffle right now

[spice hornet]

Please don’t talk shit on the r1 arms 2c2 @wheat jay

[wheat jay]

@limber relic where good winrate hello?

[mild thunder]

Please don’t talk shit on the r1 arms 2c2 @wheat jay

[wheat jay]

That's dogshit fam

[spice hornet]

Seif getting annihilated

[scarlet flame]

hes climbing back up

323 wins and 319 losses from 320 wins 319 losses

hes about to 6-0 this current shuff

[spice hornet]

I have like 100 rounds played on my 2nd warr and it’s like 2211

Trololol

[scarlet flame]

you might call me a champion

[mild thunder]

wait, is he even streaming rn

[scarlet flame]

hes offline

[mild thunder]

how you know he's in a shuff then

[scarlet flame]

his wins went up

from 1hr ago refresh

[mild thunder]

ah

[spice hornet]

Tbf I just did like 30 games of 3s at 1900-2k mmr and I saw 0 ret. Warrs. Lots of splay and boomy dh

[scarlet flame]

guy gets glad 2 times and now hes a multi-glad

[wheat jay]

Math checks out

[scarlet flame]

not even back to back glads

smh

[mild thunder]

dont ask what comp

dont ask

dont ask

dont ask

dont ask

[scarlet flame]

retr war in shadowlands and retwar in df

[sharp meteor]

Hmm. I think I know this pattern.

[scarlet flame]

some things never change

[mild thunder]

GUYS STFU

he's r1 warr in the WORLD in 2s

holy shit

[scarlet flame]

i think ill get glad with dh war this season

[mild thunder]

have some respect

[wheat jay]

@fickle forge SEE!?

[scarlet flame]

rate my lock binds

[wheat jay]

Embrace it

[mild thunder]

i shouldve finished my glad wins last season, i just got too tilted

[wheat jay]

I am your ticket to 3rd glad

[scarlet flame]

@fallen estuary im a lock player now

[lavish quest]

You don't have it already?

[fallen estuary]

always knwe it

[wheat jay]

I have one from shadowlands when we played kfc

[scarlet flame]

i named it after you

[fickle forge]

Tanda is also a weak beta

[scarlet flame]

you dont know me

i actually played a chad comp in my 3s matches on my warrior

[lavish quest]

I meant this season, you picked DH right? Isn't it a login reward?

[wheat jay]

Nah login reward is +30k to dps

[sharp meteor]

[scarlet flame]

hey stop that

how bad does this look for a whole 6 rounds of shuffle

[lavish quest]

Horrible because you picked lock

[mild thunder]

[scarlet flame]

all 3 lock specs are actually fun

[wheat jay]

To kill, yes

[lavish quest]

^

[mild thunder]

affi is fun

[scarlet flame]

i mean i main warrior so yeah

i kill locks

but they're also fun to play

[lavish quest]

Though I don't appreciate the armor buff

[lavish quest]

I won't sin like that

[scarlet flame]

im not good at juking yet

gotta practice more

[lavish quest]

Gottem bois

[scarlet flame]

ive never claimed to be good so not really

[fallen estuary]

SHEEEEEIIIIITTTTT

hes not good

who woulda knew

[dapper ore]

Is there a difference between changing your main and rerolling?

[scarlet flame]

aren't there only like 3 good players here

[fallen estuary]

me,me,and me

yea

[scarlet flame]

is mag in here

if not then only 2

[wheat jay]

Waiting for seif to catch up on how we slander him

[scarlet flame]

[wheat jay]

Kargish muddie magnusz and blizo iirc

Kargish my favourite arms player

[scarlet flame]

baj gets r1

[mild thunder]

kargish

does baj even play retail anymore

[scarlet flame]

no clue

blizo is prob my favorite guys a chad

even tho hes EU

[lavish quest]

Umm... no?

[mild thunder]

no

[hazy isle]

"people" still play wow pvp? we should talk about race realism again, it was more fun!

im seifcham btw, this is my alt

[mild thunder]

seifcham (r1 warrior in 2s in the world)
fox (r1 pet killer in the world)
artji (r1 dh)

[limber relic]

Who r u

[mild thunder]

he's here

[scarlet flame]

he finished that shuff

[mild thunder]

i saw one of the 4chan nazi guys in rogue cord the other day

[limber relic]

I mean i stream everyday and try to q solo while i do stuff 🤷‍♂️

[mild thunder]

he was talking bout how he got banned for "replying to politics stuff" in skyhold

[hazy isle]

Prob one of my alts, me SeifCham

[mild thunder]

based and true and real

[limber relic]

Not long @mild thunder was mocking my 5 avg viewers now we chilling @30-40 so im gucci

[spice hornet]

[mild thunder]

have i ever mocked your average viewers? 🤔

[limber relic]

Either u or someone else of ur minions

[mild thunder]

oh no, not one of the galatards

[lavish quest]

One of those furries?

[mild thunder]

idek how many of us there are anymore

[limber relic]

And yea i saw 2130 then got 2x dh lobbies

Fun

[spice hornet]

Galadabdaddy

[mild thunder]

@mild thunder @scarlet flame @spice hornet @wheat jay @jagged niche @violet fossil @idle falcon @kind sentinel @teal hedge @dreamy moat which one of you bullied seifcham's stream?

[scarlet flame]

i forget he exists until someone mentions him

[limber relic]

[spice hornet]

Definitely not me

[limber relic]

Not thag i care just funny. Couldve sworn it wss @mild thunder tho

🤷‍♂️

[teal hedge]

I'm inmocent

[mild thunder]

[spice hornet]

I would much rather watch seif over partywaffles

[mild thunder]

id rather watch seif than trillebartom (im still banned)

[limber relic]

Tell me someone that lives in your head rentfree without telling me

[scarlet flame]

can you finish a sentence one time or not

[teal hedge]

He's racist

[spice hornet]

Ever since I saw seifcham on booba .tv I’ve been hooked lol

[limber relic]

No

[fallen estuary]

lmao

[mild thunder]

[limber relic]

How did glad push go btw @mild thunder

[spice hornet]

[limber relic]

Orite

[spice hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-damn-damn-damn-damn-right-dame-time-gif-18029769

[mild thunder]

I should’ve finished wins man

[teal hedge]

No enemy arc

[mild thunder]

Who thinks Seifcham gonna play dh/arms this season

[lavish quest]

Sounds like I should be

[spice hornet]

I mean

It’s the only viable comp we have atm

[mild thunder]

i still might try and go for a double-glad on sv and feral

or i just main outlaw this ssn

[keen light]

Hey All, anyone recommend me some warrs streamers to watch and learn from? been watching TTV/SeifCham but he is always doing shuffle only

[mild thunder]

galakanade?

[keen light]

the gameplay is not good

[limber relic]

Didnt u drop to 2300 tho?

[mild thunder]

couldve climbed up and finished wins, just got too tilted

[limber relic]

Right ofc

[mild thunder]

only needed 10 more or something

obv not like i just couldnt get it

[limber relic]

Right ofc. Couldve easily climbed back up last 1 day

[kind sentinel]

sorry gamer, i only watch bathtub streams on twitch

[mild thunder]

had several days, just didnt bother

[limber relic]

2*

Sry

[mild thunder]

dont think so

[spice hornet]

[limber relic]

That last day of the season grind huh?

Rip

[mild thunder]

are you legit checking my check-pvp everyday?

[spice hornet]

i am

[limber relic]

Na, checked once when i asked u in this disc

[mild thunder]

idk, seems like you're checking it every day lmao

[limber relic]

Whatever makes u sleep at night

If thats what u fantasize about

Go ahead

[mild thunder]

watching your stream puts me to sleep

[kind sentinel]

do we need to assemble the Gala-council for the first time

[limber relic]

Yeah today was a lullyby. Afk duro was not fun

[mild thunder]

mashallah, the counsel convenes

[spice hornet]

who would win in a duel

seifcham or galachad

[limber relic]

Gl on next glad tho. Mby this time u get it last day of the season