or DH still doing insane damage without thinking
#pvp
scarlet flame
mild thunder
through blur
mild thunder
or DH still doing insane damage without thinking
like arms 
scarlet flame
kinda but more yeah
mild thunder
at least dh is killable
scarlet flame
i might boost a dh
mild thunder
super killable
scarlet flame
they are not lol
mild thunder
did for me 
scarlet flame
mild thunder
actually it was a 5s stun but still
mild thunder
because priest has tons of damage reduction and mitigation passives
hunter has 1 wall on a 3min CD
mild thunder
idk i dont play priest
but if it's disc they have damage reduc on absorbs and stuff iirc
hpri has some too
spri idk
TL;DR buff sv and feral pls n ty
feral is bad
need buffs
scarlet flame
feral is bad
which one is you
also bro some ele sham was running this lightning bolt build and he was bursting so hard even without that crit totem
mild thunder
which one is you
nocturnal, obviously 
scarlet flame
i thought you were surv
scarlet flame
which one do you like more
mild thunder
i legit love both, but i prefer playing sv in jungle
scarlet flame
i dont really wana heal anymore on my druid was thinking of making it a boomkin
but feral could be fun
mild thunder
survival feels more like jazz, feral is jazz with death metal undertones
you can be a chess-master outplaying people... or you can delete them with 250k bites
mild thunder
rogue is probs a good choice
3 broken specs
but if you think warrior mobility feels bad, you wont enjoy assa
1 root and it's so joever
scarlet flame
i dont think warrior mobility is bad and i dont think ive ever said it was bad, i just think people who are good at kiting make the game unfun to play
and that you can easily kite a warrior with 3 people kiting for you
that being said
mild thunder
yea im not saying personally "you", just a general "you"
scarlet flame
ahh yeah
some people are regarded tho
and that being said
ive been plyaing with a resto sham in 2x
and this guys actually cracked
i honestly believe its been my teammates making me believe its easy to kite me cause this guy just
he completes me
mild thunder
sub has an extra sstep and extra vanish, outlaw has shorter CDs, extra movespeed and grappling hook... assa has neither so it has a lot of downtime into ranged specs
mild thunder
he completes me
your other heals probs just doesnt have dispel bound lmao
scarlet flame
i mean hes static toteming people to me its like a different game
i can't lie about it
hes doing more damage than disc priests too
mild thunder
i suck at kiting people
spice hornet
you'd think @mild thunder wouldn't have any advice cuz how could he have time to play when hes shit posting on here all day and arguing with regards in here
mild thunder
scarlet flame
i play 4 weeks of a season then quit
mild thunder
tbf i didnt play last week, today is my first day of the actual season playing
mild thunder
very high
too high
bite does too much, i dont like it... nerf bite, buff bleeds pls
scarlet flame
war kinda slot machine for me
mild thunder
nerf bite, buff bleeds, buff self-heals
scarlet flame
sometimes they die from 40% sometimes they sit at 10% for 6 executes
mild thunder
i typhooned a warr off the ledge, stunned him at 30% out of LoS, he trinketed and oneshot me from 60% with lucky ahh crits 
scarlet flame
yeah i dont think i like that too much
mild thunder
tbf it was kind of a misplay by my healer and i... i jumped down to stun warr, he ran to cc the healer because he thought i'd be fine and in the time my healer LoS'd me the warr killed me 
lucid walrus
yeah but that damage mit is insane then
focused will
scarlet flame
focused will
whats it do
lucid walrus
it stacked up to 30% at least for holy in SL. just a passive wall whenever you put a hand on them
i'm unsure what else they have but this is what makes it feel like you just chip them
teal hedge
Having played other classes and now playing PVE, I have now realised what a pea-brain I must have had to not have instantly understood how to play arms in pvp when I first started
scarlet flame
you can't even type in english bud
mild thunder
Having played other classes and now playing PVE, I have now realised what a pea-...
pretty sure this is a typical arms main experience
teal hedge
you can't even type in english bud
Is my tempus fucked up or something?
mild thunder
thinks arms is complex
plays other spec
realises arms is regarded and braindead
mild thunder
bro is not beating the ESL allegations 
teal hedge
Mein gott
scarlet flame
bro isn't beating the regarded online terrorist allegations either
teal hedge
My worst work yet
mild thunder
she bezos on my jeff and it feels amazon
teal hedge
she bezos on my jeff and it feels amazon
hell yeah
Dudes will read this and think
hell yes
rotund trellis
how's this even in game
scarlet flame
i mean its not that bad anymore tbh
teal hedge
Yeah no, I ran some healer games and dh sure does plenty of damage
scarlet flame
like 3% damage nerf and i think its okay
rotund trellis
it's a single fucking button
mild thunder
Yeah no, I ran some healer games and dh sure does plenty of damage
it does, but it always does
it's a squishy mongo spec
teal hedge
so happen?
mild thunder
they do damage but they die
spice hornet
i typhooned a warr off the ledge, stunned him at 30% out of LoS, he trinketed an...
I still encountered a lot of dhs today and they were #1 Dam each game
teal hedge
it's a squishy mongo spec
Do. Not. Disrespect. The Khan....
spice hornet
Lots of dh boony comps
mild thunder
I still encountered a lot of dhs today and they were #1 Dam each game
i versed 1 dh in 2s and i deleted him in 5 seconds so clearly it's F tier
teal hedge
Genghis Khan first arms main on the planet
spice hornet
i versed 1 dh in 2s and i deleted him in 5 seconds so clearly it's F tier
2s
🚮
spice hornet
Yeah I think the dhs at 1300 are built diff
spice hornet
im gonna get r1 feral druid in 2s <:clueless:1099922541923024997>
Won’t count unless you’re on eu
teal hedge
Are disc and resto-druids still the top specs in 2s?
spice hornet
It’s the only two healers you will encounter
teal hedge
Damn.
teal hedge
I guess it does make sense considering rdruid has a lot of micro-cc and some damage
teal hedge
And disc is just in a really good spot rn
rotund trellis
this DH never played pvp in his life, gets to 1900
teal hedge
He's just like me for real
rotund trellis
blizzard helloooooooo!?
mild thunder
i thought you were 1600xp?
teal hedge
Nah I hit 1900
scarlet flame
prove it
mild thunder
gigachad
scarlet flame
1900 ss bet
teal hedge
Argaskurken-ravencrest
mild thunder
bro wtf
spice hornet
this DH never played pvp in his life, gets to 1900
He got really goood this season
scarlet flame
what kind of stupid ass name is that
spice hornet
It finally all clicked for him
mild thunder
least deranged swedish name
stark gulch
Ripperonis
teal hedge
Slightly lower than 1,9k
scarlet flame
1836 in what
teal hedge
ss
stark gulch
May as well leave they’re gonna skewer ya now
scarlet flame
teal hedge
I mean, I got da skin I got da mount
scarlet flame
what mount
scarlet flame
the mount is only wins above like 1k rating bro
teal hedge
Oh yeah
I don't have the glad dragon
Sadly
Tanda you gotta follow the golden mean
scarlet flame
what
teal hedge
You know buddha?
scarlet flame
no im not a religious loser
rotund trellis
btw it's a f teleport fiesta on ladder
scarlet flame
im getting famous
teal hedge
Rookie numbers
scarlet flame
the only people checking me are the madge 2k rdruids i put in the dirt today
teal hedge
Madge?
scarlet flame
its a frog emote
teal hedge
Okay?
scarlet flame
why did you say okay like it was a question lmfao
scarlet flame
that frog emote is almost older than you are champ, you aren't the one who gets to act like that
mild thunder
im getting famous
idek your name
scarlet flame
idek your name
thats okay
mild thunder
teal hedge
Chud knows my name
scarlet flame
no one wants to know your name, you just yell it out loud
teal hedge
And soon you will too
scarlet flame
nah im bad with names ill forget in 2 minutes
mild thunder
i just meant your character name kekw
teal hedge
I see right through you, Daniel
mild thunder
90% of these are seifcham
scarlet flame
mild thunder
my warrior is blessed fr
teal hedge
Swede mentioned 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🐻🐻🐻
scarlet flame
just rotting fish
mild thunder
rotten fish
teal hedge
Pair that up with some sourcream, potatoes, red onion and shove that shit in a wrap and you're golden
river walrus
scarlet flame
i hate mastery now
scarlet flame
there is no haste conq weapon
idk
teal hedge
Tanda, you eat guts where you're from?
mild thunder
there never has been before
scarlet flame
Tanda, you eat guts where you're from?
fuck no
mild thunder
Tanda, you eat guts where you're from?
im putting a request in to the hospital to eat your guts after they're removed
mild thunder
keep your friends close
teal hedge
I've been sustaining myself on liver paste past few weeks
mild thunder
i live in usa
liver king???
scarlet flame
if you eat raw meat you deserve to die
teal hedge
if you eat raw meat you deserve to die
How raw are we talking?
scarlet flame
raw
teal hedge
Like rare steaks?
teal hedge
dip shit
fallen solar
Why are there so many galas speaking
mild thunder
rare isn't raw dip shit
some people think it is
scarlet flame
some people think it is
thats cool, if its raw its not cooked
teal hedge
I personally think raw can be a little unpleasant
*sorry, rare
I prefer medium rare
mild thunder
depends on the cut
scarlet flame
no one asked
mild thunder
rare filet is fine
teal hedge
God damn you tanda
mild thunder
rare ribeye is weird
scarlet flame
good thing none of those are real
mild thunder
teal hedge
Honestly? You know what beats any steak?
mild thunder
how fungus feels irl
mild thunder
Honestly? You know what beats any steak?
fish
teal hedge
Barramundi?
mild thunder
it's a white-fleshed fish
mild thunder
similar ig
bit more delicate
when i was still working in a kitchen during covid we got to take home some prime barramundi fillets that were gonna go bad... spent hours making that shii perfect
teal hedge
You love to see it
My family and friends do not care for my cooking
Neither do I tbh
But I have made attempts at teriyaki-salmon
mild thunder
i like cooking but i hate cooking
teal hedge
Pretty sure I've sent my slop here earlier
teal hedge
Had this real nasty phase where I just gunned straight for nutrients
I would eat canned tuna accompanied by chocolate pudding
mild thunder
teal hedge
Dude listen
spice hornet
Sous vide my prime ribeyes and then sear and butter baste 🥜
scarlet flame
shut up bro
teal hedge
70 grammes of protein in like 15 minutes
mild thunder
Sous vide my prime ribeyes and then sear and butter baste 🥜
🤓
mild thunder
have you tried reverse searing @spice hornet ?
teal hedge
I gotta ask, how does one get into cooking? Considering I am anchored to my house I'm thinking it's a good thing to learn
Would make parents happy as well
mild thunder
I gotta ask, how does one get into cooking? Considering I am anchored to my hous...
get a job in a restaurant, that's how i did
rotund trellis
ah rogues are broken too, lol
teal hedge
get a job in a restaurant, that's how i did <:keks:936231610850897992>
True and real
Gonna book it for a job with cooking as soon as they get me done
16th of january baybee
mild thunder
it's a fun first job
i worked in an italian restaurant with all nepali cooks, an arabic head-chef and asian waitstaff
mild thunder
@ mod
teal hedge
I just gotta speak my truth
mild thunder
italian food is the backbone of international cuisine
teal hedge
I truly believe Germanic / Czech food wins over Italian
scarlet flame
well heres the thing angus
if a majority of people disagree with you, chances are you're wrong
mild thunder
korean food is great
spice hornet
I truly believe Germanic / Czech food wins over Italian
german food is not great
teal hedge
Never had it
scarlet flame
i dont think the majority of people think eating pig intestine is good
mild thunder
korean and viet are the kings of asian cuisine
teal hedge
I had viet chicken for 6 dollars in Prague
spice hornet
isnt aussieland a chinese territory now?
teal hedge
50/50 it was either that or McDonalds in Prague that gave me the most violent food poisoning of my entire life
thick reef
i dont think the majority of people think eating pig intestine is good
Mear is not inherently unhealthy
teal hedge
I'm betting it was the maccys
mild thunder
maccas*
scarlet flame
Mear is not inherently unhealthy
no one cares about it being unhealthy
teal hedge
Donken
scarlet flame
shit tastes like shit
mild thunder
suck my donken
mild thunder
maccas = the maccas
ausland really is the greatest country on earth
@spice hornet just jealous
thick reef
shit tastes like shit
Ah ok, I like pork personally
teal hedge
Adding -en or -et to the end of a noun puts it into definite form
teal hedge
Ah ok, I like pork personally
You and I get it
scarlet flame
yeah no ones talking about actual good cuts of pork
you EU weirdos eating their livers and gal bladders
spice hornet
i love maccas
teal hedge
Even the bad cuts are nice, just put them in hearty sausage
spice hornet
i loved the food in spain
teal hedge
Liver is super-healthy for you though
spice hornet
mmmm
teal hedge
Spain had some cool food
mild thunder
i loved the food in spain
i thought you werent allowed out of the US after being declared a flight-risk?
teal hedge
Isn't liver regarded as some high-society shit in several countries?
scarlet flame
probably not
scarlet flame
sometimes
teal hedge
What about crayfish?
scarlet flame
never had
thick reef
you EU weirdos eating their livers and gal bladders
Sausage is tasty. Love liver sausage, but I'm on a diet for a few weeks now to lose a bit of fat I built, so I don't eat it anymore
scarlet flame
the opportunity never arose
mild thunder
lobster is overrated
spice hornet
sea roaches
mild thunder
it's not bad, but it's not worth the price
spice hornet
peruvian food is bussin...
mild thunder
peruvian food is bussin...
what about them american classics? cheeseborgers, hot dogs, donuts
spice hornet
so fire..
teal hedge
Not a lot of people in Sweden
spice hornet
what about them american classics? cheeseborgers, hot dogs, donuts
mad you don't have those? better than fairybread
and vegemite
teal hedge
Soul food......
spice hornet
fairy bread
aussies thinkin they cooked somethin
literal white bread
room temp butter
and sprinkles
mild thunder
teal hedge
You guys seen tasteatlas' top 50 cuisines?
mild thunder
bro it's good
teal hedge
Oh sorry, top 95
AND THEY PUT NORWAY IN SPOT NUMBER 95
EAT SHIT
Best food is supposedly Italian
teal hedge
What australian dishes are there?
spice hornet
ngl no cap, ethopian food is fire
teal hedge
Superwog food
Oh my god... fairy bread
Galachad I am going to become racist towards you for this
spice hornet
yeah isnt it fucking stupid
mild thunder
bro fairybread is goated
spice hornet
they call that food
mild thunder
you eat rotten fish
spice hornet
surstromming?
teal hedge
Rotten fish has flavour
mild thunder
ye
teal hedge
Love rotten fish
scarlet flame
yeah bad flavor
mild thunder
fairybread has sugar
spice hornet
lol i tried to find it when i went to sweden
most places dont even sell it
some northern swden shit
teal hedge
yeah bad flavor
^still eats baby food
mild thunder
you literally eat rotten fish
thick reef
Aren't you a bit worried about parasites
spice hornet
swedish meatballs
teal hedge
some northern swden shit
Yeah, the further north you go, the more guts and rotten fish you find
thick reef
With rotten fish
spice hornet
lingonberries
scarlet flame
Yeah, the further north you go, the more guts and rotten fish you find
bro its not the 900 BCs
spice hornet
do you eat that salty licorice?
teal hedge
No idea why it isn't more present in other countries
scarlet flame
the further north you go the exact same as it is in the south
teal hedge
Sometimes, yeah
scarlet flame
you have grocery stores
spice hornet
swedes have this salty licorice thats literally like you ate a handful of salt
mild thunder
chinese cuisine
also indian
teal hedge
Djungelvrål
teal hedge
bro its not the 900 BCs
No but this is actually true
mild thunder
90% of the restaurants around my apartment are asian
teal hedge
We eat more fishes down here in the southwest
mild thunder
pretty sure there's 4 kbbq places within a 5 minute walk of me
teal hedge
Whilst the northeast eats more of a dish called "pölsa"
scarlet flame
No but this is actually true
no its not
teal hedge
Which is just anything from bone marrow to other organs just minced
scarlet flame
eating fresh fish and eating rotten shit no one actually eats anymore are two different things
teal hedge
Served with potatoes and pickled beets
No but we have different traditions in different parts of the country no?
scarlet flame
what do you know about traditions you're not even 20 yet
teal hedge
I have been to the north of Sweden
scarlet flame
you get all your information from tiktok
teal hedge
What
spice hornet
I had this paella in Valencia Spain
teal hedge
The guys and I drove up
mild thunder
Imagine using tiktok
teal hedge
I had this paella in Valencia Spain
So good
teal hedge
You do a lot of travelling, don't you?
teal hedge
the guys and you drove up and some dude lied to you about eating rotten fish
We actually mostly drank
That and we walked a little
Very eventful trip
scarlet flame
right awakened your sexuality with the boys
rotund trellis
teal hedge
The guys from the north are coming down to my town this winter
rotund trellis
spice hornet
Work related?
some of it was
rotund trellis
how TF in the world is this pvp ladder
scarlet flame
just beat up his healer
teal hedge
I gotta respect it, I wish I could travel as much
Actually, I'm gonna go to germany in like, 6 days?
rotund trellis
just beat up his healer
dude I tried
mild thunder
some of it was
No shot you’re old enough to have a legitimate career, I’m convinced you’re 13
Muds age
spice hornet
teal hedge
Didn't he have a game of thrones pfp?
scarlet flame
the only way you win vs DH is kill his healer first
spice hornet
i go to the same middle school as mud
teal hedge
Certified 35-year-old
spice hornet
hes in the special classes tho
mild thunder
Mud gonna be repeating junior year forever
spice hornet
if he gets that far
scarlet flame
eventually you can just leave
teal hedge
Too busy eating crayons
rotund trellis
I sertiousle do not know what to do in these games. when there is a DH, it's a L 99% of the times
scarlet flame
I sertiousle do not know what to do in these games. when there is a DH, it's a L...
you have to kill his healer first
teal hedge
Aint no way blood is defending eating crayons
spice hornet
I sertiousle do not know what to do in these games. when there is a DH, it's a L...
kill healer
or try to kill when blur is on cd
mild thunder
I sertiousle do not know what to do in these games. when there is a DH, it's a L...
Don’t kill healer
mild thunder
spice hornet
esp if the healer is disc
scarlet flame
and use your disruption on the DH if your healer is getting cucked
make the ape sit a full fear every 1.3m
teal hedge
Have they buffed dh survivability since S1?
mild thunder
Nerfed
mild thunder
dh is pretty squishy
scarlet flame
you probably aren't killing one in 1 SB window, and if their healer is free casting you probably aren't killing the DH
at least from my exp so far
i have almost killed them with aoe cleave cause healer is dumb
teal hedge
Seems reasonable enough
mild thunder
if you're bad maybe
spice hornet
gala thinks arms is immortal for some reason
mild thunder
parry is a melee immune
scarlet flame
parry is 30% wall
mild thunder
but he hasnt queued
i queued today
spice hornet
he hasnt played arms into boomy/dh, mage/lock, boomy/lock, splay
mild thunder
parry is 30% wall
it's also a melee immune
scarlet flame
it's also a melee immune
wild cause they still literally kill me through it
mild thunder
he hasnt played arms into boomy/dh, mage/lock, boomy/lock, splay
sounds like a skill issue
mild thunder
wild cause they still literally kill me through it
you problem
scarlet flame
i use wall and my hp still goes down
teal hedge
Heroic leap away
scarlet flame
healer not in CC, free casting with wall up
teal hedge
Exhaust all your cds
scarlet flame
still dying like i never pressed it
rotund trellis
lost 50 ranks tonight with a positive winrate to take a friend to 1600
yay my life
scarlet flame
they use blur and take 0 damage for 10 seconds
mild thunder
arms mains convinced they're victims 
scarlet flame
good for you no one asked
mild thunder
scarlet flame
mild thunder
it was probs like 1800ish mmr tbf because my healer was already high
teal hedge
Chimp, hop on EU and make a DH
teal hedge
We'll be the change the world needs
mild thunder
im too tired
scarlet flame
dh just needs like 3-5% damage nerf and they prob super balanced imo
rotund trellis
dh just needs like 3-5% damage nerf and they prob super balanced imo
make it 8-10 and ok
scarlet flame
you're lost
mild thunder
arms just needs a bladestorm and IP nerf and safeguard removed and they're prob super balanced imo
teal hedge
Ah
scarlet flame
8-10% kills the class bro
teal hedge
I know healers are pests
scarlet flame
10
teal hedge
But the dps specs seem pretty fair?
scarlet flame
10% damage nerf on a class that is basically only damage is not how you balance lol
scarlet flame
arms just needs a bladestorm and IP nerf and safeguard removed and they're prob ...
nah warrior in good spot
mild thunder
teal hedge
We should give DH the 10.0.7 treatment
mild thunder
bladestorms half the game
"warrior is in a good spot"
scarlet flame
mages killing you in 2 globals, boomkins existing, demo and destro being a thing
mild thunder
frfr
scarlet flame
"warriors the problem"
mild thunder
mages killing you in 2 globals, boomkins existing, demo and destro being a thing
then nerf some of those specs too lmao
scarlet flame
BM still doing insane damage with npc ai targeting
mild thunder
you do realise multiple thigns can need nerfs at the same time, right?
teal hedge
I think I can conclude what pvp needs
mild thunder
just dispel explosive and surv does no damage
teal hedge
Just simple as
scarlet flame
im literally dying to random shit from surv you can't even tell what they're doing
guys half way across the map and im still dying from the "melee hunter"
teal hedge
Can't you reflect traps from surv?
scarlet flame
you can reflect ice trap
mild thunder
yea ngl warr has nothing to complain about into sv... you counter almost everything they want to do, esp in 3s
scarlet flame
im not complaining about them im just saying warrior is by far in a better spot than almost every other class rn
all 3 rogue specs
mild thunder
legitimately
scarlet flame
like just look at what other classes are doing and then look at war, idk how you can think they need any sort of changes
mild thunder
genuinely
im not tryna be funny
do you not think you might be a lil biased?
"every spec is op except mine"
mild thunder
but every other spec is better
scarlet flame
i think theres a bunch of other specs that are miles ahead of it
teal hedge
I mean, do you lose consistantly queing into certain comps?
mild thunder
do you think arms bladestorm uptime is fine?
teal hedge
Or do the games just feel bad?
scarlet flame
all 3 rogue specs are no contest better, unholy dk is better, boomkin is better, demo desto are better
reduce its duration idgaf
mild thunder
reduce its duration idgaf
it's the CD that's the issue
teal hedge
Did they buff unholy?
mild thunder
reducing the duration doesnt really change much
scarlet flame
then remove roots and perma slows
mild thunder
no?
scarlet flame
make avatar immune to roots and slows for duration
teal hedge
Roots is 99% of the survival ranged classes have
mild thunder
make avatar immune to roots and slows for duration
mild thunder
blud wants 20s of root immunity
scarlet flame
blud wants 20s of root immunity
yeah thats a meme
if you want to reduce arms uptime, rework its damage to not require uptime
my opinion
mild thunder
make avatar immune to roots and slows for duration
@wheat jay these arms mains arent real
scarlet flame
yeah thats a meme <:keks:936231610850897992>
.
mild thunder
if you want to reduce arms uptime, rework its damage to not require uptime
all melee damage requires uptime
scarlet flame
all melee damage requires uptime
dk ret are ranged classes
teal hedge
You people think blizzard is ever going to merge NA and EU?
mild thunder
dk is not a ranged class, they do like ~30% of their damage from range and lose tons of mobility
ww requires as much uptime as arms
if not more
teal hedge
WW feels like a very fair spec atm
scarlet flame
2 40 yard grips
teal hedge
Problem lies within the healers imo, too much micro cc
scarlet flame
ams = immune to magic CC
teal hedge
Having druids just either clone you or stun just feels bad
scarlet flame
ww requires as much uptime as arms
yeah it does, also i've seen some bok hit for 100ks recently
scarlet flame
pretty close tbh
rsk hitting almost 300k i hit some moron for 278k in 3s yesterday
mild thunder
overpower hit 100k in season 1 lol
scarlet flame
yeah and its damage is basically the same now
mild thunder
rsk hitting almost 300k i hit some moron for 278k in 3s yesterday
as much as ms then
scarlet flame
scarlet flame
as much as ms then
never hit close to 278k MS
and i was running 42% mastery too
255 is the hignest i've seen from like 70 hours of pvp in this season mostly running higher mastery
had a dh hit me for a 298k death sweep tho
fossil mortar
Power of magic dam, just hits different
scarlet flame
you know what they do need to fix about bladestorm
the delay on when you can use it in a stun
i have immuned some stuns i really shouldn't have
mild thunder
you know what they do need to fix about bladestorm
nerf the CD and remove the second charge
scarlet flame
no
mild thunder
yes
scarlet flame
no
mild thunder
spamming a 6s cc immune every 30 seconds isnt skillful
scarlet flame
its 1.5m CD
scarlet flame
also having root break on avatar be tied to BS makes one or the other a moot point
i dont run SoD pretty much ever
mild thunder
also having root break on avatar be tied to BS makes one or the other a moot poi...
no it just gives you a 6s cc immune on avatar OFF-GCD lol
there's legit no way people can defend current bladestorm as an okay ability
scarlet flame
that can still be griped static totemed druid vortexed
mild thunder
that can still be griped static totemed druid vortexed
2 abilities on 2 classes
scarlet flame
im pretty sure that shitty warlock talent that moves you teleports you to
mild thunder
that arent even that bad
scarlet flame
3 abilities 3 classes
mild thunder
im pretty sure that shitty warlock talent that moves you teleports you to
another thing no one plays in arena
scarlet flame
yeah thats why i added it after cause its shit
fossil mortar
scarlet flame
and if you're playing vs dh caster going after the caster
mild thunder
literally no other class has cc immunity like arms and if they did you'd cry so hard
scarlet flame
reflect
mild thunder
it's so easy
mild thunder
that's not even true
scarlet flame
yes it is
mild thunder
if you cant reflect grip, that's a legit skill issue
scarlet flame
it reflects 1 spell
mild thunder
it's the most obvious ability in the game
mild thunder
it reflects 1 spell
also not true, reflect behaviour weird af
fossil mortar
scarlet flame
well every time i time reflect on the last .2 seconds of a cast it never actually reflects that glacial spike or chaos bolt
it seems to always reflect a dot
mild thunder
skill issue frr
mild thunder
i never have that issue on arms
scarlet flame
sure
mild thunder
fr tho reflecting grips is so easy
scarlet flame
i bet
shy hinge
Delay in connection etc maybe
scarlet flame
idk what fote is
mild thunder
Delay in connection etc maybe
yea, i play with more ping than anyone here
bladestorm should be a flat 90s CD with one charge and should last 3s, buff the damage to compensate
fossil mortar
If I got a penny every time my reflect gets consumed by a proc, I would have a dollar
scarlet flame
nah
mild thunder
nah
if literally any other dps spec got 3s of cc immunity every 90s you would complain straightaway
bladestorm should be a skill-expression ability
scarlet flame
if literally any other dps spec got 3s of cc immunity every 90s you would compla...
you're making up thoughts in your head to be mad about
marble bone
scarlet flame
so you're just making things up in your head to be mad about
mild thunder
and i see the future where it happens
scarlet flame
if it was a melee other than rogue i wouldn't care tbh
give monk some CC immune shit with they fof
scarlet flame
give feral cc immune on some shit idc
scarlet flame
right to you its not skillful
mild thunder
spamming cc immunity in pvp is not fun
scarlet flame
you hate cc immunity because you spam CC
mild thunder
right to you its not skillful
because it's not ... having endless anti-cc abilities isnt fun lmao
scarlet flame
sitting through 30 CC's isn't fun
so eat my shit
ill bladestorm through it
might as well take away axe toss from locks
that shits broken af
mild thunder
you hate cc immunity because you spam CC
DF has already been all anti-setup meta anyway lol
what comps are spam-cc'ing you in 3s?
aug/x wasnt
ret/warr wasnt
splay wasnt
mm cupid wasnt
there are no meta setup comps
scarlet flame
if they aren't spamming CC
then CC immunity doesn't matter
it seems like it only mattered to your comps
mild thunder
or those comps were all strong because of their insane anti-setup?
scarlet flame
and you big mad about it
mild thunder
it seems like it only mattered to your comps
it matters to the game as a whole - moving pvp constantly away from coordination and setup is cringe and bad for the game imo
if you wanna pve w key do your rotation, go do some keys
fossil mortar
scarlet flame
idk lotta games ive seen and been apart of are lost cause of bad CC
mild thunder
arent you a shuffle main?
scarlet flame
hear a lot of streamers cry about people fucking up DRs
i have 1 round of shuffel played so far
mild thunder
hear a lot of streamers cry about people fucking up DRs
idk why you think this is a point
people can still fuck up DRs in a meta where cc matters less
scarlet flame
idk why you think this is a point
i think its a point because people who just throw CC around for no reason doesn't matter
brazen pewter
Tbh warrior is one on most common classes that ruins DR at solo… probably second to DH
scarlet flame
just throwing SB on CD does literally nothing
people who clone a target you're about to kill for no reason and you lose the game off it
paladins who blind off AFF lock dots
acting like CC is meaningless is ignorant
mild thunder
that's not fucking up DRs, that's just trolling your team
mild thunder
did i say cc is meaningless? i said "moving pvp constantly away from coordination and setup is cringe and bad for the game imo"
verbatim
scarlet flame
throwing out strang on a target with zero pressure generated does noting
scarlet flame
did i say cc is meaningless? i said "moving pvp constantly away from coordinatio...
and they aren't
brazen pewter
Sub rogue - most difficult spec in solo ever
mild thunder
they arent?
scarlet flame
because setup and coordiation still matters
brazen pewter
Everybody ruins DR
mild thunder
yup and people still not dying outside of CC or damp
this straightup not true lmao
scarlet flame
this straightup not true lmao
yeah get cheesed because you didn't press in the opener
mild thunder
i play jungle and even we kill outside CC
scarlet flame
you got some crazy burst then
mild thunder
nope, kills just happen outside cc all the time now
scarlet flame
cause i haven't actually died outside of CC or damp since s1
mild thunder
it's not SL anymore, you dont only kill in stuns (unless you're sub)
mild thunder
cause i haven't actually died outside of CC or damp since s1
because you play arms, the spec that literally doesnt die outside of stuns lmao
scarlet flame
or you know i actually just dont pay attention to my health and stand still like a target dummy
my monk dk shaman or druid dont either
you act like im just talking about my warrior
mild thunder
imma also go out on a limb and say it's straightup not true lol
you've 110% died outside cc multiple times
and you're either capping or dont remember
scarlet flame
if you stand still like a target dummy it doesn't count
if you're not stunned or CC'd and you straight up die to CDS thats your own fault for being a moron
mild thunder
you dont even need CDs to kill anymore lol
mild thunder
since s2 DF has been a heavy consistent damage fest lol
scarlet flame
cause i haven't actually died outside of CC or damp since s1
cc or damp
mild thunder
hence the sustained damage comps like ret/warr, aug, splay etc.
scarlet flame
damp just forces 1 side to lose
mild thunder
what does damp mean to you? because most 3s games were 3mins+ end of last season, probably a lot longer for other people
because again
that was the whole meta
very, very, very few games were sub 2 minutes
scarlet flame
bet you those guys who lost were in a CC with no trinket and not with all their cds up to stop it
scarlet flame
that cc matters and setup and coordination matter and you pretending like its not even an aspect of pvp or that they're moving the game away from it is false
mild thunder
they are moving the game away from it
again
the 90s trinket change and the cc nerfs in 10.1 show that
scarlet flame
yeah i dont agree with the healer trinket change
but cc and coordination are still important
brazen pewter
Healer trinket change is very dumb
mild thunder
cc and coordination matter, but they're not the driving force of pvp anymore and havent been for most of DF
scarlet flame
when have they ever been the driving force of pvp
mild thunder
it's moved away from that to consistent damage, longer damp pve fest games
scarlet flame
ladder pvp is playing the most broken damage comps every season
brazen pewter
The real problem of healer population is not going to change with short trinket cd
scarlet flame
or unkillable garbage comps
scarlet flame
it's moved away from that to consistent damage, longer damp pve fest games
what season was mld just better than everything else because you coudln't kill it
mild thunder
ladder pvp is playing the most broken damage comps every season
yea but those comps tend to be more or less cc-oriented depending on how impactful cc is in a given meta, like late SL when the meta was all jungle and rmp
urban skiff
https://youtu.be/NAs7TWjFcbM
Supatease getting the full warrior experience
scarlet flame
yea but those comps tend to be more or less cc-oriented depending on how impactf...
i can promise you rn if the best comp in the game 100% w/l required setup and cc it would be the most popular comp
it doesn't matter what the style is if it wins games its goign to be played
scarlet flame
how many seasons has it been that CC dominated the meta comps
scarlet flame
and mainly because of how op a spec is
why are warlocks good
because they have good CC and damage
why are rogues good
because they have good CC and damage
why are mages good, because they have good CC and damage
mild thunder
how many seasons has it been that CC dominated the meta comps
cc should dominate, that's what makes pvp fun and skillful, not just hardcore spamming bladestorm, grounding totem, banner and sanc while the jungle tryhards to land a 5sec trap that barely does anything
scarlet flame
cc should dominate, that's what makes pvp fun and skillful, not just hardcore sp...
thats what makes it fun and skillful to you
specifically
fossil mortar
I like to bonk ppl, then I win, make me feel good
scarlet flame
and because your comp sucks to whatever you want it changed so the comp you play is strong
mild thunder
yea because i think if you wanna spam W and do your rotation, you should raid or do some keys
scarlet flame
and i think if you want to just afk pve target dummies you should sit in valdraken and do it
mild thunder
and because your comp sucks to whatever you want it changed so the comp you play...
idgaf about jungle being meta, but having cc be more rewarded would be cool, yea
scarlet flame
idgaf about jungle being meta, but having cc be more rewarded would be cool, yea
so 1 class having good mitigation into CC immunity is bad
but you want to keep its idtentiy as whatever
mild thunder
so 1 class having good mitigation into CC immunity is bad
what
fallen solar
Y’all know affliction more tanky than arms right
scarlet flame
sorry im tired those words were jumbled
so warrior having its idtentiy being good into CC is bad
mild thunder
i legit dont know what you're talking about
scarlet flame
but you wanted to keep its tanky support garbage identity from before because you like it
mild thunder
so warrior having its idtentiy being good into CC is bad
nope, but i think right now it's a bit too strong and should have bladestorm nerfed
mild thunder
and safeguard
scarlet flame
so you want to remove its identity of having good CC mit
mild thunder
that's not its identity, bladestorm has only been this strong for the latter part of DF
scarlet flame
bladestorm has always been strong because of its CC immunity
mild thunder
having some cc immunity is fine and can be a form of skill-expression
right now it isnt
scarlet flame
the 5 seconds of actual BS and the 3 seconds of avatar BS is too much
mild thunder
bladestorm has always been strong because of its CC immunity
bladestorm has never had uptime like it does right now tho
scarlet flame
even tho its on a 90s CD for BS and longer for avatar
mild thunder
it's not on a 90s CD tho
scarlet flame
60s CD
mild thunder
60s without SoD
scarlet flame
no one runs SoD
mild thunder
BC sharpen and safeguard are all better
depending on the comp, SoD is absolutely better than BC
you can abuse the fuck out of it into stuff like druid
mild thunder
no i meant battlefield
scarlet flame
idk that gives you a lot more than sod does
mild thunder
spamming a 70% slow that druids cant escape is extremely strong if you're gonna be hitting one
scarlet flame
ranged root, team wide cleanse, reduced cd on fear
the slow can be shifted out of after the BS is over, and your BS isn't killing them
mild thunder
so yes, having one bladestorm on a 45-60s CD and another off-global on a 90s CD is very strong
too strong
and should be nerfed
mild thunder
you're right, if you run SoD it can be shorter
fossil mortar
82 new messages, it has been only a couple of min. And you still arguing BS CD
scarlet flame
82 new messages, it has been only a couple of min. And you still arguing BS CD <...
thats great you can count go use it somewhere else
mild thunder
imagine not muting the server
scarlet flame
dont have to love someone to kiss them
mild thunder
true, i never loved @teal hedge mum but i kiss her every night
scarlet flame
fossil mortar
scarlet flame
🌭
mild thunder
so glad he's back
scarlet flame
hes too young not even legal yet
mild thunder
i can barely even drink in the US
teal hedge
I got to vote in an election last year
scarlet flame
once again no one cared or asked you to speak up
mild thunder
he voted for the nazii party
teal hedge
Fax 😔
mild thunder
fungus so far left everyone be a nazi to him
teal hedge
These liberals... .weak spirjited librals...
mild thunder
liberals are basically alt-right
teal hedge
(trust)
scarlet flame
mild thunder
joe biden is basically hitler 2.0 (he's white)
teal hedge
I love Diamond Joe
Sweden has some similar politicians
People you'd like to grill with, not run your country type-beat
scarlet flame
@mild thunder wrath set with sword is cool
teal hedge
mild thunder
<@589020053748449300> wrath set with sword is cool
that sword is very cool fr
teal hedge
I pledge allegiance to the 'den
mild thunder
shame i aint getting it
scarlet flame
i didn't like it when i first saw it but its grown on me quick
mild thunder
I pledge allegiance to the 'den
should i bring back the biden pfp?
scarlet flame
yeah
mild thunder
biden vs cats, hhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
teal hedge
Iconic
mild thunder
true, it was peak Gala era
teal hedge
There are so many images of swedish politicians eating hot dogs
