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All that because you couldn’t count to 150
Always homo
Big L
its top 50 you brainlet
where does it say 150 you gigatard lmao
you keep making this funnier
How many PvP talents total do top 50 players pick if they can pick 3 each
4?
50 people pick 50 talents you idiot
look at the talent trees
Rip
50 people, pick 3 talents each, how many talents is it?
Updated 7 hours ago, this guide distills the build of the top 50 Arms Warriors across the leaderboards in the US, EU, KR, and TW regions. The players' ratings range from 1813 to 2037, with Haynê from Archimonde (EU) currently reigning as the top 2v2 Arms Warrior.
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his guide distills the build of the top 50 Arms
his guide distills the build of the top 50 Arms
his guide distills the build of the top 50 Arms
his guide distills the build of the top 50 Arms
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Firstly
Why are you looking at 2s when safeguard obviously loses value there
Secondly
Look at the PvP talents… are there enough selected to account for 50 players selecting 3 talents each?
It’s literally basic math dude
LMAO
Alright. So I gotta throw this out there. I main prot warrior, how do I arena with it?
You dont
Reroll
@knotty atlas
To arms
Gigachad prot main
Which will be the best melee now, again
It’s been so long since arms was top melee (3 weeks)
Dk waiting in the wings
One season week
Arms feels so damn clunky. I just don't like it/skill issue. I just like prot warrior.
Dk dies, warr does not
Because they run safeguard 
Yup
My cc is good, burst is about 50% on squishy. It feels good to run. But I can't secure kills and end up losing
Retardd
We live for the memes
I feel like I'm missing a joke here.
You're not.
I wouldn’t joke about that
I don't know what it means then.
PvP coming soon
I tried prot PvP a bit, all i could do was be annoying with CC.
ANd spread bleeds with an occasional nuke with Outburst/SC.
ye thats prot
Pppoopoo checkin
Ok?
As well as the intervene. I've found good burst with spear>ravager>thudershock>shield slam.
Oh, i donm't play spear in pvp.
Oh?
Spear bad
It’s probably fine as prot… you’re F tier anyway who cares about spear lol
Roar
I run roar as well
What
Are you missing avatar or cockwave
Would definitely not recommend this
You’re picking a ton of talents but none of the passives that make any of them good
That's why I'm here 😅🥲
Yeah, I dropped for spear for cc.
I've gone back and forth
Was also thinking of Kul Tiran for 6 CC abilities
Pvp.
I guess ravager only makes sense with spear.
You don't like the gushing wounds on hamme throw?
I'm on my target most of the time with double charge/leap.
So they have DW on them regardless.
can anyone tell me what wreking throw and shattering throw exactly do ?
i never use them and lose againts arms nad fury
paladin too
i used shattering on green bubble of monk
nothing happened
also for paladin again nothing happen
I don't think monk bubble is counted as an immunity.
It doesnt
But my PvP knowledge is abmyssal.
And wrecking throw is not stronh enough for cocoon, only if improved by PvP talentd and you have CDs up
Its good for dark pact tho
so wreking will break spell like (evasion) or (die by the sword)
Wrecking deals 500% increased damage to absorbs.
Like evoker flight, mage and warlock shields, disc SHIELD, retri explosive shield
so dark pact is best thing it can do
mage doesnt count as magic immunity?
Shields, nos cube
Not*
Ice cube, pally Bubble and pally bop break with shattering
And there's another inmune that shattering does not work: druid tranquiity
But you can push the druid with fear if you have It improved with the talent that pushes, if your main target IS not the druid
(pushes enemies around your target)
Another useful thing: bladestorm makes you inmune to icering and you can pass through ring of peace
Kul tiran knock back on druid? Is that a thing?
nice bro you updated me whole level
so if the great vault pvp items are shit, do we just grab maybe a tier piece if theres one from raids/dungeons and convert it to pvp ?
You cant convert to PvP iirc
how you wanna convert it
socket for PvP wrist/ring is good too
dont we have catalysts?
(only improve conq items)
Waaait, how do you convert and socket wrist/ring?
Catalyst transform ítems yo tier not to PvP
ahh right
You can buy sockets with 6 vault tokens if you choose them instead of an item
Okay, so I open vault tomorrow.
And select vault token? Then save 6 of them for conquest wrist and ring?
Today*
Whelping Dreaming Crest, can i just use them to upgrade the bloody token gear to 450 to use for pve or is there soemthing better i should save them for?
And it takes 12 weeks to socket 2 pieces of gear?
Fill more rows for more tokens
1 token per row?
No, you can get 6 if you have more rows on the great vault
why didnt you save your spark for getting conquest trophy to make boots?
i did that so
ah,
you need buy pvp trophy of conquest and use it with infurious boot
nah im saving my conquest
What are these sparks and trophy weapons btw?
I'm just getting back to the game, haven't played since bfa so I'm behind af
i didnt think youd spend the first week conquest on it
Spark = craft material you need one per piece or 2 if 2hand wep
Trophy= extra material that makes crafts conquest ilvl in pvp
Okay.
guys im human do you think i need medallion? i think its useless for me
what embellishments are we running this season?
Medallion removes disarms, stuns, fears, sheeps, mcs... Its still good
Prio racial for stuns tho
Check murlokk.io for those things btw
What is mcs?
It shows every class and spec, with top players, builds and geat
Gear
MC = mind control
Glad to help! If we dont help newcomers or old players rejoining we cant mantain a nice community 😁
I really really appreciate that!!
Yes we can
Maybe a parent-basement smelling, sour community but we can do better

I’ll update pins to have some new season info eventually 
That and high hits
it looks like elite gear got hotfixed into heroic?
Did you know safeguard is bad? No one runs it on murkok.io 
Safeguard is mega broken

im confused why isnt warrior getting buffed in upcoming tuning change
we need more heal
trolling? O.o
just make impending victory 5 sec cd
bro its 25 sec
i mean if they make us more selfheal so we can do somthing in 1v1 or 2 dps arena
now warriro will die 10 sec in duel with ret for lack of healing
warrior 1v1 dh, u wont believe what happend next
thats because dh have lack of selfheal like us
thats why we can kill dh
if we doge elysian decree then dh will leave
Might as well make ignore pain no cd, bring d stance back to 20% reduction damage and buff Arms wall to heal him for 20% of max health
If they say broken it's all lies
Lol arms never been a 1v1 or double DPS spec, maybe only one time ever in history during op mop second wind
Was expecting them to make War Banner unkillable smh
What the heck
Weapon spec is 5% on everything
I don't understand bitter as general choice
Also no zerk/piercing
that would be broken lol
Yeah. Wrecking takes a big old chunk out of absorbs, although unless it's in damp cocoon usually can't be hit into. Good into Warlocks, though. 
Cocoon is so omega busted it doesn't matter if you use wrecking on it or not, you'll never break it
Not without 50% damp at least
Yep, usually just tab off insta to hit their partner or just pressure the monk so they can't easily top the cocooned player.
i break cocoon, but i’m just built different like that
In 2s it seems like people are running blademasters tournament. I’m having a tough time determining how to burst.
I’ve been doing war breaker > roar > avatar.
Is that general right? Not sure how/if to fit in sharpen blade and bladestorm.
Mage discord is advocating for mage to have a disarm
Malding over chronic shift nerfs
They'd finally have every single DR in the game then 🙏
Excuse me, except stun
Can we bring back Deep Freeze Blizz?
fire mage in wotlk had the most broken disarm
cry in mage
tauren mage bis
There's two flavors of Tauren right there, and Kul'tiran.
Mage is the shining example of how strong a class can be despite lacking a mortal strike or reliable/instant stun.
The mortal strike frost bolt thing would’ve sucked if it went life
It would’ve locked in a PvP talent and made their rotation clunky
I would’ve hated it
Queues kind of die when every game is frost mage + warlock just standing around doing nothing.
Im playing frost mage/demo 
Although I can't deny how easy and effective it usually is when it's top tier. 
With an rdruid
Surely you're trolling
Why would they need a disarm if we can never hit them anyways
How is the catch-up on conquest nowadays. If i miss, say 300 conquest this week, can i get that + next weeks amount in next week?
Or do i always lose out on some
pretty sure the 300 is just added to next week's cap
I just get on my hunter. Which after the changes today, it seems they gonna be everywhere
it is
the only thing you lost is vault loot if you miss a week
Honestly gonna just stick warrior
joke on you
Indeed
Thx!
Which embellishment we will use as 2nd? I am already using feet
Deserved
fotm loser
^
^
guys i use {blunt instrument} talent am i right or i need change it to war breaker
are you drilling 1 target or multiple?
I played it a lot last season but not so much anymore. Tier and playstyle leans heavily into cleave and aoe now so i find myself playing warbreaker almost every game.
Second week is coming, what do we craft?👉👈
yes
Blunt is nice if you don't wanna ever whiff it and are hitting a single isolated target, I think.
But as Mud says if there's any semblence of cleave going on you're probably better off just playing WB.
"Blunt" "whiff"
Missing warbreaker feels so sadge
Like when a mage blinks
Anyone else put Mud in the mud before?
Yeah, it do.
Not as bad as missing spear, but we don't play that now.
0.6 seconds left on stun, spear mid-air, warlock trinket prots.
Like, okay man.
I do not miss using that ability
This happened so frequently lol
Mages having a weakaura “SPEAR INCOMING” so they can Insta press their blink bind
Good game bro
Honk honk
magnus would put mud in the mud if they ever 1v1d real talk.
Magnus is too busy playing dh
So right now my tier ranking is:
Dekel
SeifCham
Mud
Mud usually steals builds/comps from those two
Warri players who play dh are betrayers

what are we going for second embellished item (other than boots) as arms warr? Just want to make sure I do not accidentaly select wrong in the vault today.
Looks like they nerfed the cape pretty hard so I no longer think thats the best option
is mastery vers still better than crit vers this tier for arena 2s 3s
In general crit is kind of iffy.
vers > haste mast > crit
ok haste vers
is shadowflame patch ok for arena or no
Real giga Chads stack up on mastery 🙏
i have 42% mastery
cause im about to make a 2nd shadowflame patch for raid/m+ and i am considering a arena embellishment instead
whats a safe bet for arena embellishment that is not wrist slot
like against casters
you literally main fury and alt prot
The projecting is staggering
Aren't you a haste enthusiast you fury wannabe
Alts prot? 👀
@fickle forge ambatakam
AMBATAKAM
300k dps incoming if they stack xD
i pray they let me do full fel barrage on all of them and pets xD
@fickle forge plays prot in random battlegrounds while RPing (mains male human)
Hmm. Moderately based. 
@elfin surge didn't you decide still what will we craft next?
Idk whats nerfed in pvp and what isnt 
all i know is
im crafting a helmet
idk what embellishment tho
Craft them nikes
Is lariat nerfed in pvp?
He good and sounds like he’s high all of the time
It's nerfed by half and scales off sockets so you don't want it early season.
I think that the helmet is nerfed by half but still looks quite good...?
is shadowflame patch good in pvp (im using it in pve atm)
the shield one?
Yeah.
it does look very tempting esp if my dk plays it too
I hope arms get some tuning this week, tired ofit being C tier
Might be super good despite the aura nerf.
Especially if you can have 2-3 on your team. 
is the helmet good for arena 2s 3s
Not sure, I did see one that procced stats.
crit tho 🤮
There's a healer tether one.
There's a crit on ethat falls off if you go below 70% so that's just so out
Yeee, stinky.
Might be op enough to still play, we'll see.
Maybe cook it up on an alt.
I’m pretty sure all embellishments except the pvp specific ones are halfed? Could be wrong tho
Nope.
No Laros?
Or Joe
It's annoying to have to go to wowhead and check the actual data to see what's nerfed, though, lmao.
Joe is just joe lol
is double shadowflame patch good for arena 2s 3s
joe mama
I thought it was pretty underwhelming before and then it got nerfed, no?
Like it's just al ittle 0.7-1.1% dmg or something.
So if you want a super conservative second embellish just going like infurious boots then something like a belt with shadowflame might be fine.
You can always recraft to remove it
what 2 embellishments would you go with if you doing 2s arena vs mage and healer
im thinking allied wrist and interrupt boots
boots are the only good crafted embellishment
rest seem ass
but we need to pick one...
They're meant to be like 1% dmg.
since im mainly focusing on raiding and m+ im doing the wrist back shadowflame patch, but ill get to the boots once this leggo is presented to us
eventually my 2s embellish will be boots and allied wristguards
we can all agree we're crafting a helmet right, we still have a token for helm chest legs
so is the helmet strong in 2s 3s for survivability like should i go helmet and boots for 2s 3s
cause i would back out of allied wristguard or patch for helmet if the survivability outweighs the damage
I miss the thorns helm
but secondaries were crit/vers
guys anyone have any idea how can i beat Bm as arms
we sadge boys
I got tier chest out of my pvp vault, is my best path to buy the legs with the 1600 token and then buy weapon with conquest
2p with conq weap?
or just aim for token weap and get 4p
kill 'em
Your best path depends entirely on when you want to push
There's a best path for highest gear advantage right now this moment.
There's a best path for shortest time to full gear
What piece are yall crafting first
boots
how do we get the renascent dream to turn the pieces into set peices? I only have 1 but I need 2
I capped 4
tbh that's all the pieces you want to look cool
hands helm 2h
Hasn't everyone crafted impunity boots already?
hands helm shoulders on warr 3
why all my warriors get hands in their vault position #1?
seems sus
tier hands or regular hands
post you FAT openings fellas, cmon
seriously what are those odds? 3 warriors, all had pvp hands in vault position #1. 🤔
charge hamstring bloodthirst
50% of the time something always dies within the first 900 seconds after that opener
can't argue with that honestly
just wanted weapon sadge
I capped 4 warriors we'll see what I get...
what off-piece do u guys run this season

for arms we want the 4 piece from helm/chest/legs/gloves, right? so if shoulders (non-tier) were the best item in my vault and it's haste/vers I should take those, eh?
I'm thinking shoulder, unless I decide to get the thorns hat
for fury
no wep, time to farm conq for wep
you could get strife weapon
i'd rather just buy the conq one and not worry about it for the rest of the season
double cloak and boots. fuck me
You'll run out of things to spend strife on significantly faster than you'll run out of things to spend conq on
and I selected boots HOW STUPID AM I
eh im gonna get the strife wep- 3 item levels wont make a diff and can gear other pieces SO much quicker
I hope you get weapon
@elfin surge what did you get
wont be home for 4 hours
@elfin surge middle school?
yea
🙂
sweet i got the conqueror's great sword in vault
never seen a sub rogue die before
@elfin surge what are we buying with trophies if we get wep in vault
So fury seems to go alot of bloodthirst talents but i would assume we still spam raging blow no?
without set ofcourse
gear

this is why youre not SF

if i was in the DK discord flarkness would be 100% less toxic
guys BIS warrior ? is ?
what?
the best tier pieces?
Yes
yes
is fury fun/good for pvp? never played pvp as im really casual wow player, but i enjoy fury a lot
I crafted boots w/first spark. What are you folks thinking for second embellishment for Fury?
absolute fun, but maybe not as fun as being OP arms
strife but I'm fury. Hoping for vault weapon + strife offhand
Fury is usually the lesser spec of warrior.
its very good for learning the basics/core of melee pvp
but its not very strong once you get past that
(usually)
Woah there, lesser? How offensive. This is why you're not the PvP SF smh
😁
Head or Chest for my second crafted piece? any tips?
Yes, lesser. The lesser spec for lesser players, for weak minded players.
Can we cancel this man?
Egirls harass him! Lol
Will Fury end up using just 2pc?
They all wish to be with a r1
Nah nah nah, he hit R1 then asked where are all the egirls 🤣
I can't believe i picked boots, I'm so fucking stupid
What time to log to get question answered?
first wep i've seen today
Guys someone have a guide to honor/conquest buy, craft and use the catalyst to BIS Warrior gear.
i got tier but the helm has fkn crit XD but then i guess to get 4p you have to have a crit piece as 2/5 have crit
i was gutted till i realised helm and shoulders had crit so i would end up with a crit piece either way to get 4p
hows dh nerf
i got my mage to 70 last night and fuck me frost is bloody strong with the new changes
next question is guys do i buy a weapn with my conq this week or do i buy the 486 bloody weapon and get another tier piece?
only a 3 ilvl diffrence in bloody and conq weapon ( i dont have 1600 yet im 80 rating off)
if you have the tokens for wep, i'd get wep and the conq tier
I will totally get wpvp weapon and aim for set pieces
Okay sweet that’s what I was thinking after I do the sparks quest tonight I’ll have everything for the weapon
So I can get weapon on my 2p tonight then I’ll get 3p when I hit 1600 as hopefully tonight to
BIG upgrades for me today, legs in vault, crafted boots and chest, got conq helm and bracers, and sparks wep 😄 gonna pump tonight
just need to hit 1600 now and ill also have 2pc
Solo shuffle is gona get harder now 😂
harder? whyu
Everyone’s been gear locked so far
Get gear with haste/mast, get 4 tier pieces, badabing badabom
Check out murlok.io, and see what top rated players use
And crafted boots
what should i take from vault, neck or chest? both are haste/vers
chest for sure
chest is more conq economy
very true
So ye, take that
ty boys
Buy cheap slots first (unless you save for weapon) and pray the vault provides the rest meanwhile 🙂
Well, maybe we want to rush two set? Not sure
Tier pieces no matter stats, you ll turn it to tier anyway
is very noob but i dont play s1 and s2, any guide to craft items ? and how use my catalyst ?
@elfin surge what crafted piece are you making this week
this is why ur not SF
im makin crafted head since we got token and i'm buying conq sword
isnt the head crit?
i ain't makin the embellished one
ah
unless i throw shadowflame in it i guess, but all embellish are bad anyway
Eh, probably youtubes explaining this.
Crafting you find some blacksmith that can make the boots (or what ever slot you want), and have them craft it. You need the pvp token thingy you get from the first box (so you should have two), and the spark from this season (two parts you combine).
Catalyst you should have had a quest to show you where it is? Cant remember how I even unlocked it. Again- google and youtube got everything you need 🙂
do we even have one?
did i put too much value on mastery?
fellow wars, ideally which tier piece should we aim to skip?
is that stats at pvp item leve?
I increased to around 22% haste and it feels GOOD
got a max ilvl pve weapon from vault and immediately hit duelist, see y'all for the late season push lmao
around 28% mast
not saying thats perfect, but feels so much better
feels good rn but definitely a little clunky. Hittin hard tho
where im sitting
ok ty
Nope, this is why
We're all assholes and trolls at the same time
I just realized, I know one of the SFs
He's in my guild
Guess that makes me a big deal
Nope, you play fury
Isn't that tier chest? I'd probably take that myself and go for strife weapon
Disclaimer: I'm an idiot
or get the chest for 3p
supatease just destroyed me as I was waiting for the dragon race
how much is the conquest cap increased each week?
550
I got the tier chest in my vault, I wonder if I should save my 1600 token then and just get 4 piece on Tuesdsay
Assuming we get another item that converts gear to tier next week
pro-tip the duelist weapon enchant is absolutely phenomenal on the warswords of the valajar dragon axe hidden appearance
I love arms but when some of these guys as soon as the round starts use leap and just go crazy only to get bursted I can’t help but laugh
this is why i always roleplay walk backwards up to the action
nobody laughing at me for leaping
This dude did it every time we all had a counter for it lol
He a true zug zug
Well he was more of a fail fail
a true man
I'. Drubk enough to start rping
So, i got the belt, ring, or helm. But, we're going to craft the helm right? So, not worth picking that? Thx.
?
i would get the belt
belts still pretty pricey
yeah but you are not going to want to use pve tier in pvp because it doesn't scale
The belt, you say. Hmm. Yessss.
the helm is bad stats and you get a free healm ideal stats
Thats exactly what i was thinking. We can craft the helm next week?
thsi week
Oh, word? Thx, Gala.
100% chest. Because you are choosing between getting set on the next week or getting set in a month
Ah, everybody answered already
were aiming for primal helm right? vers/haste or?
yeah mast embellishment is prob the way to go
the embellishment stuff is so unexciting
arms pvp warrior 4 pce is supposed to be shoulders, chest, hands, legs? make crafted helm?
Wanna know too +
I have heard it's head/chest/hands/legs due to the shoulders being mostly crit
i just went and crafted head since it's so early in the season and we have a free token
later it might change
sitting on an 875 value token without using it feels bad
this is right, however early on we get a free helm due to trophies
the small stat diff isnt gonna make or break
you can fix your helm/shoulders mid season or w/e
Stupid question, is strife gear convertible to tier?
ye
and is there any way to get the 4 piece set today? If I spend all my conquest in weap
1 comes from the 1600 token
but we can craft second piece today right?
no they changed cat to 1 every 2 weeks
a lot of people got 1600 token, strife into tier, and today was the potential to get 3p from vault
ah I see

speaking of tier, what pieces we're getting? legs, chest,and..?
you can turn strife into tier but it'll just be 3 ilvl lower than if you had used conquest, correct?
yep
just wanted 6 more rounds for the weekly bruh...
Skill issue
If you were r1 you’d get faster queues
are people crafting inf helm as their second craft after boots?
Not on EU, so it won’t count
i think unholy needed more damage nneerfs

They’ll do more tuning eventually, right? 
anyone here also pve aswell and has upgraded pvp conquest gear that knows how it works?
My friend has hero tracked tier legs from pvp somehow - but mine is veteren tracked
@spice hornet ok kitty is back, when we queueing
so uh for arms, mast or haste weap
i have 1 spark from turning in weekly
but i didnt turn it in last week
and i turned in the shuffle weekly today
no spark
is there no catch for missing spark?
you should get your 2nd spark this week
there is catch up so if you haven't gotten 2 full sparks you will eventually, run lfr or just grind pvp boxes
sig or badge?
I have an even stupider question, where do we see season 2 set pieces details?
anyone have the 2p fury build handy
Hey guys. Is the Epic Hellblood weapon worth getting? Or would i be better off getting a haste verse cape and ring? Thx.
I swear i can't find a list of the pieces, just the bonuses and appearance
I want to see the stats wach piece come with
Dungeon journal
right!!! thanks
and the stats are going to be the same, correct? so we want to prioritize vers pieces
how do you upgrade weapon with trophy of strife? Only letting me use Crest/Flightstones to upgrade
you don't. you buy it with trophy of strife + bloody tokens
no upgrades except for pve stuff
oh i see its a separate vendor now
vers+mastery better for arms over Crit+Vers right?
idk, i'm fury
rip
Orrr, you could buy the haste verse cape AND ring, and just wait on a weapon. Thats what im trying to figure out. Should i get the pole arm or go with the haste verse ring and cape.
Ew, damn. Gross.
Impossible..
I can only see in 8 hours
Europe allwayz delayed..
Yes. We do not want crit as arms
alt war with 1 vault slot is now better geared than main. Silly game.
thanks
Hello I got weapon and tier in vault is weapon better?
i say always go weapon if youre a 2h class
What other piece are we crafting other than boots?

blizzard handicappin you for no good reason :/
got non tier helm and hands in vault, whats most worth?
probably hands since you can just craft a helm at the moment
Working as intended
sub is actually so crazy broken
Got mastery wep on my alt warr 
Yo anyone know what to use second spark for pvp gear. Already have boots was thinking embellished bleed helm or is there one better.
So there is something weird happening with this. A guildie used his 1600 token to buy the PvP tier piece which is champion track. After he upgraded it it changed into hero track
I don’t know if it’s a visual bug or what
But it’s pog
My legs are hero tracked buying this week some how too
Yeah I don’t know if it’s intentional or what. Obviously it’s costly to upgrade it but it’s a no brainer then to take the PvP one
Agreed
Following
what do u think about the engi helm for 900 haste? 👀
a good healer for arms ele 3s?
Very true
That’s fine
Arms warrior isn’t hitting me for a 250k+ blade dance into a 300l ED out of thin air
r/worldofpvp is peak comedy
While throw glaive is pumping me
Just hit 1600 after 8 years, so proud of myself and wanted to share 🙂
don't forget it's solo shuffle where it both doesn't matter and it still matters.
I meaaaaaan
You just mortal for 200k
And spin while immune to cc
Infurious helm is what i should get made, right?
I totally haven’t seen 250k executes by arms this season, not even including fatality 
It’s okay, arms is squishy to compensate, right? Right?
Not squishy, it’s actually low utility to compensate, right? Right?
Or uhh, maybe low mobility? Nope, not that either
infurious boots
Thanks, but other than those.
So, all is coming back to what it was a week ago, right?
Arms being the apex predator of pvp
Doubt
Uh dks still better
Uh got a small nerf and warr gets weapon this werk
Week
Which is the biggest dmg spike
@elfin surge Thoughts on Sub rogue?
Weak players
unstable minds
sub secret tech is hitting 50% of your hp bar through pain supp d stance
wild
it is also unkillable
i dont care if they have big dam or train
they need to be able to die
its so ridiculous how incredibly diifficult sub is to kill
arms can die tho
arms is c tier rn
Stop
they just have to nerf bladestorm uptime cringe
and ignore pain
and the spec is fine
Remove bladestorm then warr is fine

sub, dk, destro/demo, and boomy have been able to kill me, or at least get me super super close on their own.
Sub is worse trust
have nt really ran into other specs except other warrs, or if i did they targetted someone else
You dont win 1v1 but as a spec for 3s you're the best
You bring the most value
Cc, utility, dmg, mobility
As well as warr being the easiest class in the game
Smells like a skill issue ong fr fr no cap on the glizzy stack wit da double blinker on the way to blinkerton to meet my man mr penjamin ong bruh
🙏🙏🙏🔥🔥🔥
💯 💯 on fg my guy
even if it had another charge it would still be C+ tier at best
Also buff avatar by 100%. Give arms odyns fury and recklessness
FDK,ret ? DH
You forgot some buddy
Arms is easier than any of them lol
FDK has like 4 buttons total lmao
Whack a mole spec
Arms is bloated to shit on 4 action bars
Arms has 2 buttons that spam reset each other, while being insanely forgiving
And yet, all are harder than warr
?????????????????
Stop the cap
Lmao
Bruh
Count the abilities
You got 4 spells on your bars?
I use 1/3rd of my total bar setup when I play arms lmao
sruv hunter is even easier than warr
Probably less tbh
You guys have skill bars?
Lmao
Lmao
Nah he trolling don’t fall for it
DONT FALL FOR THE BAIT
He master baitin right now
🐟
Morthrang straight deluded tho
Arms has the least abilities of any spec I’ve played this xpac
And there’s no actual thought into any of it
lets talk about surv hunter rotation
It’s the simplest priority list in the game
Sv rotation easy af ngl
and if you were REALLY good you'd get r1 in 2s
Wallahi, you are done
Sv rotation is braindead and yet still has infinitely more depth than arms 
I'm playing arms and got chest, helm and weap (verse crit). Is the 2h weap worth it even tho it's not verse mastery?
y
thats a beefy sword
but the avoidance buff won't be up in arena :/
is there such a thing as too much mastery?
Is this a genuine question?

looks like this embelishment's the play for pvp/
if anything it gives a 20% slow lol
dude i felt that
People will often use a defensive in anticipation of damage
For example if their healer gets cc'd
Also, you want to use your cooldowns to create as much pressure as possible
Offensive cooldowns have shorter cd than defensive ones
Artji mentioned some of the reasons above, but you also want to be able to track the entire teams CDs to adjust your kill-target and plan your go’s accordingly… I.e. if you see the ww has no karma, no port, no expel harm etc. but you’ve been tunnelling the bm that still has turtle, you can read your omnibar and adjust your next go accordingly
There’s zero downside and near infinite upside to tracking CDs via omnibar or some other addon
Based on this table, the least impactful piece is legs, I think I'm going to craft those and have tier set with shoulders, head, gloves and chest. Also we already have a token for crafting to ilvl 489
what you think?
i mean legs are haste / vers how are they least impactful?
You can craft with haste vers as well, the table shows (I think) the piece that has the least impact on stats
Tier legs good
Tier shoulders bad
Tier shoulders ok if running crafted helm
^
I see, so it's either craft head or shoulders at this point
do we still get a free trophy?
and probably helm, since shoulders would require a new token
now your getting it lol
I don't think so, i finished the weekly quests and didn't get it
shame
huh i havnt seen any trophies drop yet, maybe week 3?
destro also cranks pretty hard
you get from quest
keep doing weekly quests
lol yea
Imma crank your mum if you don’t stfu
hot lol
just 6-0'd my 1900 fury lobby, not bad
gj
ty
do we have only one cata?
1 every 2 week
hey guys, in terms of revival catalyst... i upgraded a conquest item last week, i got the helm out of my vault and i went to go get 2p tier, noticed no token... did some quick googling and it seems its one every 2 weeks (sorry returning WoW player all this is new) is there a way to get another one?
lol im prob one of the most geared wars right now i swear i got to be
i know everyone is about the same but it feels crazy
forgot to change specs when i opened vault and my pvp slots were both 1h weapons
Just spent 2 grand to fix a tooth
It was fucked, had nerve issues so i had to get a canal and a crown on it
Used my insurance already but i make like 1g a week so i fixed it
And have my teeth as fucked like gala? Naw ty
If you extract your teeths gonna deform badly
is shadowflame still a shitty embellishment for pvp?
hmm i have 1900 conquest.
should i either buy 2H
or buy some pieces...
idk if i want to craft helm with Haste/vers or just go Haste / mast.... bc even without vers on helm i have 37% vers.... with it on helm i have 40%... but you lose alot of mast from helm
this is whats kinda confusing me, are both specs going even on haste and mastery or
im thinking about tthis "gathering storms" embellishment
while your afflicted by movement impairing effects stacks up to 20
and next weap atk adds extra dmg
what crafted gear for arms warrior pvp?
omnibar
I did boots for my first I am unsure about second item. I think shoulders but not 100% sure
you can get nameplateauras addon also
the only thing i can do is buy a main set piece.... but dont want to waste buying an item lol.... pretty gigga geared honestly... 482!
i cant find a solid list of crafted gear.. i have these two tokens and idk what to do with em
thats the downfall of it lol
so, we craft head?
I am crafting head yea
helm of vengeance or regular helm?
5% move speed
ok ok, seriously. i didnt spend my conq last week saving for the 2h.
now, should i spend my 1900 conq on the 2H 1800
or should i buy other pieces like chest and legs and then buy the 2H with trophy of strife / bloody token and just focus on gearing the body over weapon
sorry indecisive
Getting tier and getting token weapon is probably a good idea
Considering bloody tokens is only 3ilvl lower
true true
Did you get 2h from vault
yea
then bought 3 offset wpvp items....
im saving all conq till next week most likely
Bro.. wtf is going on.. moongaurd is phased into my realm and this is wierd
i like how after all those dh nerfs their damage is still insane rofl
they having like a cult meeting
crazy
Mm player… 
hey im just getting the vault filled
wtf is going on here though? This RP?
They speaking in tongue and just standing around
if i use 1600 token on a pvp version, i can still upgrade it to the max pve version ilvl right?
Is it just me or is climbing extremely easy atm?
Like last season I needed so many more games to get to the rating I am rn
I got same the rating in 10 games as I did last season in 70
DH and Arms are the go to to climb
Ele if u wanna have a bad time
i got to 1970 the other day on ele then started to have a bad time
I think this new talent is OP
The commander talent that improves your shouts
I hope they don't nerf it, I love this talent
I wish we had it in pve too
whats the name of the addon that swaps party around so healers always on top ?
nvmd i found it FrameSort
damn we gotta take the Mastery Polearm with trophys huh
we should have 2 sparks right? i used 1 spark i dont see any more splinters/sparks in my bags or bank @@
should have gotten your second splinter this week
week1 was a full spark from doing the spark quest
last week was a splinter from a weekly quest box
this week is another splinter from a weekly quest box
where in the world is my other splinter.
did you get your splinter this week?
or last week for that matter? assume you made your full spark week1?
yeah i wouldve gotten last weeks, they always drop on completion of quest right
they drop from the bags you get from the weekly quests
so malica's horde box if doing pvp weekly quests
or the 1500 rep bag
did you turn in your splinter week1?
ill try doing this weeks and see if i get two splinters
week1 there was a quest
where you get a splinter, turn it in and they give you a full spark
just do all the weekly quests, if you're behind it should be possible to get more than one from quest
the 1500 loam niffin rep quest, the 1500 emerald dream rep quest, and the 2 weekly pvp quests can all have them
yeah, odd, i did every quest since week 1 HmMmM
go to the main encampment in emerald dream and check to make sure lady moonberry doesn't offer the Dreams Unified quest
if you missed that quest you will only have 3 splinters
arms is good
been playing a lot of regular 3s around 2k mmr
its a lot of cupid, double lock, frost mage/lock
Not the good Cupid tho



