pvp

[sharp meteor]

Hell yeah.

[bright stream]

I mean you are kinda right, just makes me think of the way I spoke to people a decade ago - and cringe hard.
Yall gotta chill out a bit.

[scarlet flame]

bro you're 36 and not deep stfu lmao

[mild thunder]

Ngl this is more cringe than anything anyone else here says

[wheat jay]

I hate cardio

Except for jumping rope

[mild thunder]

I mean you are kinda right, just makes me think of the way I spoke to people a decade ago - and cringe hard.
Yall gotta chill out a bit.

[wheat jay]

But its too cold outside now and im not David goggins

[bright stream]

mate fucking on the Goggins

what a unit

[scarlet flame]

david goggins the type of dude to just say be born rich

[mild thunder]

Typical American financial advice

[scarlet flame]

the american dream, being born rich

[wheat jay]

Goggins is the man among men

God walking among mere mortals

And a hilarious dude

[mild thunder]

The American dream - be born rich, get famous, act as if you were born poor and struggled

[scarlet flame]

idk how people can't hate the rock the more interviews he does

[mild thunder]

Ummm, actually I think that’s Tate 🤓🤓🤓

[wheat jay]

Imma do the most american shit and train with ffdp banging full volume

[scarlet flame]

tate smells his own shit before he flushes the toilet

[mild thunder]

Tate the kinda mf to say arms mobility is bad

[scarlet flame]

tate the kinda guy to act like its hard to keep a warrior cc'd

whats haste vers gem

[mild thunder]

Tate the kinda mf to say

I mean you are kinda right, just makes me think of the way I spoke to people a decade ago - and cringe hard.
Yall gotta chill out a bit.

[scarlet flame]

[spice hornet]

[teal hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/garrosh-hellscream-world-of-warcraft-hello-chat-walk-in-orc-gif-27318984

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chat-cat-fall-hello-chat-cat-gif-24961178

[teal hedge]

You don't do that?

It's to check for lice and ticks

[scarlet flame]

i think its funny when people leave a server just to come back

why even leave in the first place

[teal hedge]

Well I left because I stopped playing wow fora solid 4 months

[mild thunder]

I left because I don’t play warrior… came back for the emotes

[scarlet flame]

the emotes are nice

[teal hedge]

But I'm back

[scarlet flame]

but im not giving discord money so

[mild thunder]

[teal hedge]

I'm living the PVE-andy lifestyle

[mild thunder]

I got a free nitro month ages ago and haven’t bothered to cancel

[bright stream]

warrior pvp channel seems to be the only active discord channel for pvp

unless you wanna go talk to fucking mages or something

[teal hedge]

[bright stream]

(I say fully meaning to play a lot of mage this season)

[teal hedge]

SAME

I rolled a fire mage for the heck of it and it feels great

Both in pve and pvp

[mild thunder]

They’re pretty much all as active as this

At least from what I’ve seen

Skyhold is just 3-4 shitposters keeping the lights on

[teal hedge]

Korrak's revenge gives mounts?

[spice hornet]

facts

[bright stream]

waiiitt does it? anything sick?

[teal hedge]

Lemme check

[frank knoll]

Stfu about David Goggins, put some respect on him

[teal hedge]

Alliance gets the ram, horde gets the wolf

Looks pretty cool

Goggins is fine himself, don't like his followers

[mild thunder]

And I get your mum

[teal hedge]

At least not the vocals ones

[frank knoll]

He joined the Seals just to workout
Apparently dudes on the Seal team resented him for never wanting to go out on missions and do warcrimes because he was more interested in PT

[teal hedge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/627668988213723137/1019667404181229619/uncaption-1.gif

[bright stream]

thought it was the other way

[frank knoll]

Goggins based

[teal hedge]

Oh?

[bright stream]

thought the wolf was for the boys in blue

[teal hedge]

Nah

Wolf is horde

[bright stream]

well

this may come as a surprise

this makes me sad as I was kinda keen for the wolf mount

[mild thunder]

Welcome back to skyhold

[wheat jay]

Isn't warcrimes the fun part of seals?

[spice hornet]

Average shuffle enjoyer

[wheat jay]

Man's broken mentally

Name checks out

[spice hornet]

Definitely an EU player

Can tell by the spelling

[wheat jay]

And he's an evoker hahahahahahahhaha

All the pieces coming together

[spice hornet]

[wheat jay]

I bet he's a furry irl

[bright stream]

chad move in 2023

its not cool like it was back in the OG furry days, the good ol' 20-08

[teal hedge]

What

[bright stream]

too young to remember the yiff kings of yore?

[teal hedge]

I mean, I know the 2016 cringe era of furries

[wheat jay]

Huh

Fam you okay?

[teal hedge]

What

[frank knoll]

Shuffle will do that to a ninja

I remember way back in 2015 I was in the car with my gf and we got rear ended by a furry

We were good but they car that hit us was destroyed. I got out to check on the other driver, it was a girl she was crying but not hurt, then I look in the back seat and I see the furry costume

[bright stream]

what animal are we talking here

[frank knoll]

The furry helmet was all contorted from crash and it legit looked dead

Like some shit out of a horror movie lol

[bright stream]

u killed her boyfriend

put him down

[mild thunder]

@sharp meteor when did you become a furry?

[sharp meteor]

Uh, dunno. Super long time ago. I just kind of lost interest in tryharding arena in recent history thus the foxes.

[bright stream]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/17ys03l/past_elite_sets_make_them_content_you_can_earn/

based thread

[teal hedge]

You ever get comments for beign a furry?

[sharp meteor]

Not really. Maybe it gets brought up if there's an argument and they're losing.

But if they have an anime pfp we kind of cancel eachother out.

[mild thunder]

No

[mild thunder]

Thank god I changed mine

[teal hedge]

The cat in your profile picture looks so stupid

I am sorry, he looks like a moron

[mild thunder]

Yes

[bright stream]

is it ur cat?

[mild thunder]

Just some cat from a YouTube video

[teal hedge]

You got any of your own?

[mild thunder]

Not allowed in my apartment building

[teal hedge]

I think you should commit civil disobedience

Wanna see one of mine?

She looks so stupid it hurts

[mild thunder]

Yes

Cats are so based fr fr

[mild thunder]

[silk mortar]

are solo shuffle bgs actually coming out this tier or no?

[teal hedge]

Absolutely blank face

Not one thought

[mild thunder]

Looks like a war criminal

[mild thunder]

Rated? No

It’s an unranked testing ground

[silk mortar]

damn i thought they were rolling it out

[sharp meteor]

The mode is out, it's just not rated. I wouldn't expect rated earlier than next season (5-6 months out).

Also good chance they only do it next expansion.

[vivid pumice]

has it been the experience of anyone else that in week 1 healers just aren't capable of keeping up with the amount of damage that dps is outputing?

like i've had several solo shuffle matches now where i don't think the healers are bad, but the amount of damage the dps are doing is just too much for them to heal through

[modern veldt]

did they nerf Bloodthirst? feels like i have to wait a whole global to even get 4 off

[mild thunder]

Yes

You shouldn’t be playing annihilator anymore

[sage raptor]

youre all wrong

[bright stream]

this is the conversation I'm here for

what argument you wanna have

[sage raptor]

this is the correct answer

[bright stream]

I've got, returning elite sets, rotation difficulties, dk isnt overpowered, arms is overpowered, ranged is harder than melee, melee is harder than ranged

[sage raptor]

your gains are inferior to mine

[sage raptor]

I got a better one

I believe tanks should have a more prominant place in pvp

[bright stream]

fuark

even I wont get into that one

lol

and I'll argue with just about anyone about just about anything

[sage raptor]

thats what I thought. Now leave me and my monkey chow to ourselves.

I really did buy it

just soak it in water and put some hotsauce on it

[mild thunder]

I mean you are kinda right, just makes me think of the way I spoke to people a decade ago - and cringe hard.
Yall gotta chill out a bit.

[spice hornet]

[bright stream]

that one really triggered you yesterday ay

[spice hornet]

Wolf

Have you even played warr this season

[bright stream]

haha I've double vaulted it and was planning on playing in the coming weeks after 2400 on the dk

and I played fury in S1 and S2 mainly

(playing arms tho this season)

[sage raptor]

mhm sure

[spice hornet]

I’m not buying it

[bright stream]

yeah the plan is dk to 2400, then war to 2400, and then rest of the season mage

with 2 alts to 1800

[spice hornet]

According to my calculations… you appear to be a dk fotm

[bright stream]

my story is far worse than that

I was a mage main for ~3-4 yeras

[sage raptor]

a meta slave

[bright stream]

discovered DK at end of MOP

tried to make it work for WOD, until my homies all quit, but found war

and ever since I've only dabbled in pvp while becoming a raider instead

because thats what the homies that stuck around or the new homies did

I go back and forth between dk and war now

[sage raptor]

you can be honest. just admit youre a meta slave

[bright stream]

never happy

[spice hornet]

you should be in the DK discord over at pen island.com

[sage raptor]

the best part about maining dk/warr/rogue, theres always something viable

[bright stream]

wars almost always good inpvp, I just kept trying to play it in pve when it was bad basically the whole time

occasionally fury would be decent in raids

arms basically permabad

or mid

dk kinda the opposite usually good in pve, often mid in pvp

but now that I've abandoned raiding for DF

I can just be happy playing both in SS

and forget about ever having friends!

[mild thunder]

Yesterday?

[bright stream]

wasn't that yesterday?

fuck now I have no idea

[spice hornet]

3 hours ago?

jesus

[mild thunder]

He old

Give him a break

[spice hornet]

this is your brain on DK

[bright stream]

IF cooks my brain as wel

[mild thunder]

And fury

[bright stream]

there's a lot going on

gotta wait for that ketosis hit

this is why you dont do cheesecake, then you've gotta boil your brain doing IF and shit

[spice hornet]

whast

[bright stream]

intermittent fasting

you skip food for like ~16-20 hours

[spice hornet]

why do bloody token epic 2hs cost 800 tokens but a 1h costs 200

[mild thunder]

Blizz bias amirite

[bright stream]

well SMF is much cooler than TG

it should definitely be the default/TG should be removed

[spice hornet]

It shouldn’t be a thing

You should just be able to mog 1hs

They can’t balance it right

[bright stream]

that would be based

those wolf 1hs from the trading post?

but then I'd wanna play fury a lot more

and that would be less based

[sage raptor]

no, based is playing what you think is cool. Like sword and shield fury or 2h prot.

[mild thunder]

I just want a sword and shield dps spec man

Please blizz

Why are we getting magical time weaving dragon support specs before a basic ass sword and shield dps

[sage raptor]

ikr? the moment that happens, I can kiss prot warr in SS goodbye

maybe hero talents change that?

[mild thunder]

Absolutely

[sage raptor]

the only thing that would make me not play it is a horse riding Death Knight.

[fossil mortar]

[spice hornet]

Glad stance made me quit WoD it was the best warr spec at launch and arms was F tier (pve wise) and glad stance had super high apm and I had mythic raid 4x a week 4 hours

Wanted to taste cold steel

[mild thunder]

Isn’t wod the xpac where arms literally just spammed mortal strike in pve

At least in hfc

[spice hornet]

They tried making arms a heavy hitter slow spec so at launch you had like 0 rage and do one MS and it did some damage but then you had nothing else to press

Felt SWE full

Felt awful*

Didn’t make it further expansion sucked

[mild thunder]

Wod was the worst expansion in WoW in between the two best expansions in wow

And wod couldve been amazing

If they didn’t cut 80% of the content

Wod has such a cool aesthetic and vibe

[bright stream]

1000%

the raiding was sick in wod

but the pvp was average af

wpvp was rad tho

in wod

[spice hornet]

I remember being one of the first max levels cuz the garrison bug early on lol I had gotten past it

And half the servers were dead

Tich I think was down for like 3 days

[mild thunder]

Garrisons

Were cool

They just didn’t do them perfectly

Should’ve had more varied aesthetics - Tauren, nelf, belf, dwarf etc.

More visual customisation

Should’ve been able to choose your zone

I would’ve rocked tf out of a frostfire garrison as alli

[bright stream]

frostfire was sick

SMV was alright tho

[scarlet flame]

we like this ability

[spice hornet]

Another perfect beautiful day to ingest stimulants and sit at a computer, what a blessed life

[spice hornet]

healer afk in my shuff

i get him 2 rounds in a row

spam reporting still in game not moving

coo,.

round 4 still afk, how is this guy not booted yet

[mild thunder]

Healer queues are just affirmative action for WoW

[fallen estuary]

Perfect day for the gamer pipe and spme gaming rocks

[slender rock]

what does arms do into bm

just had one tank me face on with minimal kiting at all and win /:

twice

[spice hornet]

If they are good it’s hard

Most bm are not

[mild thunder]

If it’s 2s and they have a priest, just swap whenever the bm runs too far

Warriors eat priests

And it’ll force the bm to come back, so you can swap again

You eat them both

If they have an rdruid, /afk

[boreal veldt]

for the 4piece do we like shoulders or helm more or it doesn't really matter

arms

[mild thunder]

Shoulders bad

But some people are taking crafted helm so you need shoulders

[boreal veldt]

Yeah don't like shoulders but what you said about helm made me wonder if it matters

[slender rock]

i mean i did 65k dps on him roughly and his hp never moved( kinda doing math for pets) but yeah they had an rdruid and their hp just didnt drop , and tehy were dog shti back pedaling not kiting at all so it was so frustrating to lose it twice

felt like my only hope was a hard swap on rdruid in cds

[mild thunder]

You need to swap into rdruid

Just time it well, swap when you have stuns

Make sure you or your healer can cover the hunter

[slender rock]

it didnt help my healer didnt have dispell on his bars prolly

but i feel like i use tobe able to fuck up bms if they didnt kite well

guess the times have changed

[spice hornet]

2100 enchant isn’t as cool as I thought it was supposed to be

Doesn’t match our set at all and the particle effects aren’t drastic

Maybe it looks cool on a rogue or Druid or hunter stuff

Can’t find a warr wep this looks good on

[mild thunder]

Hopefully 11.0 brings back cool warrior sets

Dragonflight has not been it

S1 was generic, s2 was okay but mediocre, s3 is… we don’t have to talk about how bad it is

[spice hornet]

Yup

S3 is just bizarre

[slender rock]

whys thehonor gear set go so hard tho

[spice hornet]

Feel like they ran outta time on that one

I feel like if they made the helmet cooler the set would have potential

Just looks weird

[bright stream]

I dont mind it

its not their best work by any means but its better than plenty of war sets

S2 was meh af

[upper carbon]

I am pretty new to warrior in pvp I am curious to how often overpower should be used?

[green sequoia]

Spam lol

[upper carbon]

Is it ever worth to spend rage on whirlwind?

[green sequoia]

As arms your basically mortal strike / overpower / ignore pain lol

[mild thunder]

Whenever you’re not pressing ms

When do you ms? Whenever you can

When do you ignore pain? On cool-down, as long as it won’t kill your rage

Once you have tier set, rend will pretty much be automatic, but until then just keep it up manually

[lost flax]

Are you guys using fatality or executioners precision?

and thoughts on Skullsplitter build? I don't see Icy Veins having that listed but I saw a few higher ranked warriors using it

[mild thunder]

Both

Sks bad

[slender lion]

Wear the jester set, cant be a good feeling when you get slapped by a clown

[mild thunder]

Sks just does what it used to do but over a longer duration

[outer rivet]

Mornings guys decided to go with Fury this season just for a change. Can someone point me out on stat priorities and where to cap and what not to go over? Thanks

[mild thunder]

Mastery

There aren’t any breakpoints for warrior

Haste is ok too, but you don’t have much stat agency between tier and embellishments anyway

[marble bone]

If I dont cap my conq this week, does it carry over?

[severe skiff]

yes

[spark sparrow]

Im sorry brothers

Im switching to DH

They are just too broken

[open glacier]

I saw Bajheera and copied the build for 2v2 and it helped a lot

Still at 1600 but didn't play much

[marble bone]

Weak

[open glacier]

And with the extra rend dmg and execute procs with 2p is nice

[limber relic]

Not sure about fatality

Stat prio i would say is mastery vers haste

[spark sparrow]

In 2v2 DH monk is unbeatable

[frank knoll]

Lol no her Bf actually pulled up on a motorcycle and was wearing a steampunk hat

@sharp meteor are you actually a furry

[mild thunder]

The Fox is dead

[boreal stone]

Ep is really good with 2 set/4set, would highly recommend. Sks doesnt seems that good, but it is playable. the only reason to really play it is to make ur rend tick faster so ur 2 set procs more, its not even remotely close to what it once was

[open glacier]

But SKS gives consistent burst in every CS window, just with double dot dmg u have more preassure

And i think it's not reduced anymore as it used to be since the rework

Rend crits for 22-25k during CDs, deep wounds 15-18, that's a lot of preassure every second

And increased execute proc chance during burst

I think that's better than pray for a 2xEP/OP crit

Just a 2k1-2k4 casual player, but this makes sense for me 😅

[lavish quest]

SKS, no fun thus no hit

[tribal wedge]

i test it recently, but i don't find it really good tbh :/

[lavish quest]

Thanks for coming to my Ted talk

[tribal wedge]

you spread rend so easily with Tclap, that the quicker proc on 1 target seems anecdotal

[open glacier]

The proc is barely noticeable in st

[lavish quest]

And realistically you're spending 2 talents on it. Eww

[open glacier]

The important thing is the 15%dot dmg and tick rate increased (double dmg)

[lavish quest]

I'm sure the proc has a ppm limit, so I doubt it will really affect your procs much if you're rending enough things

[open glacier]

Nah it's about the dot st dmg

[lavish quest]

I could just have MS and Exes hit harder

Constantly

[open glacier]

U have a 10sec window during Cs with double dot dmg

And u still ms/exe there

[tribal wedge]

I tested the proc, against 3 dummy, i GOT an exec proc every 10 sec on average

[open glacier]

It's more reliable in my experience

[lavish quest]

CS might as well be a 2% dmg increase, it's not as big as it was

[tribal wedge]

So + 13% every 10 sec for MS

[open glacier]

Oh CS was nerfed in PvP?

[lavish quest]

Cs and avatar are both nerfed in pvp

Everything warrior has is nerfed in pvp

We're living curse of agonies that have to stay in melee now

[open glacier]

Idk man, it just works for me🤷🏼‍♂️

[lavish quest]

Follow your heart

[open glacier]

Death coil was hitting as hard as my MS and DH/bmhunt is even more disgusting so

[mild thunder]

Arms dots are so amazingly shit, making them tick faster really doesn’t do anything

[open glacier]

Had to try things

[lavish quest]

We all know DH and DK are busted

Buff arms

[river walrus]

Arms tier set looks really good to increase dot damage

[mild thunder]

15% on rend…

I meannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[river walrus]

Rend or deep wounds?

[wheat jay]

its more executes

thats the good shit

fuck dots on warr

[lavish quest]

Dude that's like 500 dmg a tick 😄

[mild thunder]

I’m not even sure this is true because the ppm is capped, and there’s an issue of procs overwriting each other since regular SD and tier SD proc separately

[river walrus]

Proc is capped?

Wtf blizzard

[mild thunder]

Running sks is basically pressing a bad global instead of a good global, hoping to get more good globals later that you might not even be able to use

[wheat jay]

always is

always has been

[river walrus]

I am running fatality instead of skull splitter

[mild thunder]

Unless you’re versing hpala, fatality is still good

[lavish quest]

All procs since about 15 years ago have been capped. Welcome to wow my friend

[mild thunder]

Bring back flayed shot procs

Pls n ty

[wheat jay]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

ina is warr btw

poor guy

fuck

that was fun

i think dk won 0 games xD

[lavish quest]

Fotm player goes brrrrr

[wheat jay]

In all fairness

It was unholy, fistweaver and arms

And 0 CC on me

Full fell barrage on 3 poeple too xD

[frank knoll]

I would 100% main hunter if we still had flayed shot. So much fun

[frank knoll]

Only thing that’s out damaged me in a shuffle has been an affliction lock

[elfin surge]

buff warrior

[wheat jay]

yep

its fun to be op

but dh is easily shut down with cc

roots

and youre done

[lavish quest]

Tru

[wheat jay]

ye ye buff warrior

cuz ill play dh/warr

xD

i want both to be meta

[frank knoll]

Honestly as bad as the mage discord says frost mage is, it’s the most annoying thing to face as DH

RNG root spam

And immo aura talent doesn’t work on all mage roots

[wheat jay]

yep

XD

its kinda annoying

and rdruid

rsham

basically your only mobility is fel rush

cuz you cant rly walk in arena

cuz youre crazy slowed 24/7

[frank knoll]

I think frost is still good, I just think they don’t want to be forced to play spike. Nerds

[hot solstice]

I thought dh is range spec

just glave everything and win

[wheat jay]

One range skill that's overall like 10% of your dmg

And not bursty at all

[mild thunder]

Warrior has heroic throw

Must be a Ranged spec

[frank knoll]

Glaive doesn’t do much lol

Just a DoT

That they nerfed already last season

[mild thunder]

Dh does not need a ranged slow tho, let’s be real

[wheat jay]

Its their only slow

Give me melee slow and id be fine with the change

[frank knoll]

I can’t wait for this one shot build to get nerfed so you can spec into something less clunky

[wheat jay]

Its not clunky tho

Once you get used to it

Took me few days and some pve

[hot solstice]

ppl never played wth resonator

[mild thunder]

30% slow on blade dance, there ya go

[frank knoll]

Yeah maybe I need to give it some time

[wheat jay]

But its not clunky, there's actual rotation there

[wheat jay]

50% and we have a deal

[mild thunder]

Dh doesn’t need a 50% slow

[hot solstice]

is this warrior discord?

[wheat jay]

You dont need a 50% slow on feral

You change forms anyway

[mild thunder]

Feral doesn’t have a 50% slow

Kekw

[wheat jay]

Good

Anyway, gonna drive to work now

[frank knoll]

Immo aura-fel rush- eye beam- stun- Hunt/ED-immo aura- meta- essence break- deathsweep

[wheat jay]

Can continue in like 30min

[mild thunder]

No

[wheat jay]

And you wasted inertia on eye Beam that does 0 dmg

[frank knoll]

Ur supposed to vengeful retreat somewhere in there but I like to save glimpse for avoiding stuff

[wheat jay]

Just eye Beam before fel rush

You vengeful for fel barrage

That's the other burst window you do

[frank knoll]

Yeah

[wheat jay]

Anyway, driving

Cya

[mild thunder]

Ciao

Aight, someone say something dumb so I can call you retardded

[frank knoll]

I’m too regarded to get the DH rotation right

Like a true warrior player

[lavish quest]

Warrior is D tier

[mild thunder]

Unironically harder than arms

[mild thunder]

Retardd

[hot solstice]

"hard rotation" LMAO, have u ever tried do combo in fighting games

[lavish quest]

Banned

[mild thunder]

Hard rotation? Have you ever tried to do X unrelated thing? 🤡

[mild thunder]

One day

[hot solstice]

answering with question. got u

[mild thunder]

English please

[spice hornet]

Good morning

[wheat jay]

Ok i can chat

Traffic xS

[mild thunder]

No

[lavish quest]

We don't listen to galachad, he's special

[hot solstice]

cant find a single game on his check pvp this season

[lavish quest]

Probably losing to an emu or soemthing

[hot solstice]

probably shouldnt trust a word

[lavish quest]

The R1 said to buff warrior. Obviously what's is needed 😈

[frank knoll]

Galachad hasn’t had his Vegemite yet

[analog merlin]

i went 5-1, I didn't say a thing, he went 3-3 but was insta deleted one round

[frank knoll]

“Dante”

The funniest DH name I saw was a dude named “gaysteroider”

[analog merlin]

that's unusual. usually it's just edgy names

[frank knoll]

i love how we all collectively state how broken warriors are in pvp and the responses are truly weird like they actually believe they are good and thats what is saving them each round HAHAHAHA

YALL are so broken and whats sad is you play with full knowledge but will never admit that you only win because blizzard favors you.

Literally have stuns/CC on a rolling CD have mobility to counter every class and damage/healing from doing absolutely nothing strategic just slapping your keyboard like a Neanderthal.

The worst part is the gaslighting… you guys try to pretend like you need buffs and youre struggling but god damn you guys have everything in the world at your disposal.

It pretty sad how you guys truly think you have skill and dont realize how difficult the game REALLY is for real players.

Demon hunters im also talking to you but your run is only situational however warriors been constantly OP forever.

I love how the only XpAC that had a melee repellant(blood horror) you guys were trash and couldnt keep up. Prolly cause you actually had to think for a change…

Blizz didnt like their baby warriors getting beat up so they removed the talent forever and made sure to give spell reflect to you guys because lord knows if we were equal you guys would be in the dirt.

/spit …dont @ me
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[elder island]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-optimus-prime-too-long-didnt-read-the-transformers-gif-17741671

[wheat jay]

Is this a "warriors are delusional" post?

[frank knoll]

Yes

[crystal harbor]

buff warrior

[lavish quest]

Man malding

[thin venture]

Seamendemon

[lavish quest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/277986299095547905/1175902385600729118/image.png?ex=656ceb6f&is=655a766f&hm=cdafa3952c43ad45bcf69a57655f1a64c0cf1868ea6648149a759b50f97b2a6b&

[green anchor]

kill him

[fallen solar]

Arms got booty cheek damage compared to DH

[sharp meteor]

Say it ain't so.

[teal hedge]

AND you listen to weezer?

so powerful. .. ,

[frank knoll]

Most fried take I’ve heard from mages “Frost mage needs a mortal strike”

Bruh

[sharp meteor]

They almost got one, lol. There was an honor talent that caused frost bolt to apply it.

[worthy fern]

That’s worse than the mages need a stun take

[lavish quest]

Mages need deleted and that's about it

[green anchor]

with Mortal Strike

[elfin surge]

hey guys xaryu here

[royal rose]

The only benefit to buying a piece of tier before tomorrow is for that extra advantage in pushing rating right? I’ve been sitting on my free piece and 1350 conquest cap and was just gonna wait to see what the vault gave so I could still try and snag the weapon Tuesday lol

[worthy fern]

Dnt buy shit til tmrw

If you have waited this long already

[royal rose]

Yeah I just wanted to make sure there wasn’t gonna be some weird mechanic with the catalyst lol.

[worthy fern]

No

[sharp meteor]

No rush to use charges or spend conquest.

[rotund trellis]

I did the same, just pushed ranks to get the token and parked the toon until tomorrow. Working on Alts, same strategy

[lavish quest]

It's fine, xaryu doesn't retail anymore

And I'm holding onto the tier token and conq too, but my vault will be cracked and hopefully a hard choice lol. All filled up, 3 heroic raid, a +18, 16 and 15 options, then all 3 for pvp too

[oblique apex]

recomend addon for enemy unit plates its fcking all the same with default ui

idk wheres enemy where my team guy 😄

[rotund trellis]

now the real questions: if you get the 2h in the vault AND a tier piece, what do you pick? Wpvp weapon is still decent

[sharp meteor]

Depends on how good tier is.

I just grab wep for conq economy.

[lavish quest]

Plater or threatplates. Find a good profile for either and bam

[oblique apex]

elvui also had something integrated on them

[lavish quest]

Elvui 🤮

[oblique apex]

i mean i want to see all the enemy plates in red like red line

[lavish quest]

Aren't they red in default ui?

[sharp meteor]

Yeah.

[oblique apex]

idk i didnt change anything,its like fcking rainbow in bgs

[marble bone]

Wep and flex as fury with two big guns😎

[marble bone]

Thats an option I believe, showing healthbars as class colour? Not 100% sure though

[dawn niche]

is fury bad in 10.2?

[lavish quest]

I use class color personally because it's very useful

[marble bone]

Not sure, havent faced a single one yet

Ye same

[lavish quest]

Probably workable, but arms is de wae

[oblique apex]

ye probably i should turn off friendly nameplates

[lavish quest]

Yes

My plater profile makes them very short/small

But I use I think trills? I forgot tbh lol

[sharp meteor]

Allied nameplates are good but yesh something like player to make them smaller.

[lavish quest]

I just modified it to better work in pve too, and it works great

Or maybe it was mes's. Super forgetful on it lol

[rotund trellis]

Speaknig of nameplates, i use Threatplates, is there a way to hide pets bars but keep the Demonic Tyrant one?

[lavish quest]

@limber relic has some way of doing it I don't really understand

[limber relic]

o/

come my stream

i cn help

[green sequoia]

It is. I use class colors

[elfin surge]

💪🏋️‍♂️

hello friends

[wheat jay]

Stop lying you dont lift

[frank knoll]

Lol

[lavish quest]

This day, mud found no friends

[green sequoia]

I wonder what needs nerfed

[rotund trellis]

frost dk

[sharp meteor]

Havoc is a bit of an abomination. 😅

[wheat jay]

Unholy too high

Nuke it

[green sequoia]

Lol dk and dh are a little over powering other dps hahaha but dh needs to be deleted

[wheat jay]

Leave my dh alone

Go bully spriests or something

[green sequoia]

Lol boomy is nasty and it’s not even on the list bc of dh and dks lol

[frank knoll]

Hell yeah

I’m actually going to seriously try on boomy

[green sequoia]

I may just do some normal shit today and not risk anymore cr till some tuning lol

[frank knoll]

I’m not doing anything serious until tuning lol

Just memeing on DH and BGs

[wheat jay]

Get elite set on dh xD

[eternal hare]

i get 0 for 3-3 and like 18 for 4-2 in solo so my patience for 15 minute queue into cancer is p low

[green sequoia]

That’s mmr issue not cr gains lol…. Win some more to make mmr go up homie

[muted surge]

seems like you didnt win enough

[eternal hare]

yeah i mean im trash mhm confirmed

[muted surge]

yep

[green sequoia]

I may just do world shit and 2’s on a rogue for fun…. Idk can’t seem to WANT to que anything

[eternal hare]

does mmr span across the queues ? i played a bunch of 3s w/ my newbie friends and tanked that there

[wheat jay]

No

[eternal hare]

[lavish quest]

Just ignore artji, he's a fotm reroller

Now to get him to fotm reroll to healer

[river walrus]

ALL those specs op??? Better nerf frost dk cds by 50% again

[elfin surge]

mmmkay

[green sequoia]

We don’t lift in here!

[robust ice]

What embellishments is everyone going for arms arena?

[modern veldt]

Dragon Charge for fury and arms 😛

[pure hornet]

On reset should i get weapon, or complete the 4 set?

[green anchor]

It's the start of DF S1 all over again

[lavish quest]

How were you planning to complete 4 set?

[sharp meteor]

Infurious boots are usually a pretty good choice, and I imagine the absorb helmet will be really good but likely mega nerfed if it isn't already.

[pure hornet]

I have 1350 conq si with 550 more and strife o can buy 2 pieces left.

[lavish quest]

But the peices you buy aren't tier

[pure hornet]

I have infurious boots alrdy amd hands and legs

[mild thunder]

Imo absorb helmet is a waste on arms, you’re better off taking an offensive embellishment

[pure hornet]

Bought hands with strife

[pure hornet]

Agreed

[lavish quest]

But how does all 4 become tier?

[pure hornet]

? 2 are alrdy sets. Vault mag grant one more. And last one i go catalyat pr wait next week for catalyst fuel

[faint pumice]

We get catalyst every 2 weeks now

So no candy for you this week

[lavish quest]

^

So when you hack it, lemme know

[pure hornet]

Ill try but sure

[lavish quest]

Aka, so if you get tier from vault, you'll have 3 set. But you'll have to wait one more week to catalyst another

[pure hornet]

Something might come up . We will see.in am optimist.worst case scenario i mail blizz to gove me a second 1600 token

😂

[fallen solar]

I’m legit serious when I say arms has fallen off

[lavish quest]

Maybe if you go into the raid and get a big ilvl tier from there you can have 4 pc

[fallen solar]

UH the king now

[pure hornet]

Never thaught of that

Man u have a higher perspective. I just might try it

[mild thunder]

Skill issue

Arms - gets buffed on 10.2 release
Arms mains - we fell off

[sharp meteor]

I don't know about that.

[pure hornet]

The 4rth bonus set has a 50 second cooldown tough

[mild thunder]

[lavish quest]

I am a God

[lavish quest]

We got compensation buffs 😉

[mild thunder]

No, arms got buffs.

[lavish quest]

I full cleared normal and did 7/9 H. Got 0 tier. So I wish you luck sir

[lavish quest]

And nerfed

[fallen solar]

I say this because I haven’t seen no arms out of over 300 rounds of shuffle across my characters

Like I don’t see them

Ever

I know how UH and DH work now cause that’s all I see

[mild thunder]

Because the game tries not to make duplicates in shuffle?

And yea dh is the new fotm spec

Neither of those mean arms is weak

[fallen solar]

DH and UH in every lobby

Arms is strong af

I just hate I haven’t seen any at all

[mild thunder]

Seems like it hasn’t fallen off

[fallen solar]

Fallen off from my lobbies lol

[pure hornet]

Dh is cancer

[mild thunder]

That’s… not really what that means

[pure hornet]

I stick to arms tough.

[mild thunder]

Arms still probably better than dk in 3s too

[pure hornet]

Dk is bad. But dh is playing itself

[robust ice]

our class tree is so boring. very little choice besides a couple little things

[pure hornet]

Hope i dont get crap stuff in vault,like weapon or stuff :))

[pure hornet]

Thats what every class sayz.we’re fine

[lavish quest]

I'm gonna have the finest collection of 9 bracers to choose from

[pure hornet]

😂stop it

No one gets that much of bad luck

[brazen citrus]

leaning to dk being better in 3s rn

just off of damage

[tribal wedge]

where did you see this ?

[brazen citrus]

but warrior isnt outclassed by dk at all

[pure hornet]

Down bellow in white

500 ms cd

[tribal wedge]

500 ms = 0.5 seconde my mate

[elfin surge]

500 mortal strike cooldown

[pure hornet]

Oh 0,5 seconds is opp

[urban skiff]

doesn't matter. Sudden death has a 3 second cd

[pure hornet]

Still pretty big i say

[urban skiff]

Might as well say every sudden death

[pure hornet]

Mmm no… better that every death will be sudden

[urban skiff]

I can't get out of improvised leaf bed wtf

no buff to cancel, no exit vehicle button, jumping doesn't do anything

[pure hornet]

I cant infuse shdow edge to get shadowmourne. Allwayz kill putri by mistake

[urban skiff]

I'm stuck on the blood queen part myself, have been for years

[pure hornet]

Difficult to get that axe i swear

[urban skiff]

Turns out "Must have competent friends" is impossible

[pure hornet]

Teah. I think better way is to abandon quest and forget that transmog exists

[urban skiff]

nah

[pure hornet]

Ill get a bland one and end it

[urban skiff]

I got the rogue daggers, I got the warglaives, I got sulfuras, I got the bow (on my warrior)

I got the cloaks

[pure hornet]

I got nothing but i allwayz wanted shadowmourne

[mild thunder]

Arms still has an inflated toolkit, doesn’t die and avoids cc for half the game… it’s a top 3s spec, but yes it doesn’t dh/dk damage

And it shouldn’t

[brazen citrus]

i dont think it should either

i just think dk is better rn

not by a large margin

[mild thunder]

They both deserve nerfs

[brazen citrus]

once dk and dh r nerfed (rightfully) then warrior and rogue are next

double intervene shouldnt of ever been brought in

safeguard is fine but getting 2 intervenes is troll

[mild thunder]

Arms and rogue should be nerfed straightaway… arms been over-performing a while

[brazen citrus]

arms wasnt over performing last season

arms was blatantly fine

[mild thunder]

Yes it was

It was a top spec for 3s and shuffle

[brazen citrus]

arms is always highly repped

its a popular class

[mild thunder]

It was also just a meta spec

Ret/warr ran rampant

[brazen citrus]

so did splay and aug dk and rmp and ele boomy and boomy lock

[mild thunder]

RMP was not popular… at all

Hasn’t been since SL

Boomy lock was not popular

2400+ was all ret/warr, Aug/x and splay, with smatterings of mm Cupid

[brazen citrus]

rep isnt a blatant indication of strength

pretending rmp wasnt powerful is crazy

[mild thunder]

I didn’t say it wasn’t strong (although it’s definitely fallen off), but it didn’t run rampant

RMP is pretty much never king of ladder because it requires a positive iq

[brazen citrus]

it was S tier for the 1000000th season in a row

[mild thunder]

And yet no one played it

[brazen citrus]

rmp is much more popular on eu

than it is on na ladder

anyways

[mild thunder]

Meanwhile Ret/warr, Aug and splay were everywhere, and just as strong or stronger

[brazen citrus]

ret war was cracked yeah

but arms wasnt the best melee

[mild thunder]

Arms was absolutely a top-tier spec in the backend of s2

[brazen citrus]

by far

[mild thunder]

Ehhhhhh

For 3s, I’d say it was

[brazen citrus]

i didnt think arms was s tier

at all

it was an A tier spec for sure

[brazen citrus]

wasnt better than rogue period point blank

[mild thunder]

It was point blank

[brazen citrus]

we just disagree

[mild thunder]

I think you can see I’m right by observing how dominant arms was on the ladder - which is the other issue… arms is too rewarding for such little investment

[brazen citrus]

ladder rep isnt the blatant indicator of power

that u think it is

but ok

[mild thunder]

Alone? No, it’s not. But it’s certainly indicative

[brazen citrus]

warriors had down seasons and was still among the most played specs

its warrior

people like to play warrior

not saying warrior was bad last ssn

[mild thunder]

You say that, but you can go look at rep right now and see that arms isn’t a top-played spec

[brazen citrus]

it was rlly good

arms is always going to be a top played spec thats what im trying to say

alot of specs arent nearly as popular as arms

but alot of the times they match if not surpass it in power

[mild thunder]

Yea and i pointed out that that’s not entirely true and you can go check rep right now to see

Because arms players have dropped since it’s not the top melee anymore

Arms is always decently represented - when it’s top-repped (like it was last season), there’s a good chance it’s over performing

[brazen citrus]

thinking arms warrior was better than rogue last ssn

is omega fried

[mild thunder]

There’s also really only 2-3 specs that avoid being popular whenever they’re strong.., sv, feral and sub/outlaw

[brazen citrus]

sub is often just as good if not better than warrior

[mild thunder]

Sub was good last season, arms was probably better, especially in the hands of the average player

[brazen citrus]

i mean the argument is what was the better spec

not whats better in the 2200 players hands

[mild thunder]

At the top-end in the hands of the best players, sub might be better, but arms is way more rewarding for the average/above average player

[mild thunder]

I’m talking 2400+

Top players are 2800+

[brazen citrus]

is whats better at the top not an indication of whats better period?

[analog merlin]

sure if you're a 1% type player

[mild thunder]

Kinda, but when you have 2 specs, one that requires high investment for high payoff and one that requires minimal investment for the same payoff, the latter is effectively stronger

[brazen citrus]

arms warriors top end payoff was inferior to sub rogues top end payoff

is what im saying

[mild thunder]

And I disagree, it was roughly equal

Meanwhile arms dominated the rest of the ladder because it’s so retardd friendly

[brazen citrus]

ur acting like ret war just didnt have any matchups where it lost lmao

[mild thunder]

It had few matchups where it lost, that’s why it was a top comp and very high repped

[brazen citrus]

not saying arms wasnt competetive

but calling it the BEST

is absolutely fried

[mild thunder]

Ikr calling the most popular melee spec that performed exceedingly well the best is so fried

[brazen citrus]

yes it is fried i expected better of u

[mild thunder]

I’ll give you this, IF played with an Aug, I think feral was better

Bexause aug/feral was a disgustingly absurd comp and idk how it didn’t get played more (it was boring)

[elfin surge]

whats going on here

[lavish quest]

The average player isn't 2400+ lmao

[mild thunder]

Never said they were

[brazen citrus]

warrior was not

the best melee last ssn

i refuse to concede it

[lavish quest]

So then why is your go to point for "in the hands of the average" then "I'm talking 2400+?"

[mild thunder]

You can keep repeating it, that’s fine

[lavish quest]

Like... huh

[mild thunder]

I said average/above average

2400 is not a top player

It’s a good player

[lavish quest]

2400 is higher than above average as well

Not many are 2400

[mild thunder]

If you wanna look at the entirety of the ladder and include the fingerless mongoloids at 1200, sure

In that case, 1800+ you’re already a god 1% player

[lavish quest]

I mean... I guess if you take only 2300-2450 I guess 2400 is probably the average then yeah

[mild thunder]

Idk I’d call 1800ish the average pvper

I don’t think sub 1800 players should really be included in that conversation

[lavish quest]

Elitism

[frank knoll]

1800 is mad easy

If you apply yourself

[mild thunder]

1800 is like… the beginning of PvP if I’m honest

[frank knoll]

You can get 1800 on any spec

I think Outlaw is easier to play than sub

[warm portal]

i bet you the actual average player is like 1400-1500

[mild thunder]

Yea again, I’m just not including those players

[warm portal]

thats fair i didnt read anything above i just saw that comment lol

[mild thunder]

Calling 2400 players the top 1% amazing god tier players misses the point

[warm portal]

oh yeah

[mild thunder]

As a 2400 player, I am ass

[warm portal]

2400 players are better than all the riff raff but you get tossed if you fight actual good players (2800+)

[mild thunder]

Yea 100%

I beat pika in 2s and went even with xaryu in shuffle tho

Then I ragequit a shuffle on someone’s stream

Oh and I think I beat claak in shuffle

All s1 tho

[robust ice]

shuffle rating is so weird. i went from 1400-1750 on my lock going 4-2. then on warrior i went from 1580-1660 going 6-0. anyone know the rhyme or reason here?

[warm portal]

feel like i hang in games with that tier of player
but then i que into like Trill in shuff and he just bodies the other 5 of us the entire time even at 2700 lmao

[frank knoll]

I faced Pika on his Alt monk in 2s back in Shadowlands and lost

[mild thunder]

The gap between 2400-2800 is crazy ngl

[warm portal]

im playing checkers and they are playing chess

[frank knoll]

Queued into Chillpills in shadowlands, beat him, then he whispered me telling me to KMS

[mild thunder]

Pretty much… I just pve and win off pressure in most of my games, the highest iq play I’ll make is begging my feral to swap rdruid with me

I barely pay attention to the game

[frank knoll]

I love how swapping on HoTs vs Rdru teams doesn’t even matter anymore

They just keep their whole team up with ChatGPT

[lavish quest]

2400 might not be top 1%, but it's not close to average either

[mild thunder]

I said above average man, cmon

Pls

[frank knoll]

But 1600-1800 is like the same thing

Naw he said 1800 is average

[lavish quest]

Well it's technically above average. It's just highly above average. Lol, a bit misleading

Most people find 1800 hard. Because most people pve

[frank knoll]

You’re like a god if you’re 1800 and you join a random BG

[lavish quest]

I've tried to pvp with guild/friends before, you'd be amazed

[mild thunder]

Idk how many times I can repeat the same thing - I’m not including 1200 andies

[lavish quest]

So then you're not including the average. Exactly my point

[mild thunder]

Because I think terms just get vague, empty and meaningless if you start calling 2400 players top 1% giga-gods

[lavish quest]

Maybe you could say the median? Lmao

[mild thunder]

I’m including people that actually PvP to be competitive

Not the entire fucking playerbase

Holy shit

[lavish quest]

They're competitive at a lower level

So... They're included?

[warm portal]

its cooler that way because then i feel better

[mild thunder]

Alright I guess if you got 2400 once you’re a legitimate god, second coming of Christ, shiva himself, Oppenheimer’s destroyer of worlds player

Gg ez

[lavish quest]

Just saying, you complain arms is too ez for the average player, so arms are gods at 1600 because that's likely the average

[mild thunder]

And I clarified, and said what I meant by average/above average and that I wasn’t including certain ratings because I don’t think it really counts

Idk if you’re illiterate or what

[lavish quest]

Just because you say something doesn't mean it's a good point. Like wut up with the lack of thought

[spice hornet]

my arena rating isnt going up or down

anyone else have that bug rn

after matches

[lavish quest]

Are you going 3-3?

[mild thunder]

The good point is the point of my bbc going inside your mum now stfu

[frank knoll]

I’ve been losing Arena matches

[spice hornet]

no regular 3s

2s

[frank knoll]

Anyone else have that bug

[spice hornet]

rating isn't moving

[mild thunder]

Damn bro, that bug is wild

[lavish quest]

What a display good sir!

[spice hornet]

arms C tier life

[warm portal]

i've never lost an arena match in world of warcraft but rating won't go up pls blizzard

[mild thunder]

Real

Arms so bad

Need buffs pls

Make safeguard a 100% dmg reduc for 10 seconds

Make banner unkillable

Make spell reflect permanent

[marble bone]

nah permanent is too OP, just make it last like6 seconds and reflect everything for the whole team meanwhile

should be ok

[craggy meteor]

There any way at all to catch up if you miss the first week vault and spark?

[mild thunder]

You can buy trophies of strife with honor

No vault catchup tho

[craggy meteor]

Bummer. That extra item is pretty huge

Thanks for the info tho

[lavish quest]

And if you're behind one sparks they will just drop from stuff until you're caught up

[magic wing]

whats the first craft ?

[lavish quest]

Boots

[sharp meteor]

Can't go wrong with boots.

[elder island]

2080, 1 round from 2100, then tanked my rating 😦

A LOT of demo locks now

feeling like s1

[urban skiff]

DH/UH only thing keeping those casters down right now

Lot of people seeing nerfs incoming, who are prepping casters

[elder island]

yup

Mage lowkey nuts

once dh dies

mage rising

[urban skiff]

Mage, warlock, spriest, moonkin

[elder island]

boomie is already a menace

[urban skiff]

I hear even devoker is kinda nuts now

[elder island]

and demo lock

[urban skiff]

at least i know i'll go untouched

no nerfs for fury

[brave relic]

is annihilator the ideal pick for pvp? seen a lot of builds with it, but it seems a bit clunky to me

[urban skiff]

Not sure where you get the idea it's ideal. I think it's a lot of fun and doesn't feel clunky to me

ideal is arms > rb fury > annie

[brave relic]

sure thing ty

[lavish quest]

Go arms.
If you don't want to go arms, go arms anyways and just pretend it's fury.

[brave relic]

lool

i just like the self healing of fury

idk how arms compares with that

[lavish quest]

The real ideal is to go DH tho

[urban skiff]

It's too late to go DH

Nerfs incoming any day now

[lavish quest]

Never to late babeee

[urban skiff]

I made a dh, geared it, prepped everything. Just can't make myself play it

[lavish quest]

Hasn't been announced yet means you got another week

[urban skiff]

It's fury and aug for me

I expect nerf announcement to come within the next 12 hours, and to go into effect at reset.

When it's big stuff they don't give people time to react

[lavish quest]

Did you just say aug?

[urban skiff]

yea

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/puke-throw-up-dumbanddumber-dumb-gif-4050314

[urban skiff]

but it's not fun with the latest changes

Would go back to devoker but they have like 1 very niche comp in 3s

[lavish quest]

I mean they didn't change how it played did they? Just made it less op

[urban skiff]

nerfs also came with the loss of set bonus

and the new set bonus don't do anything in pvp because nobody plays prescience

[mild thunder]

Yea but that’s all people care about for “fun”

Can I win games with minimal effort? Yes? Wow this spec is amazing such good design wowowowow omg so good soy soy soy

[lavish quest]

U not wrong.
I'm just eternally bound to be a warrior simp in all content even when it's shit

[mild thunder]

I’d respect that if warrior was ever actually not fotm in PvP

Those rare seasons arms isn’t good, fury is anyway

[lavish quest]

I do more than just pvp

Warrior is often not fotm in pve

[mild thunder]

True, warr sucks in pve

It’s also just dull in pve tho

[lavish quest]

Yup, still only thing I play really tho

Well I like it 😂

[mild thunder]

Fury pve

Is uhhhh

Idk, not fun

[lavish quest]

But usually in pve I main prot tbf

And then dps when I need to

[vivid pumice]

Fury pve is for people who think BM pve is too hard

[lavish quest]

BM pve is easier tho

Nani

[mild thunder]

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Is it

Bm at least has one buff to maintain

Fury has nothing

[lavish quest]

Yes

Fury has more than 2 buttons

[vivid pumice]

BM has 4 buttons and it ALMOST matters what order you press them in

[mild thunder]

Does it?

[vivid pumice]

Fury with Annihilator has 2

[mild thunder]

Fury is a combo point spec with 1 generator and 1 spender

[lavish quest]

Does fury use annihilator in pve? Maybe now with new tier, haven't kept up to date

Because I think arms pve is just better right now

Thus fury uninstalled from game

[mild thunder]

Think so

[lavish quest]

Maybe not in m+, idk, I tank

[mild thunder]

Arms even more boring than fury I stg

Rage? What’s that?

[vivid pumice]

Yeah with 4 pc Fury uses annihilator

[lavish quest]

Well arms is literally broken now. Well more so than it was before

IP nerf without adding a rage dump

[vivid pumice]

Fury is fine for raiding if you're learning new bosses because you can pay attention to the mechanics instead of worrying about optimizing dps

[lavish quest]

[mild thunder]

Yea they’ve kinda ruined resource management

On a lot of specs

Because of poor design with the new trees

Instead of picking one resource gen node in a row, you get 4 extra

[vivid pumice]

Idk it's weird. Since they got rid of IP as a rage dump I've actually found myself more rage starved than before

[mild thunder]

Battlelord change

[vivid pumice]

Like it's rare that it happens but it does happen, whereas last season it never happened

[mild thunder]

You just waste rage now with new battlelord

Unavoidably

I mean, you did before too but it’s probably a bit worse now

[lavish quest]

Idk, stay in melee range and you basically perma capped until execute

[vivid pumice]

I think the issue is I'm actually hitting situations where I'm using slam as filler now where before it wasn't even on my bar

[mild thunder]

If you rng 10 mortal combos you can kill your rage… for 2 seconds

[mild thunder]

In pve?

[lavish quest]

How are you running out of OPs?

[mild thunder]

I don’t think this should happen

[vivid pumice]

Yeah in pve

[mild thunder]

Are you running storm of swords?

[vivid pumice]

Yeah I am, like I said, it's super rare that it happens

But the fact that it happens at all is noticeable because it didn't before

[mild thunder]

Tbh you can just thunder clap and reapply rend instead

Like, the loss will be incredibly, incredibly minor

[vivid pumice]

That's what I do in pvp

[mild thunder]

If at all

[vivid pumice]

Or reapply hamstring

[mild thunder]

But yea they need to nuke arms rage gen

And delete battlelord

[lavish quest]

I just Thunderclap in pve too lol. But because it's more efficient rage spender and I never run out till execute

[mild thunder]

Nerf tactician proc chance

Add in some extra abilities like heroic strike

Add slam to storm of swords

[mild thunder]

Yea this too, iirc thunder clap is a guaranteed tactician proc

[lavish quest]

Basically, think like 80% chance at least

[vivid pumice]

So I can just take slam off my bar again

[dense herald]

Make ur next auto attack do more dmg?

[vivid pumice]

Remember when slam had a cast time? That was wild

[dense herald]

Aye that could work if u didnt autoattack every second nowadays

[lavish quest]

Unironically, yes. Just Thunderclap instead, or rend if you're desperate. Who cares slam doesn't do dmg anyways

[vivid pumice]

I want that Ignite Blade spell we had for exactly one alpha patch in bfa

[dense herald]

Crits for like 100k in pvp

[lavish quest]

Taking like every slam talent are we?

[dense herald]

I meant to say in pve im dumb

But ye i have the slam talents in the general warrior tree taken

[mild thunder]

If you waste 5 talent points maybe

[lavish quest]

Don't remember what my pve arms build has and doesn't have. I tank unless I can't tbh really