pvp

[mild thunder]

^

[scarlet flame]

nah just go druid bro

[sharp meteor]

[scarlet flame]

lol

this my rsham in 2s now wtf

105k from him lmfao

[fallen solar]

I’m excited for ele tier set

Already pumped. Now gonna pump more

[paper meteor]

do we know what tier pice we arent wearing yet?

[scarlet flame]

for 2 piece do you need tclap or is just "like tclap"

[fallen estuary]

god i hope to christ they nerf the fuck out of DHs and dks

i did a random bg and some dk in s2 gear spammed death coil on me and fucking killed me like tf how?

Festering wound and Dcoil was at the top of his chart

[violet fossil]

don’t you take like 70% more dam

[wheat jay]

He does

[vapid tartan]

have u tried not leaping into charge first global

[scarlet flame]

i have never once done that lmao

[vapid tartan]

then u should easily be able to keep uptime on majority of classes

unless healer is sitting starting room

[scarlet flame]

idk who you're playing with or against but that just not happening in pugs bro

let alone 2s

i can say resto shamans fucking pump

[vapid tartan]

unless its a frost mage or double casters should be fine in general

play pillars, you dont need to chase people either

[scarlet flame]

in 2s if there is 1 caster and healer you get cucked for at least 60% of the arena

and dks and ret paladins can also kite you because you can't slow them

rogues also just run around forever

the only classes that can't easily get away from you is WW and other warriors lmao

[vapid tartan]

we have

2 charges and a leap

slows and cc

[scarlet flame]

doesn't stop you from being slowed

by 70%

all the time

against classes

that can't be slowed back

[vapid tartan]

they are also slowed all the time if u hamstring or aoe slow

[scarlet flame]

dks can't be slowed

rets have freedom

mages have 200 ways to get away

[vapid tartan]

2x charges a leap intervene

[scarlet flame]

warlocks can't be slowed with portal talent

yeah it must be my healer not standing on their team to let me vene to them

[vapid tartan]

if a ret is kiting you and not running at your healer

then why does it matter

xd

[scarlet flame]

because they're both at 10% hp and i have no gap closers in 70% damp and they win because the ret paladin can dps me from 30 yards away and i can't

[vapid tartan]

thats a positioning issue

track freedom

[scarlet flame]

yeah bro sure

[vapid tartan]

and when its off cd have a charge or leap

its not that hard

[scarlet flame]

yeah clearly bud

just try 200x harder than any other class to win

[vapid tartan]

works at 2500, maybe i gotta climb more to face these kiting rets tho

[scarlet flame]

yup you're puging with random people who've never been higher than 1600 in 2s at 2500

[vapid tartan]

wait pressing op and ms while watching positioning is harder than any other class now?

[scarlet flame]

you dont get to press op and ms while watching positioning because you're just afk walking at people most of the round

so you really only watch where you're standing

and idk where you're getting this difficulty thing about watching where you're standing i never said anything regarding it being hard

im saying its fucking annoying and not fun

when every other class has the option to just go away and deal damage

[vapid tartan]

which should give u plenty of time to track freedom and save one of ur 99 tools to stop it

[scarlet flame]

yup i charge their freedom they donkey away, i leap to catch back up their druid roots me, i BS the root but the paladin has freedom once again so i charge and it keeps going and going

it has nothing to do with it being hard or skill issue

its dogshit gameplay

dk goes "ill just chains you then hit my movement increase and slow immune button that i have 2 charges of"

[vapid tartan]

u are aware we also have a movement slow

[scarlet flame]

its very nice being able to rely on your healer to stop you from getting CC'd to i bet

[vapid tartan]

with 2 bladestorms

[elder island]

Soooo, grab 2 pc tier or save for weapon?

[scarlet flame]

i am also aware that it literally doesn't work on half the classes in the game

[scarlet flame]

i got 2pc because its cool

[elder island]

Prob ideal to wait for vault huh

[vapid tartan]

god forbid we have to use our 3 movement spells, possibly double intervene, fear, and 2 stuns efficiently

[scarlet flame]

god forbid other classes dont have to think about using their abilities at all whatsoever because after they use them they're slow immune with movement speed increases

[vapid tartan]

if u wanna push now get 2pc, if u dont care about pushing week1 probably save till vault

[elder island]

ima just snag 18hundo then wait til reset

i think

[vapid tartan]

the only class with less buttons than us is fury warr or ret

not a good argument

[simple rock]

fistweaver

[scarlet flame]

except warlocks can port in stuns, be slow immune after, and have it on a 15s CD, ignoring the fact healers also have roots and slows

ret paladins have 2 freedoms and 2 chargers

[vapid tartan]

and we have 2 bladestorms 3 gap closers

point?

[scarlet flame]

dks have 2 charges of deaths advance or w.e tf its called that makes them slow and knockback immune while giving them MS

DK can grip both bladestorms?

shaman can totem you?

[vapid tartan]

if the dk is gripping u how can he kite u

u can also

kill the totem

[fallen solar]

Guys. My BM hunter is already almost 1800 with a few games played. They hot fixed something today apparently

[vapid tartan]

that tells me enough xd

[scarlet flame]

yes i can kill the totem lmfao

except BS doesn't kill the totem so you have to cancel it to kill it

[fallen solar]

Wrong thread

[scarlet flame]

which removes the point of BS in the first place

because you're back to square 1

unless you have magic macros that insta target any totem in the game

[vapid tartan]

try setting up ur nameplates

it makes swapping to it easier

[scarlet flame]

nameplates are set up

i can see the totem nameplate just fine lmao

[vapid tartan]

a single rsham totem

[scarlet flame]

you aren't clicking it in .2 seconds to kill it instantly

[vapid tartan]

is not gonna make the enemy team unkilable

or unkitable

[scarlet flame]

no, but the 200 roots and slows they have makes it not fun to play the game

again bro

it has nothing to do with making them unkillable

or hard to fight

its not fun gameplay

thats my point

[vapid tartan]

ok so maybe use ur other bladestorm and 3 movement spells?

[scarlet flame]

idk why you keep bringing it back to being hard, ive never said it was hard once

my other BS thats avatar, thats already a root break

charge can also be rooted mid movement

[vapid tartan]

idk man sounds like u just wanna complain about losing rather than try to figure out solutions

all of the things u listed other than frost mage

are very outplayable

[scarlet flame]

i didn't lose the games i complained about

idk why you have selective reading or some shit

but again not once said it was hard

its fucking annoying

again

its annoying

has literally nothing to do with difficutly or losing games or whatever else you want to make up

[vapid tartan]

u literally said you have to try 200x harder than other classes

xd

[scarlet flame]

that makes it hard?

or difficult?

[vapid tartan]

i would assume trying 200x harder than someone else makes something difficult

yea

[scarlet flame]

i wouldn't

[stable siren]

i feel like i dont deal very bursty damage right now compraed 2 other classes

[scarlet flame]

burst damage is nice

[stable siren]

tried a game without sharpen it felt yucky

[scarlet flame]

okay well thats why

[stable siren]

i feel good below 35 but just feel like a wet noodle compared 2 the hunters and dhs out tehre

fought an arcane mage i blink once irl they blinked twice in game

[vapid tartan]

arcane is rough matchup

youll never catch a good one really

[stable siren]

eah had a arcane boomy match

was so bad choase mage 2 stop polly or chase boomy to stop cyclone

somehow won one of them

[vapid tartan]

yea only thing u can do there is go closest really and try to play pillars

if ur healer doesnt push in with u ur kinda fucked

[stable siren]

healers are skitish right now

probably need a few more games to get comfy

but tons of em playing deep behind and get suprised when there an easy swap

or getting dragged out to middle

pally feels really easy to beat up right now but by god hitting a priest or druid is bad, ive hit softer rocks

not sure how i feel about safeguard in solo, it is very nice to just bounce around the map, but deff feels like people arnt popping anything else when its on them and are suprised when they fall over maybe ill play battlefield commander instead

that or ill just copy whatever mud tells us later

[fallen solar]

So UH better than arms this season

Change my mind

[fallen estuary]

Safeguard is lowkey op in shuffle

Way better than warbanner

[fallen solar]

Still doesn’t change my mind

[frank knoll]

UH better than Ret?

[fallen solar]

Na

UH better than arms

[frank knoll]

I just think Ret is easier to play with randos in shuffle

Even with Warrior having safeguard now

[stable siren]

yeah just did 2 rounds with commander

it feels really good specially root on howl

and rally being sprint

[bright stream]

yes

unholy RN is probably better than everything other than MM/Rogue/DH

MM has one outlier abil, rogues fully busty, and DH is slightly busted with DK on the heels

expect a week 1 or week 2 nerf

[green sequoia]

doin something wrong... today my dmg just feels absolutely not there

[spice hornet]

This

sub/outlaw, dh, disc, rdruid, and dk

that is all you will fight in higher mmr 2s and all you will see in higher mmr shuff

shits trash

[mild thunder]

Skill issue

[fallen solar]

I mean I just started pushing on my BM and I’m already almost 1800 and I’ve had a dk every game lol

DH though still flops

They must not be playing them right

[boreal veldt]

had a DH pump some nasty number in a melee cleave

[fallen solar]

Really wanting that MOG set for hunter. I don’t care about warriors. Shit looks like a can of chicken noodle soup

[boreal veldt]

this season is all about red sword

[bright stream]

any chance of getting this pinned?

[bright stream]

last season should have been about blue sword

and season 1 shoulda been about fire sword

:/

(tho fire axe and fire polarm were very sick)

[boreal veldt]

i think the only change i wish happened would be having executioner's precision be a self buff like OP

[green sequoia]

lol yea i can literally just do nothing today

its fuckng sad

[leaden lynx]

can you take a raid finder tier piece and make it pvp?

[leaden rune]

i literally just had some mage with a resto druid running around a pvp world quest kill solo players saying how bad people are in area chat Xd its like bro you have a healer these people dont of course you are going to beat people XD some people are spuds aye

also why is wowhead saying crit is main stat for arms?

[boreal veldt]

thats for pve

notice how vers is in the bot

[leaden rune]

even their pvp one says crit 2nd

anyone know the best place to get a arms build?

not sure if wowhead is the best place for talents XD

[sage raptor]

Someone is stuck in SL

[boreal veldt]

[leaden rune]

what?

ive been away for a while so any help is appreciated

[sage raptor]

I meant the author lol

[distant violet]

hows fury in pvp?

[boreal veldt]

ill link you my arms talents, it's a very simple build you can play with and change around

i just hit 1600 with it in solo so it's not terrible

[boreal veldt]

BcEAfuKaizEAgP2qANDB2hmf7DgWiERCJJpVKJBAAAAEEJCkEQENKJJkEKSEECQkAAAAAAAAQSkICIQDB

this build has wrecking/shattering throw in it, just incase of lock/disc/pally but it's not a mandatory talent in a lot of situations

[boreal veldt]

battlefield commander is dangerous, i'm getting addicted to breaking roots with rally

not the best use lmao

[low cobalt]

is first piece of conquest gear recommended still weapon?

[dreamy moat]

blitz version of deepwind gorge should just be the default version lol

[fallen solar]

Well if you want two pieces of tier I’d go with an armor piece

I’ve got the 2 set now

[low cobalt]

how do you get the other piece

[fallen solar]

1600 free piece and catalyst for the other piece

[low cobalt]

ah

[fallen solar]

Get 1600 rating for the free piece

[low cobalt]

need 1600 first then

lol

[fallen solar]

🫡

[low cobalt]

cant find any partners, same ol same ol

[fallen solar]

I got to 1800 on my hunter in a couple of hours

It’s easy right now

Solo shuffle

[low cobalt]

in 2s or

[fallen solar]

That is

[low cobalt]

oh

i c ok

[low cobalt]

which conquest piece u get to turn into set gear?

[fallen solar]

Hands

[tender tangle]

Should i recraft the boots to 489? Or are there better crafted pieces?

[low cobalt]

is honor just useless after you get the initial full honor set? like its pretty much just used to buy those tokens to send honor to alts?

[glacial shale]

This is the rush to 2k4 or NOTHING

4 hours deep into this, the only issue is queue time

Keep up the grind brothers

[violet fossil]

yeah

[low cobalt]

👍

[leaden rune]

You can buy throphys of strife with hp to

[pale minnow]

Isn't that limited tho?

What mmr u guys started with 0 cr on solo q? I wanna know if i'm getting cucked hard because i won't enter vs 2 tier andies with just honor gear on me that's huge advantage

[paper coyote]

@urban skiff hows ur grind going

[pure hornet]

1780

Tough i was 2200 highest

[leaden rune]

changed over to arms tonight from fury

feels algood good burst but holy does it have more buttons XD

[pure hornet]

Arms is the way

[leaden rune]

yeah its just getting use to all my extra things to push and having to move where all my ccs and stuns are

and sharpen blade

defs noticing the missing self heals

[bright stream]

yoooo you can do it son

[lavish quest]

When starting out do you guys get rid of old tier insta with the honor gear or keep the set bonus until you start to get some new tier?

[slender lion]

I got rid. Didn't notice a diff

It's an extra 26 ilvl on 4 big pieces of gear.

Main stat plus tertiary will more than likely make up the tier diff

[ivory moth]

hi guys, please can seomeone tell how to burst ? 😄 i mean blademaster torments is messing up everything about my 1 button macro 😄

arms/

my skill order is this avatar>colosus>dragon, its just feels weird when i pop avatar and bladdestorm comes in

[kindred viper]

Then don't run blademaster?

[tribal wedge]

it depends, in a cleave scenario (vs 2 melee, or 1 cast and 1 melee folowing you) you may warbreaker -> roar -> avatar and cleave them down.

If you are in a scenario where you can't cleave (2 caster or heal focused) you can do the same things if you think you are gonna be CC. Otherwise, i pref avatar alone, deal a bit of damage and slow them, and then WB -> roar, and burst.

[wanton vault]

whats the reason to use thunder clap in single target?

[ivory moth]

@tribal wedgeokay thx 😄

[pure hornet]

So you can clap his cheeks

Thunderclap does decent damage and u dont need to ficus to aply rend.works well with stealthed rogues

[tribal wedge]

• rend on pet may proc exec too

[bright stream]

didnt realise that like no ones hit 2400 as dk yet

O.o

[fallen estuary]

This, also you rend em as well makes it worse

[weak rivet]

Just coming back and gearing and have a question about the tier. So the first piece out of 2 I understand, you get that from a token at 1600. Easy. How do you get the other one? Like, what is the order of operations? Do I need to craft a piece with the 489 ilvl conquest ingredient and THEN turn it into tier at the catalyst? I guess I'm just trying to figure out what the source of the second piece is and in what order I need to do things to prevent wasting my materials.

[tribal wedge]

you take any piece of the set, and you can turn it with the catalyst. There is a quest around the foutain in valdraken who show you where is it

any conquest piece*

[weak rivet]

I guess I was under the impression the second tier set piece came from a crafted item because you get those 2 free trophies of conquest right off the bat and I assumed that's how I was seeing people with 2-set + a third conquest piece

[graceful pecan]

Anyone knows what is the best buy from conq gear atm?

Saw that there is a mark that you get at 1600 that gives you a free tier set?

[kindred viper]

Check stats of the tier and get the one you want

chest and gloves are haste/vers afaik

[graceful pecan]

Checking top players i've seen they all have gloves + legs, can you get legs too with the mark?

or only small thingy?

[bright stream]

any piece with mark

[graceful pecan]

perfect, thanks

[green sequoia]

Dhs n mages are my bane. I just can’t do anything to them

[pine pine]

Just for clarification, you cannot turn crafted gear into tier at all. Crafting is solely for off set pieces and embellishments

[fickle forge]

Kill them

[weak rivet]

thank you for the response, I read that somewhere after I commented -- so I guess what people are doing is buying 2 pieces of conquest gear, converting 1 to tier, and then pairing that 1 piece with a second from the token they get at 1600

[pine pine]

Yes exactly. Then they're taking their trophy from the weekly and crafting a piece for 3 max ilvl pieces

[weak rivet]

would it not be worth holding onto the conquest to see what your vault gives you?

[pine pine]

It is absolutely worth. Chances are high you aren't getting dupes out of your first vault, but if you're trying to be as efficient as possible you can absolutely hold for next week to trade in your token and buy pieces when you know what you've claimed from vault without being punished much.

[weak rivet]

good deal, thank you, I think I'll hold because I don't think I want to risk it for a minor boost now over what may potentially be a pretty significant boost next week if things fall in place correctly

[elder island]

Something change with ignore pain? I don't see people running it atm

[weak rivet]

what rank is needed to assure highest pvp ilvl from the vault, is that also 1600?

[warm portal]

Wrong channel?
Its still very good in PvP
Think people will drop it in PvE because it doesn't proc tactician anymore

[elder island]

Nah, on the leaderboards 9/10 the top 10 had fueld by violdence when i checked this morning

for ss

[wanton vault]

all top players using ignore pain, double check it 😉

half of them running fbv additionally

[elder island]

Weird maybe they swapped it for m+ or something

wonder how good running both is atm

[faint pumice]

@elfin surge I was watching your vid https://youtu.be/x1CPr_71eTU?si=FgCb58xUhdh75i4_ and kinda can not catch it, do you press roar+avatar manually or is it a macro? Is it the best order roar>thunderclap>bladestorm?

I’ve always saved my roar to after bladestorm to have a hurricane’s bonus

[fickle forge]

Who the fuck made this lmao

[tribal wedge]

It cant be real ahahha

[urban skiff]

Still waiting for the next time kids sleep so I can play unhindered

[wheat jay]

Dh is fair and balanced hehe

[warm portal]

Was that an essence break sweep or did he just raw dog it

[lavish quest]

Tbf, that's prob how one would carry in the irls

[frank knoll]

Looks like he raw dogged it

[fickle forge]

If you chop wood, do you hold right below the head on the axe as well?

[lavish quest]

Hand may move down when the character swings it lol

And yes

[fickle forge]

My guy is def looking to break his hand

Anyone know if this thing is nerfed in PvP?

Looking to replace Sporecloak with something better

[urban skiff]

That's literally how you carry an axe until you're about to swing

[fickle forge]

This is how our character is going to hold the axe when he's going to swing though

[urban skiff]

Lariat is hella nerfed,

[fickle forge]

How much?

[urban skiff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/102x8m1/lariat_is_nerfed_in_pvp_psa/

[marble bone]

Its an oversized fist weapon

[fickle forge]

Eh, prob not amazing then

But that kinda makes the majority of embels complete ass

Maybe we go back to helmet

[urban skiff]

That's what I'm planning to do

Except helm stats are ass iirc

[fickle forge]

Just use boots only 🙏

Infurious locked into crit, but reflect dmg maybe worth it

[urban skiff]

I'm holding my second spark for a while probs

[lavish quest]

I've chopped far too much wood in my life, I'll be fine

[west mural]

seems to me that by the end of the season we'll have mostly crafted gear

[frank knoll]

Am I coping to think DH will be nerfed

There’s already DHs over 2400 in shuffle

[tropic zodiac]

sorry yall, i dont see anything pinned here, can someone share a recommended Arms build for BGs ( pretty much random, with some rated tossed in)

[normal aurora]

I made Intervene macro for shuffle so i can Intervene party 1/2/3, but its not working correctly or idk, can someone help? Looks like party frames not showing who is party1 correctly. Sometimes i vein wrong target or it dont go off at all

[fickle forge]

No

DH is hella busted

[normal aurora]

I tried to filter party frames by group and by role, same shit over and over again

[low cobalt]

yea im actually having the most trouble with dh for some reason, i thought itd be locks or mages but its dh

[frank knoll]

Yeah last time they were this crazy was BfA

Doing so much damage they don’t even need to run MS

[fickle forge]

Ngl, they're stronger than BFA rn

[atomic orchid]

BFA DH…

https://tenor.com/view/vietnam-flashback-traumatized-cat-gif-7852054576948114551

[onyx marlin]

dh is complety out of hand

[thick reef]

With Blademasters Torment, is it best to have avatar macro’d with war breaker? I worry that I hit it mid gcd and it activates avatar, which then activates the free bladestorm, which makes warbreaker not go off. But I want the avatar damage gain with warbreaker. Am I missing something?

[urban skiff]

shuffle has no party3. Only player, party1, party2. You want your macro to say /use [@party1] intervene

[urban skiff]

You can avoid this problem by using a castsequence macro instead of macroing them straight together. Whether it's better for you depends on your playstyle

[thick reef]

Do you have an example of a cast sequence macro that would provide better functionality? I have always steered away from castsequence in the past, it sounds like it’s better to be deliberate about hitting warbreaker macro when nothing is on gcd.

[urban skiff]

/castsequence reset=10 ability1,ability2,etc

If you have to macro them together, the strength of a sequence is that you cannot trigger avatar before CS. The disadvantage is that you have to mash it to get both out and some absurd unlucky cc might land in between two keypresses.

If you ask top players they'll say never to macro anything together but I'm a firm believer that people should play however efficient/inefficient they want. They're adults and this is a video game, nobody gets hurt if you use a macro because you like it.

I use macros because I like to fill out my bars

[faint pumice]

What other useful macros do you use?

[urban skiff]

I have a combined charge/intervene but it's currently not behaving how i like.
almost all my main rotation abilities have a modifier I press with them to either hit my focus or swap target and hit my focus.

Or I can't tell if you're trying to be funny? But /use is the same as /cast but shorter

Some rotational abilities will put me in Berserker Stance before casting just so i don't accidentally nerf my Odyn's Fury by 20%

[faint pumice]

So I can create a macro that will roar>thunderclap>avatara with that /use reset=10 ability1,ability2,etc

I will be smacking those anyway in this order

[urban skiff]

yep

It will reset the order if you don't press anything for 10 seconds

shit just realized it was meant to be castsequence

[gentle depot]

dropping 2 pieces to 460 is prolly worth arms 4p in right?

[faint pumice]

I’ve used castsequence to change stances with one button, but it stopped working like a day or two ago. Now I am using:
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;[known:386164]!Battle Stance;[known:386196]!Berserker Stance

[dense herald]

What stats should i buy on arms

Mastery or haste

[urban skiff]

this the one I use for stances:
#showtooltip
/use [stance:2] !Defensive Stance
/use [spec:2,nostance:2] !Berserker Stance
/use [spec:1,nostance:2] !Battle Stance

Yours is maybe more elegant. Mine also puts me in stance in case I for some reason am removed from all stances.

[umbral blaze]

In order to save on keybindings, can I make a Cast sequence macro for arena targets? Something I can spam to cycle through them for pummel, or storm bolt? If anybody calls me stupid, I challenge them to Mak’gora

[urban skiff]

Yes, as long as there are only 3 targets, and you'll need a separate one for 2s

[wheat jay]

No idea

Man just died

And I was at like 3% when it hit xD

[kindred viper]

ow

[umbral blaze]

Ok. I’ll try it. Thx man

[urban skiff]

I don't have a way of testing right this minute but it should be something like:
/target [@arena3] arena1
/target [@arena1] arena2
/target [@arena2] arena3

[umbral blaze]

Ok I’ll try it after work

[urban skiff]

There's a 50/50 chance it'll work, i can't remember how target macros work specifically but it should only execute the applicable line each press

[umbral blaze]

Anything is better than what I’m doing now, which is tab and panic

[slender lion]

super high vers? lol

[silk mortar]

does arms go full tier or 2p?

[tribal wedge]

full

[faint pumice]

@urban skiff so let’s say I’m training target1, target2 comes closer, I am pressing this macro with rend and target2 will be targeted and rended?
Or is there an easier macro that will apply rend to the closest enemy that is not my target?
P.s. not a bannable one

[boreal veldt]

this is why i used my 1600 token on chest instead of legs, vers way high anyway

[brazen citrus]

skullsplitter feels rlly good rn men

[fallen estuary]

Might be op asf for 4 set arms

Skullsplitter a sweeping strikes and youll have SDs for dayz

[brazen citrus]

i think it owns as 2 set too

[azure willow]

which piece of gear do we take for tier set , legs / hand / x / x ?

[fallen estuary]

Any pce that has haste on it lmao

[brazen citrus]

i am a mastery arms believer

i will never stack haste ever in my life

haste boring

mastery big number fun

[slender lion]

haste feels so good

also, can we nerf dh?

[pale minnow]

bruh this is so fucking trash system

[sharp meteor]

What's the issue?

[pale minnow]

0 cr 2k mmr vs peoplee witth 4 purples while I'm honor gear

[sharp meteor]

The season started two days ago.

[gentle depot]

^

[sharp meteor]

You have plenty of time to catch up.

[brazen citrus]

woah relax fox

that isnt like u fr

😦

[pale minnow]

noone gives a f when it started i should start with equally geared people not with people on 2k cr and higher gear

[sharp meteor]

So true.

[sharp meteor]

Gear isn't factored into matchmaking for obvious reasons.

also we effectively had a hard gear wipe TWO DAYS AGO.

[gentle depot]

sir if you think a few ilvls makes the difference youre delusional

[brazen citrus]

bro just play and go next

isnt a big deal

[sharp meteor]

You get 2 epic trophies for playing a skirm, we have 1.5 sparks now, and nobody is behind on trophies of strife cos they got reset

This is literally

the best time

to hop in

[pale minnow]

you are dumb af that's for sure

[pale minnow]

yah bro u still don't get me

[brazen citrus]

no need to be mean king

[gentle depot]

1700 player mentality its not me its the gear

[analog merlin]

just blame healers it's easier

[pale minnow]

people are so high iq here they don't seem to understand the issue here cba holy shit

[brazen citrus]

still no need for u to b mean 😦

[pale minnow]

and this guy is straight up pathetic, struggle to strike with some shit insults, you are cringe my guy, my current mmr is higher then your whole existance

[gentle depot]

im sure bud

go next

[pale minnow]

i'am mean to stupidity man , i fucking hate when people play smart, talk random shit then i'm wasting my time even talking to them

[brazen citrus]

in some ppls eyes ur the one being silly

not them

[pale minnow]

thing is idgf, won't change the fact that people on 2k mmr with 0cr start from massive disadvantage, i don't care about the game itself that i played because I handle it perfectly fine, but if a new player joins and he'll go 0/6 because of this shit system then you'll cry that the game drops in noobs in your lobby literally selling your game

[vapid tartan]

P sure a new player gets 1500 mmr right?

[brazen citrus]

isnt mmr somewhat carried over from the previous seas?

[vapid tartan]

It’s higher if you played previous season

[brazen citrus]

if hes going 0/6 just play better to make sure he wins the rounds

play better idk king

u can always do more

like ur playing cracked s tier spec

just put him on ur back

[pale minnow]

and let alone saying that "gEaR dOn't MaTtEr" is dumb ,reform your head a bit, it's season start yes 0 cr player has honor gear while a player at 2k has already 2 tier pieces, 1 crafted item, 1 thropy

[brazen citrus]

if u rlly think its an issue that honor geared players get in lobbies with 2 set players

then ur being silly

its literally week 1 not everyone has had a chance to play

if u want 30 min qs to go to 2 hour qs

then say that

[frank knoll]

Give it like another week and they’ll get nerfed
I might level mine and have fun while it lasts

[pale minnow]

it's start of the season as you said you are talking against yourself with this statement

not everyone is gonna play day 1

[native ether]

do we not take shoulders or helmet as tier?

[slender rock]

did something change from before tuesday reset? i went from doing like 60-70k dps in shuffles to doing 45 and i upgraded all my nontier slots to honor gear so im a higher ilvl

as arms

i full burst someone and their hp doesnt even move

[green sequoia]

I felt like I did no dmg yesterday to. But I chalked it up to I suck lol

[native ether]

ur not alone

[green sequoia]

Okay makes more sense then

[urban skiff]

I guess try this
/cleartarget
/use rend
/targetlasttarget

It won't differentiate between current target and target 2 approaching but it'll cast on whatever is in front of you at the time?

Yo where did the BGB go?

[leaden lynx]

where blitz? :<

[elfin surge]

@green sequoia that you in pfp?

[urban skiff]

why queue so long

[rotund trellis]

16 min = long? lol

[frank knoll]

Yea I’m in gear and my MS with Csmash and Avatar crits for like 150k tops..

I feel like it should be doing more than that?

[urban skiff]

maybe we got hit with the hotfix to hunter pet damage scaling by weapon ilvl? lol

[worthy fern]

@pale minnow I know it’s frustrating but your mmr went up so as long as you keep at least getting 3 in those lobbies your rating is going to shoot up quick

Better that than stuck in Mordor

[green sequoia]

Yea lol why?

I feel weaker in game bc I’m too small in real life I guess haha

[elfin surge]

nice

[green sequoia]

Thanks homie

I do competitive armwrestling, recovering from state tournament currently

[slender rock]

yeah even on dummies with double buff overpower and execute and all my cds rolling i crit for 200k in full honor, and thats on a target dummy

200k mortal crits* ^

[river walrus]

I played my arms warrior and did not see any big MS numbers like some people said. Feels strong overall but nowhere close to 200k-250k MS

[slender lion]

ive done a 177k one so far in 2s

[green sequoia]

Tuesday I did 200k+ but yesterday I had like nothing

Idk

@elfin surge didn’t y’all go like 25-1 on Tuesday with tsg? And then Have harder time yesterday also? Did you notice anything

[cyan sluice]

APEX complaining about a huge advantage haha

It's amazing when mmr is high like that, you climb so easy and quick

Come in on a new character without inflated mmr and get stuck so low

[brazen citrus]

the gap in gear rn doesnt matter genuinely

play better

and beat them

[green sequoia]

Gear isn’t just huge right now

[elfin surge]

went 10-3 yesterday, healer had bad internet at his hotel

[mild thunder]

Just play thunder clap

[pale minnow]

I came in also with an alt and I'm 1.9 mmr on it for 0 reason, it has no xp bigger than 2.1 in df s1

[ripe imp]

What crafted items u going for?

[sharp meteor]

Kind of hard to get stuck low on anything other than a tank.

[spice hornet]

Why you playing wow from your penthouse in Bora Bora?

[pale minnow]

Better players will do okay but new players who try harded for 2.1 will suffer hard

[green sequoia]

Lol yea he swapped to his phone or whatever when I was watching haha

[elfin surge]

Used airpods mic, played on a laptop using his phones hotspot

[green sequoia]

Yup LOL he’s so good though. Like beyond

[slender rock]

yeah dude idk wtf happened but now i just cant do anything ive gone 0-6 in all my solo shuffles today, in one instance the lock had no defeensives and i dropped my full burst while they were los AND full healer clone and i couldnt kill, this just feels fucking awful to me, like just improved lock rock savced him from all my cds

[green sequoia]

Yuuuup lol same shit happened to me. Maybe I’m just facing too good of people or some shit but it was horrid yesterday

[dense herald]

Why r ppl running no crit

Feels terrible

[magic wing]

R1 glads

Wait for them to climb up on mains and alts

[ripe imp]

bro whenever i see someone with gladiator enchant on wep i know im in for a good game

[spice hornet]

?

[spice hornet]

Cuz it got nerfed a lot and yes it does feel terrible

@elfin surge I do not recommend queueing today, Orchillez is online

[fallen solar]

I only play at work on my laptop and on my phones mobile hotspot and I’m pushing 2300 mmr slapping these kids with high speed internet and high end PCs

[elfin surge]

I only play at work on my laptop and on my phones mobile hotspot and I’m pushing 2300 mmr slapping these kids with high speed internet and high end PCs

[fallen solar]

Feels good

Proof you don’t need a gaming chair to be good

[urban skiff]

sounds like you need to play more fury

[slender rock]

I’d rather uninstall than play that spec 😂

[green sequoia]

Sameeeeee

I’d rather play prot

🤣🤣

[urban skiff]

I already called it but fury gonna be sleeper S+ tier

MARK MY WORDS

[slender lion]

aint too bad

190k executes tho

[slender rock]

190k executes as fury? thast the same as arms, isnt it usually less?

[frank knoll]

Yeah fury fucks

Also another sleeper
Demo lock

[brazen citrus]

it isnt sleeper

its cracked

[finite cape]

Hey guys, after you get all the reagents for the boots of impunity, do you need to add additional reagents?

[rotund trellis]

pvp activities and quests

for the spark. rest is crafting reagents

[finite cape]

yeah but the first one says infuse with power

when i google it i find nothing

[rotund trellis]

DH are disgusting btw

[frank knoll]

I’d give it like one more week

[wheat jay]

[river walrus]

They all making fun now but they will switch to fury once 4 piece is rolling. Consistent single target damage will be obscene

[rotund trellis]

2v2, 4 minutes arena, druid casts cyc ONCE ffs

I need to choose my partners better jfc

also disc is unkillable lol

[weak rivet]

other than the normal mats you just need to put in the spark and the conquest item that makes the level increase in PVP

[river walrus]

Disc is unkillable but, they do run out of mana fast

[rotund trellis]

that's true in 3s maybe, in 2s they're always pseudo ok

[river walrus]

Hmmmm maybe. I don't play much 2s. Mostly SS and occasionally 3s

[rotund trellis]

other than that I'm having a blast with arms. it's feels so good

[mild ember]

@seifcham yes.

[green sequoia]

Wait fist weavers are getting buffs?

[brazen citrus]

ive had more success training disc than hitting thr partner

specifically in 2s

[sage raptor]

How do you make kyrian spear more warrior?

Less kyrian

[rare oak]

When are they going to stop giving mages the ability to blink out of every stun, slow, root or otherwise.

Or just casters in general i guess.

I feel like I can't do shit against wizard cleaves.

[spice hornet]

mud blizzy reveal when?

glizzy

[rare oak]

Is this consistent or what, do we just have disadvantages against mages/warlocks at the moment?

[obsidian loom]

why cant i use spark trophies yet?

[mild thunder]

He already did

Last night to me on a private call

[spice hornet]

was it big?

[mild thunder]

He calls it ashkandi

I wasn’t disappointed

[spice hornet]

😋

[scarlet flame]

Nah it’s just a skill issue use your bladestorms and rally and 2 charges and leap

[mild thunder]

His next YouTube video is gonna be Arms vs Survival Glizzy Fight (Who’s Bigger!!)

Sorry, biggah for the American audience

[rare oak]

Thanks for the helpful insight.

[scarlet flame]

No one in the us says biggah

[scarlet flame]

It was sarcasm sorry

[mild thunder]

I heard you got arrested for saying hard Rs

[scarlet flame]

Me?

[mild thunder]

Anyone in America

[scarlet flame]

You can’t get arrested for saying that

[mild thunder]

Hard R = life sentence

[scarlet flame]

You’ll get your shit kicked in tho

[mild thunder]

That’s why @spice hornet got in trouble for saying the hardest R (retardd)

[scarlet flame]

why is this named anda

[spice hornet]

who has the most hard R words said in this channel

its gotta be @mild thunder

hes aussie

[mild thunder]

And I meant every goddamn one

[scarlet flame]

I do too

[bright stream]

A man of few words, most of them Rs, with a cult following

does that make all your GalaXs Galatards?

probably

[sage raptor]

The irony

[bright stream]

I think its fitting

keeps you guys humble ya know?

[rotund trellis]

well obv you go healer in 2s

unless you get a...frost dk lol

[bright stream]

against casters this would be almost exclusively a throw

varies against rest of the cast

[rotund trellis]

mage and lock I go caster. hunter I see how it goes and try to LOS them as I kill heals

but yeah it depends on the matchup

[bright stream]

only healer that is worth going in 2s over a dps as ur main target are priests

everything else will get away from you if you play at a reasonable rating

like rogue priest? priest gonna be a good choice

lock shaman? you go lock

basically, you've gotta put your interupt where its gonna have value

[spice hornet]

glad to see another season of fistweaver/aug/x comps

[mild thunder]

Glad to see another season of ret/warr/fw comps

But yea fr there just hasn’t been any actual tuning yet, it’s dumb

And pve comps got a huge buff with the trinket change

[scarlet flame]

I’m just happy that for every caster cleave that tilts me the casters get zugged by ret war and cry just as much

[mild thunder]

Nah man

I want setup comps to rule

[graceful nacelle]

is the slam build not very liked in pvp?

[mild thunder]

Slam is bad

[graceful nacelle]

really they been hitting 100k a hit

[mild thunder]

So… as much as mortal strike in season 1?

The only reason people sometimes play around slam in pve is to feed ToM

But you don’t run ToM in PvP, so there’s no reason to ever press slam

[graceful nacelle]

ty

[bright stream]

I think I press it on the odd occasion

maybe to stomp a 5hp totem?

its like once a day at most though

[rare oak]

So

Is arms good or not I feel like I hit like a noodle

[spice hornet]

@mild thunder can you reccomend me any builds? plz n Ty

[mild thunder]

No

[scarlet flame]

warrior is pretty fun in BGs

[bright stream]

@mild thunder top 20 now

top 10 inc

[pale minnow]

Congratz👏

Pisses me off that i got 3 h to play a day in 2 days i played 5 solo q games since i wait more then i play....

[slender lion]

Sorry should of clarified I was arms lol. The 185k was an MS

[bright stream]

new slappy hands dropped

[mild thunder]

That’s what I use for @spice hornet ‘s mum

She loves them abominable limbs ong fr fr

[spice hornet]

yeah a diseased green scrawny little hand sounds about right to describe you

degenerate aussie

comptuer screen tan

every rogue spec is broken

[mild thunder]

Can Americans even find their dicks beneath all that belly?

[spice hornet]

no bc we cut them off in elementary school

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/lick-peter-griffin-family-guy-gif-16909024

Bro is built like Peter griffin

[mild thunder]

[fickle forge]

Scuffle bad

[knotty atlas]

[mild thunder]

It’s a fake screenshot

[pure hornet]

😂😂😂😂😂

[glacial shale]

How does the enchant look like ?

I mean the illusion

didn't get a glimpse yet 😦

Ah nvm, it's just a visual enhancement to the sets

[thick reef]

idm it not as good as shadowflame from last szn tho

[idle falcon]

should i use annighlator build with tier set or still slaughtering strikes?

[wispy drum]

Enchant built for MW monks.

[idle falcon]

cause i like annighalator build

[paper coyote]

Fair

[marble bone]

fuck ye, my first big boy MS

(also first arena solo shuffle this season)

[tired loom]

2-piece prio, weapon, or wait for vault?

[marble bone]

think it kinda depends on how much you want to push this week, personally I'm waiting for the vault to see what I get there

reason being I wont have much time to play this week

[tired loom]

I'll probably wait then and work on other toons. Don't really want to push past 1600 week one on the war

[faint pumice]

@elfin surge will you buy item for 525 CP since we now get the catalyst charge once two weeks?

[elfin surge]

not buying anything until next week

[ripe imp]

What pvp item u craft?

[bright stream]

its pretty mediocre

I'll get some shots

cool if you're healer I suppose

[ripe imp]

im confused, every warrior i check on the solo shuffle armory have tier leg/gloves from new raid already. how is that possible?

[bright stream]

1600 token + buy 1

[ripe imp]

oh you get one free at 1600?

did not know that

[bright stream]

very mistweaver/rdruid/rsham

[green anchor]

lol

[ripe imp]

??? wtf is that ugly sparkle

[river walrus]

Smart. If you get lucky with vault next week you might get tier piece or weapon

[shy aurora]

is spear super bad?

[bright stream]

still better than most of the SLands garbage

I mean how do you even follow primal storm and shadowflame?

literally the two best looking ever put into the game

[river walrus]

I am not a big fan of weapon illusions

[bright stream]

I havent really used them much except for some of the less intrusive ones

[glacial shale]

It does look pretty bad

[bright stream]

but having primal storm basically BIS until they release a frost/light blue one

[ripe imp]

Glorious Tyranny???

[bright stream]

shadowflame>tyranny imo

[marble bone]

boots

[ripe imp]

so infurious warboots and then dont use the 2nd trophy at all?

ah nvm i forgot u gotta use a spark for pvp stuff aswell

[river walrus]

Also, isn't majority of melee going to use the crafted helm? I forgot the name but it provides a shield

[bright stream]

no idea, think people are worried it'll get gutted

I should have made it instead of ring

absolutely trolling myself

[ripe imp]

1k public workorder lol

ppl charging 10k in tradechat lol

[wheat moon]

got it for 69 gold

[marble bone]

nice

[wheat moon]

[ripe imp]

i dont understand how crafting works in DF and im to afraid to ask

materials goes in, item comes out

[marble bone]

pretty much

so someone needs to unlock recipes, get skill points etc to craft the best items. You either send out a public order (the anyone who can make it will try it), or a pesonal (best if you want a rank 5 item)

[cyan mauve]

just have someone in your guild do it

[ripe imp]

nah i lucked out and got it from public order 😄 also i got no guild just got back from classic ^^

[cyan mauve]

oh well in the future guild is probably the best way

don’t have to pay unless you want to just tip your mate for doing it

[ripe imp]

aye, hopefully i find a guild in a few weeks. just gonna pug norm/hc raid and get 2100 solo shuff first

[scenic oar]

Guys is there any guide out there to gear up? This is my first season this expansion (and for the past few expansions too..)
I bought all the honor gear available and I´ve read comments talking about ¨catalyst¨ and ¨trophies¨and stuff like that which I have no idea about... If any of you know a guide that can walk me through all that stuff would be great

[urban skiff]

https://youtu.be/G3TLmPq9OOs

[scenic oar]

thank you, let´s see

[scenic oar]

hmm okay... Will come back with my thesis next week lmao

[winter bay]

any idea what the text in red means please?

[small silo]

If you miss a week you can buy the trophy that you missed out on i beleive

[sharp meteor]

It means what it says.

If you fall behind then you can buy the ones you missed.

Like, the current cap is 8. If you don't do the quest this week then next week the cap is 16, but you can only earn 8 from the quest, but buy the remaining 8 with honor.

[winter bay]

ok that makes sense thx

[naive prawn]

whats the best spec in pvp right now?

[sharp meteor]

The season just started.

Just don't play Prot and you'll be fine.

[elfin surge]

finally

[urban skiff]

What's wrong with prot?

[naive prawn]

i mean the build

like what build is working the best

[winter bay]

and other question - is it worth buying honor gear weapon if PVE gear weapon is better - this whole "scaled to 476" thing, doesn't mean the baseline damage on the weapon will increase does it?

[elfin surge]

@naive prawn

[sharp meteor]

It's terrible.

[naive prawn]

whats the arrow for you swop those 2

[urban skiff]

heard people saying it has high damage and doesn't die?

[sharp meteor]

Hunters aren't people.

[elfin surge]

some like exhilarating blows but with 2 set i think executioners precision comes ahead

[winter bay]

image for earlier question - surely not worth buying honor gear weapon?

[elfin surge]

honor weapon way better

[urban skiff]

What tier pieces does arms want? I think fury foregoes shoulder

[winter bay]

because it scales in BGs?

[naive prawn]

@elfin surge this work in solo as well right?

[elfin surge]

Yes, much higher ilvl, way better stats and that pve weapon has been nerfed in pvp for a long time.

[scenic oar]

how do you know this?

[urban skiff]

I guess I look at stats and imagine what other stats other pieces might have?

[sharp meteor]

Look at the item level.

Honor weapon is above and beyond better in every way.

441 Ashkandur was trolling last season.

Actually turbo mega grief right now.

[fallen estuary]

Yea skullsplit + exe pres is going to be insane with 2 set

Cleave situations are gonna be insane with skullsplit with exe procs

[elfin surge]

sks is dead man

let it go

[fallen estuary]

Im still gonna try it out

[violet fossil]

et lookin mf

[fallen estuary]

Me sitting in me car in 5 degree weather slowly withering away

[winged tangle]

Let your rage warm you, brother.

[fallen estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-gif-23674110

Frost mages are in da aiiiirrrr

[violet fossil]

That was me but in the summer when it was 108 degrees

[fallen estuary]

Blame fire mages for that

[hot solstice]

Am I the only one who thinks dhs need some nerfs?

[bright cloak]

They definitely need some nerfs

[fallen estuary]

Ive been bitching about em for like 3 days straight now

[green moon]

there is any haste % we should aim for with 2p set ?

(arms)

[urban skiff]

fury kind of fire against frost

just enough root breakers and roots now that they have to run their cc script tighter to get to play

[lunar stump]

How are people getting 2 set already in first week? I understand one is from getting 1600, but where is the 2nd one from that always seems to be 450ilvl?

[urban skiff]

catalyst

[carmine grove]

U buy conquest piece and turn it into set with catalyst

[eternal hare]

yeah dh needs nerfs except the ones in my solo lobbies. buff those pls

cursed

[wheat jay]

Dh buffs pls

[urban skiff]

tbh dh needs buff

They're asking for a stronger back so their load is lighter.
Warriors ask for a wider back so they can pick up a heavier load

[scarlet sorrel]

I dont think i want more load 🙂

[green moon]

guys, i've seen some people running 2 463 versa/mastery rings because of socket, does it really worth?

[urban skiff]

use math to figure that out

state of arena

[wheat jay]

Warrior dh rogue?

[brazen citrus]

i swear it isnt dead q_q

[urban skiff]

genji is a ninja so yea, sub rog

[wheat jay]

I'll take sub over outlaw or assa any day of the week

[fallen solar]

If you not playing UH you not playing the game right

Imo. MS effects are pointless this early in the season

Arms irrelevant

[wheat jay]

Dumbest take i've seen in a long time

[fallen solar]

I mean. From what I’ve seen

Arms ain’t good right now. I haven’t played it yet this season.

They getting pooped on fast by DK

Damage to high for MS to play a part

[tribal wedge]

Damage are good and we are tanky af. Dont understand whats you want more

[fallen solar]

DH also

Guess I been playing against booty cheeks arms then

[brazen citrus]

arms is omega s tier

what do u mean

[elder island]

Arms is strong af right now

[elfin surge]

Arms is almost unplayable right now

[elder island]

Please buff

[fallen solar]

[urban skiff]

people complained earlier that they felt super nerfed compared to yesterday. Was that a real thing or just people being people?

[elfin surge]

I feel powerful

[fallen solar]

Arms looks more as a support class right now

[elder island]

Brother, how? We chunk

[fallen solar]

I mean sure it can hit hard. But bringing back two charges of intervene was huge

[tiny dagger]

real and fact

[fallen solar]

Shield the DK while the DK does the work

[brazen citrus]

double intervene is broken

[brazen citrus]

ur acting like arms isnt hitting for 200k rn

[elder island]

That doesn't make arms more of a utility class tho. That just means we bring more utility

[cinder sluice]

Sorry to interrupt your wonderful conversation but I have a question that torments me since the start of the season. May I proceed?

[brazen citrus]

arms has always brought utility idk how its breaking news

[elder island]

Yeah

[fallen solar]

arms is good. But if you want quick wins, you go UH

[cinder sluice]

Since the nerfs of embellishments what do we play now?

[urban skiff]

idk about that, i haven't felt threatened by UH so far and I'm fury

ferals and DH the only things that were legit scary to face (for me)

[brazen citrus]

arms is busted not good

[cinder sluice]

The new helm and the boots

[brazen citrus]

if dh didnt exist nerf warrior threads would be everywhere

[mild ember]

💯

[tiny dagger]

somebody on crck thinking arms slaps like that. stop cappin'. if a spec;s pushing that kinda damage it would def be on the nerfblock. so good think arms aint pumping like that.....

so ya know stop spreading such fake news

[brazen citrus]

idk thinking arms warrior isnt insane is crazy to me

dh is just god tier

doesnt mean arms isnt also busted

[urban skiff]

let's not act like casters, we can acknowledge when we're strong

[elfin surge]

Arms is bad. buff arms

[eternal hare]

^

[green sequoia]

^^

[ancient sonnet]

Whats the consensus for gearing? Save for wep next week? Go for 2pc now?

[marble bone]

Depends, if you want an edge now get 2pc now I guess

[ancient sonnet]

Or I suppose... save for wep. Buy upgraded bloody token gloves > tier. Get 2pc from 1600 then

[marble bone]

Is the conq cap the same next week? Aka 1350?

[ancient sonnet]

550

[marble bone]

Ah

I’ll save for next week anyways, wep is biggus

[urban skiff]

I'd wait for vault before making a major purchase

It's the difference between being first on 4set or not

Hell getting a weapon in vault before you spend strife is huge for overall ilvl

[robust hearth]

its a 22 second clip but this is how i imagine everyone in the pvp section of this discord is like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBPuq9u45vI&list=PL6nC8cBgjvOnzCRFa7f0iUdjYA0fGzgWy&index=8

dont be baited by the thumbnail

[urban skiff]

I don't get who this girl is

[robust hearth]

doesnt matter

the rest of the video matters

[urban skiff]

I can't tell what her motivation is

who is she as a person?

[robust hearth]

idfk from some anime

shes not important

[mossy turret]

I need some help with gearing & general play style. currently sitting at 433 feel like im getting wrecked

[urban skiff]

pretty sure the 433 is the problem

[mossy turret]

Just stating general

All i've got is full wpvp set. 2 conquest rings

so far

What should i focus on gear wise

[eternal hare]

honor gear will give you an ilvl bump over world pvp gear

[violet fossil]

focus on getting honor

[eternal hare]

at this point jsut stack conquest and wait for tuesday vault

[violet fossil]

cause everyone is gonna one shot you at 433

[mossy turret]

not really getting 1 shotted in pvp bgs rn just more wpvp

[violet fossil]

ah

[eternal hare]

wpvp is cancer if ur talking about BT farming

[mossy turret]

rbgs and what not im aight

[violet fossil]

everyone is gonna one shot you at 433

[mossy turret]

solo shuffle & arenas not great

[eternal hare]

get ur honor gear and enchant what u can afford to. will help

[mossy turret]

had the honor gear just figured the wpvp was better

clearly not

[violet fossil]

how’d you end up at 433 ilvl

[mossy turret]

magic

Dahlhalla is my toon

Stormrage

[eternal hare]

ur prolly referencing ur pve ilvl right

[mossy turret]

yea just that rn

pve

[violet fossil]

Ah

don’t reference your pve ilvl

[eternal hare]

yeah wpvp ilvl is 473, honor 476

[mossy turret]

so wpvp is 473

& arenas i guess

[violet fossil]

yeah

but wpvp is cancer

[mossy turret]

• whatever my 2 rings get me

[violet fossil]

cause people got buffs and stuff

[mossy turret]

yea ridiculous

[violet fossil]

And consumables

from honor vendor

[mossy turret]

So is it worth

leveling up the pve level of the honor gear?

or just save the flightstones * mats

[eternal hare]

u have some crit gear and crit is worse than mast/haste

not really worth unless ur just dumping stones

[mossy turret]

Im going to owkr on getting more mastery

and haste

[eternal hare]

ur trinkets are less than ideal, standard set is medallion and alacrity

[mossy turret]

been doing everything solo so just figuring this all out

annoyed ive waisted my time

[eternal hare]

uve not spent any conquest so u have that going for u

checkout builds on murlock.io

[mossy turret]

yea.

[eternal hare]

https://murlok.io/warrior/fury/solo

[mossy turret]

i tried fury it seems good

compared to arms ive been doing

[eternal hare]

arms is better but play what u like

[mossy turret]

ik arms has been great but curious with the new set

and you basically have to raid in order to get the tier sets

?

[eternal hare]

you can upgrade comperable gear to ur tier set w/ the catalyst

epic wpvp or conquest gear you can turn into tier

also vault

[mossy turret]

okay so do you need to upgrade it to the 8/8 in order to swap it from catalyst

all i can get so far is the molten chain belt

[eternal hare]

nope, just needs to be epic

[mossy turret]

which i dont think we use

[mossy yew]

will the pvp vault gear we get have gladiator pvp ilvl?

[eternal hare]

yeah should be the 489 gear

[mossy yew]

alright cool

[mossy turret]

so mast/haste?

[eternal hare]

yeah both are better than crit - you can see what people are running on mulok for the spec u wanna play

[mossy turret]

epic is what 4/8?

[ripe imp]

playins arms warr in shuffle with 2 frost mages in lobby was fun

[urban skiff]

even if it's not great, fury is still good. And it's a lot of fun

[mossy turret]

yeah fury just gave me more hp and more buttons decent dmg

[ripe imp]

Healer dmd me after game "you're the weakest link"

[urban skiff]

can't wait to wear this on a kt human

[eternal hare]

i live to chase mages around slowly dying

[mossy turret]

what gear should i farm to use for catalsy

[marble bone]

The conquest gear

[mossy turret]

Feel like i wasted alot of time so im just annoyed & overwhelmed

my own fault

[violet fossil]

it’s only been one week brother

[mossy turret]

its just that i have wasted time on wrong gear

[near delta]

How are we doing? Been on a work trip all week.

[brazen citrus]

arms insane as expected

[near delta]

Yup sounds right

[ripe imp]

I just got "instance aborted : instance not found" for my solo shuffle

[brazen citrus]

dh more insane tho

[ripe imp]

and then i got no-show debuff

did i lose like 0-6 mmr?

[brazen citrus]

rogue more insane dk insane too

[mossy turret]

dh is annoying

[near delta]

How is DH. Saw people complaining on reddit

[ripe imp]

"instance aborted: instance not found"

[brazen citrus]

its the best melee in the game

by a factor of 10

[near delta]

Is it like BFA DH level of broken?

[ripe imp]

WTF is going on with my game

[eternal hare]

dont do anything until next tuesday, try and just get ur 3 vault slots and conquest cap

[mossy turret]

yeah this week was wasted

need to drop the crit and put that into more hate & Mast and ill be ok

[eternal hare]

yeah and its just week 1 so ez recovery

[mossy turret]

yea

conquest i have rings so already spent

prob should just wait for weapon./

[eternal hare]

yeah always the best play in general, its usually the most stats

[mossy turret]

yea

[urban skiff]

switched to annie and holy hell, i forgot how much fun it is

almost feel like D4 barbarian now

[mossy turret]

does honor cap go up each week or no

conq i mean

[ripe imp]

yes

[mossy turret]

ty

[urban skiff]

conq goes up by 550 per week

[mossy turret]

yeah so ill just have to get my weapon this week i guess

[marble bone]

Well, it only goes up by 550, and the wep cost 1800, so if you spent this weeks conq you got some waiting to do

There’s always the wpvp weapon you can upgrade with Strife or w/e that is called

[eternal hare]

[marble bone]

Which is why many dont spend any conq week one, then buy the weapon unless you get it from Vault week two

[ripe imp]

my mmr got cooked by that "no show" bug. i went from 1.7 to 1.5 and a 5-1 gave me 67 rating Lol

[marble bone]

2pc seems strong though, so I see many of the top dogs allready got that eolling

[eternal hare]

Weapon in vault

[marble bone]

Ye I fucked up my mmr by playing dogshit early (havent played since s1, very early s2), so ended on 1.4k mmr.. will be a hard af grind

[ripe imp]

i was going 4-2 3-3 all my games, and 1 hour ago my internet suddenly got corona and let me play the game but not connect to new instances. i didnt know it happend so i got a 0-6 default loss because i got "instance aborted" its so cringe

[marble bone]

Got 8 rating from a 3-3, healer that decided to go 0 wins

Ye that sucks

[ripe imp]

going 5-1 in a EQUAL mmr lobby should give more than 56 mmv imo

[marble bone]

Absolutely

I get a 3-3 shoudlnt give much, but winning most of them doesnt seem rewarding enough, which is why I quit early s2, couldnt bother with the grind and most of the people I’ve played with over the years quit early DF

[ripe imp]

The way i've gotten it explained to me as a new return is to get 1800 and then park for a month while mmr inflates

[marble bone]

So grind hard early and wait?

[ripe imp]

well 1800 should only take 1 day unless u get a default 0-6 loss

[pure hornet]

How did you turn your gear blue?

[willow ibex]

Searched a little but maybe I'm blind. Do I break 4p with honor gear due to the ilvl difference or hold onto 4p for a bit as Arms Warrior?

[elfin surge]

last seasons 4 set?

[willow ibex]

Yeah

Im full conquest from last season

[elfin surge]

toss that shit

ilvl >

[willow ibex]

lol word

ty 🙂

[pale crow]

sup guys, back for this season with a doubt

is unhinged talent not worth it anymore?

nerfed in pvp maybe? ive seen almost nobody using it and no guides recomending it

[azure willow]

If i have already 2 tier set before using conquest , should i wait next week to buy weapon ?

[faint pumice]

I’ve seen top warriors started grinding pve to be able to get the legendary axe. Pve to pvp here we go again

[azure willow]

how do you grind it its not available yet lol

[quick sinew]

^

[sharp meteor]

I like the white/blue one.