pvp

[elfin surge]

yes

[green sequoia]

Lol we do have insane amount of vers right now…. Honestly thinking about making that helm next week if shoulder tier come up in vault haha

[green moon]

Wait, aren't we breaking set with shoulders?

[pure hornet]

How did you managed to do 3 items??

[elfin surge]

Crafted, Tier token, conquest vendor.

[normal aurora]

Bloody tokens gear goes into tier, 1600 gives u another piece and new spark is 3rd one

[normal aurora]

Didnt u create a tier piece from gear that comes for 100 ppl killed?

Its like 3 ilvl less then conq one, and it saves u conq for weapon

[rotund trellis]

I like this set a lot more than S2. It looks excellent

[normal aurora]

So its like 486 tier piece+tier piece for 1600 + crafted piece and we have 1350 conq saved for weapon on next week

[elfin surge]

nah i used conquest

i plan to buy wpvp weapon

[normal aurora]

And what if it will proc on chest?

😄

[urban skiff]

"It is absurd to divide warriors into good and bad. Warriors are either carriers or carryees" -Oscar Wilde, probably

[pure hornet]

But for crafted dont you need verdant throphy of conquest? Or you just upgraded the boots with honor crest?

[elfin surge]

you get 2 trophies for free

[pure hornet]

How

[elfin surge]

from a box after your first win

its a quest item

[pure hornet]

First win of?

Pvp?

Or?

[elfin surge]

yeah anything

i got mine from a skirm

this @pure hornet

[pure hornet]

Ty ill try

[hot bone]

whats the stat prio for arms warr?

[fallen estuary]

Mast-haste

Pmuch

Im goin fury so idk about teir set but im not going anni build it looks so fucking stupid

But i guess im dividing haste - crit with prior mastery

[magic wing]

Wtf

Its better than before

[fallen estuary]

Atleast 10-15% crit base for 4 set. Odyns fury is a haaard hitter and with those 3 BT critting that cds going down fast

[magic wing]

You press 3 buttons not 2

[fallen estuary]

Yea im divided on it

Anni this season i dont have to really stack haste since odyns will be near a 10 sec cd if i stack crit

But rb builds so fluid ngl

[urban skiff]

I miss playing annie build

RB might be very fluid but annie has room for ww talents to do a lot of cleave

[green sequoia]

You can also buy for 5k honor lol

[muted surge]

Too many for fury brain

[frank knoll]

Why do people hate anni so much

The only reason I played RB last season is cause anni didn’t do any damage

[green sequoia]

Lol either have you in here or sham cord can’t get away lunk haha jk

[magic wing]

I like anni

Its a very zug zug playstyle, real fury

[frank knoll]

[urban skiff]

What's the proper annie build now?

I can't figure out how much or little I should invest into slam/whirlwind talents

[ruby heron]

is there any way to get a free verdant trophy of conquest?

someone talked about something on a twitch chat but i did not understand

[green sequoia]

Yes you win a skirm or first rated match

Get a quest item

Turn in the quest to get trophy

[ruby heron]

ok thank you buddy

are we still using infurious boots for arms?

[green sequoia]

Yea

[ruby temple]

just cuz its in the fury tree

[elfin surge]

based

[muted surge]

why are the ss queues already 20 min

season ded

[sharp meteor]

Dps to healer ratio.

Could have 900,000 or 600 people in queue.

[muted surge]

ded game

[green sequoia]

20 mins is fast

Just sayin

Lol yesterday was sitting 45m-1.5hr

[magic wing]

Fast

[river walrus]

Anni build with tier set will be the go to.

Another possible build would be spear + ravager + raging blow stacking death wish for one shot but this is a bit of a set up and one trick

[marble bone]

Reroll healer, its needed 😉

[muted surge]

War only :<

[leaden rune]

Is this to much mastery? I’ve left haste at 20% because you gain shit tons when enraged. Opinions on my stats please 🫶🏼

[urban skiff]

Looks about same as mine. Full stacking mastery and haste where nothing else is possible

[warm portal]

Warrior healer spec when

[leaden rune]

Just out of curiosity what are the stats for arms? Are they mastery-haste to? Or

[urban skiff]

I think they just stack all haste

[glossy pine]

why is it not same as mine? got full honor gear and with mastery stacking i'm at like 40% mastery and 13% haste

[leaden rune]

Bruh some bgs I’ve hit 8m self healing

[urban skiff]

I'm planning to try out prot too before they nerf their damage.

[urban skiff]

are you using enchants and gems, and perhaps the on-use trinket instead of proc trinket?

[leaden rune]

I’m using mastery and haste gems on necklace and mastery enchants on rings

[urban skiff]

I think what you're comparing is non-pvp stats. Sticky has upgraded their gear pve ilvl

[glossy pine]

im using versa gems and enchants and I use equip trinket and health trinket since im human

[leaden rune]

This is also my stats when in PvP

I took the screen shot in a bg

[frank knoll]

Gonna be the same story this season because they haven’t addressed any issues really

[muted surge]

Didnt they add something for heals?

[glossy pine]

oh it goes to 16% haste and 48% mast in pvp if thats what you were comparing

[frank knoll]

90 sec trinket

People are mad about the way healer mmr works and stuff

[leaden rune]

Yes I’m only focusing on my stats when I’m in PvP which are my stats in the picture but enraged will make my haste go to 40%

[glossy pine]

playing annhi build?

[urban skiff]

as far as i remember, we only stopped using annie build because the tier set bonus, right?

[glossy pine]

you mean last season?

[urban skiff]

yea

[gentle depot]

skullsplitter build trolling rn?

[elfin surge]

Led paint is bad for you. What are we at right now, 4 patches full of buffs for your class at this point? Warrior was never bad. You and the rest of the forum greys made troll post after troll post and got the class buffed beyond reason.

Hello warrior main lul

[marble bone]

Just microdose the ledpaint, then it isnt bad

[elfin surge]

@thick reef here we go

[magic wing]

hey hey

[gentle depot]

lol

[magic wing]

chill with the "beyond reason"

that is DH

[pure hornet]

Can i get the token for 1600 in 2v2?

[elfin surge]

ya

@knotty atlas

[frank knoll]

Return of the Mack (Calibri)

[elfin surge]

@tribal holly

[green sequoia]

Get em outta here

[marble bone]

oh he didnt microdose at all, did he

[elfin surge]

o shit

[frank knoll]

Nick Gertz

[leaden rune]

The fucks this micro dose 😅

[knotty atlas]

What?

[pure hornet]

Great. I love 2v2. Prolly because i am still learning and in 2’s i can que instantly,where is shuffle we wait 30 min minimum, and in 3’s more skill is required

[scarlet barn]

Imma assume somebody got booted for degenerate takes

[knotty atlas]

[pure hornet]

Btw we should make under pvp, 2 subchats,one for arms,and one for fury. Dont know how people can take fury seriously…

[leaden rune]

Hey hey hey

My fury has been clapping some arms cheeks lately

[ruby temple]

wouldn't it be easier to just direct fury PVP players to the transmog channel, since fury is just cosmetic anyways.

[umbral blaze]

Most dominant Mud, can you please tell me is there a verse haste % soft cap. I’m wondering at which point I should aim for mastery. I humbly beg of you

[elfin surge]

late banned him

we coo

[umbral blaze]

Fury is fun in classic. Classic is god awful tho

[elfin surge]

idk im just going big haste rn

[umbral blaze]

Ok me too. I expect the same results as your 25-1 3’s last night

[urban skiff]

Too busy swinging our dicks around to worry about being meta

[elfin surge]

[pure hornet]

Did anyone notice we can get 5k+ blood token in tag farm,and we can buy trophy of strife with honor. Does it mean we can make 486 gear if we farm nonstop?

[leaden rune]

Yes

Theoretically

[pure hornet]

Nice

[urban skiff]

You can only buy strife with honor as a catchup mechanic.

[pure hornet]

Catch what mechanic? I buy to get 486 gear.it does not sound like caychup.. sound more like high end gear shyt

[urban skiff]

The trophy of strife you can buy, is only for when you missed the weekly quest. Doesn't let you go beyond 8 this week.

Farming full 486 will take many weeks

[pure hornet]

Hmm

Good to know.ill test it tough

Just to farm a bit more honor

[urban skiff]

I promise, if it worked like that it would've been in every youtuber and streamer's thumbnail since yesterday. "DO THIS TO INSTANTLY FULL GEAR"

still good to do your own test

[pure hornet]

At least next week can i buy weapon?

[urban skiff]

yep!

[pure hornet]

With 14 thropy?

Hmm nice

Still huge

[urban skiff]

You can buy weapon and wrist

iirc

Daily reminder that we can use catalyst on strife gear

[pure hornet]

Uber

[urban skiff]

Slightly lower ilvl, but if the piece has worse secondaries it might be worth to save conq for better optimized pieces first and then save up catalyst charges

[leaden rune]

486 is only 3ilvl under conquest gear

[urban skiff]

yup

as an example: I plan to use strife to buy shoulders, because they come with vers mastery = great stats for fury

when I need to upgrade something for 4set, i can upgrade them but they'll become crit / haste, which are bad

If I had used that conq instead I'd have a horribly itemized piece with 3 ilvls higher.

Looking more closely I can see shoulder is the one I want to keep as strife until I can use crafting to close the ilvl gap and keep vers/mastery allocation

[leaden lynx]

what's everyone's play for the emerald mark of mastery? wait til vault to make a choice?

[elfin surge]

I got legs

[green sequoia]

^

@elfin surge you get the weap chant yet? What’s it look like

[elfin surge]

was only able to q 26 games yesterday

[green sequoia]

Ah okay. Wasn’t sure if you did anymore after the tsg

[elfin surge]

tsg then bed

gotta be up by 4:30am for work

[green sequoia]

Yea I get up at 5 lol…. Fuckd myself going to bed at 2 😳

[elfin surge]

[green sequoia]

Gym at 5 am… work at 7:30…

Rough life

[elfin surge]

life

most would crumble

[bright stream]

oh 1800 is super chill, basically got it in 7-8 queues

[scarlet flame]

why is conq cap at 1350

[bright stream]

so you can't weapon week 1, but you can buy a small and medium, or a big piece in week 1

but you can buy a weapon week 2 if needed

[scarlet flame]

thats dumb as hell

[bright stream]

in previous seasons

you would have to wait 3 weeks for weapon

with the vault basically deciding who could play

its better now

tbh

[scarlet flame]

give me my weapon week 1

idc

[elfin surge]

says u

[scarlet flame]

yes says me

[leaden rune]

Whats emerald mark?

[elfin surge]

Tier token

[scarlet flame]

vault is still the same as before right

just rated pvp = slots

[leaden rune]

Buy a thrill weapon then?

[scarlet flame]

idk what a thrill weapon is bud

and i dont care

[leaden lynx]

you get a token for getting 1600 which can be exchanged for any tier piece

[leaden rune]

Ahhh how do you get that

[elfin surge]

@leaden rune

conquest piece with tier for free

[scarlet barn]

Mud go review footage

[elfin surge]

[urban skiff]

eh, it forces people to wait for the first vault

[scarlet barn]

Easy SF activity

[leaden rune]

Theophy weapon

[elfin surge]

at work review dn kid

[leaden rune]

Oh that’s wicked

[scarlet barn]

Your work is playing wow nerd

[elfin surge]

is not

[scarlet barn]

Is too

[leaden rune]

Fucking auto correct throphy*

[urban skiff]

BGB is wild, can really put out some big hits

[elfin surge]

fury is dead

let it go

[pure hornet]

How will you buy weapon? With conq? Or trophy of strife 486?

[leaden rune]

What do arms focus on stat wise?

[leaden lynx]

vers > haste > mastery> crit

[elfin surge]

Strife. But i think buying gloves with strife and turning them into tier then saving conquest for weapon next week mightve been better.

[bright stream]

get a web dev job MUD

[leaden rune]

That for arms?

[leaden lynx]

yes

[bright stream]

wfh + wow is life now

[urban skiff]

If fury is so dead why am i peaking on day 1?

[leaden lynx]

cap at ~25% haste, then go mastery

[tribal holly]

huh

[elfin surge]

you're just gaming

[elfin surge]

huh

[urban skiff]

gaming is good?

[tribal holly]

i didnt

[elfin surge]

someone did

[leaden rune]

Does your haste go up with ability’s like fury?

[bright stream]

I went shoulders/legs with conq + tier token, crafted ring, and wpvp belt

on dk

all in w1

[elfin surge]

however you want to spend your conquest works

wont change much tbh

we'll be full geared eventually

[bright stream]

yeah

[leaden rune]

I just try to kill people and sometime it works and sometimes it does t 😂

[bright stream]

nah I've been running some propganda on this

trying to encourage others to be degen with me

4 items week 1? 2 set? crafted stats + gem socket?

[elfin surge]

next week gunna be really annoying

most wont have 4 set

some will from vault

[leaden rune]

So if I get 1600 plus the one catalyst you got this week we can have 2p this week?

[bright stream]

2nd catalyst charge is week 3 right?

[elfin surge]

ye

[leaden lynx]

2 more weeks til 2nd charge

[elfin surge]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/us/icecrown/mud

[bright stream]

yeah so raiders will get 4set next week

[leaden rune]

So we won’t have 4p for like a month?

[elfin surge]

im already 2 set gaming

[leaden rune]

Unit

[bright stream]

but honestly whos even good at the game and raids these days

[leaden rune]

Sweaty boiz

[elfin surge]

you can get 4 set next week if you rng tier from your vault

[leaden rune]

Anyone can learn mechanics and kill npcs real men fight real people 👀

[elfin surge]

otherwise everyone will have 4 set week 3 of the season

[bright stream]

am I math bad?

this week is 2pc

next week 3pc

(from vault)

week 3 5pc

[leaden rune]

Yeah wouldn’t it be 3p next week if you get lucky in vault?

[elfin surge]

one catalyst charge every week right

[bright stream]

nah

[elfin surge]

or is it 2 weeks

[bright stream]

2 weeks

so next week we chillin

[elfin surge]

can someone confirm that

[leaden rune]

3p next week if ya lucky

[bright stream]

2 chances at vault set

[wheat jay]

Yes

I can

2 weeks

[elfin surge]

o shit

[leaden lynx]

i think it's every 2 weeks but can't confirm

[elfin surge]

ight

[bright stream]

yeah son, 2set kings w1

[wheat jay]

Fam im a pve dude, you can trust me

[bright stream]

pve is very fun tbh

mythic raiding/ce

[leaden lynx]

WE DON'T LIKE UR KIND HERE

[bright stream]

good gaming

[wheat jay]

Pve>pvp

[bright stream]

players though?

no good

[leaden rune]

The blasphemy

[wheat jay]

Suck my left nut, I'll break your kneecaps in arena

[bright stream]

@wheat jay did I ever tell you the hysterical story of my previous guild?

[wheat jay]

Nope

Go for it lol

[bright stream]

raiding mythic, get to sire with a few weeks left for CE

let RL know I'll be on the dot cause have a masters degree exam following day to prep for

show up, on time

get benched for 3 weeks, and it costs them the kill

because I was their top performing dps, and they subbed me with a grey parser

[scarlet flame]

i really dont think they'd sub their literal top dps for a grey parser bud

[bright stream]

anyway they spent like OCT>end of patch on sylvanas and got like, 600+ attempts in, didnt kill

LOL

[leaden rune]

Grey parser?

[bright stream]

the guys running the guild were like, retail managers

so it was an ego thing

[wheat jay]

Last time I raided full time i was 95+

[scarlet flame]

okay this server is so fucking stupid bro

[bright stream]

they had one other guy that was also extremely good in the guild but the rest of them were purple/blue parsers, and never really saw orange/pink

[scarlet flame]

fuck you soft ass losers who ban every single word under the sun

can't type cuk anymore

smh

[wheat jay]

Bro 600 attempts lmao

That's sad

[bright stream]

theyd have got both kills if they dropped these two anchor druids

but the GM was a healer and wanted them for inervates

[scarlet flame]

so are you guys farming conq for 1 piece then getting token for 2 piece

[wheat jay]

No

I'm getting weapons first

Better weapon is more dmg, right?

More dmg is more dmg

More dmg is more killing

[scarlet flame]

is the 2 piece more damage than weapon upgrade

[wheat jay]

Fuck knows

I want weapons

[scarlet flame]

weapon does look cooler

[bright stream]

2pc will probably be more fun tho

[scarlet flame]

can you not get 2 piece this week then get weapon next week?

this is a really cool talent

[wheat jay]

I want 2 weapons asap

I play dh now

[scarlet flame]

i dont like the class choice but you do you homie

[spice hornet]

Facts bro

[bright stream]

we do seem to ban about half the people that message mud

whats up with that?

personal security team

[wheat jay]

Ngl its the most fun class i've played

Current dh

Cuz man that rework was fun as fuck xD

[bright stream]

how do you cope with the class fantasy being the worst in game by a mile?

[spice hornet]

I message mud all the time tell him he sux

Never get banned

[scarlet flame]

i love skrims

[scarlet flame]

im looking forward to playing ele a bit more this season i think

WW set looks so fucking boring idk if i'll play it

[leaden rune]

I want dk to be good the new armour looks sick for them 😂

[scarlet flame]

dk has been good?

[wheat jay]

Fam

I dash around

Jump around

Hear demon voices in my head

[leaden rune]

I thought they were in a bad spot or is that just frost?

[scarlet flame]

unholy dk has been S tier since they reworked it

what rock do you live under

[leaden rune]

A pretty big one aye

[bright stream]

I've seen him call in the air support twice now

[leaden rune]

I just came back from half a year break

[scarlet flame]

thats fair

[bright stream]

though to be fair I think the first time I goaded someone into giving him a hard time

[bright stream]

when you say reword, do you mean slands?

[leaden rune]

Might have to dabble on my dk then

[scarlet flame]

@wheat jay classes that kite smell like shit but i respect you enjoying your class

[bright stream]

dk has been b->a tier at most until this season

it is definitely s tier rn

[wheat jay]

I played survi

[bright stream]

the best thing about unholy rn

is that it has target swap

[wheat jay]

90% of my gameplay was kiting

[scarlet flame]

all hunters smell like shit you live in the woods

[bright stream]

and huge cleave

[wheat jay]

Trust me, you dont kite on dh xD

[bright stream]

oh man, the number of derps that insist you must kite on dk while you've got a loaded RP bar to keep yourself alive

drives me nuts

[scarlet flame]

dh kite me all the time

[leaden rune]

Marksman is so broken atm

[wheat jay]

Well, cuz you are letting them

Ez

[bright stream]

nerfs soon

[wheat jay]

Get fukd

[scarlet flame]

i didn't say it worked

i said they kite me

[wheat jay]

They should be killing you instead lmao

[scarlet flame]

they dont

[wheat jay]

They are superior to warrior

[scarlet flame]

i love dh because i 1 shot them

[wheat jay]

They suck then

Lmao

[scarlet flame]

yes

[wheat jay]

They gotta suck then

[spice hornet]

⚠️ WARNING: Do NOT play 2v2 as a warrior ⚠️

[scarlet flame]

shit

[leaden rune]

Question just want to make sure if I am right or wrong here

Upgrading PvP gear only benefits you in pve correct not in PvP?

Excuse my rustiness

[scarlet flame]

why

[bright stream]

not quite

it also is good for style points

[leaden rune]

But it doesn’t help in PvP?

[scarlet flame]

yeah it does nothing in pvp

[leaden lynx]

skill issue?

[leaden rune]

I just gives it higher pve ilvl correct?

[bright stream]

makes you feel and look tougher

[leaden rune]

But getting higher rank conq gear does help PvP?

[bright stream]

(ignore me, I'm very sleep deprived)

[bright stream]

lol nah it doesnt do anything in pvp instances

[leaden lynx]

top solo shuffle warrior on murlok io is going heavy mastery 0.o

[leaden rune]

Oh so glad ranked conq gear isn’t better then normal conq in PvP?

[bright stream]

not since cata

[leaden rune]

Arms or fury

[leaden lynx]

arms

[bright stream]

fury plays mast, arms can do both was my understanding

you hit harder, but less frequently

[leaden rune]

Oh yeah so a glads gear is no stronger then a rivals gear? In PvP correct?

Just outside of PvP it has better stats?

I’m a bit slow

[scarlet barn]

[bright stream]

yep thats correct

[silk mortar]

arms still going haste?

[wheat jay]

More fun

[scarlet barn]

I support fun

[bright stream]

can do either, I'm playing haste, think mudkips is too

[scarlet barn]

But dont think i can support DH

[wheat jay]

Support me brother

[scarlet barn]

https://tenor.com/view/aye-yes-gimli-hobbit-lord-of-the-rings-gif-4543004

[leaden rune]

Oh yeah so stack haste to 25% then focus mastery? No crit?

[scarlet flame]

yeah crit sucks

[bright stream]

I haven't personally paid attention to the haste cap

given we'll craft multiple haste/mast pieces

[scarlet flame]

my stats atm

[bright stream]

and have 4 set

[green sequoia]

Yea I think I have 25% haste 30% mas and like 38-39 ver

[spring pagoda]

Had one teammate die in 3 sec. Left game. Now i have to wait 20 min... (solo shuffle)

[scarlet flame]

is demo like omega tanky rn

[green sequoia]

Sometimes lol

[scarlet flame]

fuck mages

[fallen estuary]

Segam kcuf

[scarlet flame]

add on a 180k MS too

[bright stream]

as a man who intends to do a lot of mage this season

I support this message

[spice hornet]

Hi

[bright stream]

like it looks alright, but I reckon last seasons look is better

[green lintel]

Should you keep ur PvE gear tierset or should i just go full honor gear ?

[pure hornet]

How did you do 2 set items? There is only one catalyst exchange

[elfin surge]

i feel like youve asked this 4 times now

[leaden lynx]

2 set items is possible w1

[elfin surge]

[stable siren]

why solo shuffle que so borked already T-T

30 min in

[scarlet flame]

fess up

which loser are you

[azure willow]

so which gear do we buy first ? legs ?

[stable siren]

ready 2 fight 3 multi glads and 2 blizzcon champs

[rotund trellis]

That's not the worst I've seen so far LMAO

[frank knoll]

I’m not scared of fighting glads or whatever

Letting that intimidate you is ceding to them, like you believe that they’re smarter or better than you

This is a game of who presses buttons at the right time faster, not really hindered by actual physical talent or ability

[rotund trellis]

honestly I learn more in the first week of a season than being hardstuck at 1950/2k

[frank knoll]

Yeah fuck ‘em

[spice hornet]

Hahagagaga

[pure hornet]

What did you guys upgraded with throphy of conquest? For helm chest or leg

[spice hornet]

I bet it was an orc male warrior

[frank knoll]

You’re intimidated by a “glad”
That means you’re intimidated by a mf that looks like this

[scarlet flame]

it weas

with loser xmog

[spice hornet]

Straight back orc male warrior is always the most toxic warrior

[spice hornet]

Hate that guy

[bright stream]

LOL

[rotund trellis]

you still have hair? can't be glad

[bright stream]

nah you've got the wrong angle

glads are kids/child adults that live with their parents on a free ride

or occasionally you get a DSPer

[spice hornet]

Huh I work full time with 2 kids and a wife and I got glad

[rare oak]

Is it worth turning strife gear into tier to save on conq for next week weapon?

[pale minnow]

2 hours - 2 games

[bright stream]

hard game

[rare oak]

Anyone know?

is it worth or nah

[bright stream]

doubl dh all the way across the sky

[scarlet flame]

i love getting boomkin/caster monk, BM priest back to back and the pug disc is mad we lose in 2v2

lmao

ass rogue/rdruid rdruid/dk

mad we lose those games

guy goes "just sit rogue"

[rotund trellis]

how's resto druid performing so far? It's my #1 alt and I may get him into the arena this weekend, after arms chores are done

[scarlet flame]

if you play a class that kites you give yourself foot jobs

[rotund trellis]

I played against few, but they seemed squishy and with meiocre output, but it may have been mid players

[rotund trellis]

lmao

[rare oak]

What

[scarlet flame]

@spice hornet hes 10x better than me but lost to me

[spice hornet]

I know for a fact he’s in here

There was nothing he more he could do, he played that perfectly

[bright stream]

lol

[spice hornet]

[green sequoia]

I LOVE when people whisper

Like how mad can you be

[scarlet flame]

hes mad he lost at 1k rating 1700 mmr

LOL

[hazy breach]

does every weeks cap equal 1350?

will next week be 1350 too?

so 2700

[worthy fern]

@scarlet flame war 2s is asking for suffering

[scarlet flame]

yeah hoenstly its not fun

l,ol

[worthy fern]

No matter how strong war is

[scarlet flame]

this priest got so mad because we were getting damped by 2 casters

[worthy fern]

2s is made for druids rogues and hunters

Everyone else suffers

[hazy breach]

and mages

[scarlet flame]

im just trying to conq cap lol

[worthy fern]

@hazy breach even mage can suffer to certain shit

Like who wins hunt x vs mage x

All other casters basically beat mage

[scarlet flame]

i might boost warlock tbh

they seem fun

and op as fuck

@fallen estuary ill really be a warlock player then

[worthy fern]

Lock always has an s tier spec and is more fun than mage imo

If you want to play a real caster

[frank knoll]

That’s Bruin 100%

[scarlet flame]

who is bruin

@wheat jay why does dh have so much damage randomly

why is this your top damage lmao

[wheat jay]

nothing is random 😄

[ruby heron]

how do you kill these fucking demon hunters?

i am about to puke because of their dmg

[scarlet flame]

its random lmao

top damage again passive aoe that you dont even worry about

[bright stream]

ay so you know how

skyhold is brainrot central

the dk players/disco got a whole other level

[leaden rune]

They tanky as fuck to aye

[fallen estuary]

😔

[sage raptor]

Imagine just existing and you win

[spice hornet]

It’s like s1 early season

regard dhs getting free rating

[pale minnow]

Idk bruv playing on 1.9 mmr with 0 cr and dh is free to kill basically, i'm so happy more of them play now

They are glass cannons, if you know how to counter them (good deff uses/ intervenes ) you easily just bleed them out

[scarlet flame]

@wheat jay alright

surv needs to get gutted

no cap

[wheat jay]

no u

why you crying

when warr is still a beast

and you're crying about 2s

smh dude

[scarlet flame]

im not crying about losing in 2s

im saying your class too strong

[wheat jay]

its literally start of the season

when noone has gear

[scarlet flame]

i didn't ask

[wheat jay]

and noone has tier

so you're just being dumb now

[scarlet flame]

again

i didn't ask

nerf surbv

ty

[wheat jay]

i didnt ask for this

now stfu

git gud scrub

[scarlet flame]

no

surv shit

nerf into ground

f tier spec on par with fdk plz and ty

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/gitgud-thepruld-git-gud-dark-gif-8126281

[scarlet flame]

ill get good when hunters dont do damage at all

where they belong

[leaden rune]

Now now lady’s no fighting

[scarlet flame]

shut up loser

[leaden rune]

Don’t take it out on ya keyboard now. Just relax

[green sequoia]

Hunters have been in good spots lately lol

All 3 specs

[scarlet flame]

lol

[leaden rune]

Yeah hunters are in a good spot

[scarlet flame]

"good"

[leaden rune]

Even my shortly geard marksman is not bad 😂

Shitly*

[green sequoia]

Warriors aren’t terrible lol so it’s okay

[leaden rune]

They still pretty easy to kill

I don’t tend to have any issues kill hunters just need to keep close and burst them and try stun before turtle

[wheat jay]

ye

you just suck

[leaden rune]

There’s a lot of hunters that can do dps but suck when you get up close and die easily

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/viva-la-dirt-league-vldl-souls-logic-dark-souls-git-gud-gif-19856700

[leaden rune]

Stop winding up old grumbles

😂😂

[wheat jay]

no

he deserves it

https://tenor.com/view/supernatural-sam-dean-hair-flip-loreal-gif-4864279

[leaden rune]

😂

Fucks sake

[wheat jay]

you know how it goes

[scarlet flame]

nah hunters just broken

[wheat jay]

meme them until they cry, then meme them for crying

[scarlet flame]

it has nothing to do with it being 2s hunters are clearly broken

[wheat jay]

ye

2s are overall broken

and impossible to fix

[scarlet flame]

this was clearly sarcasam sorry

[wheat jay]

sadly, 2s are not a good bracket

is*

and if you want to enjoy 2s, you gotta play 2s class

so

you play sub

survi

feral

[pale minnow]

And wear skirts and high heels as well

[wheat jay]

well

you either do that

or suck it up

2s are never balanced

[scarlet flame]

yeah 2s sucks

just need conq

only lolst to 1 surv tho

and he was good

so i have to complain its mandatory

[fallen estuary]

alright im sitting out untill dk and DH get nerfed to the fucking dirt

no way this shit stays after this week LOL

2 DH , dk lobby and i get fucking obilterated out the gate within 10 seconds even through PS and enraged up

[spice hornet]

yee buddy

early sl s1 round 2

err df* s1

dhs

[fallen estuary]

yea its S1 all fucking over again

why is it that classes that have the best looking mog is "unexpectedly" overpowered

its like the devs overtune it so they can legit earn it as easy as possible and when they achieve it they nerf the fuck outta them

[leaden rune]

Mage is broken to

So many fucking slows and distance ability’s plus stupid dps

[fallen estuary]

YEA

frozen beam got WAY fucking deadlier now

thanks blizzard

idk how tf they managed to do that as well

[leaden rune]

Bro they just slow you then pump you the. You get close the. They blink then repeat

Then*

[scarlet flame]

fan mail again

LOL

[spice hornet]

dk damage is also fucking stupid

[fallen estuary]

yea dk and DH

they have legit 0 playtesters

[sage raptor]

Dk dev throws shit at walls to see what sticks and then nerfs is when it does because it's not pve.

[green sequoia]

Lol dk can run from you and max dam

But it’s fine lol… I’m sure ppl complain about wars

[wheat jay]

for a reason

warr is always the most opressive class in 3s unless its undertuned

sooooooo ye

people do complain

[simple rock]

rogue?

[scarlet flame]

how bad do you have to be to lose 2v2 hunter priest vs war druid

[wheat jay]

In 3s

That's warrior

[scarlet flame]

ladder 3s war is good yep

[wheat jay]

You can bitch and moan, but that's facts

[scarlet flame]

ill bitch and moan all i want about not being able to play my class for 65% of the arena

[wheat jay]

Lets also not forget the fact that warr can play with everything and make it a good comp

So just pick the most broken shit and you're good

[wheat jay]

Shuffle, warr is good, 3s warr is always great

2s, warr is decent

[scarlet flame]

idk honestly

no sarcasam at all

im tired of every single class in the game kiting warriors except other warriors

its honestly so fucking boring

literally every single class but war and monk kite warriors non stop

gets old really fast

[mild thunder]

Womp womp

“Oh no, when I play the unkillable juggernaut spec I don’t have 100% uptime”

Womp Womp

[pure hornet]

:))))

[wheat jay]

Well that's the thing about warriors

Noone wants to have a warrior on them

Because if warrior is on someone 24/7

Warrior always wins

And tbh i wouldn't be surprised if blizz held back with nerfs until people get gear in both pvp and pvee

Also, rwf

[mild thunder]

All plate melee are also being tuned around legendary axe

Should’ve been a legendary polearm but whatever

Agility polearm leggo in 11.0

[wheat jay]

Ngl should have been either a polearm or a staff

For both agility and intelect

[scarlet flame]

yeah but heres the thing

its 10x easier to keep a warrior off you

than to get on someone as a warrior

when you play warrior you afk basically all match except for 2 seconds when you get 2 globals

then back to afk rooted stuned slowed forever

[spice hornet]

sub rogue iss sooo broken holy fuck

how is this liuve

[scarlet flame]

i dont even care about whatever you say im just fucking so sick of being stuck doing litrerally nothing for the majority of every single arena

its fucking boring as fuck

[simple rock]

I guess you meant over the whole ladder and in the last 2 xpacs, but historically rogue has seemed way more oppressive in r1 range

like RMP during almost all of SL was disgusting

assa rogue s1 DF

[wheat jay]

Rmp r1 range seems more opressive cuz of fucking whaaz winning every awc

[simple rock]

usually vs warrs there's something you can do to avoid dmg, some outplay

but rmp is just checkmate scenario because of db sheep

db ring

[wheat jay]

Bro you're not even the most kited class

You have easier time than dh

Cuz of Avatar and bladestorm

And reflect

[scarlet flame]

nah

[simple rock]

ya no ww and dh are so much easier to kite as ele

[scarlet flame]

shut the fuck up you think warriors not the easiest kited class lmfao

[wheat jay]

Charge is better than fel rush

Ww is easier to kite too, ye

[simple rock]

WW gets kited so much more i'm ngl

[scarlet flame]

nah you're stupid as fuck

[wheat jay]

Tanda you're coping

Stop

[scarlet flame]

no

im not coping

[wheat jay]

You have all the tools to not be kited

[scarlet flame]

im playing the video game on both WW and warrior

[simple rock]

WW is just sad...

[wheat jay]

Its easier to kite other classes

[scarlet flame]

bro your BS can be knocked back

lmfao

DK can grip it

its a shit ability

shaman can totem it

[wheat jay]

Are we forgetting it also slows now

By 70% iirc

[simple rock]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-bart-simpson-grampa-simpson-old-man-going-in-gif-17818438

[wheat jay]

And you have two of them

[scarlet flame]

it does not

[wheat jay]

And leap, and double charge

[scarlet flame]

and half the classes in the game

can

immune slows

[wheat jay]

Dh cant

[scarlet flame]

they just afk damage you to death

[wheat jay]

Not rly

Gotta be on target to do dmg

[leaden rune]

I agree when a warrior is up close and pumping you your fucked warriors have some stupid burst if you let them close in

[wheat jay]

Warr is also one of the most durable classes

[mild thunder]

The most durable class

[wheat jay]

Good walls, IP, dbts, reflect, disarm, fear, two stuns, IV

[leaden rune]

Bro you have x2 charges and a heroic leap make sure you stun them as soo. As you close the gap it’s easy

[wheat jay]

Tanda knows it

He's just delusional atm

[mild thunder]

Imagine getting two new broken pvp talents, damage buffs and a massively improved tier set and still crying about your spec (you were already top-tier)

[leaden rune]

Man’s just having a bad day

[wheat jay]

I guess so

Man's playing 2s on warrior

[leaden rune]

I might try arms see how it feel compared to fury tonight

[wheat jay]

That's never going well

[leaden rune]

I’ve had luck in 2s on warrior

[wheat jay]

Arms is superior in arena, assuming you can play both

[leaden rune]

But never got glad in twos

[wheat jay]

Cant get glad in 2s

Glad is only for 3s

[leaden rune]

I’ve played both I prefer fury and how it feels love the heals and stuff it has

But enjoy both

[mild thunder]

Bro ok

Legit

What is there to enjoy about fury

I’m not even memeing

[leaden rune]

Idk I just like fury?

[simple rock]

brain off smash

[mild thunder]

That’s just arms tho

Arms is not a brain on spec

[leaden rune]

Every likes different shit? Opinions are like assholes everyone has one 🫶🏼

[marble bone]

Well, its twice as fun. You swing two big weapons instead of one, simple math really

[simple rock]

eh because of duel and WB and bladestorm arms has a lot of interesting options

[leaden rune]

I just like warrior in general like the play style

[wheat jay]

I like fury too sometimes

I like both specs

[mild thunder]

I hate both specs

Fr

Bring back wod fury

[leaden rune]

😂

[mild thunder]

Wotlk arms

[marble bone]

Also, I kinda get Tanda earlier here, played twos today with my disc mate, and I feel like I’m off making coffee half the fight or some shit, afk dancing. Then when I connect things fucking melt though

Havent played since early s2, so thats a big reason I suck at sticking to people right now though

[unborn sonnet]

guys please stop fighting

[mild thunder]

No

[unborn sonnet]

:(

[mild thunder]

Nice pfp tho

[unborn sonnet]

thnks bro u too

is that ur dog

[mild thunder]

Hahaha nah just some random cat from some meme

Thought he was a cute boi

[unborn sonnet]

good fella

do we have a list of itms to go for first btw? just spent 1.5h cappign dh now its time to go onto the other raidboss class

guessing just copy mud or whoever

[wheat jay]

That's usual warrior experience in 2s

Some classes excel in 2s, some in 3s

Overall arms is the best 3s spec

From design pov

[mild thunder]

I think Mud said he was buying conq gloves and then chest with token, then crafting boots with his first spark @unborn sonnet

[unborn sonnet]

thank u my man

xx

[mild thunder]

You can join his discord or ask him on stream to double check tho

[unborn sonnet]

im 1800 peak warrior surely this is my season

https://i.gyazo.com/c4952d9bac454b70e40eca12f1870987.png

rate the mog

original right

[mild thunder]

I can’t wait to get t3 mog from twitch drops

Or trading post

[unborn sonnet]

dont think itll come tbh

[mild thunder]

One day

In 5 years maybe

[unborn sonnet]

dno if its me coping but they added the alternate way to get it

doubt they're gna ever think about it

[mild thunder]

That’s true

[unborn sonnet]

unironically can get some pieces giga cheap

[mild thunder]

But it’s just as expensive as bmah lol

[unborn sonnet]

just buy shoulders chest etc with the lamented piss and

get the others on bmah cheap

[mild thunder]

Yea fair

If I still played warr I would

[unborn sonnet]

arcanite ripper on the other hand

thats 100% going on twitch drops eventually

[mild thunder]

I respect gnome tho fr

[unborn sonnet]

ngl i did it just cos everyone did

feels unreal having 500 root breaks

[mild thunder]

Ye gnome always just feels so good on arms

[unborn sonnet]

im a ww / dh player, never really played warr past 1800

[mild thunder]

Never ever feels bad

[scarlet flame]

you shouldn't have to reroll race to play your character in 2023 retail

[mild thunder]

You don’t

[unborn sonnet]

dno i hate playing with a disadvantage, im well aware i dont need to

jsut rather play meta if it makes the experience a bit better

[mild thunder]

Tanda just having a bad day

[scarlet flame]

yeah im having a bad time every time i play warrior

[mild thunder]

Nelf warr is bis to smeld disarms

[scarlet flame]

every class but me has perma slow immune

[wheat jay]

Cuz you suck

Roll something easier, like bm

[mild thunder]

Cuz you suck

[scarlet flame]

im still beating these dogshit players bro

has nothing to do with winning or losing

[fallen estuary]

what

[wheat jay]

Stop crying then

[fallen estuary]

the fuck

[mild thunder]

Dude bladestorm is like a 30s CD and you have two

Chill

[unborn sonnet]

guys !!!!! stop fighting!!!!!!!!!!!

[wheat jay]

Yo dabdaddy

[scarlet flame]

im fucking tired of the majority of arenas being me running after losers

[fallen estuary]

i just played against a rogue LMAO

[wheat jay]

Warrior life

[fallen estuary]

HOLY FUCK how did they manage to make them WAY WORSE LOL

[wheat jay]

Always been this way

[scarlet flame]

its a 1.5 and i have 1

both are 1.5 if you use avatar

[mild thunder]

Not my fault you play the wrong build

[scarlet flame]

if you're using avatar it root breaks anyway

so that doesn't matter

[mild thunder]

Also anger management

[wheat jay]

Roll diff talents

[scarlet flame]

i hasve double BS

the point is avatar is a root break anyway

[mild thunder]

Bro is just playing a bad build fr

[scarlet flame]

so its a moot point

[wheat jay]

Cc immunity

[unborn sonnet]

guys i dont have any root breaks!!!! (45 unspent talent points)

[wheat jay]

Damage

[mild thunder]

Arms is literally cc immune half the game

[scarlet flame]

cc immunity you can knock back grip shaman totem

[wheat jay]

Lmao, good one

[mild thunder]

Kek

[scarlet flame]

druid vortex

[unborn sonnet]

play a ww

like a real man

[wheat jay]

Not sure you can knock back

[unborn sonnet]

coward

[scarlet flame]

i have a WW

[mild thunder]

Based

[wheat jay]

You can displace

[scarlet flame]

set is trash no thanks

[unborn sonnet]

ye ww is shit forever

[mild thunder]

Play a sv hunter

[wheat jay]

But not knock back afaik

[mild thunder]

Like a real man

[unborn sonnet]

msierable class

[scarlet flame]

nah hunters are femboys

[wheat jay]

Id love to see tanda play sv

[scarlet flame]

never catch me playing that girly boy class

[wheat jay]

Man would break his monitor

[mild thunder]

Bro would ree about warriors so hard fr

[wheat jay]

Everyone hates warriors in arena

Cuz warrs are annoying

[mild thunder]

Real

[wheat jay]

Double intervene now

Bruh

[mild thunder]

And aoe freedom

[wheat jay]

2nd best mobility in the game

1st being rogues i guess

Or arcane

[mild thunder]

Rogues get cucked by roots

[wheat jay]

True

[mild thunder]

Arms doesn’t really

[wheat jay]

Well, 2nd best after arcane then

[mild thunder]

Ye probs

[wheat jay]

Good cc, two stuns, one being ranged

[mild thunder]

Esp now that we’ve lost a root break

[wheat jay]

Fear

Immunity to fucking everything during bladestorm, except displacement i guess

[mild thunder]

All while being unkillable btw

[wheat jay]

Tanky as fuck

But nah, better to cry about 2s...

[spice hornet]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/bm-hunter-pet-damage-adjustment-coming-today-336173?webhook

see i was complaining about it yesterday

bm damage is fuckign broken

[mild thunder]

Womp Womp

[spice hornet]

bm just casually killing through heal spam

lol

[scarlet flame]

nah

[wheat jay]

Play anything other than warriors and you'll hate warriors xD

[scarlet flame]

i play dk ww ele druid warrior and out of any class

warrior is the worst to play

by far

every class in the game except WW can kite warriors for free and take zero damage lmao

idk how you can defend that

[wheat jay]

We can defend that because no other class fucks others when they have uptime like warrior

[mild thunder]

You’re basing it off 2s

[scarlet flame]

yup sure

[mild thunder]

Who cares fr

[scarlet flame]

i do

[mild thunder]

The game isn’t balanced around 2s

Never was

[limber relic]

2s is never balanced

[mild thunder]

Never will be

[scarlet flame]

i dont give a shit if its balanced around 2s

lmao

[mild thunder]

Even bloody Seifcham knows goddamn

[scarlet flame]

has nothing to do with the argument

[limber relic]

oh wow

[wheat jay]

It does

[limber relic]

me and gala agree on something

[wheat jay]

Weird day, isn't it?

[limber relic]

its the apocalypse

gg

[mild thunder]

Tanda uniting everyone against him fr

[scarlet flame]

yeah i just dont give a shit what you think lmao

sit afk slowed by 65% all arena just waddeling around

[sharp meteor]

Just had a Warrior AFK out of 2s Season off to a good start.

[mild thunder]

[scarlet flame]

bet that was you loser

[wheat jay]

Then why say all that shit on a public forum if you dont care about what others think

[scarlet flame]

whos your dk

[mild thunder]

Fr

[sharp meteor]

LMAO

[scarlet flame]

because it helps me

not be mad

[mild thunder]

He would care if we coddled him

[sharp meteor]

Was it a Worgen in goggles

[scarlet flame]

yeah it was a worgen

cba

[sharp meteor]

Hey~

[scarlet flame]

druid told me

"go druid"

ok bud

[sharp meteor]

LMAOOO

[mild thunder]

Go Druid

[scarlet flame]

like there is no world i connect to a resto druid with dk on his team

in maldrax

[mild thunder]

Just reflect the grip bro

[scarlet flame]

yeah ill reflect his 2 grips

[mild thunder]

I’ve done it

[scarlet flame]

and chanes

chains sorry

[mild thunder]

I reflected two grips and asphyx with one reflect last season

Dks stay mad

[scarlet flame]

idk how you do that

[simple rock]

you reflect one and then your restoration shaman grounds the next one obviously

[scarlet flame]

because it eats it on the first one hit you

unless you play rebound

which is pretty shit

[mild thunder]

I don’t think grip eats reflect iirc

Idk what happened tbh

[scarlet flame]

idk tbh

yeah that was u

eat my ass

[sharp meteor]

Hey.

[scarlet flame]

how you gunna do more healing than your druid

[mild thunder]

Abdoutoobeasty

[sharp meteor]

My druid chillin in prowl most games

[limber relic]

take me back to preseason pls

[scarlet flame]

idk bro my druid said "you'll have to go druid" like thats even an option

guys name says it all

[mild thunder]

Skill issue

[scarlet flame]

yup sure is

why can't i delist my group

[simple rock]

you don't "kill" a druid in 2s

you swap them without hots and oom them