pvp

[worthy fern]

@fallen estuary you don’t think that 5 percent dam will be good?

[sharp meteor]

During TR though isn't it

Idk could be sick

[worthy fern]

5 percent from all sources is big

Especially cause it’s aoe

[stark panther]

im talking about the pvp talent that gives alot of cc

piercing howl roots etc

[worthy fern]

@stark panther it does all of that at once

Every shout empowered

[sharp meteor]

Taunting a guy so my team hits him harder, shouting at him to take more damage, then shouting at him again so he takes more damage. Gonna be a grand old time.

[worthy fern]

Prot war fire mage

Cheese someone with combust buffed by 40 percent or something

What does prot buff bt

By

5 percent from taunt and what from demo shout

[sharp meteor]

10% demo, 6-12% taunt.

Well, 3-15 but generally it's always at least two stacks.

[worthy fern]

So anywhere from a 18-27 percent dmg buff

Pretty nice

[stark panther]

ah that sucks

[cyan mauve]

man fuck solo shuffle

disrespectfully

[fallen estuary]

If rocked with death wish sure itll be nice but its utter garbage lmao

Would love if it either stunned or disarmed/silenced

But no blizz too fat to think of that

[fallen estuary]

Been universally approved this comment

[mild thunder]

Battlefield commander

It’s a good talent, will just be hard to find room for it

It’ll be like your fallback filler talent when you don’t need banner, disarm, safeguard etc

[wheat jay]

Safeguard will 100% be default now

That, and sharpen

That leaves one spot

So, banner/disarm

[mild thunder]

Or battlefield commander

Banner/disarm aren’t gonna get you tons of value into stuff like lock/ele where they don’t have real setup

Or can just snipe it

[amber heron]

Any fury players?

[mild thunder]

Ngl I’m pretty unexcited for 10.2… all the currently strongest specs have either been buffed (arms, ww, sub) or completely ignored (Aug, ret, mm etc.)

On top of that dogshit trinket change, idk man

[wheat jay]

Death sentence brings more value there

[mild thunder]

Ehhhhhhh

Disagree

XD

[wheat jay]

Dont forget tier

[mild thunder]

Doesn’t change the 6s ICD

[violet fossil]

not many people are it looks like

seems like*

[wheat jay]

Gonna be just another season

Who knows how meta will look like

[frank knoll]

Destro is gonna be a menace too

Prolly gonna play Destro as an alt

[limber relic]

im dox 2.0 hi

[near delta]

Battlefield commander is gonna be wild

Also it'll actually make fear still useful with the trinket change

For heals

[near delta]

Did ww get buffed?

They just sorta kept its damage sameish

[mild thunder]

to compensate for losing current tier, yes

it's a net gain

[frank knoll]

Atleast frost mage is overall nerfed

[fallen estuary]

they need more nerfs

bro i gotta get more venruki photos cropped lmfao this shits actually funny

Soyruki

[violet fossil]

can you put a giant frost mage wiener in his mouth

[fallen estuary]

Dont say the w word, tanda will want in

[sage raptor]

any of them undead?

[elfin surge]

Cadaverous

[sage raptor]

sick

[cyan mauve]

chud variety of class enjoyer vs sigma warrior only player

[amber heron]

Shadow if colossus does not make any sense

U have 2 charges of overpower that r reset by charge

But rend and ms also reset it

Quite weird

[sharp meteor]

It's definitely deserving of a rework/update.

[near delta]

It's kinda funny they gave us multiple new talents and left it alone.

[atomic orchid]

Oh WW got buffed?

[mild thunder]

just some 10% here and there to make up for losing current tier

it'll keep it like

on-par with where it is now

despite 10.2 tier being terminally ass

[scarlet flame]

whoever made 10.2 for WW should get fired

[pure hornet]

😂😂😂😂😂

[mild thunder]

at least it got kinda fixed

ebontoes

[magic wing]

Its so bad

Literally nobody in the whole game picks it ever

[mild thunder]

wrong

i pick it for leveling

[near delta]

Oh they fixed the cs bullshit lol

I assume that's what this is addressing

"Fixed an issue causing Precognition to trigger if the player is immune to an interrupt while casting."

[mild thunder]

what's that from

[near delta]

Final patch notes

https://www.wowhead.com/news/dragonflight-patch-10-2-guardians-of-the-dream-official-patch-notes-335731#item13

[frank knoll]

Alright the new Bear form is dope af

[mild thunder]

yea i dont think that has to do with the reflect stuff

that's more like chain precogs

or precog-ing stunned people

[elfin surge]

solid arms buffs

we back

[mild thunder]

back from being S tier?

[elfin surge]

[wheat jay]

you do know its not MORE buffs but all buffs from the last month or so summarized, right?

[mild thunder]

weekly post about world pvpers being the most cringe humans imaginable

sniping my 300ilvl feral

show up on my sv hunter and they all run off and only fight 3v1s

[wheat jay]

lel

[mild thunder]

and they're all, always sub 2k andys

[elfin surge]

10.2 changes all i see are arms buffs coming

[wheat jay]

fair enough

meanwhile im happy with +40% bomb dmg

[mild thunder]

20%

[elfin surge]

cant wait to q tsg with double legendary weapons

[mild thunder]

fotm abuser

stream

bitch

[elfin surge]

soon.

[near delta]

Battlefield commander vs boomies to stop rootbeam

[mild thunder]

yea, it has the pvp mod from tier set applied to it

[near delta]

[mild thunder]

tested yesterday

[elfin surge]

gunna be cooked

[wheat jay]

ripperino

either way

we get good burst

[elfin surge]

not sure how much itll be played tho

[wheat jay]

in the form of fote

[near delta]

This is dumb af

[wheat jay]

i tried playing spearhead recently

[mild thunder]

im not thrilled about tier set tbh, losing spearhead is lame

[wheat jay]

didnt even use

0 need for it

[mild thunder]

it's nice to have into lock teams and stuff

very nice

[near delta]

But how about battlefield commander with the rally talent to stop every other root beam lmao

[wheat jay]

its a glorified charge

[mild thunder]

chase potential is insane

[wheat jay]

thats used once every like 10 games

wasted global unless you really need that charge

[elfin surge]

Safeguard

[mild thunder]

i use spearhead every game i take it

[elfin surge]

cant wait to make my team immortal

[near delta]

Yeah I know lol

I've missed it

[mild thunder]

battlefield commander is sick, but you'll very rarely get to take it

[wheat jay]

spearhead is ASS

flat ass

with 0 curve

[near delta]

Also unnerfs intervene

[wheat jay]

no meat on those bones

[mild thunder]

i cant wait for even more ret/warr/aug/ww/uhdk meta bro

it's so fun and cool /s

totally skillful comps that totally outplay me /s

[wheat jay]

more fote value hehe

[near delta]

Were just missing one little thing

[mild thunder]

you'll still cancel fote after the global 9 times out of 10

[near delta]

[elfin surge]

i have a feeling fw war cleaves are gunna be fotm. Will find myself playing this when speccing berserker shout then

[mild thunder]

it's just less dps than spamming mongoose

[wheat jay]

ye, with killshot 🙂

[near delta]

I mean as long as you don't need banner and disarm

[mild thunder]

yea, probably. cringe as balls

[elfin surge]

i dont mind fw

[mild thunder]

banner, duel, disarm, demolition... at least one of those is taken very, very often

[near delta]

Is fw looking good next patch thought they got hit pretty hard

[elfin surge]

they are fun to q with

[mild thunder]

that's because you play cringe melee regard fests

[near delta]

This season at least

[elfin surge]

i mean even in shuffle

[mild thunder]

jungle is even deader next season

[elfin surge]

fist lobbies are free

for arms

[mild thunder]

nah can we all flat out agree

that the way blizz has been killing setup comps

is cringe

raw pve regardation isnt fun or rewarding

[wheat jay]

noone likes jungle

[mild thunder]

it's lame as fuck

[wheat jay]

jungle is, true

[mild thunder]

it's not just jungle, it's all setup comps

they're dead

[near delta]

I feel like demolition isn't that much needed now with the dark pact nerf

[mild thunder]

everything is aug/x, ret/warr, mm/x blehhhhhh

[near delta]

And doesn't feel worth into mw with the cocoon buff

[wheat jay]

mm could be dead

[near delta]

Also does anyone even use duel anymore lol

[mild thunder]

mm probs dead, but bm will rise from the ashes to take its place

[mild thunder]

it's still an insanely strong talent, but ye most people too dumb to take it

arms mains terrified of a 3rd button

[near delta]

I mean arms isn't infinitely tanky anymore so it can feel kinda troll

[mild thunder]

??????????????????????????????????

say cap right now

[near delta]

It's quite tanky but not SL levels of stupidity lol

Still good tho

[mild thunder]

it's the tankiest spec in the game

and it's not really close

at all

[near delta]

P sure that's ww

[mild thunder]

no

[near delta]

But it requires brain power

Ish

[mild thunder]

ww has a very strong defensive rotation, but its not anywhere near as passively tanky

and its defensives are more niche... versing a melee cleave and diffuse doesnt exist

[near delta]

Ah in that case yeah but you can get dicked down on arms

[mild thunder]

no, maybe if you're only ever versing casters but even then you're just passively the tankiest class in the game

while also being uncc-able

[near delta]

Fist of fury parry is p good

[mild thunder]

it's also incredibly easy to stop

[west mural]

ye, arms is tanky ifu actualy use your shit :D

[near delta]

And will be up more often this tier

[mild thunder]

or run away from

[mild thunder]

use your shit... you mean press the off-gcd rage spender and sometimes sit in dstance? yea, real hard

[near delta]

God I miss being top damage while in d stance the entire damn game lol

That's going away

[mild thunder]

no it's not? you generate more rage in 10.2 and IP is still infinitely spammable

[near delta]

So it'll be more like ip on fury when they still had it

[mild thunder]

you'll do exactly the same thing you do right now but you wont reset overpower

no it wont

[near delta]

A dps loss but good defensive

[west mural]

atleast be tanky if u get cced, it's normal

[mild thunder]

there's literally 0 reason to stop spamming it

[mild thunder]

what dps loss?

[near delta]

Not gonna wanna just press it on cd probably

[mild thunder]

why not?

[near delta]

It doesn't count toward am or overpower anymore

[mild thunder]

yea?

you have infinite rage, it doesnt matter

you do exactly the same thing now - with less min-maxing

[west mural]

since stats increase next season there's probably more rage anyway

[near delta]

God more rage lol

[west mural]

there;s no reason to not press pain sup

[mild thunder]

the only thing that'll change about your rotation is not caring about using ignore pain on 2 overpower charges

[near delta]

Also can't cheese it to kill rogues on evasion

[mild thunder]

so now you literally can just use the bajheera macro lmao

so fucking dumb dude please rework this regard-proof spec

[near delta]

What's the bhajeera macro?

[mild thunder]

#showtooltip
/cast overpower
/cast ignore pain

[west mural]

probably macro pain sup into rotation

[mild thunder]

there is, realistically, no reason to not use those macros

chances of you running out of rage are 1 in a million

[near delta]

Sounds like a lesser version of the BIS macro

[mild thunder]

dude please just rework this depression spec

it's so dull

[west mural]

the way it works atm is kinda stupid, that u can have pain sup into a macro with minor to no punishment

but it's an advantage

[near delta]

I mean you don't have to play it and aren't 🤷‍♂️

[mild thunder]

i wanna play it, i just wanna play it and have fun

[near delta]

Yeah the rage in pve feels legit awful somehow lol

Amazing they managed that

[mild thunder]

it's not rewarding when the damage of a 1600 arms warrior and 2400 arms warrior barely differ

[elfin surge]

[west mural]

that goes for other specs also

[mild thunder]

arms is objectively one of the easiest specs in pvp

[west mural]

dmg rotation wise no doubt

[near delta]

What pvp spec is hard?

[west mural]

spriest

[elfin surge]

aug evoker obviously

[near delta]

As far as melee

[elfin surge]

[near delta]

Like sub and ...

Survival ig

[mild thunder]

feral, survival, arcane, sub, fire (kinda), outlaw (kinda), probs a few others

[elfin surge]

leave a comment below

[mild thunder]

there are tons of specs that still absolutely have both high skill-floors and ceilings

[near delta]

Feral is dumb with the cleave build

The old st build is kinda difficult

[mild thunder]

there is way, way more to optimise in feral damage that it's actually laughable

all the aoe build really does is simplify your aoe spread

[elfin surge]

arms takes the most skill and brain power unless you q with an rdruid fistweaver aug or ret pally

[near delta]

The skill expression with arms is how you use your utility

[mild thunder]

oh yea, pressing intervene when your teammate is getting low

huge brain

i dont think ive seen an arms warrior intervene cc or banner at an actually useful time in aages

[west mural]

wish could spellreflect intervene,sad

[near delta]

Some guy accused me of macroing banner into my avatar once in a solo shuffle lmao

[mild thunder]

shouldve gotten overwatch instead of safeguard, way cooler skill expression

[near delta]

I'd prefer the mobility tbh

But yeah

Mobility and defensive

[mild thunder]

look, all imma say is fury should be the braindead beginner warrior spec, not arms

[west mural]

intervene is must vs physical dmg , what u on about, it's a free wall on low cd

[near delta]

Misshapen mirror could have been copper

*cool

[mild thunder]

misshapen too easy, no trade-off

overwatch is way better design

[near delta]

What have you been queuing recently? Lol

[mild thunder]

ret/warr/fw

he's not memeing

he's a sinner

[west mural]

if i run into that on my rsham i just leave

zerg

[mild thunder]

ive seen about a half-dozen double ele teams in the past 2 days

rip trap

rip cyclone

rip pet

[west mural]

scripters

[mild thunder]

nah they were legit players

[west mural]

could be, ele sham is strong

ezly the most scriptable class atm

[mild thunder]

it just shits out constant damage and random, unpredictable burst

kills pet for free

[west mural]

INSTANT dmg

[elfin surge]

cringe no skill cleave

[mild thunder]

play kfc

w/ me

[near delta]

I have no pity for hunters

[mild thunder]

sv chad spec

no cap

we are geralt

[near delta]

Honestly yeah

[west mural]

u mean broken in 2v2

[mild thunder]

i'll never touch mm/bm in my life, fuck em

[near delta]

Also true

[west mural]

play with druid for free wins

mm and ret are the most played classes

[mild thunder]

i dont play 2s and if i do i exclusively play with disc priests

rather slit my wrists (in-game) than play 10min rdruid dampeners

[near delta]

I've been exclusively playing 2s

[mild thunder]

ive just gotta finish off like 40 more glad wins and i can finally do some pve

[near delta]

I need to get back to 3s sometime

[elfin surge]

[west mural]

play 3s on healer with randoms or ss , wanna kms after few games

[mild thunder]

tempted to level my disc for next ssn

i wanna heal but do dmg

[fickle forge]

Mud fell off

[west mural]

the low mobility of priest apart from some speed makes priest a bit meh

unless u goblin or smt

[elfin surge]

[near delta]

"Magnusz would put mud in the mud no cap"

[west mural]

druid is hella fun but hard af

[mild thunder]

druid is not fun

treants and afk

priest has the most outplay potential of any healer now

[elfin surge]

[west mural]

u have alot of tools, that's the simple version treants and afk xD

[mild thunder]

the simple version of treants and afk works to 2400+ in 3s

because it's grossly overtuned

[west mural]

doesn;'t make it not fun if u can master it over the treant part

[mild thunder]

but there's no incentive to learn how to play aggro or do fancy stuff on rdruid, because if you do, you die

[west mural]

sham can also be fun but damage is nonexistant

there is in 2s for sure

u don;'t die that ez

[mild thunder]

2s

2s arent real

2s are as much real pvp as shuffle and rbgs now

that bracket is the most degenerate it's ever been

[west mural]

but can be fun

very degenerate xD

[mild thunder]

2s are only fun when you can actually play double dps

[near delta]

I just wanna play the game. Waiting an hour to queue 3s isn't fun

[elfin surge]

hey rbgs are coo

[west mural]

just healer :D

[mild thunder]

you NA?

[near delta]

No thank you lol

Yeah but I haven't played 3s in legit a couple months

[west mural]

in eu 3s is not that long

[mild thunder]

fuck it, we can queue next ssn

[near delta]

So maybe more people are playing

[west mural]

ss is long

[near delta]

Was dead af before

I'd be down

[west mural]

never seen in dead tbh

been playing since summer

[mild thunder]

i dont play anything that meshes with warrior or ww but we can make it work

[near delta]

Lol I've been thinking about picking up a new spec

[elfin surge]

why

[mild thunder]

pick up sv so i can play feral

pls n ty

[elfin surge]

arms war is all u need

[mild thunder]

comatose

[west mural]

never not play arms no matter what xD

[mild thunder]

arms is an 1800 n ditch spec right now

not even 1800 next season cause that tier set is a meme

[west mural]

doesn't matter u can tryhard glad on other spec and 1500 arms no matter what

[mild thunder]

i wanna dual-glad next season on sv and feral

[west mural]

i made 9 chars and tried all to some extent

arms is arms

i'd rather play healer than fury sometimes but arms is something else

even when it's not rewarding

[near delta]

Haven't been playing wow for very long and curious if there are some other specs I might mesh wish

[mild thunder]

if you enjoy ww, just play feral... it does similar stuff but more and more fun

[west mural]

try aug, it's weird when your other dps insta melts people while u fuck around

[elfin surge]

Dont waste your time, arms is the best.

[near delta]

Well 3 years is decently long lol

[near delta]

I tried it in sl and man I sucked at it

I feel like I'm inherently bad at dot classes could never get the hang of assa either

[west mural]

aug ww vs double melee 0-100 in 3 seconds xD

[near delta]

SP I'm fine with tho

[mild thunder]

sp is barely dots anymore

[near delta]

Yea

[mild thunder]

feral, affli and assa are the only real dot specs left

[near delta]

My brain is just big enough to keep up rend

[west mural]

ye keeping tags on dots as affli actualy requires u to have good addons

[mild thunder]

ww should have a dot to maintain

[near delta]

Fuck that

[mild thunder]

[near delta]

Although that's kinda sorta faeline

[mild thunder]

nah all i want for ww is no power strikes, no TotM rsk reset, no fls and actually good wdp and no ToD talents

wdp is such a fun ability, so lame that it's so, so, so bad

[near delta]

Don't want to press rsk more? Sketchy

[mild thunder]

it's so unrewarding

play rotation perfectly? nah, get rng resets

[near delta]

But buttons

I like pressing buttons

[mild thunder]

maximising agency > random procs

[fickle forge]

Enh sham

[mild thunder]

procs should compliment your rotation, not define your rotation

and getting random procs of your main ability is pretty much never fun

[near delta]

Too many buttons lol

[mild thunder]

ret

dh

uhdk

[fickle forge]

DH then

[mild thunder]

more buttons than arms

[near delta]

I abuse my wrists regularly with my job and hobbies

So I try to play things that aren't too high apm

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cap-doctor-meme-gif-23263243

[mild thunder]

feral is very low apm

ish

[near delta]

So much cap lol

[mild thunder]

ms, op, rend, execute, cs
felblade, chaos strike, blade dance, eye beam, throw glaive, immo aura, sigil of flame, essence break, fel rush

[west mural]

classes with nonspamable spells and more cast instead of insta are lower apm

[fickle forge]

I meeeaaan

I meeeeeeaaaaaaaaaan

Felblade and rush are basically just Charge lmao

Eye Beam is CS

[near delta]

Hamstring is a rotational button

[mild thunder]

you dont use charge for damage like you do with rush

[fickle forge]

You're right, you hammer rush on cd

[mild thunder]

i dont think anyone actually has a bind for hammy

[west mural]

lol

[near delta]

Throw glaive is just rend plus hamstring

[mild thunder]

everyone i know has had it macro'd to charge since pre-wod

[fickle forge]

But no class is complex because of their rotation

[mild thunder]

🧢

[near delta]

Wait what that's a thing????

[fickle forge]

Name 1

[near delta]

Why

[mild thunder]

feral

[near delta]

Why would anyone macro hamstring into charge

[fickle forge]

Rip Rake Rip Rake Rip Rake

[mild thunder]

save binds

[west mural]

selfexplanatory

[mild thunder]

if you're literally 1200

[near delta]

Thats dumb tho

[mild thunder]

not really

no downside

[fickle forge]

Other builders are literally just to proc talons lmao

[mild thunder]

just saves a bind

[west mural]

but u have bad ping i don't recomend

[mild thunder]

nope

[near delta]

Cause you don't want to waste charges vs casters

And you need to keep up hamstring

Am I taking crazy pills

[mild thunder]

it doesnt use both, you have to press on-target to apply hammy

like

charge

then press charge again to apply hs

in melee

[near delta]

Ah because you can't charge if too close

[thick reef]

Yes

[near delta]

Still sounds pretty dumb tbh

[frank knoll]

Lol what?

[near delta]

But fair

[fickle forge]

Charge off gcd

[near delta]

I dunno I've got plenty of room for binds

[thick reef]

Shield Charge + Hamstring

[west mural]

yes but u do charge if it;'s not in melee so if the enemy gets a bit of distance u waste charge

[near delta]

Okay @sharp meteor

[thick reef]

You missed @fallen estuary there too

[frank knoll]

That used to be a thing people said to do in guides

[near delta]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-getting-out-of-hand-star-wars-viceroy-jedi-sith-gif-11488732

[mild thunder]

you wanna make sure you always have every bleed applied to maximise TfB, wanna make sure everything is always snapshot with TF as often as possible, saving sudden ambush procs for rake, maintaining dire fixation, never wanna run out of BT, keep BrS charges on cooldown, make sure rip is always snapshot with BT, pooling energy for bites/BT, while weaving clones to maximise WA procs

[frank knoll]

Like YouTube videos

[mild thunder]

on top of more utility/cc than arms will see in its lifetime

[mild thunder]

spec has gotten more dull over time, it's just an 1800 n ditch spec for me atm

[near delta]

God the quality of this Chanel is so much better than it was

[frank knoll]

Fair
I switched from fury to arms and my mind has been blown with everything I can do

[near delta]

When i stopped coming like several months agon

[mild thunder]

that's because you left during the nazi arc

[frank knoll]

I actually think fury is harder to succeed with at higher levels

[near delta]

Yeah and the weird ass Archie argument

[mild thunder]

lol

[fickle forge]

This is some raid sim shit, I'm watching Snuppy literally yeet FF and DoTs into people as soon as he has talons proced

[near delta]

Where he got stun locked in here for hours

[frank knoll]

Sounds lit

[near delta]

Yeah lmao

[fickle forge]

DoT one dude, clone from the stun, swap to the other guy

Repeat

[mild thunder]

not even remotely, ferals i play with absolutely maximise all that

and the damage between a bad feral and a feral doing all that is HUGE

[near delta]

It's this meme

[fickle forge]

Probably, but I'm watching the highest ladder feral not give a fuck about it lmao

[mild thunder]

is snupy the highest ladder feral?

[near delta]

Don't think so

[mild thunder]

i legit dont know

i dont think he is

[fickle forge]

Idk if he is rn, but he was earlier in the season

[mild thunder]

or has been in a while

in shuffle?

[fickle forge]

3s

Hope I'm not giga caping rn

[frank knoll]

That guy is autistic about feral

He has like 8 ferals

[mild thunder]

i like snupy, but id say wodferal or axtin are a lot better tbh

[near delta]

What are you implying about @mud lmao

[mild thunder]

snupy being a chad and shifting more towards actual content... his YT channel has grown heaps since start of SL

[west mural]

what;s the point in having more than 2 of the same spec?

i mean i get cause of race or 1 test 1 tryhard

but i don't get more

[near delta]

Fuse and TJ are really good too

[fickle forge]

One day he'll beat me in 2s surely

🙏

[near delta]

I should try just sending it on feral

But gearing is annoying

[fickle forge]

Snupy is free elo for me... cause he Qs dumb shit like feral+destro 2s

[mild thunder]

i dont even remember the last time he played real 2s

he's either memeing or does viewer carries all day

[fickle forge]

Not sure either, but I yanked him and his priest in a double spear last time

Took em' down like the kitties they are

🙏

[mild thunder]

i cant respect you until you play 3s again, kargish

[frank knoll]

Okay who’s better

Bicmex

Or

[mild thunder]

bicmex

[frank knoll]

SSDS

[mild thunder]

bicmex is probably the best person playing wow rn

[frank knoll]

Better than Trill?

And Whazz?

[mild thunder]

probably

bicmex put all his points into adhd and autism and rng'd the best build at birth

[frank knoll]

Trill probably the most well rounded

He does high level PvP and PvE

[mild thunder]

trill plays evoker lmao

cringe

[fickle forge]

Talk to Artji man

And my uni schedule

[mild thunder]

anyone that's playing pvp at that level could also be a top top top tier raider

[frank knoll]

Yeah he’s an Aug abuser

Like I know Aug is good but I can’t sink myself to that level

[mild thunder]

bicmex is a sv-only thug chad

[near delta]

Oh you're in uni fair lol

[fickle forge]

I have work till 6 AM today man

[mild thunder]

dude why is cu ck banned

[frank knoll]

Workin night shift on the corner

[near delta]

I mean why was this channel wiped

[fickle forge]

Yeah I need a roof too

[fickle forge]

We accept all body shapes

[near delta]

Lol

[mild thunder]

bodyshaming arc vs nazi arc

who wins

[frank knoll]

What happened to the guy that hates Muslims

[fickle forge]

Nalipls arc wins

[mild thunder]

not sure if you mean me

[near delta]

Was that the guy that always posted the pic of that weight lifter

[frank knoll]

Bro

[near delta]

What? Lol

[frank knoll]

Not you, I think I’m thinking of Popo

[near delta]

Where you here for Bruin Gala?

[fickle forge]

Back when Cali got pre-kicked by Nali's moderator

[mild thunder]

seifcham stat prio arc wins

[fickle forge]

[mild thunder]

nope, i had a life back then

[near delta]

Lol

[mild thunder]

shame, i also hate muslims

[near delta]

I actually kinda have a live now so less wow time

[frank knoll]

Didn’t Nali give Borngood her premium Snapchat

So she could get free 2s carries and be his “gf”

[fickle forge]

They're in a relationship

[mild thunder]

average wow "couple"

[fickle forge]

I mean it's not the first time

Nali has broken up with others for failing to getting her rank 1

[mild thunder]

based

[elfin surge]

nali and borngood are married

[mild thunder]

egirls dont wanna play with mud bec he's cringe

[fickle forge]

Mud is too young

[elfin surge]

link the clip

[fickle forge]

Desi will never accept

[frank knoll]

MUD is in highschool

[mild thunder]

wtf?

when did he graduate primary school?

[elfin surge]

https://clips.twitch.tv/GiftedSnappyPotatoRalpherZ

[frank knoll]

It’s not hard to do in America. Legit there’s people who graduate HS who can’t read

[mild thunder]

"yea, she pumps" 🤓 🤓 🤓

"he is, he's mad" 🤓 🤓 🤓

bro people with voices like that actually just piss me off

[near delta]

Gotta make mud is so annoying your sub sound lol

[fickle forge]

@elfin surge

[near delta]

Lmfaoooo

[frank knoll]

Cringe music too

Can’t spell crap without RAP

[near delta]

Hip hop is wonderful music your loss

[mild thunder]

mfs will call rap bad then listen to phonk

[frank knoll]

Only the classics like Lynnard Skinnard and Led Zeppelin brother

[sharp meteor]

Hmm.

[sharp meteor]

Yes.

[frank knoll]

Swag is for boys, class is for men

[mild thunder]

i cant tell which part you're agreeing with lmao

[frank knoll]

Phonk was made for sigma males like myself

[sharp meteor]

Real.

[elfin surge]

[mild thunder]

phonk was made for 12 year olds that wanna pretend they're andrew tate (sex traffickers)

like @elfin surge

[near delta]

The people that only like rappers like Mac Miller, eminem, G Eazy, Macklemore, and Yelawolf lol

[elfin surge]

?

drift phonk owns

[frank knoll]

You’re a sigma male, that’s why they don’t like you MUD. There intimidated and insecure about your rating

[near delta]

What is phonk?

[fickle forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5iI8lBADRs&ab_channel=MemeScreen

[near delta]

Like I know the old music from Memphis or whatever

[mild thunder]

noise

[near delta]

Did it get appropriated by zoomers

[elfin surge]

yea

[near delta]

Sadge

[frank knoll]

I had a homeboy that looked just like G Eazy lmao. Fav rapper was Drake, said he’s the best musician of all time lmao

[near delta]

Lmao

[frank knoll]

Spaceghostpurrp invented Phonk actually

[near delta]

Phonk is from the early 90s

[elfin surge]

https://youtu.be/v4d5uzrxFgs?si=Fz7xATgTcQdgvHdP

[mild thunder]

99% of people that listen to rap are broke 28 year olds that wear wife-beaters, have 2 kids, a girlfriend that hates them and spend all day smoking pot and playing CoD

[near delta]

Haven't thought about sgp ina long time

[frank knoll]

Phonk as an internet thing @near delta

[near delta]

Ah i see

[frank knoll]

Comes from blog hip hop

Like the 2011 era

[near delta]

It's the most popular genre in America at least

Or close to it

[mild thunder]

maybe used to be

doubt it is anymore

[frank knoll]

Rap is going down

Country is going up

[elfin surge]

drift phonk for gym gains

everyone knows this

[mild thunder]

have you guys heard australian rap? lmao shit makes me cringe so fucking hard

[frank knoll]

Country A&R guys realized that they can get good looking country artists with tattoos and have them sing about drugs and kids will love it. As opposed to the boomer American flag country

[mild thunder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilwlbJNcJTk

this shit actually makes me wanna kms

[frank knoll]

If it’s like British rap it’s probably lit

[mild thunder]

after killing everyone in the video

[frank knoll]

The only music I know out of Australia is Tame Impala and King Gizzard

[mild thunder]

australian accents were never designed to sing anything except Waltzing Matilda (greatest song of all time)

[near delta]

Don't forget about the Chats

https://youtu.be/j58V2vC9EPc?si=6oLDL0pFzWajo8xI

[west mural]

i'm not clicking on anything u guys put here, it's melting my brain

please, stop

[near delta]

I mean outlaw country was really big in the 70s and 80s and was all about drugs and thangs

[mild thunder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqtttbbYfSM

greatest song ever sung

[frank knoll]

Yeah nobody knew about that until recently

[mild thunder]

🫡

🇦🇺 🦘

[frank knoll]

They’re bringing outlaw country back which is cool. These dudes basically sing about the same stuff rapper talk about

[frank knoll]

This rules

[near delta]

There aren't enough of the diaspora in Australia to come with something as awesome as Grime lol

[frank knoll]

Grime rules

[west mural]

bro if i wanna listen to that sort of music i have some friends that do that kind of shit , iget them drunk in the wood on a fire

no thx i'll pass

[frank knoll]

I love patois when it’s not fake

[near delta]

https://youtu.be/RqQGUJK7Na4?si=kNLIsAp8xE2Yig0c

[frank knoll]

Stormzy rules

[near delta]

Bro have you ever listened to Das Racist?

[mild thunder]

hearing crowds sing waltzing matilda is the only time i feel the slightest ounce of patriotism

[frank knoll]

Yeah I used to back in the day

“Fake patois”

[near delta]

Yup

https://youtu.be/24I3bmgjClo?si=Xw35MoityNIt9NYK

[frank knoll]

Banger song

That was like, my senior year of highschool haha

[near delta]

Lol

[mild thunder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqSA-SY5Hro

[frank knoll]

When I would wear bootleg supreme to school

[mild thunder]

watchu guys think of this banger

[frank knoll]

Bro fuck that guy

He went on Joe Rogan

[near delta]

I was gonna say there's a lot of political stuff going on there

But I think it's a good song

[west mural]

while we tribalistic in nature i'd not nurture that 2 much since it can and has gone wrong on many ocasions xD

[mild thunder]

idk what's more cringe, that song or fantano's review of it

[frank knoll]

Its just annoying at this point

[mild thunder]

nah based song tbh

fuck them rich men north of richmond

(idk where that is)

[near delta]

Hes referring to the coastal elites

[mild thunder]

northern states?

[near delta]

North of Richmond means out of what's considered the South

It's some loaded shit lol

[mild thunder]

ye thought so

[west mural]

living in the US and complaining about rich people is next lvl cringe xD

[frank knoll]

I always thought he was referring to Washington DC

[mild thunder]

living in the US is next lvl cringe

[frank knoll]

My wife wanted to move to the UK

[mild thunder]

🔪

[frank knoll]

Because she thinks it “safer”

[mild thunder]

innit, bruv?

[west mural]

it's one of the ONLY countries where u can actualy get rich and is made for rich people

[frank knoll]

Yeah nooo

[near delta]

Where do you live galalunk?

[frank knoll]

“Hand over your crepes innnit” 🔪🔪🔪

[frank knoll]

Florida

[west mural]

move to romania, it's actualy quite safe

[mild thunder]

there are lots of countries you can get rich, and lots of countries where there's less punishment for not being born rich

[near delta]

I mean we're pretty stratified the gap between the richest and poorest is insane

[west mural]

i might think u can get really rich rly fast in other countries but not rly

[near delta]

Ah gotcha I'm from SC originally

[thick reef]

Romania, land of the gypsies
Safe

No, you just want my wallet and/or firstborn

[frank knoll]

Yeah the problem is, most people in the US are one bad day from being homeless

[west mural]

gypsies don't steal from romanians anymore, they went west for that xD

[near delta]

One missed paycheck

[frank knoll]

Yeah

[west mural]

it's safe, trust me

[frank knoll]

No social safety nets

[mild thunder]

especially for sex traffickers

[west mural]

ye , for them 2

xD

[frank knoll]

If you don’t have a support system your donezo

[west mural]

weird world

[mild thunder]

there's only 2 sex traffickers in all of romania?

[thick reef]

They moved west

[west mural]

i think there's 500k people working in the sex industry

[mild thunder]

isnt it a massive issue there, hence all the very strict regulations around how they can be detained?

[thick reef]

Don't sleep where you shit

[west mural]

probably online kind

[frank knoll]

Lol fuck Romania

[west mural]

hey , i'm just saying it's safe

nothing more xD

[mild thunder]

why would you live in the US? i thought the west has fallen

all western women know is twerk, eat chip and lie

[frank knoll]

I’ve been there, idk man

It’s about as shitty as Albania

Granted was 13 years old at the time

[west mural]

issues are many , but it's safe

meritocracy doesn't exist

it's chill doe

[frank knoll]

I felt really sketched out in Belgrade Serbia

[west mural]

u don't bother people , no1 bothers u

serbia also safe

[frank knoll]

Not if ur Albanian

[mild thunder]

[west mural]

adapt xD

if i go tou UAE i adapt xD

[frank knoll]

If you’re American don’t go to Serbia

They don’t like Americans there

[west mural]

i wonder why xD

[mild thunder]

who does

[near delta]

I met this guy at a party who actually lives in Saudi Arabia

[frank knoll]

Also dudes walking around mask off with swaztikas

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/derek-vinyard-american-history-x-eyebrow-raise-smile-yeah-gif-17858519

[frank knoll]

Honestly
When I was in Australia everyone was super cool

[west mural]

i'm pretty sure there will be a countermovement in the west with national socialist agendas and i do fear that

with all the imigration and problems

[mild thunder]

australians are gigachads, that's why... we talk shit, we'll pull some pranks about dropbears and shit but that's it

[frank knoll]

They were like super interested and asking me all kinds of questions about the states

[mild thunder]

what problems..?

[frank knoll]

How many slaves does he own?

[west mural]

yea , exactly what problems?

everything is fine

[near delta]

None lol he works at King Abdullahs university

I did meet a guy several years ago that was actually Saudi had this ridiculous sports car

[mild thunder]

idk, i asked you

you're the one that mentioned immigration and problems

[near delta]

A lot of the problems are sort of made up ones

[frank knoll]

Yeah

Imagined boogeymen

[west mural]

well, certaint people belive and feel that there is a problem with that, i don;'t live there but from what i hear it's not as good as it was

where i live no1 comes, we poor

"poor"

[near delta]

Your governor is so good at pointing those out lol

[mild thunder]

wdym? the radical, post-modern, neo-marxist leftists opened the border to let in all the illegals, biden is destroying the economy, 500,000 babies are going missing every year, hilary clinton is murdering people on the ground in benghazi right now, obama is gay, trump is being framed, the election was stolen etc. etc.

all real

[near delta]

Tru

[frank knoll]

Rick Scott was worse for Muslims

[near delta]

I forgot about him yeah he was horriblen

[frank knoll]

He wanted to ban Muslims from entering Florida and deport the ones that live here

[west mural]

when i say the west i don;t necesarry mean us, UK , france is also west

[near delta]

I was actually worried about DeSantis until the Disney stuff

[frank knoll]

Bro I’m a US citizen you can’t fuckin do that lmao

Voldemort lookin ass

[mild thunder]

the french get the smallest little bill passed in parliament and act like the monarchy is beheading dissenters

[near delta]

Wtf never heard about that

[west mural]

and they had a certaint lifestyle wich changes cause of the people they let in

[mild thunder]

france is racist as fuck ngl

[frank knoll]

Yeah he’s a big joke, the F150 thin blue line guys love Desantis tho

[mild thunder]

i hate islam as much as the next redneck, but some of france's anti-muslim shit is wild

[mild thunder]

mmm, im hungwy

[west mural]

could be, i think racism is a thing that won't change untill u get people of all races mixing and not having any social, economic, political ,religious difference

or any kind of difference for that matter

if u get along with other people u won't be racist

[frank knoll]

I kinda get it

[west mural]

it's stupid cause it's not the race but what comes with people from other regions

[mild thunder]

most racism can be solved by early childhood socialisation

[west mural]

idd

[frank knoll]

I don’t agree but they get some insane mfs that immigrate there

[west mural]

people are racist because they associate race with behaviour

[mild thunder]

their news outlets also massively exaggerate and focus on a lot of anti-muslim stories because of the pre-existing anti-muslim sentiment

[west mural]

so it's a people being not educated problem

islamophobia and racism are totally different, yet people mix them up

or asociate them

[mild thunder]

france is racist

flat out

[frank knoll]

Yeah 100%

[west mural]

xD 100% lol

drawn conclusion

u pay for the colonies u had and the people u subjugated

[frank knoll]

They take a few stories and over exaggerate them and make it out like it’s a widespread issue

[mild thunder]

and when people like the french make blatantly racist laws or bans or whatever, it makes real conversations about islam wayyy more difficult

[west mural]

problem is the people that did it don't their offspring do, not ok

[frank knoll]

As a Muslim I recognize that extremism absolutely exists

[mild thunder]

tbf are you muslim or "muslim"

[frank knoll]

Ehhh

I have tattoos and drink sometimes, I don’t wear a beard

[mild thunder]

cutting the corners of your beard, tsk tsk tsk

[frank knoll]

I have a mustache rn

[mild thunder]

haram

[west mural]

bruv, idk, can't rly take u serious then i'm more muslim than u then and i am not

xD

jk

[frank knoll]

So yeah It’s more of a cultural thing for me

I don’t really go to Mosque since I’ve been on my own

[mild thunder]

my problem is when people will use "extremism is a problem" to pretend that religious fundamentalism - the types that are very heavily anti-lgbt, very misogynistic, uber socially conservative etc - isnt a problem

that religious fundamentalism is just extremism of another kind

[frank knoll]

My sister doesn’t wear a Hajab

My mom does though
Family doesn’t really give af though super chill

[west mural]

i don't see how western culture and religious fundamentalism are compatible

at least for abrahamic religions

[mild thunder]

they arent

[west mural]

it''s not just muslim, i don;'t see it for judaism and christianity also

[frank knoll]

Yeah that’s why Christian fundamentalists end up living in weird compounds

Because they can’t cope

[west mural]

cause it's not compatbile

[frank knoll]

Yeah

[mild thunder]

christian fundamentalists still get away with wild shit here, like teaching creationism instead of evolution in schools lmao

[west mural]

that';s a crontradiction in itself

still not compatible

they let them live their fantasy but u';re outside the culture

[elfin surge]

warrior pvp chat

[west mural]

aye

[mild thunder]

warrior /pol/ chat

[frank knoll]

MUD is a Christian fundamentalist

[west mural]

arms war needs buffs

[mild thunder]

mud is a 12yr old reddit atheist

[elfin surge]

i look to garrosh

[frank knoll]

That’s why those RBG gamer girls didn’t like him

He told them of their sinful adulterous ways

[mild thunder]

isnt mud a legit tate fanboy?

@elfin surge confirm or deny

[west mural]

man, i miss his character, it was funny

now he is serious and boring

[mild thunder]

i dont, it got boring

every second YT short was a tate short

now im back to watching sopranos through YT reels

[elfin surge]

[west mural]

he can be funny , uhave to give him that

[frank knoll]

Tate identifies as a Muslim

[west mural]

if not for that he would not be popular

[mild thunder]

honestly shocked so many muslims fell for it

but i shouldnt be

[west mural]

it's so funyn to be

to me

he is a contradiction of muslim values

to some extent

[mild thunder]

he's misogynistic, just the wrong kind

[elfin surge]

what does misogynistic mean anymore man

[frank knoll]

I think in my house religion came second to extreme Albanian Patriotism

[elfin surge]

ppl throw that word around

[mild thunder]

having a derogatory view of women

[west mural]

there's also a super contradiction to where pimps consider themselfs masculine, but pimping is actualy making women earn the bread for you, wich is the exact most oposite thing to masculinity

[frank knoll]

Like my dad had Albanian shit all over the house lmao

[elfin surge]

people who prefer a traditional style marriage get called misogynistic

[frank knoll]

Yeah by terminally online they/thems

[mild thunder]

because that kind of marriage usually entails some kind of submission from the wife

[frank knoll]

Nobody seriously believes that

[west mural]

it's all very subjective and therefore useless

[frank knoll]

Idk man, my dad tried to act macho in the marriage but lemme tell you it was the other way around

[west mural]

when a culture wants to dictate every little aspect of your life, just leave

[frank knoll]

That man be dodging shoes and plates

[mild thunder]

least abusive albanian marriage

[west mural]

when people think women are submissive, they don;t understand women are the smart roleplayers who satisfy their agendas, and i don;'t mean in a bad way

[mild thunder]

i mean, people that want "traditional marriages" in that sense are usually appealing to the bible verse that tells women to submit to their husbands... and growing up in/around communities in which that was the norm, that's absolutely what they do

which, they should be allowed to do

but it's cringe and boring, and probably not the best thing for society

[west mural]

yea but u cannot force some1 into submission in a mariage

[magic wing]

Mf is top tier bussinessman

[west mural]

that's not how it works with curent laws in the west atleast

[magic wing]

Muslim who fucks 10 women a week lmao

[mild thunder]

it's not about "force", it's about women that are born into and raised in these communities that never experience anything else

[west mural]

he needed the support and following of billion+ people

[magic wing]

Next he will say he has indian roots

[west mural]

could be worse, but it's sad when it can be prevented

no1 should submit to anyone unless u want to and are not coerced

[elfin surge]

u guys are going off rn

[mild thunder]

always

[magic wing]

A good woman is naturally submissive if she sees you as

[mild thunder]

a good woman is a self-sufficient adult that can rely on herself

[west mural]

many litteraly tell u they want to, they hope to be that way

normal thing

self-sufficiency is not enough, there are other needs that if are met increase quality of life

otherwise there would be no mariage

[mild thunder]

self-sufficiency is the starting point

[west mural]

idd , it's a must

otherwise u lacking

[mild thunder]

idk why anyone would marry anyone that isnt a properly developed and adept adult (people do it all the time)

[west mural]

becase u talking about ideals and not every1 meets that standard

[elfin surge]

arent the divorced rates above 50% now

90% initiated by the woman

[west mural]

40-50 in us

[mild thunder]

pretty sure those stats are super skewed depending on how you look at them... if you go beyond the ~5 year mark then success rate increases massively

[west mural]

that tells a dark story about how that culture is being run atm

sometimes i feel the US is a social study group xD

[mild thunder]

and divorces being initiated by women is just a byproduct of how marriages tend to fall apart - marriages break, women bear the burden of child-rearing and have sacrificed career potential for homemaking so have more to gain from divorcing and filing for child support

[frank knoll]

Yeah but a lot of dudes are shitty husbands

[magic wing]

Not in money way

[frank knoll]

Some of the stories I hear man

[west mural]

i don't belive it's the women's or men's fault

[frank knoll]

Like, my wife has a friend
She had a baby and gained some weight

[mild thunder]

it's the kids fault

yes, you are why your parents got divorced, lil Timmy

[west mural]

i belive it's an agenda problem

[mild thunder]

get fucked

[frank knoll]

Husband won’t touch her now

[west mural]

when the army doesn't follow orders, it;s the general at fault

[elfin surge]

Low T men & combative wife

[frank knoll]

And just blatantly simps on onlyfans all of the time

[mild thunder]

mud is so annoying 🤓

[west mural]

when your god is money, this tends to happen xD

[frank knoll]

But of course he won’t initiate divorce because of the $$ factor

She’s a nice cute girl too and a good mom

Dude is a NEET, vapes all day and works at a cell phone store

Then she saw that he was messaging 18 year olds he’s like 29

[mild thunder]

i was on his side until this

[frank knoll]

So yeah they’re getting a divorce

[elfin surge]

women that vape 🤢

[frank knoll]

Doesn’t take care of the kid either

[elfin surge]

guys who vape are pussies

[mild thunder]

anyone that vapes or smokes is cringe as fuck

[frank knoll]

But then he’s the type of dude who will go on some redpill thing and complain about marriage

[frosty nexus]

yea true i only smoke crystal meth

[frank knoll]

My dad smokes Hookah literally every day lmao

[west mural]

they tend to use vapes cause u can't smoke in certaint areas, idk why they allow anything other than air to be inhaled

[elfin surge]

the occasional cigar is coo tho

[mild thunder]

alright tony soprano

[elfin surge]

[mild thunder]

mud really do think he be smoking cigars and drinking scotch

[frank knoll]

My uncle would bring these cheap hookahs from Albania. I would sell them to kids at high school for like 45 bucks a pop

[simple rock]

what kind of cigars can you afford with 2s boosts

[magic wing]

Beta males will never experience real love

[elfin surge]

im literally a wine expert

[west mural]

it's a cool combo and i don't smoke and drink heavy more than 4 times a year

[magic wing]

Its impossible

[mild thunder]

he bought his last cigar with my prime sub

[west mural]

what is beta, that;s also very woo woo

xD

[elfin surge]

🍷🧐hmm yesss

[west mural]

where do all these relative terms come from

[magic wing]

Weak, simp man

No spine

[mild thunder]

an outdated study of wolf hierarchies

[elfin surge]

@fickle forge

[frank knoll]

MUD drinks franzia

[magic wing]

Basically never says no to anybody and is a bitch

[elfin surge]

literally karg

[frank knoll]

It’s not good to be combative all of the time lol

[mild thunder]

literally karg

[frank knoll]

You won’t go very far in life

[magic wing]

Also emotional all the time

[fickle forge]

What?

[elfin surge]

sup

[frank knoll]

It’s human to have emotions

[west mural]

u can't say no in the police or army or secret service in certaint situations, i don't think they beta xD

[fickle forge]

I got tagged with no context

[magic wing]

Its manly not to show them

Only to your bros

[frank knoll]

I think just take care of your family and get money

[elfin surge]

morthranf was talking about u

is all

[west mural]

idk man, sometimes i think it is manly to show emotions that can fuck u but u don't care

[magic wing]

lol

[west mural]

it depends on what u are after

[frank knoll]

That’s “Alpha” the rest is just weird internet stuff for insecure guys with no bitches