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Honestly seems baseline too idk
My bad, tagged the wrong Kiro š¤£
Venruki said frost will be bad so the nematode mage crowd will all reroll
Thatās a lot of value
lowkey might actually start dropping sharpen
Shiet dis good
No
Whatās the one that gives blade storm a snare
Why would u drop sharpen
50% heal reduce
Iād drop it fighting rogue mage in 2s
Whats safeguard is that new honir talent
Sounds like conduit for intervene from shadowlands
obvi
Or is it alredi in game i forget
disarm should be baseline 100%
Wish they just removed sharpen 
only for warrior tho 
When the wow governments ran by mages and warlocks... warriors are oppressed
S tier
I wanna see oneshits š or trash season
prob not gunna be bursty
š
Is fury good
Feral druid warrior
who cares?
Gonna be useless vs ranged then
Prots not good they need buffs
I want ez 2.1k for the enchant
I got 2.2k in 2s this season spamming 2 buttons
Nerf prot more 
Remove sharpen, make MS reduce healing by 50% baseline 

Prob sharpen, Safeguard, shouts
Or I'll just admit I'm trash at intervening and not run Safeguard 
Dropping sharpen into like disc specifically disc rmp seems fine otherwise ehhhh.
Ill take 40%
even nerfed and even tho it rips your ms off
50% for a few seconds when they HAVE to heal
is bigly
Id say sharpen+safeguard, shout
How much
i thought it was 20 an dsecond charge but longer cd
2 charges of intervene, gives 20% DR for 5 seconds, but 10s longer cd on vene
But is 40s cd
but yeah defs gon be sick into umm casters
dont care ab sharpen into rmp
tbh
You take sharpen for the 50% heal reduce,i take sharpen for 15% MS hit increse
ya its all immunities shileding and mobility
"We are not the same."
š¤£
a bannered go holds more value
Yeah i was gonna type thay
But my adhhd mind forgot
Didnāt Storm of Destruction get some changes too?
No way you'll take it tho so who cares?
If i was ceo of pvp id make all the good changes
missing bladestorm (fury/prot)
Like nerfing rogues and mages
Buffing warriors
Making the game melee cpeave instead of caster cleave
So that i can cleave

Huh? Did they remove that stuff
I thought this was 10.2 changes havenāt been keeping up
Why are alliance races so great compared to horde
They should of made some more ballances. Pvp i mean
When playing Arms in 2v2, how long should you typically hold Colossus Smash for to line it up with Bladestorm or Avatar? Iām guessing most of the time you should just send it as you want as many used as possible with the cd reduction from rage spent
I've usually just sent it roughly off cd as long as I wasn't gonna get peeled/disengaged on.
Aka don't press it if you have no charge/leap/bolt.
Cool thing about playing Arms is never being the target
So I can chill in Battle stance unless I need to intervene
Nice one, ty! Makes so much sense to line up gap closers with CS but thatās the kind of thing Iām still learning, appreciate the tip
Basically it's just make sure you have mobility/cc when you have damage
At this point where the Horde and Alli have had a truce since what BfA? Blizz should just let you pick a race and then a faction
being kited isn't ideal but you wanna minimize being kited during windows of damage aka smash ava
Agreed
If TR and avatar are macrod together, does TR gain the damage bonus from avatar? Or does it need to be used after avatar for the benefit?
Uh, I think it should assuming avatar is first as it's off global.
The initial damage, mind you. The dot benefits regardless as stuff updates dynamically.
Okay thanks
Just take racials away and do thisā¦. I hate the āhere you can group with people and do m+ and rated pvp and dungeons together⦠but you canāt que up for anything togetherā
If you can trade and do all that, might as well make it open for all
YEP
As someone who doesn't pvp/ hasn't in a long time (as far back as legion) I'm assuming it'll be hard for me to hit 1800 rating?
Is arms the better pvp choice for having MS?
I want the helm xmog
Really?
Can you do dmg and use defensives?
Yes and yes
Fury has slaughterhouse.
Do you often line your healers?
Both are a super cozy time for 1800
If not, its free
If there's no stairs then I should be good not losingš¤£
I always thought 1800 was out of reach for a pve andy
1800 is a joke if you want it
Is that something I can solo queue or do I need a team? Secondly if I can solo queue, do I go 2s or 3s
Lmaooooooo
1800 is like 5 pull ups
Aight boys we got content xD
Got 1800 smashing my face on the keyboard on warr
I didnāt even know what I was doing
Lol. So you're saying there's a chance
Yeah dude
Idk, I got it in shuffle in like 2 days
0-1800 is all about just doing a lot of damage
Mmr blessing
Alright nice. I really want that red and white helm xmog
Meanwhile healer going 3/3 and losing CR 
Mmr was 100 higher than cr
Just so I'm absolutely sure, this is the 1800 pvp set xmog right
Yes
Perfect thanks
I thought I could get that from m+ but apparently that's just a glowy effect
Swear to god wowheads becoming a malware ad site
Scrolling down an article and i get a scam ad to take surveys for a "prize"
Like a popup ad
Fucking stupid
....yes? I couldn't think of a dumber name at the time and it just stuck
All my characters are now just car parts
Theres a dude out there nam3d diarrhea
Exhaust pipe when? @stuck glen
Looks like, Mud. 
Catalytic converter?
It's probably already stolen tbh
I made a easy 130$
Yea ofc its stolen
Bros gaming from the exhaust pipe but im strapped to the windshield 
My warriors name is actually wiperblade, just wiping you off my screen

If you only care about helm and not shoulders, technically you can get it at 1600 if you didn't get your free tier achieve peice yet
Something tells me that @elfin surge is well versed in these, and copper wiring
Yea, mud strips the copper cables to my house cutting out my power
I actually used to be a driver at a place that had like 6 or 8 of those stolen š
Wasn't me 
I did heroic sark on my hunter but I haven't done aotc on my warrior... I think I should still be able to get it
Interesting
Yeah apparently the 1600 thing was unintended
I discovered I suck at warrior, so now I'm just working on getting 1800 on other things.
And leveling some things.
I discovered I suck at warrior, so now I'm just working on getting 1800 on other things.
And leveling some things.
just won a 4/6 boomie, aug, mage lobby with hpal, priest
and spear was actually a good decision to pick
Am I famous now? 
destro lock who went 1/6 telling me to go blood dk instead of mm hunter, obviously i went mm hunter, and he decided to dmg healer and blood dk, there is no need to say we lost, and then he writes me this
Lmao I assumed he was talking about an unholy
he lossed the hpala and died like a bitch on ruins map
this is what i would do to players like him, who talks shit after being completely trash
Spanish?
it's crazy cuz ... he afk casts on mid map not even using port or portal and he decides to use portal when pala is casting tyr xD and literally i rotated a whole cc chain on hunter to no even scratch this guy, but my spanish boy is so uncarriable that he cannot be even boosted
lol
I donāt know what mancazo is but payaso is clown
be like whoās the actual payaso
Don't think you cast Tyr onto people. Pretty sure it's an hpal self buff
i meant like just being casteed
Blood can explode if disarmed at the right time but good grief. 
I guess he can't reach mm hunter.
mm was not kiting he just stood in one place
So you were playing at 1400?
he stood there cuz of earthen wall
the blood dk is the 6th best in the world 2.3 k he gonna be r1 
@tribal hazel get good and get 2.3 with prot warr u get r1
@fallen estuary https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/17/23921535/dead-space-remake-xbox-game-pass-halloween
God damn
it
Yeah Blood DK is a terrible target
Thereās a reason that guy was 1/6 lol
Thinkin about trying out Destro
Fun?
Yeah.
jes
155k deathstrike, how
Yeah that guy is sweaty, tanks +30 keys as well
lol
The amount of conquest you get is pretty pisspoor lol
yap
130 conquest for 1 hour is trash
Or longer tbh
You guys ready for Soloque RBGs, I bet those are gonna be like 1hr long queues
there is no excuse on not pressing karma btw
solo q rbgs arent coming next ssn right
he was like 20% hp and he just afked on deffs
I thought it was next season
dk finished him for the pussy he is
It will be a brawl
Content creators be like ā here what you should main for 10.2 solo shuffle RBGsā
Then maybe actual rated rbg solo in next expac
venruki is mistaken
I donāt even bother watching
Itās going to be the same specs that have always been good in RBGs
boomies
affli locks
I like regular rbgs not sure i'll play solo queue
I def won't with it just being a brawl.
But also yeah, best part of RBGs is working with the team
bro are these halers in ss part of an elaborate meme to tank ppls rating
im convinced
this healer just died every single round within 15 seconds
intervene? Fear? Rally? Shockwave? Stormbolt?
ALL OF ITA
used all of it
several times
stg
now.
i dont stream myself play or clip
(In the starting room)
but i have no reason to cap

Question is how he stormbolted in waiting room
That's how I got 2400 
Shuffle is aids, troll losses happen but so far i've had no issues climbing through the ranks. Some lobbies are just stacked against you
i wouldnt care if I could get a lobby frequently
but having to wait 15 minutes for that shit is dumb
tragic ngl
ur probably a high ahh rating
15 mins sounds like a dream
im only 1900
fr wtf
That's like I woke up at 3 am and decided to queue, times right there
But even then it's still longer most days 
nobody i know would wilfully touch this game so
I sit 45 minute qs, say I 3-3 every lobby thats 21 hours of sitting qs to complete Legend 
i cant man
dafuck
bro is him
Gonna give up now? You're halfway there! š
Half way? I need 86 more wins
Well count the lobbies you had to do to get up to the rating for them to start counting
He's not even halfway there
Well so much for motivation
Thatās crazy
Death and decay itself does nothing, and neither does its honor talent. 
At least it makes one of your important strikes cleave more.
How often can you do that?
I'm halfway there at 7 
Only on low health targets if they're standing in a clump of pets.
Blood is really pretty bad at everything except healing itself and slowing enemies.
I get laughed at for playing this game
Boomer dead game
I blame Blizzard for this
They shit the bed and now we sleep in it
if i get another 5/6 solo shuffle that doesnt go through im ddosing all blizzard servers
Well sheet, you know how many people missing queues when they 45 mins? Of course you have to go through 10 of those before you get into a lobby
No debuff for dodgin so healers that are bored/tilted can sit there declining them all day. 
F i can't do solo shuffle cause i don't have 434 ilvl stupid pve andy
It takes like one day to get 437 pvp ilev from honor gear.
oh lol, i did 2 games and i bought 4 pcs already, okay
can we please remove FUCKING draws from this shit
i killed the ww trash before mage and it was a draw, could've easy 6 it
and another blood dk in the lobby lol
@sharp meteor dis u
Hmm?
I'm not that BDK if that's what you're asking. š
Lol same
All of my friends play League as their competitive game
āBro you still play WoW lmao?ā
As if League isn't just as bad or worse. 
It has a prize pool that makes it actually worth ro invest in
Sure, but the overwhelming majority of people are never gonna see any return.
So that's kind of an odd thing to mention.
unless you are top 0.0001% player, you'll never get anything in lol but mental issues
Yeah, exactly.
Like, if you enjoy it, sure, but to consider it an investment just strikes me as odd because I've known people who saw it that way when they've spent like a decade floating between gold and mid plat.
My buddy in colleges roommate was a diamond league player
We would go over to chill and he had his fucking league of legends command center set up by the living room and would be screaming at his computer while we were trying to hang out
Iām like āyou gotta talk to your boy heās scaring the hoesā
early signs of redactation
This guy was also 30 at the time (we were 21) and was manager at a Moes Southwest Grill
So we would get hooked up sometimes which was cool
At least be a pve lord, cmon man. Easy ilvl in pve too
it's a fresh 70 reroll
in any case, what 2 other pvp talents should i be using other than slaugherhouse? i can't seem to find it
Bloodrage pretty nice.
Then trance or enduring I thinks.
Sudden Death also decent pickup if you gonna get ignored.
If it's just for a single round.
Let's just say it's potential vs literally no potential

But I mean same with any sport
Ehh idk people making some wow stuff better off than most people inting in the pits of plat-dia with aspirations of being pros
but yeah it really is just
like an odd excuse to play a game a lot
I had league friends who wouldn't try hots because it was small and less competitive
and then tried it and only wanted to play it for a few months
it was weird hearing them sound happy
Death Wish I think you mean
Oops yeah.
Can't cancel it so gotta be careful
but if it only comes out for a round or two people usually don't notice or expect it
is this solo queue always 12 min+ zzz
Yep
yeah bro, more like WFH queue
amirite?
i had 2 healers today give up on round 2 throw the whole match š¦
30 min +
40+
50+
60+
It'll pretty regularly be 15-35.
yea mine are typically longer bc im doing 2's with them lol so its pointless
Even shitpick specs nobody plays have relatively long queues because healers are scarce.
I dunno... people say spec matters but like 3 or 4 days ago I had a lobby that had 3 arms warriors in it š¤
Speak for yourself
Oh, it does.
Kind of wild because my specs are quite a bit less popular. 
Although I do have more than a few instant pops.
They often go for 20+
Isnāt sv like⦠the least popular dps in the game?
Or at least very, very low pop
My specs have 70 and 86 players, Surv has 2691 
Oh, tanks
All the system tries to do is avoid duplicates
Idk how the tank algorithm works
They're just dps with a limit of 1 per lobby.
With the exception of prot pala which is a healer and always paired with each other.
(and don't count towards the tank limit, so you can have double prot pala blood for instance).
Yea, Iāve had double prot pala prot warr lobbies
Wanted to kill myself so bad
Playing arms lol
Hellish.
There's always one spec who just can't deal with it.
No heals on arms warr is a feels bad
Arms jsut dying to air like 40 seconds in
hunter dying 0.2 seconds after turtle fades
Imo prot pala can't replace healers, just slot them in as dps
Pre sure I went 3-3 cause one of the prot palas was cognitively impaired
Ya so prot ladder so dead it'll be like some 2.3k #2 on ladder gigachad who sat a 44 minute queue
doming a 500 cr male human player
6-0 for 0 pts
Guardian in shuff probs least cringe spec.
It just sits there and clones while doing half the dmg of feral with no ms.
I havenāt seen one in ages but sometimes itās just omega fucking dumb in PvP
They're really good in wpvp/bgs.
My fury queues are like 10 mins max, my Arms queues have been upwards of 20
This is at 1800-2k
I feel like if I were to level like a frost DK or something Iād have 5 min queues
oh waht the rating is per spec?
i was gonna try arms but i already got some rating as fury and the queue sucks it's too late to turn back
Yes, so if you're 1600 as Arms then go Fury you'll be back to 0 CR.
Although the system does seem to let a bit of mmr roll over.
probably why iāve been seeing so many furys
furries
specs also fairly chill until you start running into good players
goes from being easy tier to hard as fuck tier (because it doesn't have much depth and is kinda poo)
fury just doesnt have the toolkit to outplay anything
Just do damage until people outplay themselves. 
idk how people main fury 
fury is for players that dont let blizz dictate to them who, what & how to play. plus the sexiest thing in the game is/are the great big two handers strapped across a fury warriors back š
bro touch grass
wtf is this sentence
if you cant read plain english go back to school ffs.
yea i dont think it's because he cant read it
he did read it and lost half his brain cells
@mild thunder @fallen estuary @sharp meteor let him cook
just another galatard lol
just another galatard lol
Calls me Galatard get talks about how nice two phallic shaped weapons look pleasing to him
In a sexual manner
it's the sexiest thing in the game š
my two handers arent phallic shaped. looks like you are projecting again little galatard. try harder š
poor little galatard. i understand this this chatroom is probably the highpoint of your life. pitiful but if thats all you have gotta respect it though...
isn't your highpoint highschool
nah there was college sports after that š
his highpoint was kicking dogs
damn bench warmer in college unlucky
ahh here come the rest of the "cool kids aka galatards"
actually 4 year lettered but hey keep flailing and failing it suits u
who unironically uses phrases like cool kids
the cool kids, obviously
u guys play wow better than i, np but dont go outside of wow. you really cant compete š
i actrually dont play wow rn
but you have enough to be a galafanboy
dude, arent you like 50?
just another galatard lol
The warrior discord truly has the most unique characters out of all the class discords. Itās insane
lol chadchumley what difference does age make here? its a place to talk about a video game. but just dont go outside of it with your insults. you really really cant compete there
because im pretty sure you're a legitimate boomer tryna flex life achievements (which you havent actually listed) to try and flex on a bunch of 20 year old zoomers
it's sad
whats even more amusing is you can search and bring up that joke i made about Dabs. you really are obsessed
zoomers? u mean liek when doges run around in circles? that kinda zoom? lololol
stick to your cat pic you flamin wannabe
@spice hornet take away his cooking license
Pvpers in charge of not being weird.
the boomers are not sending their best today š£ļø š„
I have to wake up for work in 3 hours at the ball crushing factory
poor chad. this chat means so damned much to him...........as if he has nothing else in life worthwhile
actually i have a dog that i enjoy kicking every morning
and yet u have a cat pic lol
u poor kid, i pity you i truly do. have a good night galatards š
did you know people are allowed to like both cats and dogs? š¤Æ

good night old fart
How dare you like animals you fucking freak. Change your pic to be something else @mild thunder

good night old fart
Whatās with fury warrior players always bein dad gamers @mild thunder
it's because only dad gamers are brave enough to go against what blizz tells them to do š
KT human fury warriors are the GOAT dads
another perfect beautiful day to ingest stimulants and sit at a computer. what a blessed life
sok your face here is so funny lmfao

reminded me of shaq eating the spicy wings
ššššš
that druid got deleted from the game
man went and got a new job irl after that death

Man, the game lasted 10s and man got sent back to teldrasil
he died from 43% hp lmao
Seif
brother

the dueling competition is growing, there are a lot more tryhards in durotar
dueling is worse than SS change my mind
I already beaten them multiple times
š
Ill name you a few and tell me if u did
They got nothing on me
Pickashu the tryhard drainlife spamming affli
I mean u cant beat an affli in wpvp esp as arms
I dueled him once, duel lasted 2 years and all he did was spam drain life
He did 0 dmg
Yeah exactly, that guy's so bad its all he does
In my head, i was planning my next move ect, should i use sudden death proc? Ect but he dissapeared
Yeah. I can see if i can tryhard him and stop drainlife only
there's also this blood elf female mage
forgot the name
but he also never loses
absolute cringe playstyle though
I think i know who
I beat him a few times
But mages should win 10/10 times
Hes cringe, he cc and run 40 yards
Drinks in duel
sub ?
Dont remember
But i beat him anyways, warr too stronk
Beat him i think
Havent lost to any ww tbh, only u once i belive
ONCE U LIAR ?>???
U mfer i can count atleast 5 times (last season included)
Last season <.<
Ok so 5/50 duels then?:pā¤ļø
I dont see u in my streams anymore š¦ š
you're lucky im not counting otherwise it'd be way closer than that
haha im watching but lurking
not very active in the comments though you're right
Just another puppy spanker š
icy-veins is saying to run haste/vers for arms but im seeing most of the top ladder stacking mastery w/ haste/vers which is better?
Btw, anyone knows why everyone streams at 1080p and not 1440p?
Do as you like
Let's normalize this
I run 3600 haste, 3k mastery/ 5900 vers
Feels perfect
Oh I know. As it should be.
I approve
I was really into playing fury when I was on cocaine
Gala on Deeze nuts
I genuinely can't tell if this is a joke
what slot for unity?
fury was designed for anencephalic children
Belly piercing
cute
You say fury has no outplay potential
Any arms warrior had fury toughts?
Never a moment of weakness
sometimes I think about single minded >> titans grip
Giving up all of those stats for 5% movement speed couldnāt be me
oh the performance is terrible, I'm talking purely aesthetic
is super frustrating that its always like 3-6% behidn
What is the main reason for stacking haste as arms? To bring the CD of MS down by a few .secs? Or is it about auto attacks?
dots
Biggest dmg increase
Yeah build you have to play is dumb too
We wonāt feel it that much cause itās basically 2 stacks of current 4set
You have to give up tenderize/onslaught
Is anyone getting 2 stacks ever though
Prock chance isnāt that low
Especially when u spin hurricane bs
Enough time to get extra stacks
ele is well-designed
Just line the insta lava burst 5head
just reflect it 4head
Druid
SS above beats it
Hm yeah mby slightly more dmg
@fickle forge barkskin is not a real wall
This is gonna be nerfed by 50% in PvP, really wonāt be that big a deal
35% ele blast dmg is whatever
The 4pc will be good
Where warrior changes ??
Need more.
Arms is gonna fuck in 10.2
SV is goat
No
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You jealous of mighty survi Hunters?
Good morning everyone. another perfect beautiful day to ingest stimulants and sit at a computer. what a blessed life

morning not fury warrior
who also does what blizzard tells them to do
Mhm? Can pop onto ptr whenever to check.

You only really need to earn like 11-12k honor per char for the whole expansion, though.
It's nice for fresh alts I guess.
Yeah it's nice for fresh alts for sure
Yes. Because when I send them 20 conq boxes I still get 10 of them to be duplicates. At least then I can pick slots with the honor. Tho tbf, you also get the medals of honor
Thanks for checking
Hi guys, im warrior arms stuck on 2k in 2vs 2 and id like to find some Spanish warrior that help me to improve the knowledge of the class and also learn some tips for arena, some times (i get lost in the middle of the arena) and cost me like 5-6 seconds and much pressure to come back to the game
I'm not Spanish, but I would reccomend not 2v2. I hit 2.2k in it (and mind you there's only 2 warriors above 2.4k in 2s when I last checked) and it is just awful as a warrior.
How do you get lost in a circle?
Sabes el caminoĀæ
haha
lost in the sense of theres key moments that i lose to much time
i cant push on 3v since i dont have a premade, and i think in 2vs i can improve my gameplay
If the meta doesnt let me push more cause of the comps is fine, but im not pushing right now because im not good enough
In 2ās you can practice alot
I noticed
I just play 2ās around 2000 and i try next season to push 2.4
Why is that?
Why itās arms in thunder? And not fury
Gluck. Just magnusz's 3 warriors and one other dude just barely over.
Because arms is better and thunder was a thing long long before fury was even a real pvp spec
Why is magnusz fury?
Probs pushing Fury shuffle.
Or maybe tinkering around with it in 3s but I imagine Arms is just generally better.
He plays both. Also I'm pretty sure he pushed it as arms anyways. Non solo ratings don't track spec so you play one spec up, respec, don't even play again and just logout, will show you as fury
How is fury vs arms looking for 10.2 been hearing mixed things about which is going to come out on top
2v2 para arms ahorita es bein difĆcil
thats so weird though
spear should be infinitely worse
since most classes can get out of it
or you just play it smart and bait out some deffs with it then u can smash him after it's over
Lobby where I stop every cc, team dies with all buttons up. Next day multiple lobbies where I do nothing right and win every game. šµāš«
End of season also has a lot of people coming back which throws a wrench into games and makes them weird.
i had lucky lobbies yesterday 2x dh 1 surv
now sp, feral, elem
won 5 both
1 mage is enough to fuck my mood and game
Hey guys, stat prio for arms is Versa > mastery > haste right?
Vers > haste, Vers > mast
Barely matters
Arms stats are super close
Do a bit of both
is the 447 crafted weapon beter then the regular Pvp one ?
Pmuch if you want stats you need
cool thanks š I'll check it out abit
So. Do you want to hit MS off CD or stack damage multiplyers first?
Send the ms bb
i play shamy in 2s and it doesn't compare to holy priest or rdruid
i like the utility of sham but it somehow falls short alot of times
i play resto druid much worse and it have close rating
on highskill cap rdruid atm is amazing
in 2s
and it's versatile also u can go 3 different builds
i meddled with disc priest aswell but i am not 2 fond of it
Btw I've seen some warriors with like..29% haste 30% master yand I just have to ask 'but how'
no crit lower vers
But I basically run the same gear pretty much and I don't see where their extra haste is coming from
2set insteaad of 4, crafted gear, human with 2 hasted trikets
Uh..gnome warrior I think it was
crafted gear probably has mastery haste instead of mastery verse
question is how low verse can u go and not die
if u have constant arena partner am sure u can test it
I checked his gear against mine and its pretty much near exact yet he's at 29% haste whereas Im at like..24.
maybe he upgraded the gear , the itemlvl, not sure
I can see the argument for going Aug if they werenāt unkillable
Calling it now, fury will be sleeper in 10.2
Why
nope
main fury build is dead in 10.2
and it carries all the same issues it already has
- arms gets more out of the new pvp talents and is getting huge buffs
+/- same as now
?
even with the IP nerf accounted for, arms is getting a dps buff
and considering the IP nerf affects pvp less than pve, it's an even bigger buff for pvp builds
a random patch is going to hit like 3 weeks into season that flips whichever is perceived as the dominant spec
Trust me
this is not a coping mechanism
even IF fury's numbers are good, it has 0 utility
Who needs utility when you have DAMAGE
pop avatar > get cc'd > do no damage > teammates start dying > you intervene > you get kidney'd > you die
until fury gets some sorta utility rework/some serious additions to its toolkit, it has zero potential at high-level play
wow bro, abusing an OP spec 
There was aug and dev evoker
I hate 2s 
4k tier set proc, absolutely broken
i honestly wouldn't put it past them to do just that inside the season.
warrior's tree isnt getting touched
Try to have 3 seconds of uptime challenge (impossible)
no more trees are getting touched until 11.0 probably
pvp talents are outside the trees
The changes to slaughterhouse happened in a hotfix, right?
i highly, highly, highly doubt they're gonna add midseason pvp talents lol
maybe in a 10.2.5 "major" patch
but until then, fury just doesnt have a special enough toolkit to do anything worthwhile
Cringe
warrior tree doesnt need to be touched lol
We could use some magical dmg like condemn
fuck I miss condemn so much
nope, it doesntr
S-tier animation, sound, playstyle-altering
built in ignore pain too
But unique in that it only worked on your target and not everyone
arms doesnt need more of anything... it's already a top-tier spec with damage, mobility, insane utility and borderline unkillable
they could rework the arms rotation to not be completely braindead but i legitimately dont think most people want that
i dont think most people here want to be actively managing rage and cooldowns
Every rotation is brain dead. People don't win because of advanced and complicated rotations. They win because of how they use everything else
I want condemn only because it was shadow dmg melted plates and now could melt aug, and also would be better for a 5 sec death sentance aditional charge, warrior is getting easily kited by most of the casters and hunters
Paladin cannot be kited since all his abilities 20yard range cringe
no rotation is overly complex =/= all rotations are equally dumbed down
They're all dumbed down though
arms objectively has one of the easiest playstyles in the entire game
you rotate two buttons that infinitely reset each other
They're all easy.
Yeah and that's why we need some other stuff too, to rotate talents against certain classes
Everything follows the same builder spender style. Just some spend procs and others spend class resource.
if they wanted to add stuff to arms to make it more interesting and give it more to do dps-wise, i'd be down
yea, no
If they want to make warriors less brain dead, start adding skillshots
some other classes absolutely have a lot more to min-max than arms lol
arms barely even gives a fuck about its modifiers rn
Every class discord says the same thing. The spec is dumbed down and not complicated like it used to be
Wasnāt there a big brain way to min max heroic strike on arms
The truth is, pvp rotations aren't that big a deal
again, no spec is overtly complex =/= all specs are equally dumbed down
there are absolutely, objectively specs that require way more min-maxing than arms/punish you way harder for fucking up
arms is literally immune to mistakes 
click your bleeds -> jump around -> cyclone sometimes
then why can't i break 900 rating?
if you wanna be a terminally 1800 feral, im sure that works great lol
shit, even havoc has more to do than arms rn
didn't you just brag about how much utility arms has?
idk what you mean by brag, but we're literally talking about dps rotations right now
in which, havoc has more to do than arms
Point is, all the rotations are somewhere between 80% and 95% brain dead. Success is determined by everything else you do, not about which 3 buttons your spec happens to mash to deal damage
what specs do you play/have you played recently?
I disagree with that, dh has blade dance and chaos strike rotation on a massive dmg eye beam
idk, i arms is not the ezest to win with but i can't compare it to a druid or a shadowpriest , wich i find much harder
aug, arms/fury this season. Feral and arcane before that
when did you play feral/arcane?
I play dh it's more enjable then arms atm, it feels like you do dmg and the cc tool u have are crazy
but I just go to 1800 and move
also im kinda gonna hit the cap because lunk literally just mentioned feral/arcane as hard
arcane was s1 and feral pretty much up to and including shadowlands
but yea you've kinda just played some of the easiest specs in the game to mid rating and then said all specs are equally braindead
Executing my rotation better on those specs wouldn't have taken my rating higher. Executing strategies, positioning better, using cc better would have
both are super, super basic but you could argue dh has a bit more decision-making with its resource management... but yea both braindead af
it absolutely would have
damage alone can drag you to 2400+ in shuffle
and is still very much the difference in a lot of high 2s/3s
If that were true I'd be significantly higher. I generally don't care for the meta game of pvp with positions and cc and scripting encounters
I just want to play and be happy
or maybe my damage is just bad, that's also a possibility
idk, i got like 1900ish on survival just by doing my damage rotation when i first rerolled
and that's not even a super high dmg spec
You probably carried a lot of meta knowledge that is applicable for all specs.
eh, not really. i didnt play the first 2/3 of the season and fresh rerolled to hunter
so didnt know any of the matchups, how to kite, didnt cc properly etc.
shit i still dont know 
dmg matters no doubt, else people wouldn't roll and achieve more with ret/mm for example at this moment
the amount of hunters and rets i see compared to stuff like shadowpriest or feral is not even close
Still, i'm going to hold off next season and wait to see what kind of rug pull blizzard is gonna do before deciding between arms and fury
Might dust off my sub rogue or give DH a try for some change
fun > meta 
It's likely I'll think fury is more fun than arms and have to figure out how to trick people into losing against me
That sounds like work when I could just be slamming them with some mortal strikes
I feel like in some games i have no dmg, boomie aug ret, no matter how i swapped on deffs these mfers were so tanky couldn't even get them their main deffs, yeah need some magical dmg cuz this is very bad i can't do shit
oh and fury also has a fury-tax on equipping gear so that's fun
i don't think arms warrior is made to deal HUGE dmg when it bring the biggest mortal strike effect in the game and also some other utility
Blister and boomie armor with ret deffs is just to much and while i do no dmg my teammate one of these die like shit
if u want dmg u need to play PURE dmg class
well , sadly warrior actualy still deals with armor , unlike most other classes
what?
boomy has a hidden defensive where they drop to <10% and then refuse to die
they gain the strength of God himself and become unfucking killable
This one boomy i played kept getting an absorb shield over and over
Was a duel, and no barkskin
It's not only that they are tanky for some reason but their dmg is insane
imo i dont feel like boomy does supreme dmg, or at least i can punish them pretty hard for sitting in chicken
Are boomies still playing that wild spec where they spawn stars and make us run through them for free damage/resources?
we outdamage almost any other comp in the game tbf, my feral just dies by getting clicked on 
I can't keep up with all those changes anymore, boomie just a big mystery to me now
i feel like the only time we get out-damaged is by destro/aff locks or ww's
ele too for me
That's the only way to play
nah the problem is i dont even miss kicks, my feral and i just always kick the same cast 
or we both miss the same cast
This is why i don't kick
confuses the shit out of casters trying to bait me
Joke's on you! I'm dumb
also yesterday i learned RoS doesnt work on chaos bolt or phoenix flames
but works on fire blast, combust and cold blood
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Apparently you can shadowmeld a chaos bolt mid air and it wonāt do any damage
Sounds right
You can meld anything, yes.
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i needa reroll my hunter to nelf for next ssn 
then i can have my nelf rogue, nelf druid, nelf hunter and nelf monk all together

Reminds me I need to swap my warrior to KT Human
Lol so nobody is talking about how batshit insane sub rogue is going to be in 10.2
Straight up menace
supertease guy said something about that
It'll be nerfed 3 weeks into patch
Sorry, into season*
Heās the only one
Rogue mains are like āno sub is actually badā
sub still needs to see a lot of bug-fixes and tree tuning by release... i wouldnt really worry about it
he's also definitely not the only one
Then they'll accidentally buff outlaw to be the new ridiculous spec that's just as bad or worse than sub
Iām picturing goremaws bite 100-0s in .2 secs
first 1-3 weeks are always wild anyway, no big deal
Outlaw got cucked pretty hard cause it was doing insane numbers in PvE raid testing
still is
i wouldnt be surprised at all to see outlaw come back into regular meta
they have a way burstier dmg profile with their new tree, which is what they lacked before
if assa can figure out a way to not get their one kingsbane go dispelled (literally impossible), they can do well
problem is kingsbane is ramp dmg, so the first ~10s do nothing and the burst is back-ended
Think I'll jump on the next one-shot macro for rogue and see how far it can go
I always miss out on that trend
why did it start me off at like 2k mmr SS, it's pretty difficult for a newb in honor gear to win 3+ there and actually gain some conquest lol
wtf you doing 2s for
No 3rd and shuffle Q is about as long as your average 2s game

@wheat jay ?
what're you doing to this poor man 
High 2s are mad cancer as melee
as God intended 
Only free 2s match we had was vs fury+Hpala
Rest was outlaws
Trimaz on outlaw+Rdruid

99% win rate
ye i stg it's just outlaw, mm and feral at that rating
Surely we'll be the 1%
with some sv hunters too
2s games with rdru are so lame too
hurr durr 10min damp
i refuse to play with anything but disc in 2s these days, because even if they're shit we can either win or lose quickly
There are too many errors in your UI
it does sick dmg but after like 90s your healthbar doesnt go back up
@mild thunder whoās more unkillable, Ret or Arms
They fixed IV btw
yea i heard
We back to doing 60k-80k heals
defs still unkillable
arms the only way to counter arms 
As intended
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Who should be able to deal with buff gigachads but buff gigachads
BITCH I WAS ONLINE, AND ON DISCORD, IN 45MIN SHUFFLE Q AND NONE OF YOU CAME TO ME
I even dm'd you that i'm on discord streaming my shuffle games
And you still didnt come
Bruh
doesnt use them at the same time
so not a fury warrior
but
bombs, poisons, crossbow at the hip and 2h sword + can tame wild animals = survival hunter
through and through
turtle is literally just Quen
Isnt he just like basically a combat rogue?
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I dont know why people suck off the witcher
Freezing bomb 10/10, best bomb in witchrr
Games actually terrible
10/10 game
bait
bait or legit reetard
The 2nd one was crap when it dropped - I gave the 3rd one a chance because of the hype
show was ass, but the show and game arent even closely related
And it doesnt live up
Gameplay is mid and aged poorly, and the story is only passable if you've never read a book before
Combat is bis tho
Nah literally average to shit
Fast paced, lots of variety in how you can play it

