pvp

[sharp meteor]

I'm content with how my little project is going.

[lavish quest]

"Be a man, play arms." ~ Some washed up warrior

[ocean ivy]

i parry+intervened my healer twice now in 2v2 vs ret+fury warrior

and both times my healer just fuckign died

[fallen estuary]

healers fault

[ocean ivy]

shouldnt we both be immune for 6 seconds then?

(into that particular comp)?

or how exactly does intervene work

also, we remained in 10 yd

[fallen estuary]

intervene sometimes works

but paladins toolkits mostly spells n sheeit

[sharp meteor]

Intercepts melee and ranged abilities for 3 seconds.

[ocean ivy]

well he died like a second later ors o

[sharp meteor]

Keep it mind it won't affect spells or aoe abilities.

Bladestorm, for instance, despite being physical will continue hitting them.

Intervene also eats kicks, so if you intervene vs retwarr then your healer can freecast.

You can also catch stormbolts with intervene. 😁

[green sequoia]

I love catching kidneys and shit when healers dying

[lavish quest]

I love when I press intervene and being the one who dies instead. Rare, but good times.

[sharp meteor]

I remember Sinful. Intervene during seraphim/toll, die through parry from 91%

[fallen solar]

I got back on DH and I might be playing that next season. Feels really good

[sage raptor]

How are yall always on?

[green anchor]

🤓

[sage raptor]

Ohhhhhh I see

I gotcha ;)

[fickle forge]

Deserved

[sharp meteor]

At least I won the other 5 rounds. Somehow.

[fickle forge]

Show the breakdown

[sharp meteor]

Ye, can't really say what happened without a death log.

[lavish quest]

"It was all a blur."

[frank knoll]

I don’t intervene

No but foreal when I started intervening regularly and conscientiously I went up like 150 pts in CR

[gloomy dock]

Okay, hi lads, lass, and femboys, I need some advice

My gf started playing like 4 days ago. She's giga bad, never played videogames like this before

What's a pretty simple subclass to get her involved in like random battlegrounds

I was thinking ret paladin or arms warrior but I really want like, stroke victim suffering permanent brain damage skill floor

[frank knoll]

Mm hunter

Stand in the back line and PvE in BGs

[candid citrus]

i foresee alot fights in your future if shes never played a game like wow... having her play hunter might help lol

[gloomy dock]

Lmao, she'll just be excluded from most content while she improves

[magic wing]

Ret

[vapid tartan]

Show her how shit the game truly is, get her to quit and save ur relationship

[gloomy dock]

Can't relate, I adore this gsme

[green anchor]

forcing your gf to play random bgs with you

worst content in the game

[pure hornet]

Got some frustating matches

As arms

Thinking switch to fury

[pale minnow]

that's not why u got 150 cr

i wonder after 5 declines why are people getting in front of me in ques

system of a trash

[lavish quest]

From 1400 to 1550?

[lavish quest]

Have you considered random dungeons instead?

[gloomy dock]

I want her to do everything

I love random battlegrounds

I think she will too

[green anchor]

🤣

[vapid tartan]

In all seriousness

Start her with pve so she learns some basic mechanics

[gloomy dock]

I did

We did like a 3 key

And she died 18 times as a ret paladin

[vapid tartan]

Rome wasn’t built in a day

[gloomy dock]

Ik

I'm bringing her to keys

[vapid tartan]

Think just practice rotation learn what talents actually do

Then hop in some bgs

[gloomy dock]

And just battlegrounds is a fun way to get muscle memory

[vapid tartan]

Yup

[gloomy dock]

Rather than time walking / heroic spam for next 240 hours

[elfin surge]

this shit gunna take forever

with these 45 minute qs

[green anchor]

warrior needs a healer spec

[gloomy dock]

Is solo shuffle 1v1

Or is it just solo queue 2v2 3v3

[green anchor]

3v3 only

[gloomy dock]

Oh okay

So if I queue as a tank

People will whine?

[green anchor]

yes

[gloomy dock]

💡🩲

[green anchor]

They will whine if you're bad and feed

100%

[gloomy dock]

I'm always bad and feed

Iron league player

[lavish quest]

I gave up on that one. I don't got the time especially without being in elite consistent enough. Maybe next season for me lol

[gloomy dock]

(actually like silver / gold, I just don't play LOL, and off role)

[green anchor]

I last played that in 2009

[lavish quest]

Just tell her to git gud. Shorten that time frame 😂

[gloomy dock]

I mean, I'm a horrible girlfriend to have

I'm mean, bad at videogames, and expect her to play 13+ hours a day

And get good

Why she wants to date me, is far the fuck beyond me

By all accounts I deserve to be single for life, but some how I keep ending up in relationships

[pale minnow]

In 3 hours of my precious free time wasted on waiting for 3 games beong 3/6 3/6 2/6 mages lobbies i'm so unlucky it's crazy

[wheat jay]

@mild thunder monk can dodge explosion from explosive shot lol

[fickle forge]

🙏

[green anchor]

blasted

[frank knoll]

Pretty much

[onyx marlin]

hunter

[pale minnow]

Bro it's your fault, no mass reflect, no overwatch

[fickle forge]

Pre-walls at 100%

Dies in 1 sec anyway

🙏

[pale minnow]

[mild thunder]

Of course it can

[pale minnow]

Aug elem shamman? Wtf is going on even

[mild thunder]

Real feral shit

[pure hornet]

In 3 hours if you go 2’s or 3’s you can get in around 20 matches+

Why is evoker so overtuned

?

[wheat jay]

nah nah

not explosive shot

not the arrow

THE explosion

[lavish quest]

Monks master the i-frame

[onyx marlin]

its a dragon man, in terms of lore it has to be op

[pure hornet]

Crap ballance

What counters frost most?

[onyx marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-gif-4563720

[pure hornet]

I wanna see them suffer

[onyx marlin]

hunter

[pale minnow]

Priests, locks

[pure hornet]

Frost is a hard on killer

Bonner*

[pale minnow]

I have to play some other class cuz i feel like warrior is shit in solo to much comp dependancy

[mild thunder]

Yeye I gotcha

Very dumb

I guess evasion might work too then

[wheat jay]

no idea

[mild thunder]

Arms is great in shuffle

Not as good as ret, but better than almost any other melee

[vapid tartan]

warr is very versatile with comps

[violet fossil]

it is very versatile

[pale minnow]

Brainless ww can get above good arms warriors just because of the burst dmg and the deffs, dk can controll the game better then arms and goes better vs casters, ret we all know is busted in any ways, other melles doesn't exist, rogues cucks warriors with them or against them, survi hunter, ench shamm, dh just weak, only thing we warriors good at is damp, peels shit dmg mediocre, solo is all about burst and peels and arms is neither of that, one caster and one melle is enough for you to not do enough dmg, max potential is reached on melle lobbies where you can cleave.

[storm meteor]

this is probably a dumb question but do you just have to keep an extra set of gear in your bags in order to swap between pvp and pve?

[mild thunder]

@fickle forge all yours

[storm meteor]

and then just use the equipment manager

[wheat jay]

Lmaooooooo

Bro Apex you okay?

[mild thunder]

Arms warrior is very bad, okay?

We’re victims

https://tenor.com/view/darksouls-gif-20991094

How it feels to play arms in shuffle

[wheat jay]

I mean, arms in shuffle is the predator

Straight up

Full predator

[mild thunder]

Ret is better in shuffle, but other than that

Arms fucks

[wheat jay]

Ret is also predator, except its a child predator

Never trust a ret

[fallen estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/playboychun-gif-21933834

[lucid walrus]

we’re yhorm in this case btw

glad to see y’all still play bad game

[pale minnow]

@wheat jay @mild thunder no offense but you guys are hunter mains, u get on alt 1.8 warrior then you are done.

[wheat jay]

Excuse me, I was 2k on warrior, twice

Once in 3s once in 2s

[tribal holly]

Yikes youre worse than me and i suck at pvp

[pale minnow]

Great i can do that with my monitor turned off

We talking about solo q where u can't save shit

3s arms is the king

[wheat jay]

Shuffle too

Its just more random, gotta adapt to chaos a bit more

[pale minnow]

Solo q arms is 4th melle dps objectively

[wheat jay]

I'm Hunter main tho, 2k on alt is fine i guess

[tribal holly]

Im just kidding

[wheat jay]

Imma check numbers above some rating

[tribal holly]

Pvp isnt real content anyways

[wheat jay]

True

Minigame

[pale minnow]

Has no potential like ww to one shot or ret who can randomly swap and kill a target

[wheat jay]

But i cant raid due to work so i pvp

And i have fun playing with Kargussy

Jesus i checked stats

Fucking shuffle is MELEE DOMINATED through the roof xD

[pale minnow]

Yep

[tribal holly]

Why are you surprised

Range is awful in uncoordinated groups

[wheat jay]

I dunno, people cry all the time about ranged meta, and melee is superior in 3s as well

Btw @tribal holly guild needs dh

Do I dh?

[pale minnow]

Caster is boring incel gaming with alot of utility

[tribal holly]

Are you a zoomer who can play mementum? If so then why not

[wheat jay]

I can play anything Habibi

Can play on your heart and feelings too if you feel like it

[tribal holly]

Doubt it

[wheat jay]

Mine would probably break faster tho

[tribal holly]

Apparently havoc is good

[wheat jay]

Ye supposedly

[mild thunder]

What rating are you?

[pale minnow]

2.5

[tribal holly]

Thats it?

You talk awfully alot of shit but youre barely above glad rating

[mild thunder]

In shuffle?

[mild thunder]

That ain’t even glad, that’s like 1800 in 3s

[wheat jay]

Late is our best shittalker haha

[tribal holly]

Its enough to give you the glad mount no?

[mild thunder]

No glad mount in shuffle

And rating is super inflated in that bracket

[wheat jay]

Not rly that inflated rn

3s is more inflated than shuffle

[pale minnow]

In shuffle i bounce 2.3 -2.5 previous season 2.7

[mild thunder]

Not as bad as last ssn, but it’s definitely still more inflated than 3s

[tribal holly]

Wait so if theres no mount for glad in shuffle then what do you actually get? Better gear?¿

[pale minnow]

Legend

If you win 100 above 2.4

[mild thunder]

A toy

[tribal holly]

Seriously?

[wheat jay]

A happy title

Yes

[mild thunder]

Gives you a lil flag on your back

It sucks

Lmao

[wheat jay]

There's a reason we always meme on shuffle

Just as we meme 2s

[tribal holly]

Yeah no wonder pvp players are miserable lmao

[wheat jay]

The actual pvp is 3s

[mild thunder]

3s or gtfo

[wheat jay]

You'd be as miserable as I am if you played 1400 games to get glad

Starting from 0 pvp xp on Hunter, and overall 0 xp in 3s

[raw summit]

worth the dragon

[mild thunder]

I think I’m at like 800 games so far

[wheat jay]

True

[wheat jay]

Too bad it doesnt work with dragonflgith flying

[mild thunder]

Struggling to find healers to keep pushing with

[sharp meteor]

Me on the left (prot) queuing into a Mage

[mild thunder]

Get DF glad

[wheat jay]

I feel bad for my healer sometimes

[mild thunder]

Problem solved

[wheat jay]

Man's good enough for r1

[raw summit]

yea thats a bit annoying

[tribal holly]

Id just play other games tbh

[wheat jay]

If he played better comps

[wheat jay]

I mean

Ye

It was just fun to play with homies

[mild thunder]

I’m oce, all the cool competitive games are dead and/or impossible to play outside of wow

[sharp meteor]

So is anything, though.

[raw summit]

pvp is like m+ but faster and less ppl required

[mild thunder]

Smite is dead, LoL is kinda dead here… that’s pretty much it

[wheat jay]

And Late

[tribal holly]

Its a shame that blade n soul these days is just a bitcoin miner

That game had fun pvp

[wheat jay]

This was worth it

Gw2 has fun pvp

[mild thunder]

Gw2 is an awesome game

Lost ark is pretty cool

[wheat jay]

I havent played in a while

I still play raids in lost ark

Once I get new job I'll raid in wow again

[tribal holly]

Im happy for you so im not gonna say what i think of that mount

[mild thunder]

If I’m not playing wow, I’m just playing single-player rpgs these days

[wheat jay]

I meaaaaaan

I know its dogshit

[mild thunder]

I’m raiding again next ssn (wonder how long it’ll last)

[wheat jay]

But its my dogshit mount that I earned through pain

Soooooo ye

[sharp meteor]

Anxiety and depression.

[wheat jay]

Still a dog mount

[worthy fern]

@wheat jay I started leveling in wrath yday

[wheat jay]

No wrath for me

[worthy fern]

Actually been semi enjoyable

[wheat jay]

Give me classic legion

[mild thunder]

Classic is boring and cringe; wake me up when classic mop

[worthy fern]

Meh

[tribal holly]

4 more years

Give or take

[raw summit]

but its a dogshit mount you have

[spice hornet]

What’s the highest prot warr rn?

[raw summit]

[worthy fern]

I feel like wrath should be the last classic

[cyan mauve]

bruh i just got demise twice in one run from the 3% and 1% drop

[tribal holly]

Gotta milk the wow playerbase for all they have

[worthy fern]

Cata hasn’t classic wow

[sharp meteor]

Heys.

[worthy fern]

It’s modern wow

[mild thunder]

Looking for an easy r1 in shuffle?

[sharp meteor]

Oh, wait, guy on eu higher.

[spice hornet]

Ooh what’s goin on in here

[tribal holly]

It should be yes but its about to run out of content

[raw summit]

is fox teapot duck

[wheat jay]

Now we have daddy thrall back in the industry

[tribal holly]

And unlike osrs dev wow classic dev is ass

[worthy fern]

That’s why classic + should happen

[mild thunder]

Headache duck

[wheat jay]

So he's gonna milk us all dry

[sharp meteor]

Formerly.

[raw summit]

which is teapot

[mild thunder]

Hardcore IS classic+

[worthy fern]

Make new content with old wow game play

[raw summit]

cool ur still around

[sharp meteor]

I live.

[spice hornet]

@tribal holly when are we getting a dedicated pvp stormforged?

[tribal holly]

Havent you heard of heroic+?

[spice hornet]

Sick of the bullshi t

[worthy fern]

No

[mild thunder]

Anyone expecting actual “new” content for classic is high in copium

[sharp meteor]

Never because we don't deserve or need one.

[tribal holly]

It makes no difference if you have one or not

[worthy fern]

Idk if I’m expecting it but it’s what I want

[wheat jay]

Is it like m+ but wrath?

[spice hornet]

Yeah, so give us one

[tribal holly]

And once a day

[mild thunder]

It makes us feel loved

[wheat jay]

Jesus that's dogshit t

[sharp meteor]

It really just seems like a fire and forget low resource high return project.

[tribal holly]

Yeah you arent

[sharp meteor]

Classic+ just goes against that.

[wheat jay]

We had two at some point

Remember Afro and Kargish?

[sharp meteor]

"just make new content for the old game"

[mild thunder]

Exactly… they’re never gonna dedicate those kinds of resources to classic

[wheat jay]

It ALL went to shit cuz we all were too dumb to stop saying offensive shit

[spice hornet]

Genuinely curious on what the requirement is to be a SF/Valk outside of just being in a high ranked mythic guild?

[wheat jay]

Was fun

[spice hornet]

Like

[tribal holly]

This

Thats the reason

[wheat jay]

Just for the record

[worthy fern]

I feel like, seeing how popular it is they would decide to put more resources towards it

[sharp meteor]

Real.

[mild thunder]

We don’t say offensive shit anymore tho

Cause all the good words are blocked

[wheat jay]

Us saying rovicus needed two toilet Seats was not an insult

[sharp meteor]

But their playerbase will play it regardless, so why

[tribal holly]

And like ive said previously if you have some good actual information you can just always ping me and ill pin it

[wheat jay]

But a fact

[sharp meteor]

put no money in, classic players stay subbed anyways

no need to waste resources

They'll eat it up, it's not like they have alternatives

[wheat jay]

Also, with the "bench check" we have found like 5 diff rogues

[worthy fern]

@sharp meteor the reason it’s so popular will go away as we move into newer xpacs

[mild thunder]

Stop bodyshaming

[tribal holly]

Except they will always just return to private servers

[wheat jay]

Its not me that's bodyshaming, its your body that's shameful Galachad

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[mild thunder]

Let them. Classic andies are annoying

[worthy fern]

Idk man the game is objectively bad now and has been for 3 xpacs now

[mild thunder]

Boomers trying to relive their glory days while pretending 20 year old content min -maxed to the extreme is still hard

[worthy fern]

They used to at least do one good one bad

Wrong

[mild thunder]

How is the game objectively bad? Lol

[worthy fern]

For like 90 percent of people wow classic is jsut more fun

[mild thunder]

DF is just a good xpac. Not perfect, did two-three things wrong, but it’s a good xpac

[tribal holly]

Hot take atleast bfa was fun

[sharp meteor]

What did he mean by this

[wheat jay]

You mean game or pvp?

[tribal holly]

Sl and df are so bad i dont really want to play anymore

The game

[worthy fern]

I should clarify

[wheat jay]

Cuz shadowlands pve was fun mostly

[worthy fern]

Pvp

Has been bad

I don’t pve

[raw summit]

df m+ xdd

[mild thunder]

DF PvP isn’t even bad lol

[wheat jay]

Yep

[mild thunder]

Outside of ret and Aug

That uhhhh

Was not good

[raw summit]

was about to say

[wheat jay]

Pvp rn is just weird damp shit

[worthy fern]

It’s been a roller coaster shit show

[raw summit]

fuck evoker

[mild thunder]

If you play cringe comps

My games still end in sub 3 minutes

[pale minnow]

S1 before ret rework everything was actually good

[worthy fern]

The game just isn’t fun idk

That’s actually correct

[mild thunder]

S2 before Aug was very good

[worthy fern]

Went downhill with ret rework

[pale minnow]

When elem shamm got them procc nerfs and ret had no rework was the perfect pvp alot of classes could play

[worthy fern]

Slands s2 was last time I had fun pvping

[mild thunder]

SL PvP was shit

Literal w key gimmick gameplay

Winning because oneshot isn’t real PvP

[worthy fern]

That was season was massively popular

Neither is dampening for 10 min

[mild thunder]

All of SL was popular, unchained was just long

[pale minnow]

Yeah that too aug ruined alot again

[mild thunder]

You don’t damp for 10 minutes right now tho? Unless you’re playing cringe comps

I have maybe 1/50 games that go for 5 minutes

[worthy fern]

@mild thunder iirc pvers being semi forced to pvp for gear made it really active

[mild thunder]

Probably less

[tribal holly]

I see i stirred the hornets nest

[mild thunder]

Yea and that’s just bad design

Objectively

[worthy fern]

@mild thunder ok but there are other issues though

[mild thunder]

Like?

[worthy fern]

Aug

[tribal holly]

Aug is only issue because its new

[mild thunder]

Yea I literally already pointed out Aug as one of the only glaring issues

[tribal holly]

so blizzard hasnt completely neutered it

[mild thunder]

Pre-Aug comp diversity was super high

[wheat jay]

Inb4 new dh spec breaks pvp even further xD

[worthy fern]

Idk I don’t play a lot rn but my friends who do bitch non stop so

[mild thunder]

[tribal holly]

Wow players bitch about everything

[mild thunder]

You don’t play but you know game is bad

Ok

[tribal holly]

Unable to adapt to changes

[mild thunder]

This

[tribal holly]

[wheat jay]

True

Late spitting mad facts

Who cares about pvp sf

We got pvp Val'kyr

[mild thunder]

The only people that want SL back are cringe ret/warr mains that could only win by oneshotting

[tribal holly]

Only good thing wow has going for it anymore is the combat engine

Everything else is boring

[mild thunder]

Or s4 rmpers

[wheat jay]

I want it back too

[mild thunder]

No, you just want flayed shot

[worthy fern]

I don’t specifically want slands pvp back

[wheat jay]

Was more controlled

Trap was meaningful

[worthy fern]

I don’t care for any of it at all right now

[wheat jay]

Anyway, brb

[worthy fern]

@wheat jay survival as an abomination in slands

[mild thunder]

Trap IS meaningful? I don’t get where you get this idea lol

NEXT season cc will be shit

[worthy fern]

@mild thunder what do you play currently

[raw summit]

i still dont quite understand the change they made to cc

like why

[mild thunder]

Sv jungle with disc

Pretty off-meta rn

[worthy fern]

That’s a fun comp though

I do really like current iteration of feral

Far better than slands feral

[mild thunder]

Yea that’s what I said - don’t play cringe comps and the game is fun

If you’re playing a cringe comp, that’s a you problem

@sharp meteor

[sharp meteor]

Heys. 😁

[frank knoll]

What’s a cringe comp? Ret warr?

[mild thunder]

Ret/warr, Aug/anything, turbo…

[frank knoll]

They’re not doing a new DH spec no way

[mild thunder]

Anything that relies on damp

With no setup

[frank knoll]

I haven’t played 3s since shuffle came out

[worthy fern]

I’d love a new dh spex

[mild thunder]

Playing jungle v jungle games is legitimately the most fun you can have in PvP

[frank knoll]

But I used to play KFC

[mild thunder]

Maybe jungle v fmp

[frank knoll]

And scatter on my hunter

[worthy fern]

2h dh play like terra slayer

[frank knoll]

There was allegedly a new spec datamined “inquisitor” DH

Intellect primary stat

[wheat jay]

40 yards eye beam

[sharp meteor]

"datamined"

[wheat jay]

CC was longer in shadowlands

Now you cant rly do too much in cc, outplaying people was more meaningful, especially for healers

If you could stop a priest from fearing you it gave you a big advantage

Not so much rn

[mild thunder]

Cc is still absolutely long enough to be impactful right now tho

[mild thunder]

Arguably chain-cc is more important because you can’t just rely on only trap on your go

[wheat jay]

Even chain cc doesnt give you as much

[mild thunder]

Intim lost 2 seconds man

[bright stream]

wait - you think there was more outplay in SL?

[mild thunder]

It’s not the end of the world

[worthy fern]

I won’t be mad if the new dh spec is a caster but I will not be happy either

[bright stream]

DF>SL>>BFA

[worthy fern]

Bfa ww > current ww

[bright stream]

@worthy fern there probably should be more casters in game to balance the melee numbers tho

shame about raid design making melee irrelevant

[worthy fern]

@bright stream I agree but they jsut got two in the form of evoker

[wheat jay]

Indeed

[bright stream]

honestly, its time for Shaman Tank

[wheat jay]

Shaman tank

Id second that

[bright stream]

well, hard disgress on this one dawg

[worthy fern]

Shaman tank has been a long time coming

Needs to happen

[bright stream]

like I get the vibe on thinking longer CC>more skill required

[wheat jay]

Dh would be fun if it was less mobile dps spec with range like evoker

20 yards

[bright stream]

but its actually the opposite

[sharp meteor]

Intim and asphyx feel so gutted omg.

[frank knoll]

That was what enhance was supposed to be , a Shaman tank

[worthy fern]

I think it’s a combination of cc being Lower and burst being lower also

[bright stream]

TtK got too small, agree its whack

[worthy fern]

Slands was way burstier

[wheat jay]

Longer cc isn't an equivalent of skill, but it made a bigger difference for healers

[sharp meteor]

Glad they scrapped that nonsense.

[worthy fern]

So when cc landed it was scarier

[frank knoll]

I miss BfA PvP, busted PvE trinkets and corruptions. So much fun

[wheat jay]

Was easier to discern which heal was good, which was shit

[bright stream]

as in like skill expression?

[wheat jay]

Basically

[bright stream]

honestly there's so much skill expression in healer

they don't need it

[wheat jay]

Was more

[bright stream]

straight up hardest role depending on spec

[wheat jay]

I'm all for punishing bad plays from healerz

Which is why i despise hpala

[bright stream]

position requirement is insane, cc timing, cd timing

[wheat jay]

Externals

[worthy fern]

Everyone just does pve damage right now so cc sometimes feels kind of irrelevant

[bright stream]

it takes all the complex parts of playing both melee and range and repackages them

[worthy fern]

Depends on spec

[bright stream]

nah this has been a thing since time immemorial

do you remember the moonwell challice?

[worthy fern]

Ehhh not really

[bright stream]

nah, 100%

[worthy fern]

Like previously

[bright stream]

the only times where people don't rage about the season being a pve damage season

are RMP/God comp dominated seasons

the last time that wasn't the case was WLS and MLS comps in bloody cata

[worthy fern]

If you were able to stop a cc chain like a ret hoj being grounded or like countering ww leg sweep

Then it wasn’t as scary at all

[bright stream]

like maybe I'm crazy, but give me a CC season that was recent and not RMP

[worthy fern]

Ww goes are just endless now they shit damage endlessly

Same with war and ret

[bright stream]

I will say it's nice to see mage shift back toward not being so easy to play in DF - though its still no where near as hard as mages will tell you it is

[wheat jay]

Everyone shits out dmg 24/7

[worthy fern]

THts my point

[bright stream]

right right

[wheat jay]

Its dumb

[bright stream]

but when was that last not the case?

maybe legion?

early BFA

[worthy fern]

It wasn’t the case in slands

[wheat jay]

You had burst windows for the most part

[worthy fern]

Burst was huge but not constant

[bright stream]

I feel like I remember a very different slands

what classes did you play but

[wheat jay]

And outside of it you were mostly safe

[worthy fern]

Some specs did

Survival hunter pumped pretty consistent damage

[wheat jay]

Monk could 100-0 you in 1 second, but fear clones and you're fine

Survi pumped ye xD

Lower burst but crazy consistent

[worthy fern]

But like war, ret, ww, fire mage, both rogue specs, mm hunter all cooldown oriented

Can’t remember lock specs really

[bright stream]

war was based on cov in Slands

[frank knoll]

BM was aids too

[worthy fern]

Right everyone played Necro so

[bright stream]

venthyr war was not bursty, but huge sustain

[bright stream]

wot

[frank knoll]

Dying to AI pets and kill shot procs

[worthy fern]

@bright stream wot wot

[bright stream]

bro, necro was the least played war cov across the expac

[wheat jay]

Venthur died in s2

And never came back

[violet fossil]

they switched to

the angel one

after necro

[frank knoll]

Not late in the xpac, everyone was necro

[wheat jay]

Necro was best since s2

[worthy fern]

Kyrian and venth were s1

[wheat jay]

Highest burst in the game

[worthy fern]

Kyrian was always playable after the cov legendaries

But Necro pumped the most plus defensive

[bright stream]

it was Kyrian/venth for S1, Kyrian/Necro for S2, and then a bit of a mix depending on comp/season

[worthy fern]

Especially when fury was meta

[bright stream]

there was def a point where necro was the bomb for sure

I don't recal fury playing necro at all

wasnt it NF/Venth for fury?

[worthy fern]

Your recalling weong then

[wheat jay]

Noone played nf

[bright stream]

kyrian if you hated yourself

[wheat jay]

It was nf for m+ in s1

But pvp fury was necro

[worthy fern]

Necro fury was one of the biggest abominations we’ve ever seen in pvp

[wheat jay]

S3 fury was disgusting and never should have existed in the first place

[worthy fern]

At least once slaughterhouse was introduced

[wheat jay]

Infinite charge on rating blow

[bright stream]

fun spec

wish they'd unfuck the design of unholy/frost dk

[worthy fern]

Necro was just the pvp cov across the board for the most part

At least in the later xpac

[thick reef]

Because of Fleshbubble

[worthy fern]

Yea

Rogue liked bone spike

Ret

[fallen estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-futureangeis-stan-twitter-gif-22575342

@sharp meteor 100 more points till 2400

i got another lobby with el dozer

[thick reef]

almost 2400 with fucking Prot War

[wheat jay]

Ele was necro

Healers were necro

[fallen estuary]

i got dropped deep with prot

[worthy fern]

Frost mage was Necro I think

[wheat jay]

Some locks were necro

[spice hornet]

S1 so scuffed picking your covenant if you did all major content rofl

[wheat jay]

Ye Frost necro

[worthy fern]

Sp was Necro in later xpac

[fallen estuary]

my push is next season with prot

[wheat jay]

What else

[worthy fern]

Dk Necro all xpac

[fallen estuary]

im just getting rewards now and prepping next season

[wheat jay]

Feral

[thick reef]

What a legend

[worthy fern]

What did hunters go

[wheat jay]

Druids overall were mostly necro

[worthy fern]

Venth?

[fallen estuary]

youll see me talking shit to hunters in rated bgs lmao

[wheat jay]

Hunter venthyr

Nothing else

[worthy fern]

Druid actually got to play eveything but venth

[wheat jay]

Flayed too strong

[fallen estuary]

talking about hunters i got a gm to look into a hunter that griefed 2 of my lobbies today

[wheat jay]

Until it was nerfed, ye

[bright stream]

slappy hands started shit, and got more shit over time

still mad that they made dk a class based on the stupid slappy hands

[fallen estuary]

got 2 lobbies with same hunter and he did nothing but feed n talk shit so i subbed a ticket and 30 min later i got my answer lmao

[wheat jay]

Dh was necro later on as well

[worthy fern]

Yea

[thick reef]

Get fucked lmao

[wheat jay]

So ye, everything played necro xD

[thick reef]

If Fury eats dick in 10.2 I'm rolling Frost

Fuck it

[fallen estuary]

who doesnt like jelly hands that snatch 1$ bills off the counter

[bright stream]

looool, making dk into an AoE setup class on a 2 minute RNG cd sucks

[sharp meteor]

If only. I'm 50 points away but Dabby threw down his shield to play Fury.

[worthy fern]

Both feral and boomy could play fae Necro or kyrian with very different play styles which is how it should have been for everyone

[bright stream]

yeah except 30% of the time your hands have Parkinson's and just yeet the money into the stratosphere

[fallen estuary]

the shocking thing is that when i put down prot, NOONE started saying "oh hey its you" in my lobbies

eexcept dozer LMAO

[bright stream]

bring back

[fallen estuary]

and im just climbing like a fucking maniac

[bright stream]

and this is controversal

gladiator stance

[fossil mortar]

Burst is stronger than ever, so I wouldn't worry. If you havent done Blitz, Fury did do quite well in it - and that is with healers not giving a fuck about dampening.

So, I presume, that you will be even stronger in soloshuffle/arenas than before

[bright stream]

2024

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, arms/fury warriors all blur together.

[bright stream]

fury been hella mid since week 4 of DF

[sharp meteor]

Yerr.

It's still somewhat standard, though.

[bright stream]

honestly I think they could give SH a small buff

only because it gets overrided/prevented by half the dps roster

[sharp meteor]

A nice little quality of life buff is letting people stack it regardless of other ms's

it just doesn't stack, but it can eventually be built up

[fossil mortar]

Well, they did double the burst gaing from RA for Fury, so, ya cant complain about 10.2 changes, not to mention 25% stronger OF and 50% critchance on the BB

[bright stream]

root break baseline and another pvp talent would go a long way

[thick reef]

Thoughts on the Shout pvp passive?

[fossil mortar]

Good in Blitz

[bright stream]

whats it do?

[mild thunder]

You only ever use intim for traps anyway, who cares

And fuck uhdk

[fossil mortar]

5% more dam done during TR bleed, 3% stamina, movementspeed when you rally

[mild thunder]

They have insane cc anyway

[bright stream]

ehhhh I'd put that in functionally useless

[fossil mortar]

It is decent in Blitz

[mild thunder]

S Tier warrior got even more S tier

[worthy fern]

Def not useless

Isn’t it all damage

Can someone link the talent

Yea it’s 5 percent damage from all sources

Pretty huge

[pale minnow]

What exactly did you do?

[fallen estuary]

hunter didnt press turtle when the paladin and mage was beating him bloody

i intervened him and he screamed like a bitch saying

INTERVENE INTERVENE

so next match he hid behind a pillar and i was peeling for hime while he was dying like a bitch behind a pillar STANDING STILL BEHIND A PILLAR AS A HUNTER

while next game it was a healer diff match and he just feeded making me go 2-6

while talking shit so i got a gm involved and theyre currently looking into hi m

lets just say dont fuck around in the game

oh and this redacted hunter was using his pet sac in the opener when noone was targeting him as well btw

[scarlet flame]

bruh who unironically says that

dont fuck around with dabdaddy he'll get a GM involved

[fallen estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/me-gif-18454302

I say dat

[pale minnow]

Intervene won't help shit vs those, and best thin u can do is peel fear or rally if he is low but other then that ignore braindead solo quers and do pressure

[fallen estuary]

Thats what i did lmao

After the match he talked shit and i talked shit

[pale minnow]

I know brother u can't reach mage, a ret is a tanky pig so the game is a garanteee loss there u got 0 chance to win

[fallen estuary]

But im back to 2300 so its lookin good

[pale minnow]

Welcome to hell elo

[fallen estuary]

I know lmfao

[pale minnow]

Here you'll be bouncing up and down no matter how good you play, just pray u face melees and u'll get up

[fallen estuary]

Yea upbhere you fight casters that truely show you how busted their classes really are. Like you thought 1800s casters were bad. Ohhohohhoh wait till you get close to 2400

I had 4 lobbies 3-3 with bdruids and mages doing perfect rotations and perfect blink cycles

Its night and day the meta of melee and caster

[pale minnow]

Casters who can kite properly will make your games hell, period on these hunters who never got even close to experience this hell of a shithole

[fallen estuary]

Shitty hunters get so high just by getting mage lobbies no joke

I hate mages but i hate hunters more

[pale minnow]

Idk but this elo is full of mm and mages with augs

[fallen estuary]

Fury OBLITERATES aug. I have 0 problems with them anymore

So thats giving me the cr advantage as well

I get aug on my team i rock dw

Theyre 100% going on aug so i get 5 stack ez and ebon might and cut them in half

Honestly wish they kept it 5-5% at 10 stacks than halfing to 10% at 5

5-5% is better manageable to keep up than a raw 10% intake

[pale minnow]

I wanna try fury too what's the strat with that?

[frank knoll]

Dabdaddy takes the social contract seriously

[pale minnow]

Cuz it feels shit with the tier set not pressing bt only on stacks

[frank knoll]

Win quickly

As much uptime as possible

[pale minnow]

Well i got 2.4 then i dropped 2.2 cuz boomies and ret palas continuesly dropped on my face

But what i observed is that 2 min enraged regen is trash, and u can kill only every 2 min with reck, and avatar

Out of your burst u got no dmg

[frank knoll]

Yeah

Esp in shuffle where dampening is gigs aggro

[pale minnow]

In solo there ain't any damp bro xd no drinks, no long games on 2nd burst someone dies

[fallen estuary]

Stack SO MUCH FUCKING MASTERY and kill whatever breathes near you

[frank knoll]

Keep your slaughterhouse up, cross CC healer and send your CDs. If you don’t win on second Avatar you lose

Yeah that too, mastery on everything

[fallen estuary]

Unless dps dont die. You cc healer as fury. Ccing dps goes as fury js huuuuuge

They dont target you but your teammate so fury usually ccs dps

[frank knoll]

I always save my bolt for healer

[fallen estuary]

I leap fear

[frank knoll]

/focus stormbolt
Idk worked for me

[fallen estuary]

Yea i have all those macros

Unless its for the kill or a peak burst moment ill cc healer

[frank knoll]

I got 1850 in like 200 games as fury
Got it in like 60 as Arms lol

[river walrus]

Yeah, played my monk and warrior today into casters lobby and I wanted to rage quit. It's frustrating

[fallen estuary]

But its delaying them untill your next shrapnel diarhea

[frank knoll]

I do think it’s fun to bait CDs with mini avatar

[fallen estuary]

You WILL enjoy the 20000 blinks with blast wave and random rng roots withouy drs

[fallen estuary]

I yea odyns first into avatar after cds

[frank knoll]

Arms is king into melee lobbies

I feel like a god especially into DK lobbies

[fallen estuary]

I kill lizards easily now

[frank knoll]

Fury shreds lizards

[river walrus]

Lol man no, playing into hunters/mages on blade edge arena is cancer. Getting knocked off downstairs and rooted 24/7

[pale minnow]

Well let the loby be dk boomie mage u finished

[fallen estuary]

Lmao casters are so fucking cancer this patch

Blizz gave them so much shit they did not ever need

[river walrus]

Worst lobby is arcane/frost mage, Aug evoker and ele shamans

[fallen estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/gmod-ragdoll-video-game-video-game-gif-20573521

Aug frost 500k glacials

[river walrus]

Yeah

And good luck connecting damage

[fallen estuary]

Haha rng root for 4 sec

X200000

[river walrus]

If you manage to do it the stupid broken evoker will just fly out with his Allie to the other side pf the map lol

[pale minnow]

Give mages anothe knockback

[fallen estuary]

Since microsoft now bought wow. Its time we get gravhammers and gravlifts

Mages fear the monkey

[river walrus]

I understand they wanted to give casters a chance to cast and run while being trained but they did it wrong. So much micro cc and slow It's cancer

[pale minnow]

Fire mage ain't a caster, he casts only cc, elem same,

[river walrus]

When I see frost mage/Aug evoker lobbies on my warrior I wanna cry because I literally can't move lol

[pale minnow]

Dot machine + instant 3-4-5 procc lava burst 100k

[river walrus]

At least ele shaman is less mobile

They didn't need burrow in my opinion

[pale minnow]

The secret is to swap on thr closest target so you won't loss healer

[frank knoll]

Yeah I just stay by the pillar and hit whatever is near me

So glad blades edge is going away for now

[river walrus]

It's crazy that every casters has more defensives, cc and mobility than majority of melee

[pale minnow]

Less mobile, with more utility, 2 knocks 1 static totem wolf form which clears all snares, root totem and so on

[fallen estuary]

Ngl im gonna miss it

Casters hate that map so i vote it into office

[frank knoll]

Ele getting big nerfs next patch
Warrior is only gonna be stronger

[river walrus]

I like the hook point map, wish it was on SS rotation

[fallen estuary]

Hook points the bomb

The best damn map theyve evrr made

[frank knoll]

Nagrand my fav

[fallen estuary]

Legit hook is a fight club

[frank knoll]

And black rook hold arena

[river walrus]

I know people hated SL but I miss S1 and S2 shadowlands.

[fallen estuary]

If they remove that mid pillar then ye brh is good

[frank knoll]

Robodrome is tight too

[river walrus]

Also, idk about you guys but I struggle a lot with the hpal meta

You're there trying to kill a freaking mage and he gets bop, sac and freedom

[pale minnow]

Yep and noone dispells bopsu eith your shitty shatter will get lossed

[fallen estuary]

Thats why i went fury

Bop? No worries odyns. Oh bop 2? No worries reck+ava

[pale minnow]

Paladin mage combo is an insta lose for warriors

[frank knoll]

A lot of hunters don’t know that tranq shot removes BoP

[frank knoll]

Odyns goes through BoP?

[river walrus]

It feels like it

[fallen estuary]

No

In legion ye when it was fire damage

[onyx marlin]

this is an automate response, sorry sorry to break it to you, they aint gonna do shit about it

[river walrus]

Today I had a stacked SS lobby. Was my fury warrior into hpal, rdruid, frost mage, Aug evoker, boomie. I wanted to rage quit so bad with all the cyclones, freedoms and roots

[fallen estuary]

Thats a portion of the message i got and the pther parts arent robotic

[onyx marlin]

xD

[river walrus]

Why did riot nerf cc for everyone and left cyclone untouched?

I mean blizzaed

[fallen estuary]

Riot

[onyx marlin]

before the ia was a thing theyr tickets were already 90% automate, imagine now

[frank knoll]

Bruh

@fallen estuary

[fallen estuary]

Gms actually do talk to me about this shit. Last month i got a healer banned. They got a gm from the eu to answer my message and informed me hes taking instant action over the evidence given.

The message for this one actually was talking about points i brought up in my complaint so someone def did read it and engage it

Lmao yea fdk is legit a sleeper

[frank knoll]

Chillpills lmao, that dude

He’s banned from the DK disc for being insane

[river walrus]

Yeah guy is insane

[fallen estuary]

Automod muted me for a min

[river walrus]

Watching him on dalaran 5x5 is always good

[fallen estuary]

Thx skyhold mods for the communism robot

Ok like i was saying

[frank knoll]

Yeah he’s good at FDK

[fallen estuary]

Chillpills is a poopyhead

Goes on dals streams 1tapping people left n right

And hes like a hookuh on the forums begging for sum buffs

[frank knoll]

Most people can’t drive a FDK like Chillpills can

I think he’s better than Flarkness probably

[fallen estuary]

Its too sad that chillpills is gatekeeping himself from himself

[frank knoll]

Wym?

[fallen estuary]

Chillpills claims fdk is bad and they cannot peak near 2400 while giving awc teir gameplay and wiping whole teams

[frank knoll]

Yeah

[river walrus]

I find partywaffles, chillpill and mes the best frost dks

[frank knoll]

I like watching him on Dalarans stream, and Chicago the god tier enhancement shaman

[fallen estuary]

Im legit gonna get one one of those streams one day

Que as prot

[frank knoll]

I haven’t seen any good fury warriors besides Grimgripp

[fallen estuary]

Ill givd chillpills a reason to beg for buffs

[frank knoll]

Warriors kinda don’t do great on there, cause they win one duel and the have to fight a rogue or something the next round and lose in the opener

[fallen estuary]

Thats why you que prot

Whatre they gonna do? Kill you?

[pale minnow]

Would be cool a solo q 1v1

A little game balance

[fallen estuary]

Oh hell naw

Mage n rogue doms that bracket

[frank knoll]

I don’t think Dalaran would allow you to queue Prot

[fallen estuary]

I gotta sleeps.

I hate mages

[cyan mauve]

anyone know what the drop rate of archavons heavy hand is
is it 100%

[keen silo]

is it worth taking disarm into unholy dk?

[cyan mauve]

id say so

[bright stream]

as arms? yeah

as fury depends on the 2nd

[pale minnow]

If he is the target ye

On low health u disarm him

[cyan mauve]

does anyone know if ur running executioner precision and it stacks twice and u stack both ur overpowers and u sharpen does that all work for one mortal strike hit

[pale minnow]

Can't really say more then what i experience so i can tell you my subjective opinion if you lucky u hit them for a massive 200k crit, if unlucky which is more likely to happen since crit is nerfed you'll fart a 70k

Passively is more dmg if you just rotate your abilities i wouldn't suggest you to be focused to always stack the 2 op 2 ex and sharp to much effort and you might get cooked on the proccess

[spice hornet]

Yes

But yeah as apex kind of said, don’t sit on ms too long trying to get all that stuff stacked

[spice hornet]

i like how we have to wait until 10.2 for them to fix the bug where tar trap root proc and steel trap don't share dr

[cyan mauve]

alright preesh

been liking executioners precision lately

just wasn’t really feelin hurricane or unhinged

[mild thunder]

that's been fixed forever, wut?

[spice hornet]

no its not

its for 10.2

3 sec tar trap root

into 5 second steel trap

errytime

[mild thunder]

that's weird, because tar trap is 4 seconds and steel trap is 6

[spice hornet]

you suck

im runninr relent

theyre shorter bvro

[mild thunder]

[mild thunder]

anyone here use threatplates custom nameplates?

[bright stream]

default UI for the most part

hate being held hostage by addons being kept up to date

[frank knoll]

What is “Classic plus” going to be

[fallen estuary]

More content for the classic client

[mild thunder]

hardcore

hardcore is classic+

[obtuse oar]

What's the best way to get 1k HK's, just spam epic BGs or a specific one? Wanna farm hidden appearances on alts. Ty.

[elfin surge]

holy aids

45 minute shuffle qs

arms warrior life, playing the popular spec

[obtuse oar]

I'm assuming Ashran or WG spam

[lavish quest]

Just kill 1k people as quickly as possible.

But yes I would assume an epic bg

[lavish quest]

Git a job

[elfin surge]

im at work right now

[lavish quest]

Sitting queues? Finally full time streamer???

[elfin surge]

this

holy fuck man

thats gunna take

so long

[lavish quest]

Yup. There's a reason I gave up on her 😂

[elfin surge]

bruh what is that

assuming i sit 45 minute qs

and 3-3 every lobby

thats 21 hours of sitting qs

????

[lavish quest]

I think they need to start giving healers blowies or something

They def need to fix how their rating works for sure tho

[elfin surge]

i shuffle spammed for 8 hours straight on saturday, played 8 lobbies

[lavish quest]

Math checks out

[elfin surge]

fuck man

lobbies are getting more aids the higher i go

[fickle forge]

Had you been a healer, it would have been 80 lobbies

🙏

[lavish quest]

Even tho I hit that 2400 a couple times, I'm been stuck bouncing around 2300 cause I'm trash

[elfin surge]

does anyone know if qing other specs count for legend wins

i remember last ssn they did

if u got 2400 as arms u could spam fury for wins

[fickle forge]

Don't think they do

But try

[elfin surge]

fuck

[lavish quest]

It seems like it would the way my head works. But dunno from experience or anything

Really trying to return to fury huh?

[fickle forge]

Q prot Mud

[elfin surge]

fuck yoy

[elfin surge]

LOL no

i need 85 wins for legend

but im already close to r1

dunno if i care to keep spamming for legend

if im safe obsidian legend

[lavish quest]

Just go higher as you spam 4head

[fickle forge]

Jessica will be all over you if you do

Ripe for the taking

[elfin surge]

karg trying so hard today

[fickle forge]

Trying hard not to Q into another ele sham yes

🙏

[elfin surge]

Man idk how people complain about shuffle being hard to climb? I just went 1-5 and got +19cr, just make sure your mmr is 300 above your cr.

[lavish quest]

If only I could

[mild thunder]

mfs will claim a global conspiracy before admitting a skill issue

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-goddamn-right-breaking-bad-youre-right-walter-white-gif-15742143

[fickle forge]

The highroad nuns literally praying to Trump to int my shuffles man

[mild thunder]

the deep state is ddosing me 🙏

[radiant hamlet]

https://imgur.com/Ld5TyDJ

damn someone recorded a random warrior main and sent it

[fallen estuary]

Gala streaming

Thats a hunter on the tv

Checks out

[radiant hamlet]

[mild thunder]

how tf can you tell if that's a hunter

[fallen estuary]

I see the disengage icon on the bar

[lavish quest]

You look at it and see hunter abilities/a focus bar...

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/community-ken-jeong-ben-chang-cant-see-small-gif-5154350

[lavish quest]

Skill issue

Pretty sure I see kill command and barbed shot, so makes sense. Bm players are monkeys

[fallen estuary]

Eyesight issue lmao

[lavish quest]

That's a skill

[fallen estuary]

Ye

[mild thunder]

eyesight is a skill?

[lavish quest]

Gala should have just used eyes of the eagle, whatever it is.

And yes

[frank knoll]

The Rothschilds meeting up at Bohemian grove to summon more frost mage and ele lobbies for me

[fickle forge]

You can see turtle on the bar

[mild thunder]

i use the old Det icon

[fickle forge]

[limber relic]

Are u THE kirosan?!

[radiant hamlet]

The one and only

[limber relic]

The monk?! D:

[radiant hamlet]

The one with the flying fists of zen, yes

[limber relic]

Ohai

[radiant hamlet]

How are you my duel nemesis

[limber relic]

😈

[limber relic]

Im well and alive, stil wrecking ppl in duels. Wbu bro

[radiant hamlet]

Can say about same but now im doing it on 3 classes instead of 1: warrior, rogue and monk

[dense herald]

Guys

[radiant hamlet]

[dense herald]

Whwre would u put

War on tier listfor 10.2

[radiant hamlet]

Pvp?

Easily A if not S tier

Arms though

Good tier set, legendary 2 hander, safeguard

[weak aspen]

As if you’re in here @thick reef, I used to duel you for hours at a time on my spriest

[limber relic]

[frank knoll]

Arms gonna be S tier

Leggo 2 hander will be nerfed in PvP still may take for ilvl though

[elfin surge]

Battle Shout: Increases Stamina by 3%.
Piercing Howl: Roots targets hit for 2 seconds.
Berserker Shout: Range increased by 8 yards.
Intimidating Shout: Cooldown reduced by 15 seconds.
Rallying Cry: Removes movement impairing effects and grants 30% movement speed to allies.
Thunderous Roar: Targets receive 5% more damage from all sources while bleeding.

[lavish quest]

You're all missing them announcing next week they're nerfing us by 20% in pvp and buffing slam by 30%

[elfin surge]

we get a 6% damage buff

holy fuck arms is gunna be broken

[green anchor]

Then last minute they will put back the .5 sec cast on Slam and you cannot move

[sharp meteor]

I thought it wasn't a full 6% buff because of warr modifiers and it's like half of that.

[elfin surge]

idk just says all damage

[sharp meteor]

I remember they did a 15% to execute and mine only got buffied by like

8% or something

[elfin surge]

what honor talents we gunna play now tho

lots of options

safeguard seems baseline

sharpen baseline

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, lot of choices.

Also why haven't they reworked

shadow of the colossus

[elfin surge]

this one seems so good too

piercing root

[lavish quest]

Well that's to compensate for less warbreaker

[thick reef]

Not me bro I’ve been playing wow for 2 months 😭

[elfin surge]

battle shout stam buff stacks with priest

[elfin surge]

facts

that does suck

[frank knoll]

Think we will have high warrior representation in AWC coming up?

[dense herald]

Whats dis

[fallen estuary]

Ray of frost mortality rate at sky high peaks next season 😔

[frank knoll]

That’s alright nobody is gonna play frost @fallen estuary

[dense herald]

Is dis wishlist or buffs guys

[green anchor]

buffs next Season

[fallen estuary]