you play prot and main warlock, wouldn't surprise me if you were a deadbeat too
#pvp
scarlet flame
fallen estuary
you play prot and main warlock, wouldn't surprise me if you were a deadbeat too
leave prot out of this, warlocks on the other hand are deadbeat dorito lords
fallen estuary
youre right
my shadowbolts
and magic missiles
i rolled a 20 and blew up this mage with my warrior magic missles
scarlet flame
you can't hide the default frames, need a script or wa or something idr
fallen estuary
tandas saying to reach in your toilet and start drawing on the screen your frames
scarlet flame
the only one reaching is you for the top shelf at a grocery store
every SS que you join as prot or warlock loses your height by 1"
scarlet flame
you're tall just like you dont play warlock
fallen estuary
why are you saying warlocks are tall, man i get it just dump the browser history already
from poop to tall warlocks
gawd
scarlet flame
scarlet flame
yeah i typed that all in instantly
fallen estuary
warlock magic
scarlet flame
hows this
scarlet flame
thats ok
nah i dont clean history im just a normal person
unlike you unhinged people
fallen estuary
unlike you unhinged people
watches pokemon k
scarlet flame
you can't believe there aren't people searching up wierd ass shit constantly
fallen estuary
like pokemon
scarlet flame
pokemon is the most normal game you can play
scarlet flame
its literally a childrens game
scarlet flame
fallen estuary
dawg i see people flailing their arms around uncontrollably with a switch in hand playing pokemon
theres no way pokemons a normal game
scarlet flame
dawg i see people flailing their arms around uncontrollably with a switch in han...
so you also watch pokemon
?
scarlet flame
so how would you know what pokemon video creators do
scarlet flame
no i didn't
i asked if you watched pokemon videos, you dodged like you always do, then i asked how would you know what the videos contain if you dont watch them
fallen estuary
scarlet flame
just totally ignoring the middle question that you ignored like normal
fallen estuary
like a pro-t
scarlet flame
dude only reads questions like he only sees what he wants
fallen estuary
pokemons a soyboy game
scarlet flame
how many accidents you got on your record
scarlet flame
leme guess none your fault
scarlet flame
dabdaddy the type of dude to listen to porn on his way to work
fallen estuary
dabdaddy the type of dude to listen to porn on his way to work
isnt pokemon
scarlet flame
well yea ofc it isnt my fault
is this even a real picture
scarlet flame
ugly ass car tbh
fallen estuary
im a transformer
violet fossil
looks kinda ai generated
fallen estuary
looks kinda ai generated
shhhhh lmao
violet fossil
This is real tho
prisma briar
you can't hide the default frames, need a script or wa or something idr
thx
scarlet flame
dabdaddy not only the king of prot warriors but hes the king of projecting too
fallen estuary
so now we are in skyrim, im lvl 100 in alteration now k
scarlet flame
ive never played skyrim so idk what those mean
fallen estuary
scarlet flame
but if it feeds your delusions go for it champ
fallen estuary
id rather play pokemon than be a warlock main
still rambling about those "tall warlocks" š
so just asking
since you are so into warlocks
whats his name
scarlet flame
youre right
you already confirmed it
fallen estuary
never did
scarlet flame
except you did its right there
fallen estuary
thats you casting mass delusion
scarlet flame
literally said "youre right"
fallen estuary
warlock
scarlet flame
lying is a prime aspect of warlocks
you're pretty good at lying
corrupting the truth is also something a warlock would do
you do that a lot
fallen estuary
well you casted curse of tongues on me so yea you warlocks always be playin games
scarlet flame
the only way you know what curse of tongues is is if you play a warlock
fallen estuary
sorry i spell reflect those on you warlock
scarlet flame
sounds like you know when a warlock wants to use curses, something only a warlock player would know
fallen estuary
whao why you sayin it like that
you projecting how you want curses cast on you bro, calm down there
scarlet flame
you're the guy who came up with that thought not me
fallen estuary
we get it you want that curse of weakness extra crippling
scarlet flame
now you're pushing your porn kinks on people via video game terms bro seek help
we get it, you're a porn addict, no one actually cares
fallen estuary
idk bro with you its been with poop, "tall warlocks", and now "the curses"
what next tarot cards?
scarlet flame
what are those
scarlet flame
wow this place got really soft really quickly huh
which pver had a total meltdown to cause this
fallen estuary
no worries next week well have to put our phone numbers in like the monk discord lmao
dawg just watch
mods gonna ban the word poop
then ill riot
quaint canopy
no worries next week well have to put our phone numbers in like the monk discord...
I dont even understand why servers would force that unless discord incentivizes it somehow so they can better monetize the users
mild thunder
I dont even understand why servers would force that unless discord incentivizes ...
Probably so they can ban people without them coming back with cringe alt accounts
Peak is a lot more moderated, but it shows. Server actually has helpful discussions and people with interesting input
All we do is schizo post 
quaint canopy
Probably so they can ban people without them coming back with cringe alt account...
it's trivial to reban offenders IMO, requiring people doxx themselves to discord is crappy
mild thunder
Thatās not really doxxingā¦
Their information isnāt being publicised, thereās no Peak of Serenity registry where you can go find people and their phone numbers lmao
quaint canopy
on discords end it surely is
they can monitize the hell out of a phone number attached to an account
mild thunder
Thatās literally not the definition of doxxing.
quaint canopy
Doxing or doxxing is the act of publicly providing personally identifiable information about an individual or organization, usually via the Internet.
I mean
we are splitting hairs here
mild thunder
Thank you for proving my point
quaint canopy
It's shitty to require someone to ID themselves to participate in a discord chat
remove the public element of that definition and its the same thing lol
mild thunder
Weāre not splitting hairs, you just used an incorrect term.
If you want to make a separate complaint about privacy and how private companies should be obligated to/not to use your information, thatās a different thing
quaint canopy
ok debate lord
mild thunder
remove the public element of that definition and its the same thing lol
Yea, thatās kinda the core part of the definition tho lol
Remove the human part of cannibalism and itās just the same as eating meat
quaint canopy
Pissing into the wind
My overall point is that it's dumb to require people to tie their online IDs to discord in order to participate in WoW discords
mild thunder
Itās one server, and itās their choice on how to moderate it
It seems to have had a positive effect
quaint canopy
It seems a bit big brain to correlate discord accounts tied to phone numbers with facilitating quality participation
mild thunder
Itās more about the prevention of troll/alt accounts, which I already mentioned
Not really a stretch at all
mild thunder
And if you wanna moderate a server that way or provide feedback to peak of serenity, Iām sure you can do that
Theyāre not reading these messages
fickle forge
@spice hornet
spice hornet
why is that turbo losing to my 12 year old autistic brother on his ret paladin
straight up getting rolled up and smoked by a 12 year old
7th grade
talk about how turbo takes some gigabrain iq
boreal stone
ur actually fuckign awful
i hope u know that
U do nothing right the entire game
and win
imagine defending that
fickle forge
talk about how turbo takes some gigabrain iq
How long can we make this 3rd dimensional convo
vapid tartan
anyone know how to make a /yell for a target you sharpen or intervene?
limber relic
I could make a weakaura for sharpen
fickle forge
I could make a weakaura for sharpen
Thefuck would you need that for
mild thunder
imagine defending that
they're both braindead, omega-cringe, drool on your keyboard comps
imagine pretending either of them take an above room-temp iq
it's like listening to a downs kid argue with an aspergers kid about who's the most regarded
boreal stone
imagine pretending either of them take an above room-temp iq
if ur the warrior in the comp, yeah. im playign enhance and have to do a lot to win every game tbh
fickle forge
if ur the warrior in the comp, yeah. im playign enhance and have to do a lot to ...
I also played enh in turbo, and it wasn't really all that big brain
It's basically an expanded warrior kit
You kick at 30 yd and hit ground like it's reflect, but with your team in mind
Party12 your surges like it's Intervene
boreal stone
pointless argument it seems
fickle forge
My guy that's how it is lmao
Ret+warr and turbo are practically the same comp in different colours
mild thunder
enh rotation also about as mindless as arms
99% of your damage presses are stormstrike
solemn basin
Itās too bad enh doesnāt have an MS effect or has that changed?
mild thunder
no, it's not too bad
too many classes have ms already, why tf would enh get it
they have a spammable purge and off-healing
fallen solar
So Iāve been on nights at work and been playing on my laptop at work and starting at 3am is when all the toxic people get on.
I have figured it out lol
Guess what.
They all from Tichondrius
Go figure
Most toxic try hard realm lol
Speaking from a world PvP standpoint also cause getting in a solo shuffle at that time is near impossible
fickle forge
too many classes have ms already, why tf would enh get it
Tbf, no melee functions without it, with the except of sub
No MS comps only work if they have spam CC, like two casters š š
And always ends in giga damp
Aka ele+boomy
mild thunder
Tbf, no melee functions without it, with the except of sub
ret, enh, dk all work fine without it
feral was fine without it
but i also dont think it's that insane for feral to have it
fickle forge
ret, enh, dk all work fine without it
Yeah but what do they all like to do? Q it up with another spec that does have MS
mild thunder
yea? is that bad?
fickle forge
No, but it just goes to show they want MS to work
mild thunder
i'd rather they didnt homogenise all the specs
fickle forge
Well, maybe not if you're the MS spec, but it's ass if you're the one that's reliant on it
Like my frost DK literally can't Q with anything but arms warr or WW monk
mild thunder
ive played specs with it and specs without it, feels fine either way
because they almost always bring something else instead
ret utility and healing, giga burst, unkiteable etc.
enh damage, utility and heals, spammable purge
dk bringing it's own unique "ms", tons of cc, utility, damage etc.
and all the casters bring cringey caster shit
i definitely dont want them getting an ms 
fickle forge
I mean yeah, and all of it is really good in a comp
wheat jay
only ms in the game
fickle forge
When someone else is bringing the MS
But like why do you never see 2s FDKs, rets, enh etc.
Cause they can't kill shit
They need a 3s comp that brings MS
mild thunder
you need a 3s comp that brings a healer too, doesnt mean every class should be able to heal
wheat jay
fury getting some nreds iirc
mild thunder
or a magi dispel
doesnt mean everyone should have one
fury is gonna be ass lol, anni build dead in the water
mild thunder
if you're looking at dh on ptr and thinking it's gonna be anything like that on live, you're a regard
fickle forge
you need a 3s comp that brings a healer too, doesnt mean every class should be a...
I mean not the same since that's role diff
mild thunder
or a magi dispel
.
frank knoll
Naw I was just reading the rework notes, and I know it does lots of damage in general
Iām not on the PTR
mild thunder
there are dps that bring magic dispels
fickle forge
Tied to CDs usually yeah
mild thunder
so?
fickle forge
Like Feign or Reverse
frank knoll
Blade dance absorb will be a choice node with the MS which is awkward
mild thunder
feign, reverse, whatever aug has, MD... i guess warrior should get it too
fickle forge
But it's not the same dude
mild thunder
They're major CDs
i wouldnt call a 20s CD "major" tbh
fickle forge
MS is straight up game defining
The others are tools that contribute
Kits if you will
mild thunder
But it's not the same dude <a:keksquad:766690598635044895>
and i dont think having comp-defining buffs/effects like that is bad... 3s has always been about the comp moreso than the individual class, and i think that's fine
fickle forge
and i dont think having comp-defining buffs/effects like that is bad... 3s has a...
Yeah and that's fine for 3s and for a comp
But it sucks for the melee reliant on it because their comp pool is now narrow af
mild thunder
it's not really tho
mild thunder
fdk has few comps for an entirely different reason lmao
it has one window of kill potential and is a kite-bot between that
fickle forge
FDK lowkey does mad sustained damage
Cleave is insane
But it never kills
Cause no MS
So the next solution in line is to kill with a one shot
Aka augmentation+FDK or TWD
mild thunder
from SL - now uhdk has been successful with dh, druid, evoker, hunter, ww, lock and warrior
doesnt seem that limited
fickle forge
UDK also has MS
mild thunder
ehhhhhhhhh
fickle forge
Albeit not an insane one, but it has it
fickle forge
Doesn't it stack to max during apoc?
mild thunder
it's not an ms and it still gets value out of playing with ms specs... but that's hasnt limited its comp potential
fickle forge
And I mean of the above, only boomy and uwuker has no MS, but had the benefit of being massively overtuned
mild thunder
lock?
mild thunder
does demo have a consistent ms?
fickle forge
Yes
fickle forge
Pretty sure the pet is keeping it up perma
mild thunder
ok i'll assume that's true
still a lotta comps to choose from
idk about you but id rather frost mage not have an ms
fickle forge
fickle forge
idk about you but id rather frost mage not have an ms
Same, but caster comps work cause they can just spam CC instead
fickle forge
Casters work without MS
Melees don't
There's not a single melee cleave that doesn't feature MS in some form
mild thunder
not all casters have spammable cc tho
fickle forge
Rare exceptions has been when both melees were massively overtuned
Like BFA hero cleave
fickle forge
not all casters have spammable cc tho
Ele is the only one though
mild thunder
kinda hard to make one without it tbh
fickle forge
isnt that just because 7/9 melee cleaves DO have an ms?
Why do we never see DK+ret?
Enh+DK
Feral+enh
mild thunder
wait, i thought we were saying dk has an ms?
fickle forge
I mean yeah UDK
mild thunder
Feral+enh
pre sure saul pushed this relatively successfully earlier this season
i played it too
it's a good comp
or was, idk about now
fickle forge
pre sure saul pushed this relatively successfully earlier this season
Did he?
I mean respect if they did
mild thunder
feral has an ms lol
fickle forge
Thought it was weak af last I saw it
mild thunder
we dont see dk/ret because they're both generally kinda squishy... something like tsg is not only bringing an ms, it's more durable
fickle forge
Idk what it's like now
fickle forge
I know a guy who Q'd ret+DK, and their strat was to run inbetween their goes
Cause doing sustained was pointless
frank knoll
Wast FDK/Ret a thing at one point
fickle forge
But it's also true for hybrid comps
mild thunder
do you think the only thing ret/warr has over ret/dk is an ms?
fickle forge
You rarely see non-MS melee + non-MS caster
fickle forge
do you think the only thing ret/warr has over ret/dk is an ms?
No, but I think it matters a lot too
mild thunder
if ret had an ms would it be as good as ret/warr?
fickle forge
It would surely compete, depending on meta
Unlike now where it's never seeing light
mild thunder
ehhh idk, i think that's a stretch... ret/warr is strong because it is insanely durable and brings an absurd amount of team utility
ret/dk wouldnt
fickle forge
It still has AMZ, a lot of micro interrupts and grip+chains of skill for uptime
Silence is nutty too
mild thunder
amz is a meme, ams doesnt absorb a whole lot anymore but yea the micro cc is good still
but i stand by my point that regardless of an ms, there are other reasons ret/dk wouldnt work
as well as other comps
and i also just dont think having certain comps being intrinsically more viable than others is bad
mild thunder
isnt the cap still like, pretty low?
fickle forge
Last I was on my DK it was like 700k-750k or so
So you'd have to tank 1.5M damage for it to be destroyed
Hope I'm not giga caping rn, but it's what I recall in the back of my head
mild thunder
ig maybe im getting confused with ams nerfs but last i remembered it's just not as good as it was
mild thunder
degenerate behaviour
fickle forge
Collect free elo
mild thunder
idk what i wanna alt next season... might just do rogue since im gonna play assa in pve
but feral is always calling to me
fickle forge
@wheat jay is only talking it down because he can't kill a healer to save his life
He can only CC them
mild thunder
i love killing MWs in the opener as jungle 
wheat jay
<@291636646225379328> is only talking it down because he can't kill a healer to ...
killing healers is boring
benny hill music in the background
chasing 24/7
fickle forge
killing healers is boring
Shut up man, you just can't do it
wheat jay
you cant do dmg
mild thunder
shut up man, you just cant do it
mild thunder
frank knoll
The only cool thing Europe has is football hooligans
quaint osprey
https://www.twitch.tv/pokemons_wow (its the accused shaman cheater in the venruki video)
fickle forge
Baj is him
mild thunder
he's just normal
compared to all the other streamers being maximum artistic cringelords
fickle forge
compared to all the other streamers being maximum artistic cringelords
Catboy Nahj arc
wheat jay
The only cool thing Europe has is football hooligans
no school shootings
id say thats pretty cool
sage raptor
Oi bruv you got a loisense fuh dat buttuh knoife?
sage raptor
The only cool thing Europe has is football hooligans
The coolest thing Europe has are airports that can get you out.
If that's not progress idk what is
frank knoll
The closest thing the states have to football hooliganism is certain rivalries or maybe Boston sports fans
frank knoll
no school shootings
Yeah youāll just get stabbed to death instead
wheat jay
not too many stabbings in poland
fickle forge
Yeah youāll just get stabbed to death instead
Britain ain't part of EU anymore fam
It's its own continent now
mild thunder
not too many stabbings in poland
americans think europe = the uk
they cant help it
wheat jay
lmao
mild thunder
shit man, most americans probably cant point to their own states on a map
lavish quest
Damn. Toxic
wheat jay
shit man, most americans probably cant point to their own states on a map
name 3 countries clips xD
sage raptor
americans think europe = the uk
They don't think that, the uk is just an easy target
For me at least
France too
mild thunder
i meannnnnn, someone mentions europe and americans come out with UK stereotypes
wheat jay
better to be french than from alabama i guess
mild thunder
does make it seem like they think europe = UK
sage raptor
i meannnnnn, someone mentions europe and americans come out with UK stereotypes
Yes and?
mild thunder
better to be french than from alabama i guess
you're gonna be an inbred either way lmao
sage raptor
better to be french than from alabama i guess
Oregon has the highest rate of inbreeding which I find ironic
wheat jay
uk stereotypes are not even close to all the states stereotypes
every state has something fucked up
and its not even a stereotype
shit's actual reality for you
sage raptor
you're on the losing end of that fight
There is no fight
sage raptor
shit's actual reality for you
Idk about that one
But when every state is the size of a small country, sure ig
sage raptor
i meannnnnn, someone mentions europe and americans come out with UK stereotypes
Because it's funny
mild thunder
it's not relevant tho lmao
and yea it makes it very obvious that americans dont know what countries make up europe other than the UK
sage raptor
Okay next time I'll throw a dart at Europe and make fun of whatever country it lands on
wheat jay
nice
mild thunder
how are you gonna claim "it's just sarcasm?"
just find new jokes bro
it aint that hard
sage raptor
Well tell the uk to stop being an easy target
wheat jay
man's got that german sense of humour i guess
mild thunder
Well tell the uk to stop being an easy target
you're an american 
you are the last person to call someone else an easy target
sage raptor
And the first thing people say are school shootings
wheat jay
i meaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
sage raptor
I'd like to hear something else too but we can't get what we want.
mild thunder
literally the only thing americans say are "b-b-but stabbings!!!"
sage raptor
y'all had like 300 shootings in 2022
Do you know what classifies as a shooting as opposed to literally other countries?
Moreso at or around schools
mild thunder
wheat jay
enlighten me
wheat jay
is it not someone coming to shcool with a gun and shotting on the school grounds?
sage raptor
Don't talk smack about my wife
wheat jay
with the intent to shoot other people
sage raptor
You'd think that but no
mild thunder
we about to get the essay about why school shootings arent that bad
sage raptor
Negligent discharge near school property is considered a school shooting
sage raptor
we about to get the essay about why school shootings arent that bad <:deadge:900...
I am NOT entertaining this conversation enough to write an essay.
mild thunder
Negligent discharge near school property is considered a school shooting
in FBI statistics, or by some random news network?
sage raptor
I'm playing CoD.
wheat jay
Negligent discharge near school property is considered a school shooting
we talking about shootings with the use of gun or other discharge?
XD
cuz man that sounds sus
sage raptor
Ewwwwww
wheat jay
ahghahahahaha
sage raptor
Both >.>
sage raptor
Hey man. The possibility of getting caught is very exciting.
fickle forge
It really ain't you freakshow
mild thunder
Any fem orc gamers?
healthiest american
fallen solar
Yeah America has way too many school shootings. Itās fucked over here
Itās fucked everywhere tbh
The whole world is fooked
lavish quest
Weren't you trying to claim the land of the Hobbits the other day?
mild thunder
new zealand doesnt deserve to be a country
they're just us, but with a sheep fetish
lavish quest
And you would like the proud ownership over the sheep fetish. Got it. š
frank knoll
shit man, most americans probably cant point to their own states on a map
Canāt read a map yet somehow we conquered the world
Curious
frank knoll
australia is based and epic
Will be invaded by China without the seppos help
mild thunder
And you would like the proud ownership over the sheep fetish. Got it. š
they need to be re-educated
mild thunder
Canāt read a map yet somehow we conquered the world
Curious
sorry, i should've specified the average regarded american cant read a map
the politicians can 
lavish quest
Woah, we can read a map. We just use a different one
sage raptor
Jews
mild thunder
america
sage raptor
America
I wish all the cities would burn down and all the urbanites become depressed
mild thunder
what a beautiful river... would look so much better with a walmart and a denny's on the side
sage raptor
Yknow i was just thinking the same thing
fickle forge
The whole world is fooked
Just US fam
lavish quest
Just US fam
Nah. Much more than just the US. Even if it's the US fuckin up the other places too
fickle forge
Nah. Much more than just the US. Even if it's the US fuckin up the other places ...
Nah just US fam
Really
mild thunder
every day i wake up and i thank god for the one blessing he gave me - not being american
frank knoll
Yeah thank god ur estrogen levels are too high to be American 
fickle forge
America has literally negative levels of testo
sage raptor
Idk there's been a lot of trannies lately
frank knoll
Well for me I wake up every morning thanking god I donāt live in Albania
mild thunder
Yeah thank god ur estrogen levels are too high to be American <:xeos:94550169784...
also werent you bragging about being an androgynous softboy? lmao
sage raptor
Me personally, it's Armenia
fickle forge
America has like 99% of people that have low af testo and the other 1% has it all
frank knoll
No, I said alot of bodybuilders are roidcells
fickle forge
You're either top of the food chain world class or nothing in America
No inbetween ever
lavish quest
Nah just US fam
I mean... US is probably the worst of it. But plenty of other places too tbh
Maybe one day I'll leave the clownshow, but until then, lemme go grab my makeup
frank knoll
You're either top of the food chain world class or nothing in America
Not necessarily true
But thatās the way itās going unfortunately:( because corpos can just do whatever they want now
frank knoll
Hasan is right about a lot
You donāt like him cause he has money
fickle forge
Average Andrew Tate supporter
mild thunder
everything hasan is "right" about is because he's a morally lucky regard... idgaf that he has money, homeboy is a successful capitalist
sage raptor
Make sure you check the early life of big money
mild thunder
i just think it's cringe that he larps as an online socialist and other regards fall for it
mild thunder
š§¢
frank knoll
Heās not calling for a proletarian revolution or anything like that
mild thunder
you might be thinking demsoc
which would be a bit closer
a socdem is just your everyday, ordinary, biden-loving liberal
fallen solar
I love Elon Musk
frank knoll
Gay
fallen solar
I like Elon Musk
sage raptor
Well yeah he's South African
frank knoll
He should make a company for that
mild thunder
soylon
sage raptor
Ooo yeah. And have it where the hair plugs connect to an app where you can change the length and color.
Damn I like that
frank knoll
You have Soylon Musk
And Jeff Bezos who looks like walking amalgamation of TRT
sage raptor
Hmmm today I will have 4 feet of hair and blonde and purple streaks and tomorrow it will be blue and red.
fallen solar
Best thing I can say about America is that we can carry a gun on us almost everywhere you go. Other countries canāt such as Australia. I do believe it should be more difficult to acquire one
https://tenor.com/view/america-hurricane-happy4th-of-july-america-flag-independence-day-gif-21259025
sage raptor
I don't need to do paperwork to privately buy or sell a firearm. That's what I love.
mild thunder
and yet ive never stepped outside and felt the need to carry a gun... amazing what not living in america will do for you
fallen solar
Well yeah America has a lot of crazy people so we need to protect ourselves lol
sage raptor
The masculine urge to get in a shootout with the alphabet boys on private property is strong today
Also
There's like, a LOT of guns and drugs being smuggled across the border rn.
fallen solar
Crazy person in Australia decides to go off they just gonna send a big as spider or a kangaroo to fight for them
mild thunder
ive never read so much cringe in my life
fallen solar
Hey I wanna fight a Kano
sage raptor
It'll make sense if you live close to mexico
fallen solar
Kangaroo
sage raptor
Kano is the best
sage raptor
The worst thing about Texas is the lack of goth girls
Gotta go up north with those damn yankees
sage raptor
Yeah my days of going north are over
lavish quest
Can't handle the cold huh?
sage raptor
No I love the cold.
mild thunder
fuck summer
fuck the sun
fuck hot weather
fuck people that enjoy it
i wanna wake up and feel like this every day
or im not happy
the only shitty thing about australia is the goddamn heat... not even summer yet and we're getting ~40 degree days
probably gonna be peaking >46 this christmas
fallen estuary
Gotta go up north with those damn yankees
Up north all you will find is ental illness
Trust me its that aoe aura canada emits
sage raptor
its gotta be
every time I go up north I have to bring hotsauce
I cant believe they dont have bone-in pizzas
quaint osprey
why is this only on the 10.2 PTR and not on live
rapid shore
Its coming in 10.2?
sage raptor
Silly goose
rapid shore
quaint osprey
lazy ass mfer even too lazy to add the only FoS available at the Season
rapid shore
lazy mf gets our money with or without fos
sharp meteor
why is this only on the 10.2 PTR and not on live
It was on live, then they removed it with a recent patch for no reason
can't even track wins with script
frank knoll
The worst thing about Texas is the lack of goth girls
Theyāre in Austin Houston and Dallas
dry harness
This might be a dumb question, but I having the full gladiator set with high vers is more important for Arms then the tier set, yeah?
I'm a PvE main and we're trained to chase tier no matter what, so I want to check the facts on this.
wheat jay
Full pvp gear is priority
But there's catalyst
So just get your tier for free from it
quaint osprey
can't even track wins with script
you can, they changed the command for it
lavish quest
This might be a dumb question, but I having the full gladiator set with high ver...
No. You want tier, that scales in pvp. So convert pvp gear to tier. It's okay to lose some verse since over 30% (in pvp) starts to have diminishing returns so becomes less valuable.
Some peices for many even end up being craft with pvp scaling to avoid verse that way as well
dry harness
Thank you! So the "Increases Item level to 450" is a priority, but not necessarily the stats provided I hit the 30% Vers threshold in PvP.
lavish quest
Well tier stats are predetermined so you're taking what they give you with the exception of 1 of the 5 (since you only need 4.) The best one to not use is either the head or the legs because they have crit and crit is trash. I personally don't use the legs.
Every peice you have on should read scales to 450. Unless you're using scalewarden bracers or something for stat optimizations, but those scale to 447
You can also make crafted gear that scales in pvp with the trophies, for fine tuning your stats more.
You're pretty safe to armory up Magnuz or Laros or another top warrior and slap on what they wear
Not @elfin surge he's a washed up A-tier warrior
elfin surge
spice hornet
Aussies talking shit again?
green wyvern
Real
green anchor
fallen estuary
Not <@269709440146604032> he's a washed up A-tier warrior
Mud retired to fight the silithids in silithus
A real man fights the bugs, not eat them
fallen estuary
and yet ive never stepped outside and felt the need to carry a gun... amazing wh...
I mean we do like cod in america so we do make the most insane looking guns to carry in public
fallen estuary
Crazy person in Australia decides to go off they just gonna send a big as spider...
Aussie military
They strap sharpened sporks to them for additional firepower
And they make little sheet metal armor for the spiders as war tanks
fallen estuary
They lost to bipedal dogs lmao
frank knoll
Aussie military
Aussie militaries biggest achievement that they brag about is losing a battle to the Turks in WW1
And then losing to a bunch of birds
fallen estuary
Now theyre all drained down to having the most deadly wildlife as an achievement
Imagine getting bit by a 2 ton tarantula and being "damn bro that was awesome! I love being in australia!"
2 weeks later you die to an infection
Idk the spider mortality rate in aussie land but gala would know 100% since he has a spider that he walks around da neighborhood on a leash
And mud viciously assaults his spider lmao
winter jewel
Anyone here close to 2k in ss as prot? If so what embellishment s you running and did you craft get or use vender? Iām currently at the ER prolly about to have emergency testicular surgery bc I ignored a very bad hernia for too long being stubborn lmfao so imma have a lot of time on my hands and wanted to do a R1 push as prot
wispy cedar
fartji
fallen estuary
dawg if you are pushing R1 as prot
it sgoing to be utter torment
im 2k rn and its brutal
mostly you need your teammates to work to get wins
sharp meteor
Anyone here close to 2k in ss as prot? If so what embellishment s you running an...
Infurious boots then probably just shadowflame.
Or double shadowflame.
Embellishments don't really matter, though, I think my highest is just using sporecloak.
fallen estuary
mythrax
sharp meteor
Idk if he can be duo'd
fallen estuary
he can
i just did 2 mythics duoed
ghuun can be duoed as well
but mythic ghuun cant
ya mind helping me
sharp meteor
Doing a dunjo right now.
worthy fern
Is falling through the map on blades edge been common this season?
Happened to a ret in one of my lobbies leading to a win for me then happened to me the very next game
From mage blast waves
wheat jay
Is falling through the map on blades edge been common this season?
Happened to me too
Blades edge should get removed
Its super buggy
scarlet flame
No one like blades edge thatās why they keep it in
sharp meteor
Amirdrassil, the Dreamās Hope (4) Set Bonus: Consuming Thunderous Roar now deals 100% of its remaining damage.
sharp meteor
Blades edge should get removed
Disabled until they fix the knock/dc thing at least, yeah.
sharp meteor
Is falling through the map on blades edge been common this season?
Kind of. A recent patch broke it so if you're displaced while disoriented or incapped it'll often fling you through the world.
There's some mages who'll play to knock people off the map as blast wave seems best for it.
fallen estuary
Amirdrassil, the Dreamās Hope (4) Set Bonus: Consuming Thunderous Roar now deals...
for prot?
pls tell me
scarlet flame
Booo prot
scarlet flame
Prot = poop
sharp meteor
No, you.
scarlet flame
No you
sharp meteor
We press on with our E- tier spec against all odds.
scarlet flame
Fox I want to respect you so bad but the furry trash and tank specs are too much
sharp meteor
Bear is Z tier, prot is like E tier.
fallen estuary
i need that sword transmog
scarlet flame
keepin up with that poop stuff tanda
I did it just for you I know you got that kink
fallen estuary
dunno you said it first
just watch out
gala might come in smelling some sydney cuisine
sharp meteor
<@129440991294783488> help me with mythrax š”
I don't wanna do uldir or anything right now.
fallen estuary
sharp meteor
Bad in arena, okayish in shuffle, I think
sharp meteor
Thunderous Roar is omega trash on prot anyway
Not really?
fickle forge
Not really?
A S S
fallen estuary
skullsplitter shield slamms
fickle forge
TR is badge on prot kappa
sharp meteor
Sonic boom probs better into some stuff but lots of games are tanky and they drag on
and thunderous feels nice
fallen estuary
Yea sonic is bis but the bleed deain included with 2 n 4 pce is insanely great
But they better be crit haste pces for teir š”
sharp meteor
Idk if it's bis I think it depends
if you're only killing in a go there's minimal cleave and bg value then yeah it's sick
boreal veldt
They nerfed the helm by 50%, but i think it's still viable
fallen estuary
They nerfed embellishments by 50% but not mages or rogues? Damn devs rlly are biased in changes š
mild thunder
literally none of the embellishment changes affect pvp lmao
spice hornet
boomkin takes no damage from warrior ON GOD
sharp meteor
š¦
spice hornet
also even the worst of sub rogues are accidentally immortal
frank knoll
@sage raptor whatās ur Locks name
fallen solar
Wait. Was there a conversation earlier about no other classes really have 100% MS other than Arms?
Was hunter mentioned? Cause with the right pet, thatās 100% uptime
mild thunder
Wait. Was there a conversation earlier about no other classes really have 100% M...
there was a conversation about wanting all melee to have ms
pretty much every class with an ms has near-100% uptime on it
the only one that doesnt is dh because iirc blade dance CD is always longer than the debuff unless you're resetting it
warped comet
Is there a place to look at Arena Comp rankings for 2v2?
what's "the" wow pvp website
mild thunder
wdym by arena comp rankings? i dont think there's a website that tells you x% of people queued arms/rdruid, or rogue/mage etc... best you'll get is Drustvar.com which shows the ladder and allows you to look at breakdowns of spec popularity, fluctuations over time, r1 cutoffs etc.
fallen solar
there was a conversation about wanting all melee to have ms
I donāt play much of Fury but doesnāt one of their talents have a similar effect?
mild thunder
yep
fallen solar
Fury is nice, I just feel like I pressure way better with arms
Fury has crazy damage though
fallen solar
Iāve noticed that.
mild thunder
i wouldnt expect fury to be meta again in pvp anytime soon
the one build that gave them something over arms - annihilator sustain - is completely dead in 10.2
fallen solar
True. Next season tho that tier set for fury does look good. I like the Arms better tho. That rend damage and the thunderclap seems like it will be good
fallen solar
Do any of yāall run skull splitter?
unique fox
I dont think anyone does anymore
mild thunder
True. Next season tho that tier set for fury does look good. I like the Arms bet...
fury tier set kinda meh after the nerf to bloodthirst... you could get that damage out super quickly before
now you're stuck waiting 4s for the second bloodthirst
random fractal
what would cause this
was in a normal bg and saw my odyns did no damage for some reason during one of my bursts
then saw i missed 37 and odyns did no damage
(it wasnt 6 rogues, it was like clothies and plates
never seen this happen before, not sure if its a rogue talent with shroud
shroud doesnt cause misses though so im still confused lmao
did the same with ravager and ww
candid citrus
dawg its prot time next season
its worth the price of admission just to see him whine about prot ... you gotta luv wow karma...
random fractal
searing glare
i see
im just noob ig
have not seen that talent before ever, thank you though, we be learning
spice hornet
searing glare is so toxic
unique fox
not enough
wheat jay
Pve offset of the ignore pain nerf
fallen solar
Any of yāall been a victim of the sweaty beta cucks in World PvP abusing that dreamsurge bug yet?
mild thunder
Pve offset of the ignore pain nerf
lame af that they didnt address the real issue
wheat jay
And what is the real issue?
Arms has 0 issues that can be fixed with just nerf/buff
One of the most complete specs in the game
With more than absurd damage
Crazy as fuck anti-cc and peels
Crazy kill pressure with sharpen
mild thunder
okay now you're capping
arms has one of the worst-designed rotations in the game
nah
THE worst
wheat jay
Have you played dh?
mild thunder
yep
wheat jay
Dumbest shit on the planet
mild thunder
mhmm, because arms op > ms spam is so high iq
wheat jay
And then again, I did mention that it has 0 issues than can be fixed with number changes
You'd need a rework for that
mild thunder
yea
wheat jay
Which is not happening this expansion
mild thunder
im fine with arms getting a rework
it needs it
what's the point of nerfing the IP interaction if you're not gonna address the actual underlying problems?
now arms can do literally the same rotation and be just as passively tanky
but they dont get the Ip interaction
ww > sv > warrior is the order that tree/spec reworks should go in
wheat jay
what's the point of nerfing the IP interaction if you're not gonna address the a...
To remove degenerate playstyle in pve
Its a pve nerf
Cuz spamming ip in raids was cancer
Same reason why they removed hamstring from separate gcd in legion
mild thunder
yea it doesnt really change that tho... it just removes the interaction without addressing the fact that arms has unusable amounts of excess rage
wheat jay
Because everyone just macroed it to their dmg skills
mild thunder
you can still do the same thing, because that rage isnt going anywhere
wheat jay
yea it doesnt really change that tho... it just removes the interaction without ...
Removes a stupid interaction
That was the goal
wheat jay
you can still do the same thing, because that rage isnt going anywhere
Ye but its not going to dps meter
wheat jay
but the interaction is a result of bad design
Not really, it was an unintended design flaw
So they removed it
Makes perfect sense
mild thunder
no, now you just have a perma-capped rage bar that you cant utilise to increase your dps
such great design omg
wheat jay
As if wow was peak design game lmao
mild thunder
oh, so because wow isnt peak game design they shouldnt fix this very poor design?
there are specs with significantly more fun and interesting playstyles than arms, there's no reason for it to languish in the position it is right now
green wyvern
arms is awful design
wheat jay
Then again, no class is actually difficult to do damage
mild thunder
I find ms/op spam quite fun when I want a break from survi
there are other specs that cater to that regard-tier gameplay tho, there's no reason for arms to be one of them when it has the potential to be so much more
mild thunder
3 buttons, we're really moving up in the world boys
wheat jay
Thunder clap too, to get rid of rage
mild thunder
Then again, no class is actually difficult to do damage
something doesnt have to be explicitly difficult for it to have nuance... feral isnt hard to do damage but it has infinitely more going on than arms and that's what makes it fun
wheat jay
Combo points and 2 dots to keep up?
green wyvern
dh has also way more going on than arms
mild thunder
feral keeps 4 dots up, has multiple ways of snapshotting, multiple procs to play around and energy management
yea, that's more than arms
could it have more? yes, i'd love SR back
but it's still in an infinitely better spot than arms
wheat jay
Its core design is basically unchanged for 3 expansions now
mild thunder
if the design is so bad that you essentially ignore your only resource
wheat jay
Get rid of rage to have CS more often
mild thunder
it's time to seriously re-evaluate
wheat jay
Spam ms/op
wheat jay
if the design is so bad that you essentially ignore your only resource
Even when it wasnt ignored all it brought to the table was charge weaving
Which was a small minigame that didnt rly change much
It wasnt some peak skill expression
mild thunder
that's not even true, there was always at least some small mini-game you were playing in regards to not dropping below a certain cap
even just that is better than literally nothing
and then you could charge-weave on top of that
which was also neat
wheat jay
that's not even true, there was always at least *some* small mini-game you were ...
Lmao not really
You just had lower Rage, that's all
You either waited for rage or charged
Literally 0 difference except you don't wait now
mild thunder
even if i were to grant all that (which i wont, because you're wrong), all that would prove is that it was poorly designed before
doesnt mean it should continue to be poorly designed now
fuck, if fury has more resource management than you it's time to seriously start questioning how you got where you are
and again, it doesnt have to be a super autistic, giga-IQ spec for it to be fun... just a few more interconnecting effects, a bit more resource management and a more fleshed out rotation
wheat jay
fuck, if fury has more resource management than you it's time to seriously start...
It always had more rage management, and that management is just filling up the bar
Last time Arms was more complicated was legion
mild thunder
people calling for arms to be like it was in legion is fairly common
ig people want something more than a drool-on-your-keyboard spec
idk i dont think it's a hot take to say that arms design just isnt very good right now
green wyvern
bro
arms design
is awful
no need to sugarcoat
they will make it strong in pvp regardless
mild thunder
yea idgaf about arms power level so much
i just want it to be actually engaging to play again
green wyvern
feels like warrior designer went for milk and never came back
mild thunder
arms tree went through so many reworks during DF beta only to end up like this 
wheat jay
arms tree went through so many reworks during DF beta only to end up like this <...
And dont expect anything else tbh
Game is not like legion anymore
Specs have been dumbed down to make them all more approachable
mild thunder
there are a plethora of specs all more interesting, engaging and nuanced than arms
pretty much every other spec
wheat jay
Bm
mild thunder
the only melee i can think of as dull as arms is ret
wheat jay
Hell, even survi dmg profile is dumb as fuck
mild thunder
survival absolutely doesnt play as poorly as arms lmao
mild thunder
there's some stuff to improve, but yea you've gotta be capping so hard right now
mild thunder
mongoose, bomb, explo, kc, chak, flanking, FotE (if you take it), ks and the passives they all have
is it perfect? nope, there's tons id do to mix it up
but it's leaaaagues better than arms lol
wheat jay
Bro you're cappin, do we include all cooldowns in arms tree too?
mild thunder
all cooldowns? colossus smash
wheat jay
Basic rotation is 3 buttons
wheat jay
Cs, Avatar, bs
mild thunder
avatar isnt a button that alters your rotation
it's off gcd
you press it
you do more dmg
mild thunder
yea, just a passive you literally dont pay attention to
wheat jay
Full Rage bar
And you're not as capped as you are in pve, at least when you spam execute and ip
wheat jay
Execute+ip and you're out od rage
wheat jay
unless you're regarded
Regarded?
mild thunder
yes
wheat jay
mild thunder
regtarded
wheat jay
Just say the word like a Man, its not a racial slur...
mild thunder
id rather not get timed out again
but yea i'll agree sv isnt exactly peak pve rotation either (up there tho)... i'd like stuff like auto-serpent sting removed and a spearhead rework... maybe stuff like black arrow and flayed shot back
but it's still leagues, leagues and fucking miles ahead of arms
wheat jay
but yea i'll agree sv isnt exactly peak pve rotation either (up there tho)... i'...
Tbh wild spirits
Instead of flayed
It was better designed spell by itself
wheat jay
WoA?
wheat jay
There's bitchery for that
mild thunder
i hate butchery too
carve >>>>>>>
animation is so much cleaner
i fucking hate butchery
mild thunder
let me do this soy ass twirl with my sword like im a fucking ballerina
wheat jay
Best survi rotational skill
mild thunder
yea, id rather they just bake butchery into carve... give me the cool animation and positional requirements but with an actually good ability
