pvp

[fickle forge]

Run MW over

[wheat jay]

Can we rename ret/warr to damp cleave?

[limber relic]

Not rly. 5min tops

[fickle forge]

9-5 cleave

Cause it's the cleave you wanna play when you come home from work and just wanna chillax

[fickle forge]

If it's not sub-3 min I wanna /afk

[wheat jay]

Kfc f1

[mild thunder]

like, genuinely... do you not see the coincidence that you were stuck and then all of a sudden climbed when you played the meta comp right now?

[wheat jay]

Ret/warr slow walk in the park

[limber relic]

Yeah well u prob die before tht i guess?

:x

[fickle forge]

Die or kill

[mild thunder]

and that you're then trying to brag and attack other people's rating when they're not playing meta

[wheat jay]

Most of our wins are sub 2min

Cuz that's fun

[mild thunder]

chad hunter comps, that's why

[wheat jay]

Outplay enemy and blast them

[fickle forge]

We commit to all aggro

[mild thunder]

pressure or afk

[wheat jay]

Ye

[fickle forge]

About to tank Disarm? Just pre-parry dumbo

[mild thunder]

you play with a priest too, right?

[fickle forge]

Our healer plays whatever mood he is in that day

[mild thunder]

disarm? that's what trinket is for

[limber relic]

Hardstuck 2300. Sure. Playing "nonmetacomp"

[wheat jay]

With anything our healer plays lol

[fickle forge]

Mostly he's catweaving Rdruid

[wheat jay]

Man's got every healer

[fickle forge]

Or disc

[mild thunder]

you tanked down from that, but sure

and tsg is hardly off-meta, it's just less meta

[fickle forge]

I mean

I meeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaan

[limber relic]

Yeah i mean we went 2300>2200>2300>2200

[fickle forge]

When you were playing non-meta you were literally in the same boat

Like meta comp matters a lot

Comp strength is very real in WoW

[mild thunder]

im gonna go push cupid and pretend it's not meta

[limber relic]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-yawn-dont-care-bored-gif-14699324

[mild thunder]

how come you avoid every tough question and just pretend you're too above it to answer?

[limber relic]

Which question

[mild thunder]

.

[limber relic]

Out of the 857453 stupid ones

[mild thunder]

.

[limber relic]

I was stuck 2300 yes. Idk if it was synergy/comp or w/e

[scarlet barn]

https://tenor.com/view/fight-smile-happy-gif-12618427

[limber relic]

Didnt really work out

[mild thunder]

what "synergy" matters when you play ret/warr

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/fight-smile-happy-gif-12618427

[limber relic]

I mean 0 voice i think u have to have some synergy?

[mild thunder]

ngl i watched some of your stream, i just didnt really see any synergy/gameplan or anything. it was just tunneling a bm hunter and ignoring externals like sac, sanc etc. and barely peeling

[limber relic]

Say what u want but going 2700 mmr without voice has to have some synergy but ok🤷‍♂️

[mild thunder]

mmr

[limber relic]

2600 cr

2700 mmr

[mild thunder]

there we go

[limber relic]

We were facing 2700 rated players

[wheat jay]

That synergy is called ret/warr

[fickle forge]

TSG has to have some synergy now

It can make real plays

Ret/warr wins on uptime alone

[mild thunder]

well yea, my point is that ret/warr kinda requires absolutely zero synergy or gameplan or awareness or whatever

it is the easiest a comp can be in wow

[green wyvern]

eh tsg is not great

its decent if your dk player is really good

but still not great

they kinda fucked dk's survivability

[limber relic]

Cant argue with the 2100 elitist

[fickle forge]

Felt pretty survivable to go vs

[mild thunder]

id hardly call it a bad comp, but yea most dk's wont play it over twd

[fickle forge]

Now that DH gets wall back on dance, they'll prob run hero cleave again

[green wyvern]

dont think so

[mild thunder]

doubt they ever run it

[green wyvern]

dh has to choose between ms or dance wall

[mild thunder]

it's on a choice node with their ms

[green wyvern]

I think warr/dh might be decent in 10.2

unironically

[fickle forge]

In that case, I only have to worry about it when they run WW+DH or warr+DH I guess

It's still dumb shit

[green wyvern]

its pretty strong

15% of max hp

[fickle forge]

15% hp shield every like, what, 3rd global?

[mild thunder]

still avoiding what everyone was saying

[mild thunder]

gonna assume it doesnt stack

[green wyvern]

it doesnt but

[fickle forge]

If it refreshes I mean

[mild thunder]

it'll get nerfed 100%

[fickle forge]

It'll be unreal sustain

[mild thunder]

but yea they also just wont ever run it

[fickle forge]

If they run warr+DH

100% they'll run it

[green wyvern]

demo got giga buffed again

[fallen solar]

Tichondrius isn’t all horde anymore is it?

I see nothing but Alliance from there mostly

Actually prob in all of WoW in general

[green wyvern]

doesnt really matter

[fallen solar]

I know I’m just curious

[green wyvern]

play whatever race/faction you like

[fallen solar]

Cause I play alliance

I’ve always heard that that realm was horde dominated but I don’t think so lol

I guess everyone went alliance after the changes

[green wyvern]

it was before they made everything work cross faction

now it doesnt matter

people go female human/night elf for looks

[fallen solar]

That’s a weird flex but okay

Lol

I figured for the facials

Racials

[wheat jay]

Warr+dh tho

We can

Will probably be a meta comp again lmao

[fickle forge]

No Altair, we're KFC players

[mild thunder]

[wheat jay]

Have you seen dh changes?

Shit's busted

Turbo is other comp i could play

Cuz im probably making enh for pve

[mild thunder]

kargish wants to be a rogue main so bad

[fickle forge]

I was in my edgy teen years

Before I discovered the bulk

[wheat jay]

You still are

Forever young

Forever stupid

[fickle forge]

Don't talk till you outbench me, which is never

Know your place hunter boy

[fallen estuary]

Never smoked crack before?

All teens smoke crack

[fickle forge]

Only prot enthusiasts

[wheat jay]

I outcurl yiu

[fallen estuary]

😎

[wheat jay]

And you call yourself ARMS warrior

Weak ass bitch

[fickle forge]

I was once offered it with some people when we started a band

Was a short lived band

[fickle forge]

Do you though?

[wheat jay]

Yes

62kg curl for 2

[fickle forge]

Barbell curl?

No shot you're doing dumbbells at 62kg

And I know you were doing dumbbells last time

[wheat jay]

Ez bar, weights+bar was 62kg

That's the max I can have on it, cuz I cant fit more and don't have a lot of big plates so I was using smaller plates

Fam it was over a year ago smh

[fickle forge]

Check the date dumbo

What now huh

[wheat jay]

Did you do it?

[fickle forge]

Yes

What

Now

Hunter guy

[wheat jay]

I stand corrected then

[fickle forge]

❤️

[wheat jay]

Until I can fit more plates on my bar you win xD

[fickle forge]

This is almost 2 years ago

[wheat jay]

Why did I never know about it?

Did I miss that convo?

[fickle forge]

You even responded to it

Like 2 lines below it

[wheat jay]

Did I?

[fickle forge]

Lmao

[wheat jay]

Lmao

[fallen estuary]

Ohmahgawd that dk set

UGH i started levelin my dk

[fickle forge]

Man's a prot enthusiast

DK enthusiast

He's going down the beta route every day

[mild thunder]

next he'll say he's maining ret

[wheat jay]

Is kebab and energy drink good breakfast at 12am?

[fickle forge]

I'll bring in an expert on that subject

[fickle forge]

@elfin surge

[wheat jay]

Lmao

[elfin surge]

what kind of energy drink

[limber relic]

Dis better

😎

[elfin surge]

[mild thunder]

choccy milk >>>> energy drinks

(only if it's oak)

[wheat jay]

What

Its good

[limber relic]

Typical @mild thunder meal

[mild thunder]

arent you a britbonger?

as if you can educate people on food

[wheat jay]

Man's a brit?

Sheesh

No spice in his life

Food as bland as comps he plays

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/british-vaping-british-vape-vaping-angry-british-gif-24817613

nice teef, innit

[limber relic]

Nop im 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪

[mild thunder]

for every bicmex, there must be a seifcham

[limber relic]

https://tenor.com/view/awesome-job-mate-gif-9956404

Ok

[mild thunder]

????

[wheat jay]

Lmao

[mild thunder]

are you really tryna use Steve fucking Irwin as an insult?

literally the most beloved man in history lmao

[limber relic]

Hows that an insult

Steve is mvp

[mild thunder]

[wheat jay]

Seif why are you spreading hate and bigotry?

[mild thunder]

saved

[limber relic]

Mvp artwork

Im honored u took ur time to make this

[mild thunder]

how do i make a ticket to let blizzard know of the bigotry in their game

[limber relic]

Oh no did u take offence @mild thunder

[elfin surge]

make what

[limber relic]

Jokes aside he did copypaste it. I promise i dont dislike u people

[wheat jay]

Bro they gonna respond to it in a year

[limber relic]

😦

[wheat jay]

Can you Ask qwik to buff survi?

[mild thunder]

sorry, i forgot autists need /s to detect sarcasm

[wheat jay]

I want KFC to be meta so I can get easy glad

I dont want to Play ret

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/traffic-fbi-open-up-raid-gif-13450966

[mild thunder]

kekw

[limber relic]

Ah yes, i was about to do the same

[mild thunder]

bro's sweating bullets

[limber relic]

What would i be sweating for? 🤔

[mild thunder]

idk, why you tryna lie and say it was fake

[elfin surge]

whats wrong with homosexuals? @limber relic

let people live their lives bro

[limber relic]

I mean the screen he took is literally taken out of context?🤔

[limber relic]

Are u offended? 😦

Sorry

❤️

NO HOMO BTW

[mild thunder]

i mean

i sent it in context

[limber relic]

yeah i was about to send the same screen

[mild thunder]

i dont think that context really saves it ngl

[limber relic]

Then again u are hardstuck so i wouldnt expect u to understand

[elfin surge]

Then again u are hardstuck so i wouldnt expect u to understand

[mild thunder]

lil bro cant even stay on topic

[limber relic]

Do u rly want me to explain? Seems kinda self explanatory

[wheat jay]

Ye bro wheres 5x r1?

Fucking noob

[mild thunder]

mud is only good when he can play fury

[elfin surge]

the good days

[mild thunder]

if kargish didnt help banner rework no one would know who mud is

[limber relic]

If u see where he ssid "mages should burn"
And then i said they should burn? I didnt mean you people @mild thunder

[mild thunder]

fact

[limber relic]

Im sorry if u took offence 😦

Same w u @mud

[mild thunder]

i mean, you've still been trying to use gay as an insult lmao

[limber relic]

Accept my apology. I like you people

[mild thunder]

just own it bro

[limber relic]

How have i used it as an insult?

Pls explain

https://tenor.com/view/schitts-creek-alexis-rose-tell-me-im-listening-listening-gif-23850121

[mild thunder]

i mean, unlike you im not autistic and can read between the lines

[wheat jay]

Imagine ommiting me like this

Bruh

[limber relic]

So u could read inbetween the lines but u couldnt understand the screenshot u sent?

HmmmMMmMMmm

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[mild thunder]

stolen valor

[wheat jay]

Precisely

It was 60/40

60 me, Kargish 40

The main reasoning was pve aspect of it

And pvp was the secondary argument

[mild thunder]

doing god's work 🙏

wasnt it still shit in pve tho

[limber relic]

And since we're on topic of being bigatory, do u have any problems with people with autism? Also "retarded" derogatory term

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[mild thunder]

bigatory

[limber relic]

Bigotry*

Kekw

[mild thunder]

sorry, you appear to have misspoken. your argument is now invalid ☝️🤓

but no, i dont have an issue with autistic people or retards. i also dont have an issue with using some slurs some of the time

[limber relic]

Ok

Double standards at its finest.

[limber relic]

.

[mild thunder]

again, do you literally not understand sarcasm?

like

bruh

you're actually making the perfect argument for being autistic right now

[wheat jay]

I can use the word however I want cuz I play with one

@fickle forge

[limber relic]

U seem to not understand when someones trolling u. Poor soul 😦

[mild thunder]

supporting representation

[limber relic]

Because im very serious 😠

Arghh

[mild thunder]

you cant say "you're trolling" when you're in fact just an idiot

[limber relic]

Comming from a wnabe knowitall stuck at 2100 ill take it as a compliment

[mild thunder]

comming
wnabe

[candid citrus]

U cant reason with chad they are a d-bag plain and simple. all that goof does is sit in here and yap 24/7

[mild thunder]

damn, what did i do to hurt your feelings?

[limber relic]

[candid citrus]

lol as if

[mild thunder]

found it

[candid citrus]

you are just another chat room douche. nothing more.

[limber relic]

Its entertaining af tho. Mans in here making warrior guides as a 1900 warr playing surv

[candid citrus]

see chad the above is what im talking about. 24/7 just a d-bag.

[mild thunder]

because i said your joke wasnt funny

[candid citrus]

seriously makes me wonder what kinda life u have if at all

i dont give a damn what u think is funny.

ive seen chat rooms d-bags like you for years. people are better? you get offended and feel insecure so you troll them.

[mild thunder]

seems like it upset you pretty bad ngl

[limber relic]

Fail attempt at "trolling"

[candid citrus]

dude a no lifer like u? literally cant upset me. that is what you dont understand

anyways this is your life and it becomes u 🙂

[mild thunder]

dude all you do in here is get baited by dabdaddy

also arent you like 40 years old?

[candid citrus]

ia sked that arsehole a decent question and hes such a flamer he counldnt even respond without trolling. that is exactly what im talking about. you and a few other d-bag cool kids for this site think u own it

so stay in here for the rest of your miserable life lol

[mild thunder]

ngl dabdaddy is annoying af but you fall for the bait every time

[mild thunder]

also, you're 40 something and in discord beefing with a bunch of 20 year old zoomers... arent you the one that's spending your whole miserable life here?

[muted surge]

You guys are so cringe

[frank knoll]

Havoc DH absorb thing is a choice node with the mortal strike

Wonder if we are gonna see WW/DH Arms/DH or Fury/DH as comps

I think even Demo lock DH was a thing at one point

[elfin surge]

[limber relic]

I need some entertainment while at work

[wheat jay]

Mmmmm what about

Reeee ret/warr abuser reeeeee

[fallen estuary]

[mild thunder]

[thick reef]

Umadbro

[thick reef]

Prot War enjoyer detected

[fallen estuary]

I play prot. I wont eat ze silithids

[limber relic]

What about 2k hardstucks reeee

Lets all blame our class/comp for being hardstuck

https://tenor.com/view/gday-mate-jade-learn-english-with-jade-hello-good-day-gif-21991055

[lavish quest]

I feel attacked

[fickle forge]

🎣

[limber relic]

No pls❤️

Its ok to be whatever rating as long as you dont act like a r1

[wheat jay]

I blame Kargish

[limber relic]

Me too

[wheat jay]

Man's holding me back

If not for him id be r1

As warrior

He's forcing me to play survi

[limber relic]

Sometimes u have to dump your weight to fly higher

[wheat jay]

He's got some KFC fetish i guess

[lavish quest]

Just play ret 😉

[limber relic]

"I dont play ez classes for free glad"

🙈🙉🙊

[fickle forge]

Why does Seif keep quoting me as if I'm Galachad

Is this man a politician?

[lavish quest]

My healer bro made me heal yesterday... so I had to hop off war played hpal... without a weapon... and no clue how they work... it was awful 😂

[limber relic]

Iam.

I quoted galachad, not u tho

[fickle forge]

Man was literally talking about me

[limber relic]

No tho

I was just using a funny quote

"Im being hindered by my comp"

2023

"Or my class"

[fickle forge]

Also dumbest take, we've been over this already dude
You lift the weight till you're strong enough to go higher

[limber relic]

No just dump it. Makes u lighter.

[fickle forge]

Makes you a lil' bitch

Go grind gym glad already

[lavish quest]

Drop it like it's hot?

[limber relic]

Honestly i rly wna but i cant til my sleeve is done

"Gym is meta, so im not gna do it"

[wheat jay]

Do we want this message pinned?

The image

Would be the best pin in this channel

[fickle forge]

What happened the last time Artji

[wheat jay]

With what?

Oh

I got the channel nuked

[sharp meteor]

You tryna get us deleted mang

[wheat jay]

And Kargish got called incompetent and useless

Was very rude

[lean burrow]

onepunchman never lifted weights to get stronger

[wheat jay]

True, but still rude

[lean burrow]

[wheat jay]

Hero test tho

He's lifting

[lean burrow]

it was just for flex

[wheat jay]

A lift is a lift

Point still stands

[fickle forge]

And nothing's changed

We be gym glads now

And masterbaiters

[wheat jay]

What do you mean

We upgraded

[fickle forge]

We did yes

Just not for Skyhold

[wheat jay]

Nope

[limber relic]

"Just get glad bro"

[frank knoll]

Hot take
Lifting is for pussies who are scared of hard cardio

[fickle forge]

Average sub-75 kg bw take

[frank knoll]

What’s 185lbs in euros

I’m 5’10
Tbh I have no business being heavier than 185

[limber relic]

I dont need muscles where im from 😎

[frank knoll]

There’s a fine line between being a lifter and a roidcell

[frank knoll]

Albania?

[wheat jay]

Sike I do heavy cardio too

Your argument is invalid

Im a big fucking chonker doing heavy cardio

[limber relic]

Sweden

[frank knoll]

Walking up the stairs to your Soviet flat?

[wheat jay]

No

45min jumping rope

Not easy when you're 94kg

[fickle forge]

@wheat jay Afro would be disappointed

[wheat jay]

True

[sacred forge]

Can someone explain me about DRs in arena and bgs? How to track them? I want to know where to look to see the resistivity is increasing to CC after CC and when my CC will stand on full.

[sharp meteor]

Diminish is a good one for tracking DRs on anybody, including yourself

then whatever arena frame, like Gladius or sArena will have one for the enemy players

presumably in an attempt to avoid cluttering the default UI they never got around to implementing their own DR tracker

[limber relic]

who dat

[limber relic]

i use diminishing and i have it fixed to the nameplate. really useful

[violet fossil]

what’s the chance he had healers not using it lol

[lavish quest]

I mean... I'm still trying to figure out why healers use buttons when against me but not with me. Always letting my hunter or whatever off dps paired with me just fall over all the time 🤔

Or barrier after their 30 second bursts are over

Stuff boggles my poor little woyer mind

[wheat jay]

GET MY SHEEEEEEP

[tribal wedge]

i heard these words

[wheat jay]

Famous words of Joe "Fernandes" Fernandes

[lavish quest]

Get my nova damnit

[violet fossil]

lol

[sacred forge]

@limber relic you meant this addon right?
If yes, then how does they work, my stun and paladins stun interfere with each other or no? every spell or every person has it's own DR CD?

[limber relic]

no

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, your storm bolt onto a target means that a hammer of justice will be half duration if used while on dr.

[sacred forge]

And other type of DR also interfere? or lets say stun 3 sec and disarm 5 secs will be at full power? Or DR system is going overall on all CCs?

[lavish quest]

Stuns and disarms to not share DRs.
But some cc's do. Like cyclone shares DR with fears for example

You'll learn which DR with which overtime as you play

[sacred forge]

Oh good to know! Is there any article in the internet about it, because I've never seen any tbh.
P.S. Thank you guys for all the help and knowledge

Also which enemy buffs and cd do you track as auras and what you do against it, is there any cheatsheet for that ?

[lavish quest]

You can probably Google it I'm sure there's something. But tbh you'll just pick up on it and memorize as you play and pay attention to DRs

Just make sure you have an arena addon that tracks it cause blizz by default does nothing to tell you about it

[lavish quest]

Personal preference. Different players track different things

[sacred forge]

The problem is, I'm losing my focus while doing PvP, so many times i dont even aware what's happening, so i wanted to set everything first and then just follow the plan i had.

[lavish quest]

You might be able to find someone's omnibar import but that's about it

Just play and focus on improving at one thing at a time

Eventually it won't take as much focus and you can auto pilot it. Then you focus on the next improvement

No going from 0 to 100. And if you try, you'll just be overloaded

[limber relic]

@sacred forge https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/diminish this one. and i have it set only on "nameplates"

[sacred forge]

I'm totally agree with you, I just want my every try to be more efficient in terms of knowledge gain.
And many pvp streamers not explaining tht much what to do, why to do and when to do, they just play, but you can't get into their head.
LIke i have big problems against rogues always, they lock you and then they are immune, so I'm end up in bad situation, and then when they are immune again, they fade away and run. And repeating dying again and again to certain comps just don't helps. on top of that, I'm having trouble finding a constant player that would like to play and progress.

[limber relic]

@sacred forge

this is what it looks like for me and how i track DRs

[lavish quest]

If you put everything on your screen at once it'll visually overload you and not help anyways.
Other than that, just gotta run your face into X class a while to learn what to do. And when you get stumped and got specific questions you can ask em here and we can try and help ya out with suggestions/ideas that maybe you hadn't considered.

[fallen estuary]

Guys whats a good addon that screams fucking bloody murder when someone uses a cd

I have like 0 addons

[limber relic]

Gladiatorlossa @fallen estuary

[fallen estuary]

Is that a addon thatll force cancer tumors to grow in ny ears?

[lavish quest]

There are a couple streamers good for asking questions, but I'd try to keep it specific and maybe not spam questions at em. But say Laros or Magnus are good for it

@sacred forge

[fallen estuary]

I want something loud

[limber relic]

XD

its an addon that tells u everything thats happening

like cds/casts ect

i love it but some dont

[fallen estuary]

Ok cool. Ill download it when i get home

Im in the middle of traffic

[limber relic]

dont crash

[fallen estuary]

Its opposite day

Watch the news

[lavish quest]

⬅️ Sucks but plays with music not gladiatorlosa

[limber relic]

i do too cuz of stream but

i have it on low

[wheat jay]

You play with lossa?

If I ever meet you in shuffle I'll tell my healer to spam cancelcast cyclone xD

[limber relic]

I have throttle on tho

[wheat jay]

Still wack

[limber relic]

Naw

[wheat jay]

Bruh

Gladiatorlossa

Man's playing ret/warr and he's got gladiatorlossa

Waiting for the moment you say you had a pilot too xD

[atomic orchid]

Used Lossa once during BFA S3 without editing it, hearing chaos bolt screamed at me repeatedly was not fun.

[spice hornet]

i really feel like MM was overbuffed

[wheat jay]

Mm not even good in arena lol

[spice hornet]

we just gonna ignore mm cupid and mm destro being s tier comps?

[wheat jay]

Yes.

[fallen estuary]

Mm is insanely busted

And destro needs to be slammed dunked into the trash bin

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-lebron-los-angeles-lakers-lakers-dunk-gif-16216227

[wheat jay]

Warr shit's on destro tho

[green wyvern]

does wrecking throw still obliterate dark pact?

[wheat jay]

Yes

Not as much as it used to

But yes

[scarlet barn]

@wheat jay is best polish pvper you can find

[fickle forge]

Swedish glad warr who benches 180 kg

[lavish quest]

Need moar slam buffs

[elfin surge]

need hamstring damage buffs

[lavish quest]

I feel that chasing rdrus in 2s. Just about the only damage I get on them rubbing their asses on pillars

[unique fox]

mortal strike should automatically apply hamstring

[lavish quest]

Would be nice. Guess will just have to settle for rogues having a passive slow whenever they look at an enemy that's also 20% better than ours when we have to use globals and resources

[unique fox]

dont forget giga melee range even though theyre holding little fuckin needles in their hands

[lavish quest]

Doesn't matter. They can throw weapon which applies the slow 😂

Or is that only ass rogue?

[fallen estuary]

Tfw hamstring gets more uses than slam lmfao buff hamstring by 1000%

[magic wing]

Rogues are DYEL cucks

And when they go to gym they record it for Tik Tok

[frank knoll]

Slam is a totem/shadow fiend killer for me

But ya just gonna spam hamstring and rend farm tactician procs in 10.2 since IP doesn’t work for it anymore

[limber relic]

Ok mr 1900

Calm yourself

[limber relic]

Hamstring on totem > slam

[fair cradle]

guys

i need a teacher 😄

[limber relic]

@wheat jay or @mild thunder can help u. Both no more than 2k peak rated warriors that rerolled hunter cuz warr 2 ez but stil stuck 2k

[fair cradle]

ahhahaa

nice

[wheat jay]

Bitch I was glad, and top 0.4%

You just ride your ret's dick

[limber relic]

When

[wheat jay]

Top 0.4% sl s3 mid season

[limber relic]

[wheat jay]

Glad s2

Meanwhile you rolled from your previous comp cuz you were hardstuck 2.1k

[elfin surge]

🤓☝️

[limber relic]

"SeAsOn 2 sL gLAd"

[wheat jay]

Where r1

[elfin surge]

where bitches?

[wheat jay]

Mud you're washed

[limber relic]

0.4 mid season 😂

Mid

Season

[elfin surge]

prove it

[limber relic]

As if its any relevant

[wheat jay]

Sitting next to your r1

[wheat jay]

As relevant as your barking

[limber relic]

I was r5 begining of df s2. I must be mvp

[wheat jay]

Bruh

You're linking my warr

[limber relic]

"Clown town"

[wheat jay]

When i get 1800 and shelf it

[limber relic]

I thought we were in warrior discord

[wheat jay]

Better to be in a clown town than being one like you

[limber relic]

🤔

Ooo burned 😦

[wheat jay]

Sike not everyone plays warr here

Who could have thought xD

[unique fox]

if you aint war you aint shit

[limber relic]

Better?

[wheat jay]

It is what it is i guess

Much better

[limber relic]

Im higher cr than ur peak s2 sl

[wheat jay]

Yep

I didnt pay for mine tho

So i guess that's a win for me

[limber relic]

Someone finally used the "payed" card

👏👏👏

Gameover

[wheat jay]

But hey, grats to you, not easy to farm gold in DF

[limber relic]

[wheat jay]

[limber relic]

Thank u. This was funny af

[wheat jay]

Glad you had fun

Pun intended

[limber relic]

[limber relic]

🤓☝️

[wheat jay]

[limber relic]

Top 0.4%....from the bottom

[wheat jay]

fam

cham

you swapped comps cuz you were hardstuck

.

[limber relic]

Yeah and cuz they were bad, saying shit like shockwave is bad in tsg and that we should chast/aphyx/sb all 3 targets

And to play defensive as tsg

[wheat jay]

bruh they were smoking crack

that's for sure

xD

[limber relic]

Pretty much

[fickle forge]

So are you you fucking bitch

[green wyvern]

playing defensive as tsg

[mild thunder]

Is this retard still bragging about playing ret/warr

Lil bro, your comp is free

Everyone knows you can’t play a real comp and that’s why you dodged every offer under the sun

I’m sure you’ll come back when warrior is S tier again and you can ride another free wave to glad

[delicate parrot]

[unique fox]

Why's everyone got to talk shit about comps being free or not real

Why would you play anything but the most OP bullshit imaginable lol?

[delicate parrot]

because you’re a better player if you don’t play the op shit

/s

[unique fox]

Who cares

[delicate parrot]

no I agree with you

[unique fox]

I know I just see these apes having this conversation everyday

[delicate parrot]

meta is meta for a reason

I think they’re irl friends or something just talking shit

[wheat jay]

don't care about meta and playing it, i care about him barking on me and not acknowledging it 😄

wouldn't say anything if he didn't bark

[unique fox]

Word

[mild thunder]

Real

I never started any of the bitching, but literally anytime I say anything this ape cries like a bitch

[unique fox]

What's the most gimped comp you could play as war for the most glad cred?

[mild thunder]

Lumberjack cleave

[delicate parrot]

[mild thunder]

The ultimate chad comp

[wheat jay]

tbh i always respect warr+caster

like warr+mage

takes a lot of skill from mage

good peeling from warr

if played poorly its dogshit

if played well you can outplay a lot

[mild thunder]

All mage comps are like that, pretty much

[delicate parrot]

it fucks at 1500

[unique fox]

i liked SP the most for casters but i dont think its good right now

[wheat jay]

its still decent, not meta

[mild thunder]

Jungle of course

The most chad of chad comps

[wheat jay]

Never really liked jungle

Hunter's work is trap

[lavish quest]

To play war/mage, you'd have to associate with scum. Pass

[wheat jay]

And damage

Done

I personally like KFC

[mild thunder]

Bro I can barely do this much 😭

[wheat jay]

Basically I like all comps that require warr to think about what theyre doing

[mild thunder]

But yeah it’s a pressure comp, if you take your foot off the gas you lose

Ok what do you think about in kfc that you wouldn’t in jungle

[wheat jay]

I dont have a feral keeping me alive

At all times

[mild thunder]

Cap

[wheat jay]

Jungle is 90% druid

[mild thunder]

Warrior does a far better job keeping allies alive than a feral

[wheat jay]

KFC is 50/50

My opinion on this is a bit subjective tho

[mild thunder]

Maybe when you play it kekw

I mean, it’s not subjective

It’s wrong

[wheat jay]

Fam you do damage and trap

That's Hunters job in every trap

[mild thunder]

If you’re playing a comp and you’re letting someone else do 90% of the work, you’re trolling

[wheat jay]

KFC doesnt have off heals

[mild thunder]

Feral doesn’t have off heals either lmao

[unique fox]

jungle seems superior to kfc in every way

[wheat jay]

Druid is the playmaker, the peeler, the offhealer

[wheat jay]

Because it is

[fickle forge]

We'll never know cause we don't play it

[mild thunder]

Feral doesn’t even peel, it gets tunneled into the ground

[wheat jay]

We did two days ago

And got 150 cr

[fickle forge]

Stfu

[mild thunder]

Both comps are supremely ass ngl

[unique fox]

the few times i've played KFC it definitely felt atrocious

though i never played with resto druid

[wheat jay]

Why atrocious xD

[unique fox]

I think the hunters were just bad but it felt awful chasing him around the map while he gets tunneled

[wheat jay]

Well I play KFC like a retard

Namely I chase most of the time

Not kite

[fickle forge]

We could have played it TODAY

If you showed up at the time you arranged

[wheat jay]

Iirc I arranged yesterday

I said I end work and i can be home at like 21:40

[fickle forge]

Man's out here working 13 hours, comes home thinking we're gonna play, and then his homie cancels 12 mins after he was supposed to be there

[wheat jay]

I booted up my pc at 22

[fickle forge]

If this shit ain't a confirmation

Idk wtf it is

[wheat jay]

Read farther

[fickle forge]

The only thing I see farther is "I already made plans with some other homies anyway"

Fucking bitch man

[wheat jay]

Ye which I said when?

Fucking today

I sent that before I even left work

[fickle forge]

12 min after man was supposed to be there for 3s

[wheat jay]

We'd play for like 30min

And id be gone

[fickle forge]

Artji perma dodging his main homie

[wheat jay]

BITCH

You dodged yesterday

[fickle forge]

Nein

I canceled like 6 hours in advance

[wheat jay]

Anyway, sorry

We can play soon

[fickle forge]

My heart and soul

Destroyed

[wheat jay]

I promise Habibi

[fickle forge]

Pulverized

Not even the gym can fix this betrayal

[delicate parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-spongebob-doctor-revive-defibrillator-gif-5304585453076024179

[fallen solar]

I like to use big words around people just to make myself seem more photosynthesis.

[delicate parrot]

bro making his rounds

[fallen solar]

I gotta spread the dad jokes everywhere!

Why did the crab cross the road?

It didn’t. It used the sidewalk

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/palla-deserto-desert-hot-gif-6014273

[fallen solar]

I just crashed my new Kia. Now I have Nokia.

[royal marten]

got a question warrior fam, did something happen with the cancelaura bladestorm macro?

mine just stopped working, re did it, still wont work

[lavish quest]

You talented hurricane that's what happened

[royal marten]

ah ok

thank you sir

o7

[lavish quest]

Np. It's blizzard's way of pushing us for trying to use the one talent on the warrior trees that's not nerfed in pvp because how dare we.

[fickle forge]

Hurricane is nerfed in PvP

: )

[lavish quest]

Punishing*

Wait it is?

[fickle forge]

50% nerfed

[lavish quest]

God damnit LMAO

Is nothing sacred?

[fickle forge]

: )

[mild thunder]

Hurricane will be cancellable when I get flayed shot

Not a moment sooner

[lavish quest]

Having the occasional pvp adjustment here and there is okay. But if everything is nerfed in pvp on a talent tree, a little excessive I think. Need to the same level of studying as you do for finals to keep track of pvp nerfs to warrior -.-

[mild thunder]

Give survival flayed shot, wyvern sting and wildfire cluster Ty and good night

[lavish quest]

Wrong discord

[mild thunder]

Everything is nerfed on the warrior tree because it was all overpowered lmao

It’s excessive if it’s unnecessary. It was not unnecessary

[lavish quest]

If it were overpowered, arms would be overpowered in pve. But theyre not 🤔

[mild thunder]

???

What on earth do those two things have to do with each other

[lavish quest]

Same talents

[mild thunder]

In two wildly different environments that require wildly different skill-sets, damage profiles and whatever the fuck else

That’s actually

Genuinely

The dumbest statement I’ve ever read

[lavish quest]

So does every other spec in the game have the same problem?

[mild thunder]

Plenty of specs do, yea

Do you think arms is the only spec in the game with heavy PvP tuning on its tree?

[lavish quest]

As heavy probably lol

[mild thunder]

Cooked

Go play ret, ww, sub rogue or something lmao

[lavish quest]

Is every survival talent tuned down pvp? Like all of them?

[mild thunder]

I honestly don’t know, don’t care

You have zero flexibility in our tree anyway

I change 1-2 talents every 50 games and that’s completely preference

Sv uses 1 build for almost every piece of content in the game

[lavish quest]

Lovely

[wheat jay]

Barely any afaik

Didnt need to be tuned up or down tho

Whole spec tree is like "+5% dmg to Serpent Sting"

Or mongoose bite xD

[mild thunder]

What talents could we even swap if shit was nerfed lmao

Start running carve in arenas kekw

[wheat jay]

Well we're gonna go fote soon

For oneshot burst

[lavish quest]

Exactly. So somehow it's damage translates between the two fine.
So they probably should make the war percents smaller in the tree and baseline harder to even out.
Just because a bandage is needed to fix a problem, doesn't mean there's not a problem. All my point is lmao

[mild thunder]

Don’t remind me

[lavish quest]

But seems hard to grasp for some reason

[mild thunder]

But survival is a bottom tier dps in raid lmao

[wheat jay]

Its higher in tree for pve

[mild thunder]

So no, it isn’t perfectly balanced

[wheat jay]

Lower in pvp cuz it would oneshot

[mild thunder]

And the survival tree is very, very, very far from a benchmark of good design

[lavish quest]

Working as intended.

[mild thunder]

But I guess if it’s bad in raid it must be bad in PvP

Unnerf all the pvp mods on ww tree

Unnerf all the ret mods

Unnerf sub

[lavish quest]

So because everyone has problems no one has problems?

When did logic go out the window? lol

[mild thunder]

No, I’m responding to your point that PvP tuning and pve tuning can be remotely comparable

It’s absurd

The warrior tree being tuned for pvp means literally nothing besides warrior was strong in pvp

As evidenced by the fact that it’s still a top dps despite all those nerfs

[fickle forge]

When will arms get outta D-tier smh

[lavish quest]

That literally just means there's tuning problems and they put bandaids to fix it. The lack of listening is real.

[mild thunder]

It’s not a Band-Aid if it fixed the problem lmao

Trees are never going to be perfectly balanced for pve and PvP at the same time without specific PvP mods

[wheat jay]

Not a bandaid fix

An actual fix that people have been asking for

[fickle forge]

They nerfed all warr talents cause it's fine to slap a 400k MS in PvE, but in PvP we care about bursty damage profiles

[wheat jay]

Separate tuning for pve and pvp

[lavish quest]

Yes, there will need to be pvp mods, but if they get to a certain point where they are excessive, then... it's obviously done wrong. Especially since the game doesn't tell you well if at all about the tunings actually in game

You have to follow the game like a job to catch it all.

[mild thunder]

But that’s not evidence it’s done wrong

At all

Not even remotely

[lavish quest]

Like it's just made poorly. How is it hard to grasp?

[wheat jay]

If the mods were different you'd be hitting 600k mortals

[mild thunder]

If you wanted to claim that there’s poor communication about pvp modding, that’s fair

But that’s not what you said

[fickle forge]

To get to your dream, they'd have to tune damage around PvP first, and then scale PvE numbers from that

[mild thunder]

And why would they ever do that when we’re 0.1% if the playerbase lmao

[lavish quest]

The 0.1% don't have a problem with how it is now. It's not an issue for us

You have it the other way around lmao

[mild thunder]

You’re actually making no sense

So you don’t have a problem with the current tree?

[lavish quest]

.... 🤦‍♂️

[wheat jay]

Problem is that 0.1% still makes up more than 100% of pvp players xD

[mild thunder]

Maybe I’m having a fucking stroke but you’re speaking gibberish at this point

[wheat jay]

Less popular mode gets modifiers

[lavish quest]

But maybe reasons like this is why? Damn it would be a horrible idea to try to make it better other people. I see how I was dumb

LMAO

[mild thunder]

Yea that’s just not the reason pvp is smaller lmao

[lavish quest]

Never said it was just the reason

"like this"

🤦‍♂️

[mild thunder]

PvP is smaller because people don’t play mmos to pvp

They play pvp games

[wheat jay]

How would you fix tuning without modifiers in any way without breaking it for either pvp or pve

[lavish quest]

Lower total modifier count. The fact that pressing one button follows a chain of 17 modifiers might have something to do with it

[mild thunder]

Doesn’t really fix the issue, just means pve numbers will always have to be based around PvP

Also removes a lot of the fun and a lot of the impact of rotational importance for pve

[lavish quest]

I mean.... if you just look at as making the numbers work period... and then designing pvp and pve around those numbers...?

[mild thunder]

Lining up 20 mods might be cringe for pvp but it’s fun as fuck in pve

And that’s just an unfortunate fact

[lavish quest]

3 of the modifiers are lined up, the other 16 are just passive no thought about ones

[mild thunder]

And saying “just make the numbers work” doesn’t really mean anything

[lavish quest]

🤦‍♂️

Explaining a concept, not giving a laid out plan...

[wheat jay]

So you just buff mortal and remove modifiers?

[lavish quest]

Yup, starting to get somewhere. At least reduce the modifiers and make them smaller

[wheat jay]

Now you either suck in pve and do zero dps or oneshot people in arena with overtuned mortal

[mild thunder]

Just make the numbers work bro

It’s easy

[lavish quest]

Or... tune pve hp pools down?

[wheat jay]

Current modifiers make it so arms is good in pve

[lavish quest]

So much short sightedness

[mild thunder]

So player health would have to be scaled down in comparison, or youre lowering the difficulty/TTK in pve

[wheat jay]

So re-tune every spec every patch for every boss' new hp pool, or nerf modifiers for a talent in pvp combat

Nerfing modifier for pvp is easier

Thus, less time consuming

Thus more efficient

Thus better

Its all about time and efficiency

[lavish quest]

🤦‍♂️ Ah well. Keeps things made poorly for the fact that if we didn't, it wouldn't work with how they're poorly made right now.

[wheat jay]

Precisely

[lavish quest]

And yes it would take a lot of work to dig themselves out, because they dug themselves into this over the years lol

[mild thunder]

Poorly made because you have to ask a discord about a PvP mod

[wheat jay]

Its not digging themselves

They have to balance two game modes

[mild thunder]

Literally all you had to say was “blizz should communicate pvp nodding better”

And that would be a fair and valid statement

[wheat jay]

They can't balance it at the same time

Its impossible

Without putting in more work than it is worth

[mild thunder]

Trees are also brand new lol

Idk how this goes years back

[wheat jay]

It costs money to spend time on balancing

Its better to spend that money on design

[lavish quest]

How'd they get by without doing it before...? And ever notice that it's been needed more and more and in increasing amounts as time goes on? Ever think how that happens?

[royal marten]

i feel this 100 percent

[mild thunder]

There were plenty of PvP mods through SL

As much as there is now

[lavish quest]

Yes, I know it would be way too much work to do nowadays and that it will never work. But doesn't mean its made well lol

[wheat jay]

Surpsise, theybe been doing it for years now

[mild thunder]

and yes, power-creep is a problem of which blizzard is aware and has mentioned that these trees are their proposed tool of combatting it

[wheat jay]

It is made as well as they can without breaking the game or hindering their content development

It allows them to balance each spec without changing their pve balancing

Its literally the best way to do it

Its also there to stop oneshots, cuz they could have just nerfed ms dmg by itself

And leave modifiers

But that would lead to one big ms every like 10-15s

Which they decided would have been worse

[lavish quest]

Yes it is the best way for them to handle with where they put things now. I'm not disputing that

[wheat jay]

They can't do it any other way and keep it as time and money efficient as it is now

[lavish quest]

I'm not proposing a change, I'm just pointing out that its poorly made. Which it is.

[mild thunder]

You were proposing a change…?

You were saying they should change it?

[wheat jay]

Its made to work, and it does

[lavish quest]

Do you actually read?

[mild thunder]

Yep

[wheat jay]

Can't change it, and its the best way to do it they have ever tried

Df pvp is mostly very well balanced

Fewer outliers than shadowlands and bfa

[mild thunder]

What actual problem is there beyond a lack of clear communication (

?*

[wheat jay]

And they can have pve balanced as well

At least until augmentation arrived lol

[mild thunder]

[wheat jay]

That shit broke pve

Anyway im out

Gnight y'all

[mild thunder]

to be fair, i will say that a major-ish issue of the new trees is mobility and cc creep... makes pvp even more inaccessible than it already was for newer players

[eager lake]

how do we (arms) play against frost mages in 2s?

feels impossible

that fucking maldraxxus map is fucking huge

[spice hornet]

wnhy is upheav still hitting 250k?

like what?

\

[mild thunder]

@wheat jay is feign bugged for you?

im taking full splashback damage on dispels

took 280k damage from a UA

[spice hornet]

yes

this happened to day healing a shuff

unter pressed feign and took a 350k UA to the dome

[mild thunder]

similar bug with angel and flame shock

[limber relic]

Why am i seeing @mild thunder in an argument every time i join this discord

[mighty trellis]

mop pserver warr LF someone to show me the ropes in retail so this 60ish bucks i spent doesnt go to waste 🙂

I will teach u mop when it comes 🙂

[mild thunder]

Because you’re obsessed?

[limber relic]

@mild thunder can help u. No more than 2k peak rated warriors that rerolled hunter cuz warr 2 ez but stil stuck 2k as hunter

[mild thunder]

Lil bro you are actually obsessed

[limber relic]

Jokes aside just ask whatever and i (or someonr else) will try and help

[mild thunder]

You find a way to bring me up every time you talk

[mighty trellis]

@limber relic i just want to know my rotation and target prios preferrably 😄

[limber relic]

Ez bait

[mighty trellis]

I am also using magnus's build but finding it kinda overwhelming trying to change my talents before the game starts depending on what im fighting

[mild thunder]

It’s not bait when you actually have no personality outside of your obsession with me

[mighty trellis]

seeing as this is the mop talent tree xD

[mild thunder]

I already tried to bury the hatchet, you’re the freak that can’t get over shit

All because I told you a stat prio once

[limber relic]

Well my burst rotation when using hurricane and blademasters torment 99% goes like:
OP x2>roar>rend>colossus/warbreaker>avatar>sweeping>sharpen>ms

[mighty trellis]

i thought u have to roar after colossus?

[limber relic]

I mean we did but u brought it all back

[mighty trellis]

guys focus on me

[mild thunder]

That is some impressive rewriting of history lil bro

Literally all you do in here is bring me up every chance you get

[limber relic]

I mean u could do that, i alwkays try to use avatar straight after warbrraker so thst i can start doing dmg as soon as possible after bladestorm ends, also people usually knows thag after wb comes burst, so they will try to cc u straight away. With WB>ava u bs instantly and they wont have time to react

[mighty trellis]

true true

good point from my pov

does sharpen + ms spread to both targets when u ahve sweeping?

does ms spread to both targ with sweeping?

[limber relic]

Yes

[mighty trellis]

interesting

do u keep cancelaura sweeping on ur bars incase of cc?

or cba?

[limber relic]

Also if you OP 2x and then hurricane bs, u will guarantee 120k ms x2

[mighty trellis]

oh shit i forgot bs does ms

[limber relic]

No

Not if u dont have unhinged

[mighty trellis]

wtf is unhinged

wait i have a better question

sayi m fighting a mage right

and i want shatt throw

when i try to remove leeching and shit

it undoes my whole talent tree

what do i do about that

i cant remember lal the right talents i have 3 days on df

[limber relic]

AoE build
BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWCJRCJJpVKJBAAAAEEJCkEUERBJCJhiEBhAEJAAAAAAAAkkWCCIENEA

Single build
BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWCJRCJJpUKJBAAAAEEJiGJBERhSiQSoIRQIARCAAAAAAAAJpkgAC0QA

Single against double casters or if youre playing with a caster against caster+melee

If u need wrecking/shatter in the AoE build, remove your point in shockwave, put it into wreck/shatter, remove 1 talent from furious blows, move it into shockwave. @mighty trellis

[mighty trellis]

@limber relic do i need to kill healing stream vs rsham in this xpac?

[limber relic]

Its always good but not like u nedd to run across map just to kill it. If its near u may aswell

[mighty trellis]

ok cuz in mop u run across map for it xd

[mighty trellis]

thank you very much btw for the tips

[unique fox]

Cant wait to do a blood elf blademaster mog

[ruby temple]

Shoot if that necklace goes live looking like it does for female characters I may be making a blood elf blade master too

[mild thunder]

I hope they’re chest-pieces tbh

[limber relic]

Np. Glad to help

[mild thunder]

Otherwise you can’t use them with shado-pan helmets, which are already perfect

[limber relic]

@mild thunder

Sadly i didnt get the weapon when it was available

[mild thunder]

Based

Weapon overrated af anyway, both the snake-shaped mop sword and blade of Hanna are cooler imo

[limber relic]

Will be released after 10.2 tho

[mild thunder]

Probs November trading post

I just want more mounts

[unique fox]

Played pres/aug/arms tonight, shit is so easy lmao

[unique fox]

There's also Lantresors Warblade polearm mog

[limber relic]

Looks nice. Just old model i guess

Blade of hanna looks pog

[unique fox]

yeah from tbc but its legit blademaster weap

a bit dinky though

[green wyvern]

s3 elite sword looks cool

make spear great again

[scarlet flame]

whats elite sword look like @green wyvern

[green wyvern]

red colored version of the 2h raid sword