pvp

[mild thunder]

Yea this’ll be the play most of the time

But it is nice to be able to feign roots and some cc and whatever

[wheat jay]

Disengage

Most dmg being ranged

Mongoose bite possibly losing dmg in favour of fote crit chance

So you won't really feel it

Gonna have to use disengage better tho

Not to chase all the time

[mild thunder]

Tbh I’m thinking we might not end up taking the capstone for FotE and just cancel it after the global to continue spamming other stuff

It’s just better dmg to spam mongoose bite after you get the damage amp

[fickle forge]

Just wait and see what the mex is gonna do

[mild thunder]

Bicmex

[wheat jay]

Probably

I dunno, it might be worth it

[fickle forge]

Would mean you sac AoE KS for FotE

[wheat jay]

Channel itself is atm like 12-15k per tick

[fickle forge]

Pretty good trade

[wheat jay]

Aoe killshot is mostly pad dmg

Good into melee cleaves that's all

[fickle forge]

Which FotE is gonna be anyway

[mild thunder]

Aoe KS is nice but it’s not make or break… I wouldn’t wanna drop 10% MB damage for FotE crits

[fickle forge]

SP getting slightly more survivable vs me

[wheat jay]

You dont rly mongoose a lot

And other buttons gain more value

So it might be a net positive to have more burst

[mild thunder]

If I’m in melee I press mongoose a lot

[wheat jay]

Same

But i dont think its gonna be a make or break

Especially since you're usually melee when enemy heal is in cc

And you want to be bursting then

[mild thunder]

Even in a short burst window mongoose does more than FotE, so I just don’t see the value of taking the crit capstone

[wheat jay]

Crit

Its gonna do basically same dmg as mongoose spam

But with bomb thrown

And if you get someone into killshot range its instant killshot not a global delay

Gonna have to see how it works in practice, but I see it being good

[mild thunder]

Even if it’s critting it does slightly less and it overcaps your bombs which is cringe…

I might be wrong, but I’d imagine we’re better off canceling FotE as soon as the global is over and just pressing other stuff like MB, flanking, bombs etc

[wheat jay]

We'll see

[mild thunder]

Yea I could be wrong

[wheat jay]

Its doing good dmg overall

I used to play it in S1 and s2 after it was buffed

[mild thunder]

It is super lame that FotE overcaps our bombs but is what it is

[fickle forge]

Watch the mex

[wheat jay]

Shut up

We will

[mild thunder]

Our holy prophet

[wheat jay]

The messaiah

[fickle forge]

Dance puppet

[wheat jay]

Lmao

[fickle forge]

You follow the mex
I follow whatever the fuck I cooked together that day

We are not the same

[wheat jay]

Bro your food shit

[fickle forge]

My food be hitting these 200k ms and getting you elo

[fickle forge]

Stfu beta hunter

[wheat jay]

Bro you can't even run

You walk towards enemy

Slowly

Better thank my pet JebaćMonków for freedoms

Translates to FuckMonks btw

[mild thunder]

You’d follow the Mex too if he played warrior

[wheat jay]

He follows him now too

[fickle forge]

Nein, I am a Spear enthusiast till my death

[mild thunder]

Bicmex would play bleed build if he was an arms main

[fickle forge]

I hit TR into shit where Spear literally doesn't make sense only

Like DK

[mild thunder]

Spear doesn’t make sense in like 90% of matchups kekw

[wheat jay]

Man you were born to play kfc

I play with spear

[fickle forge]

Spear only makes sense into mages tbh

[wheat jay]

You play with spear

Year of the spear

[fickle forge]

Year of the spear

Valk mains

[wheat jay]

Btw @mild thunder did you notice my mog on hunt?

Hehehe

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/valkyrie-for-honor-i-dont-speak-japanese-japanese-gif-21708172

[mild thunder]

Nope, show

[wheat jay]

Fam clip

I'm sure you can see it there hehe

[mild thunder]

Wait are you using the darkmoon set

[wheat jay]

Yes

Full clown

And check my guild too

Hahahaha

[mild thunder]

Some people just weren’t born to mog

[wheat jay]

IT ALL COMES TOGETHER HAHAHAHA

[mild thunder]

Clown town 🤡

[wheat jay]

Clowntown boutta get CE too

[fickle forge]

Why can't Artji hit a 165k ES every game

[wheat jay]

Cuz I have like 12% crit chance

[frank knoll]

For my offhand, haste 450 pole arm or mastery 447 world PvP pole arm?

[mild thunder]

Crit I’m gonna full mastery stack for big explosives

Fuck bomb dmg

[wheat jay]

Nah

Gotta combine everything

Thus haste superior

Was thinking of going crit even for big oneshot burst xD

[mild thunder]

Our mastery is such a meme lol

[wheat jay]

It is

No idea how to rework it tho xD

[fickle forge]

If crit isn't your biggest sustained dmg increase, then don't bother

Kinda miss crit arms, but it's just ass even with crit dmg talents

[wheat jay]

Yep

[mild thunder]

Mastery: The Wild Hunt
Every time you damage an enemy, your pet strikes them again for (x%) Bleed damage over 6 seconds.
You and your pet both regenerate (x%) health every 5 seconds.

[wheat jay]

Imo wack

[mild thunder]

bam

reworked

easy af

[wheat jay]

Increased melee range

Full mastery 100 yards killshot

[mild thunder]

giga stack mastery for 30yd mongoose bites

[wheat jay]

100 yards bomb

70 yards mongoose bite

[mild thunder]

150yd coordinated assault

[wheat jay]

200 yards spearhead

@fickle forge btw just want you to know that if dh gets new spec im Rolling it

100%

[mild thunder]

this would be a chill af masterymtho no cap

[wheat jay]

And you're gonna play with it

We're gonna get me 1800 dh set too btw

Yep yep

[mild thunder]

yep yep

[fickle forge]

It won't

[wheat jay]

It might

Just want you to be ready

And for that im gonna need all the mogs for it

Including elite

All the colors of the fire mog xD

[lavish quest]

I mean... elite is the only fomo one so get that and you're golden 🙃

[wheat jay]

Nah mythic is purple fam

Gotta get them all

[spice hornet]

i see these two wonderfully named characters fdsfdsfdsfsfds are preparing to do a glad wins cheese here shortly!

[delicate parrot]

what in tarnation is going on there

[spice hornet]

Dropping mmr on their booster chars to like 1100 with a fresh char

They’ll fight teams at like 1700 with the buyer at 2400

[delicate parrot]

that’s disgusting

[frank knoll]

Idk fury damage seems kinda mid

Maybe I’m playing the wrong build

[sharp meteor]

So glad wins are just being elite for one person, and can be done at any mmr

you basically just insta leave 20 games in a row to 1500 mmr on the booster chars

and farm out glad wins at 1400-1800 mmr

depending on how patient you are

[unique fox]

Done with this dumbass bracket for another season

[sharp meteor]

Grats on the sicko enchant.

[unique fox]

Tyty, now i gotta convince my 3rd bro to come back for a 3s push

[mild thunder]

dont be giving me ideas

[limber relic]

Shits has been used for years and it took them 24h to fix it

Btw, 10.2 warr will go all in haste i assume?
More haste = more rend ticks = more chances to get sudden death (2set)

[mild thunder]

kinda hard to say, arms is almost definitely going to see 1-2 more big changes for 10.2

idk how many times i have to say it, but adding slam to storm of swords is the easiest, quickest change they can make to address arms' rage issues

unironically nerfing battlelord to not reduce the ms rage cost would help heaps too

or let battlelord mortal strikes and sudden death exe's contribute to AM and ToM, but that's the boring change

[limber relic]

Not rly 😒

[limber relic]

"Make ms more expensive" wouldnt do any good whatsoever

[mild thunder]

It absolutely would

Rage is an invisible resource and you’re terminally rage-capped

Giving you a way to spend that excess rage without screwing up your rotation would help you keep mechanics like AM and tactician sufficiently fuelled

All arms has gotten in dragonflight is more ways to generate rage and less ways to spend it

[muted surge]

We got tc. Huge way to spend rage!

[mild thunder]

as of right now the 4pc is bugged to put TC on cooldown, so no you dont have it.
even assuming that gets fixed, the rage issues persist. it was already an issue before and the nerfs to ignore pain exacerbate it

[fallen solar]

So mastery is the way to go on arms right?

[limber relic]

Rn its about 50/50 but i think in s3 it will be haste

[fallen solar]

Well I’m at 26% haste and 25% mastery in combat right now

[limber relic]

% is kinda missleading tbh

How much in numbers?

[fallen solar]

Haste is 4020 and mastery is 2348

[limber relic]

Im at 3600 haste, 3000 mastery and like 5200 vers. Not 100% on vers tho

In pvp ofc

I dont like having that low mastery, u can feel the diff in dmg

[fallen solar]

Yeah I need more mastery I think lol

[limber relic]

And less vers it seems

[fallen solar]

Yep

I’m at 32%

[limber relic]

Dont think u need more than 30%

In no pv im 3200 haste/2700mastery/5200vers

[fallen solar]

Yeah I’ll drop a Vers stone for mastery

[limber relic]

Lmao this is funny af esp since ppl always think representation = op

This is solo shuffle 1800+

This is solo shuffle 2400+

[quaint ruin]

1800+ is completley irrelevant

[fallen solar]

I love that melee is always on top now

Unholy is strong but I target them because they flop over

[limber relic]

Its not. Point is overall participation

[fallen solar]

WW is just an absurd amount of burst

[limber relic]

Ppl in here saying ww is weak and arms stronger :x

[fallen solar]

It also depends on the player. Sometimes. WW will most always win but I had a WW try some crap with me in world pvp and I buried him

Maybe he was just bad because I was nervous

[fickle forge]

Sintimissi

[limber relic]

Yeah. I mean ww is way harder to play thats for sure but a good ww will do insane dmg/peel ect

[fallen solar]

Yes. I have faced good ones and it’s chaos

[limber relic]

Same goes with sub rogue. Ppl gna say sub is bad cuz not alot of subs above 2400 in any bracket? :x

[fallen solar]

Sub hard to play. There is one guy who just hangs out in front of SW all day and duels everyone. He is 2400 in all brackets almost and I dueled him and I didn’t even get to press a button

Goldshire I mean

[fickle forge]

Sub is easy for arms at least 😎👍

[fallen solar]

Yes. I was on cooldown on my racial and trinket too

Got me in both his stuns

Too much damage

[limber relic]

Mby 1v1 but games not balanced around 1v1

[fickle forge]

Arena bro

Nothing matters in 1v1

[fallen solar]

RBGs rogue is great. So is MM

[limber relic]

In 2s/3s sub destroy warr+x comps

[shy aurora]

Ww does not have insane burst. If he has EVERYTHING has to line up perfectly

[fallen solar]

MM is my main too

Which is the case most the time lol

[mild thunder]

the joke is looking at shuffle

what's good in shuffle isnt necessarily what's good in 2s/3s and arms is a great example of that

[limber relic]

Yeah solo is irrelevant yes but my point is participation doesnt = op

[mild thunder]

it's not a complete picture but it does definitely indicate both community perception of strength and what's working on ladder

if a spec is super highly represented like ret, it's probably very good in shuffle

[limber relic]

Not imo. A class like warr has alot of comps so u can play it with almost anything = alot of warr

Doesnt mean a class is op. Just means ita compatible

[mild thunder]

but warrior doesnt get played with everything, it's getting played mostly with ret/warr

which is probably the best comp atm

[limber relic]

Not true.

Tsg/thundecleave/turbo/warr+aug/warr boomie

[mild thunder]

what part of that isnt true?

[quaint ruin]

Dude 90% of warrior comps are ret or enh

[mild thunder]

ret/warr is a very, very popular comp

warrior is very strong

ret/warr is one of the best comps

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cap-doctor-meme-gif-23263243

No shot dude lmao

Warr has like 10 ways to shut down sub

[limber relic]

Rmp>ret warr

[mild thunder]

🧢

[limber relic]

[mild thunder]

rmp has fallen off since SL

[limber relic]

[fickle forge]

Man's playing the best rogue counter in the game, and saying he's getting destroyed

[mild thunder]

why is kargish the only reasonable warrior

[limber relic]

Ur talking like u have any experience playing into rmp 2400+

Bruh

Wat

[mild thunder]

bro stop bragging about playing ret/warr to 2400

it's not a hard comp

[limber relic]

Never said its hard?

Never bragged?

[mild thunder]

🧢

[scarlet barn]

Based

[fickle forge]

Yah dude, we did KFC into 3k RMP teams yd

Just press one of your 3 billion buttons and nuke their go

[mild thunder]

the only comp more cringe than ret/warr is turbo

[limber relic]

At 1900 cr?

[fickle forge]

Mmr comes first

Doesn't matter if we meet them on 1500 or 2700 if it's them

They're him

[scarlet barn]

Him is them

[mild thunder]

they're literally him

playing kfc at 1800 unironically requires more brainpower than 2400 ret/warr

[green wyvern]

rmp is easy unless its whaazz raiku

and maybe 1-2 other rmp teams

theres no good rmp team on NA so it should be free points

[mild thunder]

rmp is really hard as warrior tbh (pls dont mention my 2 bladestorms, dbs, banner, rally, intervene, duel, disarm, fear or 2 stuns)

[fickle forge]

Ngl though, I don't really understand how cloak works

Cause after they remove shit initially, they still immune my wave, but I can OP through and fear

[mild thunder]

wave?

oh, shockwave

[fickle forge]

Stronkwave

[mild thunder]

they're probably dodging shockwave

op and fear going through makes sense

can you bolt cloak?

[fickle forge]

Not sure

[green wyvern]

wait rogues gain dodge in cloak now?

[fickle forge]

: )

[mild thunder]

with a pvp talent ye

[scarlet barn]

you should be able to bolt cloak

[green wyvern]

shockwave should go through dodge

afaik

[scarlet barn]

Even with this new retarded cloak popping evasion or something, only thing rogue can do pre bolt is vanish or meld

[mild thunder]

tbh i dunno why it would

roar can be dodged

[fickle forge]

Spear can be dodged

[mild thunder]

[limber relic]

So ur 1900 cr 2700 mmr?

[green wyvern]

kinda miss wow

havent played in ages

[mild thunder]

return and play kfc with me

[green wyvern]

Im on EU tho

EU dead region

[mild thunder]

kfc probs the best it's been since wod tbh

still ass

but better than it's been since wod

[green wyvern]

I think if they dont nerf mm for 10.2

mm might be the best hunter spec with warr

[mild thunder]

isnt the mm tier set dookie tho?

[fickle forge]

When are you going 2700 mmr in the gym huh?

[green wyvern]

double safeguard to peel

[limber relic]

Cn i just ask what your basing your thoughts on rmp being ez to beat? @mild thunder @fickle forge

[fickle forge]

Maybe then you won't have this virgin victimhood mentality

[mild thunder]

holy BASED

[scarlet barn]

oh no

[green wyvern]

I dont think they are easy to beat

[scarlet barn]

I need taht screenshot

now

[green wyvern]

but I do think

rmp players make lots of mistakes

unless they are really coordinated

[fickle forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/732611912126431304/789949947729805373/unknown.png

[mild thunder]

i mean, it's a tense matchup like rmp games always are, but warrior and ret absolutely have the tools to deal with it

[limber relic]

Depends on what ratings? I played against 2700 mmr rmp and it was kinda impossible to stop their goes

U can delay it but eventually ull get fucked.

[green wyvern]

what spec do mages play rn

arcane?

[limber relic]

Fire/arcane

[fallen solar]

getting blown up by my hunter spec

[mild thunder]

you're rotating banner, 2 bladestorms, intervene, 2 stuns, fear, duel, disarm, rally with ret's 1min sac, sanc, bop, bubble, potentially searing glare and then wahtever your healer brings

you cant honestly say you dont have the tools

[green wyvern]

Arcane is cancer

[scarlet barn]

there we go

[green wyvern]

I have trauma from sl s1 rmp

[limber relic]

How do u stop a step>cheapshot>sheep? Or db>sheep?
Yes u can banner/bs 0.01s before cheapshot/db/chast

But

After that?

Bubble? Massdispell?

[green wyvern]

tbh im not sure how much damage rmp does these days rofl

[limber relic]

How do u searing when u get kidney?

Like i gotta love when @mild thunder brings his 2100 surv hunter exp into the mix

Im sorry

[mild thunder]

bro stop bragging about playing an op comp to 2400 after >1000 games

ive played half as many games as you with a shit comp on a brand new spec and im already 2.2

[limber relic]

Yes like i played 1000 ret warr games

[mild thunder]

nope, you were hardstuck and needed to play ret/warr to climb

[green wyvern]

I feel like arcane makes it hard

[mild thunder]

that's even worse, lil bro

[green wyvern]

cuz you only have 1 viable kill target

[limber relic]

Wasnt hardstuck. Played with friends, tried diffrent comps ect

[mild thunder]

you had ~1000 games and hadnt climbed

that's hardstuck

playing ret/warr to glad isnt some amazing achievement... i watched your stream of tunneling one target and waiting for your ret to 1tap and win

it's not impressive

[limber relic]

How am i hardstuck when as soon as i actually tried to climb i went 2100-2400 in 1-2h?

"Op comp, carried" 🤓

[mild thunder]

you were in here crying about how you cant climb with tsg and had played so many games and your teammates were calling you shit etc.

sounds like you werent just mucking around with friends for some teehee moments

[limber relic]

Yeah? Played around 100 games with tsg and we got to 2300

[mild thunder]

if you can actually play to 2400 without abusing a meta comp next season i'll be impressed

[limber relic]

And also healer was a friend yes ^^

[mild thunder]

no surprise both your glads come from when arms is top-tier and an op comp

[limber relic]

Didnt get glad with ret warr s2 sl tho

[mild thunder]

what did you get it with?

[limber relic]

Dh warr hpriest. Dh/hpriest were trash in sl

[mild thunder]

slightly more respectable, but it was unchained after all

like i said, if you can play a non-meta comp to 2400 next season i'll be impressed

fuck it, i will actually sub to your twitch channel

[limber relic]

If u can get glad at all ill be impressed

[mild thunder]

mate im 2.2 with 7 weeks left and half as many games as you took for your push

i think i'll be fine

gonna accept the challenge?

[limber relic]

[mild thunder]

gonna accept the challenge?

[limber relic]

Bruh, u make it sound as if i did 1000 games as ret/warr with same ppl

[mild thunder]

stop dodging the question

[limber relic]

What challenge? Getting glad with a non meta comp? Lmao

[mild thunder]

yep

[limber relic]

Whats a non meta comp?

[mild thunder]

depends on next season's meta

[limber relic]

Mans gonna say sub warr disc in this season

[mild thunder]

just accept it bro

what's the downside besides hurting your precious ego

[limber relic]

There is 0 "non meta" comps at 2400 even rightnow

[mild thunder]

sounds like you know you cant do it

[limber relic]

Prob not? Then again i dont see anyone being able to do it? 😂😂😂

[mild thunder]

idk man, looks like im gonna be glad with a non-meta comp

[limber relic]

What comp?

[fallen solar]

How is this one guy I’m inspecting right now 69-68 in solo and he almost 2400? He have high MMR games the whole time?

[mild thunder]

jungle

[limber relic]

Jungle not meta? 😂

[mild thunder]

do you think jungle is meta??

[limber relic]

I mean its not bad

[mild thunder]

ok, play kfc to glad next season then

[fickle forge]

Sanc

🤷‍♂️

[mild thunder]

that's roughly equivalent

[limber relic]

How to sanc if rogue kidney ret?🤔

[mild thunder]

int the kidney

[fickle forge]

Pre-intervene 😎👍

[limber relic]

Wait out kidney>kidney

?

[mild thunder]

you know you can actually intervene the kidney, right?

[fallen solar]

I’m 139-123 how am I not 2100 yet? Im 1911. My MMR must suck

[mild thunder]

instead of just inting early and giving them time to reset

[limber relic]

Id have to perfectly predict kidney to stop their go. And even if i do, they cheapshot ret instead>sheep me

[mild thunder]

wait, have you just never actually intervened cc?

[fickle forge]

Eksdee

[limber relic]

Ofc i have lmfao

[mild thunder]

omega self-report

[limber relic]

Ok how about this

Do u know rmp go against ret/warr?

[fickle forge]

Telling you dude, even if you manage to pre-stop 1 DR, you ruin their go

Ofc it's a lot harder vs Hpriest RMP

[green wyvern]

Its hard to pre against good rmps

[fickle forge]

Cause they do /pull 3 and then hit their instants

[limber relic]

Do u know their go on ret warr?

@fickle forge

[green wyvern]

if they can get kidney on ret and db on war their go is fully accomplished

or the other way around

but some rmps fuck it up

[limber relic]

Na bro, dont tellem

😂

This is funny

I wna see what they know

[green wyvern]

warr comps are good at delaying gos from rmp, not necessarily stopping them

but many people dont know that rmp is dampening comp

[limber relic]

"Predict kidney and interneve" #1 rmp counter 2023

[green wyvern]

so if you delay too much

you lose

[limber relic]

@mild thunder @fickle forge tellme rmp go against warr/ret and how to stop it

[mild thunder]

i play neither rmp or ret/warr

tell me when you're gonna accept the deal

[limber relic]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Preaching about ret warr>rmp then saying "i play neither rmp or ret wrr"

Im out

👏👏🤙✌️

[green wyvern]

I remember in sl I played against whaazz raiku rmp

and I died to raiku combusting whwn their go was already over

many times

[mild thunder]

sorry, i cant possibly understand the deep intricacies of such a high-brow comp

[green wyvern]

but fire mage was broken back then

[mild thunder]

truly you need a PHD to successfully execute such complex utility as pressing sanc on your teammate

[limber relic]

But u dont play ret warr tho?🤔🤔

[mild thunder]

@ me when you stop pussying out and accept the deal

[limber relic]

Also 2133 cr 3s

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[fickle forge]

I'm in class bro, patience

[green wyvern]

is hpriest still meta

for rmp

[mild thunder]

rmp isnt really meta in general atm

[limber relic]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I cba

[mild thunder]

rmp meta btw

[limber relic]

Im sorry this is ridicolous

[mild thunder]

do people like you ever get tired of playing professional victim 24/7?

[limber relic]

Here we go again with participation=meta

From the 2100 hero

[mild thunder]

yea, seems like a meta would be indicated partly by popularity, retard

[limber relic]

Rmp is hard to play perfectly, requires perfect synergy but if u do it correct will blast ALMOST any comp.

[fickle forge]

Yes

That's true

Which is why Whaazz and Raiku are who they are

And nobody else is who they are

[mild thunder]

conversely, ret/warr is beginner-friendly, retard-proof and requires no coordination which is why it's more meta

[limber relic]

"More meta"

[mild thunder]

right, the 2 melee dps dominating representation are totally not meta

[fickle forge]

It's easy to pick up yeah

[limber relic]

Never said its not meta or not good

[fickle forge]

Why do you think boosting services often deny mages

Cause they can't be carried

You actually gotta be able to name 10 books before you can play it to some sort of rating

[limber relic]

No reply? :x

[fickle forge]

I'll do it in my break, when I have time to argue it with you : )

[limber relic]

"Low representation" is not an answer

[mild thunder]

still waiting for lil bro to accept the challenge

[limber relic]

@mild thunder doesnt know cuz he doesnt play any od those but he knows ret/warr>rmp cuz representation

[mild thunder]

yep, i totally never brought up the littany of utility that ret/warr brings against rmp

[mild thunder]

still waiting btw

[limber relic]

Hunter comps that are the best rn is php/jgl/kfc, all are really strong rn. I would say jgl>kfc by far

[mild thunder]

🧢

mm jungle MAYBE

and even that's a stretch

[fickle forge]

PHP pretty stronk

[mild thunder]

the biggest issue with jungle is just that feral gets tunneled into the ground by any melee comp and hunters cant really do anything to stop it/punish the enemy team

which is why most ferals opt to play feral/sp, fmp, feral/lock etc.

php is strong af, sure

but i dont play it

[limber relic]

L2p issue. Just kite>clone>trap>incarn>ded

[mild thunder]

play jungle next season then

[limber relic]

Im not a hunter/feral main

[mild thunder]

i picked it up a month ago and hit 2200, im sure a god of the arena like you can get gladiator with it easily

[fickle forge]

Feral does like 120k dps ideally, but dies like a dog

[mild thunder]

since it's such a meta comp

[mild thunder]

you arent doing this damage into any melee cleave, feral literally just gets W keyed and has ass defensives

frenzied regen heals for like 8% hp

[fickle forge]

Ye, it dies

[limber relic]

Just kite/scatter/root

Ez

[mild thunder]

.

[limber relic]

Id prob be a shit hunter/feral 🤷‍♂️

Ive only played warr

[mild thunder]

i picked it up a month ago, like i said im sure such an amazing player would be able to dominate with it

[limber relic]

I never said im amazing player/hunter/feral?

🤔

[mild thunder]

zzzzzzz

you totally dont brag all day long acting as though you're the bee's knees

roxi was more entertaining than this

[fickle forge]

I miss Rovicus

[limber relic]

Not really? Is using my exp as refrence bragging?

Ur talking as if u have any experence but the fact is ur 2133 cr 3v3 rn

🤷‍♂️

[mild thunder]

yep, im a 2200 xp sv hunter after picking it up a month ago

dont think ive ever said anything different

[limber relic]

Before i used to be "just a s2 sl glad warr"

Now im a "ret warr glad"

But being 2100 is mvp

👌👌

[mild thunder]

not my fault you can only get glad either by ret/warr or during unchained

i literally said i'd sub to you if you got glad as a non-meta comp

and yea, i think being 2200xp on a brand new spec playing a non-meta comp is pretty decent, especially considering ive still played less than half as many games as you

[limber relic]

Not my fault u cant even get glad during unchained or any other season for that matter

[mild thunder]

pretty sure i played like 50 games during unchained, but yea i'll admit i was dogshit back then

[limber relic]

500 games this late into season playing jungle which is not a bad comp by any means and barely peaking 2200

Is tsg meta then?

[mild thunder]

shit, back then i used to look at arms being a top-rep spec and pretend we werent S tier

imagine that

[limber relic]

Rn is tsg meta?

[mild thunder]

not really imo

[limber relic]

I got 2300 playing tsg

[mild thunder]

still better than jungle kekw

[limber relic]

Couldve easily gotten glad as tsg if i kept going

[mild thunder]

didnt your team drop you?

[limber relic]

They did cuz i couldnt play 1-2 days

They are also stuck 2200 rn

Idm

[mild thunder]

it's amazing what picking up ret/warr will do for you

[limber relic]

Play php, i wna see how quick u can get glad with it

"Its too ez, i dont wnq"🤓

[mild thunder]

no thanks, i dont play meta comps for free rating

[limber relic]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[mild thunder]

i'd rather challenge myself playing with friends

[limber relic]

Ok whatever makes u sleep at night my guy

[mild thunder]

so you gonna take the deal?

or keep dodging

[mild thunder]

legit mad because im not fotm rerolling comps

[limber relic]

Not mad at all, just looks like an awerful excuse for being hardstuck 2100 after 500 games with same team same comp

[mild thunder]

man, lucky im not hardstuck since 500 games really isnt that deep

especially since the first 300 were basically me learning how to actually land a trap

havent you played like 10,000 games total this season?

[limber relic]

Right ofc but when i say i play with friends/try comps ect im not being honest

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

Or just being hardstuck

[fickle forge]

./cast [target=focus] Freezing Trap 😎 👍

[mild thunder]

because you didnt actually push with them, you pushed with a meta comp

and yea, it's also different when you've played ~8,000 games on one class this season to my 500

[mild thunder]

if only

i had to install cursortrail addon to stop trolling

[limber relic]

Yeah so then i have max 150 games "pushing" glad then?

"With meta comp" 🤓🤓

[mild thunder]

didnt you tank back down to 2100 playing tsg?

[fickle forge]

I mean ya'll are coping about some dumb shit

[mild thunder]

nothing i have said is wrong 🤷‍♂️

[limber relic]

2200*

[mild thunder]

still waiting for you to accept the deal

[fallen solar]

Y’all been arguing about comps for 2 hours

[mild thunder]

my feral is doing alt queues 😠

[limber relic]

Not arguing, just laughing at someone with literally 0 warr xp talks like he knows this game inside out

[fallen solar]

👀

[mild thunder]

i dont think 2.2xp on warr is 0 but ok lil bro... the deal is still there for you to actually man up and take it

literally free money for you

[limber relic]

2.2 in sl s2?

👏👏👏👏👏👏

[mild thunder]

i actually dont remember if it's s2 or s3

[limber relic]

I thought i remmeber rival s2

🤔

[mild thunder]

so it would be s3 xp then

[limber relic]

-Preaching about s2 glad being shit
"2.2k s2 sl xp🤓"

[mild thunder]

is it s2 or s3 bro

make up your mind

[limber relic]

Ok ok
-Preaching about s2 glad being shit
"1900 s2 sl xp🤓"

Fixed

[mild thunder]

yep, it was 2.2 s3

[fickle forge]

@limber relic Okay we back bro

[limber relic]

-Preaching about s2 glad being shit
"1900 s2 sl, 2200 s3 sl" 🤓

Fixed

[fickle forge]

DB+ring melees/sheep warr, chastise+fear/sheep heal and kidney ret, cheap warr trinket

[limber relic]

Sry

[fickle forge]

That about sums it up fam?

[mild thunder]

taking the deal?

you're literally just dodging

over

and over

and over

[limber relic]

Cheap warr>sheep*

But almost

[fickle forge]

I mean if they do that, your ret just sancs you

And then you press your stuff

[mild thunder]

[fickle forge]

All CC has to be instant or somebody will react with a breaker

At least I hope ya'll do

[limber relic]

Kidney>dance>step>cheap

[fickle forge]

Step cheap on you?

Nah can't be right dude

How are you not using one of your 2 storms on that

[limber relic]

Stormbolt has casttime

[mild thunder]

??????????????????

[fickle forge]

Don't press bolt?

[mild thunder]

?????????????????????????????????

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????

bro is self-reporting again

[limber relic]

Storm ok

Yes

Sure

[fickle forge]

Use bladestorm

[limber relic]

Thought stormbolt

[fickle forge]

Or hell press banner

[limber relic]

So when u get nova

Do u sit?

Or wait for freedom

[fickle forge]

I wait for dispel

You can freedom too

Both is fine

Surely your ret is using his freedom for roots/goes

[limber relic]

U think u will get dispelled every time u get novad and only use bs for stopping their go?

[fickle forge]

Yes?

Like literally

[limber relic]

Ok and u dont use avatar on your go?

Since u use it to stop their go?

[fickle forge]

It makes sense to use a bs if you're doing a go

[limber relic]

Or do u "go" when your team is ccd and gets bursted?

[fickle forge]

If you can stop a go from hitting Avatar, it's 100% worth it

But surely you hit normal BS first for that

[limber relic]

Ok so u used ur bs on their go, second go is what? 20s later?

[fickle forge]

You're playing ret+warr dude, you win on damp

[limber relic]

Next time u banner?

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

HAHAHAHAHA

Ok thats it

No point

"Ret war win on dampening"

[fickle forge]

My guy thinking ret+warr isn't a damper

[limber relic]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Rmp isnt dampening

[fickle forge]

No

It isn't

[limber relic]

I cba

[fickle forge]

RMP loses to pressure eventually

It falls behind

Which is why if you just use one of your comps 20 stops, you win eventually

[limber relic]

Help me pls

[fickle forge]

RMP has to end you before they just lose by damage

Mike is speaking for Shadowlands

Where RMP was dampening you

Cause assassa was dumb shit

[limber relic]

Stil is the same. Rmp needs 0 heals

[fickle forge]

Outlaw meta as well

[mild thunder]

what's this victim mentality im reading

[fickle forge]

I mean you play ret+warr, with Rdruid no less, it's no wonder you take a while to kill a mage

[wheat jay]

What the fuck am I reading

[limber relic]

[wheat jay]

I wake up to this bullshit

[limber relic]

Dis too funny

[wheat jay]

Bro y'all go too hard on this topic so imma summarize

First the shit about rmp

Mage flops

Ret/warr has ALL the tools to win and never die

Ret/warr, same as turbo, and same as tsg is by design a damp comp

[fickle forge]

In the man's defense, mage doesn't flop as hard to a no purge ret+warr comp

Where as we just run him over in 30 seconds

[wheat jay]

Damp comp is not something that wins after 5min cuz you got cc chain going

Damp comp is a comp whose chance of winning increases based on dampening

Usually its comps like turbo that just blast you with damage

[wheat jay]

Thus they rely on damp to kill them

[fickle forge]

Idk man, if you have full HoTs, trees and ret walls in stun

How's he ever dead

Arcane with klepto would be the only exception

[mild thunder]

has he accepted the offer yet? 💤

[wheat jay]

Y'all dumb

Stop arguing about stupid shit

[fickle forge]

Nein

Someone has to keep this channel alive

[mild thunder]

bring back roxi

[wheat jay]

Let the man live in delusion that his comp is a setup F tier comp and he's just a god

Easy enough

[fickle forge]

And #pvp is basically #vent

😎 👍

[mild thunder]

im too petty for that

[fickle forge]

If we weren't arguing with @limber relic here every day, nobody would be talking I mean

Besides Artji who constantly argues with the voices

[wheat jay]

They never shut up

[scarlet barn]

I can silence them

[limber relic]

Idk why i would wna take a bet like "play x comp" to glad to try and prove myself to someone who is stuck 2100 :x

[scarlet barn]

But it will be forever

[fickle forge]

Do it for the vine

[fickle forge]

We'll silence them together in Romania

[scarlet barn]

I will slap you

[fickle forge]

❤️

[limber relic]

https://tenor.com/view/i-aint-gonna-do-it-no-do-it-for-the-vine-do-it-not-doing-it-gif-16743198

[mild thunder]

i literally said id sub to your channel

just admit you cant do it

[limber relic]

Sub is what? 1€ 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[mild thunder]

you'll probably be doubling your sub-count

sounds worth to me

[limber relic]

I mean subs are nice ofc but its not the reason i stream.

Also the double of 0 is stil 0.

No but jokes aside, dont need ur sub tyvm

[fickle forge]

Dw bro, @elfin surge started out as a 10 viewers streamer too, until I got his name in #268491842637660160

And now that Mud literally doesn't stream ever, you can overtake his place

[tribal wedge]

back in time when he was a S warrior

[limber relic]

@elfin surge cn i be mudcx2.0? 😍

[mild thunder]

something tells me you're not avoiding the bet because you just dont want subs

[limber relic]

Dont need the sub and dont need to prove u a point. Give me 10k € and sure ill do it.

🤷‍♂️

[mild thunder]

so you can make money off buying a carry

ok lil bro

[limber relic]

Wat

Msg me when u get ur glad. I wna see how far into inflation itll take

[mild thunder]

are you trying to act like you didnt also get yours at the end of the season?

[wheat jay]

its like 6 weeks till the end of season

so basically end

[mild thunder]

if you were getting it at the start of the season you'd probably be pushing r1 lmao

[elfin surge]

😳

[limber relic]

6weeks is +120mmr. We were pushing 2700 mmr🤷‍♂️

[mild thunder]

who gives a shit about your mmr lol

you dont get r1 for your mmr

[wheat jay]

i wish mmr got removed

have mmr appear above 2400

below that have CR only

[limber relic]

I never talked about r1 tho

But i mean i did reach rank 14 arms in eu but i doubt im capable of reaching r1

[elfin surge]

rank 14 classic wow?

[atomic orchid]

In HC?

[fickle forge]

Mud fell in the mud

[limber relic]

Rank 14 1550

Rank 14. From the bottom

Rank 14 never getting r1

[iron fractal]

Is arms or fury best if you want to do random bgs with a friend?

[devout anchor]

What build do you guys usually run in solo shuffle?

[lavish quest]

Fury has a little better solo survivability, but it probably doesn't matter much. Especially random bgs, just do what you enjoy.

[iron fractal]

So fury had more survivability, but how’s the damage between the two?

[tribal wedge]

arms dam >

[lavish quest]

Comparable. Fury is more about just funneling into one target and having uptime.
Arms probably better in mass aoe/cleaving. Arms has more utility.

[fallen solar]

Now for next season it’s gonna be interesting because the fury tier set looks broken

[lavish quest]

And well have to see if arms get compensation for the IG nerf.
The new PvP talents are gonna be for all warriors right?

[fickle forge]

IG nerf is a small nerf though

[mild thunder]

yep, but fury will probably get far less value out of safeguard

[lavish quest]

I dunno, we'll have to see how the IG change works out. Might be small, might be big. Less OPs, less CS. 🤷‍♂️

[mild thunder]

there'll 100% be compensation for it

[lavish quest]

And what makes fury get less value? Can't bladestorm while intervene is up?

[mild thunder]

if you intervene anything important as fury you're probably just dead

[lavish quest]

I mean... both can sit in Dstance eh?
I guess fury has no parry.

Can only DR with it

[mild thunder]

no bladestorm
no parry
no ignore pain

[lavish quest]

No IG, but has healing as it hits. And both are affected by damp right? So kind of similar wouldn't it be?

Or is IG not affected by damp? I assumed it would be

[mild thunder]

cant hit anything while you're cc'd

but yes fury is far more affected by damp than arms, and arms is probably the tankiest spec in pvp

[lavish quest]

Could still cancel the intervene right? Sounds like the DR you give to your ally isn't tied to the actual intervene connection from how it reads.
If truly can't afford to take the hits

[mild thunder]

you have to move to break the connection, which isnt always easy or convenient

but yea if you're having to do that, like i said, you're not getting as much value out of it as arms

[lavish quest]

I thought you could macro a cancel aura of it? I thought you used to be able to at least. 🤔 Haven't tried in at least forever

[mild thunder]

maybe? but i imagine it'd have to be your partner that's canceling it since the buff is on them

[lavish quest]

I'd have to look into it. I thought you both got a buff that did it. I dunno, I could be high.

I am certainly hopping Arms just gets the compensation buffs anyways. Has always been the pvp spec for me.
Even if blood rage is very nice

Wish arms had it and like... 3 more pvp talent slots 🤣

I don't even know why shadow of the colossus is still a thing. Has anyone ever taken it in history?

[mild thunder]

arms has the best suite of pvp talents in the game

[lavish quest]

I know it does, hard to choose lol

[tribal wedge]

and probably one of the best tier set in 10.2 imo

[mild thunder]

SotC is a cruel meme by blizzard to remind us that they have all the power

[lavish quest]

😂

And we'll see. Arms and fury's tiers are both hella bugged. So hopefully they fix them

[mild thunder]

ive got a hot take

real nuclear temperatures approaching

watch out

somehow, someway, potentially, probably i think it's a possibility that arms will find a way to be a top-tier spec next season

[lavish quest]

Maybe the Lego will just read "Equip: Deletes mages"
What I'm really looking for

[iron fractal]

Mostly been playing fury in bgs due to the self heal, but I’ll try some arms

Colossus smash with aoe or single target for bgs?

[lavish quest]

You'll likely get more use out of warbreaker in a bg environment

At least you'll look better on the meters lol

[thick reef]

Yeah def warbreak in bgs cuz people will just stack for u

[iron fractal]

Anyone got a good arms build for battlegrounds?

[lavish quest]

Not home. But... get rend, Shockwave, double bs, Thunderclap with rend spread, consider hurricane, stuff like that

[fickle forge]

Doubt (X)

I don't see why they would

[limber relic]

Safeguard will carry warrs enough even with IP nerfs

[lavish quest]

But Safeguard doesn't do dam.
And we wanna do big dam

[limber relic]

Ill take 2x barkskin over smol dmg

[lavish quest]

I'm a simple man who likes to put the zug and zug together

[limber relic]

https://tenor.com/view/zug-zug-wo-w-world-of-warcraft-orc-dance-gif-12706638

[frank knoll]

Should I rock my 450 haste weapon as an offhand or go with my 447 mastery weapon

It’s like 3% more haste HP and strength vs 3% more mastery

[frank knoll]

I see Arms do big Dam in BGs with clap + Avatar + Csmash + roar+ bladestorm
Saw a guy doing like 150k dps busting yesterday

[robust hearth]

I bet Mud owns a cat

Or would prefer cats over dogs

🐈 > 🐕

[elfin surge]

I do have a cat his name is Zeus.

[wheat jay]

Cats are cool

Do are doggos

[fickle forge]

It'll help dealing with RMP

: )

[limber relic]

It wont help u getting above 1900 :x

[fickle forge]

That's okay bro, I'll just do it myself then

[scarlet barn]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gif-25117042

[limber relic]

I wna see that :x

[fickle forge]

Sure, no worries

[wheat jay]

Excuse me, we're already above Seif

[limber relic]

I see karanze at 1944 :x

[wheat jay]

Precisely

[limber relic]

Gz. Wp. Amazing 👏👏

Namba 1

[fickle forge]

Dw, we'll Q 3s again in 2 months when Artji gets another day off

[limber relic]

Damn. Wouldve been r1 if he could play

100%

[elfin surge]

nice form bro 💪but It wont help u getting above 1900 :x @fickle forge

[limber relic]

💯

[fickle forge]

:x

Is Mud gonna get above 1900 with Desi though

[elfin surge]

nice bench bro but It wont help u getting above 1900 :x

[limber relic]

[fickle forge]

nice book bro but it wont help u getting above 1900 :x

[elfin surge]

name 10 books?

[fickle forge]

Post bench?

[elfin surge]

[limber relic]

Glad>bench

https://tenor.com/view/jumping-flying-imma-head-out-aight-transition-gif-17843890

[fickle forge]

Average Seif L take

[limber relic]

Never forgett. Rmp loses dampening games

2023

Thank you sensei

[fickle forge]

When are you gonna damp yourself into the gym huh?

What % does it need to reach before you get your shit together and get going?

[limber relic]

When are u gna damp yourself above 1900? I mean 2000 since ur finally 1944

[green wyvern]

warrior cord is unhinged

[limber relic]

Nerfed by 60%

[fickle forge]

Nah, Seif and I just be chillaxing it out

[green wyvern]

[limber relic]

Ah, is that another way of saying "i cant"?

:x

[fickle forge]

I can't, cause my 3rd is stuck working slave wages 25 hours a day

You done with a proper CV by now? @wheat jay

[limber relic]

I could pick up weights tomorrow. Could u pick up glad tomorrow? :x

🙈🙉🙊

[fickle forge]

Will you pick up weights tomorrow?

[limber relic]

I gotta wait til my sleeve is healed. Not allowed to exercise.

Feelsbadman

[fickle forge]

Skill issue

[limber relic]

Wait 3 weeks and ill start. Then in dec i gotta pause again

😦

I have 2 sessions left then my sleeve is done

[fickle forge]

Man gonna hit gym challenger and then start over again

When he could be getting gym glad right now

[limber relic]

Lifting is 2 ez

🤷‍♂️

[fickle forge]

Ret+warr easy or easier?

[lavish quest]

Forget galartji just pug 2k 😉

[fickle forge]

Nah man, I never leave the homies behind

[limber relic]

Yet youre 1944. Oh right "i dont play ez comp i rather hardstuck 1944 all my life"

[fickle forge]

[lavish quest]

Simple solution. Don't have homies

[limber relic]

Ill give u that "get out of jail freecard"

[fickle forge]

When Artji can play again in 4 blood moons, we'll get another +15 cr

[limber relic]

"I dont qna play ez comp, i wna strugglr at 2k"

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-want-peace-i-want-problems-always-choose-violence-no-peace-problems-gif-24342946

[limber relic]

[fickle forge]

My man's trying to call me out for the stuff Gala told him

[limber relic]

I thought u said the same :x

"I only play kfc cuz ret warr is ez"

[lavish quest]

The ret/war hate is adorable. Who cares how he did it.
Mages exist after all.

[wheat jay]

Lol that was galachad iirc

I play survi cuz I despise paladins

[lavish quest]

Although I don't really play 3s so maybe I dunno lol

[limber relic]

🤔🤔🤔

[fickle forge]

We don't, we already said that lmao

[lavish quest]

Someone here clearly cares

[limber relic]

They just saying ret warr is ez but they stuck 2k :x

🙊🙈🙉

[fickle forge]

🤷‍♂️

[limber relic]

I think its galachad who really cares

:x

[fickle forge]

Galachad lives off of baiting

[limber relic]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-pinch-so-fluffy-gif-14828300

[fickle forge]

😎👍

Just like Artji

[limber relic]

Well it was a good entertainment while i was at work ngl

[lavish quest]

And now I'm at work

D:

Yall had a good time while I was a sleepin'

[frank knoll]

I thought Galachad was a rank 1 multiglad like Mud

[limber relic]

[lavish quest]

Mud doesn't play. You've been baited

[limber relic]

Made me burst out in laughter on the subway

[thick reef]

Idk

Like I swear ret/war is easy but so is turbo so I can’t make fun of any of y’all who play it

Respect to y’all for grinding it out on any comp

[frank knoll]

Real quick can someone answer my PvP related question

Should I rock my 450 haste weapon as an offhand or go with my 447 mastery weapon?

[elfin surge]

Yet youre 1944. Oh right "i dont play ez comp i rather hardstuck 1944 all my life"

[limber relic]

Wat?

Get off my dick @elfin surge

Y u bully me

I can send u an autographed pic of my character for free to u np

[atomic orchid]

[limber relic]

[high coral]

[fallen estuary]

Why u kissin me bro wtf

[lavish quest]

No homo

[limber relic]

I think its 100% homo

Ngl

[lavish quest]

😂

[limber relic]

But i dont judge

[lavish quest]

I judge. Just, I judge mage players.

[limber relic]

Well they should burn

[atomic orchid]

It’s my daughter bro and she’s already better prot warrior

[elfin surge]

????

[lavish quest]

Some of them literally do. Unfortunately just makes them stronger

[limber relic]

????

[lavish quest]

When burn the witches doesn't work

[limber relic]

fire mages already burn

:x

[lavish quest]

[lavish quest]

Mud doing arts n crafts

[limber relic]

do u read it from top to bottom or bottom to top

2 diffrent stories depending on how u read it

[elfin surge]

just ur chat logs bro

bit sus

[limber relic]

nothing sus

mages should burn

<.<

idk what ur trying to claim here

[lavish quest]

I would agree if it worked.

[limber relic]

@elfin surge do u stil want that signed picture of my chracter like u asked lemme know and il send it

legit question tho, how do u know if a song is DMCA or no

[lavish quest]

Someone strikes your stuff

[limber relic]

[lavish quest]

On the real. Think youtube scans vids on upload for stuff like that. Dunno if something similar for twitch. Might be some kind of database.
Prob best way is just to find flat out copyright free sources

[elfin surge]

doesnt really matter on twitch but youtube will fuck u over

i only play copyrighted music on stream

[limber relic]

so i can play dmca music on twitch?

wat

[elfin surge]

I do lol

it'll just mute your vod

sometimes it does sometimes it does nothing

[limber relic]

dafuq

[elfin surge]

idk

[limber relic]

do u have any copstrikes?

[elfin surge]

nope

0/3 still

lol

[lavish quest]

Well he's still working on hitting 3 streams total

😉

[limber relic]

me?

[lavish quest]

Mud

[iron fractal]

If I have thunderclap that applies rend, do I still need to use regular rend, or should I just use thunderclap instead?

[fickle forge]

Clap them cheeks

Just take Rend off your bar

You'll always have rage for clap

[iron fractal]

Is Wrecking throw worth to grab?

[fickle forge]

Nah, try to throw it instead of catching it

[delicate parrot]

[sharp meteor]

It's a very large hit into absorbs, so dark pact, saved by the light, shield of vengeance, etc.

Better than most of the alternatives into stuff like mages or warlocks where you can just ding a chunk out of their absorb.

[delicate parrot]

anytime you can actually get use from it, it’s probably worth taking

[iron fractal]

If I have to choose between leeching strikes and Furious Blows?

[sharp meteor]

Oh. Are you taking big rally or second wind?

[iron fractal]

Well I have second wind atm ( running random bgs so its nice to have it)

[fickle forge]

Skip it, there's better stuff

Link your tree

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This is what I run atm when I do random battlegrounds.

BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWiERCJJpVKJBAAAAEEh0gEUERjSiQSoIRQIARCAAAAAAAAJKJiACRDB

[fickle forge]

SS it

I can't pop that in on phone

[iron fractal]

sec

[fickle forge]

Eh it's okay actually

I'd still trade Unhinged and SW for something else, but if it's just casual BGs, then it doesn't matter

[iron fractal]

Using Unhinged cause its fun to pop avatar, get a bladestorm with Blademasters torment.. then pop another bladestorm