pvp

[mild thunder]

laros hasnt posted in 6 months

[fickle forge]

What about that warried guy?

[mild thunder]

and before that?

[scarlet flame]

idk i didn't even click on it

i just saw it from 2 months ago and ignored it

[mild thunder]

because no one really consistently makes high-end pvp content for warrior

besides bajheera when 10.2 comes out

he'll make content for a few months

then continue the bajheera cycle

but i wouldnt wager that bajheera gets many people whining in his videos because he's terminally positive

[scarlet flame]

nah hes bitched about warrior being bad

before buffs

thats why i ignored that video from 2 months ago

[fickle forge]

Majority of Baj commentors are people asking for lifting/diet advice

[scarlet flame]

when everyone was actually bitching about warrior being bad

[mild thunder]

when it wasnt even that bad?

[scarlet flame]

when it was worse than every melee except outlaw and fdk

[mild thunder]

outlaw isnt even bad

[scarlet flame]

it got buffed before warrior did

[mild thunder]

bro you havent even played the game in forever, just stop

[scarlet flame]

the last time i played the game was before warrior got buffed

and it was 100% worse than dk ww ret dh sub

[fickle forge]

Had a ballin' moment today

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/872557080819691591/1153403520372977764/image.png

[mild thunder]

dh hasnt been good all season
and being worse than literal S tier specs doesnt make you bad lol

[scarlet flame]

when the only spots you have for your tier is S tier and dogshit trash where fdk assasa and outlaw were its bad

[mild thunder]

maybe because you're a retard that categorises things that way?

sounds like a you issue

[scarlet flame]

and ret and both war specs were c tier

[mild thunder]

arms was solidly ~A - B tier before the buffs

[scarlet flame]

you are the only person who thinks that

[mild thunder]

it's solidly A++ tier now

[frank knoll]

Outlaw is ass

They do no damage and just die

[mild thunder]

[fickle forge]

Die
Rogue

Pick one

[mild thunder]

why do i bother

[scarlet flame]

id why i bother either

you have a hate boner for 1500 warriors complaining in a warrior discord

[mild thunder]

pretty much everyone that doesnt main warrior thinks that btw

[scarlet flame]

right

[mild thunder]

the buffs werent even that big
how do you explain a spec going from bottom tier to top tier from buffs that were barely significant

[scarlet flame]

how do you explain not hitting over 150k with fully buffed MS to hitting over 200k with fully buffed MS and say the buffs weren't big

[fickle forge]

Nah the buffs were definitely big

[scarlet flame]

BS damage goes from 27k crits to 60k crits

[mild thunder]

the only people that hit over 200k are retards that run the spear build

[scarlet flame]

execute from less than 100k crits to over 190k

[fickle forge]

1.15 to 1.35 and +15% on Exe

[mild thunder]

most people dont hit those numbers

[fickle forge]

That shit's big

[scarlet flame]

i mean i logged on to play warrior for like 5 2s matches after the buffs and 1 shuffle match and i was consistently hitting for over 170k on people

[mild thunder]

but your burst was nerfed and now you need 100% uptime to kill anything

[fickle forge]

Spear only gives 15% crit dmg, it'd still be like 180k without it

[fickle forge]

Warr hammers when it can connect

[scarlet flame]

not crit MS goes from literally 30k o 60k+

[mild thunder]

you're also probably stacking different stats and using different gear to most warriors

[scarlet flame]

the buffs were pretty big

[fickle forge]

Haste+mast

[mild thunder]

mortal strike got a 100% buff?

[scarlet flame]

yeah when you use it all juiced up and it doesn't crit

[mild thunder]

what you're saying just doesnt make sense bruh

[scarlet flame]

what im saying is you think the buffs weren't big but they were

[fickle forge]

Rn if you're cloth or leather you can't face tank warrior

And that's good Imo

[mild thunder]

the buffs were good, but they wouldnt be enough to make a bottom tier spec a top tier spec like you're saying

because arms was never bottom tier

[scarlet flame]

is c tier bottom tier?

[mild thunder]

luckily arms wasnt a C tier spec

[scarlet flame]

sure bud

secret S tier spec max hitting 100k with all cds and buffs

[mild thunder]

did i say it was a secret S tier spec?

[scarlet flame]

doing 20k less sustained dps than any of the good melee specs

[mild thunder]

do you know what english is?

can you read?

do you have dementia?

[scarlet flame]

yes it was an A tier spec doing 20k less dps

[mild thunder]

or just an idiot?

[scarlet flame]

max hitting 100k

its utility makes up for doing no burst and no sustained damage

outlaw was actually good before they buffed it because of all its CC potential

[mild thunder]

do you think arms is top tier rn because of its damage?

[scarlet flame]

i think its damage buff made it top tier now

[fickle forge]

Pre or post buff, arms had the major positive of being nigh unkillable

[scarlet flame]

if all you have is utility and MS you aren't a good spec

[mild thunder]

or because it's already a decent spec that brings intervene, rally, disarm, duel, banner, tons of passive tankiness and the ability to become virtually unpeelable

[scarlet flame]

you brought arms because it was a 50% MS and made your team tanky

now you bring it because it does the same thing but does damage

🤔

[mild thunder]

yep, it was already fine

and it got better

wow

[scarlet flame]

yup totally fine

\

doing no damage

[mild thunder]

when you have all this, you're never a bad spec

[scarlet flame]

being a support class on warrior feels so good very smart

[mild thunder]

ohhhh so now it's about "feeling good"

zzzzzz

[scarlet flame]

yes because literally not mattering at all

throught all the match

you dont have to actually do anything but hit sharpen on your teammates CDS

very good spec

great idea

who would have thought that people say the spec is dogshit when you feel like you do literally nothing

crazy concept

[mild thunder]

idgaf about how people feel, i was talking about how the spec actually is

[scarlet flame]

outlaw mains sayin the same thing even tho they have disarm blind kidney cheap smokebomb

[mild thunder]

can you stick to one position please

[scarlet flame]

what you think the spec actually is and what other people think the spec actually is are different

[mild thunder]

being a utility bot that's unkillable might not be fun, but it's very good

[scarlet flame]

sure its good

[mild thunder]

you realise even right now arms damage isnt really top-tier, right?

[scarlet flame]

its so good every warrior said it was trash

yeah its not top tier, its also not dogshit

[mild thunder]

warrior mains wanting their class to be S tier was kinda my point bro

[scarlet flame]

warrior mains not wanting to be utility bots is my point bro

outlaw out here with the sam utility bitching about not killing anyone exactly the same as warriors saying their class sucked dick too

then it gets buffed by 9% and played in awc

[sharp meteor]

Mortal Strike needs to do 30% more damage. I am unbiased.

[mild thunder]

this has nothing to do with my point

[scarlet flame]

mortal strike doesn't have to do more damage

[mild thunder]

what they want is not germane to whether what they already are is strong or not

[scarlet flame]

and what you think doesn't matter to everyone else whos bitching about their class

what you consider strong and what the people bitching consider strong are clearly not the same thing

[mild thunder]

if it doesnt matter, stop crying about what im saying lmao

[scarlet flame]

im crying about you because you're literally bitching about them bitching just as much but dont see the irony at all

you bitch more about warriors bitching than warriors have been bitching in here

[mild thunder]

because i was memeing with artji and karg?

ok lil bro

[scarlet flame]

right

[mild thunder]

go back to bg3

[scarlet flame]

im playing starfield now

[delicate parrot]

mood

[scarlet flame]

bg3 fun for 1 playthrough then its exactly the same

[mild thunder]

can you handle non-turn-based games?

[scarlet flame]

is starfield a turn based game?

[delicate parrot]

yes

[scarlet flame]

weird

[delicate parrot]

literal dialogue simulator

every Bethesda game ever

[scarlet flame]

you do too many quests

[delicate parrot]

you don’t play it for the combat because it’s not that great tbh

[scarlet flame]

i play it for the loot farming

[delicate parrot]

Starfield 76

[scarlet flame]

this is the first bethesda game i've played so no prior bias

[delicate parrot]

definitely one of the better titles as far as stability on release

[mighty trellis]

ah yes such a good matching set bliz, iconic weapon

[mild thunder]

At least this is a legitimate complaint

Better than half the complaints about starfield

[delicate parrot]

don’t get me wrong I love the game and have like 60hrs played since release

[scarlet flame]

if you go into it expecting fps combat idk what to tell you some of them are crazy

[delicate parrot]

the gunplay is far better than fo4 that’s for sure

[scarlet flame]

its okay, its not trash but its not amazing either

[delicate parrot]

it’s a little more action and that’s okay

but I mean it gets a lot better once you get the space dragon shouts

[scarlet flame]

a lot of the things id complain about are ui related or some things that are just annoying or dont make sense

[delicate parrot]

oh yeah the ui is actually horrid

[scarlet flame]

why are things you pick up listed at selling for 10k but actually vendor for 1k

its not 10k value if you sell it to vendors for 1k

[delicate parrot]

That mod StarUI is insane how much QoL it brings

[scarlet flame]

i have a gun thats listed as 147k

and i can sell it for 16k

[delicate parrot]

oh yeah they bait you by that for sure

[scarlet flame]

that literally makes no sense to me just have it listed at 16k lmao

[delicate parrot]

I was hoarding junk for the first 2 hours just to find out it sells for 10%

[scarlet flame]

i dont even care that it sells for nothing, just have it listed from rip as nothing

[delicate parrot]

yeah, your commerce skill should reflect what it’s actually worth before you get to the vendor

kinda baity

[scarlet flame]

like my current ship is listed at like 1.3m but it sells for 190k

you also can't tell how much a ship will sell for either

[delicate parrot]

man the ship building was what saved the game for me

[scarlet flame]

you can't take a ship and register it without making it your home ship

nah ship building has a ton of issues too

everything is made for controller so all of the pc controlls are trash

[delicate parrot]

OH

[scarlet flame]

if you have 1 thing not connected out of 20000 parts it wont tell you what part is not connected

[delicate parrot]

I’m on console so that makes sense why I like it

Oh you just select all

And what isn’t red is it

[scarlet flame]

i dont know what select all is because theres no ui indicating what that is

and there isn't a keybind for it either

[delicate parrot]

oh hell yeah

that tracks for Bethesda vs PC gang

“Y’all have mods fix it yourself”

[scarlet flame]

ship building is still really fun which says a lot

also you can't increase your ship size without modding which the game takes as cheating

[delicate parrot]

I’m sure after time there will be fixes, the kidding community are the actual post release devs

[scarlet flame]

i think the absolute worst thing i had to get over was literally every building was reused

[delicate parrot]

all the procgen dungeons are trash I hate them

[scarlet flame]

every single barracks is the same, every cryo lab is the same, every research lab is the same

i dont care that they're procgen

[delicate parrot]

or you mean the hab modules or whatever

[scarlet flame]

i cared that they were the exact same layouts

down to where item spawns

like if you get one place, in the like scientist bedrooms

[delicate parrot]

Oh YES ok

[scarlet flame]

theres a fridge that has 4 pens lined up into an M and an empty tea can

[delicate parrot]

totally agree with that

[scarlet flame]

its in every single one

on 1000 different planets

i got over it cause in reality it doesn't matter that much

[delicate parrot]

I believe there was a mod for Skyrim that let you place items in your house and it would save their positions

[scarlet flame]

but it really sucked the fun out of exploring when everything was exactly the same no matter where you went

[delicate parrot]

people speculate something like that may come for ships

[scarlet flame]

they have some stuff already

but if you do anything ship related

[delicate parrot]

so decorating may be a possibility

[scarlet flame]

everything is added back to your ship cargo

[delicate parrot]

Yeah bye bye

[scarlet flame]

even if you dump it out btw

if you have 40 20kg weights in your ship and you dump it out

[delicate parrot]

mfw I have 30 dumbbells in my cargo wondering what is taking up space

[scarlet flame]

if you change 1 single window that shit is magically back

[delicate parrot]

holy shit I didn’t know that worked like that

[mild thunder]

any and all gunplay is immediately better than uncharted and rdr2

[delicate parrot]

I actually liked rdr2 gunplay

[scarlet flame]

the game is really good, i have 220 hours on it and ive liked it for the majority

[delicate parrot]

[mild thunder]

capo

cap

[delicate parrot]

[scarlet flame]

also what really bothered me was vendors having like 5k credits

why does the MAST distributor have 5k credits

why does the trade alliance have 11k

[delicate parrot]

to incentivize actual item trading

I hate it but it’s what they want

[scarlet flame]

you're telling me every business in the largest city of the entire galaxy has like 50k credits

[delicate parrot]

unimmersive af for sure

[scarlet flame]

the problem with that is if you dont sell 40k worth of ammo you literally can't sell some weapons

you're telling me that the gun store can't buy more than 1 single white gun

[delicate parrot]

yeah along with buying bullshit you don’t need

[scarlet flame]

but at the same time

their white guns with no mods are 150k

????

[delicate parrot]

“got 98 med packs but I could use 30 more so I can sell shit”

[scarlet flame]

but i sell the same exact gun for 2785 credits

[delicate parrot]

Oh yeah feels awesome to buy a white gun that I haven’t tried for 20k

then vendor it back for 1.2

[scarlet flame]

and somehow this t1 item is more expensive than the same exact item thats t4

[delicate parrot]

the crafting is actual trash

[scarlet flame]

there is no way to know what increases prices

[delicate parrot]

let’s not even get started on that

[scarlet flame]

you have some random untiered item selling for 10k more credits than a legendary t4 item fully modded

[delicate parrot]

pumping all my skills into research and mod stuff and still can’t make shit because the game won’t tell me what needs what for what

[scarlet flame]

you can track stuff

[delicate parrot]

literal just lack of info that is solved by trial and error

[scarlet flame]

but its not specific

[delicate parrot]

no I know but I mean the like outpost stuff

[scarlet flame]

and its the entire recipe not just 1 if you need only 1 left

[delicate parrot]

like I wish I could remember WHY it tracking tungsten

[scarlet flame]

you know what really sucks

outposts aren't even useful

they are 100% just for immersion or like cheese leveling

[delicate parrot]

Yeah I discovered that the hard way

[scarlet flame]

i love the outpost stuff

[delicate parrot]

that wasn’t the case in fallout

[scarlet flame]

but its better to just reload vendors on a bench and buy their shit than build an outpost

[delicate parrot]

it was an actual base of operations you could store shit in and craft from the chests

why is the transfer pad my main source of item storage

[scarlet flame]

i know people been bitching about like voice acting and the amount of talking

but idk what the fuck they're on the VA is actually insane

[delicate parrot]

why are the warehouse containers 60/60 when full

I can’t hoard SHIT

[scarlet flame]

why can the warehouse container only hold 100kg of iron

[delicate parrot]

I’ve heard of wonky shit with the cargo links too

[scarlet flame]

overall the games really good as a story game

[delicate parrot]

entire outposts being bricked because of 1 container being full or something

[scarlet flame]

yeah i've heard that too

[delicate parrot]

yeah they just went a little crazy with the extra shit tbh

[scarlet flame]

the extra shit they just didn't finish

[delicate parrot]

like trying to make it NMS style optional

[scarlet flame]

what is nms

[delicate parrot]

all the scanning stuff is cool but like why

No Man’s Sky

[scarlet flame]

ahh

the scanning stuff is really cool but theres like

no info on it

[delicate parrot]

surveying flora/fauna

[scarlet flame]

like for terrormorphs

[delicate parrot]

it’s cool in NMS because the shit is procgen so you can see some wild stuff

[scarlet flame]

it tells you they're fearless, in like 4 biomes, and they give you 1 item

thats it

it doesn't tell you like weight, or hight nothing else

not its prey, not its home planet literally nothing cool

[delicate parrot]

I never realized that, that’s pretty lazy

definitely was an afterthought

[scarlet flame]

just that its going to attack you on sight, its in 3 biomes, and gives you like fiber or some shit

and its hp

but its hp scales with difficulty and it doesn't change on th scan

so on very easy it says 1k hp but on very hard it also says 1k hp

[delicate parrot]

oh yeah the hidden level brackets for shit is another thing that’s wonky af

[scarlet flame]

and it doesnt' list damage resistance even tho all aliens take less damage from balistics

and it doesn't list abilities

even tho terrormorphs can dig underground

and have ranged attacks

it also doesn't tell you that they're rare spawns

[delicate parrot]

Surely will be fixed by mods

[scarlet flame]

idk im level 79 and i dont have any points at all in the zoology skill so maybe that changes it

but i doubt it

[delicate parrot]

Iirc there’s been modders in the past that get hired by Bethesda because of how good their work is

or they compensate them or something idr

[scarlet flame]

they went for a bunch of shit to make the game immersive but by doing that they actually made it less immersive

[delicate parrot]

my biggest gripe is not being able to transition to space without a cutscene

[scarlet flame]

btw for outposts

on the veins in the ground

[delicate parrot]

in NMS you take off and full boost to break atmosphere and get into orbit

[scarlet flame]

you can put more than 1 extractor on it

[delicate parrot]

no load screen

[scarlet flame]

in no part of the help section or the tutorial sections does it tell you that

[delicate parrot]

you mean like helium vents?

[scarlet flame]

iirc thats engine related

i mean on literally any resource in the ground

you can put more than 1 on it

but it doesn't tell you that anywhere

[delicate parrot]

oh yeah I discovered that by… TRIAL AND ERROR

the fucking actual game

[scarlet flame]

i only learned that by watching a video

[delicate parrot]

Yeah I did that and realized what’s the fucking point

if everything gets full 10 mins later

[scarlet flame]

the idea is you make actually massive outposts and link them all together

[delicate parrot]

it’s like you didn’t want you to just dabble in outposts, you have to full commit

[scarlet flame]

and honestly i really like the outpost stuff

i also really like boarding ships

[delicate parrot]

yes

[scarlet flame]

but keeping the ships

and selling them

is total cancer

[delicate parrot]

are you the Mantis also?

[scarlet flame]

i did the quest if thats what you're asking

but the ship is dogshit compared to the one i have rn

and the suit is trash too

[delicate parrot]

that’s too bad, you do it early and I’m pretty sure it’s the best A class

but you get cool dialogue when flying it and random events

[scarlet flame]

well i knew leveling the ship skill was the most important

so i think by like level 11 i had class c unlocked

[delicate parrot]

did you use the ship sim?

[scarlet flame]

and i had a class c ship really really early

idk what that is

i just bought the uhh

[delicate parrot]

the vanguard ship simulator

[scarlet flame]

shit i forgot the name

nah

i flew around and killed people

i took the wanted trait so i had more ships than if you didnt

[delicate parrot]

people spend an hour in the simulator and get level 4 piloting

I like your method 100x better

[scarlet flame]

yeah i found that out after i had already got level 4

[delicate parrot]

actual big brain

let them come to you amirite

[scarlet flame]

but i bought some b class ship really early for like 250k and have been upgrading it

if i was going to do another playthrough id actually not waste any points in the combat tree until way later

and just fully kit out the ship skills

[delicate parrot]

the modules locked behind starship design are just better in every way right

[scarlet flame]

sometimes yeah

but you also unlock this via character level

you unlock everything by like level 65 i think

[delicate parrot]

ah ok yeah

[scarlet flame]

also if you didnt know

when you're in ship builder

and you do upgrade instead of build

if you go to weapons the weapon data shown equals the amount of them you have on your ship

so for example if you have 2 balistic weapons

if you upgrade those 2 its showing you the total damage those 2 will do no matter what you upgrade to

so lets say you have 2 rail guns that do 50 damage ea, the listed damage will be 100 because you have 2

and if you upgrade something its showing you the combined damage of both no matter what you upgrade to

even if you change it to lazer or particle or missles

[delicate parrot]

that’s fucking dumb

[scarlet flame]

i thought i was buying missles that were doing 800 damage ea

[delicate parrot]

wtf

[scarlet flame]

but it was 260 damage for 3 turrets

so when the missles weren't 1 shotting ships i got confused lmao

[delicate parrot]

yeah no shit

me 2

[scarlet flame]

theres some more stuff like engines that are truley insane

i think my ship rn has 10k cargo and 89 mobility

its got like 3.5k mass

[delicate parrot]

need

[scarlet flame]

you can get reactors that go up to 40 + the skill in tech that gives you like 8 extra power

the payloads skill is also insane

[delicate parrot]

yeah I maxed that and weightlifting real quick

[scarlet flame]

i haven't maxed payloads yet

im only on t2

[delicate parrot]

well you’re also not flying a B class at level 30

[scarlet flame]

yeah i was flying a b class at level 12 lol

ive had the same ship since level 12 just upgraded

i've spent like

8m credits on it

[delicate parrot]

level commerce asap

[scarlet flame]

its maxed already

[delicate parrot]

god that’s a lot of credits

[delicate parrot]

em and missiles

a man of culture I see

[scarlet flame]

em missles and particles

[delicate parrot]

particles are just too op

I feel like using anything else is bad

[scarlet flame]

if i dump all the grav power i can have everything else basically maxed

[delicate parrot]

that’s the move

[scarlet flame]

i found that a while ago

idk if ill ever replace it

[delicate parrot]

are you on ng+

[scarlet flame]

nah im not gunna do it

cba building my ship again

[delicate parrot]

I didn’t realize suits like that could drop in first playthrough

so shit does scale to you eventually

[scarlet flame]

the ng+ suit is trash

i haven't found a good weapon yet

[delicate parrot]

everything I’ve found is dogshit

[scarlet flame]

ive seen some level 12s with 1k damage weapons

[delicate parrot]

literally made of scraps

[scarlet flame]

and ive never had one drop for me

[delicate parrot]

what the fuck

[scarlet flame]

these are mine atm

[delicate parrot]

That Beowulf is insane

[scarlet flame]

its alright

it only had 30 mag size and you can't increase it

[delicate parrot]

[scarlet flame]

unless you get extended mag enhancement drop

this thing is honestly a beast

[delicate parrot]

that’s nifty

[scarlet flame]

berserk mod is trash

btw

its your suit and shit armor

[delicate parrot]

oh it’s auto

[scarlet flame]

yeah

if you want single shot go for hard target or lawgiver

its dps is bad but with sneak attack bonus this thing hits for 1.7k

[delicate parrot]

oh yeah that’s a juicer

instigating explosive depleted uranium

[scarlet flame]

also accuracy is a weird stat

[delicate parrot]

yeah it is

[scarlet flame]

for full auto you can just straight up miss shots even if you're on target

but for single shot i dont think it matters at all

i think on weapons shattering and rapid are the best enhancements you can get

the dot stuff is ok

hitmans is good too

[delicate parrot]

everything probably feels like a bullet sponge because I have 2 points in combat

[scarlet flame]

furious is trash

it feels like a bullet sponge because enemies get +20 base hp per level

[delicate parrot]

all the damage skills are so boring

[scarlet flame]

they're insane tho

[delicate parrot]

another product of fo4 skill tree

[scarlet flame]

idk anything about em or particle or whatever

but balistics are great

[delicate parrot]

I mainly use Big Bang

[scarlet flame]

first point in reload is just 30% faster reloads

[delicate parrot]

[scarlet flame]

not a fan of the non balistics weapons tbh lol

[delicate parrot]

the lasers are great for zero g before you get skills for ballistics

[scarlet flame]

i hate zero g because my single shot and shotguns literally throw me around like a baby

[delicate parrot]

I was so hype the first time I fired my maelstrom in zero g

using it to go backwards into cover

[scarlet flame]

yeah those are cool times

but when you fly back 20 feet from a sniper shot its annoying

[delicate parrot]

what is that really how that works

[scarlet flame]

yeah

[delicate parrot]

I can go FARTHER?

[scarlet flame]

yeah if you use hard target or the magsniper you can get throw back so far

same with shotgun

[delicate parrot]

[scarlet flame]

this thing is stupid as fuck

[delicate parrot]

Does the shotgun type matter?

[scarlet flame]

ive only used shotty and pacifier

[delicate parrot]

I like pacifier a lot

[scarlet flame]

my pacifier is slug gun and shotty is as you can see flachette

also if you didn't know

there is no limit to bullet range

on shotguns or anything

i tested it on this random planet and hit a guy like 800km out with a flechette round

[delicate parrot]

The range is just damage falloff?

[scarlet flame]

and there is no travel time either

nah no damage falloff either

[delicate parrot]

what the fuck

[scarlet flame]

the shotty does 6 damage per pellet

and it does 6 damage if im point blank or literally 800km out

[delicate parrot]

so wtf does the range stat do

[scarlet flame]

there is no travel time either its hitscan

i have no clue

[delicate parrot]

[scarlet flame]

i tested with slug rounds

its hitscan for all balistics

so if you shoot at something point blank or forever away the damage is instant

there is no drop either

[delicate parrot]

ok that’s cool but why can’t I hit the spacer 10ft away with my auto rivet

[scarlet flame]

because its a heavy gun you cant actually aim

that shit fires a fuckin screw lmfao

you can get them stuck in glass and see them

[delicate parrot]

was pretty excited to see it the first time

[scarlet flame]

its pretty dogshit

[delicate parrot]

madly disappointed in record time

[scarlet flame]

the micro gun on the other hand

now that there is a weapon

you can get one with explosive rounds btw

[delicate parrot]

pretty sure the auto rivet is just a shitty callback to the railway rifle for fans

yeah I think I’m too low to see those in the world

[scarlet flame]

this mfer can have explosive rounds

[delicate parrot]

The only one I saw was during the vanguard quest where you defend the spaceport, one of the squad members had one that I could pickpocket

[scarlet flame]

if you complete it you get a micro gun and some armor for free

[delicate parrot]

actual pro thief if you pickpocket a microgun

[scarlet flame]

and its honestly pretty decent armor

[delicate parrot]

that’s good to know, I was getting bored with it up to that point

[scarlet flame]

its a really great quest

honestly its probably my favorite quest

also im not sure which is better depleted uranium or ap rounds

[delicate parrot]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Starfield/comments/16aj0aw/every_ship_in_the_system_randomly_started/?utm_source=embedv2&utm_medium=post_embed&utm_content=post_title&embed_host_url=https://www.pcgamer.com/starfield-player-can-only-watch-in-stoic-horror-as-every-ship-in-the-system-attacks-a-staryard-which-is-probably-invincible/&rdt=38722

this when for real

we have the technology

[scarlet flame]

i haven't seen that yet haha

i haven't had any weird bugs

ive had some floating rocks but thats about it

[delicate parrot]

it’s bugs like this that brick your game but make it worth

[scarlet flame]

also for gun mods

stay away from the recon stuff

its so fucking annoying

[delicate parrot]

holy shit is that what that thermal crap is

[scarlet flame]

it will thermo some people but you can't tell if they're behind cover

[delicate parrot]

goddamn

I thought I took some skill and fucked up my character

[scarlet flame]

i thought it was good but its so annoying

[delicate parrot]

yes it is

[scarlet flame]

and it does actually nothing

[delicate parrot]

now I know how to get rid of it

[scarlet flame]

other than light up 1 person

[delicate parrot]

No, literally what you said

It obstructs your vision so much

[scarlet flame]

its not even reliable

you can aim straight as someone and it doesn't light them up

[delicate parrot]

yeah I just see it happen randomly and was wondering wtf it was

[scarlet flame]

but if you aim near a guy it lights him up no problem

[delicate parrot]

because I’m a shitter and use like 4 different guns I never could tell what was doing it

[scarlet flame]

straight asshole

i have 9 guns bro

also if you were wondering

the hard target takes 50 cal caseless

not 50 cal mi array

[delicate parrot]

I really like the mag guns

[scarlet flame]

lawgiver takes the same as hard target

i fucking hate them

[delicate parrot]

[scarlet flame]

they look so retarded

[delicate parrot]

I like how the lasers change color

but yeah they look like actual fallout weapons

some shoddily constructed device made from scrap

[scarlet flame]

you know about follower stuff right

if you give them 1 grenade they can spam it

[delicate parrot]

LOL

I knew about guns not using ammo

[scarlet flame]

and they also only need 1 ammo for a gun

[delicate parrot]

Never considered handing them a nade

[scarlet flame]

if you take away their weapons and give them 1 impact nade they spam the shit out of it

[delicate parrot]

Don’t you not get xp if they kill something and you don’t tag it tho

K

[scarlet flame]

this skill is broken too

[scarlet flame]

no clue

never noticed it if they didn't give xp

this last part of the skill could be good

but i haven't tested it out

and theres no place to find out what their skills actually give you btw

[delicate parrot]

oh man we’re venturing into mass effect garrus god mode territory

[scarlet flame]

idk if there is a place but i haven't found it

[delicate parrot]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPbB4qfsA14

quick clip of what I’m referring to

why play the game when you can make your companions do it for you ?

[scarlet flame]

yeah your followers do good damage too

if you give them a good gun they do op damage for no ammo

[delicate parrot]

I’m positive you can do what’s being done in that clip after what you just shared with me

[scarlet flame]

you dont even need that last perk

[delicate parrot]

yeah just a good heavy lego

[scarlet flame]

andreja was literally mowing down terrormorphs with some blue AA-99 i gave her

at like level 80

she could solo them

[delicate parrot]

isn’t her bonus particles

[scarlet flame]

yup

okay heres the first weird bug i've had

vasco just chilling on the hood of my ship in space

this is the gun i gave her

[delicate parrot]

more proof of this being an actual Bethesda title

[hot solstice]

Is there any way to get corrupted ashbringer nowadays?

[fallen solar]

Do they allow loud laughing in Hawaii? Or just a low ha.

[sharp meteor]

There isn't, or at least not a known way.

[mild thunder]

nope

[sharp meteor]

Aside from buying/merging another account, which is not allowed.

[hot solstice]

almost got b8ted by "get full t3 mog on any class"

[mild thunder]

legend says if you send 10M gold to Galachad-Jubei'thos, the corrupted ashbringer will be summoned into your bags

[sharp meteor]

You can craft t3, and most naxx weps. Just...not ashrbringer.

[hot solstice]

ye got my t3 for 3 mill crafted

[mild thunder]

when does day of da dead start

[hot solstice]

disgrace to Gala community

well he could have been aug

[delicate parrot]

where his ret dam

[mild thunder]

not one of us

also ye how do you do 30k dps as ret bruh

[hot solstice]

not anymore?

[mild thunder]

the Gala army is warriors and survival hunters only

[thick reef]

Surv

Bruh

[hot solstice]

guess they will make more exceptions in nearest future

[mild thunder]

sv is a chad spec bruh 🙏

[hot solstice]

[mild thunder]

bicmex plays it so it's okay

[thick reef]

Just wait for galachad to reroll to Rogue

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

i was gonna raid on assa next tier but now i'll have to change

[thick reef]

Mans about to do a rogue opener like he lives in the UK

[mild thunder]

ive thought about picking up spri for pvp, or some other caster like lock

[thick reef]

Lock

Bro, you like being in a wheelchair?

[mild thunder]

well everything that i potentially play in arena has to work with feral, since my partner refuses to play literally anything else

and feral/lock kinda fucks

[fallen estuary]

real tawk

does thunderfury work in 70s pvp

[sharp meteor]

[fallen estuary]

dawg no joke 20% reduced attack speed is actually kinda busted

especially in a melee lobby

spamming the effect like aids and slowing them

[sharp meteor]

Just don't. No. Down. Bad.

[fallen estuary]

fistweaver market drops with that 20%

idk bro

i wanna try it

[sharp meteor]

I think 447 crafted wep with fang adornment might be good.

Do not play thunderfury.

[fallen estuary]

fang adornment?

tf is that

[sharp meteor]

Embellishment that does damage.

[fallen estuary]

i still have my atlasloot from legion

im not upto date

cant scale it to 450

not rocking that

[balmy solar]

is battle trance even worth it in arena with annihilator? don't feel like I'm sitting on a target long enough for it to even proc

[fallen solar]

Y’all hear about the circus fire?

It was intense

[fallen estuary]

DAWG LMAO

[fallen solar]

What do you call a can opener that’s broken?

A can’t opener.

[fallen estuary]

no some dude posted some vile fucking porn in the channel

3 back to back FUCKING caster lobbies

dawg holy shit its never ending

warlock, mage, balance

Warlock, aff, shadow

Aff, balance, arcane mage

[limber relic]

Locks r ezclap

[mild thunder]

warrior counters lock

[fallen estuary]

im prot

thats the problem

when a normal chaos bolt does 150k usually to people but does like 290-300+ to me in a cleave its tough asf

spell block only blocks like 20% of that but once it falls off its a 2 min CD for spellblock

i get cleaved regardless

[limber relic]

Prot

[fickle forge]

Deserved for maining prot

[fickle forge]

The way to play vs lock is to respec arms and collect the free elo

[limber relic]

Dis.

I gotta love reflecting coil. Locks are so damn predictable

[limber relic]

This shit for 50k gold? Wat

[mild thunder]

Hey look!!! ItS A Rogue!! ahahhaa! I think hes being to agressive lets try to punish him ahahaha!!!
Doing big dam to punish!!!
Jk vanish hahahahah!

Ok doing big dam to punish him hahaha!!!
Jk evasion! Ahahahahaha

Ok ok doing big dam to punish him for real this time!!!
Jk cloak that gives evasion at same time Hahahahah!!!

Ok this time were gonna punish his over agression for sure!!!
Jk vanish hahahahah!

Ok this time were gonna punish his over agression for sure!!!
Jk meld vanish hahahahah!

Ok ok ok we need to kill him in a stun guys.
Stop trying to go on rogue outside of stuns! We look foolish!
Stormbolting him here BIG DAM BIG DAM KILL KILL!!!
JK cheat death!!!
Vanish off that!! hahahahahaha how does he have vanish back already?!?!

JK HE GETS CDR ON VANISH AHAHAHAHA

Ok try to kill him again this time we got it!!!
hes getting low he might die!!!
Jk shadowy duels our healer and runs away hahahaahahaha !

Oh hey… our healer died in that duel what the heck?! HAHAHAHAHA

Hey team dont go on the sub rogue again no matter how over agressive he becomes hahahah hes an unkillable freak hahaha!

[pure hornet]

Dafq

[fickle forge]

Link the forum post

[mild thunder]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/sub-rogue-hahahaha-sub-rogue-hahaha-sub-rogue-hahaa/1611170

[proven sluice]

Anybody can tell me how I get something like this (health and anger bar)? I thought its the show personal resources setting, but nothing happens when I check it in the WoW settings

[wheat jay]

Sub not even that good rn

[wheat jay]

Go into combat

Should work then

[proven sluice]

It worked on my feral alt, but not on my warrior main, super strange

[mild thunder]

real

mid spec

[mild thunder]

it is the personal resource bar

what are you checking and unchecking?

[neon jackal]

what can i do as arm vs dk unholy ?

[mild thunder]

press w

pump dmg

dont play with a priest

[neon jackal]

so its kinda whos wil outburst ?

[mild thunder]

eh, more about W keying harder and trying to immune/avoid the cc on their go

is this 2s, 3s or shuffle?

[neon jackal]

shuffle, and what is W ?

i thought i could fear pet..

[mild thunder]

W key = playing aggressive

[neon jackal]

ok

[mild thunder]

and no iirc you cant fear uhdk pet because they're all undead

if you're playing shuffle, wait for the dk to grip your healer in and bladestorm and banner straight away so you can immune the blind and mitigate the cc on your healer

then just intervene and peel for your teammates, disarm + stun etc.

outside of that, just play aggressive and pump dmg

[neon jackal]

ty

[proven sluice]

Personal resource bar in the settings, if i check it and go in combat its there on my feral. If I do exactly the same on my warrior, nothing happens

[mild thunder]

id have to see a screenshot, because what you're showing is definitely the personal resource bar

[proven sluice]

Okay I'll do it when im at home (1h)

[mild thunder]

np

[neon jackal]

i know how to remove ur bar if that what u want

[proven sluice]

Na I want to activate it, thats the thing 😄 Im gonna send some screenshots

[proven sluice]

Yes I know the setting, its not working for me, maybe its because of an addon

Need to check that

Ty for your help btw

[sterile vector]

@elfin surge 🙂

[mild thunder]

@elfin surge 🙂

[quaint osprey]

why does the Glad Mount not award a Achievement this Season

[wheat jay]

You get glad but not named glad

[sharp meteor]

Idk why they removed the glad achi from the arena section.

It was neat to be able to just click that to track wins instead of grabbing script.

[fickle forge]

First ever recorded Shockwave kill

[frank knoll]

Nice

I wish the aftershock talent was good

Ancient Aftershock was fun

[neon plover]

Are any crafted pieces like the sporecloak worth using or just go double shadowflame?

[quaint osprey]

i mean the Achievement you get from learning the Mount

its not in the game for the slitherdrake

not there

[wheat jay]

Shit mount doesn't deserve achiev

[green wyvern]

Real

[quaint osprey]

they gave the gronnlings and shadowlands mounts the Achievement

so that rule aint count

[fickle forge]

@mild thunder I've dropped Massacre in my Spear build

[limber relic]

i love it

[fickle forge]

Pain

[limber relic]

i pref heroic throw kill

[fickle forge]

Only cause you too weak to kill with Strongwave

[limber relic]

i rather snipe someone from afar with heroic throw than shockwave melee and kill :x

[fickle forge]

Average Seif L take smh

[sharp meteor]

I've had it hit for like 140-180k.

[limber relic]

avg 1500 kargish smh

[fickle forge]

Do you inflate me 200 cr per week?

[limber relic]

yeah im kind like that

[fickle forge]

When am I watching your category turn into the top category huh?

[green wyvern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1153693747570294876/caption-1.gif

[green anchor]

angery worriya

[eager lake]

are yall still using unhinged or is hurricane better now in 2s?

[tribal wedge]

depends on match up, i won't run unhinged against UH dk, and i do'nt like playing hurricane against mage

[eager lake]

hmmm ok, thanks

[fickle forge]

Neither

Skip it

[eager lake]

whats the good stuff now?

seen ppl running them in murlok.io

[limber relic]

dont take advice from 1550 warri

[fickle forge]

Is man really playing Unhinged

Truly unhinged IRL

[limber relic]

Hurricane>unhinged

[fickle forge]

'Sorry bro, couldn't Intervene you cause I couldn't cancel BS 🤓'

[wheat jay]

Reminded me of "shit i intervened wrong target"

[limber relic]

reminded me of 1550

[fickle forge]

Eventually I am a rank 1 Taiwain player in Seif's mind

[lavish quest]

Wait. What's intervene?

[limber relic]

Ofc

[wheat jay]

5k cr 100% winrate?

[fickle forge]

[limber relic]

No. Boosted

[wheat jay]

Aren't you playing ret/warr?

[lavish quest]

This is ret/war's performance from what people tell me?

[fickle forge]

Why isn't Seif 5k yet then?

[wheat jay]

Glad ret/warr = anything else 1600

[limber relic]

"I dont wna get glad with ret/warr cuz its too ez 🤓" - 1500 players

[lavish quest]

🤷‍♂️ I don't really 3s. I should be though. Hoping to hop into it.

When I find a ret paladin from what it sounds like 😈

😂

[ancient sonnet]

Looking a bit better:

[lavish quest]

But they fucked the boots up. So the arms were trash in the video, boots were decent. Now they fixed the arms, and broke the feet for some reason???

[green wyvern]

its not fully implemented on wowhead

check ptr

[ancient sonnet]

Probably more work still to be done yea

[atomic orchid]

Looks better than S1

[fathom aspen]

Warrior set legs always looking like "I had some foam blocks lying around so I glued them to my pants"

[fickle forge]

Hmmmmm

[wheat jay]

Like, I respect glad, but ret/warr is kinda ez mode

Not dissing you or anything

Its just busted, if given a choice id do the same

Sadly Kargish is the warrior in my group and I aint playing ret xD

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/tirionfordring-gif-27442400

Put your faith in the light. Lol

[limber relic]

Aug+ww/uhdh/arms/feral ect ect is way easier

[thick reef]

What about Aug/War?

[limber relic]

Boomie ele
Boomie dh
Boomie mage
Boomie lock
Mage lock

[fickle forge]

Nah dude let's be real

ret+warr is definitely the easiest and most broken warr comp rn

[limber relic]

For warr yes ofc.

[fickle forge]

Taking any comp to glad+ is respectable, but ret+warr is just near foolproof

Out of most comps

Not many comps that are simpler

[limber relic]

Aug warr is easier

[thick reef]

Aug/Prot

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-the-cap-cap-laugh-video-reaction-youtuber-gif-18293251

[limber relic]

Rly

[fickle forge]

Go back to #fury weakling smh

[wheat jay]

ret/warr is objectively best warr comp, and arguably best comp in the game as of now

still, glad is respectable and not easy regardless of a comp

[limber relic]

I think aug + x is easier but ye

[wheat jay]

not saying easier, but stronger

[fickle forge]

I mean if you think so, but ret+warr is really hard to mess up

Only time that comp required any form of thinking was when you had to cross CC SB and HoJ

[wheat jay]

2400+ both NA and EU

[atomic orchid]

Wait you’re not supposed to anymore?

[wheat jay]

don't need to

why waste globals on CC when you can do more dmg

[delicate parrot]

me training the healer in shuffle af

[wheat jay]

xD

[fickle forge]

Who cares if you can just SB+Shockwave

😎 👍

[limber relic]

So this means sp best caster rn

[wheat jay]

most represented above 2400

[limber relic]

Number 2 dps ingame sp

[wheat jay]

they also have players at 2800+

[limber relic]

Time to reroll

Like ive said before. Representation doesnt = op or not

[fickle forge]

Not objectively, but it matters a lot

It's not like any of us have anything to prove, ret+warr is just an easier comp than most and so be it really

Play what's META, it makes sense if you wanna climb

[wheat jay]

its also one of the strongest comps in the meta

noone is saying you're bad or anything

it is what it is, that's all

[limber relic]

Not saying it. Ret warr is strong and pretty simple but far from the strongest or easiest comp

[thick reef]

Just returned to the game how bad is fury these days ? Looking to give that shuffle a try

[wheat jay]

stop the cap

[fickle forge]

Ret+warr has barely any setup

You pump damage and rotate defensives

[wheat jay]

one of the easiest comps in the game

[fickle forge]

Win on damp

[tribal wedge]

not bad, it's fine

[wheat jay]

one of the strongest comps in the game

[limber relic]

Does aug+x have any?

[fickle forge]

Aug at least casts CC 🤷‍♂️

[limber relic]

So warr/ret do 0 cc?

[fickle forge]

Not casted no

Turbo at least casts Hex as well

[thick reef]

Neat ! Thanks will need to duSt Off my arms too probly

[fickle forge]

Albeit pretty easy when you can SB+wave

[limber relic]

So just cuz u dont cast its not ez <.<

[fickle forge]

I mean

Bro

Is it easier to cast something and risk getting kicked

Or insta cast?

[limber relic]

Kick is 3s lockout

Kick does 0 rn

[fickle forge]

What

[wheat jay]

huh

bruh

you stupid

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cap-doctor-meme-gif-23263243

[delicate parrot]

[wheat jay]

kick stops cc chain

[limber relic]

Do u kick sleep or kick ebon?

[wheat jay]

cc chain is what kills people

[atomic orchid]

Fuck Augvoker no cap tho

[limber relic]

Kick sleep > cast ebon

skill

?

[fickle forge]

Ret+warr is like, one of the only comps that can bypass doing CC chains cause ret is ret and sharpen is sharpen

😎 👍

[wheat jay]

bro i can't believe we're actually having this conversation

man's confirming all the ret/warr stereotypes

[delicate parrot]

buff arms

[limber relic]

I wna see u play ret warr and see how far u go

🤓

Id kill to watch ngl

[wheat jay]

doing good enough playing kfc

[fickle forge]

I'd have to endure Artji's ret then

[wheat jay]

👍

[fickle forge]

[wheat jay]

that too lmao

bro imma do ret when kargish does fury

[limber relic]

[wheat jay]

@fickle forge HOW 'BOUT THAT BIATCH

[fickle forge]

Looks like we never ret+warr then

[wheat jay]

sadly

we tried

[limber relic]

I guess its 1500 hardstuck then 😭

Feelsbadman

[wheat jay]

nah

[limber relic]

Buff kfc

[wheat jay]

i believe we can manage 1700

[limber relic]

Damn im sorry my bad

[wheat jay]

nah dont worry

survi getting oneshot combo in 10.2

[limber relic]

Ok then youre op

[wheat jay]

[fickle forge]

Once I go 2.4k in 2s, Artji has maybe, perhaps, by small odds, managed to get a new job and he can play the fucking game again

[wheat jay]

ladder is not ready for us

we gonna make every streamer cry again

[limber relic]

I wna watch

[wheat jay]

maybe kargo has some saved games

fuck knows

squadov nuked most of our recordings 😦

[fickle forge]

SquadOV nuked everything

Only game I have left is my kitty cleave vs Cervantes and Sponks

[quaint osprey]

what is the site called?

[wheat jay]

checkpvp

[fickle forge]

Holy fuck man the hood is finally assembled?! @mild thunder

[wheat jay]

@limber relic 1800 fuck you

not 1500 hardstuck

[lavish quest]

Huh? Mine's higher that and I pug random shit and basically never do 3s?

[wheat jay]

ye cuz i didnt play much either xD

[fickle forge]

Artji hasn't played 3s in like 10 months

[wheat jay]

last time we queued was start of the season and we played against ppl like bicme xD

[limber relic]

Omg amazing. Wp

[wheat jay]

that's like 2700 ret/warr

[lavish quest]

Bicmex is at 1300?

[fickle forge]

Bicmex is 900

[wheat jay]

start of season, ye

[limber relic]

I mean ive played turbo, thundercleave, tsg all above 2300

2300 as boomie+arms+mw

[wheat jay]

@limber relic aight we can play against each other now

[lavish quest]

Photoshoped

[wheat jay]

;__;

@mild thunder u like?

[mild thunder]

Gigachad decision do it to protest against the dumb af animation

[mild thunder]

Bro is basically Bicmex.with those 180 disengages

[mild thunder]

The boys are back in town

[wheat jay]

My disengage game is pretty good ngl haha

[mild thunder]

Mine is pretty good but sometimes I’ll disengage and face plant into a pillar

[fickle forge]

190k without spear and OP stacks, it's pretty nasty

Mages get run over for sure

[wheat jay]

Lol

I love doing disengage into kick on healers

Mad juicy

Got some games recorded, can show you tomorrow if you want

By some I mean one

Maybe two xD

[mild thunder]

Most based warrior

[wheat jay]

Kargish complains about being kited

Kargish plays with me

100% uptime on mages

@fickle forge Artji diff

[mild thunder]

At least he doesn’t say ele is high mobility compared to warrior

[wheat jay]

Lmao true

We did have some games that felt hopeless not gonna lie

Balance ele

[fickle forge]

Stop, I had like 10% uptime on mages

But when I connected he died

It do be like that

[mild thunder]

Hardest games we’ve had are ret/warr and turbo

Caster comps are always pretty free for us

[fickle forge]

Glass cannon mages 100% just die

No hope of survival

Either they end us in 2 min or they lose

[fickle forge]

I saw a KFC run over the healer vs ret warr

Which I literally don't get how they could ever succeed with

[mild thunder]

We can do this if it’s hpala or rdru but they usually play with rsham

[wheat jay]

Tbh we did have some games where good freedom won us the game

[mild thunder]

I’d say like 80% of our games into rdru are won by healer swaps

[wheat jay]

Man next season gonna be fun

20% explosive shot buff

20% bomb dmg buff

Tier set being busted too

XD

[mild thunder]

Feign death nerf
It’s a good change overall, but it’s gonna take some getting used to

[fickle forge]

Ye, freedom on me matters a lot

If you don't need it to kite for yourself, or to get James out of root+beam then 100% for me

😎 👍

[wheat jay]

I freedomed you, 180 disengaged

And we got a kill today haha

[fickle forge]

Feign reducing damage for 3 sec is pretty nuts though

Hunter might be hard af to kill now

[wheat jay]

Tbh I prefer it over dispel

You dispel and get feared

Now you press it and you dont die for 3s

This before a stun is basically immunity for half of it

[fickle forge]

Wait bro they're bringing this shit back?

[wheat jay]

Why is it back?

Wtf xD