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scarlet flame
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casters just hate it when melee can touch them

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doesn't matter why or how

mild thunder
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having mage as it is now is a far more rewarding and skill-based design

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because mages had a billion shields and never took dmg

scarlet flame
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yeah idgaf its 10x more punishing to play bad as a warrior than a mage

mild thunder
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cap

scarlet flame
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nah

mild thunder
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that is just cap

scarlet flame
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nope

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if you dont connect you do 0 damage

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mages dps all the time

mild thunder
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warrior has some of the easiest, most beginner-friendly utility in the game

scarlet flame
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regardless of range

mild thunder
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with the most braindead, auto-pilot rotation

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super passively tanky to make up for mistakes

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tons of cc avoidance

scarlet flame
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that has nothing to do with something being more punishing with playing bad

mild thunder
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warrior is incredibly forgiving

scarlet flame
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if you play bad on a wariror it doesn't matter at all

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you do no damage, die instantly, and are a waste of space

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warrior might be forigiving into melee

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but a dogshit warrior vs any ranged class is so noticable its not even a joke

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they literally do nothing

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are a dps target dummy

mild thunder
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nahh, this is just warrior cope

scarlet flame
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its not lmao

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ive played ele shaman

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you can still dps as ranged if you're getting trained

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its worse for shit like desto that need casts more

mild thunder
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warrior hard counters lock and sp, so that removes two of the casters it apparently struggles into

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ele is an exception because it's entirely proc-based

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that's why ele is rarely the target

scarlet flame
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the only casters it struggles into is mage, boomkin hunter and ele sometimes ig

mild thunder
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warrior doesnt struggle into boomy

scarlet flame
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they are slippery

mild thunder
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boomy takes the dick harder than @teal hedge mum

scarlet flame
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nah

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boomy not as hard as mage, but about as equal to hunter

teal hedge
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Brother is it half past 3

mild thunder
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boomy is probably the least slippery caster

teal hedge
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And this is what I get hit with

scarlet flame
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the upside to boomy is that they dont spam their highest damage for free while they are running

frank knoll
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Anyone who queues tank in arena

mild thunder
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hunter also doesnt really out-mobilise warrior unless it's got something like a dk peeling for it

frank knoll
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Should be sent to the frontlines in Ukraine

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Just got out of a guardian Druid lobby

scarlet flame
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hunter same thing where if you have a hunter that has basic understanding of traps and runing around pillars they are impossible to actually kill without overextending

frank knoll
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Most aids shit ever

teal hedge
mild thunder
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warrior can immune pretty much all of hunters traps wym

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tar trap? uhh, guess i bladestorm

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freezing trap? uhh, guess i reflect

scarlet flame
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you BS then they run around pillar with MS boost

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you charge they scatter

teal hedge
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Твой отець умер в херсон

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Ultra toxic

scarlet flame
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you charge again you get intim stun

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if they have anyone else to help peel you get fucked so easily

teal hedge
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"Your father dies in Kherson"

mild thunder
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if they're wasting intim stun on you like that you've probably already won

frank knoll
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Dude I felt bad for the afflock

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He went 1/5

scarlet flame
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well if im the only mfer doing damage to them no i haven't won

frank knoll
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I atleast went 3/3

mild thunder
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also, if we're talking about 2s who cares

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whoever has the rdru wins

scarlet flame
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nah not 2s

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2s also kinda aids tho ngl

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hunter super cancer

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mage isn't that bad in 2s

mild thunder
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because if you're getting intim'd in a 3s game

scarlet flame
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hunter so bad

mild thunder
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they're just bad

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really bad

scarlet flame
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ig i should preface and say its mostly shuffle bc i have no friends to play 3s with, so my complaints are really not that big a deal

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games just different

mild thunder
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shuffle it kinda depends on what's on your team but idgaf about shuffle

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deadge gamemode

scarlet flame
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yeah it depends but it matters more on people just doing things instead of nothing

frank knoll
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Shuffle is aids tbh

scarlet flame
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if you're basically playing solo you get owned easily

frank knoll
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Shuffle is rng

mild thunder
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all imma say is

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there's a reason all the specs you're complaining about are super low-rep atm

scarlet flame
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yeah hunter might be easy in coordinated 3s at higher ratings, but if you're yolo 3s in lfg or in shuffle if they have 1 guy helping and you dont you wont connect at all

frank knoll
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Bad lobby? Get fucked -50 rating

mild thunder
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while arms is the highest rep dps in 3s

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and it isnt because arms struggles into everything

scarlet flame
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well its a good thing all those guys are part of the top 2k people

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and that a majority of people aren't even playing over 1600

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and again i never said they struggle into everything

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i said it sucks playing into mage boomy hunter

mild thunder
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mage it's kinda annoying into, but i can assure you it's just as annoying for the mage

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and i just disagree that it's particularly bad into boomy or hunter

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both take the dick

scarlet flame
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i feel like if the mage is just trying to get away from 1 melee dps its literally braindead

mild thunder
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and to be clear

scarlet flame
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you slow them and get gap, then if they gap closer to you you just blink away

mild thunder
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warrior struggles into mage =/= mage is OP and needs to be nerfed

scarlet flame
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i never said it was op or needed to be nerfed

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you asked what he wanted to change about mage and i listed what i thought could be changed

mild thunder
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sure, but my original comment was replying to someone saying mage should be nerfed

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which you defended

frank knoll
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They should remove blink stun

scarlet flame
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i wouldn't say i defended it, i just said what i thought would make mage not the most unfun experience to play vs

mild thunder
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and i mentioned that that was literally just SL mage

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which everyone complained about

scarlet flame
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it feels way more easy to fuck up vs a mage as warrior than as the mage

teal hedge
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Галатанда

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Nerd

scarlet flame
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fuck off terrorist

teal hedge
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Галачад

mild thunder
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TL;DR - people will complain no matter how the matchup goes because they want an excuse for why they're losing

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it's either "mage is too mobile" or "mage is too tanky" or "mage is too easy" or whatever else

teal hedge
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I got a chinese keyboard as well

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But mandarin is impossible

mild thunder
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but arms is one of the easiest, most beginner-friendly specs in the game and the stats show it

scarlet flame
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well id rather not be generalized with a bunch of retards who say its someone elses fault first, because i always say i could have played it better or differently

frank knoll
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Arms easier than fury tbh

teal hedge
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噶让谈大？

mild thunder
teal hedge
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Should say galatanda

scarlet flame
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angus go back to fuckin ur own mom

frank knoll
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Once I got to higher rating I learned that

teal hedge
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Sir yes sir

frank knoll
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Everyone knows you can just kill the fury on a swap

scarlet flame
mild thunder
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do you think arms has too many ways to avoid fuck-ups?

scarlet flame
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i think if you fuck up 1 charge its worse than fucking up 1 blink

teal hedge
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Not really becauae you also have bs and leap for movement

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Just keep hamstring up and stick to them like a tick

scarlet flame
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bs is a root breaker and its basically walking, so its good for breaking roots if you're already ontop of them but its actually not that good using it when you're far away

teal hedge
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Worgenbros keep winning

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Bs and darkflight

mild thunder
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i mean, to lay it out, arms has 2 bladestorms, 2 charges, leap with a speed buff, reflect, banner, multiple stuns, self-healing, aoe cc all on top of team-wide defensives
mage has alter, 2 blinks, block, greater invis and some roots

scarlet flame
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and slows

mild thunder
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arms also has slows

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aoe slows

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ranged slows

teal hedge
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Yeah and so does arma

mild thunder
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spammable slows

scarlet flame
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im not saying arms doesn't have a toolkit

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lmao

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im saying arms fucking up 1 is worse than mage fucking up 1

mild thunder
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no but you're saying that arms has a harder, less forgiving toolkit

teal hedge
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Arma is just extremely strong and I see so much copeing

scarlet flame
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no

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im not saying arms is a harder class to play than mage

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lmao

teal hedge
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Lower floor, higher ceiling

mild thunder
scarlet flame
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im saying using your mobility correctly is harder than a mage

mild thunder
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after saying that mage has too many ways to avoid fucking up

scarlet flame
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i didn't dodge it

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i said a warrior fucking up 1 charge is worse than a mage fucking up 1 blink

teal hedge
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Arms has a two button rotation with a 5 button burst

mild thunder
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which isnt really answering the question

teal hedge
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Rest is util and free survivability

scarlet flame
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i think arms has ways to avoid fuckups thats not as good as what mages have

mild thunder
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fungus shut the fuck up

scarlet flame
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and i think if arms fuck up 1 time they are punished harder than mages

mild thunder
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arms has ridiculous ways of avoiding/preventing/mitigating cc

thick reef
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mastering it perfectly

scarlet flame
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leaping behind a wall and doing nothing for 10 seconds waiting for charges to come back is not viable bro idgaf what anyone says

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standing still behind a wall doing nothing is not good enough defense to justify mages doing w,e and still winning

mild thunder
scarlet flame
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i dont care if its the best, that type of playstyle is straight dogshit

mild thunder
thick reef
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nova!

scarlet flame
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because when warriors dont have to waste all their time trying to connect they win no way who would have thought

mild thunder
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ok

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no cap

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you just dont play the game

scarlet flame
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and when mages dont auto win because they can free cast and blast everyone they lose

mild thunder
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so imma give you the benefit of the doubt

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because you just havent played current meta

thick reef
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idk man i mean mage just seems unhittable no matter what

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at times u can hit them and crank

scarlet flame
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i think you're taking this into a different place than what im talking about and i think its just not connecting right

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i in no way think warriors are a bad class and need anything extra

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and i dont think mages should be changed because of how i feel playing into them

mild thunder
scarlet flame
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yup mages are bad into more classes than warriors

mild thunder
scarlet flame
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arcane is hard to play

mild thunder
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i think that says it all tbh

scarlet flame
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i dont tbh

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warriors fit into more comps and are good

thick reef
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yeah and overall

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its a fun class

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old class and easy to pick up imo

scarlet flame
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if warrior works with 9/10 comps and mages only work with 3/10 ofc there is more representation of warriors than mages

mild thunder
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tanda when was the last time you played the game

scarlet flame
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before augest 3rd

thick reef
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game is bad tho

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to be fair

scarlet flame
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its not bad

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zzzz

sharp meteor
thick reef
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then why arent u playing it

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lol

scarlet flame
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because i was playing bg3

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and now im playing starfield

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i dont think poe is a bad game and i haven't played it in years

thick reef
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poe is good

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one of my wow friends

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playing it as well

mild thunder
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at best they should rework frost to not be so cringe

thick reef
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i cant call wow bad while i play it but its still nowhere near the game it used to be sadly

thick reef
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lol

mild thunder
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nope

thick reef
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bro what

scarlet flame
thick reef
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is arcane easy to hit?

mild thunder
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why should mage be easy to hit?

thick reef
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ok fine

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thats fair

mild thunder
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what's cringe about frost is their dmg profile always being gimmick-based, not their mobility

sharp meteor
scarlet flame
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fuck tanks

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no one cares

mild thunder
thick reef
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@mild thunder yea but

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does

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arcane not have more cringe moblity then frost

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isnt that what we hate abt mages

mild thunder
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not me

scarlet flame
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i dont even hate their mobility, i hate how it feels they aren't punished like i am for fucking it up

mild thunder
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id rather mage be highly mobile but get super punished for fucking up than being a braindead class like it was in SL

thick reef
mild thunder
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that was objectively worse

thick reef
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cuz they have alot of answers

thick reef
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like squishy

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they can fuck up 1o r 2 and have 2 more to back it up

scarlet flame
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if you get on a mage and BS like its good but BSing a mile away just to charge or leap or whatever to close gap is trash

thick reef
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yea

mild thunder
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i dont see the point of this

scarlet flame
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the point is BS is useless if you are not already connected

mild thunder
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it's like saying casting poly when your target is LoSing is bad

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just

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ye

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correct

thick reef
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do u guys run this channel lol? i see yall in here all the time

scarlet flame
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and actually getting to the point you can use BS to the best is not as easy as preventing it

scarlet flame
mild thunder
thick reef
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fair nuff

thick reef
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u want me to become president again u will have to serve me

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anything for u

scarlet flame
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i actually do think warriors are really hard to peel (not if a dk is there kek can grip BS LOL)

thick reef
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a thng

mild thunder
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idk i would just say

thick reef
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lol

mild thunder
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play mage

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for like

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half a season

thick reef
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i need 2 play evoker

scarlet flame
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yeah i would probably hate playing a mage

thick reef
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and understand

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wtf they do

mild thunder
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your mind will change extremely quickly

scarlet flame
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but playing a mage into a warrior would be pretty easy

thick reef
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yeah cuz

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1 fuckup withj charge

mild thunder
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your mind gonna change snap quick keks

scarlet flame
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i think the first time a hunter 1 shot me id stop playing

thick reef
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and they have to sit pillar

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yea u just afk mm ques

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lol

scarlet flame
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i do it on my dk all the time

mild thunder
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then go do it

scarlet flame
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and i win so many games vs them because fucking them up is easy

thick reef
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bro yea

mild thunder
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dk is just another braindead spec tho

thick reef
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just chain them

mild thunder
thick reef
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and

scarlet flame
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yeah it is

thick reef
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grip them 40 yards away

scarlet flame
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dk is actually braindead

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whats more braindead dk or ww

mild thunder
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arms kinda counters dk too tho no cap

thick reef
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more braindead then war? or nah

scarlet flame
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arms is good into dk yup

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but when they dont go me and tunnel my caster

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its pretty easy to win

thick reef
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im trying to think if war or dk is easier

mild thunder
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last time i versed a dk i reflected both grips and asphyx in the opener and 1shot his druid

mild thunder
thick reef
mild thunder
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if you dont think arms is the easiest, most forgiving spec in the game idk what to say

thick reef
scarlet flame
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honestly i think if i spent more time on warrior after buffs it would be better than dk

mild thunder
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bm is just a ranged arms warrior

scarlet flame
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but dk is just such a good class

thick reef
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bm isnt good

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atm

scarlet flame
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the ranged kick

thick reef
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its not as good as mm

scarlet flame
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the grips

mild thunder
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bm is ass

thick reef
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ya

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but mm

mild thunder
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mm is ass

thick reef
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is p simple too

scarlet flame
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chains of skill

thick reef
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isnt mm good rn?

scarlet flame
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no

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mm is trash

mild thunder
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mm does no dmg if you sit them

scarlet flame
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bc you have to stand still

thick reef
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o word i q into them sometimes

scarlet flame
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mm does a lot of damage

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but they do no damage if they have to kite

thick reef
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yea

scarlet flame
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so you just train them and they die

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because if you get turtle thats it

thick reef
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then they r

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dead in every stun ye

frank knoll
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Ehh just played a DK on my fury and it felt kinda bad, was easier to kill the lock

thick reef
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its funny

scarlet flame
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idk what to tell you

frank knoll
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DK also had like 860k hp for some reason

scarlet flame
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fury literally destroys dk

frank knoll
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Yeah but like

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860k hp dk vs 650k hp lock

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Who you goin?

scarlet flame
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lock had no gear then

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im going lock cause lock is a better target even if lock had 1m hp

fallen estuary
frank knoll
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Yeah

thick reef
scarlet flame
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warrior is good into both dk and lock

frank knoll
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Ended up kill the DK in another round

scarlet flame
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if that lock only had 650k hp he had no gear

frank knoll
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Yeah I’d say so, he fell apart

scarlet flame
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idk what makes lock have hp but dks get talents that increase hp

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locks id assume get the same

thick reef
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yea

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i think lock gets

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a lil more

scarlet flame
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650k is low hp for lock with full gear

frank knoll
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It was an 1860ish lobby idk how the baby geared lock got in there

scarlet flame
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could be full blues

thick reef
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my first shuffle i qued at 0 rating

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'got into a 2400 lobby

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i didnt have baby blue gear but was confused

frank knoll
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Yeah I think it uses previous season as a jump off point

thick reef
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yeah

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i dont run shuffle rly cuz its not my thing is it free 2400 still would u say?

scarlet flame
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2100 is pretty free

thick reef
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100% free

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in all 3 i feel like

scarlet flame
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i got 2100 on dk and ww the first time i played them

thick reef
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yea i got 2.1 in like 77 games in 2s lol

scarlet flame
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i think it took me 2 weeks to get to 2100 on ww

thick reef
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lmfao

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yea

scarlet flame
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and that includes gearing up in ss

thick reef
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Fascinating

frank knoll
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All u really gotta do to like 1800 is cc the healer and burst whoever your hitting

thick reef
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ye

hexed ether
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when youre not a little angry but little and angry

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taking out peoples knee caps

finite fox
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What’s best race for arms

hexed ether
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whatever you like looking at

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gnome freedom is nice

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orc stun reduct and damage boost is good

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night elf meld is broken

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dark iron bleed removal and increase your damage is cool

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panda sap and food buff has its moments

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you can literally play anything to glad

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or whatever your aspirations are

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that was my 8th warrior

sharp meteor
sage raptor
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Panda with incap okayge

sharp meteor
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Panda incap actually kind of crazy at 4 whole seconds, it's just a little scuffo on classes like warr who are generally just sort of splashing damage everywhere.

mild thunder
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the glad dream is crawling back to life

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it's like

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on life support

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in a coma

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semi-braindead

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but alive

ruby temple
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Are you remembering to have fun?

mild thunder
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im playing sv, ofc im having fun

ruby temple
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Why wouldn't you just play MM for the free glad???

mild thunder
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boring af

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plus i feel like mm needs an hpal to really pop, we play with an hpri

ruby temple
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I didn't use to be a believer in comp synergy but I have been playing lock and our healer swapped to hpal (mage stayed frost) and our group play instantly went up vs a warrior/prevoker/frost mage :/

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Like I thought sure classes that play well will do good but surely it's not gonna be better then playing something I've played for years right? Naw swap to afflock and just free wins

mild thunder
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yea we were playing kitty cleave with me as arms and got hard-stuck like 2050 last season (couldnt climb after ret meta)

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swapped to sv this season and we pushed so much more easily

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only thing we really struggle into now is turbo and kinda ret/warr

ruby temple
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I'm curious to see how udk/frost mage is gonna be (mage doesn't even have another 70). Im liking DK more then lock but if it ends up performing worst I'll just focus the lock 😦

mild thunder
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ngl probably horrible

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but this is a really good meta and if you're good you can push it

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if there was ever a meta to experiment, it's right now tbh

ruby temple
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Just kind of trying different classes now that warriors done to see what I wanna main next xpac. I main pve and kind of over arms in raid until a rework

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Also real question: does anyone have a recommendation for an addon to replace Omnibar? I get its useful but I swear it's constantly bricking and needing to be disabled/reenabled

mild thunder
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if you wanna raid, feral is an extremely fun spec imo... only downside is that it's boring af in keys

mild thunder
ruby temple
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I want the axe for transmog so def doing one of the strength boys. Leaning towards DK because the tier set is bonkers

mild thunder
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imo i think all the plate wearers are kinda boring

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i cant enjoy modern uhdk, and ret and frost are both zzz

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i want old unholy

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real disease spec

ruby temple
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I use to love arms this is the first xpac I've disliked it and fury is dumb

mild thunder
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yea arms rotation is... interesting

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it's just so braindead

ruby temple
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I preferred when arms had to think about how it was spending rage not holy fuck I've got to much better spec into the WW talent just os I have a way to dump 60 rage real quick.

mild thunder
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lol yea the rage economy is exceedingly dumb rn

ruby temple
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And they probably need to move away from the idea that arms should shine during execute phase with how much easier gear upgrades make the system and the fact they made the fights shorter so you're spending less time in the phase arm is "good" in

mild thunder
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i tihnk arms just needs to be blown up

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rebuild the spec

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start from scratch

ruby temple
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I think it should have the best execute but maybe balance it so you're not shit 80% of the fight then you just blast everything

mild thunder
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literally nothing about it is fun atm imo

ruby temple
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I'd like them to keep bladestorm though I think it's a fun ability. Should probably make it "fun" to hit because it hits hard not just because thank God I can't get rooted for 5 seconds. Like even when unhinged is the meta BS doesn't feel good to hit its just fueling more MD which is lame

mild thunder
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too many ms resets

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too much rage

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boring mastery

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not enough rage spenders

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boring cooldowns

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more cooldowns need to be like serenity, coordinated assault, berserk etc.... actually enhance/accelerate your rotation instead Le x% dmg buff

ruby temple
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At this point I don't think they could ever do a full like salt the earth rebuild..they'd have to keep shit like CS and MS. I preferred when CS was used as a tool that incentives pooling rage to do big damage vs now where eh whatever you get like 10 seconds of down time here and there but your rage resets it

mild thunder
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ye keep core abilities like mortal strike, overpower, exe etc.

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but the way they interact with each other is either incredibly bland

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or non-existent

ruby temple
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And the overpower talent with shockwave should just be baseline imo. Since it's obviously something everybody enjoys enough it went from a tier set to talent 😛

green wyvern
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nuke arms

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and rebuild it

mild thunder
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based

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W take

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mike is real for that

green anchor
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Legs spec

ruby temple
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They should rip off whirlwind barbarian playable and/or also let it have 3 weapon sets, a two handed, dual weild, and sword+shield since it is supposed to be the "master" of arms

green anchor
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woltk arms was most fun

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overpowered overpower

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with that Unrelenting assault talent

magic wing
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Arms gameplay is fine rn

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You guys dont remember the travesty of legion and bfa arms pvp

fickle forge
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BFA armd and DF arms play the same really

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DF arms is just pumped with random MS resets

mild thunder
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DF arms is deadge

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rotation is too auto-pilot

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nothing you press really matters

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you could intentionally fuck up your rotation multiple ways and barely see a damage difference

green anchor
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re: what Galachad says

west mural
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kinda true, it's not rly rewarding for pushing the right sequence

magic wing
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Show me class with complex pvp rotation and I will show you a different game

mild thunder
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a class doesnt have to be complex to be interesting or engaging

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ww, feral, survival, fire, assa, sub are all specs ive played that are infinitely more engaging than arms

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arms pvp is just a slieu of abilities with different icons that do roughly the same dmg and have either bland or non-existent effects on your other abilities

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sv for example has 7+ abilities all of which do noticeably different dmg, have different uses and need to be used in their own way

magic wing
#

Thats on blizzard for ruining spear build

mild thunder
#

it was just as much of an issue with spear build

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what did spear build change? you did more burst and had to target your reticle for spear instead of just roaring

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oooh, big difference

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your rotation was the exact same

magic wing
#

The sequence wasnt this braindead to pull off atleast

mild thunder
#

i mean

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how

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the rotation was exactly the same

magic wing
#

Now you spam two buttons

mild thunder
#

you spammed 2 buttons playing spear as well

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actually you could argue you do more now because you didnt even maintain rend early s1, it was literally filler

magic wing
#

Well you pres rend, not exactly a huge change

mild thunder
#

yea, it's not a huge change but the spear build wasnt better

#

spear has always felt janky and out of place

magic wing
#

Yeah but you had guys who couldnt pull the spear proper, everybody can pull off this dmg rotation

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WoW should learn from GW2 pvp anyway

mild thunder
#

it's literally just the same thing

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your rotation didnt change during spear windows, except you'd bladestorm

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sometimes

mild thunder
hot solstice
#

lova playing vs hpala/aug in one team

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dragon just goes infinite freedom

mild thunder
#

mage doomerism again deadge

mild thunder
# hot solstice mages/aug???

yea, neither of these specs are particularly problematic... aug is cringe and id rather it get deleted, but it's nowhere near as broken as it was on release

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and no, none of the mage specs are problematic beyond frost being poorly designed

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if i was to complain about any spec in particular it'd probably be enh... not because it's overpowered, but because it has a ridiculously bad design and wins off pure gimmick

west mural
#

true about sham

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i had an ele once do some impossible procs and won insta

frank knoll
#

Aug is actually fun to play, and weirdly does more damage than Dev

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I think Outlaw will be really good next tier

mild thunder
#

I don’t expect anything outlaw has right now to go live

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It’s absurdly broken

boreal veldt
#

looking forward to haste stacking outlaw for just the dumbest killing sprees

thick reef
mild thunder
west mural
#

by playing cancer op shit doe

mild thunder
#

jungle's an incredibly mid comp right now lol

frank knoll
#

Aug is the only cancer OP thing I can think of

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And it’s fun af

thick reef
#

ill prob get it just need ques im close lol]

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barley played but still might get it

mild thunder
#

evoker as a whole is just a fail tbh

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the only spec that has settled into the game is prevoker

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dev is dumb as fuck and kinda sucks in every gamemode and aug is just bad for the game

frank knoll
#

Prevoker is fun af too
The only time I actually enjoy healing is when I am playing Prevoker

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And that’s because I don’t need 30 party 1,2,3 macros playing Prevoker

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So I can focus more on yelling at my teammates

sick karma
#

anyone already do ping attack macro? i use /ping [@target] Attack but that do a normal Ping instead of attack ping

limber relic
#

i feel like getting r1 is pretty much imposible

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lol

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2550 is r50 😒

scarlet flame
#

Just get good

limber relic
#

ez

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need another 150 cr for r1

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"gitguud"

scarlet flame
#

Simply do better

limber relic
#

kekw

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"just do better"

simple rock
#

r1 was 3400 last season

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insane deflation holy

limber relic
#

50-0 in 0.7s

scarlet flame
limber relic
scarlet flame
#

Eat ‘em up

limber relic
#

350k dmg in 0.7s

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"gitguud"

scarlet flame
#

Yeah you got better and killed him good job

limber relic
#

yeah big brained him

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looks even weirder on video

finite raft
#

Did something happen to cancel bladestorm macros? Using #showtooltip Execute

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/cancelaura bladestorm
/cast Execute

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does not seem to be working, even w/o the tooltip and execute cast

limber relic
#

u have hurricane?

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if so u cant cancel bladestorm with hurricane

finite raft
#

Sob. that tracks thanks

muted surge
#

are we using slam yet on arms ?

vast haven
#

How do u go about dealing with aug teams in 3s?

tribal wedge
muted surge
#

:(

limber relic
delicate parrot
#

lay your weary head down

vast haven
delicate parrot
#

yeah hybrid casters are balanced in 3s

limber relic
vast haven
#

Yeah man

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Just got farmed by multiple aug+melee teams

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Seemed hopeless lol

open ridge
#

anyone has Macro that cast Hamstring in melee and Charge in range?

delicate parrot
#

#showtooltip Charge
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast [@mouseover, exists, help, nodead] Intervene
/cast [exists, nodead, harm] Charge
/cast Hamstring

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bonus intervene peepoBlush

open ridge
frank knoll
green anchor
#

FERAL???

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damn

fickle forge
#

Where is ret

frank knoll
#

@fickle forge like page 2

fickle forge
#

3s 2.4k+

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frank knoll
#

Yeah but why is Aug so low

fickle forge
#

Cause they aren't 2.4k+ I guess

fallen estuary
#

Evokers are sleeper specs

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Utterly busted but ppl refuse to play em cause theyre lizards

muted surge
#

Fuck lizards

fallen estuary
#

TANKS ALLOWED IN BG SHUFFLE HAHAHAHH

#

prepare to see me in every single one of your lobbies

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cause im like the only one who fkn love tank pbp

thick reef
muted surge
fallen estuary
#

beware

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prot warriors not the meta in bgs

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so you better train now and que

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i got 1800 playing prot in SL i think s2

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and youll see by far bears and veng DHS are utterly broken defensive wise

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but who nose

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intervene talent n that shout utility lookin juicy tho

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and storm b like AUGH

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rock double rav and have 33% reduced CD on it

#

fuuuuck

limber relic
#

excuse me? :d

green anchor
#

600k in 2 seconds?

limber relic
#

yep

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or well 1s

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since ele blast was first dmg

green anchor
#

Blizzard's idea of fast paced games

fallen estuary
#

They said they wanted to slow shit down last sn lmao

forest sinew
#

just took a 1-5 loss in SS against a ele shammy bot with rotation bot it was hilarious

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i thought bots were banned not long ago wtf

green anchor
#

Well you still get new people using bots

#

it's not like you can ban them once and for all

forest sinew
#

:S

green anchor
#

but it's funny it's always ele shaman

forest sinew
#

mofo ran to the middle of the map and just stood there parsing was hilarious and he win cuz of his high dps

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yeah always ele

green anchor
#

It's been going on for months now

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Seen them on people's streams too, at 2.6k (or higher, i don't recall) rating in S1

analog cloud
#

is fury compared to arms good in pvp?

#

or should i play arms?

limber relic
#

arms > fury by far imo

forest sinew
#

yeah i remember them back in s1, was a dwarf priest as well

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bots climbing that high LUL

analog cloud
green anchor
thick reef
#

If you hate yourself Prot is also an option

green anchor
analog cloud
#

furry looks for me easyer to play because u have less CD's to time

thick reef
pale minnow
#

Imagine you could play 2x 1 handed weaps with prot and swap to shield when u in a heat how deep would that be

delicate parrot
#

isnt that every warrior spec in classic

limber relic
#

fml so close

45.png
#

sadly we had 2 stop

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tomorrow we get it ez

mild thunder
#

emerald dream zone is literally just ardenweald but green

wheat jay
#

Ardenweald was that eternal dream with you being in the land of the dead

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Now we get ardenweald lite cuz its just sleep

#

Free trial of death

thick reef
limber relic
#

and we had to push hard just to get back to 2400 tonight

#

xd

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like 9 games just to get to 2400, imagine if those 9 games were glad wins id have it by now

#

xd

mild thunder
thick reef
mild thunder
#

is ardenweald connected to the emerald dream

thick reef
#

where u at now?

mild thunder
#

idk

thick reef
#

with the 45 wins

limber relic
wheat jay
#

But for the living

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So ye, free trial of death

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Aka bedge

mild thunder
#

i thought emerald dream was a mirror to azeroth

#

im so confuseded

thick reef
wheat jay
#

Still, shit's connected

limber relic
wheat jay
#

Was something with elune

limber relic
#

tomorrow its glad 100%

thick reef
#

Def

wheat jay
#

How elune is sister of night Queen or something like that

thick reef
#

What weapon do u use for ur mog btw

#

Looks cool from the clips I seen

wheat jay
#

Could be metaphorical from blizz tho

limber relic
#

but with s2 2.1 enchant it makes it look even crazier

thick reef
#

Yeah I never get it haha

#

Looks dope

limber relic
thick reef
#

Unluck haha

wheat jay
#

Man I gotta get it after all

#

Its just so good xD

thick reef
#

Yeah

frank knoll
#

Kinda wish we still had IP

mild thunder
fallen solar
#

Can anyone link an optimal Prot warrior talent build? Gonna try it out for bgs and solo

sharp meteor
#

@fallen estuary

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sharp meteor
delicate parrot
sharp meteor
#

Can flex rav/sd points around into something like spell block for anti-magic, champion's bulwark for more burst or disrupting shout for a cheeky aoe kick.

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Can also swap out wrecking for furious blows or bounding. gladge

fallen solar
sharp meteor
#

I'm also a big fan of @cursor heroic leap, while also having a normal reticle bind.

#

If you play shuffle I'd recommend some bodyguard binds.

#

(and of course intervene)

fallen solar
#

True. Thanks!

fallen estuary
#

No way

#

Thats like a 100% win rt

#

Tell me you won that lob

sharp meteor
#

Team bickering at the end.

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mild thunder
#

jungle balanced

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pale fox
#

Looking for a coach to review some of my vods with me. New to dragon flight as of 2 weeks been pvping on warrior for 1 week. Have no prior arena experience. 1840 solo shuffle cr. Dm me pls ty

fallen estuary
#

Dawg bag thatvw

#

Fuck prot pallys

fossil mortar
#

Dont use this

#

Have a good day peeps

lethal sandal
idle falcon
#

@mild thunder YOOOOO

#

WASSAP

green anchor
muted surge
#

Problem with age is that you actually got responsibilities and can’t sit in queue for the whole day

mild thunder
idle falcon
thick reef
#

What the fuck?

fossil mortar
#

dandy don't use it tho, you been warned. Just a heads-up it's out there and used ydnad

thick reef
#

So how does it work? It just checks if the caster is casting and just doesn't let you kick if he isn't kickable?

#

And how is it bannable?

mild thunder
#

Same as the @target macro from SL where you could just auto throw targeted reticle abilities on your target or focus

#

Abusing it will definitely result in ban or suspension

thick reef
#

Sounds like the intern at Blizzard needs to do his job

mild thunder
#

Stuff like this happens

#

It’s only a big deal if it spends a lengthy time unaddressed

fickle forge
fallen solar
#

Anyone else duel someone that is “unbeatable” and they get all mad when you beat them and they blame lag?

#

Shit is funny

mild thunder
magic wing
#

They blow every cd on the planet and then wait 10 mins for another duel

fallen solar
magic wing
#

Also frost mages when they cant perma slow/cc you

fallen solar
#

I just get on my hunter for them

limber relic
fickle forge
limber relic
#

stop screenshotting ur own LFG group @fickle forge

#

also ur not even 1.3. :x

fickle forge
limber relic
fickle forge
limber relic
fickle forge
limber relic
#

me

limber relic
frank knoll
fickle forge
limber relic
fickle forge
limber relic
#

i work 6-17

#

or well i work 7-16 but 1h to work and 1h back

fickle forge
#

Man is living WoW

#

Wait man has fucking another 1.1k shuffles on an alt arms

#

Dude what's your profession lmao

#

How do you have the time to sit these Qs

#

Are you working from home?

limber relic
#

its on 2 diffrent accounts

#

Q at the same time

#

and i work at a hospital while studying as an EMT

fickle forge
#

How the fuck can you be at a hospital, grind gym and then also have time to sit 10k shuffles

limber relic
#

i dont do gym doe

#

that part was troll

fickle forge
limber relic
#

xd

frank knoll
#

Maybe one of those people who lives off of 4 hours of sleep

#

There’s a certain percentage of people who can do that just fine. It’s a genetic thing

limber relic
fickle forge
#

Look man Imma be generous and say each shuffle Q is 15 min and you haven't had as single leaver ever

limber relic
#

its doable but yday i needed to reset and slept like 16h XD

fickle forge
#

You've sat at least 155 hours in Q waiting for shuffle

limber relic
#

also

#

i had 1 month vacation during july

#

yeah i nolifed that shit

fickle forge
limber relic
#

but afterall, s2 started may 10th

#

thats 4 months ago

fickle forge
#

That's still

#

Like 39 hours of waiting a month

#

Maybe Blizz just needs to fix the Q times in this game

limber relic
#

also, ive had times where i literally get insta Q

#

one after another

#

so theres that

frank knoll
#

Do push ups during every queue while you wait

#

You’ll be looking like that in no time

green anchor
#

but IQ will be sub 50

mild thunder
#

Did you ever think it was higher?

#

50 iq is probably 99th percentile in here

green anchor
mild thunder
#

2% of people

#

Chances are if you’re sleeping 2-4 hours per night it’s not because you’re some genetic rarity of an individual, you just have unhealthy and shitty sleeping habits lmao

sharp meteor
#

So you'll never coil into reflect, or storm bolt into glimpse or bop.

#

Because the button just turns off until the aura is present.

limber relic
#

i sleep 5h/day and im fine ^^

#

6-5h

#

working 8h

#

streaming 4h ish

#

studying

#

glad wins now. 5 last games lego

mild thunder
#

actually breaking traps triggers me infinitely less than when i harpoon/stun > trap and my feral gives him precog as the trap goes out

#

i love my feral but bruh

#

watchu doin

lavish quest
#

Question is if using the macro is actually banable given it is an in game macro right?

#

Tho blizz should just fix it lol

limber relic
#

there we go

frank knoll
#

I hate sleeping because there’s always so much that I want to do

frank knoll
#

Vs ele/boomkin too, that’s tough

limber relic
#

onlky thing we facing rn Xd

mild thunder
limber relic
#

only healer left now 😄

lavish quest
#

Congrats big man!

sharp meteor
#

What'll probably happen is that they just fix it within the next few days and that's it.

fallen estuary
#

@sharp meteor does thunderfury still work

#

i have it on my lvl 40 but idk if it works on 70s

#

also you changed ur avatar

#

i dont know who u r anymoar

sharp meteor
limber relic
frank knoll
limber relic
#

no more "sl glad" warr

#

xd

tribal wedge
limber relic
fickle forge
fickle forge
# frank knoll

Why the fuck is warr C tier lmao, warr is goated in RBG

#

Arcane and Hpala bottom????

thick reef
limber relic
fickle forge
thick reef
#

bro

#

look at what hes fighting

#

aids for us

fickle forge
#

It's arms in a nutshell rn

thick reef
#

ye

#

into casters

#

it feels like that

fickle forge
#

Do no damage 80% of the game, and then chunk when you actually can hit

thick reef
#

yep

#

he prob had not much uptime cuz of all their shit they had

#

but when he made it he cranked em

fickle forge
#

Carried by his own caster, ret 😏

thick reef
#

xD haha

fickle forge
#

I swear ret+warr is unhealable

#

Kill with uptime alone

thick reef
#

yeah

#

and with a rdruid

#

i swear u can only win

#

by killing rdru

west mural
#

i don't know what alot of people are using but i see people dodge my insta spells, like priest with fade, and no it wasn't a "now he will use that at 2.4k rating shit", i was learning fresh new class in arena and he was dodging my shit nonstop, this didn't happen only once

#

and it was insta perfect

#

how many scripters are in wow? cause i know there are alot in other games but i know nothing about it here

sharp meteor
#

Because no concern for teammates and new accs/chars are quick and easy.

hushed plank
#

@west mural bunch of kick scripts and “macros” going around right now

fickle forge
#

Like they dodge your CS?

west mural
#

like dodging some of my insta dk spells cause i was learning dk and i never seen shit like that happen at under 1.5k rating, char is was fresh

#

it was rly weird

#

and it didn't happen once that day

#

compared to other games and other chars where that doesn't rly happen

#

i don;'t rly belive in coincidence when shit happesn repeatedly

#

1 time is fine 2 time is ok 3rd time bells ring

fickle forge
#

Prob just RNG

mild thunder
#

i give no sympathy

west mural
#

could be, could be

mild thunder
fickle forge
#

You can't really script your way into dodging sleet n' stuff

mild thunder
#

most braindead, retard-proof comp in the game and ofc it's top tier

fickle forge
mild thunder
#

only comp more cringe than ret/warr is turbo

mild thunder
#

KFC players are just walking Ws

limber relic
fickle forge
#

Skip McD, BK and all those other places

#

Respect the KFC

#

🙏

mild thunder
#

wtf is BK

frank knoll
#

Burger King

mild thunder
#

oh

#

you mean Hungry Jacks

#

nws

frank knoll
#

“Whopper Whopper double Whopper”

mild thunder
#

hungry jacks is actually so amazingly dogshit

#

it's not even just mid

#

the burgers are actively gross

fickle forge
#

Sunset though

#

👌

mild thunder
#

red rooster and subway are the best takeout

#

kfc is okay

#

everything else sucks

limber relic
fickle forge
mild thunder
frank knoll
#

Arby’s or Tbell are the best

mild thunder
#

taco bell is mid

limber relic
#

kekw

limber relic
#

sry i had to go there

fickle forge
mild thunder
#

karg is a multiglad lmao

limber relic
fickle forge
#

Start developing the mentals to beat up an F-tier comp smh

mild thunder
#

mglad without abusing ret/warr xeos

fickle forge
limber relic
#

ok

#

x)

mild thunder
#

kfc players almost as chad as jungle mains

#

ok no cap i forgot how fucking boring ret/warr is to play

frank knoll
#

This is the ultimate display of KFC skill right here

mild thunder
#

literally just tunneling into one target all game ignoring externals, barely peeling, no setup, literally just W key and wait for ret to oneshot

fickle forge
#

Ret+warr is essentially PHP if you skip the setups

mild thunder
frank knoll
#

I got many kind suggestions to end my own life while playing Ret warr

#

And Turbo last season

mild thunder
#

all valid

#

if you played ret/warr last season

#

you're not a good human being

#

this is what KFC chads do in their spare time 💪

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limber relic
#

ppl QQ cuz u play retwarr is funny tho ngl 😄

elfin surge
frank knoll
atomic orchid
#

Wow

fickle forge
#

You win via uptime basically

mild thunder
#

yea

frank knoll
#

Capital of your country is Cranberry, head ass @mild thunder

mild thunder
#

the greatest human beings on earth

fickle forge
#

If you're ever in trouble, hit one of your 10 defensive CDs

mild thunder
#

have you ever even heard of the Diggers?

elfin surge
#

ret war is a comp for bad warriors

mild thunder
#

steve irwin

#

russell coight

elfin surge
#

which is why i q it

#

i fell off

fickle forge
#

How can you ever kill anything inbetween 1 min Sac, BoP, freedoms, Intervene, Disarm, Shockwave, Banner, Duel etc.

mild thunder
fickle forge
#

And warr about to get Safeguard

mild thunder
atomic orchid
#

Melee cleave enjoyers have no bitches and small PP.

limber relic
#

galachad in here talking with his 0 xp

#

kekw

elfin surge
#

@mild thunder

mild thunder
limber relic
#

yep

fickle forge
limber relic
#

i got 2300 tsg tho

mild thunder
#

what did you play SL s2?

frank knoll
#

How many Regimes has Australia changed? Zero!

#

USA xeos

elfin surge
#

what are u nerds arguing about

mild thunder
fickle forge
#

KFC big brain

elfin surge
mild thunder
fickle forge
#

Can we add SeifCham to F-tier now that it's public he doesn't lift

atomic orchid
frank knoll
#

Mud? More like Mid

fickle forge
mild thunder
#

crusader would be an S tier warrior lifter if he rerolled

fickle forge
#

Or even good at all vs other healers

#

Your healer should never die when you have 20 different defensives to give him

elfin surge
#

crusader cant lift

#

hes physically weak

fickle forge
#

Crusader took all his mental power and added it to his gains

mild thunder
#

mud have you ever even seen a dumbbell in real life?