Overpower should go through.
#pvp
lavish quest
Think he means Darkness
Because darkness isn't dodging, it's just flat out a chance to avoid the attack
Dumb technical difference that doesn't really make sense anyways
green agate
You get a free elite / heroic pve tier token if you hit AOTC, 1600 rated or idk IO in M+ for each character once per season. Just makes it a bit easier to hit transmog goals if you don't wanna push too hard
unique fox
You can also reflect Hunt and it does big dam, but also be mindful of vengeful retreat/glimpse since they can use it to get out of disarm, but I've also noticed that DH's just throw that shit out for no reason a lot
I was getting a bit roasted by DHs last 2s sesh, they basically just annihilated my healer and cleaved the shit out of us if i tried to stop him
Getting randomly crit for 220k from death sweep and shit
tribal wedge
I experience this curently, i can t match their dps, and my healer get run down
frank knoll
I think they’re immune to stormbolt when the glimpse too
unique fox
Yes during the animation
sharp meteor
Often can't go dh or at least not sustained depending on healer
if you both just stack on them then you just melt due to their output
also some healers can't handle them alone for periods of time, like i think hpal
whereas rdruid can create windows between roots/clones/stuns
unique fox
just run like an absolute pussy during big meta is the play i think
chain cc with roots, oppressive roar + fear, stun whatever eye beams, disarm essence break
mild thunder
Dh doesn’t always take EB anymore, but it’s also just not worth taking disarm into them most of the time
Just cc eye beam and duel them to stop their dmg if they’re gonna go on your healer or partner
You can reflect the hunt dot if it’s gonna go on you, otherwise intervene + parry if needed on your partner
pale minnow
Duel is great vs dh but the downward is that your partner won't do dmg to it
So your partner has to hit the other guy
sharp meteor
So your partner has to hit the other guy
This is not how the ability works.
sharp meteor
It reduces the damage you and the dh deal to each other, that’s all
No, that's not right either.
🗞️
mild thunder
It reduces the damage you and the dh deal to everyone but each other
pale minnow
Ye
mild thunder
No, that's not right either.
pale minnow
While dueled all damage you and the target deal to all targets other than each other is reduced by 50%
Also great vs rat paladins
mild thunder
Fuck Ratribution
But ye pretty much warrior, sv, rogue, mm and enh are the only classes that still get cucked by disarms
And frost dk
lavish quest
Broke into top 100 warriors (in 2s 😳 )
delicate parrot
lavish quest
U right
mild thunder
bribe bobby
mild thunder
idk mage is probably the hardest class to log on and learn
warrior is about the easiest
lavish quest
Woah, it's incredibly hard to learn to play warrior without eating my keyboard
pale minnow
warrior is about the easiest
Subjective point of view
Fury warrior ye it's nuts easy
sharp meteor
Arms doesn't exactly have the steepest of learning curves.
pale minnow
Healers are the hardest to learn
mild thunder
Eh
I don’t think it’s subjective that warrior is one of the easiest specs in the game
And whether healing is difficult depends on what you normally do in other games
I definitely wouldn’t say hpal is hard
mild thunder
Warr all specs are easy as fuck
Real
One day they rework arms into having complexity
wheat jay
Legion had it
mild thunder
My vision for the spec is so far from what it is now, there’s no point hoping for it to happen
wheat jay
Yep
mild thunder
wheat jay
At least survi is fun xD
mild thunder
True, we are God’s chosen
I do think the sv talent tree could use some work tho..: lots of dead nodes
mild thunder
I love coordinated assault, the only change I’d make to it is changing the wildfire mod so it’s actually a decision
Spearhead could be good if it was tuned better and the capstone for it was better. I like the idea of a mongoose bite-centric cool-down
FotE is kinda boring imo, but it is nice seeing lots of crits
There’s also just lots of odd nodes in weird spots… I don’t like the chance apply serpent sting node especially since we still take serpent sting in every build
But we still have to take the chance to apply because it leads to wildfire infusion… which is bizarre because why does a single-target node lead into our main aoe dmg
The chance to shoot arcane shot node is cool in concept but its tuned super poorly and tied to a button we don’t really want to press with a really low proc rate
We also have like 3 separate nodes for buffing specific abilities like kill command, mongoose bite etc.
And for some bizarre reason we don’t have flayed shot
And uhhh, our mastery has needed a rework for quite a while
pale minnow
Imma check this survi hunter out if you praise it like this, we'll seenif this is some crazy cope or legit
mild thunder
Oh and I want that flare + tar trap legendary back because that was thematically cool as fuck
wheat jay
Oh and I want that flare + tar trap legendary back because that was thematically...
Ye that was 10/10 design
Cluster too
wheat jay
Spearhead could be good if it was tuned better and the capstone for it was bette...
Kargish had the BEST idea for its
1sec
mild thunder
that seems absurdly strong and absurdly fun
mild thunder
kill shot feels how execute does in my wildest dreams
it's the most fun ability to press in the entire game
opal acorn
S1 was meh. This seasons is ok. I still think the black one from sl is the best
I fear next seasons will be some green, leaf like illusion
mild thunder
they've put in a lot of effort to make this xpac's enchants look really new and flashy
but i hate literally all of them
except for s1, s1 was kinda cool
sage raptor
you are all so wrong
opal acorn
I didn't expect you to say that
mild thunder
i dont think i worded it very well but cba
echo ravine
what is the best race in all of wotlk for druid?
shy aurora
they've put in a lot of effort to make this xpac's enchants look really new and ...
Shadowflame decent
mild thunder
what is the best race in all of wotlk for druid?
defs not the right place to ask this
echo ravine
defs not the right place to ask this
Is there a Druid classic server?
mild thunder
there are druid servers and there are classic servers
both would be able to better answer that for you than the retail warrior pvp channel
echo ravine
both would be able to better answer that for you than the retail warrior pvp cha...
I don’t see any link in this server to the classic warrior server
mild thunder
I don’t see any link in this server to the classic warrior server
google it... there are tons of classic wow servers
there's also both of these lol
teal hedge
Lost groblin
fickle forge
defs not the right place to ask this
How do I change the tire on my car?
magic wing
what is the best race in all of wotlk for druid?
LOL
Dont play druid at all is my advice
echo ravine
Dont play druid at all is my advice
😆 why not? I’m somewhat new to wow
mild thunder
how'd you get here if you're new to wow and are playing classic
wheat jay
Google I presume
wheat jay
😆 why not? I’m somewhat new to wow
Cuz we're warrior mains here, its warrior discord
Except me and Galachad, we're survi hunter mains
fickle forge
😆 why not? I’m somewhat new to wow
Reroll to warrior
mild thunder
Except me and Galachad, we're survi hunter mains
fickle forge
Embrace masculinity
echo ravine
Warrior chads
teal hedge
Embrace masculinity
Dude I keep seeing videos with that title and the actual contents of the video is just some guy being pissed off because the gays exist
With like, little dark age playing in the background lmao
fickle forge
Dude I keep seeing videos with that title and the actual contents of the video i...
What kind of youtube algorithm do you have lmao
teal hedge
On my school account I only watched little dark age edits to see how fast I would get alt-right stuff
Turns out: that shit comes quick
Took me like 3 vids until I saw "little dark age: germany"
fickle forge
My algorithm keeps spamming me with motivational stuff
teal hedge
That shit's like cocomelon but for facists
fickle forge
Thefuck is a cocomelon
teal hedge
Mein gott
But yeah, even the motivational stuff can lead into some weird garbage
Keep seeing people use Zyzz in order to put others down, which is precisely the opposite of what the man wanted
fickle forge
Lmao
Honestly, that's the behaviour I see with most movements
They start off good, but eventually it becomes degrading
We're all gonna make it bros
mild thunder
You had me convinced it was a genuine fruit
It’s like a chocolatey melon
fickle forge
mild thunder
Coco melon
magic wing
If you pick warrior, you pick the path of aesthetics and big lifts
elfin surge
hello my warrior brothers
thick reef
https://tenor.com/view/zyzz-son-of-zeus-gif-18026445
Brings a smile to my face everytime
daily reminder everyone
we are going to make it
my gay uncle btw fellas
lavish quest
Prot in pve id say is the hardest for warr
Prot pve is prob the easiest tbh lol I say that as a prot main who times all 20s and gets at least AotC each tier (not on a mythic raid team so a lof of pugging lol)
wheat jay
Prot pve is prob the easiest tbh lol I say that as a prot main who times all 20s...
In comparison to other specs
Pushing as prot, not 20s but higher
Is harder than pvp or pve on either fury or arms
At least in my opinion
lavish quest
Eh maybe, M+ isn't my favorite system tbf I don't go higher than 20s because I don't have the interest. I get all my ports and I ghost the M+ scene basically 😂
lavish quest
Not really, hardly even gotta use em tbh. Just slap them shield block and ignore pain 24/7 and you'll be fine most of the time unless you doing big big pulls
Sit in bstane because dstance is for pussies and we like damage
$$$profit$$$
wheat jay
Ye but pushing tho
lavish quest
Well I play mostly the same even when pushing (pushing through the lower keys at the start of season/lower ilvl) healers probably hate me
fickle forge
Is harder than pvp or pve on either fury or arms
I'm gonna go ahead and say +20 anything is just a matter of getting through the initial learning curve, and then you can turn your brain off for the remaining expansion 😎👍
wheat jay
I'm gonna go ahead and say +20 anything is just a matter of getting through the ...
Ye but pushing is not doing +20 on farm...
+20 is a formality lol
Easy as fuck with half a brain
fickle forge
Ye but pushing is not doing +20 on farm...
Ye but the point is that higher keys don't really change much, until you collide with some breakpoint where you need a new strat, but generally you can do the same sequence every time and see success
scarlet barn
Karg went on spamming spree
dreamy moat
my magnum opus, the alarm I just made because I'm fucking sick of sleeping in
wheat jay
Ye but the point is that higher keys don't really change much, until you collide...
Thing with prot is you gotta keep momentum, and prot is the most defensives juggling tank spec
So its more active, and you got half your shit off gcd
frank knoll
Enduring rage seems good in theory but not practice
Like what’s the point in getting reck procs if I’m perma slowed/cced
green anchor
cool glad stance vfx lol
honestly I wish they changed that
even back to the old reck vfx
muted surge
Thing with prot is you gotta keep momentum, and prot is the most defensives jugg...
You only use sb and you can do that 90% of the time on cd.
Ip as rage dump, LS on cd, sw as oh shit. You don’t juggle shit
wheat jay
3 walls
demo shout on low cd for more dmg and defensive
avatar which reduces cd even more
muted surge
Demo lines up
wheat jay
you actually have to press stuff on prot in pve 😄
muted surge
And is pressed on cd
Ava as well
Yeah you got more buttons than other tanks I guess
But I wouldn’t say you juggle anything
wheat jay
you certainly use all your skills
ocean ivy
any chads here that do both high end PvE and high end PvP? How do you do it with your UI? do you just run 2 seperate UIs or PvP focused/PvE focused and just work with the other one?
wheat jay
any chads here that do both high end PvE and high end PvP? How do you do it with...
pve ui with pvp addons for me
basically this
for me at least
ocean ivy
you run WAs in the middle on PvE and just have htem disabled in arena?
because i really CBB seeing those in arena
simple rock
muted surge
you run WAs in the middle on PvE and just have htem disabled in arena?
If you don’t need them in pvp you certainly don’t need it in pve
ocean ivy
wut
muted surge
The pve ui is just cringe anyway
ocean ivy
yea i didnt like it either
muted surge
I never had that and got to a decent level :>
ocean ivy
but it kinda helps me a bit
muted surge
(Sucking at pvp tho kek)
But you can just keep it for pvp, if you can’t track your cds otherwise
You gonna need it anyway
And all the pve / pvp specific stuff like arena frames etc
Are only active in pvp anyway
The rest of your ui shouldn’t change much normally
Unless you use hekili or shit like that
ocean ivy
used to rock basically this in PvP + raid, but for me that ui was more centered around being good at pvp
muted surge
I get eye cancer
ocean ivy
you should see it in raid
wheat jay
you run WAs in the middle on PvE and just have htem disabled in arena?
dont need WA in pve lol
ocean ivy
this was in raid
ocean ivy
dont need WA in pve lol
ofc u dont but i think they are pretty good sometimes
muted surge
Classic lock ui
ocean ivy
also my nameplates are just so weird
like i use plater for the M+ aspect of it (coloring mobs separately etc. etc.)
but i hate it in pvp because my screen just dies when i verse a Demo lock or i dont even see the grounding totem nameplate and shit like that
and i have no idea how to fix that garbage
im about to fucking go full reset and just run base UI with gladius, omnibar/cd, a random addon for the nameplate buff showcase thing and be done with it
ocean ivy
I get eye cancer
why what does ur ui look like 
muted surge
Less clustered
Also you can merge player profiles
Some shit is only displayed vs players
If you set it up correctly you won’t have issues
sharp meteor
@fallen estuary Blessed Hunter/Warrior lobbies. 
thick reef
What spec
elfin surge
we back
wheat jay
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
FUCK
WARRIORS
DOUBLE ARMS SHUFFLE
FUCK WARRIORS FUCK THIS CLASS
AND FUCK YOU TOO @elfin surge
still managed 4-2 XD
elfin surge
so bad
wheat jay
fucking unholy and two arms warriors
okay nevermind
give me my last shuffle back XD
i cba with this GARBAGE
ocean ivy
i need an UI expert
i feel like my settings are so bricked from using and then removing elvui
cant even enable the personal nameplate etc.
frank knoll
Survival seems like it kinda rules
fallen estuary
<@329716606257201153> Blessed Hunter/Warrior lobbies. <:gladge:96397013770110982...
Im coming home rn to que
You better save those damn lobbies for me
If i get a damn aug lobby im blaming you
sharp meteor
Just came stumbling out of a mage/aug lobby with a 2-4 and thanking my stars. 🤩
fallen estuary
Dawg i got a mage and then an aug lobby
2128 to 2023
I hope to god i get thosr lobbies
atomic orchid
Ayo fuck Augvoker and all them weebs who play them
mild thunder
FUCK WARRIORS FUCK THIS CLASS
Real
mild thunder
Mfw dh is more complex than arms
thick reef
How is DH complex?
thick reef
Kek
green wyvern
Real
mild thunder
Managing momentum can be vaguely difficult, but I don’t think they even run it in PvP
fallen estuary
Dhs dont care about no resource lmao
They just spam whatever button hits the hardest
lavish quest
Just beat nahj 
magic wing
Show me
wheat jay
literally 
mild thunder
God I hope they revert that stupid healer trinket change
thick reef
God I hope they revert that stupid healer trinket change
didn't you know, we can't have healers sitting in CC because otherwise they'll be sad?
mild thunder
Bro I actually don’t know how people say stuff like “sitting in CC is unfun so it shouldn’t be in the game”
I guess losing isn’t fun, so you should always win every arena no matter what
thick reef
Bro I actually don’t know how people say stuff like “sitting in CC is unfun so i...
sub-1000 take
mild thunder
Not killing a raid boss isn’t fun, so you should always one tap a boss
Not timing keys isn’t fun, so you should always immediately finish a key once you start it
Like bruh
violet fossil
that healer trinket change and healers supposedly got stronger heals
what are we in for
mild thunder
It’s all aimed at shuffle but man it’s gonna fuck 2s and 3s so hard
thick reef
what are we in for
Playing prot and grinding through dampening
thick reef
gonna damp at 99%
no balls
violet fossil
ballsac
mild thunder
The trinket change is almost as dumb as when people like asmongold say all cc should DR together
Like bro, you’ve never even played real arenas beyond getting carried by r1s
How anyone can take that incel retards opinion seriously is beyond me
frank knoll
I mean versing mage as Arms makes me wish slows DRed
But I realize some stuff just counters you
mild thunder
That would be an objectively horrible change
frank knoll
Dude I know I just hate walking the entire match lol
Walking and pillar humping is not fun game play
thick reef
idk, Prot into mage is fine
mild thunder
I stg all you need to do is leap > mortal strike and the mage will be forced to block
They take so much damage it’s hilarious
frank knoll
Atleast fury has a freedom on a 20sec lol
thick reef
Prot sticks to mage like napalm to kids
mild thunder
I destroyed a mage by spamming mongoose bite and without even paying attention
He blinked on top of me, I MB’d twice and kill shot him
They die if the wind is too strong
frank knoll
I’m leveling a Prevoker rn to try healing but the SV stories I hear make me wanna try that
thick reef
Idk man, prot tier set next patch got me hyped as fuck
Shield Slam turning into a SKS?
worthy fern
Revert spear nerfs
mild thunder
The best part about playing survival is having literally zero bad matchups
thick reef
wheat jay
Your bad matchup is being randomly oneshot cuz someone rolled 3 crits back to back
thick reef
lol
mild thunder
Your bad matchup is being randomly oneshot cuz someone rolled 3 crits back to ba...
My bad matchup is arms warriors that passively can’t be cc’d for half a game because they pressed bladestorm
mild thunder
Bladestorm should do more damage but should be a hard 90s CD with no bmt proc
worthy fern
I’m just watching wow rn not playing but arms seems decent state no?
mild thunder
I’m just watching wow rn not playing but arms seems decent state no?
It’s very strong
Arguably the best melee in arena
mild thunder
Feral kinda mid
worthy fern
Wack
mild thunder
Gets tunneled into the ground by melee
Needs something like destro or augvoker to watch its back
wheat jay
Feral does good dmg, does all the feral stuff but it just dies
mild thunder
Yep
worthy fern
What season is it?
wheat jay
2
mild thunder
Somehow feral also feels like it has kinda low utility these days… arms has stuff like intervene, banner, rally, duel, disarm etc., ret has bubbles, sac, sanc, sv has a billion things, rogue does rogue stuff
worthy fern
Damn still
mild thunder
Feral has root and clone
worthy fern
Yea feral has been not fun to play for all xpac imo
Dmg bot
Doesn’t even heal well
mild thunder
I love the playstyle but they need to address the fact that it’s really not a hybrid atm
worthy fern
I don’t even think you can really do something similar to resto affin feral like last xpac
scarlet flame
God I hope they revert that stupid healer trinket change
whats this change
mild thunder
Their healing should be more effective but instant regrowths should eat their mana imo
mild thunder
whats this change
Healer trinket reduced to 90s
scarlet flame
from 2m?
mild thunder
Yep
mild thunder
id rather the healer do 2x healing than that
They’re getting big buffs too Dw
scarlet flame
it doesn't help shuffle at all
shuffles arent' being lost cause of the trinket CD
mild thunder
it doesn't help shuffle at all
It definitely does, they will have a lot more active time to heal
It’s not about winning or losing it’s about healers having no agency over shuffle games
scarlet flame
when half the deaths are because someone didn't press a button
mild thunder
Which is a real issue
scarlet flame
idk if that trinket gunna help
mild thunder
But they’re fixing it by hurting arenas
scarlet flame
this isn't going to change them not having agency with 1 guy whos total dogshit making them go 3-3
you can't heal retards bro
the one dh who dies in the air, the warrior who leaps behind pillars, the mage who doesn't block
90s trinket isn't going to do shit to that
all that shits going to affect is maybe 2100+ shuffle (kek) and actual arenas
mild thunder
Well regardless of whether it helps or not
It’s a design change intended to alleviate healer issues in shuffle
And it will have clearly adverse affects on arena
scarlet flame
im still kind of confused on what they thought healer life was going to be like in shuffle in the first place
its random ranked game mode
frank knoll
They shoulda just made 3s and 2s solo queue with the option to queue as a team like skirms
scarlet flame
idk i think people go into shuffle as a healer and expect to hard carry dogshit
and then you get some healers who straight up refuse to believe they are the dogshit
frank knoll
I had a resto shaman earth walling right out of the gate for no reason
scarlet flame
or ones who dont pay attention to CC thats just going to go on them
frank knoll
Like he would walk out a drop earth wall
I’m don’t know what he was trying to accomplish
scarlet flame
if a rogue has blind up its a pretty high chance hes throwing it at you
why are you not playing around it at all
if the warrior is walking towards you chances are hes going to fear you
why are you not doing anything about it
i get a lot of "why didn't you kick the mage polying me" on my warrior
like bro my kick is melee range
frank knoll
Yeah same
scarlet flame
i had a double warrior comp one time
it was 2 warriors vs mage boomkin
and the healer got mad we didn't kick the poly
cause we decided to train boomkin
frank knoll
I’m playing vs frost mage and boomy, healer who’s a Hpal yelling “STOP THE POLYS”
Dude I’m slowed and rooted wtf do you want me to do, where’s my freedom?
scarlet flame
at some point you have to take responsibility for your own safety and maybe not stand in the center of the room
healers in shuffle have the biggest egos for no reason and my mind wont be changed
thick reef
healers in shuffle have the biggest egos for no reason and my mind wont be chang...
Instant queue mentality
They literally go "don't care, I'ma insta requeue, enjoy your hr wait"
mild thunder
Somewhere out there there’s a planet with an earth-like civilisation and an alien world of Warcraft, and on that planet dps are the minority and get instant queues
west mural
Healer should never be in mid
sounds good untill u play healer with melees that just train people out of your los all day till 2k rating, not saying only melee do this but they almost always do
and preventing u from being cced or dispelling you as healer is a fantasy
so they force u in the open then they never help
sometimes i dream of playing human pala or undead priest with that 1min anticc trinket so i can have a chance in ss
hexed ether
I’m playing vs frost mage and boomy, healer who’s a Hpal yelling “STOP THE POLYS...
good mages wont be kicked by a warrior. banner is the best we got. perfectly played mage feels really bad as warrior.
scarlet flame
and preventing u from being cced or dispelling you as healer is a fantasy
you can get your ass on my monk or dk or ele sham im spaming my ranged kick and incap
stormbolt is a meme interupt because it has travel time, and kick is melee
the only way a warrior is reliably stopping you from being cc'd is training the guy doing the cc, in shuffle at least
fear, shockwave, everything but banner is not long ranged
intervene also has travel time
wheat jay
like bro my kick is melee range
And they can blink your kick
scarlet flame
getting mad at a shaman who doesn't kick is not the same as getting mad at a warrior not kicking imo
no excuse a guy with 20 yard kick isn't kicking everything
no excuse why dk isn't kicking
west mural
i'm just saying that as i started playing healer i noticed that playing with a warrior is not as efficient and str8forward as playing with other classes, in fact it's overrepresented, and if he is not rly good it's quite bad
also arms has lower win chance than fury wich seems just zug str8forrward
and fuck monks in general, all of them xD
scarlet flame
ngl thats a skill issue
west mural
probably
scarlet flame
on my druid its not hard to position myself to not get cucked by CC with anyone on my team
it sucks more for shamans whos totems are a huge part of their healing
but for pretty much every other healer not being int he middle of the map isn't hard to do
west mural
i actualy play sham, ye
started priest, seems ezer to an extent
but totems can be fun
scarlet flame
shaman also has shear on every spec
and grounding
you can personally fuck over people trying to cc you
west mural
indeed but hex is laughable imho compared to other ccs
west mural
if not perfectly used
scarlet flame
this really was the most metal loading screen of all time
until you realize nerzul was a dungeon boss, thralls dad was a nobody, kargath was the first boss of the first raid and you never actually fight grom
or guldan
the only one on that loading screen who was anybody was blackhand who was a gigachad
mild thunder
durotan is a fucking chad, excuse you
scarlet flame
hes a cartoon character and im a real person so anything i do is more than him
and tf you mean he looks badass
mild thunder
you're a real person and he's a video game character and he's still more famous than you'll ever be
scarlet flame
probably less people know durotan than the rocks outside ogrimmar
i even forgot his name until you said it
dudes a nobody in a world of make believe
mild thunder
look at this absolute menace of an orc
mild thunder
he even got that blue-eye stare
scarlet flame
blackhand was the only gigachad of that era
grom would have been sick if we ended up fighting him instead of archimond and all the legion dogshit they put into it
and somehow the guy we've been fighting against for 2 years turns into a good guy overnight
mild thunder
i mean, it's not really "overnight", there's just no real need for them to be villains at all
it was just garrosh manipulating them for his own revenge
scarlet flame
he was literally garrosh but in a different timeline
scarlet flame
he wanted to invade and conquer our land then just didn't after guldan
garrosh is him tbh
mild thunder
man the fact that they didnt give us the durotan headpiece for orc heritage
makes me so sad
scarlet flame
that armor would look cool if the colors were not so bold
its like neon red for the red version of it
and it just looks off
mild thunder
ye i dont really care for the orc heritage outside of the legs and chest
they're both fine
mild thunder
the legs are actually pretty cool tbh
i wanna be able to use the orc heritage on maghar
because maghar look 1000% cooler
scarlet flame
bro they have so many weird things they refuse to make for everyone
like you already have every race being every class
mounts across all account
why can't orc armor be used on different people
mild thunder
at least we're getting this in 10.2
scarlet flame
get the korkron shit from soo
scarlet flame
mild thunder
i already have it on my sham and i really like it
scarlet flame
its one of the good shaman sets
the rest of them are all the spirit garbage from shoulders type sets
kinda like how every warrior tier set is green
😡
mild thunder
this is the closest ive ever gotten to a durotan mog
minus the shoulders
idk why i used them
scarlet flame
cover them grippers bro
mild thunder
i think i have a better version of it somewhere
scarlet flame
overused because its goated
mild thunder
ive been using my samurai mog on warr for about a year
never gonna change it
recently started replaying ghost of tsushima, now i love it even more
mild thunder
there ya go, that was my best durotan mog
mild thunder
i like the df s2 set a lot
it's okay
like
6/10 imo
s1 set was 2/10
s3 set is -10/10
scarlet flame
i liked s1 set a lot too
mild thunder
s1 set was booooooringggggg
scarlet flame
s3 would look decent if it wasnt fucking puke green
it was smiple and the shoulder+helm effects were nice
mild thunder
s3 would look decent if they scrapped it and started again with a new concept
mild thunder
because they have an incredibly cool class fantasy
sharp meteor
s1 set was 2/10
Look at this guy who doesn't like having his head stuck in a bowling ball.
sharp meteor
s3 would look decent if they scrapped it and started again with a new concept
Lmao. It is a bit rough.
scarlet flame
i didnt mind s1 set it was nice
i would use it tbh
its like a 6/10 for me
s2 is like a 8/10
s3 is probably 3/10 just because its green
if it was metal colored maybe 5/10 for design
mild thunder
Look at this guy who doesn't like having his head stuck in a bowling ball.
it was also just an incredibly generic concept
oooh rocks
oooh fire
havent seen that before
scarlet flame
priest tier once again being god tier
mild thunder
all the warrior sets since sinful have been steadily downhill
sinful was the peak of peaks
sharp meteor
So true.
mild thunder
probably my favourite warrior elite set in the game
scarlet flame
dh set also good
sharp meteor
I like cruel elite a bit more but Sinful is great.
unique fox
Does sinful even count since all plate wearers used the same?
mild thunder
dh set also good
idk why but the boots on virtually every single s3 set look janky as fuck
scarlet flame
zzzzz
mild thunder
these just dont match the set lmao
scarlet flame
hey guys look at me in my greenbean can set
sharp meteor
Yeah, can probably swap those out with the mythic...antorus? Ones.
mild thunder
they look so boxy and weird and not-leathery
sharp meteor
hey guys look at me in my greenbean can set
I actually really like how the boots look.
scarlet flame
wtf even is the theme of these sets
sharp meteor
Just not on human.
mild thunder
I actually really like how the boots look.
i dont even think those are the right boots
they dont have the chains and spikes on them
scarlet flame
you're a furry bro
tribal wedge
In movement the set is a bit better
sharp meteor
i dont even think those are the right boots
Yeah, actual ones have spikes and stuff.
scarlet flame
yeah its very round
unique fox
I dont mind the green but the set looks like 2 different ideas mashed together, the shoulders don't mesh with the chains and spikes all over the gauntlets and boots at all
mild thunder
i hate to be negative but yea it's actually one of the worst warrior sets theyve done
west mural
what u guys getting instead of sporecloak?
scarlet flame
i dont hate negativity when its deserved
unique fox
the boots and gloves need more red fire or the shoulders need more spikes and chains
sharp meteor
they dont have the chains and spikes on them
mild thunder
what u guys getting instead of sporecloak?
we're probably keeping sporecloak, it got a versa buff
scarlet flame
get that furry shit off my screen
sharp meteor
what u guys getting instead of sporecloak?
Might still be sporecloak.
Well, unless they cook up a good embellishment alternative.
scarlet flame
they wont 🙂
unique fox
just out curiousity has anyone tried the infurious helm of vengeance? I'm just wondering what it procs for
sharp meteor
Because shadowflame is like 1% damage and warrior takes too much damage for zen focus thing.
west mural
i see
mild thunder
just out curiousity has anyone tried the infurious helm of vengeance? I'm just w...
we used it s1
it's incredibly mid
not bad, just mid
sharp meteor
just out curiousity has anyone tried the infurious helm of vengeance? I'm just w...
Did like 2-4.5% dmg in s1 and was eh-okay.
but crit nerfed
unique fox
Yeah i'm wondering if it might be good with all the bleeds we're doing
scarlet flame
idk if it scales now tho
sharp meteor
it was good for what it was which was meant to be a 1% dmg increase embellishment
west mural
what about Allied Chestplate of Generosity https://www.wowhead.com/spell=367615/allied-chestplate-of-generosity#comments
1% vers for 3 players 10 sec
unique fox
im gonna make one to test the dam for games where i get trained
mild thunder
what about Allied Chestplate of Generosity https://www.wowhead.com/spell=367615/...
mastery kinda bad, and it competes with a tier piece for a buff that's probably just worse than sporecloak
mild thunder
if we dont use sporecloak we'll probably use that 90% mastery thing
west mural
fury never does, arms soemtimes
unique fox
last time i played with my aug bro i was getting trained a fair bit
scarlet flame
its just there are usually better targets than warriors every match
mild thunder
last time i played with my aug bro i was getting trained a fair bit
they're just bad then, aug needs to be tunneled
it dies if you do
unique fox
yes very likely
mild thunder
arms is the most passively tanky spec in the game
unique fox
just want to test it out though
scarlet flame
its just not worth it to hit warriors most of the time
mild thunder
it's pretty much the last resort to hit unless you have a really good cc combo and the warr has nothing
scarlet flame
every other melee is easier to kill than warriors
maybe not sub rogue tbh but its close imo
sub kinda cracked still
west mural
yea i was gonna mention sub rogue is rly anoying to keep track of
scarlet flame
its more their cds
mild thunder
arms is gonna be a full-haste spec again next season
scarlet flame
they have a lot and all of them are good at avoiding damage
scarlet flame
pls no
mild thunder
im expecting to see 1-2 more big arms changes coming with 10.2 to compensate for the ignore pain nerf
could be some drastic stuff
scarlet flame
the ip nerf is pretty massive tbh
and it kinda fucks with button presses because now you dont have something to use off gcd
mild thunder
they have to know how massive the IP nerf is and they wouldnt do it unless they had something in mind to shift up the rage economy
scarlet flame
even with ip you were sitting at full rage all the time
mild thunder
could be anger management changes, could be a battlelord nerf to shift us into different builds, could be increasing rage costs elsewhere etc.
mild thunder
it would be the least invasive change they could make
dull, but would keep the spec pretty much as is
scarlet flame
idk if the play is to nerf ip just to nerf something else
nerfing ip nerfs out damage too
mild thunder
increasing rage costs wouldnt really be a nerf tho
mild thunder
rage is an invisible resource, increasing costs would only fuel more AM and tactician resets
but we have so much rage that it wouldnt inhibit our rotation in the slightest
scarlet flame
you also lose the off gcd rage dump
so you're now limited to how much AM can proc
even if you increase rage costs
mild thunder
yea but you'd be spending more rage on-gcd to make up for it
ip would just have a greater cost to use since it has no offensive value (which it shouldnt tbh)
scarlet flame
make you really have to think about when to use it
mild thunder
make you really have to think about when to use it
that's what they're aiming at doing by ensuring it no longer contributes to dps
they just have to make 1-2 additional changes to ensure that arms doesnt have the rage to spare anyway
mild thunder
yes
as it stands on ptr, we will still use IP on cooldown
because there's no reason not to
scarlet flame
then it really didn't do anything
mild thunder
that's why i said they need to make 1-2 more changes to follow through
scarlet flame
it just took away dps
mild thunder
because this nerf wasnt enough
west mural
i don't find ignore pain a fun mechanic it's just 1 more thing u need to think about, yes it requires attention and therefore skill but not rly a warrioresque kinda thing, yes it let's u be aggresive while being target wich is a huge plus but still feels weird
mild thunder
to incentivise us to use the rage we would have used on IP on something else
hexed ether
whats the nerf to ignore pain?
mild thunder
otherwise we'll be just as tanky as we are now with slightly (very slightly) less dmg
scarlet flame
doesnt contribute to am anymore
mild thunder
or tactician
hexed ether
when is that happening
mild thunder
10.2
scarlet flame
10.2
mild thunder
i don't find ignore pain a fun mechanic it's just 1 more thing u need to think a...
i think the thematic of it is fine, but it's super unintuitive and just bad for the game to have an off-gcd defensive being a dps boost
mild thunder
ye, and it didnt before 10.0.5
arms was still gcd-locked
IP helps, but it's not needed to maintain our rotation
mild thunder
very slightly
scarlet flame
i dont think its slightly its going to be pretty clear imo
mild thunder
you get 1 less overpower per 11 seconds, and ~3sec longer CD on colsmash
it's not a huge deal
when your rotation is already packed anyway
scarlet flame
in a match thats 4 minutes long thats a lot of less button presses
mild thunder
yes, but it's not like those GCDs are dead without it
that's what im saying
you were gcd-locked before ignore pain
scarlet flame
but the flow of button presses is worse
scarlet flame
no
hexed ether
i dont like how the new tier is buggy either
hexed ether
hopefully they fix before patch
scarlet flame
yeah i mean thats a good point tbh
but from my point of view rn it seems like its going to have dead spots that ip fixed
mild thunder
the rotation is self-fuelling enough that you wont notice it as much as you think you will
IP enhances the rotation but it's not necessary to keep it going
mild thunder
i dont like how the new tier is buggy either
and ye all this will be fixed
scarlet flame
im mostly just talking about the 2-3 times in a match that you used ip to generate a op proc to generate ms
mild thunder
what would be a cool change that would also be SUPER easy to do is just add slam to storm of swords
gives us something to do with all that rage
unique fox
any dps loss is bullshit, war should only be buffed
scarlet flame
adding slam would be cool
mild thunder
im mostly just talking about the 2-3 times in a match that you used ip to genera...
that'll just be filled by the extra exe procs
hexed ether
and ye all this will be fixed
i just hope they leave the seperate sudden death proc in lol
scarlet flame
honestly it might
idk how much i like the tier sets so far
monk tier set is straight up dogshit
warrior tier set is dogshit too i hate it
mild thunder
ww tier is amazingly poorly designed
i love the arms tier
thematically cool
visually cool
fun to play
very strong
mild thunder
it does like 40k
unique fox
arms tier felt like it could be fun with skullsplitter, occasionally proccing 4 sudden deaths in 8 globals
hexed ether
warrior tier set is dogshit too i hate it
i think skullsplitter will be the play to get a proc
scarlet flame
and its like automatic or what
mild thunder
ye
it's literally just an extra 30-40k dmg on top of exe that applies rend for free in aoe
hexed ether
What’s going to happen is warriors are going to run skullsplitter to almost guarantee a sudden death proc then hit ms reapply deep wounds to buff the execute damage to give it more “execute bleed damage” (however long that bleed last) which procs thunderclap which reapplies rend on all targets which is buffed by 15%. Battlefield commander and safeguard will be almost mandatory. Thunderous roar will buff all bleed damage by 5%. I give it a week and we get nerfed lol. I love the idea and the soon to be playstyle of the upcoming warrior but blizz does not like leaving warrior alone.
mild thunder
What’s going to happen is warriors are going to run skullsplitter to almost guar...
what is this copy/pasted from
hexed ether
from me
scarlet flame
sks doesn't remove deep wounds tho
hexed ether
i theorycraft all the time
mild thunder
you'll probably be perma-locked into EP
hexed ether
yeah
mild thunder
builds will just stay like this with like 1 flex point
sks just wont really do relevant dmg in pvp
probably
hexed ether
i disagree but we'll see
mild thunder
take the damage skullsplitter does now - not that much
west mural
also i don't see sharpening not being mandatory if they keep it
west mural
i don't see arms without that
mild thunder
also i don't see sharpening not being mandatory if they keep it
sharpening?
scarlet flame
well no shit lmfao
scarlet flame
why would they ever get rid of it
mild thunder
and even then
west mural
well if sharpen and the new 2 talents are mandatory, they should rework some other talents to make them viable
mild thunder
why?
arms already has some of the best pvp talents available lol
the 2 new talents also wont be mandatory
safeguard will be taken in like 99% of games
BC will be taken where you can spare the slot
tribal wedge
Banner, duel, disarm, sharpen, New interv one, New cry one
mild thunder
but overall Duel, Disarm and banner will still all be more important
tribal wedge
WE have enough viable one bro
west mural
atm all i see is sharpen 100% of the time , banner almost all the time and disarm vs melee or SOS or demolition vs warlocks wich are all ok but the rest i never see
duel is also ok ye
but i rarely see some1 use it
mild thunder
atm all i see is sharpen 100% of the time , banner almost all the time and disar...
disarm, duel, banner, sharpen, SoD, demolition are all incredibly strong
SotC and rebound are the only ones that are objectively weak tbh
and who cares, other classes have like 1-2 good pvp talents
scarlet flame
the execute one is traaaash lmao
ww has 2 good talents
then disarm and the chi heal one
mild thunder
exceute one is fine, but kinda just sits there now
i take it in 2s sometimes
into stuff like feral or ww
just dont run it with massacre
west mural
i mean in comparison it's not bad, i'm just saying they could do a better job at making them viable not just be placeholders
scarlet flame
but 6 of them are viable
mild thunder
i mean in comparison it's not bad, i'm just saying they could do a better job at...
you already have 6 viable ones, and getting 2 more
that's more than enough
6+
mild thunder
ww has 2 pvp talents that are locked in every game and a 3rd slot to meme around
scarlet flame
then some chi generator shit if disarm is useless
mild thunder
because everything else sucks
thick reef
Arms has alot of good talents xD
tribal wedge
Too many viable talent would make just frustrated i Can take only 3
west mural
that's a fair point but i'm asking again why are they there when no1 uses them, what usually happens in good games is when something is never used they change that shit if not next patch the one after that
mild thunder
that's a fair point but i'm asking again why are they there when no1 uses them, ...
the only ones that have no use are SotC and rebound
rebound is new, it probably will be removed eventually
SotC is blizzard memeing, idk why it's still there
thick reef
yea that one is
like the one useless one
lol
and also rebound too
rest of them have their place just depends on matchup
mild thunder
death sentence is cool in certain situations, MnC is kinda underrated imo
mild thunder
MnC would be taken a lot more often if our other talents werent so much stronger
master and commander
scarlet flame
thats the rally one right
mild thunder
ye
thick reef
yea
mild thunder
might be picked up a bit more with BC next season
scarlet flame
yo honestly i think that might be good into shuffle
mild thunder
literally the only straight bad talent is SotC
scarlet flame
that talent + pvp talent = huge rally on low cd
mild thunder
which is a meme
thick reef
yea since shuffle is 3v3 u get more use of it and its good
scarlet flame
no shut up[
mild thunder
charge-weaving meta?????
scarlet flame
and burnt it
thick reef
its not a bigh deal tho
thick reef
lmao
fair enough
and we have other talents to mess around with
its gonna be crazy with the new talents gonna be fun and hopefully we can find a soild 3 of them
west mural
imma actualy mess with the mac one in ss
thick reef
other then mobility
mild thunder
it's super strong
thick reef
yea
mild thunder
you just int both your teammates on a big go
you literally counter rmp for free now
cursive pike
any fury warriors here wanna teach me how to play
mild thunder
any fury warriors here wanna teach me how to play
press bloodthirst
press rampage when it lights up
boom, you're 1800
thick reef
and ur offensive cds r reck and odyns fury 🙂
cursive pike
it looks like everyone uses onslaught
mild thunder
you can, but if you're literally just starting out use the annihilator build without onslaught
check pins for builds
thick reef
if u do end up using it just use that to gen rage
cursive pike
I like annhilator.
looks like alot of variation in stats for the top players. what stats should I make the crafted ring?
haste / mastery looks tempting
mild thunder
i want them to remove versatility and bring back multi-strike and crit dmg as stats
make multi-strike behave like overpower from d4
base 20% chance to multi-strike, cant be increased
increasing the stat increases the %dmg of your multi-strike hit
cursive pike
haste not needed for fury
on murlok.io alot of the top goons are running some haste tho
sharp meteor
Tuning out, no mage/hpal nerfs. 
fallen estuary
idk, Prot into mage is fine
Not untill you reach 2ks. Theyll NEVER let you connect fully. Theyll go you 100%
Wow
Dev got another fucking damage buff
To an ability that hits non tanks for 50k base no mods
sharp meteor
Prot into mage usually hellish.
scarlet flame
shut up about tanks loser
tank specs can leave arenas
no one cool cares about tanks specs
fallen estuary
Where on the doll did you get shield slammed?
fallen estuary
mild thunder
Tuning out, no mage/hpal nerfs. <:deadge:900279927138578432>
tbf, what about mage do you think needs nerfs?
they are pretty low-represented atm and 3s seems to be veering in a more melee-heavy direction
scarlet flame
me personally i think they have to many outs
alter time, up to 2 ice blocks, greater invis, roots, blinks, poly
mild thunder
only frost has 2 blocks
scarlet flame
thats why i said up to
shifting lowers their cds even more
they have all that and most of their damage is from instant cast ice lance and rof
mild thunder
if they removed some of their escapes, they'd have to make them tankier
which would just mean SL mage
which is infinitely less fun
scarlet flame
im just talking personally
id rather hit them and take more than never hit them
spending more than half your match trying to connect is literally the most unfun thing about pvp
while they get to dps you for free
mild thunder
im just pointing out that if we can hit them more
they need to be able to take more hits
scarlet flame
im cool with that
mild thunder
but that was just SL
scarlet flame
i understand you shouldn't 2 hit a mage if you can hit him 200 times
mild thunder
which everyone hated
scarlet flame
i didn't play SL
mild thunder
warriors hated it, mages hated it
scarlet flame
idk why warriors would hate it, sounds like they were op