pvp

[mild thunder]

Anyone that thinks either warrior spec needs buffs is on some Heisenberg-produced copium

99% purity, pharmaceutical-grade, drug empire style copium

[ivory granite]

delusional fr.

[unique fox]

Warrior should get longer range on their attacks like rogues do with acrobatic strikes

We're the ones wielding 7ft long swords

[ivory granite]

what is arms burst rotation rn

[fallen estuary]

smack

and die right after

[mild thunder]

Depends on your build, but generally just the same as your regular rotation

[mild thunder]

You can stack overpower twice before colossus smash, but that’s really it… there’s no nuance to Arms

And bladestorm for hurricane buff

[ivory granite]

\shit

does arms still do less burst damage than fury

single target

[limber relic]

not impossible but hard yes

[spice hornet]

@mild thunder arms is lowkey bad rn

@fallen estuary wizards just own me man on my arms

Arms is too weak

[mild thunder]

We all know survival needs the most buffs

[violet fossil]

it’s a caster meta

[violet fossil]

https://youtu.be/qrs7LnmdNy8?si=NPJMgWK8o6HLyv0Y

[mild thunder]

[violet fossil]

survival does look fun ngl

[wheat jay]

Cuz it is fun

Reject zugzug

Embrace megamind

[mild thunder]

Survival is the main character spec

[wheat jay]

Ye

And if you play jungle or KFC you can have 2 pets

One Raptor and one either cat or monkey

[mild thunder]

Very true, my friend

[sage raptor]

Buff outlaw

[sharp meteor]

Shuffle position is by spec.

[spice hornet]

aug/dps/healer comps are still so fucking broken

[mild thunder]

aug burst is actually gross

considering they're not supposed to be a regular dps

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, upheavaled some guy for like 250k into 240k aoe breath

actually just snaps melee cleaves in half

[mild thunder]

we went full derp-mode into a fdk/aug team and both got knocked up bu erupt or whatever its called... died before we hit the ground

tbf we positioned like retards because we were tryna oneshot the mw in the opener

[sharp meteor]

FDK aug is like quite possibly the most anti-clump/deathball comp

that's like actually galaxy damage into melee cleaves

[mild thunder]

yea my brain just didnt register that it was frost instead of unholy

normally we can either oneshot or force trinket + cocoon out of MWs in the opener as jungle, so we were on auto-pilot

[mild thunder]

@sharp meteor you do a lotta keys, right?

[sharp meteor]

A reasonable amount, yeah.

Although not terribly high.

[mild thunder]

you ever played rogue in pve? thinking of maining it in raid and m+ next season

[sharp meteor]

Outlaw is super fun.

I haven't touched Subtlety since Sinful.

Assa unplayable broken mess in keys, I think.

[teal hedge]

Honestly, it might be over for fungbros when it comes to wow

[mild thunder]

i love ww, but it's super depressing when all its damage is tied into ToD gimmicking

and it doesnt actually feel like im contributing

[teal hedge]

Bitchass burger chain is two weeks late on notifying me wether I get the job or not

[mild thunder]

i just want something mobile with good utility and a high skill-cap, and surely rogue has that

[teal hedge]

You are not going to believe this

But I think you're looking for Arms

[mild thunder]

arms is kinda mobile, that's it

:p

arms "utility" is sometimes pressing rally lol

you used to be able to do neat stuff like challenging shout and parry to tank mobs for your group for a bit in SL, but we dont have challenging anymore

[teal hedge]

You goons should take the grand strategy-pill

[mild thunder]

ww could do some awesome stuff if FoF parried outside of pvp

[dreamy moat]

ffs someone gifted me a sub to flarkness

i dont wanna support that idiot

[mild thunder]

[sage raptor]

Why were you watching him then?

[dreamy moat]

because he psted me talking shit in a shuffle
i didn't know he streamed
came up in my recommendations and found out

that 5 minute view put me in the criteria to be randomly gifted a sub

[sage raptor]

boooo

[obsidian temple]

i should have stayed with fury for shuffle

arms is worthless if your team blows ass

[ruby temple]

Playing with a friend who's just stepping into arena 3s for the first time. They're a mage. I'm like ok I'm gonna open on priest a lil just to get rage rolling, hang back and let rogue/mage open on me and we'll go from there. I start running in and the mage follows right behind me and dies out in the open in opener (fire+sub).

I couldn't help but laugh they thought I wanted them to get in there with me I respected the hell out of it

[whole tulip]

What's better for warrior?

Destro or boomie for 3's

[mild thunder]

boomie

[dreamy moat]

banned from his chat for asking for a refund of the gifted sub lmfao

(i know you can't refund them duh)

[mild thunder]

The only good streamers are bajheera and Bicmex

No cap

[west mural]

since war suffers from movement imparing effects vs casters and benefits from haste atm, has any1 tried troll as race? thoughts?

[shy aurora]

I like joe stream 😂

[mild thunder]

Not worth

Almost every slow in the game is either spammable or has a cooldown shorter than its duration

And the haste buff is only 10% on a 3min CD… it’s okay, but far from anything to write home about. If you want help in those departments, just go gnome or goblin

[dense herald]

Whats the best fury buodl

[shy aurora]

All works, play what you enjoy most.

[whole tulip]

Is arcane mage warrior good?

[heavy iron]

Saw Bajheera talking about still running skull splitter even after nerfs yet almost all the top players on Murlok.io use the same build which doesn’t take it. Opinions on if it’s good in arenas?

Is it called skull splitter or am I high? Skull something. Smasher?

[muted surge]

Bajheera isn’t a top player

[heavy iron]

Yes but he has significantly more experience playing warrior than myself which is why I’m trying to find out if I’m missing out on something by not taking it.

[muted surge]

You are missing that it doesn’t matter what you pick until top 0.x%

He prob just likes sks compred to every normal person

[mild thunder]

yes

[mild thunder]

it's not worth

and to be clear, bajheera hasnt really played this latest patch at all

[charred onyx]

looking at it, i dont think skullsplitter is a bad option for damage, maybe not the best though. Bajheera is also a fan of doing bgs a lot where something like skullsplitter would be really fun to mess with

[charred onyx]

yay i finally played enough to hit 2100 for the pvp enchant

[thick reef]

well done mate

[charred onyx]

now the question is. do i go through the slog of lfg to find teamates and try to get higher or do i casually pvp now

[hushed plank]

Depends if you hit that 2100 in 3’s or SS

[charred onyx]

ive been 2400 before and i think im better now than i was in bfa. played fury in bfa too. the main problem i have with trying that hard is the glad mount isnt that interesting this time around. the dragon its on is kinda meh to me

so im gonna wait for a season with a cooler glad mount

and ya this time i hit in solo shuffle because i cant be bothered with lfg for 3v3s. which i guess answered my own question on whether i want to or not.

[onyx marlin]

im 20 points away from elite, watch me getting 0-6 next lobby

[charred onyx]

that would be the worst feeling

[onyx marlin]

just did a 6-0

so even worse if i get a 0-6 now

[charred onyx]

its kind of funny, i usually only play fury since like WoD but the one time fury was just super op in the later half of shadowlands, i had quit the game

well i didnt quit during that time but i quit in season one

[onyx marlin]

i cant play fury, dont have fun with it

always arms, doesnt matter if its meta or not

[charred onyx]

arms is usually the meta spec anyways so its not that long you go without it being the better spec to play

[hushed plank]

You a gnome war in this meta ^

[charred onyx]

im also lover of transmog. i could never be a gnome. too msall

[hushed plank]

Same

[onyx marlin]

undead masterrace

[charred onyx]

dragonflight is the first time since MoP that ive actually played and kinda liked arms warrior but i still like fury more for fun

although i preferred arms in MoP because i dont remember much about fury but im pretty sure it was a big rng spec

[onyx marlin]

i remember the banners

good times

or was that wod?

[charred onyx]

only thing i remember about fury in MoP was a bloodbathe bladestorm could do some damage

WoD removed banners

i think

[hushed plank]

@onyx marlin what build you running for SS btw ?

[charred onyx]

oh now that i got my enchant i could do arms ss and see if i can get the same rating as my fury

gonna run skullsplitter out of spite for it not being the meta choice

oh i remember why skullsplitter is problem now lol. i dont wanna give up these talents

hmm

is shockwave a must have ability, ive never not used it but im curious

[violet fossil]

it wasn’t til recently

this season

[charred onyx]

ya thats what i meant

since the changes to the stuns

[onyx marlin]

the typical one but without thunderclap

[violet fossil]

so u prolly can get away with not running it

[charred onyx]

my problem is, arms has too many buttons. i have my keybinds set up for fury but arms is adding extra

the solution i had before was to stop using skullsplitter but i really wanna use it for fun lol. im stubborn

nvm i fixed it

[ruby temple]

I decided to actually sit down and push solo this morning (just been doing none to one a week because of life) and got my 1800. Blizzard tried to troll me with the #gatekeep #gaslight #girlboss lobbies. last three had a bear druid who got tilted and afked out. second to last was me as arms then a balance,arcane, and destro lock. went 4-2 that time. then the last one was ret/ww/MM. hunter and rdruid were tilted out of the universe but was still able to get the 4-2 😎

[charred onyx]

nice

i jsut realized ive gone this whole time without the crafted pvp boots

[ruby temple]

oof

[charred onyx]

🙂

ya i meant to get them and i just forgot

how big are they in terms of power

[ruby temple]

i think they're nice and probably the best ones you can get but they're not gonna be the difference of hundreds of rating or anything

but you can basically guarentee the proc every 30 seconds with SB so it's nice

[charred onyx]

well i have em now

[charred onyx]

wait i just had a teamate boomkin hit a shaman for a 214k half moon

not even a full moon

[heavy iron]

Im starting to wish I had gone fury and not arms. Double bladestorm being BiS is kinda boring

Kinda like the spear/bladestorm build but doesn’t look like anyone uses it in serious groups

[shut tangle]

hey do you guys have a fury warrior talent tree that uses shattering?

[charred onyx]

BgEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFEAAAAAAAAAAQICIAEtkGCJRDEkIBEJBkkkESSSESkWIJSQSAAAQCEE

[lavish quest]

Just don't play double bladestorm... the reck talent is good too. I run it more often than double bladestorm. You get some phat mortal strikes

[shut tangle]

Thank you prideful

[heavy iron]

Fury depends on crit yea?

Running haste based arms build atm. Didn’t want to fully regear for fury.

[limber relic]

mastery

[limber relic]

double BS is pog

slow and steady wins the race. 42/100 legends wins

[sharp meteor]

Double spin seems fun, though.

[hushed plank]

Double BS was nice when we had mortal strike with it any chance you run that talent @limber relic

[limber relic]

u can stil unhinged?

i stil play it

[hushed plank]

Really ? Mind shooting me your talents ?

[lavish quest]

I mean I don't got anything against double BS. I used to run it by default, but I tried out the reck build after seeing some do it and I like how it feels as well

When I do I usually pass on unhinged tho and more just use it for CC avoid when bursting

[limber relic]

it dpeends, this is my double dps build tho

swap thunderclap for concussive blows+wrcking against double caster

and also change warbreaker into blunt

[spice hornet]

any addon or WA or tracking party members DRs

[hushed plank]

@limber relic ty that the same build you using for SS as well or just 2’s?

[limber relic]

yea kinda

[spice hornet]

so many dog shit mm hunters now

[mild thunder]

Diminish

[balmy solar]

Is it worth losing Odyn's fury against getting onslaught in an annihilator build?

[heavy iron]

How do y’all deal with going double dps into heal/dps in 2s feels sooooo lost most times.

Been playing Arms/Destro Lock and Arms/Ele Sham and just feels like instant loss when a healer is in lobby.

[mild thunder]

By not doing it

[mild thunder]

This is an instant loss. Arms does nothing without a healer,

If you can’t oneshot in the opener (which you pretty much never will), you lose

[wispy drum]

Hero push dead because my PC just died.

Pour one out for me boys. It'd probably give me a stroke anyways.

[sharp meteor]

You don't play those comps as Arms.

They simply don't work outside brute forcing people in opener at chill cap mmr.

[lavish quest]

Warrior's not the right class for you if you want to double DPS 2s. Fury might fair a little better for it, but even then probably not because then you're just easier to CC.

[mild thunder]

omg bro hardcore is so challenging bro its real gaming not like retail bro (i only fight low lvl mobs)

classic andies stay coping

[atomic orchid]

Would prefer if they scratch the mmo and make WoW a soulslike

[idle falcon]

i am back

@mild thunder

[quaint osprey]

Do you now also press slam on fury?

or only if you go giga slam build

[idle falcon]

press slam only if u run out of buttons on the annighalator build

giga slam idk

and pretty sure you don't use it at all in raging blow build

[mild thunder]

only this, ye

it is definitely worthwhile if you're already playing raging blow

it can easily crit for over 100k

[quaint osprey]

Is there any way to win a Skirmish Lobby with 2 fires in the enemy team

every fucking round there are mages

what the fuck is going on

[muted surge]

Just run spell block

And interrupting shout

[fallen estuary]

@sharp meteor skullsplitter aug vokers insanely powerful

Me n swole was doing renas on his evoker and first opener i would 100-0 unsuspecting warlocks with 1 splitter

The ms buff does seem to help as well with bleed build

We had to find like 4 diff healers untill we found one who actually played good lol

[green anchor]

frost and fire are easy 3 button specs is probably why

is greater pyroblast still a thing?

[mild thunder]

Mortal strike, overpower, execute…

[green anchor]

it's not easy being melee vs a mage though

[mild thunder]

Usually not that easy being a mage and getting trained by melee either

[green anchor]

Why's everyone crying that game's unplayable vs mages then

[mild thunder]

You even look at a mage the wrong way and they implode no cap

[mild thunder]

They’re not

[green anchor]

every day there's at least one person

[mild thunder]

Cringelord skyhold people do

Because they think if arms isn’t an easy 2 button gladiator that it sucks and wow is ending

[green anchor]

that's Fury in SS

[mild thunder]

The reality is that the game overall is pretty damn balanced at the moment

There’s still a few dumb gimmicks here and there, like the Ele build, but they’re not that egregious and are pretty easy to play around/counter

[green anchor]

Somone bring up Aug evoker pvp

[mild thunder]

Aug is cringe, sure, but it’s been nerfed a fair chunk and it’s not an egregiously overtuned spec anymore

[charred onyx]

@balmy solar the build i linked is just the first option i had available. i do prefer onslaught even with annihilator for the pure dps but i think odyns would likely perform better in a heavy melee lobby. thats just the default build ive been playing so far

plus i sometimes run into the problem of odyns fury cleaving and breaking cc on healers

so really its just a personal preference to me, only linked the build to show someone what type of left side tree you could do to have shattering throw

[magic wing]

The ceiling is very high on mage

[mild thunder]

Easily one of the highest in the game alongside rogue and survival

And feral, kinda

[sage raptor]

Every spec in the game is

[green anchor]

unironically?

I've been playing Resto Druid and it's not

[sage raptor]

Probably but if I said X spec was complicated, someone would say "nuh uh"

Because everyone plays every spec

It seems

[green anchor]

Well you can always ask Galachad

[charred onyx]

the only complicated spec the one in your mind

[fickle forge]

All rotations are easy

They're meant to be

[green anchor]

Indeed I love pve in my pvp

[cursive pike]

Is fury warrior good now

[green anchor]

yes

[fallen estuary]

a great reminder why i dont play fucking arms anymore

deva evoker chunking 33% hp per microwave tick and pala casting out constant 100k verdicts

whole match and with pala not running partner freedom

1-6 0 help whole game rooted and melted

[green anchor]

game's balanced tho

[muted surge]

I don’t see you using spell block

[fallen estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/look-up-scared-willem-dafoe-gif-17761333

if only arms had spellblock ong fr

[teal hedge]

Reflect baybee

[limber relic]

how do i get 1-5 in solo and lose 65 points

and then win 5-1 and gain 30

XD

gg blizzurd

[pine pine]

Rating change in shuffle is definitely a system that needs some tweaks lmao. I easily hit 1800 in 3s on my war but I'm in this MMR hell in shuffle where almost every game is one healer going 0-6 so all the dps go 3-3 and no one progresses

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, placement range kind of scuffy, especially as healer.

You just sit there getting 3-3's because there's one guy in blues getting parsed on.

[pine pine]

I can handle that and carry as other specs I play, but it doesn't feel possible as arms because we don't really have much to help a healer that's struggling like hybrids do

[mild thunder]

In terms of dps rotation, pretty much every spec is fairly simple. In terms of overall skill-cap, based on the depth of their toolkit and how difficult it is to execute, mage is definitely one of the highest skill-cap classes

That isn’t even remotely controversial lol

[tribal wedge]

Facts

[fallen estuary]

@sharp meteor notice someone particular in this match?

i went root spec the last 2 games and the rogue was spinning like fucking crazy, most likely him slamming his mouse from being in 20000 roots especially from the shaman as well

[wispy drum]

Thicc

[sage raptor]

You said exactly what I said but with more words

[mild thunder]

No, you said half of what I said and then some extra dumb shit on the side

[obsidian temple]

enchant earned

im out

[sage raptor]

With a reading comprehension like yours I'd say the same thing. I said "If I said X was complicated, someone would say 'nuh uh'". Meaning if I say boomy for example is objectively one of the more complex specs, someone would say it's not. Obviously they're all easy for reasons but some specs are objectively more complex than others. You CANT say that if you say a specific spec was complex, someone would say it's not.

It happens literally everytime

[fallen estuary]

LMAO HOLY SHIT

Disrupting shouts SO fucking powerful

i just won a counter lobby with disrupting shout

[sage raptor]

It do be juicy

[fallen estuary]

6 sec silence ontop of a 3 sec pummel

GAW

DAYUM

[fallen solar]

And yet these “streamers” put tank specs in f tier

Have y’all fought a bear tank in world PvP? Fucking raid bosses

[fallen estuary]

its cause they cannot play it

[fallen solar]

Bear tanks hurt

A lot

[fallen estuary]

into a melee lobby ye, also thorns OP af for bear tank in a melee lobby

caster lobbies just decimate tanks ong fr

[mild thunder]

Seems like you’re talking more about skill-floor than skill-ceiling tbh, but either way what I said just wasn’t what you said

[fallen solar]

I chose the wrong bear to mess with cause he turned around and whooped my ass

[mild thunder]

I mostly agree with you, but what I said wasn’t the same lol

[fallen estuary]

usually against guardian druids you just ignore them and CC them

since they really dont have any other utility other than themselves to protect

so if you cc em and kill the healer or dps youll easily win against em

[sage raptor]

I'm not talking about either. I'm talking about people's reactions when you say a spec is more complex than others.

[sage raptor]

Remember the 30 second CC immunity in SL?

[fallen solar]

Well honestly I haven’t fought any in arena

[sage raptor]

That was cool

[fallen solar]

Just world PvP

[fallen estuary]

i have LMAO it was funny as fuck, we both 3-3 in a lobby andwe were just hitting eachother while the dps did their thing

[fallen solar]

Lol

[fallen estuary]

im prot btw

[fallen solar]

Yeah I haven’t been on warrior in a min

Been playing ele

And Ret but Ret is boring

Strong

But boring

[mild thunder]

Cool, that’s not what I was talking about

[fallen estuary]

idk why tf ret honestly hasnt been nerfed to the dirt, theyre practically as bad as a frost mage but without the roots

but mages first is the nerf prior

[fallen solar]

Yeah Ret hits way too hard

[sage raptor]

Once undead can be pallys, it's over for these fuckers.

RAHHHHH

[fallen solar]

That would be sick

But

https://tenor.com/view/wow-for-the-alliance-gif-11541819

[sage raptor]

Oof sorry pal, not a fan of tea parties. We box like men.

[fallen solar]

But the tea is good!

[sage raptor]

You do your nails too? Are you gonna bake me a cake and watch me blow out the candles?

Because that would be nice :)

[fallen solar]

I can call you daddy also

[violet fossil]

rather have tea parties than smell like shit coming from those teepees you call “orgrimmar”

[sage raptor]

Oh you mean Gamon? Yeah he won't stop yelling

Bro

What if Gamon is actually the the one pulling all the strings?

[fallen solar]

Only thing good about the horde is the blood elf chicks. I fucked my wife the other night thinking of one of them. Idc

[violet fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/uhhhhh-gif-18728531

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

[sage raptor]

I mean

Not wrong tbh

[fallen solar]

I’ll have her cosplay one day

[violet fossil]

[sage raptor]

They have no right being that hot tbh

[fallen estuary]

got pics

[sage raptor]

All my belfs are female because they're hot and the males look too gay

[fallen solar]

Well. Yes but I cannot share because I have respect. Even though I just told y’all all that

[fallen estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-gif-23674110

[violet fossil]

need explicit details then

[sage raptor]

When you get the cosplay let us know >.>

And show pics

And stuff

[fallen solar]

Oh I will. She hates games

She plays games on her phone

She knows I’m a nerd though

Also. Didn’t they nerf WW?

Cause I’m still getting hit hard af by those kicks

[violet fossil]

like a small % nerf to rsk

[mild thunder]

After reading this, I am 100% sure you don’t have a wife and have never slept with a real woman

Now if you said night elf, that’d be a different story

[wheat jay]

Nelf chicks be bussin

[mild thunder]

Fem belfs look like aliens

[sharp meteor]

tfw no amazon gf

[sharp meteor]

Ya bear in arena/shuff is a rough go

[fallen solar]

Wifed up and playing WoW at work. What more could I want?!

Night elf’s are bad too tbh

[delicate parrot]

the click life

[rotund trellis]

lol wtf are these triple monks lobbies? I got a mfer healing 11 milion in a game

cancer

[limber relic]

lego. 100 more ratings for glad and 40 more solo shuffle rounds for legends

and then we done

[thick reef]

Hell yeah brother keep it up

[limber relic]

❤️❤️

[spice hornet]

why am I queueing into abrua and aiden at 2350 mmr?

playing rmp

such losers

beat some awc players

for your glad bro

its cool

[limber relic]

https://www.twitch.tv/seifcham/v/1916452534?sr=a&t=0s

Poor bualock

😂

Absolutly destroyed

200k+ dps

[random fractal]

0 rating

[sharp meteor]

It's actually wild recognizing most the people I queue into at 2200-2300 from sl

there's not even really a pool of players it's more like a puddle

at least until the last month

[mild thunder]

im gonna become an rmp main next season

[fallen estuary]

Whats that healer cced addon?

[pale minnow]

Bro how u doing in solo q vs hunters, mages

I faced triple hunter in a solo q lobby and i got completely fucked, my healers didn't dispelled a single root, or ft i afked like half of the games and when i reached on hunter boom freedom couldn't slow, couldn't do shit, this was the worst game of my life lol

Literally every hunter, mm bm, survi

[unique fox]

im watching this warlock streamer rn whos drunk af and passing out as his desk lol

what playing lock does to an mf

[random fractal]

i want to make a rogue named john cena, stay in stealth permanently and just sap people in battlegrounds

trollge

penultimate of wow gameplay

[toxic cove]

this is why I leveled and geared a rogue on wow classic era for when im really bored

perma positioned in STV 😄

[random fractal]

being a massive asshole is the most fun way to play this game LMAO

[toxic cove]

exactly, the sole purpose of WoW is to make the opposing player smash their headset / keyboard

[candid citrus]

truth be told it is kinda fun to be a bully in this game. i do however draw the line at camping lowbies. killem once then move on imo

[limber relic]

Weak aura

[limber relic]

Its tough. Hit what you can tbh.

[limber relic]

0 ratings is fine. I just want legends wins

[dreamy moat]

such a shit workout atm ffs

[small silo]

What’s better in 3s paired with aug arms or fury ?

[fickle forge]

Rare moment where arms tops dmg

[limber relic]

😂

[green anchor]

holy shit

when Destruction warlock receives destruction

[limber relic]

Lmao

[charred onyx]

feel like marksman didnt need that damage buff they gave them

a couple weeks back

nobody deserves buff. nerf everybody but me

thats the way

[limber relic]

200k normal hit snipershot

[charred onyx]

pretty sure aimed shot can get close to 200. like 150k on some targerts

[slender epoch]

Hello, anyone playing fury in 3s, and what comp do you play?

[charred onyx]

im not sure how good it is atm but i remember fury kfc was pretty good before

[slender epoch]

I rly enjoy with fury more than arms, i wonder can fury work with ret pala or with enha shamy(turbo)

[charred onyx]

it still has ms so it works with most arms comps

[slender epoch]

Ye thats true i will try something for sure, thanks for answer mate

[cursive kiln]

Hey! I recently got into retail PvP. I'm playing arms, doing some arena with two friends(Disc Priest & BM Hunter).

I also keep warmode on and do world pvp whenever I can find another player out in the world, and this is where I find my biggest issue pops up: In 1v1's, I just can't seem to kill retribution paladins. I do what I can to bait wings and kite, but the dmg output combined with the seemingly limitless self healing just gets me in the end. Is it purely a skill issue, or is it an unfavorable matchup for me? Any chance for some tips on how to deal with them?

[limber relic]

Unfavorable matchup. A good ret will just outheal you and or just kite u forever.

[fickle forge]

SS can't crit

[cursive kiln]

Ty for the reply. I know I have a lot to learn, but it is sort of good to know that my malding is not entirely unjustified.

[tough lake]

Spriest, Arcane mage or Hunter, which is the best team mate for warriors right now?

[fickle forge]

SP and mage are both fire

WPX is a lot easier to pull off than WMX though

[tough lake]

Ty

Been trying to climb 3s as KFC, will swap to Sp asap

[fickle forge]

@wheat jay He's not a believer smh

Weak KFC abandoners

[tough lake]

Even if I do enuff/highest DMG as BM(I hate SV right now, and I get disarmed or trained as MM) , trap the healer properly...we still lose a lot...

Thought SP might be easier for the team

We're both 2-2.1 in 2s right bow

Now*

Any tip is more than appreciated though

[fickle forge]

Hope you aren't doing warr+hunter in 2s

[wheat jay]

KFC best comp every season

Most fun, most skillful, nothing counters it

It can stop EVERY go in the game

[tough lake]

No sir, individually 😂

[fickle forge]

E V E R Y go

[tough lake]

I've never played warr so I can't give advice to my mate

And we seem to lack defensive or awareness I guess?

Like most optimum time to intervene/fear etc

[green anchor]

Classes aren't balanced for 1v1

World pvp favors rogues lol

[cursive kiln]

Classes as in -all- classes, or just a few of them?

[wheat jay]

So you're the hunter?

Stop shooting blanks fam, might do more dmg

[green anchor]

Blizzard doesn't balance them around 1v1 but for 3v3 arenas

[tough lake]

Ay yoo 😂

[wheat jay]

What spec do you play?

[cursive kiln]

I see! I guess I'll just keep on practicing then. Arena does feel like a whole different beast entirely, and a lot of fun with your mates.

[green anchor]

for sure

world pvp is just a bad experience

unless you also gank others with your mates

[cursive kiln]

🙂

[cursive kiln]

Granted, we did a lot more world pvp in Season of mastery. Now it's hard to come across players out in the open I feel, and I don't get many encounters even if I play horde on an alliance dominated server

[green anchor]

I guess pvp interest dies out really quick few months into a season

People fuck around then find out

[charred onyx]

there was more of a reason to run world pvp in season 1 as well before arenas came out

[green anchor]

there are no pvp world quests in Zaralek right?

[charred onyx]

i believe there are

[tough lake]

BM right now, can play all 3specs,

[green anchor]

maybe I didn't see them because of WM off 🤔

[wheat jay]

Chads play survi

[mild thunder]

man up, play survival

[wheat jay]

Or so I Heard

[mild thunder]

i have also heard this

[wheat jay]

Could be the case then

[mild thunder]

we cant both be wrong

[tough lake]

Not Chad enuff to do that lmao

I feel too squishy compared to the BFA version

[mild thunder]

just kite 4head

nah jk, just go full W key

the best defensive is killing them before they kill you

[wheat jay]

True

Bm is wack

[mild thunder]

i refuse to play any other hunter specs beside sv

[wheat jay]

I did bm last season in shuffle

And in 3s with Mud cuz he did 0 dmg and we needed more bomba

[tough lake]

So hit me up if you guys have any tips for my warrior

[mild thunder]

i thought about trying mm

but then i remembered im a man with a dignity

and i decided against it

[tough lake]

He's playing arms , if that means anything

[charred onyx]

i struggle with double casters, i dont like going behind the pillar

like i do it but man do i not like playing the game

when i have to

its why i could never play a rogue or mage

[limber relic]

Kinda only way to win. U will never win by dmg against doubt caster

Ss its diffrent tho

[charred onyx]

i know, im basically just saying i dont wanna play the game when i que into to many double caster comps. sucks the fun out of it for me

well specific double caster comps

[limber relic]

I agree

Altho i played against affli/destro/fire in ss yday

6winz

[candid citrus]

who runs with war mode off??? must be an arms warrior lol

[green anchor]

obviously

[idle falcon]

@mild thunder YOOO

ITS ME

[mild thunder]

howdy

[fickle forge]

Locks you can kinda just hard train down

Run them over

SP as well

[limber relic]

Yeah kinda

Depends tho. 3s its not that simple

[fickle forge]

Skill issue

Take the L instead of running away

That's the real L

[limber relic]

Take the D*

[charred onyx]

in season one i loved having war mode on while doing mythic plus. go to the stone before the dungeon starts and kill everyone trying to summon. specially in the legion dungeons. have the champion helper that aoe stuns everyone for like 6 seconds and just kill everyone because nobody has a pvp trinket on to get out

[limber relic]

Ok today its time to push 2300-2400 in 3s

And get the remaining 40 wins for legends

Legoo

I belive

[green anchor]

gl

[thick reef]

Good luck mate ill give the stream a watch in abit if it’s up 😉

[limber relic]

@green anchor @thick reef ❤️ ty guys

Ill be live at 17:00 server time

[shy aurora]

Get it done bruddaahh @limber relic

[limber relic]

❤️❤️

[charred onyx]

isnt that much later today

ya server time is only an hour ahead for me so its definitely much later

[limber relic]

its rn

[charred onyx]

i thought 1700 was in the evening

am i just dumb

or are you in europe

ah definitely europe

[fallen estuary]

Alright bros

Back to the prot grynd

After that bullshit healer griefing incident

[charred onyx]

its probably not gonna be a thing but i wish there was a version of prot that used a 2 hander and shield like a spear shield combo so i can be a spartan

[fallen estuary]

It gives me your rating or you wont get hurt - prot warrior in a melee lobby

[vital breach]

Guys how is Arms doing in 2s with hpriest ? Good or better with another heal

[ruby temple]

If your friend wants to play hpriest no matter the meta you should let him, he's probably going to perform better at what he likes vs the "best" class

[sharp meteor]

That'd be swell.

Sad that glad stance got scrapped.

Sad that fury can't really play double 1hs

[charred onyx]

id be fine with them removing SMF and just letting fury transmog their 2 handers into one handers. could even add a passive to them that lets it happen or something

i have tons of one handed transmogs i cant use on fury because of titans grip just being better at everything

[vital breach]

@ruby temple he wants to try hpriest and he wants to feel the synergy between DPS and heal, so I AM asking if there is synergy between those 2

[ruby temple]

For twos? Sure arms and any healer plays well

[vital breach]

Is there anything hpriest do better for awar than other heal

[fallen solar]

DHs have self healing. Idk what streamer said they booty cheeks but a good DH is not dying

[thick reef]

Aug evokers + dev fun in solo queue lost 100% WR to em

Also to add, why do evokers feel the constant urge to drag you from your target when you have cds running ect ect, they love to just fuck with you while longing the round

[sharp meteor]

Fly gives big shield.

[sage raptor]

An evoker pulled me los of the healer and I died

[thick reef]

Fly is troll

[heavy iron]

Win 5/6 rounds of SS. Get 20 rating. FeelsBadMan

[spice hornet]

it still honestly baffles me that rogue cloak can remove disarm

with that shitty talent

just

lmao

the map pool this week is actually so horrible too

blades edge 4x in a row

[fickle forge]

I'm a 2s warrior now

Sub rogue izi

Les go

[fickle forge]

You should body DH on arms

[fickle forge]

Rdruid/fistweaver

[mild thunder]

Prevoker feels great with warrior too imo

[fickle forge]

Thought it was ass when I played it

I could never figure what the synergy was

[mild thunder]

Idk it just feels like a budget rdruid in a lotta ways… floats around, pve heals, can kite well, spams sleep cc, nice burst

[fickle forge]

The only time I had a synergy was when we played Spear and hit the breath with walls

[mild thunder]

Fair enough, I spent the majority of my time in s1 pushing with a disc priest and anything feels better than that

[fickle forge]

Disc lowkey slaps rn

[mild thunder]

Must be very, very lowkey cause I don’t see it

[fickle forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/872557080819691591/1141525002185879572/image.png

[mild thunder]

If you hit that 2 minute mark with a disc, your health isn’t going back up

[fickle forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/872557080819691591/1141526797800980540/image.png

[mild thunder]

The dmg from disc is nice but I’d never choose it over an hpriest unless I just wanted to Zerg games

[fickle forge]

Was actually dumb as hell

Getting rotted by sub+disc

[mild thunder]

Legit when you hit 2 minutes disc doesn’t have the throughput to get your health back up

It’s hilarious

[fickle forge]

Doesn't matter when sub is invincible

With their 10 walls

[mild thunder]

Sounds like a

Looks like a

Feels like a

Smells like a

Skill issue

[fickle forge]

I luckily haven't lost to sub yet cause arms is even more impervious

[mild thunder]

Impossible, arms is F tier and everything about it needs to be buffed

[fickle forge]

My highest damp games are vs sub rogues though

Between their 2 charges evasion, phys debuff cleanse, disarm, gouge, 2 charges vanish, meld, double step and unslowable sprint etc.

[mild thunder]

They have 2 charges of evasion?

[fickle forge]

Cloak

[mild thunder]

Sprint is unslowable?

[fickle forge]

Yes

With the PvP talent thing

You can't slow them for like 4 sec or smth

[mild thunder]

Do any of them take it?

[fickle forge]

Some so

Cloak, disarm and unslowable

They drop duel for it, but they're never killing arms in duel anyway

[mild thunder]

Hmmm maybe, but I don’t think they’re ever dropping duel for it

[fickle forge]

I've gone vs no bomb and duel sub teams

They'll never kill in them, it's about living

Arms giga chunks now, no way to live the sustained warr dmg

[mild thunder]

Maybe, but I don’t think many of them are really doing that… you don’t have to kill in duel to get value out of it when you can still force a ton of CDs

It just accelerates the rate at which they peel defensives from you

[fickle forge]

I'll be frank, unless it's blades I just sit the duel and never worry

And I'd respond to blades anyway

I'm not even running with Rdruid rn, if I have HoTs on me I can spam /laugh at him the whole duel

I don't think you should ever lose vs sub+healer as arms in 2s rn

[mild thunder]

I agree

[fickle forge]

You have 50 stops and you don't die with IP and IV

[mild thunder]

Sub/healer just feels like a waste of playing sub

[pastel kernel]

Hey guys, im new to arms in pvp, can someone share a talent page with me?

[mild thunder]

A warrior main finally not playing victim and pretending their class is F- tier

Amazin

[pastel kernel]

for arenas if possible

struggling with what to pick

[mild thunder]

Pins

[pastel kernel]

Thanks mate

[fickle forge]

Just copy top build

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/arms-warrior-pvp-talents-and-builds

Can't go wrong with DR+Clap

[fickle forge]

I'm a spear enjoyer rn though

[mild thunder]

Op as fuck, I only hit 150k explosive shots smh

[fickle forge]

Cloth wearers inferiority

Most killed lock on the planet

[mild thunder]

I think the best numbers I’ve hit this season were two back-to-back 150k kill shots on an mm hunter

Can also easily do ~350k in 2 globals with chakrams, explosive and flanking

[fickle forge]

When are you pulling this off? @wheat jay

[wheat jay]

pulled it off before what do you mean lol

[fickle forge]

No you didn't

Not with me

[wheat jay]

bro you smoking crack

[fickle forge]

Or our KFC

[wheat jay]

ye cuz you never pull any numbers when i play iwth you either

you ain't giving me numbers

[fickle forge]

Yes I do

[wheat jay]

i ain't giving you any either

the only things you pull on me are tricks

lies

and deceptions

[fickle forge]

You just don't notice cause you're screaming like a girl while running

When am I witnessing Gigachadtji pulling crazy numbers in melee?

[wheat jay]

bitch u wot

ill clobber you to the ground

[fickle forge]

Maybe just Q with me instead of being hardstuck at work your entire life?

[wheat jay]

no

im looking for new one, okay?

[fickle forge]

Slavetji

[wheat jay]

now go away

leave me alone

and my cotton too

[fickle forge]

: )

[mild thunder]

Artji? Isn’t that the demon hunter main?

[wheat jay]

ill let you know

i have yet to play dh

cuz 0 timex

xD

[teal hedge]

Wait why is artji playing dh

[wheat jay]

Cuz I want Kargish to be the one thinking for once

Instead of doing just zug zug

[teal hedge]

Sounds like you two need counselling

[wheat jay]

No

We need kargish to let me play dh

And to be useful for once

Intervene doesnt count

[mild thunder]

and rally smh

dont sell him short

and banner

(karg probably the warrior that never takes banner)

[wheat jay]

True

[teal hedge]

And how does that make you feel?

[wheat jay]

On one hand, good

On the other hand, tired

@fickle forge get yo ass back here

We are mid session here

[fickle forge]

I bring banner every game basically

[fickle forge]

Stfu

[dreamy moat]

damn kargish reminding everyone arms is back

[fickle forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/332244414241964042/1142970494979678330/doommains.mp4

[dreamy moat]

maybe it's a straight up skill issue that i'm hardstuck 1800 in shuffles now

nah it is

but fuck frost mage

[mild thunder]

not like there's any good alternatives

[fickle forge]

I'm also the only warr on the planet that picks Duel

😎👍

[mild thunder]

duel is so criminally under-used man

[fickle forge]

50% wall for my team? Don't mind if I do

[mild thunder]

it's basically just sac but a bit worse

[fickle forge]

I'm rotating SoD, banner, disarm, duel and DS atm

Oh yeah and shatter talent for locks

[mild thunder]

yea i pretty much always had sharpen + banner and rotated disarm, duel and demolition for my 3rd last season

[fickle forge]

Right now blademaster with SoD has some unreal cleave pressure

[mild thunder]

it's actually obnoxious the uptime warrior can get on bladestorm

[fickle forge]

Hero cleaves etc. that are perma stacked can't outheal it

[mild thunder]

bladestorm has like a 40s CD with SoD

[spice hornet]

all i q into is some destro comp, cupid, or rmp

thats it

i dont ever see other warrs

[mild thunder]

other warriors?

you play warrior?

[sage raptor]

youre all wrong

[teal hedge]

Hey guys angus here

[west mural]

i wonder why

[mild thunder]

It’s obvious lol

Everything but arms is S tier while we’re F tier

And if I lose a game it’s because WoW is unbalanced and bad, not that I need to get better

[delicate parrot]

I mean we’re all gamers

the game being unbalanced is the only reasonable conclusion

[sharp meteor]

I saw one warr a few days ago playing turbo.

[spice hornet]

Blades edge needs to be removed

my healer got knocked by mage

off map into an instant DC

[mild thunder]

lmao just say you're mad cause you got outplayed, bozo

[spice hornet]

RIP BOZO

[sharp meteor]

Yep, db into blast wave almost always kicks people through the map.

[mild thunder]

we've won games by typhoon > trapping people off blades edge

ive also won like a dozen 2s games from healers accidentally walking into traps i missed earlier in the game

feels so undeserved

[wheat jay]

Look at it this way

They walked into it

They don't deserve to win more than you don't

[fallen estuary]

prot bros

were rising

[river walrus]

Protection is good?

Arms warrior feels better, at least damage is there

[fallen estuary]

protection is extremely difficult to play and book wins with

1 mistake and someone on your team dies nearly instantly

[mild thunder]

no

arms and fury are both solidly A tier specs, just play one of them if you want something viable

[fickle forge]

It does okay damage and never dies to melee, but flops to magic

[short cedar]

I just went into a Soloshuffle against Frost mage, Fire mage, Boomie, Resto Sham

I have never felt so stuck in my life

[fallen estuary]

It does die in melee too, you just gotta be keen on hard swaps. You do take massive damage and a unexpected hardswap can kill you in a heartbeat. Usually in melee lobbies i keep shield block up 100% just incase they do swap to me. And the first 2 matches i keep double wall but by the 3rd to last if not i swap to bloodborne

Revenge is kinda doo doo to spam it for a rage dump so i spam IP for procs and as a defensive

Just remember shattering throw can be used against arms warriors as well btw

@sharp meteor disrupting shouts so fucking op

Charge kick, into a stun into a 6 sec silence 100% books me a win

I just gotta watch for my dumbass teammate not giving precog

[fickle forge]

No shot bro, prot is literally impervious to phys dmg

[fickle forge]

Huh?

[fallen estuary]

In lower lobbies yea but 2ks+ they 100% know you take extra damage and use it as huge pressure

Healers put in 2x the effort just to heal a tank btw

[fickle forge]

Skill issue fam

[fallen estuary]

Yea ignore pains a absorb. You can make shatter or wrecking do like 100k against a warrior with ignore pain up

[fickle forge]

You should never die to phys dmg

Magic you flop to, but phys you have like 10 different walls

[fallen estuary]

I mean believe what you want untill you play it yourself

[fickle forge]

I have

🤷‍♂️

[fallen estuary]

Cool then

[lean burrow]

doesn't it stop damaging beyond absorb?

[mild thunder]

booted up wrath because i need a break from retail, and sadly reminded that arms is a billion times more fun in wrath than it is on live servers

"hurr durr, ability no light up, me no know what to press"

[atomic orchid]

I play with all action bars hidden so no light ups for me

[fickle forge]

Honestly I am enjoying retail arms a bunch rn

[mild thunder]

i havent touched it since i got my 1800

what do you enjoy about it out of curiosity?

[fickle forge]

Damage feels chunky and burst is good

Feels like people have to run from me again

[wheat jay]

You just stink

🧀

[fickle forge]

My no CDs MS and Exe be critting for 100k on leather

[mild thunder]

nah i defs agree with all that... it's a strong spec atm and it's got some great upsides

i just dont find the rotation fun enough to be worth playing over other classes rn

[fickle forge]

Yah that's fair

MS into MS into MS is kinda ass design

[mild thunder]

getting 7 ms resets in a row is just... weird

lol

[teal hedge]

I love pressing ms

[wheat jay]

But have you tried getting 10 ms in a row?

[teal hedge]

It is the class icon

[wheat jay]

For real I think my best was like 6 last season

[mild thunder]

i think 8 is my record in arena

[wheat jay]

In pve I had like 10

[fickle forge]

I have incorporated the MS -> 3 GCD -> MS pattern in my brain for the longest time, but MS resets fuck that

[mild thunder]

i distinctly remember because i usually do the mortal strike before unhinged bladestorm to maximise my ms uptime, and i just kept resetting my mortal strike and never got to bladestorm

[wheat jay]

Kargish learnt one rotation years ago

And that's all he knows

Can't do anything else

[mild thunder]

cant teach a boomer new tricks

[wheat jay]

"what do you mean I can ms twice?"

[teal hedge]

I'

I think I peaked at around 4 ms's in a row

[wheat jay]

Its the same as mortal combo Kargish, you just press it manually

[teal hedge]

Which makes me basically kind of a big deal

[fickle forge]

Mortal Combo kekw

What a meme conduit

[mild thunder]

mortal combo >>>>> exhilarating blows

it was just funnier to watch

[wheat jay]

Mortal combo, nice I got 6 mortals in 3 casts

[fickle forge]

Took a lock from 80% to 0% with a conq banner MC hit

[wheat jay]

CS, you mean that shit I have 45s left on the guy cuz of procs?

[fickle forge]

EB was meme

[mild thunder]

cs uptime was so broken with EB

[wheat jay]

It was

[fickle forge]

When you got EB proc on MS and MC

[wheat jay]

Where my wild spirits?

Or flayed shot

[mild thunder]

burst? what do you mean, im always bursting

[wheat jay]

Those were so fun man

Wild spirits 10/10 visuals

[mild thunder]

10/10 visuals, 0/10 gameplay

[fickle forge]

Artji omega complained about Flayed in SL

[wheat jay]

I mean in pve it was nice

[mild thunder]

hurr durr, press aoe and passive cleave

[wheat jay]

In pvp not rly

[wheat jay]

I did

And its so ironic that I want it back xD

[mild thunder]

im very glad wild spirits and kyrian arrow didnt come through to DF

both were boring af

[fickle forge]

Conq Banner when doe

I miss my babe

[wheat jay]

I just prefer it over half brain burst of explosive and chakrams

[mild thunder]

aftershock when

[wheat jay]

Our child

[mild thunder]

aftershock bajheera stans rise up

🫡

[wheat jay]

🫡

[fickle forge]

Aftershock was ass cause it was associated with the fairy bullshit

[wheat jay]

But you are the fairy

Fairygish

[fickle forge]

Night fae was WoW's biggest mistake next to vulpeera

[mild thunder]

night fae also gave you soulshape tho

[wheat jay]

Drusts tho

[mild thunder]

easily the most fun cov ability

[wheat jay]

Soulshape i didnt like

[fickle forge]

Drusts lowkey more interesting

[wheat jay]

Door of shadows cc was sooooo good tho

[mild thunder]

the only downside to soulshape was the GCD afterward felt like it lasted a whole season

[fickle forge]

We kept Q'ing into some arms guy doing Unhinged+AA meme oneshot

On like 2.5k-2.6k mmr

[mild thunder]

a true chad

[fickle forge]

What was his name again? @wheat jay

[wheat jay]

No idea

I once told vinav before the game

To use walls

He was like, why

"he's gonna oneshot you"

And so he did, through bark and all hots xD

[fickle forge]

Bear form diff

[teal hedge]

What

[wheat jay]

He thought he can just swiftmend and live through xD

But that arms guy was so fun xX

[fickle forge]

His name was Grim or smth

[wheat jay]

Ggrimm?

[fickle forge]

Eyo that's the one

[wheat jay]

Yeeee xD

[fickle forge]

Ggrim and Ggrimjr

[mild thunder]

what comp do you play on warr atm kargish?

[fallen estuary]

Nope itll hit you for the remaining amount after breaking the absorb

I hit a warlock for like 50k after breaking a remaining 40k shield with prot modifiers w demo

I usually run it against warlock stacks tho since their absorbs are so fucking annoying

Beat their absorbs down to like 25% and line my burst then shatter

[wheat jay]

I believe its called "whatever his healer feels like playing"

[mild thunder]

sounds chad

im gonna move to EU to take your place as karg's sv partner

[wheat jay]

Please do

I'll go to NA and play with Muddie

[teal hedge]

You both stick eu and we make a 3s team

[mild thunder]

have fun playing 2 games a season

[wheat jay]

We already have a healer tho

Man's an actual top tier too

And he outlifts Kargish too iirc

[teal hedge]

I yeah been really struggling with lifting as of recently

Had to drop it down to 2 seshes a week

[fickle forge]

I haven't Q'd 3s in forever because @wheat jay is hardstuck at work

In 2s we Q whatever our healer feels like on that day

Like my ex on her period

[fickle forge]

By 2.5 kg smh

[fallen estuary]

prot bros

we go UGH

@sharp meteor place your bets i get a grief lobby

[sharp meteor]

Gl on your conflip.

[fallen estuary]

thanks im going to rip my monitor in half

[sharp meteor]

Idk if I queue my prots until next tuning.

[fallen estuary]

idk im kinda more relaxed in caster lobbies ngl

after learning to properly use disrupting shout i think im good to go

just gotta get my fucking teammates to use their defensives like fr ong

[fickle forge]

1.5 min cd for a kick

Eh

[fallen estuary]

its 1.5 but you gotta chain it on a healer

thats what makes it super fuckn powerful

Charge kick 3s - Stun 3 sec - into Shout 6 sec

12 second shutdown

[fickle forge]

I mean prot does a lot of dmg rn and makes teams never die to melees, but you have like no agency over winning a game

Isn't the highest prot guy like 2.3k?

[fallen estuary]

ye

@sharp meteor takes up like 3 damn spots

[sharp meteor]

Just two. 😢

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, really needs good lobbies.

[fickle forge]

Just one of those specs

But then again, tanks should be underdogs

Nobody likes them

I have achieved godhood sheesh

@mild thunder You seeing this shit?

[sharp meteor]

Mhm. They don't outright disable them, but their numbers are so low that they're pretty terrible.

Tanks in their current spot are probably fine.

[fallen estuary]

YO HAHAHHAHA

OMGMGGGG

BRO I DCED MID MATCH AND LSOT 3 ROUNDS LOL

and the pala healer just afked

for 3 matches after i won the 4th

and i 3-3ed a BAD lobby LOL

still got dat reward tho

[fallen estuary]

shield slam could use its dispell back

[sharp meteor]

I'd like for them to neerf tank sustain across the board and remove the dmg taken thing.

Ret doing 120k dps to me ain't fun.

[fickle forge]

No chance

Giga busted

[fallen estuary]

i mean itll give it to fury n arms along with it

🤷

[fickle forge]

Implying any dps warr will swap to sword and board

[fallen estuary]

supposidly raise the already low floor to enter

for a juicy bubble dispell

ye

make those snb macros work again

[fickle forge]

You wouldn't be able to dispel BoP anyway cause of phys immunity

[fallen estuary]

well they can always change how it dispells

make it able to dispell bops n sheit

[fickle forge]

They could also just not give warr purge when it already has big utility

[fallen estuary]

ok ok listen

you can have that extra charge

for that dispell

[teal hedge]

Kargish how much did you brnch now again?

[fallen estuary]

deal?

[fickle forge]

132.5 kg

[teal hedge]

Jesus, that's one rep?

[fickle forge]

😎👍

[teal hedge]

My 4 rep max is 70 :P

[fickle forge]

I'm 2.5kg stronger than Magnusz

[teal hedge]

Jeez

Yeah I increase weight every 3 weeks

And I increase reps every week

[fickle forge]

No, stop giving warr purge

[teal hedge]

So we trying 65 x 8 today

[fickle forge]

Shatter is enough for immunities

[fickle forge]

Go for it bro

[fallen estuary]

maan shatters not enuff

[teal hedge]

Yessir

[fickle forge]

1pl8-80kg is fine in the beginning

[fallen estuary]

we need that shiny new shield slam

spam

[teal hedge]

Had to bail 65 x 7 last wrek though

Oy vey

[fickle forge]

No we don't lmao

Warr lowkey a good melee rn

[fallen estuary]

shield slams way less used than slam tbh it could use it

[fickle forge]

No it couldn't

[fallen estuary]

dawg arms is good rn

furys on its last bottle of jack

[fickle forge]

Tanks should stay underdog

[fallen estuary]

veng and bm should ye

prot warriors will rise up tho

[teal hedge]

Hit 65 kg x 8 no problems at all

[green anchor]

the 4piece damage is pretty bad in pvp huh?

[fallen estuary]

for arms ye

[green anchor]

for Arms

[fickle forge]

Prot warr is okay when it had offense, but Blizz nuked that

[fallen estuary]

arms got fucked royally this season for their teir lmao

[fickle forge]

Now it's another damp tank

[teal hedge]

Rahhh I HATE TANKS

[green anchor]

I did some M+ for the heroic chest and it's pretty meh in pve as well lol

[fickle forge]

I personally stay in the 1-8 rep range for compound lifts

[teal hedge]

Makes playing arms nearly impossiblr

Yeah

[fickle forge]

If you wanna get strength, then get on a program

[fallen estuary]

your melees FEED my shield slam procs

[teal hedge]

We on a programme

[fickle forge]

5-3-1 is good for fast strength

[teal hedge]

Jeff Nippards

We on week 9

[fickle forge]

Ye, is good

[teal hedge]

Had to be inconsistant these last weeks

No deadlifts ;(

Shit sucks, but what can you do

[fickle forge]

If you do your squats and lunges, then your DL isn't a train wreck at least

[teal hedge]

I do lunges, but I struggle with them