pvp

[unique fox]

I cant see it being good ever

If you had to pick one of the two unhinged would still be a decent chunk of dam unless there's pets or bullshit around

[violet fossil]

You can’t cancel bladestorm taking a talent?

[glass orchid]

you proabbly dont want to cancel bladestorm for the most part with hurricane anyway

its your biggest damage button

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, hurricane prevents you from cancelling it.

[unique fox]

Imagine having to watch some dickhead priest spam cast flash heals and you can't cancelaura and kick him

[sharp meteor]

But it does damage now so w/e.

[teal hedge]

Puncher gets it

[violet fossil]

Wtf lol

I didn’t know that

[scarlet flame]

its the same or less damage than rend or deep wounds

[glass orchid]

imagine thinking i can kick them withtout getting juked

[violet fossil]

guess would only be good into double melee then?

[teal hedge]

Is that Mick Thomson as your pfp?

[violet fossil]

who’s mick Thomson

Wait

[teal hedge]

Guitarist in slipknot

[violet fossil]

Why’d I ask that

Omfg

I’m so bad

Jesus

[glass orchid]

i swear ive had more 'kicks' by not binding pummel than i actually would by kicking

[violet fossil]

That sounded so familiar and I forgot

[glass orchid]

some people jsut fake cast until you kick

but dont realise you dont haev it bound

[teal hedge]

Yeah, kicking can be annoying

[teal hedge]

Well, who is it?

[scarlet flame]

at most the healer is getting 1 or 2 casts of flash heal off in that situation and your kick for a 3 sec interupt isn't gunna do shit compared to the damage you can deal after hurricane is over, and thats saying your second and healer can't kick themselves

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, missing kick not only gives precog but means they know you can't kick for 15 seconds so if you literally just sit on it all game it'll freak them out and have them juke like 30 times

[unique fox]

I long for the day rend is no longer mandatory

[violet fossil]

but no it’s from wrestling heh

[glass orchid]

just play tclap

[violet fossil]

Kane

[glass orchid]

i dont even have rend bound

[violet fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/kane-entrance-wwe-raw-wrestling-gif-16423250

[glass orchid]

tclap on CD to reset overpower

[violet fossil]

@teal hedge

[teal hedge]

I should've known that guy, I've played wwe games

[violet fossil]

my favorite wrestler ever

wish I had his physique

[teal hedge]

He has an impressive physique

I don't really know who has my favourite physiques

Hafthor Björnsson and Mark Felix are contestors, though.

[violet fossil]

who’s the Russian guy from creed?

Draco’s sim

Son*

[teal hedge]

What's creed

[violet fossil]

Movie

Basically rocky sequel

Florian Munteanu

was the actor

[teal hedge]

These are my favourite physiques

Don't think they're very attainable, though.

[violet fossil]

drago*

yeah that’s all genetics man

and juice but you need the genetics too

[teal hedge]

Yeah

I got good chest and trap genetics, from what I can tell

[teal hedge]

Otherwise I have absolutely zero muscle definition, but it's hard to tell

[violet fossil]

Dude was huge

[teal hedge]

Yeah, that's impressive

HE'S 213 CM?

He could be a pro strongman

I'm just about as tall as Mark Henry, if we're talking wrestlers

[violet fossil]

yeah he’s a tall guy

He probably could’ve been

[teal hedge]

I mean, Mark Henry was one of the strongest men of all time.

[copper hare]

for what, make less money?

[teal hedge]

It's like any sport, driven by being a competetive person

[spice hornet]

WW rdruid lost to me as fury hpal in 2s, whispered me after shaking we only won because fury counters WW

Saying*

[sharp meteor]

Playing Fury in 2s

[hexed ether]

all the dhs are coming out the woodwork.

[fickle berry]

Onslaught changes baybeeeee

[spice hornet]

I q one game as arms, I do 2M damage in a couple of minutes, the enemy ret does 4.5m

[hexed ether]

tomorrow its going to be week one of season one all over again

[spice hornet]

I go fury next game, I do 4m damage in 1ish minute

Arms is genuinely unplayable right now, especially in 2s

[candid citrus]

lmao nice post about fury. keep killin them with the great big two handers that ONLY fury warriors can weild

[hexed ether]

only 2100 in 2s and it feels impossibly sweaty

[spice hornet]

I don’t like fury, self judt does 0 damage

Arms *

[spice hornet]

Lmao that whisper

[candid citrus]

i read that as arcanemage and was thinking how the hell did we let a mgae in here?

[spice hornet]

Need to collect all the whispers you get from playing prot into one big image

[hexed ether]

i love working hard and setting up all my damage and hit them with a fatty MS and i see their health go up

[spice hornet]

Stunandbung told me he was gonna do that

[candid citrus]

i fought a monk earlier in wpvp. and even the monk farmers are OP out there.

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, I've been doing that this season.

Surprisingly few toxic whispers but a lot of curious/positive ones.

[mild thunder]

Fury counters ww? Makes sense since we can parry all their dmg, disarm their major defensive, kite all their burst… wait a minute…

[spice hornet]

Was the most fried thing I ever heard

He was dead serious too

[spice hornet]

I think that guy lives in the same world as the dude who was claiming that warrior beats WW in duels

[mild thunder]

It used to be a great matchup for arms when we could bolt FoF more reliably

As a ww I feel like I do no damage to warriors tbh, but it’s still an easy enough matchup

[lyric violet]

yo more changes?

[thick reef]

Fury gettin buffed, Arms burst nerfed but overall dam probs increased will see tho

[dreamy moat]

We'll probably end up seeing 20%haste>mast>vers stat priority again if burst dmg nerfed

[thick reef]

keeen to see how hard onslaught hits now with the buff

was loving it pre buff

[candid citrus]

i just read fury counters monk and got a good laugh...

[mild thunder]

arms burst is defs not nerfed anymore

overall

ms is getting a massive buff, execute is getting enough of a buff to do roughly the same damage duringa ava+cs go's, only thing that didnt get buffed is overpower

on top of that, arms will do a lot more damage outside of CDs, which is what matters

[thick reef]

how you reckon its gonna fair up with el fury

[mild thunder]

both will probably be pretty strong tbh, but arms always has the leg-up in terms of utility

[thick reef]

ahh fkn oath im keen

[mild thunder]

i like the fatality nerf too, because it allows them to do what everyone wants and buff execute

cant really have exe doing >150k dmg on its own when you're getting a 200k fatality proc on top of it

[sharp meteor]

Yerrr.

[mild thunder]

trying to find the screenshots of my s1 fatality procs

iirc the highest i hit was like 350k total exe + fatality

in a 3s game that turned into a long-ass 2v2

[spice hornet]

Arms needs dat

@sharp meteor show me more rage whispers

Of prot

[sharp meteor]

Haven't actually gotten many of prot, I think, they've been mostly for blood and a few for brew

although brew makes sense because I can hit people for like 100-200k 3 globals in a row

[spice hornet]

Hhahaha

Lmao

[ruby temple]

when is there gonna be a prot spec added to the pins >:[

[mild thunder]

when @sharp meteor puts gala back in his name

[boreal veldt]

One of my guildies plays brew in pvp lmfaoooo, one of my favorite people

[sharp meteor]

It's actually so funny.

Just a drunk guy knocking people around.

[boreal veldt]

[candid citrus]

no monks are just OP right now

that monks a douche, happens alot when a class gets OP buffs

when they get nerfed? they put that toon on the shelf and swap to whatever is Op at the moment.

[thick reef]

insecure u probs hit em hard a couple times and u hurt his ego he wanted to duel ahhahahh

[modest marten]

anyone know why we double sophic devotion on fury

i spent some time testing and having one sophic devotion is around the same uptime

[spice hornet]

you don't

[modest marten]

enchants proc off whirlwind too. whirlwind into minions insane proc uptime lol

[spice hornet]

WW kit counters warrior almost entirely, FoF being a 4 sec CD due them running serenity and not clones with turbo fists means you just aren't going to win

[torpid lintel]

Go prot

[modest marten]

anyone tried earthen devotion fury vs melee? 20% armor bonus turns the proc into around 3k+ armor then 10% armor converted to strength turns the proc to around 3k+ armor and 300+ strength. then that strength scales with 20% pvp trinket bonus and any racial bonuses so it’s kind of like a hybrid physicsl dmg reduction + primary stat proc on fury

rn i’m running sophic / earthen writ. two sophic has pretty much the same uptime as one sophic and the earthen writ proc is legit a +15% dmg increase, brings me to 70% mastery

i don’t understand why two sophic is meta unless it stacks

playing double enchant i get 20% uptime on both which is like 200k dps burst with 5 death wish

in arena

[torpid lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-confused-math-gif-26401692

[modest marten]

fury is so fun for meme builds rn lol

against melee u can run ravager meat cleaver death wish one shots

double enchants proc off whirlwind and the cleave on the minions infinite self healing with 7 leech

it’s kind of hard not to rage overflow onslaught and ravager tho

even with 130cap

u waste a lot

[fallen estuary]

holy shit people are dumb as hell

get 2 lobbies with mix of melee and casters

and its like when im on their side casters forget they have fucking cc holy shit

[charred onyx]

im running aff lock, fury warrior 2v2s to gear up my friend and had this feral/disc team tbag us because apparently its scummy to play aff lock and fury in 2s together?

[dreamy moat]

Deep Wounds damage is no longer reduced in PvP combat (was 28% reduced).

lol
bleed spec

[opal acorn]

Mortal Strike damage increased by 35% in PvP (was 10%).

Bladestorm damage increased by 70% in PvP combat (was 40%). lmao

they really want us to bs for dmg

[candid citrus]

where are u finding the updates?

[opal acorn]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/additional-class-tuning-changes-coming-tomorrow-334642

[candid citrus]

ty

nothing for fury? wth blizz

[opal acorn]

its the additional tuning

they already buffing fury

Fury
Onslaught damage is increased by 35% in PvP (was 15%).
Execute (Fury) damage is increased by 40% in PvP (was 25%).

[candid citrus]

fury..... must .....have ..... MORE!

[opal acorn]

lmao reddit is full of hate posts about warriors xD

[short cedar]

Hello fellow PvP warriors, how do you do? I'm proper delving into PvP for the first time in a long while and am a bit confused regarding a few things hoping you can help.

Spotted this other fellow warrior having tier pieces with pvp bonus, I assume they've catalysed the Glad-items. But do you gain the Set bonus in PvP combat as well?

[mild thunder]

@wheat jay kfc after reset?

[mild thunder]

yes

4pc isnt really worth for arms tho, it's pretty mediocre

and they're all nerfed by ~50%

[robust hearth]

U mean like how bladestorm used to be pre MoP?

[short cedar]

Thank you!

[wheat jay]

Maybe

Id rather play dh

But i still havent geared it

And tbh that buff is so big arms gonna be s tier again and I'll have to spend every second of every game kiting arms warriors

Just thinking about it makes me want to uninstall the game

[charred onyx]

bladestorm did damage in MoP

[mild thunder]

bro is so lameeeee

[mild thunder]

real

literally arms B tier for half a season and gets buffed back into S tier

[charred onyx]

affliction keeps getting these huge damage buffs, eventually they will reach the point that your whole team is just dead for no reason lol

[mild thunder]

idk why people have such victim complexes in this disc

[wheat jay]

Detached from reality and just want to be s tier

When warrior is s tier noone is having fun

That's reality

[mild thunder]

giga true

idk, im enjoying sv so much i dont really care about the warr buffs

i'll get it to 1800 eventually, that's all i can be bothered to

[wheat jay]

Fair enough

[dreamy moat]

wait so these changes actually good?

[mild thunder]

extremely big buffs

[wheat jay]

Busted actually

[dreamy moat]

fuck yeah

[magic wing]

How

[opal acorn]

?

huge ms buff

exec buff

bs buff

[mild thunder]

deep wounds buff

[magic wing]

Cds get nerfed tho

[mild thunder]

not more than the dmg gets buffed

and who cares, you kill outside of CDs in this meta anyway

[magic wing]

Fury gets a flat buff

[mild thunder]

fury avatar is getting nerfed too

and if fury/arms dmg is roughly equal, arms will always have the edge because of its toolkit

more durable, more cc avoidance, better team utility

[opal acorn]

furys buff is way smaller than arms imo

[mild thunder]

better ms

[magic wing]

So what youre saying is war will be playable again

[mild thunder]

it already is playable lol

[thick reef]

warr is fine

could be better sure

defs not dog shit

[opal acorn]

it will be better now

[mild thunder]

legit S tier

[magic wing]

I will believe it when I see it

[thick reef]

ill nut in my jocks if its s tier

[mild thunder]

we shat back in their mouths and i teabagged the fuck outta that priest

[magic wing]

Warrior pvp channel full of ppl not playing warrior

[twin mural]

if u dont have 3 70 warriors are u even a real warrior

[mild thunder]

i only have 2

[twin mural]

[modest marten]

Fury is just overtuned as hell to compensate for its lack of util

1500 versatility for 6% damage increase. Yeah or 1500 mastery for 15% damage increase

they keep making it stronger because nobody plays pvp at blizz. they look at stats and assume it needs more dmg when the problem is, trading cool-down for cool-down to catch a mage or a hunter u are always going to lose

[magic wing]

They dont play the game period

[modest marten]

fury with ret or unholy dk is busted

[magic wing]

Look at D4

[modest marten]

all they are doing is making certain talents like onslaught mandatory

[mild thunder]

fury shouldnt get arms utility

it's a berserker

not a utility machine

[modest marten]

i agree

[dreamy moat]

should clarify that when I sent the message, the new changes are good for arms?

[modest marten]

it just needs more movespeed or slow resist or something

buffing the dmg just makes it busted against melee

and still equally useless against mage

[dreamy moat]

yeah changes or not, frost mage always gonna give me conniptions

oh fucking speaking of

of course i get one in solos

[modest marten]

yeah i don’t go 3s without a ret or an unholy with me

on my warr

in solos i just line mages until they blink to dmg me

if they have everything up u just lose

[quaint ruin]

is arms "playable" with 18% haste

[mild thunder]

no

as soon as you load in you get dc/d

it's literally not possible to enter a lobby with 18% haste

[sage raptor]

It's a miracle you can even queue tbh

[vapid tartan]

Q time bois

[tribal wedge]

New buff : queue's cooldown now reduce by haste ( capped at 30 %)

[devout wagon]

Why those ups ARMS IS DESTROYING ATM

[fickle berry]

What's the actual counterplay vs mages? I struggle against locks too. Hunters not AS much but sometimes.

P.s im new to pvp

[sage raptor]

Because it's not destroying enough ig

[fickle berry]

In 2s though.
In 3s ig it's different

[fickle berry]

Cuz freedom/amz?

[tribal wedge]

Vs warlock you have to wait their "freedom" after teleport to charge thème/slow. And pump their face

[vapid tartan]

You tend to want a partner that provides some extra control like shaman or dk against mages

In 3s

[tribal wedge]

Vs mage you have to suffer

[dreamy moat]

as far as I've learned, fire mage is just cc during combust and ignore

frost mage, i guess during icyveins?

[forest sinew]

arms = pump & dump now?

[magic wing]

Always has been

[forest sinew]

[dense herald]

Arms trash rn

Itll be trash on reset

Fury is the way

Zug zug go healer

[opal acorn]

Did u see the buffs?

[torpid lintel]

Yea but they nerfed avatar colosul big

The problem with arms is it has 0 pressure

[opal acorn]

avatar not that big cs is. But u will be doing way more dmg outside of cs while doing about the same inside

[torpid lintel]

And still they will have 0 pressure

[opal acorn]

they buffed exec and ms a lot

also bs

[torpid lintel]

Yea but nerfed colosul and avatar big

I don’t think it will be better then fury

[opal acorn]

avatar not that big cs is. But u will be doing way more dmg outside of cs while doing about the same inside

[torpid lintel]

Cause as arms u got 0 pressure

Let’s see tmrw

[devout wagon]

dude, they nerf avatar but buff everything else

[torpid lintel]

I hope it’s good

[devout wagon]

execute, Mortal strike, bladestorm

[torpid lintel]

Avatar cs big nerfs

[opal acorn]

avatar not that big cs is. But u will be doing way more dmg outside of cs while doing about the same inside

[teal hedge]

^

[teal hedge]

Whaaaat

[tribal wedge]

hmm, the burst won't be really impacted with the MS/exec/BS buff, and outside burst timing, our pressure will be omega up

[teal hedge]

Arms has always had good uptime and some pressure

[tribal wedge]

our damage will probably be on the moon tomorow

[teal hedge]

^

[torpid lintel]

Idk let’s see tmrw but as for now it’s shit

[teal hedge]

That's what I'm saying

It's overtuned

[teal hedge]

It's like B tier, it's not shit :P

It's still very good

If you can't play it, then I'm sorry, but I have some rough news.

[opal acorn]

oof

[torpid lintel]

They shouldn’t of nerfed our kill windows

[teal hedge]

They havenät

[torpid lintel]

They should’ve just buffed us without nerfs like locks

[teal hedge]

The overall kit-improvement will offset the avatar nerf

[opal acorn]

ye why not make us os everyone

[teal hedge]

And csmash nerf

[opal acorn]

fkn blizzar

[teal hedge]

Arms will be in a really sweet spot

[sage raptor]

What do you MEAN I can't auto win????? Arms trashhhhhh!!!!

[teal hedge]

SKS might even feel good to run with the improved mortal wounds

[opal acorn]

ah true they buffed mw too

[tribal wedge]

not really sure about that

[torpid lintel]

Ms better hit for 200k tmrw

Mages can hit 300k glacical but we can’t?

[teal hedge]

I mean, if you enjoy fury, play fury, don't switch specs just to follow the meta

At that point you can just go mage or druid

[torpid lintel]

I main war

[teal hedge]

Compare our utilities.

[sage raptor]

Mage still better imo

[tribal wedge]

unless you are planing to be R1, play what you have fun with

[torpid lintel]

Full cds and ms hitting for 100k is trash

[teal hedge]

And even so, you can hit r1 with arms no problems

[torpid lintel]

Vs plate it’s hitting like 70k 80k it’s trash

[teal hedge]

It's not a bad spec because some casters are overtuned.

[torpid lintel]

They should remove op modifier and bake it into ms

[teal hedge]

We already have a 1-button spec

[opal acorn]

ye just use one button for 400k np

[teal hedge]

(Fury)

[torpid lintel]

All these shit modifiers that is nerfed by like 90%

[dense herald]

Yes

[opal acorn]

fury is 1 button?

[dense herald]

2 button

Dont disrespect fury like that

[teal hedge]

I wouldn't know I don't play it

[dense herald]

Its actually 4

Bloodbath rampage onslaught and execute

[opal acorn]

who plays anni anyway

[teal hedge]

Who plays fury

[lethal sandal]

hello folks, quick question. i am at 126% movementspeed when enraged. now lets say a warrior uses Hamstring on me which reduces movementspeed at 50%. do i come out at 76% or 63% movementspeed?

[mild thunder]

who plays warrior

[opal acorn]

so why do u care

[teal hedge]

I tried looking up if it's multiplicative or additive, but I couldn't find anything

[violet fossil]

It says -50%

[lethal sandal]

so that would mean 76%

[violet fossil]

ok so it is reduced by the %

So yeah 76%

[fickle berry]

is there a reason why ppl dont run primalist gem in pvp?

[mild thunder]

wtf is primalist gem

you mean the illimited diamond? they do

[violet fossil]

the main stat gem?

[fickle berry]

ye

[violet fossil]

they do

like he said

[fickle berry]

oh shit mb im goofy its cuz u can only have ONE

so on murlok it shows "30"

[mild thunder]

ye

[fickle berry]

which implies 30/50 have it

LOL

[violet fossil]

yeah

[fickle berry]

vs like 133 of other ones

i be goofin up

ait bet imma equip that shit

[violet fossil]

gooofy ahhhhh

[mild thunder]

gooofy ahhh

permabulk? more like permatard

[fickle berry]

https://tenor.com/view/hate-gif-5122346

[violet fossil]

Don’t forget your leg enchants

[fickle berry]

hit 1800 after a couple of days of starting pvp
now im stuck sadge
casters fuck me up

yy im full enchanted

no sockets yet or full 450 yet sadge

[violet fossil]

sockets feel so shitty to get mid season

should change how you get them after a certain time

[fickle berry]

onslaught changes imply we're gonna switch to RA/onslaught/raging blow build no?

[mild thunder]

raging blow build already better imo

id rather be 0cr than get this shit

[fickle berry]

ive been trying annihilator

i fuck with the huge burst when u pop everything and slam+annihilator

keep in mind im very new to pvp

[vapid tartan]

Isn’t slam getting nerfed on 10.1.7 ptr

[fickle berry]

i also fuck with running raging blows and feeling like its pve to hit 100% bloodbath crit

[mild thunder]

nope

[magic wing]

Youve completed the game

[fickle berry]

i wanna try higher

[sharp meteor]

That's how it be.

[mild thunder]

dw, you'll be S tier on reset

[fallen estuary]

Omg kennue you cursed .e

Me

2 caster lobbies and it was brutal

[teal hedge]

Just kill them

They literally wear dresses

[fickle berry]

true

mb

gym soon tho gonna be nice

[fickle berry]

im fury no s tier for me

more dmg is irrelevant when casters just root me D:

[teal hedge]

You love to see it

Gonna hit upper body today

Only struggle I have is my shoulder blades popping whenever i OHP

But it should be fine

[undone pumice]

block 2 of my program starts today

finna fuck up these ohps

[teal hedge]

You love to see it

Just started block 3 😎

[finite fox]

Yal excited for today

[teal hedge]

I'm EU, so buffs drop later 😭

[fickle berry]

Smith sissy killed me I can barely breathe after a set and a drop set 😭 @teal hedge

[teal hedge]

Looking huge

[fickle berry]

Not helping that today is giga hot

[teal hedge]

Yeah I go at night partly because of the heat

[fickle berry]

I just cba I wanna chill at home at eve

[teal hedge]

That's fair

I usually go around 11 pm and get back around 1 am

[fickle berry]

Smith sissies into Smith incline chest

Prayg for me

[teal hedge]

Incline is great

Get that chest homie

[undone pumice]

are those pokemon tattoos?

[fickle berry]

No, dragon ball

I do have Pokémon tho

[undone pumice]

got damn

[teal hedge]

Wait, bulk, are you nordic?

[undone pumice]

i cant imagine getting a tattoo of any videogame or show ngl

[fickle berry]

I gotta look fly

No but I live in Denmark why?

[teal hedge]

Just had a hunch

[fickle berry]

Lek

Kek

[teal hedge]

Thought we had the same timezones

[fickle berry]

It's 4pm here

[teal hedge]

Yessir, 4pm here in Sweden as well

[undone pumice]

it looks great dont get me wrong

[fickle berry]

It's my job dawg

Gotta look the part

[teal hedge]

Oh wait I've already asked you about hte danish stuff

Dementia gaming

Mimikyu, that's cute

[fickle berry]

Cutting edge 1.8k rating gym fury warrior tattooer bruh

[undone pumice]

damn

[fickle berry]

Gotta get the kalimdor cup so I can put racist in my title

[undone pumice]

tattoo artist seems like a cursed ass job

[fickle berry]

Its coin flip best job ever vs worst shit in the world

My stuff ranges from doing this

[undone pumice]

gotta tattoo musty people sometimes too yea

[fickle berry]

To doing this

[teal hedge]

Danish Ö 😭

[fickle berry]

Yalls ø is literally a scared guy wym

[undone pumice]

ö

[teal hedge]

I'm honestly jealous of the danish Ö

But it makes sense, as we use Ä and Å as well

[fickle berry]

Ait back to set

[undone pumice]

ø seems a bazillion times easier to write by hand

[teal hedge]

Nah

[undone pumice]

ö always looks a bit cursed

[teal hedge]

Ö is much easier

[fickle berry]

Bro i ain't gonna write a spooked guy every time tho

Ö is more strokes

1 o and 2 dots

Vs 1 o and 1 slash

More movements

[undone pumice]

exactly

[fickle berry]

Ait gonna try to do more weight

Wish me gl

[teal hedge]

Less go

How much weight we talking?

[undone pumice]

smith machine users go to lifting heaven or hell

[teal hedge]

I don't use smith machines, but I might

There's only 1 at the gym I go to

[undone pumice]

same

[fickle berry]

Smith is goated don't sleep on it

[undone pumice]

my gym just kinda has nothing in regards to normal stuff

[fickle berry]

I'm doing high incline bench

So like 60 degrees

[teal hedge]

Yeah, gym struggles a little with equipment

[fickle berry]

Gonna add another 10kg now

[undone pumice]

smith is like anything else depends on how u use it

[fickle berry]

I'm able to dumbbell chest like 26s/28s but can only Smith chest like 50kg 💀💀💀

[undone pumice]

if u use a bench press for bicep curls u not the smartest cookie

[teal hedge]

We have two cable racks, some machines, one leg press, one hack squat and like 6 squat racks.

[fickle berry]

I had a friend thst did bench 180kg for reps

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[undone pumice]

db and normal bench seems to be easier to use chest on

[fickle berry]

He leg pressed 10 plates

[undone pumice]

and smith is a lot more triceps frok my exp

[teal hedge]

My man

I too, incline 50 kg.

[fickle berry]

Same for squats bruh I used to hack squat 140 and leg press over 200 now after a month+ of losing consistency I leg press like maybe 140

My thigh tattoo was infected

[undone pumice]

leg press is so so

[fickle berry]

Can see all the shit healing

[teal hedge]

I prefer higher rep-ranges on leg press, actually

[fickle berry]

Nah gala our leg press let's u go full Rom ass to grass

It's insane

U shit bricks when ur done

[undone pumice]

i can easily do 300kg on one leg press at my gym and start to struggle on 200kg on the other

[teal hedge]

I did 90 kg x 3 x 20 yesterday

[fickle berry]

Yeah it truly depends on the angles

[undone pumice]

who tf even low rep maxes leg press tho

[teal hedge]

And I'm very sore for the first time in a while

[undone pumice]

i have never seen anyone do less than 10 reps on leg press me included

[teal hedge]

Quads, glutes, hamstrings, all exhausted

[fickle berry]

Ait next set

[teal hedge]

That and my abs, did some crunches and now they cramp as soon as I try to stand 😎

[fickle berry]

we 50kg incline

Super slow tempo

If I don't reply tell my 2s partner he should find a new warr

[undone pumice]

[fickle berry]

Pr incoming

I'm alive

[teal hedge]

Oh man

I usually listen to death grips whilst lifting

[undone pumice]

Joe rogan podcast

or vivaldi

vivaldi slaps

[teal hedge]

This guy gets it

Vivaldis summer

[fickle berry]

Bro i listen to so much shit

Sometimes it's meshuggah

Sometimes it's k pop

Sometimes it's good ol tevvez

[undone pumice]

actually this too

but recently its been mainly those 2

[fickle berry]

Sometimes it's ironic hard style we go Jim remixes

[violet fossil]

is it sometimes the gargoyles intro song

[fickle berry]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=dNVy8PyBV1Q&feature=share pr song unironic undoubtedly

You do this 500kg bench is lightweight

T bar taken
Single arm pull downs time

[undone pumice]

https://open.spotify.com/track/5A32buYzWvtkJizBkX8OCQ?si=531OKiIFQU2g5zsnUIhWJQ

you do this and inadvertantely speedrun your sets

[fickle berry]

My entire body is mid but my back is blessed

My back is my leanest/widest

[teal hedge]

I wish I was that lucky

I feel my pecs, traps and calves might be the best

My lats are tiny 😭

[teal hedge]

These can't be actual people

[sharp meteor]

Least deranged Mage.

[teal hedge]

They must be some kind of psyop

[lavish quest]

How do you lose to a warrior as a mage?

https://tenor.com/view/huh-meme-confused-gif-24780938

[green anchor]

mage

[severe skiff]

on dummy so low armor/no versa but MS seems to be hitting pretty hard

that's without exec precis stacks, 318k with one stack (everything else up, blood fury/sophic/insignia

[fallen estuary]

@sharp meteor might go orc for the prot grind

Blood fury is kinda good for burst windows

[fallen estuary]

Warlock discord in full force tonight

[fickle berry]

Going gnome vs good mages and I still get giga clapped

💀💀💀💀

[teal hedge]

I thought warlocks would be chill

[fickle berry]

https://tenor.com/view/really-bruh-blink-blank-face-gif-12917060

[fallen estuary]

They control everything

[fickle berry]

Warlocks are shit as well lmao

[fallen estuary]

Theyre in the government and commubity council

[fickle berry]

If ur a caster u literally cannot legally write in pvp forums

[fallen estuary]

Warlocks have abducted amatox

[lavish quest]

Yeah... I ain't going gnome lol

[hot solstice]

actualy funny:

[teal hedge]

Go worgen

[fickle berry]

Horrified into shadow fury into fear into demon stun into tyrant into fel gigalisk

[teal hedge]

Literally this easy

[sharp meteor]

Can play double damagur trinkets on human.

[fickle berry]

Fury gnome is hilarious tho wym

[sharp meteor]

My highest prot is panda. 🐼

[fickle berry]

My gnome is called noreach

🙏🙏🙏

[sharp meteor]

Kultiran is another option

[lavish quest]

I'm hooman warrior and sticking with it lol

[sharp meteor]

just yeet somebody off the bridge or something

[teal hedge]

Kultirans look cool

[fallen estuary]

O shit yea i could do that but that static str on trink is rlly good tho

[sharp meteor]

Yer, also some stuff you can't human out of, like coil.

[fallen estuary]

Bruh uea i could go fat man

I can make blades edge even worse for casters lmfao

[teal hedge]

I actually like media having these big brick-shithouse characters more often

Thor from god of war, Kul'tirans

[fickle berry]

True

[sharp meteor]

Yerrr.

[fickle berry]

Kul tirans Are Chad's

[sharp meteor]

Wish they had more customization options.

[fickle berry]

What does kul tiran offer tho

I'm just looking at murlok and every fury is orc gnome or human

[sharp meteor]

Knock is good, vers and heal is also fine

Talking prot here

For arms/fury it's always gonna be like human/gnome/orc or eitehr variant of dwarf

[dawn niche]

yo

[sharp meteor]

with an honorable mention to nelf if you're good about melding stuff

[fallen estuary]

Whats kts racials btw

[dawn niche]

Anyone know if Illimited diamonds are worth it in pvp or should we stick to regular gems?

[fickle berry]

Fair fair

Ppl use it

[sharp meteor]

You always want a primalist gem with str, yeah.

[fallen estuary]

Also wb draenai? Is tge heal from them any good?

[sharp meteor]

If we could we'd only use them but there's a limit of 1

[dawn niche]

is it that much better?

[fickle berry]

Any us based fury warriors to say how Doe onslaught feel?

[fickle berry]

It's a direct increase to everything u do so yh

[sharp meteor]

Fine. It's a heal that scales off your health but healing is all gutted in shuffle.

You also get passive str which is fine.

[teal hedge]

My shaman is a dranei

[dawn niche]

fair enough i just wasnt sure how much say 53 main stat is compared to 88 sub stat

[sharp meteor]

Honestly Pandaren is pretty sick.

[fickle berry]

53?

[fallen estuary]

Passive str wym

[sharp meteor]

It's 75 mainstat.

Plus the secondary.

[fickle berry]

R3 primal gem gives more than 50

Ur looking at r1

Yeah it's 75 str + 66 secondary

[dawn niche]

yeah im sure it does im just saying how much sub stat is better than that much main stat i guess?

[fickle berry]

Sim it

[sharp meteor]

Dunno. A bit/lot.

Just play it.

[dawn niche]

fair

[sharp meteor]

Psure even r2 better.

Costs like 500g to get one made.

[fickle berry]

75 str > 80 sub stay

So obviously 75 str + 60 substat > 80 substat

[fallen estuary]

So hows arms btw

Im at work bruhs

[teal hedge]

Storng

[honest sundial]

lmao

[frank knoll]

I may switch from Dark Iron dwarf to human

Racial is kinda poopy cause it shares cd with trinket

[teal hedge]

But you looks so cool!

[fickle berry]

No u

[thick reef]

MMMM Arms feeling strongggg

mhmmmmm

yummy yumm

[fickle berry]

Finished gym with worlds most mid pump

[thick reef]

hope we are feeling like a macho man!

[frank knoll]

I think Human looks better in mog tbh

[thick reef]

go back and finish the fight mate

[fickle berry]

Lmao I felt good during squats

Squats felt super good

Rest was mid as fuck

[frank knoll]

I’ve actually heard NE is the move because meld is busted

[fickle berry]

Chest was good too

Meld is strong yh

Meld is busted in pve too lmao

[frank knoll]

You can meld a glacial spike or bolt mid air and it does no damage

[fickle berry]

Yh

[frank knoll]

I saw a mage meld a storm bolt
I’m like “how the fuck”

[fickle berry]

Nutty

[sharp meteor]

Can write a weakaura that honks when there's a bolt headed your way.

Big flashing icon in middle of screen etc.

[thick reef]

thats sexy

[teal hedge]

@fickle berry Ever do accesories at the end just for a pump?

Feels great

[fickle berry]

That's mostly end of what I do

Finished with leg curls bicep curls and lat raises

They just all felt mid

[teal hedge]

I hit chest three different times in one sesh and got a good pump

Yeah bicep curls feel mid

I get more from pulldowns.

[fickle berry]

God is testing me but I got the cheat sheet

[teal hedge]

Jesus

I only find ones with 20 grammes of protein

[dawn niche]

Do you all think shadowlflame weapon enchant is always king? I feel like sophic is still good? how often does it proc?

[fickle berry]

Isn't sophic bis?

[fickle berry]

15 Danish krones for 42g protein 250kcal

[teal hedge]

That is so foul

[fickle berry]

Literally in almost all convenience stores

Nutty

People buy the entire cartons sometimes

[teal hedge]

Maaan

I usually only hit about 100g protein a day

[fickle berry]

Saw a dad and his kid buy 24 at once

[teal hedge]

Even though I should hit about 160-200g

[fickle berry]

I worse

I'm*

[dense herald]

I hit like 20g proteins

I dont eat shit

Brokie

[modest marten]

Line of sight. everything. It’s better to reset than to chase. With everything up you’ll lose trading cool-down for cool-down. they have more escapes than you have gapclosers. Force them to burn one of their cooldowns to get you in line so you don’t end up losing the trades

[dense herald]

Feels smartge

[sharp meteor]

Oh, nice. Most of the ones I see are like 15-20.

[dense herald]

Just line mages 24/7 dont even attack them

[fickle berry]

I'll try that thanks man

[fickle berry]

Unconventional non zugzug tactic

[modest marten]

keep an eye on cast bars too

you can spell reflect clone and poly

it’s so god damn funny seeing a mage poly themselves

[dense herald]

What is love

[shy hinge]

I kinda feel vs lock part it’s more the run over

[modest marten]

take wrecking throw vs lock

just nuke their shields

[shy hinge]

Agree

[modest marten]

try to be mindful of your buffs into aff aswell

bitter immunity with unstable affliction on you basicslly cancels out the heal lol

UA dispel damage is fucked

UA should be a high prio interrupt honestly

worth charging for

it can kill a warrior

fury is quite dependant on uptime for self healing and being enraged makes you take reduced damage

if you are chasing, try to atleast be hitting something

even if it’s a minion

[brazen drum]

quick question to maths nerds what would be the benefits between these?

[modest marten]

ones a mace ones a sword

[brazen drum]

What would be possibly the best?

[modest marten]

they are identical

[brazen drum]

sorry it's tlk

[modest marten]

some classes can’t use maces or swords

[brazen drum]

missused discord

[ruby temple]

What race you are really if they got mace spec or sword spec

[modest marten]

oh yeah. there’s that

[brazen drum]

human

playing protpvp atc in tlk

[ruby temple]

Then I believe you can take either one since humans have sword and mace specialization

[brazen drum]

Yeah I know the problem is the damage on them

[ruby temple]

That's bait only DPS matters

[brazen drum]

why the difference how will it impact my damage and what would be the best?

[modest marten]

@fickle berry into locks, dks and hunters improved whirlwind helps big time. let’s you generate mad rage with whirlwind on the minions when u have no uptime on players

[fickle berry]

Yeah I wasn't sure, my friend healer said it's not worth it cuz it's just padding damage meters but in my head I'm keeping uptime and leeching

[modest marten]

It’s definitely viable. Smexxin is running a 2p whirlwind annihilator/onslaught build at 2700rn

[fickle berry]

What's ur rating if I can ask? I'm just asking cuz he peaked at like 2.4-2.5

My healer i mean

[modest marten]

2.4 this season 2.8 last season

[fickle berry]

So I usually trust his calls

Ok cool

[modest marten]

whirlwind can proc your weapon enchants too

[fickle berry]

Yeah I noticed dmexxin is running 2p but I wasn't sure if that's good or not since smexxin is playing 3s and not 2s

Cuz he is also running blue silken

[modest marten]

idk i played ravager hurricane onslaught anger management beserkers torment to 2.2 in 2s this season

[fickle berry]

And I figured just cuz top player is using it doesn't make it bis/optimal/doesn't mean I'll use it effectively

[modest marten]

it just means it’s viable

[fickle berry]

You ran AM hurricane?

[modest marten]

ye

[fickle berry]

So basically pve?

[modest marten]

pretty much

[fickle berry]

Didn't it feel weird tho with ravager pretty much usually missing?

[modest marten]

the stacking strength bonus from hurricane scales with 20% pvp trinket strength bonus

it’s pretty strong

[fickle berry]

Yh i figured that

Do u just use that as a buff and not as ravager itself doing dmg then?

So for example u get to 100 crit bt, onslaught, pop CD's and go?

[modest marten]

yeah idc abt ravager damage

[fickle berry]

I feel it'd be easier for me to play that from a muscle memory perspective just cuz I'm used to pve

[modest marten]

i even drop free execute talent because it’s basically infinite rage and having execute to dump it into for am is good

[fickle berry]

U go for bt talent?

[modest marten]

weapon enchants proc from ravager and whirlwind

[modest marten]

ye

am gives you avatar uptime like you have odyns basicslly

with bt

[fickle berry]

Wait can u send a screene

Of ur talents

[modest marten]

I’ll paste you the import code when i get back home

[fickle berry]

Dope

[modest marten]

i run 2p

[fickle berry]

I'd love to learn more

[modest marten]

60% mastery 30 vers

[fickle berry]

What do u run? Chest shoulders?

[modest marten]

yea

there’s no real point stacking over 30 vers the stat scales so poorly

mastery is just better

[fickle berry]

Why not 4p if ur not utilizing bt?

[honest sundial]

gg

[fickle berry]

Yeah ik I'm at like 31

[honest sundial]

warrior still shit

get farmed

[fickle berry]

I'm still not 450 yet so

My wrist ring and trinket are 437

Well, 1 trinket

[modest marten]

all my dmg comes from rampage the flat mastery increase is just better and i already get insane rage overflow even with 130 cap

kind of hard not to with onslaught / ravager

[fickle berry]

Are you us based?

New onslaught buff probs makes that build even stronger no?

[modest marten]

yeah onslaught is pretty much mandatory now

[fickle berry]

I'm surprised rava is better than odyn tho

[modest marten]

it probably isn’t

i just like weird builds

[fickle berry]

I tried it a couple games and I felt incredibly weak

[modest marten]

i play single minded daggers sometimes too

lol

[fickle berry]

I'm not good so it's a grain of salt of

[modest marten]

fury has a ton of flexibility really

diff builds work with diff stats

ravager is good when you have dual enchants

the enchants proc at insane rates

let’s you run earthen writ / sophic devotion for example

1400 mastery and sophic at the same time

both with 30% uptime

[kind sentinel]

why not just use douible sophic, they stack

[modest marten]

i think mastery scales so insane on fury it might be worth it

my mastery jumps to like

75%

[frank knoll]

I did decent damage with ravager as Prot
Never tried as fury

I thought about taking it into a melee lobby like double DK or WW or something

[sharp meteor]

Rav feels great on prot into teams forced to fight in it, like double melee hitting an immobile teammate.

Bis prot build might be to play roar, spear and ravy now that I think about it.

[frank knoll]

I wonder if i could beat Fury warrior mage tower in just PvP gear

[sharp meteor]

Yer.

[fickle berry]

no reason why not

[slate gale]

its really easy tbh

[ancient sonnet]

Is Mage Tower still available?

[violet fossil]

yes

not just during legion time walking anymore

[fallen estuary]

Just got off work. Cant wait to splatter people on the concrete witg these new buffs n sheeit

[boreal veldt]

ms feels nice even outside of go windows

pvp dummy still taking 30% from cs though, in actual pvp it is 20%

[lavish quest]

I believe the pvp adjustments in general don't work on the dummy.

[ancient sonnet]

So is arms just decimating people now?

[sharp meteor]

Loading into double-triple warrior lobbies. Nature is healing.

Dreading the warlocks/mages, brothers...

[ancient sonnet]

Can't wait for the queue time spike

[frank knoll]

Ele is going to be a terror too

[green anchor]

When was it not

[frank knoll]

Yeah just looks like “kill imps, dodge boulders, avoid bad stuff on ground”

[ancient sonnet]

Yea fury's was super easy iirc. Just gotta prio which targets to kill

[frank knoll]

I did the havoc DH one in legion and i remember it being pretty hard with like 3 phases

[ancient sonnet]

I attempted shadow priests for awhile... that shit was brutal. But probably because I'm a zugger and don't really know shadow all that well. The set looks dope though

[fallen estuary]

whats that MS gem called again?

[fallen estuary]

LOGIN

warrior stacked lobby

me be prot

easy 6-6

but ngl arms is actually vicious to defend against as prot now holy shit

dude charged in and 1 MS chunked me 40% of my hp like gawdayum

looks like i gotta spec double wall against arms now

@sharp meteor oh em geez

oh me geeeez

double trink is actually INSANE

[naive prawn]

can you not cancelaura bladestorm when you have the hurricane talent?

[fallen estuary]

gave me 5% extra crit and with that on use i can legit chunk peoples hp

[sharp meteor]

Nope.

[sharp meteor]

Oh, I've just played the honor badge.

There's also double insignia which might be okay.

[fallen estuary]

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh'

i mean its not bad haste but that crit

im already 40% haste so the crit is huge

20% crit base with 40% haste is insane

W/o the trink i have 14% crit

[mild mango]

Hast or mastery as arms?

[fallen estuary]

mixed of all 3

22% mas gives me xtra 15% AP

while 40% haste and 20% crit

im walking into a melee lobby like a pimp

oh you said the bad spec

alr

[ivory granite]

fury or arms which has more burst damage rn
arms got a huge sexy buff

[sharp meteor]

Meathead gang.

Kill target was always the healers, lmao.

[fallen estuary]

back to r5

legit just gained mad 100 rating

[rapid shore]

why rally still have 3min cd :D

it 15% :C

[fallen estuary]

yo kennie

me n u get our r1 title bro

welcome to warrior land

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, curious to see where cutoff moves to.

[fallen estuary]

prob stay the same

if arash gets another warior up there he wouldnt be able to get 2 of those slots. blizzard cracked down on titles last season. alts dont get titles if you are taking r1 slots

[sharp meteor]

No, alts don't occupy a title slot.

Cutoff is currently where the third bnet sits.

Which is Foraken.

[fallen estuary]

well lets shove them down

[sharp meteor]

?

[fallen estuary]

send them lower on the LB

make the cutoff higher

im headding for 2400 as prot

[sharp meteor]

I can't make the cutoff higher, I have two chars above him

[fallen estuary]

im no lifing this spec

[sharp meteor]

it's up to you or somebody else

[spice hornet]

they need to do something about FoF parry

with how short FoF CD is

disgusting

[fallen estuary]

dawg wtf

thats you?

LMAO?

[sharp meteor]

Yeah?

[fallen estuary]

i didnt now

[sharp meteor]

of the 6 top prots

I'm 4 of them

[fallen estuary]

and i thought i had better things going with my warrior jesus christ

how many wars you got 20k?

[sharp meteor]

Was gonna push a fifth and sixth if I had nothing else to do

trying to figure out the gearing situation with fury on one of them

[fallen estuary]

save a spot for ye olde dabdaddy ❤️

i want le title

[sharp meteor]

Who knows who it's a roll of the dice as the what the lobby looks like

[fallen estuary]

dawg im loving this new meta shift

it came at the most perfect of times

DH and warrior are now up top

and free for me to eat that good old 6-6's

when im with a dk i just tell him to rock DS phys red

and its actually fucking insane LOL

if they go dk he takes 0 damage

[ivory granite]

so arms is meta now?

[fallen estuary]

yea

you should 100% que arms

[ivory granite]

does more damage than fury???

[fallen estuary]

its your time to shine

and yea

[ivory granite]

FINALLY

[fallen estuary]

i just got out of a 2100 lobby and arms warrior just RIPPED the fury in half

[ivory granite]

YAYAYAYAYA ARMS IS FINALLY GOOD

[mild mango]

Still tryin to figure out haste or mastery better for arms

[ivory granite]

did the stat prio change? i think mastery is better

[mild mango]

So what 20% haste rest mastery?

[fallen estuary]

go like 15% haste rest mastery

[teal hedge]

Depends on what you're comfy running

[fallen estuary]

or idk if you guys are willing but crit might be a goto stat rn

MS hitting for insane numberts

might wanna make it hit harder

[ivory granite]

crit?

[teal hedge]

We'll see

[fallen estuary]

possibly

mastery + crit

[ivory granite]

mm idk versa ispretty gud

[teal hedge]

Let's just hope they do not revert until at least the last day of this momth

That's when i can get back

[stable drift]

Nah i think bleed build / mastery will win alot more then crit

[ivory granite]

bleed build?

skullsplitter?

[teal hedge]

Always played bleed 😎

Troar/rend

Skullsplitter is optional

[stable drift]

Nah fuck that shitty ss

[ivory granite]

so mastery or crit rn

wait

versa/mastery versa/crit or mastery/crit

[teal hedge]

I don't think crit is the play.

[ivory granite]

haste trinket or crit trinket

[teal hedge]

Haste is better, I believe.

[fallen estuary]

,i mean its good for me either way lmao, ill farm them on the way up... and the way down

[ivory granite]

so still versa/mastery

??

[teal hedge]

Yeah

[ivory granite]

mkay

im so happy arms is finally good again 😄

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, nothing crushes Fury quite like Arms.

[mild mango]

So big one here hurricane or unhinged now that Ms slaps

[sharp meteor]

Just get swung into the whole game.

[fallen estuary]

did u win

[limber relic]

wtf is this

XDDDD

1400 healer in a 2.2+ lobby?

[wheat jay]

yes

not enough healers in the game

[limber relic]

xddd

[sharp meteor]

Cr isn't mmr.

Matches are made based on mmr.

[vapid tartan]

Fury back where it belongs

[limber relic]

yeah but how does a healer that has never touched 1500+ get in a lobby against 2.2+

[sharp meteor]

Because he's either winning every game or has mmr from last season

[vapid tartan]

His starting mmr was probs 2.1 from elite last ssn and he lost a game or two

[limber relic]

he was duelist last ssn

[vapid tartan]

LOL WTF

[limber relic]

on another acc

[vapid tartan]

yeah I got no answers

[limber relic]

this guy has never touched solo shuffle as priest

https://check-pvp.fr/eu/Khaz Modan/Saintvorta

or mby he did

[vapid tartan]

How long was q?

[limber relic]

last ss 2100

[vapid tartan]

If it went on long enough that could b it

[lusty solar]

My first game this season was at 2,3k mmr this far into season not a single game played, was 2,6 s1

[frank knoll]

Fury and arms gonna chew up all of the Aff locks that will appear out of the woodwork

Stoked to play some arms but not regearing for crit
Also Unhinged good again? And why did Spear fall off?

[limber relic]

spear fell off cuz crit nerfs

[ivory granite]

yeah

[vapid tartan]

Half the specs can also escape easily

[frank knoll]

I was getting spear 100k crits last season

[ivory granite]

remember when 100k crit was awesome last szn

[vapid tartan]

Crit is nerfed and tier set doesnt as much for us as last season

[limber relic]

so for u NA players

is Arms > fury?

[ivory granite]

yes

[frank knoll]

I won some games off of it I mean

[ivory granite]

does more damage and has a bit more utilliyu

utillity

[vapid tartan]

Arms back where it belongs

[frosty nexus]

is arms OP or should i go back to baldurs gate 3

[frank knoll]

Supatease has Arms A tier and Fury S tier

[ivory granite]

well hes biased lmfao

[frank knoll]

Lol