pvp

[teal hedge]

Furybros stay losing

I told you arms was the best spec

[random fractal]

Death wish is op

Can't prove me wrong.

[fallen estuary]

kennie

listen

tomorrow

i need you to take ALL my mage lobbies

i need to curb stomp abestos again

and get that fancy rating

[hot solstice]

so rn tooltip says mortal does 44k

[north thicket]

Mud, Dabdaddy and Kydrav MVPs spamming the US forums and they did it! 🥳

[hot solstice]

will be 54k on reset

[torpid lintel]

Bladestorm time bois

[honest sundial]

cant wait to mage lock into all these warriors

gunna be so fun

[hot solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/your-a-wizard-harry-gif-3829442

[fallen estuary]

alright bros

im gonna take a cold shower like a real man and sleep for tomorrow

[dense herald]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/additional-class-tuning-changes-coming-tomorrow-334642?webhook

[teal hedge]

Cold showers are the absolute worst

[dense herald]

Guys what do we think with arms buffs

[fallen estuary]

if youre 5'2 and have a weak heart yea its the worse

[teal hedge]

It's gonna make us a little overtuned, imo

[dense herald]

Rly?

[fallen estuary]

no

[dense herald]

Burst is nerfed alot tho

[teal hedge]

I'm the smallest man from my local area (6'4), I admit, but cold showers just make my nervous system pop off

[sharp meteor]

Cold showers are great what

[queen plank]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-going-to-be-carnage-gif-26408581

[dense herald]

10% colossus smash nerf

[fallen estuary]

just think about it, ray still hits you for 600k total

[wheat jay]

doesnt matter

its gonna offset the burst nerf

and be a positive outside of it

[teal hedge]

Feels like daggers are stabbed in me when I take them

[dense herald]

My throat hurts after cold shiwer

[fallen estuary]

if 6'4 is the term for 5'1 in your town i would be worried

[sharp meteor]

Hmm. That's odd.

[dense herald]

So is arms gonna be better than fury now

Or was it always

I found fury easier to push in 2s

[cerulean jay]

arms is saved

praise the lord

[dense herald]

Im at 2k rating rn

[fallen estuary]

stop showering in daggers, line the daggers

[dense herald]

2.2k*

[teal hedge]

I have to brace as if I'm getting punched and then focus on breathing to survive them

[sharp meteor]

I'll usually start the shower warm then reduce it to cool then eventually cold. Feels nice.

[cerulean jay]

@fallen estuary

we feeling goood now

?

[fallen estuary]

no we still need more buffs

ray still hits for 600k btw

[cerulean jay]

dont care

[dense herald]

Revert mortal strike modifire nerfs and we guccu fr fr

[fallen estuary]

blizzard loves listening to my opinions every thread i make

so my word is the law

martials gonna get unnerfed

[teal hedge]

Oh I just start cold

[wheat jay]

won't be surprised if arms ends up being overtuned now

[teal hedge]

Oh, and also, aren't cold showers bad for your muscles?

[wheat jay]

cuz those are YUGE buffs

[fallen estuary]

for a moment yea

[teal hedge]

No I mean

It makes them grow less, but it promotes a faster recovery

[fallen estuary]

tf no, cold showers mimic a cold when you are done but you recover quickly from it

[dense herald]

Ye

[fallen estuary]

if that happened every time i took a cold shower i would be the most natural annorexic guy in the world

[dense herald]

I take like 1-2 days to rexover tho

[fallen estuary]

flat stanley wouldnt have no ground on me

[scarlet flame]

Yeah that Ms buff is giant

[dense herald]

R they

[scarlet flame]

Yea

[dense herald]

Ms got 10% extra buff

[scarlet flame]

Very huge

[teal hedge]

Not 10%

Look more

https://www.wowhead.com/news/additional-class-tuning-changes-coming-tomorrow-334642?webhook

[fallen estuary]

basically a 25% buff with unnerfed deep wounsd

bro skullsplitters gonna hit hard now

[teal hedge]

25% buff

[dense herald]

I mean 10% over the existing buffs we got

[west mural]

bros how dafuq do u counter the fucking survial hunter chain into trap spam as healer? seems op

[scarlet flame]

These buffs are insane actually

[teal hedge]

And deep wounds becoming stronger

[torpid lintel]

They nerfed avatar and colosul don’t get to happy

[scarlet flame]

Deeps wounds got buffed by 28%

Bs already crit 50k and now buffed more

[teal hedge]

Depends on muscles, spinal erectors take me like 3-4 days.

[scarlet flame]

5% off avatar isn’t big. Cs is more big but our damage outside of it is going to be gross

[dense herald]

Is it tho

[scarlet flame]

Yes

??????

[wheat jay]

fam, big buffs

[dense herald]

25% buff to 1ability

[wheat jay]

yes

MAIN ability

and execute

[fallen estuary]

ok guys what do you want buffed next

ill send blizzard a love letter

[scarlet flame]

Your most used ability

[teal hedge]

Nothing

[west mural]

it's better to have some more dmg outside of CS and avatar

i'll take that anyday thx

[scarlet flame]

And deep wounds

[north thicket]

Second Wind!

[teal hedge]

Getting more buffed will most likely result in a nerf that's too big

[scarlet flame]

30% buff

[teal hedge]

Arms is gonna be in a really good spot.

[dense herald]

Overpower is most used

[fallen estuary]

and thats a good thing

[wheat jay]

wasn't in a bad spot even

[scarlet flame]

You’re bad then

[teal hedge]

Yeah, went from good to really good

[wheat jay]

ms most used, 100%

if you have overpower used more then oh my lord

[teal hedge]

Arms was already solid, but this just overtunes us a bit

[wheat jay]

you gotta press diff buttons

[teal hedge]

I press ms every time it procs

[north thicket]

Yeah, let's not speculate with insane, overtuned, rock solid

[dense herald]

Well its not my fault i only get ms procs when its about to go off cd

[wheat jay]

its a big buff

[north thicket]

You could use all these for all the other classes in the game

[wheat jay]

sadga

[scarlet flame]

Stop acting like arms was d tier lmao

[fallen estuary]

it was f teir

and now its d teir

[scarlet flame]

It wasn’t

[fallen estuary]

well it is now

[teal hedge]

Arms was like, B or A

[scarlet flame]

It was b tier

[teal hedge]

And now it's climbing into A+ or S

[scarlet flame]

Now it’s a tier

[slim sun]

SKS back again?

[fallen estuary]

arms in b teir is just as bad as f teir

[scarlet flame]

Probably no sks

[north thicket]

B tier going into A or A+ where it belongs

[fallen estuary]

oh shit my cold shower

ok cya

[scarlet flame]

And you’re dumb asf it’s ok

[teal hedge]

I'd bet more on running unhinged instead of sks

[fallen estuary]

you easily fall for it every time, question yourself on whos the dumb asf one

i take shower now

[torpid lintel]

Arms was b tier

A+ maybe after reset

[scarlet flame]

You can’t pretend like every dogshit take you have is fake when all of your takes are dogshit. Lmao

[north thicket]

Be happy, enjoy the good changes!

[fallen estuary]

then why are you chowing down on my big brown piles in the grass then if it isnt of interest

you are supposed to be the smart one but here you are talking to me lmfao

[scarlet flame]

Saying you’re wrong is of interest

Spreading wrong information is why so many retards exist here saying arms is the worst spec in the game

[mild thunder]

We got the big buffs

[scarlet flame]

And think these buffs are huge impactful ones

[fallen estuary]

spreading wrong information got warrior buffed

[mild thunder]

Everyone happy now?

[fallen estuary]

so my word is law

[teal hedge]

Wrong message

Fuck

[scarlet flame]

Just hope it’s not op broken and we get nerfed again

[teal hedge]

There we og

[scarlet flame]

[mild thunder]

I think it’ll be a pretty good spot

[north thicket]

Chad arent you sleeping man

[mild thunder]

People just have to used to not oneshotting

[north thicket]

It's like 4 am Perth time

[scarlet flame]

Yeah I think so too

The deep wounds buff is going to feel good

[mild thunder]

Why is this taurine guy such a fucking parasocial creep

Holy shit

[scarlet flame]

It and rend going to crit 20k+

[north thicket]

Hahah

[sharp meteor]

What's the lore on him again

[teal hedge]

Galachad, baby, why are you awake ❤️

[torpid lintel]

Prot has the strongest bleeds from all specs xd

[scarlet flame]

[mild thunder]

This is how I should be asked

[sharp meteor]

It do.

[ruby temple]

I imagine our build isn't changing tomorrow since it just makes all our current crap stronger? 🤔🤔

[scarlet flame]

Bs crit some guy for 80k they gunna be mad

[torpid lintel]

Yea xd

[scarlet flame]

Prot needs to die

[teal hedge]

If you run sks you might be inclined to run unhinged instead. But other than that, I can't think of anything.

[scarlet flame]

No tank specs in arena

[dense herald]

Was my msg deleted dafuk

[teal hedge]

This guy gets it

[torpid lintel]

U stacking haste or mastery as prot?

[sharp meteor]

Not today. Nerf mages so I can start my legend wins.

[sharp meteor]

Just haste.

[north thicket]

What's your problem with Prot (warriors)

[dense herald]

Whats bs

[scarlet flame]

I hope mages get buffed vs tank specs

[sharp meteor]

I was gonna try some more mastery/vers for the shockwave setup but just dmgspam haste build feels nice.

[scarlet flame]

Bladestorm

[torpid lintel]

Yea some people stack mastery to

[mild thunder]

I still haven’t even gotten my 1800 on warrior yet

[teal hedge]

Tank-lobbies in shuffle are really painful for arms.

[ruby temple]

Will spear come back now that BS does more damage to lock them in the blender?

[mild thunder]

Gonna wait for these buffs to carry me

[dense herald]

Hmm

[scarlet flame]

The set is clean get it

[dense herald]

Maybe its time

To go spear build again

[scarlet flame]

No

[dense herald]

Spear + bladestorm

[scarlet flame]

[dense herald]

Brrrrr

[torpid lintel]

Mastery stronger burst and bigger ignore pain but ur sustain kinda sucks

[mild thunder]

It’s okay, im not in love with it

[dense herald]

Why sustain succ it i creses bleed dam

[scarlet flame]

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, but shuffle more about winning on goes, I think.

[north thicket]

Sure but it's not op in any case (compared to some other tanks), just annoying into physical dmg dealers

[sharp meteor]

Haste just a lot more globals and thoughput.

[torpid lintel]

Haste faster bleed dmg

[mild thunder]

I think I’m gonna have to play my ret again, their elite set is gorgeous

[dense herald]

True

[sharp meteor]

Mastery/vers more for big shockwaves, slams and shield charges.

[teal hedge]

Yeah it's not op, but as an arms main I cannot respect prot players for making arms harder.

[dense herald]

No bro it looks like scuffed legion set

It has a robe

[torpid lintel]

Example with lot of haste u do 9 rend in 12 seconds but with heavy mastery u might do 7

[dense herald]

Das holy pala set

[mild thunder]

The shoulders are so big and bulky

[dense herald]

Truege,haste might be better with cs nerfs maybe cuz more abilities

[torpid lintel]

I miss spear

[scarlet flame]

Big and bulky plate sets are king shut

[dense herald]

And we can do alot more sustain now with ms buffs

[scarlet flame]

Shit even

[torpid lintel]

Who misses spear one shots

[dense herald]

Yessir

[mild thunder]

Shot even

Shat perhaps

[scarlet flame]

[torpid lintel]

Sl arms so good💔

[north thicket]

It reminds a bit of the Gladiator spec we (almost) had, and deserves it's place under the sunshine

[torpid lintel]

Maybe this reset it will be better

[dense herald]

I thought u meant s1

[torpid lintel]

Shadowlands arms

[dense herald]

Damn i didnt play much then

I loved s1 arms

[teal hedge]

I'm sorry but I do not have this nuance, if you make arms harder I will destroy you 💔

[dense herald]

Get 2 op buffs

Spear

Bladestorm

Brrr

With unhinged

Dis s1 df i mean

Guys will we be the new dks randomly hitting for 100k mortal strikes outside of cds?

[charred onyx]

new arms buffs look not bad

[ruby temple]

People are dogging on the spear blender now but watch next week when Galachad and Mud are arguing about who said it was good first smh

[torpid lintel]

Ik how to wreck prot as arms get wrecking throw and talent pvp and use it when they use ignore pain it hits for like 40% of his hp every 20s

[charred onyx]

the newly updated ones

[dense herald]

It doesnt go past shields i think

Like if u have 20k shield u hit for 100k u wont do 100k

U do 20k to thr shield

[torpid lintel]

It does I dueled a prot

[teal hedge]

It's not that, it's that arms really suffers without a healer.

[mild thunder]

@sharp meteor you don’t exist

[torpid lintel]

Prot can stack ignore pain to 300k

And wrecking removes it all

[fallen estuary]

we need more shield slam buffsd

[teal hedge]

I like the transmorgs of prot warrior more, as shields look cool

[torpid lintel]

Sword and board

[fallen estuary]

that too

[sharp meteor]

I'm happy. Feels good after they said they'd nerf Avatar and Protection didn't get any sort of compensation.

[torpid lintel]

It will fix it

Idk why they removed it

[fallen estuary]

we need martial prowess unnerfed and we need shield slam buffed big time

[sharp meteor]

Execute buff for finishing power is great when it already hits hard and then potentially Deep Wounds affecting prot.

[dense herald]

Our stuns should be made 4sec

[hot solstice]

50k with old cds mods

[mild thunder]

I’m pretty sure they’re different spell IDs so unfortunately I don’t think it’ll trickle over

[fallen estuary]

hes gonna call everyone a retard cause you said that doomer watch out

[dense herald]

It feels so bad i stun healer shockwave dps n i only use like 2 globals b4 healer outta stun

[torpid lintel]

With bit of mastery it’s gonna hit hard

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, probably, as one is the mastery.

[teal hedge]

haste moment

[dense herald]

Imnplaying fury bruv

I get like 3 globals as fury

[teal hedge]

That's your mistake

[mild thunder]

I wonder how sks might feel with deep wounds getting buffed

[torpid lintel]

Mastery is fun for oneshots other then that it’s bad

[sharp meteor]

Still, 15% on a 60-90k finishing hit is nice.

[dense herald]

Playing fury?

[teal hedge]

Yeah

Don't do that

[dense herald]

Its much smoother

I just cant win against ww monks

As arms i win some lose some

[torpid lintel]

If u came to me 30 minutes ago I would say fury but now go arms xd

[fallen estuary]

Yo what the fuck. computer Tourettes

[dense herald]

But ww monk just goes on my healer with 70k dps and they always have druid healer to kite me if i go healer

[dense herald]

Nah fury still big

Its also getting buffs

I hit 82k execute

[naive prawn]

but them arms buffs tho

they dont pull ahead of fury

[teal hedge]

Yo what the fuck

[dense herald]

But that was only with mainhands i think offhand mightve hit aswell

[fallen estuary]

LMAO

it was a good pic ngl

[dense herald]

Fury is easier to play fury me

Arms just feels clunky a bit

[torpid lintel]

I think fury exacute hits harder then arms can some1 confirm

[dense herald]

As fury i just hit ppl for 80k onslaughts out of nowhere

[mild thunder]

Proud of you @scarlet flame

[fickle berry]

does battle trance work with crushing blow?

or is it still bugged as the pinned msgs say?

[dense herald]

Depends onnhow much rage u use execute on arms

My highest hitting execute was bigger on arms

[mild thunder]

It works

[dense herald]

Who tf plays crushing blow

[fickle berry]

idk what to play

[dense herald]

I tried that and i did negative dmg

[fickle berry]

im new to pvp

[mild thunder]

Raging blow build is very good

[dense herald]

Play bloodthirst with onslaught instead of odyns fury

[torpid lintel]

Yep it’s bad

[fallen estuary]

RB builds only good if your healer has a spinal cord connected to their brain

[torpid lintel]

Nah raging blow spec sucks

[teal hedge]

You lift?

[mild thunder]

It does everything the bloodthirst build does and more

It’s just better

[sharp meteor]

[torpid lintel]

I don’t want to press more buttons tho

And bt build u do more bt

[torpid lintel]

Like why tf did they buff exacute on prot

And btw

[fallen estuary]

cause they love me

[torpid lintel]

Prot has the strongest exacute and bleed dmg

Wtf

[fallen estuary]

i asked them for a prot buff before reset and the actually did it with my list of demands on the forums

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dancing-lol-funny-nae-nae-gif-16830192

i whip and nae nae to the staff buffing warrior

[torpid lintel]

Ur gonna see lot of locks after reset that’s bad for prot

[teal hedge]

You send this again and I am going completely feral

[fallen estuary]

not really lmfao

locks are legit the best prey for prot warriors

[torpid lintel]

Affi locks melt prot wars

[sharp meteor]

Uhhh, I think Warlock can be fine. Depends on the lineup.

Demo feels good.

Aff less so.

[fallen estuary]

Ignore pain def stance

[fickle berry]

yh

[torpid lintel]

I got one fully geared with gems ik

[fallen estuary]

🥱

[teal hedge]

You love to see it

[fickle berry]

my healer better than me

[fallen estuary]

aff lock barely scrapes prot war

[fickle berry]

hes helping me

[teal hedge]

Been on a bulk for 19 years 💪

[fickle berry]

were doing 2s

what talents should i run then

im really confused im new

[teal hedge]

You should check the pins!

[torpid lintel]

U can beat destro and demo but aff melts prot

[teal hedge]

We have builds up there

[torpid lintel]

Like literally

[fickle berry]

this is my standard

[teal hedge]

Oh I don't know anything about fury, but you should check the pins out

[fallen estuary]

dawg im r5 2100+ in prot. i faced so many aff locks and i can def tell you they barely do shit to prot warrior

ignore pain spam nulls em out

[torpid lintel]

After reset😳

[fallen estuary]

siting def stance and ignore pain makes them useless

[sharp meteor]

Nah, prot melts in aff lobby if game drags on.

aff + caster you're actually just a quest mob

[frank knoll]

God I hate when Aff and Ele are good

[sharp meteor]

dk/warr + prot vs aff/melee you're fine

[fallen estuary]

if damp is huge suer its a loss

but when yo ucan finish the game as fast as i can they are legit not a problem

[torpid lintel]

It’s just vs affi locks but vs destro and demo u destroy them but after reset rip xd

[fallen estuary]

1st burst with CCed healer forces defensives from them and 2nd burst kills them 100% guarrenteeeeeed no money back

[torpid lintel]

U going full haste or mas?

Mas might help after reset with bigger ip

[fallen estuary]

the only problem spec of warlock is demo since they have soul link n shit and 20000 stuns. but can be managed

[frank knoll]

I messed around in a BG as Prot yesterday and I legit did as much damage than I would’ve as Arms

[fallen estuary]

i use haste and mastery

with 15% base crit

35% mastery and 39% haste

[teal hedge]

Running mastery still feels so weird

[fallen estuary]

cause pure mastery is shit

[torpid lintel]

Ur going full Sustain

[fallen estuary]

ye

make your dots hurt and your st pressure as well

[scarlet flame]

digging through messages is peak cringe

[torpid lintel]

Running full mastery is good u get bigger ip so it’s good vs casters and shit

[fallen estuary]

eeeeehhhhh IP isnt really a problem tho

most people are not smart enough to realise we take 70% more damage in pvp

[torpid lintel]

Blood dk dmg is insane tho

[fallen estuary]

so ip doenst really matter unless you are taking damage from bodyguard or getting targeted

[scarlet flame]

and it got buffed to 70% damage now so its still gunna crit harder than before

[fallen estuary]

thats why i usually rock 2 walls

[torpid lintel]

True

Why did blizz nerf crit

I miss running crit as arms

Seeing big chunks gone💔

[fallen estuary]

i had a DK pull me behind a pillar and almost kill me but IP spam and wall made his brain reset and he went warlock and i easily killed him

[hot solstice]

it is 140% already

[fallen estuary]

thats prot pally

[torpid lintel]

Prot wrecks dk

[hot solstice]

its less than 30%

[torpid lintel]

They can’t kite a prot war

Like they do vs fury and arms

[scarlet flame]

its damage already got buffed by 60%

or did you forget that from like a month ago

[dense herald]

Bro

My crushong blows

[fallen estuary]

technically you can get kited as a prot

[dense herald]

Hit for 20k

I hut for 20k

I shadowlands

Its dogshit

[mild thunder]

Skill issue

[hot solstice]

u saying its is hitting 50k crits now when its 140% in pvp

[torpid lintel]

Try blood they do insane dmg

[fallen estuary]

yea i got a blood for when i meet R1 cutoffs

[hot solstice]

it will be 170% butt with nerfd cds damage will be pretty much similar

[mild thunder]

Crushing blow can easily hit for 70k+, but it’s also the fact that it buffs rampage way harder than annihilator

[fallen estuary]

and get my legend title like a boss

[scarlet flame]

play hurricane and crit 50k outside cds

🤷

[torpid lintel]

More dmg then prot right

[fickle berry]

is there a way to make autoqueue not load if its a pvp queue

[torpid lintel]

Hurricane is nerfed to the ground it gives u like 8% dmg

[hot solstice]

I am not arguing

[fallen estuary]

theyre technically same damage as prot

[hot solstice]

its still godd fix

[scarlet flame]

its 15% strength

[hot solstice]

good*

[fallen estuary]

but they dont really add anything to a instance other than abducting healers lmfao

[torpid lintel]

It’s nerfed I think unhinged still better

[scarlet flame]

its nerfed by 50%, so instead of 30% strength it gives you 15% strength

unhinged is not better

[fallen estuary]

unhinged is a wasted talent lmao

[torpid lintel]

U sure?

[scarlet flame]

yes

rn its litreal 12k mortal strikes

[torpid lintel]

Ik it’s nerfed by 60% in pvp

[dense herald]

Who tf friended me from this server

[scarlet flame]

its nerfed by 40%

[torpid lintel]

Saw lot of r1 running it still

[scarlet flame]

60% effectiveness

[dense herald]

Some fkin scam girl

[limber relic]

Deep Wounds damage is no longer reduced in PvP combat (was 28% reduced).
Mortal Strike damage increased by 35% in PvP combat (was 10%).
Bladestorm damage increased by 70% in PvP combat (was 40%).
Fatal Mark may stack up to a maximum of 5 times in PvP combat (was 8 times).
Execute damage increased by 15% in PvP combat.

[torpid lintel]

Dks are shitting thier pants in dis server

They are scared we getting huge buffs

[scarlet flame]

good

[torpid lintel]

🤣

[fallen estuary]

btw that 15% prot exe buffs going to be absolutely insane btw

[dense herald]

Bro

Small buffs

Our burst is nerfed by 15%

Its so sad

[torpid lintel]

So guys are we taking 2/2 cruel strikes after reset?

[fallen estuary]

tbh with those buffs we deserve more ngl

[dense herald]

Whut was that

The execute talents with crit?

[fallen estuary]

we need martial prowess unnerfed and an additional 50% more crit damage bonus

[torpid lintel]

Yes

[torpid lintel]

If only they made outburst stack to 8 when u avatar like sl

[mental knoll]

is it possible to unlock the heroic aberrus transmog through pvp gear by converting it through the catalyst then upgrading it to 428?

[torpid lintel]

That will help a lot

Remeber the prot oneshot in sl guys xddd

The first week it was oneshotting tanks and healers

Then it got nerfed

[mild thunder]

Transmog channel more likely to know

[mental knoll]

👍

[fickle berry]

annihilator works with 4p?

like, is it good?

[graceful ginkgo]

During CDs MS should deal 8.5% more damage than before the changes, avatar/cs nerfs included

[muted surge]

Hello is Arms good yet

[graceful ginkgo]

Outside of CDs it should be 23% more

[dense herald]

Damn

Outside of cds game is useless anyway

Target will still stay abive 90% hp

[frank knoll]

I’m a little nervous to queue as Prot in arena/shuffle. No issue screwing around with it in BGs

[dense herald]

Ur only gonna annoy other ppl

Dps ppl

Theres no need to be nervous tho ur not gonna drop ur fury or arms rating

[frank knoll]

I know what to do as fury and arms
I have no idea what Prot is supposed to do

[dense herald]

Oneshot with shockwave

Spear + shockwave oneshot

[frank knoll]

Tank queues fast?

Also heard a dude saying that nobody targets the Prot in arena

[spice hornet]

what stat prio we thinkin still for arms

[fickle berry]

this fight lasted 30s

idk how or why

[graceful ginkgo]

Idk man, the DW buff looks solid as well

[scarlet flame]

mastery stan for me

i like 15% haste rest vers mast

[uncut pollen]

40/40/10/10 is pretty good

[dense herald]

Dw does like 10% of my dmg give or take

So thats a 2.8% buff to overall dmg

Guys im marking these buffs as nerfs

[tribal wedge]

the fuel by violence's dream comes true????

[scarlet flame]

i feel like a lot of people here dont understand how a lot of your damage happens as arms and its funny lol

[dense herald]

I dont like

The cs nerfs

Im fine with avatar nerf

But they should revert the cs nerf

[scarlet flame]

yeah i dont like it either

but MS doing more damage outside of CS and deepwounds doing 28% more damage is good

execute 15% damage buff

is good

[tribal wedge]

i think if they unnerf CS now, our burst would be pretty broken

[dense herald]

Let it be

[scarlet flame]

no

[dense herald]

Or nerf it by 5% instead of 10%

[azure pollen]

is arms actually back on the table

on reset?

[limber relic]

Overall its a 10% ms buff in burst and 25% buff outside of cs+ava

[scarlet flame]

im killing people with sharpen and not usually in cds

[limber relic]

Yeah but u will have pressure outside of burst now

[scarlet flame]

yes

[limber relic]

Instead of just waiting on ava+cs

So u will stil pump without bursting

Btw will sks be viable again?

🤔

[scarlet flame]

might be

deep wounds buff is pretty big

[limber relic]

Yeah

So its basicly a 28% buff to sks

[dense herald]

Its not 28/ buff

[limber relic]

kiiiinda

[dense herald]

Cuz sks uses rend and dw

But it still does like 100k dmg rn

[limber relic]

the dw part will do 28% more dmg

[tribal wedge]

and sks still nerfed by 33% in pvp so it's probably less

[limber relic]

yeah well

kinda

[dense herald]

Yeah but 10% Ms buff in burst

So burst is still technicly nerfed

Cuz u have other abilities thatll do less dmg like dots and overpower and

Yeah warriors have 3 abilities

[limber relic]

thats very true

but if u play double BS

u will use those 2 BS

and use MS inbetween

[dense herald]

Is bs rly gonna be that good

Idk it ticks for like 20k rn for me

In cds

37k crit

Altho i think blizz has nerfed my chars dmg

[limber relic]

got buffed

idk if the new updated notes are additional

but

combined its 60% buff

but idk

"Bladestorm damage is increased by 20% in PvP."
"Bladestorm damage increased by 70% in PvP combat (was 40%)."

We’ve added the following adjustments, which will **ALSO **go live with scheduled weekly maintenance:

[hexed ether]

when you que for a solo shuffle and your weapon tells you to sit this one out

[fickle berry]

annihilator is basically just rampage>bt>bt>whirlwind/slam right?

[dense herald]

Since when do u whirlwind and slam

Isnt bt just more dmg

I rarley use slam

[ruby temple]

Whenever I've played furry I usually do rampage > bt > bt and then can rampage again with needing to slap in onslaught once in awhile

[fickle berry]

i mean, cd

[fickle berry]

i dont have onslaught on the anni build

its the 1 i took from the pins

[fickle berry]

i meant more whats the prio here

cuz im new to pvp/annihi

[dense herald]

I use onslaught on cd i think cuz it does good dmg

[teal hedge]

Fuck it, I think I'm renewing the last day of the konth

[dense herald]

Huh

[ruby temple]

I bet that's gonna be the case anyways with buffs. My main point to the guy above was that most of the time I only ever do rampage and two BT and then have enough rage to loop again lol

[teal hedge]

Had to drop the game to focus on graduation

[gilded scaffold]

So, is arms going to be good tomorrow, or should I keep gearing my ret

thoughts?>

[dense herald]

Why would u gear ret

Trash spec

[teal hedge]

And I originally wanted to get a job before hopping back on, but I'm feeling the wow itch.

[dense herald]

No mortal strike

So its dog in pvp

[gilded scaffold]

I feel like those changes are a decent bump in overall dam

but not sure if its competative with ww/uhdk/ret

[teal hedge]

It is

[dense herald]

Ret does way too much dmg but it doesnt have damage reduction

[teal hedge]

It will put arms among the strongest melee specs

[dense herald]

And it only does big dam every 2min

Every 1min is mini burst

As arms u have miniburst every 30 sec

[teal hedge]

Literally buffes our main button in two ways

[fickle berry]

ret: AAAAAAAAAAAA
disarm

[teal hedge]

Permabulk

[fickle berry]

yes

[teal hedge]

Got a lifting-question if you don't mind

[fickle berry]

sure

[teal hedge]

Should the lower back get tired from squatting?

Doing 90 kg 4x4 rn

[fickle berry]

no

[dense herald]

Disarm does nothing against ret u can still spam 70k hammer of wraths

[fickle berry]

exhausted? sure, sore/tired? no

[ruby temple]

Unless you are pushing rank 1s idt if matters. Every spec from what I've seen has representation above 2400 (not including tanks)

[gilded scaffold]

So stats would be vers>mast>haste>crit> for pvp? or vers>haste>mast

[teal hedge]

Huh?

[fickle berry]

like, ofc ur working ur lower back

[gilded scaffold]

and your lower back shouldnt ever hurt from squats

[fickle berry]

so ur exhausting it

[dense herald]

Im tryna think of a bad spec

[fickle berry]

but u shouldnt feel pain/soreness

from squats

[gilded scaffold]

you're loading your back wrong

[teal hedge]

No it just feels tired and uncomfy

[fickle berry]

then ur doing something wrong

[gilded scaffold]

probably hinging and butt winking a

[teal hedge]

I get gnarly spine erector pumps

[gilded scaffold]

a bit

[fickle berry]

but winking is fine

[ruby temple]

"survival" but then I queue against a survival and they put my asshole in from halfway across the map everytime

[teal hedge]

Always been an issue

[fickle berry]

its more about the hinge and how the bar is set in correlation to ur heels

[dense herald]

Survival is op and theyre getting buffed also

[fickle berry]

depends on ur femur

[teal hedge]

I'm big and I have knock knees, so form is a little goofy

[dense herald]

20% explos8ve shot buff n it already hits for 100k

[gilded scaffold]

well that, but you gotta film yourself and check your bar path homie

if its not middle of your foot all the way down and up

you gotta work on your form

[teal hedge]

Yeah

But back doesn't hurt

And deadlifts make lower back feel the same

[gilded scaffold]

you said lower back

[fickle berry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av3LO2GwpAk&t=1s @teal hedge

[teal hedge]

Just like a knot in my lowrr back

[fickle berry]

yeah squats shouldnt feel like a knot

[gilded scaffold]

need to re-hijack the convo for a sec, what is stat prio for arms in pvp now with new changes tomorrow?

[fickle berry]

neither should deadlifts

u should never feel literally pained after exercises

[dense herald]

Maybe u should try smith machone n see if it still hurts but u lose stability and core demand with smith machine(i mean try it to see if ur form is whats causing u pain)

[fickle berry]

like, soreness from the muscle activating is fine
but literally ur muscles feeling knotted/in pain is often an indicator ur doing something wrong

[fickle berry]

trust me the stability u lose isnt a big thing lol

if anything for pure muscle hypertrophy machines are often superior

[gilded scaffold]

but mah stabalizers

lol

[fickle berry]

muh stabilizator 3000s

bruh i did smith machine squats the other day

[teal hedge]

Doing powerbuilding

[fickle berry]

tilted my knees forward for some nice knee flexion

GYATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

humbled me

fast

[teal hedge]

Heavy squats, benches and deadlifys

[dense herald]

Yea but its less "athletic"

[fickle berry]

?? but if hes doing powerbuilding athleticism is irrelevant

[dense herald]

Like its good for building muscle but without smith machine is better i heard

[fickle berry]

its not "better", its just different

[teal hedge]

Otherwise it's just hypertrophy

[fickle berry]

ur working similar muscle groups differently

[teal hedge]

Oh, and I try to do heavy strict presses, as well.

[dense herald]

Maybe ive been watching too much mario rios

[fickle berry]

smith machine lets u focus more on the leg because ur taking ur stabilizors out of the equation

???

BRO

do not watch him lmao

wtf

hes notoriously a dumbass

[dense herald]

He do be making a point

[fickle berry]

ive never seen a single video of him

[dense herald]

With smith machines being less athletic

[fickle berry]

saying something intelligent

no, theyre not

define athleticism

squats are NOT athletic

[dense herald]

But ppl only workout for girls n not to he fat

[dense herald]

Higher performance

[fickle berry]

have u seen how powerlifters look?

theyre unathletic AS SHIT

thats not athleticism

[dense herald]

Yeah but they fat af

[teal hedge]

Oh, also, another struggle

[fickle berry]

squats are good for powerlifting because theyre a huge compound movement

[dense herald]

They focus only on strengthh

[fickle berry]

so u literally force ur entire body to get stronger thru that

[dense herald]

N r on steroids

[fickle berry]

it has nothing to do with athleticism

im saying powerlifters are horribly unathletic, not that theyre fat or on roids

[frank knoll]

Run, and do calisthenics you’ll look aesthetic af

[fickle berry]

^

and be athletic

[teal hedge]

Hip thrusts activate my hamstrings

[frank knoll]

Honestly cardio is the most alpha thing

[fickle berry]

the physical qualities that are characteristic of athletes, such as strength, fitness, and agility.

[teal hedge]

Hate cardio

[frank knoll]

Hard cardio

[fickle berry]

athleticism

[dense herald]

I cant do cardio

Its like

So boring

[fickle berry]

powerlifters arent fit or agile

[teal hedge]

Pretty big and I have stomach issues, so I can't do it.

[fickle berry]

squats dont increase any of that

[dense herald]

The boredom catches me b4 the exhaustion

[fickle berry]

squats are pure power

the result of pure power is hypertrophy

[frank knoll]

Certain People shit on cardio and cope that it’s not effective because it’s hurts

[fickle berry]

@teal hedge if ur going for powerbuilding do u have a program?

[frank knoll]

Like after a hard tempo run, I feel more badass than I would after doing 5x5 on squats or whatever

[teal hedge]

Getting resolved for a hereditary gut disease 😭 can't do it

[fickle berry]

bruh i do 60 min on a bike on the gym and i be fuckin swampy

[sage raptor]

whats the best way to knock rust off a spec? I'm doing so grody rn

[teal hedge]

Yeah, lower/upper 4 times a week

[fickle berry]

watching fury vids on ytube

[dense herald]

60MIN????

[teal hedge]

Had to tap out last week, sadly.

[fickle berry]

on a cardio day yeah

[teal hedge]

But we back

[fickle berry]

upper lower 4x is fine but whats the PROGRAM

[dense herald]

On those bikes that create force back and its harder and harder the more u pedal??

[fickle berry]

no wtf

just bike

[teal hedge]

Nicked Jeff Nippards 9 week programme

Can send you a screenie

[fickle berry]

solid

jeff nipple is good

[teal hedge]

Too short imo

[dense herald]

Oh ok

[fickle berry]

this shit is my jam bro

best cardio machine in the game

60 mins on good intensity

u die but u vibin

[dense herald]

I cant do cardio

[frank knoll]

I run

[teal hedge]

How the fuck do I do hip thruata

[fickle berry]

unironc cardio hack

[dense herald]

U guys r chads

[gilded scaffold]

friends? prio for arms stats?

[teal hedge]

I get hamstring cramps

[frank knoll]

Saturday I did warmup, then a fast mile, then slow mile then fast mile then slow mile

[fickle berry]

4.5kmph 10/15% incline walk on treadmill

brother u will thank me later

biggest trick in the game

inclines are GOATED

[dense herald]

U gotta use ur hips to life the bar up not ur hamstrings

[fickle berry]

ppl be sleepy on em

[teal hedge]

Hastr>vers>mast>crit

[gilded scaffold]

just take peds and drink 4 litres of water a day man you'll get yolked in 3 months

ty gal

[fickle berry]

tru

[teal hedge]

How the fuck

[fickle berry]

gal i dont hip thrust

so no clue

but yeah

[wheat jay]

Like you fucking

[fickle berry]

u gotta get a 90 degree

[teal hedge]

I need stronger glutea

[fickle berry]

fuck the bar bro

get a 90 degree angle keep ur back straight

squeeze them cheeks at the top

hold 2-3s

[gilded scaffold]

just learn how to do good mornings and the rest of your leg workouts will be ez mode

trust me

[wheat jay]

Push it like its a 10/10 hottie

[fickle berry]

good mornings good too

[dense herald]

True hahaha

[fickle berry]

my gf can hip thrust me

https://tenor.com/view/nice-click-nice-man-guy-gif-21933845

[frank knoll]

Yesterday
fast Mile
then 10 minutes emom pull ups, start at 2 and increase by 2 every minute (ends up being like 110 pulls ups in 10 mins)
the same for push ups but 15 mins then abs
then another fast mile

[dense herald]

Like fck

[candid citrus]

welp ive seen it all now: skyhold at the gym lol hey Richman what do you consider a "fast mile" ?

[teal hedge]

Might be how I position my back tbh

[dense herald]

Thats how

[teal hedge]

Got a long upper body

And am 6'4

[frank knoll]

Tomorrow emom 10 burpees for 30 mins

[dense herald]

Bro my back my be fcked cuz my upper body is alot smaller compared to legs

[candid citrus]

long upper body perfect for deadlifts and squats

[teal hedge]

No way

I can't reach the bar

[wheat jay]

She pegging you?

Sheeeeeesh

[fickle berry]

naw mayne

she just big bruh

she built diff

[candid citrus]

sure you dont lift the bar as far. like a short armed guy bench pressing. same thing

[wheat jay]

Its alright, we don't judge

[fickle berry]

"big"
1.62m

she got a wide back i fuck with it

we doritos

[teal hedge]

Fuck it I'll leg press instead

[fickle berry]

leg press full ROM crushes me bruh

got one of them angled leg press machines at the gym

bruh i go ass to grass

[candid citrus]

RICHMAN what do you consider a fast mile? im curious

[frank knoll]

I quit powerlifting, got on this 5 day a week running an calisthenics thing. I went from being kinda fat to looking like a Bronze Age bodybuilder

[fickle berry]

dont sleep on these

[teal hedge]

Trying to bank on the whole being fat thing

Am 155 kg 194 cm

[fickle berry]

cut is about to be insane

[candid citrus]

ok mr bronze aged bodybuilder what do you consider a fast mile?

[teal hedge]

Actually on bulk rn

[frank knoll]

For training like 7min 15 .
If I am trying to max out my mile I could probably do like a 6:45

[teal hedge]

But not gaining weight

[dense herald]

Guys

This is a pvp channel

Whyd we change the subject

[frank knoll]

If I wanted to puke at the end like 6:30

[wheat jay]

Wrong

This is a lifting channel

[teal hedge]

Warrior mains

[wheat jay]

Always has been

[dense herald]

What kind of server is this bro it doesnr have the kekw emote

[wheat jay]

Wow pvp is the offtopic

[teal hedge]

Fax

[candid citrus]

ok i was kinda curious because i ran in college.

[dense herald]

True all warruors lift

[kind sentinel]

Lifting is a part of pvp, you can’t carry games if you can’t carry gains

[wheat jay]

True

[dense herald]

Every since i started going to gym ny rating has been jncresing

[frank knoll]

I am trying to get a sub 20 5k @candid citrus

[teal hedge]

I was thinking I get into some kind of sport, but don't know which

[candid citrus]

fast walk is 12 minute miles and ive seen people "jogging" going slower than that

[teal hedge]

Judo was fun

[fickle berry]

how does warr discord

NOT have

lifting channel

KEK

[kind sentinel]

This is the lifting channel

[dense herald]

True

Pve warriors dont lift tho

Well some do

[teal hedge]

My favourite lift is the bench

[candid citrus]

sub 20 5 K would be legit. hit me up if you want any suggestions. my best 5k is 16:20 but its been awhile since i ran that lol

[kind sentinel]

Go look at the arms pve channel rn they are sad he that the buffs were only for pvp

[teal hedge]

Started at 40 kg 4x10 in april (got tendonitis)

[dense herald]

Kek

[teal hedge]

And now I do 70 kg x 4

[fickle berry]

bouta be Cutting edge soon

keep ya mouth clean BOYYYYY

ait sleepy time

gn

[teal hedge]

Cutting would gut me

[wheat jay]

PogU

I had one in bfa

[open glacier]

Arms
Deep Wounds damage is no longer reduced in PvP combat (was 28% reduced).
Mortal Strike damage increased by 35% in PvP combat (was 10%).
Bladestorm damage increased by 70% in PvP combat (was 40%).
Fatal Mark may stack up to a maximum of 5 times in PvP combat (was 8 times).
Execute damage increased by 15% in PvP combat.

😮

[teal hedge]

Yeah, just like that we're top tier again

[dense herald]

I said some do

Gigachads do

https://youtube.com/shorts/q1Z5UW6AGzk?feature=share

[teal hedge]

Frosty, which lifts you like?

[fickle berry]

U guys really gotta unwatch Mario

Martin whatever

Super mario rios

[teal hedge]

I hate most gym content

[fickle berry]

There's 3 gymfluencers i follow for actual advice

[teal hedge]

Many people with issues regarding narcicism

Jeff Nippard, RPstrength

Sam Sulek is entertaining

[fickle berry]

Sam sulek is prime example of do as I say not as I do

The guy preaches good things

But doing what he does will absolutely never work for anyone else

He is genetically a fucking demon, he's clearly blasting hella gear

But he's level headed and just lives for what he enjoys

[teal hedge]

He's so gooped up it's insane, but he's also very passionate, which I like

[fickle berry]

Yes but his habits are garbo

So following him for motivation or inspiration is fine
But to replicate him is to be a degenerate

[teal hedge]

Yeah

[fickle berry]

God I need to get baxk in the gym

I lost motivation and discipline

[teal hedge]

Besides, doing PEDs at 19 seems like a very bad idea

[fickle berry]

I went from 6 pack to love handles

Sadge

[teal hedge]

Nothing wrong with love handles

[fickle berry]

I also lost muscle so

Defo wrong

Gym tomorrow I s2g

Gonna full body this bitch

[teal hedge]

Never had a sixpack, also have lots of scars on stomach and back 😎

[fickle berry]

💀

I could have done that in 60 mins

I was doom scrolling

[teal hedge]

Oy vey

You also doing jeff?

[candid citrus]

all the woulda coulda shouldas instead of playing world of warcraft lol

[teal hedge]

I actually have less time on WoW than I expected

[frank knoll]

True

[teal hedge]

Played loads back in legion, or at least that's what I though

[candid citrus]

i have enough to buy a ferarri working at 10 an hour lol

[teal hedge]

Oy vey

[candid citrus]

im just sooo glad this game wasnt around in my teens or 20's

[teal hedge]

I think I have around 200-300 hours total

How long ago was legion?

2016?

[candid citrus]

sounds about right

[teal hedge]

I was 12 😭

[frank knoll]

I’m 30 and WoW has been around since I was a small child, how old are you?

[teal hedge]

I'm slightly older than WoW

[frank knoll]

Not you the other guy

[teal hedge]

And I got to vote in an election last year

Oh

[candid citrus]

alot older, a much younger GF got me playing this game. and its been my crack cocaine for last 12 years

but the stuff about running is legit. 4:36 miler in HS and i ran in college as well

[frank knoll]

Yeah 4:36 is some high level stuff

[teal hedge]

I imagine the average wow player is in their thirtiea

Would make sense

[frank knoll]

I’m at a point where I play like an hour a night a couple nights a week

[candid citrus]

this late in expac that is all u need to do to stay current.

[teal hedge]

Damn, if I were to get a job I'd be left with about 6-8 hours of free time

[candid citrus]

ikr? i used to work but it kept cutting into Wow so had to give it up

[teal hedge]

I still haven't found a job

[candid citrus]

oh yeah u r young i forgot. well put out applications and then go back to playing wow.

[teal hedge]

That's the plan

[candid citrus]

then you are doing what you can id say

[teal hedge]

Applied for a lot of places, but only gotten 1 interview thus far

[candid citrus]

another suggestion might be to take soem classes at your local junior college. it might spark soem interest in soomething you had not thought of before. and more education rarely hurts

<teacher at one time in a galaxie far far away.

[teal hedge]

Yeah, I actually got into pharmacology, but I had to take a little break from education

Was eating me up a little

[candid citrus]

is into pharmacology code for growing pot?

lol

[teal hedge]

I wish

No, the full 5 year programme

I got accepted

But I put it off until next year or maybe even spring.

[candid citrus]

ok well at least you are smart enough to get into a program like that, kudos to u

[teal hedge]

Eh, I guess

[stable drift]

Dang thats a huge buff lets go

[unique fox]

Love seeing these nerds on reddit cry about every war buff

Time 2 farm

[teal hedge]

Redditors are actually the worst

[lean burrow]

"you must be fun at parties"

[teal hedge]

There are more circlejerks than actual subreddits

[glass orchid]

oh shiiet we're back

and the changelog is ass as usual

why would you keep both the numbers in there

[teal hedge]

They're a small indie company

Removing like two lines of text would ruin them

[glass orchid]

watch people complain that bladestorm got buffed by 50%

and mortal strike 40%

i wonder if that deep wounds buff

marks mastery definitive better

especially now that everyones gonna be running short bladestorm and spreading deep wounds everywhere

[teal hedge]

Might actually be the case

Otherwise stacking more haste might be an alternative

To scale better with skullsplitter

But that's just theoretical

[glass orchid]

might be a 20% haste rest to mastery thing

will test it out tomrorow

stoked i dont have to play fury

[teal hedge]

You never had to in the first place 😔

[sharp meteor]

Finally playable again.

[glass orchid]

if it wernt for these buffs i think fury was definitively better

after the CS and Avatar changes

[boreal veldt]

Is that a nerf to fatal mark or is just consolidating the damage from 8 to 5 stacks

[teal hedge]

Pretty sure it's just a nerf

[boreal veldt]

Blessn't

[teal hedge]

But the other changes are good enough to offset that nerf to the point where arms has became a better spec.

[glass orchid]

now comes the real question

[boreal veldt]

I'm big hype for Deep Wounds and bigger MS

[glass orchid]

skillsplitter or fueled by violence + execute at 35%

[teal hedge]

Not really sure, I'm thinking unhinged

And blademaster's torment

But we'll see

[boreal veldt]

Thought unhinged was still doodoo

[glass orchid]

i think hurricane becomes the default build

[teal hedge]

Look at the changes

Unhinged did get worsened by the crit nerf, but it was never bad

SKS was also very op :P

[glass orchid]

fueled by violence might heal as much as ignore pain does

[boreal veldt]

Oh they nerfed Unhinged a while back, they reduced the damage the MS's that get thrown out from the bladestorm

[scarlet flame]

it is

[scarlet flame]

unhinged ms hits for 60% damage

[boreal veldt]

[scarlet flame]

so non crit 40k ms hits for 25k

[glass orchid]

hurricane is just better than unhinged at this point

gives you movespeed so your hardest hitting ability can have more updtime

[teal hedge]

I get that from being a worgen 😎

[scarlet flame]

cringe

also hurricane just bad into anything you can't get full bs on

hurricane is very good into melee

[teal hedge]

So what are you planning to do?

[scarlet flame]

i pick hurricane into what its good into then ep when its not

[boreal veldt]

hate that it cant be canceled

feels awkward

[scarlet flame]

if you're vs melee cleave you dont care to cancel it

if you're vs melee and caster then its up to you to use it in the right situation

if you pick it vs 2 casters i can't help you there

[teal hedge]

What's ep?

[boreal veldt]

i got zugzug brain

[scarlet flame]

execute buffs ms

[teal hedge]

Ah

The precision one

[scarlet flame]

other capstone yeah

it gives you buffed MS on sharpen when you want it

instead of throwing it out into anyone at random

[honest sundial]

Fuck warriors!!

[boreal veldt]

[unique fox]

I dunno not being able to cancel bladestorm might be troll since you wont be able to execute or do any surprise CC