He’s not, but his editor he barely pays probably is 
#pvp
mild thunder
sage raptor
Lololol
mild thunder
Poor lil socialist millionaire can’t afford to pay his editor a living wage
sage raptor
Sitting on the toilet going lololololol
sage raptor
Poor lil socialist millionaire can’t afford to pay his editor a living wage
Dood that's just like the real thing >.>
violet fossil
that is the real thing
sage raptor
That's the joke shit lips
teal hedge
What
sage raptor
Speaking of shit
teal hedge
Well, it depends
mild thunder
Yea shitlips
teal hedge
If we are to discuss the actual application of marxism, the state would be next to non-existant
sage raptor
I'd rather harass streamers
teal hedge
In cases where communism has been applied, this has not happened, though.
mild thunder
If we are to discuss the actual application of marxism, the state would be next ...
That would be great if most socialists actually read Marx and/or knew anything of the original ideas of communism
They don’t
sage raptor
Speaking of socialism
mild thunder
And actually advocating for any real-world anarchism is cringe and childish
teal hedge
Actual communism is more closely knit with anarchism than it is with authoritarianism.
violet fossil
Che Guevara
mild thunder
Institutions are based
sage raptor
My gf is from cuba
violet fossil
I share the same last name lel
mild thunder
My gf is from popo’s mums hometown… you’d never guess who she is
violet fossil
Not related tho
sage raptor
My gf is from popo’s mums hometown… you’d never guess who she is
Uhhhhhhhhh
Is she white?
mild thunder
Her face was last night
sage raptor
Hehe ewwwww
mild thunder
violet fossil
Her face was last night
Dead?
mild thunder
That’s how I like ‘em
violet fossil
hot
sage raptor
Ghost girls are hot. Wouldn't mind some incorporeal ghostussy
mild thunder
Nah, cold and clammy
sage raptor
When you go down MLK Jr boulevard.
violet fossil
When you go down MLK Jr boulevard.
a mlk jr boulevard
sage raptor
You live on one?
teal hedge
We have some streets named after our realest politician.
Olof Palme
There's like one in every bigger city
mild thunder
We have a lot of streets named after Shakespeare characters
Cringe af
I’ve never cared for Shakespeare outside of Much Ado
sage raptor
We have roads here named after the families that live on them
mild thunder
We had a PM that went missing at the beach
violet fossil
You live on one?
nah
@sage raptor although given the recent circumstances it feels like it
languid canopy
what's our answer to WW Monk's go/serenity? Is it fear + disarm?
scarlet barn
Does disarm now affect anything in monk's kit besides fists?
sharp meteor
what's our answer to WW Monk's go/serenity? Is it fear + disarm?
Disarm doesn't really do anything except stop parry.
Fear/stun is usually best bet.
Parry is also good into it.
sharp meteor
Uhhh, it feels like there's too much good stuff at the bottom of the tree.
if people gonna sit in it then it's okay
frank knoll
Didn’t it get buffed by alot in PvP
sharp meteor
30%, I think?
It's still pretty slow.
Big fan of ravy on prot, though, as you already have a free/flex point and it can do like 5-10% of your damage into teams that sit in it, like if you're playing with a dk or sp into double melee.
frank knoll
When I used to do RBGs seriously we would play a team that used a Prot warrior tank and he would use ravager on node maps
Like to keep a rogue from capping or something
hot solstice
teal hedge
Why does everything need a tier list
sharp meteor
Becasue it's a nice way of formatting your thoughts and they're popular.
teal hedge
I think it's awful
Feels like my brain rots a little more every time I see one of thyese
sharp meteor
Also weak Mage hands crafted that list because they're somehow at the bottom
violet fossil
accurate
hot solstice
Why does everything need a tier list
Cause Supatease needs content
green anchor
copium list
frank knoll
Why is Demo not S+ tier
And Outlaw on the same level as UHDK
sharp meteor
Why is Demo not S+ tier
And Outlaw on the same level as UHDK
Hmm. I actually haven't seen a Demo in a minute.
Will probably see uptick in destros on Tuesday 
undone pumice
you should kidney shot yourself now
fallen estuary
YOU SHOULD STORMBOLT YOURSELF
NOW
@sharp meteor
im actually fucking insane
my methods actually working REALLY good
sharp meteor
<@129440991294783488>
So good.
I queue any char and I get mage/aug lobby I can't escape it
fallen estuary
😢 i salute you for taking my mage lobbies 🫡
sharp meteor
Wondering if I queue either high warr or just afk on mmr for another month or two
north thicket
Fox, Dab, how effective is Immovable object paired with Def aegis
This would be a root break backed in the shield wall but no Sonic boom but rather Thunderous words mb
fallen estuary
you could use it with impenetrable wall for some good bursts
but i would highly not use that since defensives will make you a HUGE target
you take 70% more damage in pvp btw
but your burst will always line up with eachother every 1 min so its not worth taking
north thicket
Hmm I was thinking of the other choice in the node, Defender's aegis
Do you use Shockwave boom only within Avatar with Unstoppable force
Or you are tempted to use it outside of it if all enemies line up well to be stunned
fallen estuary
o shit yea its def aegis myb
yea dont rock avatar shield wall
if they see you pop shield wall they will 100% go you
north thicket
Why?
fallen estuary
0 defensives is really bad to have and shield wall for a warrior is basically a trinket
its the same thing as a dbts, once its down its train city
you cna only spam ignore pain as much as possible untill your healer gets cced and you get bursted on
i rock 2 walls during caster lobbies only
i focus more into thorns when in melee lobbies sinec itll deter them alot more
Melee lobby
caster lobby
north thicket
Oh gotcha, thanks!
fallen estuary
i mean you COULD go the avatar Shield wall build but it makes you a hueg target when you are done with em
i dont rock it since i align my burst at the right moment for the most amount of damage to pop
fallen estuary
at start when i burst i align it but whenever its up in required situations i use it for pressure
but the goal is to keep last stand on standby for your burst to reset
you get 100% of the effect during your burst
remember teir set does work wonders with avatar and demo shout with your oppressor
the after effect is insane as well
i ususally pop avatar AFTER the last stand is done
since the landslide damage isnt decreased in pvp from my experiments
it does like 50k some slams without mods
north thicket
Nice
So you initiation would be Last stand, in the first 10-12 seconds of the game
fallen estuary
you gotta watch your teammate first
north thicket
then Demo+Avatar+Roar+Boom
fallen estuary
i recommend the first 5 and if they havent wasted cds you pop last stand
and after the window around 2 sec before pop avatar for GCD to reset with demo and then initiate shield charge into shockwave then roar - shield slams
ravager if in close space or you have them rooted
Root specs op for ravager btw
north thicket
Do you specifically watch root dr?
north thicket
:)))
fallen estuary
but to keep someone with atleast 8 seconds with root spec into ravager is pretty powerful
rav hits for 40k per tick btw
and with avatar its like 50
north thicket
remember teir set does work wonders with avatar and demo shout with your oppress...
Do you ever switch out of Opressor/Morale/Thunderstruck
fallen estuary
morale is 100% dont change
thats legit the only thing keeping your team alive
i usually rock bodyguard in certain comps
but op's usually the goto
root specs for pesky annoying fucking casters that deserve nothing but utter pain
north thicket
Bodyguard seems sketchy, there ain't really much physical dmg left in the game besides Warr, WW, MM and Outlaw or am I wrong
It falls off easily
But I saw some builds and people are running it
One more question
About Imp Heroic Throw and Disrupting shout
And their usefulness
Do they make a difference? Disrupting could be a game-changer I guess but the radius seems pretty small
fallen estuary
dayum dk left last match LMFAO
but got muh mmr n sheeit
heroic and disrupt is for casters ye
frank knoll
Hmm. I actually haven't seen a Demo in a minute.
Just did a shuffle with one, he didn’t do any damage and went 1/5
sharp meteor
About Imp Heroic Throw and Disrupting shout
Disrupting is great.
Heroic throw > the alternative
sharp meteor
Okay, remember what stats are good, or the ones you like
then look at the stats on the gear and the alternatives
frank knoll
Yeah just need mastery then some haste
midnight cradle
Avatar increases damage by 15% in PvP (was 20%). Warbreaker and Colossus Smash increase damage taken by the target by 20% in PvP (was 30%). yuck!
worthy fern
@fallen estuary jsut watched you on absterge stream
worthy fern
Yea he’s the dh I think in that lobby
fallen estuary
LOL
worthy fern
Check out Big pvp. Order !factor #ad !HCdeath !socials https://www.twitch.tv/absterge
fallen estuary
he was behind the pillar and all i did was slow tf root spec him LOL
yea
druid died behind the pillar
dense herald
What is he talking bout they shpuld bring back condemn+ execute charge without cd
Revert the nerfs to avatar and colossus smash
Nerf the dmg of overpower and buff ms damage
Blizz should make me ceo of pvp
frank knoll
@fallen estuary do you play sudden death
fallen estuary
ye
teal hedge
Wait, you play prot?
fallen estuary
Dont worry about the damage lunk
frank knoll
I’m a fury main but I play it to mess around in BGs sometimes when I’m trying to get my daily win
fallen estuary
Untill you que youll instantly need to learn the priority of prot
Its a huge control game you gotta play to book a win
north thicket
https://clips.twitch.tv/HungryEnthusiasticMinkKappaPride-wstuL2Q4RULuQF3q
Was watching your stream yesterday.
Correct me if I am wrong but you mentioned that war feels bad into holy paladins because of their high armour - Sanctified plates I guess...
Is a shadow Condemn or any form of ArP too much to ask nowadays?
Feels super-weird since the majority of the other classes even many melees seem not to really care about armour.
frank knoll
Don’t you just intervene, body guard people and stun
Then do damage when you have CDs
sage raptor
You are all so wrong
fallen estuary
Im talking about prot not arms
north thicket
Something that goes through BoPs would be welcome too. Condemn, Like Roar used to be fire (or physical with arp?), Spear arcane.
Unsure what problem exactly the Necro banner solves nowadays. But it would be welcome I guess.
glass orchid
the pvp talent for demolition should make shattering throw instant cast
if MD is pretty much instant why cant shattering throw
north thicket
Good logic, good question
I could follow-up
If MD is okay for priests to have why was Mass SR not okay for warriors to have
If even from PvE perspective only
wheat jay
Something that goes through BoPs would be welcome too. Condemn, Like Roar used t...
Condemn was shadow, and banner would only give arms more burst
Which is apparently what people want now for arms
north thicket
Yes but isn't trading Roar for Banner like trading a burst for a burst? (omitting details that they function differently)
elfin surge
Was watching your stream yesterday.
Correct me if I am wrong but you mentioned ...
Yeah we are the last class that deals with armor
i believe outlaw has a form of armor pen?
north thicket
Rogues still have Find Weakness from what I see, Outlaw also has access to Sepsis but unsure if they play it actually
wheat jay
There's also hunter that's doing mostly physical
delicate parrot
ruby temple
love checking drustvar to see top arms gear and it's always fury gear -_-
glass orchid
i believe outlaw has a form of armor pen?
the way things are going arms is just gonna be all sustained bleed damage with 0 burst soon
ivory granite
is it just me or did i just make a spark of shadowflame and it gave me 8 randomly on my alt
mild thunder
Yeah we are the last class that deals with armor
ww, hunter (non-sv), outlaw all deal with armor about as much as us... outlaw has Find Weakness but that's only a 40% armor bypass during dance
feral, sv, dh all deal partially with armor
honest sundial
nerf warrior buff mage
elfin surge
ww, hunter (non-sv), outlaw all deal with armor about as much as us... outlaw ha...
ww has a lot of magic damage tho
mild thunder
ww has a lot of magic damage tho
not really, it's just xuen that deals meaningful magic dmg
elfin surge
sotwl
mild thunder
FLS is just there to buff your actual dmg
elfin surge
sotwl is magic
elfin surge
its magic
elfin surge
then tell me why u can ground it
mild thunder
are you sure you can?
elfin surge
bro links the artifact ability
mild thunder
honest sundial
elfin surge
mild thunder
thick reef
Poor American woken up by the mayor of Perth
honest sundial
lmao
charred onyx
kinda scared of the dh buffs coming
fickle forge
ww, hunter (non-sv), outlaw all deal with armor about as much as us... outlaw ha...
Tbf, they have the option of going tiger eye
mild thunder
Tbf, they have the option of going tiger eye
it's virtually never possible to tho
if you're versing plate-wearers disarm is virtually always better value
opal acorn
So guys, can someone explain to me the reason behind the arms changes
scarlet flame
more sustained damage
idk whats hard about that to understand
cds got nerfed and ms got buffed
moving damage from your CD windows to outside CD windows
opal acorn
But nerfing the dmg from cds is nerfing the overall dmg. So overall this is a nerf, no?
scarlet flame
its not nerfing the overall damage
id argue you'd do more overall damage because ms got a pretty big buff
fickle forge
if you're versing plate-wearers disarm is virtually always better value
Sure good for killing Hpalas though, bypass BoP
scarlet flame
the CS one is way more impactful than the avatar nerf
5% off that is honestly w.e you wont notice it
the CS one sucks kinda hard tho wont lie
opal acorn
It's ms dmg vs all dmg u do during avatar and cs. Meaning op, execute, aa. 🤷🏼♀️
scarlet flame
you are probably never killing people in your avatar windows
so it doesn't matter
and overall your MS is going to hit basically the same amount in cds
you press MS way more often outside of cds than inside
so now outside of cds your ms is just going to do more damage
scarlet flame
they are buffing you outside of cds
and buffing your playstyle already
which is sustained damp class
honestly the changes are probably going to feel pretty good in damp but no one wants the class to be that
mild thunder
you'll do slightly less overall burst, but burst isnt as important as it used to be
scarlet flame
your MS will do the same damage as it currently does
in cds
outside your ms shouldn't hit 30k
because it gets a 25% buff now
mild thunder
honestly the changes are probably going to feel pretty good in damp but no one w...
no one wants the class to be that because that's what the class is... during SL all everyone bitched and moaned about was wanting your sustainted dmg to matter
now it does, and people think it's the end of the fucking world
scarlet flame
no one wants the class to be that because that's what the class is... during SL ...
i didnt play SL so that doesn't apply to me
i dont like that avatar and BS are just root breaks and dont really matter and dont require CDS to stop like basically every other class
cs is even more irrelevant
mild thunder
they do tho, most classes arent just face-tanking avatar+cs without trading anything
im perfectly happy with them buffing CS down to 15%, assuming they continue to buff our dmg to compensate
scarlet flame
well heres the argument you have to undertake now
do you balance based on 3s
or SS
mild thunder
30% is a crazy modifier, i'd rather that damage be shifted to be more accessible more often
scarlet flame
im perfectly happy with them buffing CS down to 15%, assuming they continue to b...
literally just remove CS and add it to your base damage then
lower its CDS
scarlet flame
make it not affected by am
scarlet flame
so 15% damage on w.e CD
mild thunder
and your other buttons would be buffed to compensate
scarlet flame
its basically a worse version of sharpen
mild thunder
only being able to kill during CDs is boring af
scarlet flame
having your cds not change your damage that much is also boring af
mild thunder
its basically a worse version of sharpen
how? it buffs all your dmg, as well as giving you a haste and potentially crit buff
scarlet flame
sharpen gives you more damage by making healing less effective
mild thunder
CS pre-nerf gives you 30% dmg done, 10-20% haste and (if running wlt) 20% crit chance
that's a pretty stacked button
scarlet flame
yup felt really great to use it
had to be respected
and if it wasn't you could kill someone with its window
mild thunder
idk, i picked my arms back up this week and it hasnt felt anywhere near as bad as people here make it out to be
is it doing ww levels of dmg? no, but is it still tanky af and dealing decent dmg? yes
scarlet flame
played both my arms and WW in 2s and they felt pretty close
but ww is pretty much better in every way
opal acorn
In 2s tho
scarlet flame
its tanker, it has better self healing, more damage, better movement
scarlet flame
so i want the class i want to play to be a better choice than another?
mild thunder
or make them distinct from each other so it doesnt feel like they're in constant contention to beat each other out at their own niche
arms should never deal ww damage
ww should never be as durable as arms
arms should never be as mobile as ww
ww should never have arms' defensive utility
etc.
scarlet flame
i mean yeah make arms do something and make ww do something instead of different color of the same class
but as it stands blizzard doesn't want that
so
mild thunder
idk, seems like that's how blizz has been leaning
scarlet flame
well they are making ww do sustained damage, unholy sustained damage, frost sustained damage
scarlet flame
casters seem to be more burst and melee seem sustained
mild thunder
are they? outside of fire, most casters are more focused on sustain-dmg
and frost ig
mild thunder
destro, boomkin definitely have an emphasis on sustain-dmg insofar as they always have dmg, it's about being able to get it out
scarlet flame
i should say leans more
sorta how WW leans more towards sustained but their CD burst is still high
mild thunder
destro is "bursty" because sometimes they can cast a lot, sometimes they cant
that's kinda how casters have to be in some ways
scarlet flame
im not arguing that they shouldn't or should
im just saying thats how it looks blizzard is taking it
casters are about their windows of burst/casting and melee is towards their sustained damage
mild thunder
idk i dont think they're trying to really make casters more bursty
boomy was one-tapping, got nerfed
destro hasnt really been meta for a while
frost is cringe, i'll give you that
scarlet flame
yeah boomie has been doing over damage
kinda like how arms was in s1
and it got nerfed
mild thunder
mm is always a niche-oneshot spec that sits at low mmrs and farms shitters
boomy got nerfed hard too
scarlet flame
they're just homogenizing the types of classes
yeah it did get nerfed hard, it was also the most op class at the time
it had no downsides and could do everything
mild thunder
they're just homogenizing the types of classes
not really any more than they do during any other season
scarlet flame
it could CC chain, it could off heal, it could sustain damage, it could one shot burst
the only thing boomie didn't have was a low cd kick
scarlet flame
not really any more than they do during any other season
i wont pretend like i remember every season perfectly so im mainly just talking about DF seasons
mild thunder
i mean, it's mostly a fairly regular season except arms isnt S tier so people are mad
and soloQ steals all our players
scarlet flame
im not mad its not s tier
mild thunder
maybe not you specifically, but i guarantee 99% of these complaints about bad arms design or whatever wouldnt exist if it were S tier
scarlet flame
it honestly feels pretty decent in 2s, i haven't played 3s on it at all outside of ss ()
yeah i wont speak for people who aren't me tho
and you know maybe they're trying to lower the amount of variance in damage for arms
i think the biggest issue i have with arms rn is damage is so wild
you can crit someone with 1 ms for 200k and another for 70k
and it just feels retarded
mild thunder
idk, game is pretty fun atm imo... arenas always feel dangerous, dmg matters, dont get randomly oneshot and feel cheated out of a win, feels like there's always something you can do and time between CDs matters, pacing is good, game-length is solid etc.
literally the only complaint i have is numbers, and that's not really a playerbase issue it's soloQ
mild thunder
you can crit someone with 1 ms for 200k and another for 70k
that's exactly what blizz is trying to smooth out tho
scarlet flame
and you know maybe they're trying to lower the amount of variance in damage for ...
thats why i said this
everyone has opinions formed right when they read something and need time to sit on information to process other ways to interpret it
mild thunder
sit on information? interpret it? process?
that's a lotta fancy words to say "go to my favourite streamer and copy their opinion"
scarlet flame
i dont watch any streamer who plays warrior
mild thunder
im not talking about you, just retard players in general
scarlet flame
well yeah they're retards for a reason
mild thunder
X streamer said Y decision was bad wowowowowowow 
scarlet flame
i will say what mag says about bstance like a month ago was a pretty great idea
mild thunder
no clue what he said
scarlet flame
change bstance from duration to effect
mild thunder
wow streamers are boring as fuck and i never watch any of them
mild thunder
change bstance from duration to effect
elaborate
scarlet flame
change bstance from reducing the duration of cc to reduce the effect of cc
so instead of 70% slow from arcane its like 50% or w.e the numbers could be
scarlet flame
not an op change but one that feels good
it wouldn't work with roots probablyt
maybe it would still reduce the duration of the root but usually you can break roots
and roots are on a cd themselves right
lots of slows can just be spammed
mild thunder
it'd be a fine change, sure
i dont think arms mobility is really an issue, but it'd be cool
id rather they buff other stuff so having less uptime is less cringe tbh
scarlet flame
yeah i wont speak for people who can play way better than me but mobility is pretty rough against some classes
id be fine with anything that smoothes out the uptime
so either make it harder for us to be cucked or make being cucked less punishing
mild thunder
arms just isnt a spec that should expect high uptime on bm, frostmage etc. imo
but that's just an opinion
scarlet flame
i agree that you shouldn't be good into everything, id just wish it felt less retarded
mild thunder
scarlet flame
because atm it feels like it hasn't changed from classic
scarlet flame
yeah but the whole sentence is important
and id be fine if our damage got lower but you couldn't peel us whenever you wanted
mild thunder
better/more meaningful defensives into casters would be nice
scarlet flame
just something to smooth out how it feels into any caster with half a brain
mild thunder
idk, i dont feel like uptime into most casters is that bad, it's really just mage
scarlet flame
casters get gutted in low ratings until like 1700 then they just kite whatever they want
hunters and boomkins are pretty skill based tbh
mild thunder
uptime into lock, boomy, sp all feels pretty good
scarlet flame
mage you need 3 braincells instead of 2
mild thunder
evokers can be cringe
scarlet flame
evo mage are the worst, hunters and boomkins need some help from the team but sp and lock get cucked pretty hard
ive had boomkins that are straight dogshit and can't do anything but ive also had boomkins that are as hard to hit as mages
scarlet flame
arms is good into melee
mild thunder
idk i feel like boomy takes the dick tbh, and hunters struggle depending on the matchup
arms still feels super strong into most other melee imo
scarlet flame
idk i feel like boomy takes the dick tbh, and hunters struggle depending on the ...
honestly if you dont play into what the hunter wants its probably not as bad as sometimes
boomie with any sort of help at all is pretty hard to stay on
i love seeing melee on arms
mild thunder
boomie with any sort of help at all is pretty hard to stay on
boomy also tends to play with a lot of god-tier peel classes
like unholy
mild thunder
which makes it feel far worse, but part of the reason for that is because it cant really peel that great on its own
uhdk just has an inflated toolkit
scarlet flame
i guess i should just learn to accept my class is going to feel worse than anything else in some situations tbh
mild thunder
ams, ibf, aoe chains, 2x grip, 2x deaths advance, lichborne, amz, 2 ranged kicks, 2 ranged stuns, ranged silence, aoe blind, wraith walk on top of strong burst and decent durability
spec is wack
mild thunder
or roll sv and have only one kinda cringe matchup
the only time ive ever felt like im actually struggling to figure out what to do is into uhdk/fw 2s
north thicket
if Arms is great in melees why would WW and rogues and whatever
scarlet flame
idk if i could play hunter and not hate myself irl
scarlet flame
hes not
scarlet flame
if Arms is great in melees why would WW and rogues and whatever
what does this even mean
north thicket
why are they considered a better version of Arms
mild thunder
if Arms is great in melees why would WW and rogues and whatever
scarlet flame
sword, small crossbow, bombs, potions
i wear bear armor and only use my swords
im an arms warrior
mild thunder
wolf armor enthusiast
scarlet flame
nah i just face tank deathmarch
mild thunder
tbf
scarlet flame
and my swords heal me
mild thunder
that game is incredibly fucking easy no matter what you do
scarlet flame
immune to projectiles
mild thunder
it's the biggest downside of the game imo
scarlet flame
yeah dm is kinda easy
some builds are squishy so they die in like 2 hits
but in general its not a challenging game compared to like ds
mild thunder
it gets to the point where combat starts to feel like a chore inbetween the actually fun story and character interactions
scarlet flame
yeah thats accurate
the story mode is great but openworld is kinda repetitive after a while
mild thunder
the best kinda rpg combat for a game like that is ghost of tsushima-style imo
combat is always short and dangerous at any point in the game
kill most things in 2-3 hits, always get killed in 2-3 hits
scarlet flame
i like combat being predictable but punishing
mild thunder
the only thing i dislike about souls-games is how sluggish the combat can feel sometimes
sekiro feels a lot better
scarlet flame
i like it when information is a little easier to come by
ds stuff is to big brain for me
mild thunder
im not the biggest fan of DS games
scarlet flame
i think they're great games for who like them lol
mild thunder
they're kinda overrated, and the fanbases are omega fucking cringe
kind sentinel
I like how monster hunter feels and plays in that vein, fights r pretty long but it feels giga chad to swing the greatsword
mild thunder
they dont think any game is hard compared to souls games lol
i remember getting recommended some elden ring short where a guy was claiming playing elden ring made him a better man
like bruh
it's a game
please find grass
mild thunder
I like how monster hunter feels and plays in that vein, fights r pretty long but...
never played it, but i kinda like the aesthetic
scarlet flame
bro honestly wild hearts was pretty great
i think the combat was fun but it was kinda hard to actually hit what you wanted to
mild thunder
i tried to go and play forbidden west a few weeks ago but got bored super quick
scarlet flame
the combos and shit was really cool
mild thunder
🚫
scarlet flame
i can't think of a single game that made me hate 1 character so much then 180 it half way through
mild thunder
you have to be either physically disabled or a boomer to play turn-based games
i am proudly neither
scarlet flame
you are mentally disabled
kind sentinel
Mhw has these fleeting moment where you can do things that make you feel like a badass, but there is a lot of downtime
scarlet flame
im neither but i like bg3
mild thunder
arent you 26 or something?
scarlet flame
yeah
hot solstice
15 year old kids in the chat
mild thunder
so... a boomer?
kind sentinel
scarlet flame
im not even 30 hello
mild thunder
idk, 25 and 30 are the real tipping points for age
mild thunder
chad arent u like 23 bro
fuck off, im 21
scarlet flame
wtf does that mean
mild thunder
21 and 26 are not the same age
thick reef
ur the same as him if you cant throw a switch kick
sorry brother
perth stays losing yet again
thick reef
you probs live in USA tho
mild thunder
ur the same as him if you cant throw a switch kick
pfft, easyu
scarlet flame
what does that have to do with anything
mild thunder
auschads stay winning
thick reef
yeeep
mild thunder
(not austria )
scarlet flame
you probs live in USA tho
still confused on what this has to do with not having body pain at 26 lmao
scarlet flame
fat retards
mild thunder
least badass australian
mild thunder
https://tenor.com/view/crocodile-dundee-knife-sharpen-honing-waiting-gif-2232245...
this is what me and my friends look like discussing our gameplan in the arena lobby
scarlet flame
scarlet flame
https://tenor.com/view/danger-steveerwin-wooo-gif-14568078
this guy was my childhood i loved watching him
teal hedge
Australia truly is the mad max of countries
thick reef
Not wrong, Alice springs is essentially mad max
mild thunder
Australia truly is the mad max of countries
i mean, yea
it's based in australia
it's just an allegory for australian road rage
also
Fury Road
fucking goated movie
teal hedge
It's like every clip I see of your denizens they're jkust succumbing to heat stroke
mild thunder
teal hedge
See? Your brain has been rotted by the constant exposure to the sun
thick reef
45 degrees is light work here 🙂
teal hedge
Anything over 17 degrees makes me drop dead
teal hedge
Last year we got -17 C during december
teal hedge
I mean, after a while, cold doesn't feel any colder
sage raptor
You're all so wrong
cerulean jay
this guy was my childhood i loved watching him
crocodile loved him too
scarlet flame
You're all so wrong
this the second time you've said this and idk why lol
sage raptor
this the second time you've said this and idk why lol
Says yall are wrong
Doesn't elaborate
Leaves
scarlet flame
seems like you got the problem tbh
sage raptor
Nah
thick reef
Whats up Popo
sage raptor
In debating on playing shuffle or not now that me sleep schedule is messed up
fallen estuary
MONSTUH
opal acorn
Glad stance?
fallen estuary
In debating on playing shuffle or not now that me sleep schedule is messed up
Dawg sleep and when you wake up take like 5 xtra str tylenols
sage raptor
Glad stance?
I honestly thought they'd bring it back with the pvp talent "rework"
fallen estuary
I work 12 hour shifts every day and i go home and swig a glass of whiskey and game on
opal acorn
They brought the fan fav smf instead
thick reef
love to hear it
fallen estuary
Prancing the r1 fields
sage raptor
Yeah. It's also 100+ degrees in the day so I should capitalize my grass touching beforehand
tawny elm
any good wa/addon to help me not missing when queue pop whilst im tabbed out?
lika a really loud sound
sage raptor
I seen one just the other day that played it loud regardless of your sound settings.
tawny elm
sounds perfect
sage raptor
I can't remember the name but it's on curseforge
fallen estuary
Last thing i need is my computer screaming bloody murder whenever i get a que
sage raptor
I wonder if I can change the sound because it's like nails on a chalkboard for me
tawny elm
hmm
"Program that sends you a text when your Solo Shuffle pops in World of Warcraft."
kekw
teal hedge
Doesn't the icon in your taskbar light up if you get a pop?
tawny elm
working
sage raptor
dense herald
https://tenor.com/view/hellscream-garrosh-gif-22929958
No there was another one
This not ut
But on ny other disc account i have it
elfin surge
lean burrow
mud be like
elfin surge
lean burrow
violet fossil
mud be like
what a way to gate keep
charred onyx
they do treat pvp different a lot of the time but with how they are doing things in raids and M+ it is possible they loosen up on the rank requirements
violet fossil
nah it’s fine with the rank requirements but there should be more incentives to participate
violet fossil
with the introduction of skins for dragons they missed the mark
nah for all rated but different stuff
violet fossil
there needs to be incentive for people to play PvP at all lol
violet fossil
Not jusr 3s
violet fossil
who cares about soloQ tho
idk like most people lol
mild thunder
idk, i think most people that play shuffle would rather play 3s, they just wouldnt rather do the lfg grind
sage raptor
There's a million ways to solve it where the worst thing they could do is nothing at all.
mild thunder
^
mild thunder
go harder on inflation earlier in the season, add extra rewards for 1600-2200 in 3s
idk, i think most things about arena are really good atm, i wouldnt fuck too hard with pacing and balance and stuff
violet fossil
idk, i think most people that play shuffle would rather play 3s, they just would...
they prolly would but what’s easier rn to do
and even then solo has major issues
but regardless
PvP is afterthought of an afterthought
of an afterthought
charred onyx
imo it wouldnt make sense for them to keep solo shuffle as rated and then keep all the rewards to 3s though. not sure how they would solve the lfg problem in arenas. at this point solo shuffle is probably gonna stick around and be more popular since its technically a 3v3 style match with none of the lfg
as far as from their viewpoint
teal hedge
They have to incentivise playing a healer
mild thunder
soloQ just doesnt work the way people want it to though... it's really hard for the game to keep the uniqueness that everyone loves about it while catering to a gamemode that demands a different style. you cant have specs that only fill particular niches, you cant have specs that rely more heavily on healers/other dps, you cant have metas that are too punishing etc etc.
sage raptor
I honestly think they should make healers really strong and fun and dps should just have to deal with it.
mild thunder
for shuffle to be good, they actually need to homogenise classes
which would be lame af
charred onyx
as far as solo shuffle goes, i think a solo rbg que is a much cooler idea. i feel like most people dont touch RBGS because its got the same problem as 3v3s but you need to lfg way more people
mild thunder
solo rbg just isnt feasible
thick reef
you will learn and get good playin 3s even 2s abit
mild thunder
queue times would be 2 years
thick reef
ss is just so troll
thick reef
yea dont get me wrong i like being able to just log in and play arenas instead of waitin for mates n shit
teal hedge
And, actually, I feel that guilds are horrible in retail compared to classic
mild thunder
im grinding that 0cr soloQ lifestyle 
teal hedge
Classic was sorta cool, I snagged the username "Saulgoodman" and then I roleplayed as a lawyer
But you can't do that on retail
charred onyx
thats only based on the idea that rated bgs are not popular but regular bgs have been really popular in the past. obviously with shadowlands having diminished the overall player count even more it may be a problem for now
mild thunder
thats only based on the idea that rated bgs are not popular but regular bgs have...
it's not just about popularity
sitting in rbg queues waiting for 3 healers and a tank
would be god fucking awful
teal hedge
Fellas, it would seem I didn't get the job.
mild thunder
and then they'd probably want to balance out having X melee and X ranged, because otherwise you'd be hardcore fucked
teal hedge
Yessir
mild thunder
Fellas, it would seem I didn't get the job.
charred onyx
a lot of games dont balance the matches that far into it
thick reef
didnt get the job and ur a terrorist again...
teal hedge
Or that's what I'm assuming, they told me they'd reach me by the end of the week, but I've gotten nothing
thick reef
fuck sakes angus
mild thunder
a lot of games dont balance the matches that far into it
rbgs are pretty unique in that if they werent balanced to that extent, they would border on unplayable very quickly
charred onyx
they could make it easier and just ban tanks from pvp but they currently dont want to do that
mild thunder
even if you were just looking for the 3x healer 1x tank queues, it would take a whole season
teal hedge
fuck sakes angus
Can't do anything nowadays 😔
mild thunder
banning tanks from rbgs is a cool idea but would be awful
flag carry maps would never end
base sitting maps would be annoyingly chaotic
charred onyx
ya i dont know much about RBG meta. makes it sound like another reason RBG is not super popular
mild thunder
rbgs have just never been as popular as arena
teal hedge
Never touched rbgs
violet fossil
they were getting popular again but I forgot what happened
mild thunder
it's the pvp version of raiding... it's there, and it's fun but why ever play raid over doing m+, the more skill-based, more fun gamemode
teal hedge
Might actually try M+ if I ever get back
charred onyx
raid vs raid pvp is definitely a shittier form of pvp, but the smaller 10 man sized raids in regualr bgs arent too bad. but i guess they are meant for casual play
mild thunder
imo wow just gets less fun the more people you add on after a while
it's easier to coordinate mechanics and make a fun game when you're catering to groups of 3-5 than 20+
thick reef
HAHHA managing 20 people in a mythic raid would be FKD
20 S tier soldiers
if one soldier is ass
gg
mild thunder
yup, but m+ is always super fun because you can play with 4 other people you know are competent and the gameplay is allowed to be more individually demanding/challenging
charred onyx
ive hardly ever raided but i can only imagine if they tried to do a 40 man mythic raid tier
mild thunder
it's so easy to hide in a raid group of 20 people and be a retard
charred onyx
i know 40 man raids havnt been a thing in a long time
thick reef
40 man raids in classic is so fun because everyone thinks they are michael jordan
charred onyx
thats part of why raids are good for wow though. the not so good players can still experience things without it instantly failing. thats why shadowlands pissed people off. they had a lot of raid bosses where one bad player can wipe the raid
mild thunder
anduin fight was fun as fuck
frank knoll
idk, 25 and 30 are the real tipping points for age
30 isn’t even bad I feel and look pretty much the same as I did at 21. Just a lot more responsibility now but I suppose that can happen at any age
teal hedge
Every person within the 25-30 bracket has been an insane person.
frank knoll
Whatyu mean by insane person
frank knoll
Sounds like they’re both edge lords
teal hedge
Eh, the second was just a misguided tankie tbf
But yeah, first dude kept talking about how his bf left him
Kooky person
charred onyx
wait so you just think people between 25 and 30 are crazy because of 2 people lol
violet fossil
Average wow player
teal hedge
I do not congregate with people that are thirty
teal hedge
Yeah I'm not well adapted for older people
violet fossil
I had 60 year old friends when I was 20 lol
teal hedge
Shieet
violet fossil
can’t assume things
teal hedge
Well, yeah
But I don't really do the stuff more older people do
I don't like football and I
prefer liquor over beer
violet fossil
I like listening to people so I love hearing old stories
thick reef
Used to work with a lot of old people like 60 some even 70 lmao
They are funny asf
You’d be suprised
teal hedge
I mean, I've worked with the elderly
teal hedge
Then again: I think it's just how I'
m adjusted
One of the guys I drank with just sat down at some geezers table and got free beer
But other than that, most of us just stick together
mild thunder
agreed
dreamy moat
what the fuck is rotation botting
charred onyx
a bot program that does your rotation probably
dreamy moat
This fucking game man
70k dps non-stop from uhdk
But nerf arms man
yeah fuck arms
tranquil shuttle
frank knoll
Prot does like the same damage as Arms
dreamy moat
I might just bite the bullet and play it for a bit then
Because I'm so fucking over it
Got a build?
dreamy moat
1928>1801 in 3 games
of course I'm willing
especially when I get healers that don't fucking heal
charred onyx
prot warrior doesnt sound as annoying to face as a prot pally or guardian druid
thick reef
Build bra you give fury a go yet?
frank knoll
Yeah Fury cranks
frank knoll
Got a build?
@fallen estuary probably does he’s like 2k+ as Prot
charred onyx
i kinda wish that they made a version of draecthyr that were like the buffed up wingless dragonoids that could play warrior
thick reef
lmao just then
1800mmr
4-2
oath go hard you got this
charred onyx
im still worried about dh getting buffs. they are not a fun melee to deal with when they are meta
but thats probably just me hating on the class because i played a lot in bfa and that 100% dodge on blade dance they had was tilting
limber relic
1928>1801 in 3 games
0-1800 in 4 games xd
500 points a game
was funny
lets see how fast we can get 2400 as fury
40-20 rn as fury
hmm
sharp meteor
im still worried about dh getting buffs. they are not a fun melee to deal with w...
They die randomly without blur.
Will probably be fine.
sharp meteor
Got a build?
BkEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFIEBAAAASSCJSk0SaJJp1QECQiQJJRBAJJ0QSEiARCAAAAAAAQAApoBAC
cerulean jay
how do you play arms in caster lobbys?
just had arcane frost and demo lock
went 2-4
fkn painful
lavish quest
From what I've gathered, you thank Ion that you got 2 rounds and call it a day.
Because I too, have no fookin idea how to play into caster lobbies
fallen estuary
Got a build?
Yea i got a build but its hard af to master tho. With my build and tactic i went like 10 games and won them non stop with it
Went from 1650 to 2140 in one day
Also a salute to kennie and arash for eating all my counter lobbiez
🫡
fallen estuary
Lmao i just realised i worded it like a scam ad LMAO
charred onyx
this 500 rating hunter was put into a match with 1900 players and it was obvious he was out of his mmr. he died atleast 3 times without using turtle
felt bad for the guy
quaint ruin
is everyone playing onslaught atm or?
frank knoll
Yeah onslaught rules
frank knoll
this 500 rating hunter was put into a match with 1900 players and it was obvious...
I played a Aff lock yesterday. He was in a full melee lobby and didn’t have dark pact on his bars
ancient sonnet
Wasn't the Shadowflame embellishment nerfed? Just curious why Magnus would be rocking it
sharp meteor
At last check it was just the enchant that was nerfed.
Also it's just, like, 1% more damage or something.
And the alternatives are comparable or worse.
charred onyx
is aug still just crazy strong
i wanted adragon but im not sure about what i wanna do on it
tribal wedge
Aug IS gonna be hard nerf this reset
teal hedge
Oh fr?
fallen estuary
Man let me get an aug lobby pls. I want to test prot with aug SO bad
Idc if i lose it i want to try it
charred onyx
prot with blistering scales is basically unkillable if for whatever reason a melee goes after him
or i would guess it would be
sharp meteor
prot with blistering scales is basically unkillable if for whatever reason a mel...
Aug crushes cleaves and so does prot
You just sit on the dragon and do 60k dps until the enemy team is dead
if it's aug + caster lobby you lose 40-70 points
charred onyx
ya i always hate facing aug evokers as a fury. it makes sense that casters can kill them easier because now that i think about it, its usually when i have a caster teamate that we can kill the aug
sharp meteor
Yeah, casters are suffering for auggie.
charred onyx
pissed, waited so long for ss and my internet dies
oh god i didnt realize leaving a ss because of lag removes so much rating
thats bullshit
literally yanked 200 rating from me
welp guess im gonna quit pvp for this season
muted surge
green anchor
How did Aug even end up being op... I thought it's meant to be a support spec
ancient sonnet
New classes/specs are typically on the overtuned end
fallen estuary
Youll be back in the morning
charred onyx
maybe
fallen estuary
charred onyx
now i definiely dont wanna go back if theres a spider
teal hedge
Don't interact with @elfin surge he is a known phisher and blackmailer
torpid lintel
Exacute will hit like a truck this reset
But will we spec into exacute talents or nah
teal hedge
We already do, right?
torpid lintel
We already do, right?
As fury we dont fully
torpid lintel
No it’s not
teal hedge
It is
torpid lintel
Check the ladders
teal hedge
I won't
torpid lintel
Stick to arms then it’s worst
teal hedge
I will, it's bettert
It's better in every conceivable way
More utility, a somewhat more interesting rotation, better class-fantasy
Better animations and sfx
Armssweep, literally this easy
torpid lintel
More utility, a *somewhat* more interesting rotation, better class-fantasy
And still worst then fury and check the ladder see what’s higher in ratting gn
teal hedge
If I wanted to go meta, I would go balance, no?
I play arms because it's the best spec in the game.
teal hedge
This guy gets it
torpid lintel
Arms doesn’t die in a swap
U know better then the top players ok
teal hedge
U know better then the top players ok
Yeah, and how much paper do these "top players" stack?
I'm a money engineer
torpid lintel
I'm a money engineer
Money engineer in hardees prob🤣
torpid lintel
I'm a baker I make bread
Ma baker boney m
frank knoll
Ask any of them to respond to any of the points I just made and they’d agree
teal hedge
Ma baker boney m
Such a good song
frank knoll
Fury just does really good damage
Arms has better utility and survivability, it will not be a dead spec after tomorrow
torpid lintel
Such a good song
Ikr
teal hedge
Fury just does really good damage
Arms has better utility and survivability, it...
My man
frank knoll
Like Fury was a meme in PvP for years lol
opal acorn
I thought they buff arms tomorrow
violet fossil
@frank knoll no mo gala?
teal hedge
They buff sustain but nerf burst
elfin surge
teal hedge
Fatal mark will suck
elfin surge
bladestorm?9
teal hedge
But other than that it looks pretty damn good
Time to run unhinged again?
And Blademaster's?
@torpid lintel You were saying?
fallen estuary
prot bros
teal hedge
Do not call them bros
honest sundial
BUFF MAGE
fallen estuary
ok bodytype 1's
hot solstice
bladestorm?9
any thoughts?
fallen estuary
they could still yknow unnerf martial
feral osprey
more prot warriors in solo shuffle monkaW
torpid lintel
They saw my msgs and buffed arms u should thank me guys
fallen estuary
blizzard loves me so they buffed prot along with it ❤️
i see u devs
u thinkin bout me too
torpid lintel
Prot sucks after they removed sword and board
sharp meteor
OH MY LAWDDDDD
torpid lintel
bladestorm?9
Is that change’s enough to beat fury?
random fractal
For sure
torpid lintel
Sword and board💔
sharp meteor
Prot Execute buff 