pvp

[teal hedge]

My fucking cat smelled my cat food

Stupid critter doesn't understand it's mine

[mild thunder]

show head

[scarlet flame]

you did watch it

[mild thunder]

prove no holes

[teal hedge]

^

[scarlet flame]

and you spread his propaganda

[teal hedge]

No hats allowed

We must inspect your skull for chasms

[mild thunder]

all i see are Tanda Ws

[teal hedge]

Tanda popping off

[mild thunder]

literally nothing he said got "disproven" lil bro

[scarlet flame]

i was wrong that no one would be dumb enough to play it in the awc gauntlet

[mild thunder]

it got played in awc = it's overpowered = it's super complex

how does that make sense

[scarlet flame]

how will i ever sleep at night knowing the guy whos the only rogue on the entire planet spouting that outlaw is good played outlaw

[teal hedge]

Oh my god this chat is amazing

Just a bunch of swedish farmers looking for "milfs"

[mild thunder]

only milf i need is your mumma

actually i take that back

i need all the mums

if you have sent a message in this channel, i have bedded your mum

[scarlet flame]

he beat kaskas team

[scarlet flame]

which isn't even that good

[teal hedge]

K

Listen

[mild thunder]

K

[scarlet flame]

what am i coping about

[mild thunder]

Listen to me. I'm your stepdaddy

[teal hedge]

I think it's more of fail of communication on your part

[scarlet flame]

ok bye

idc lol

[mild thunder]

is this supposed to mean your mum is a corpse?

[undone pumice]

yes

[teal hedge]

No it's because you keep mauling me even when I rep da galatards

[undone pumice]

galachad shagged her too hard

[mild thunder]

real

we need a gang colour

[undone pumice]

real af

[mild thunder]

to represent

[undone pumice]

crips bloods and galas

[teal hedge]

Time to get onto the next part

[mild thunder]

we go purple

[teal hedge]

50 grammes worth of protein condensed into a fine paste

[mild thunder]

low-hanging fruit

[teal hedge]

Even got to see my delts moving tonight

Very nice

(first time)

[undone pumice]

he has lifted his arms

(first time)

[teal hedge]

No but like

Got a pump, and I got to see the smaller parts of my delts moving around

[undone pumice]

striations

[teal hedge]

Yeah those

New word

[sage raptor]

Aw man. I missed the awc=good argument

[teal hedge]

You didn't miss a lot lmao

[scarlet flame]

yeah guy came in here having a panic attack because the only rogue on the face of the planet who says outlaw is good played it in the gauntlet against a bottom team and won

[sage raptor]

that guy when he learns they pick counter specs

[ivory granite]

whats better for arms warrior, Tauren or Orc

[gentle depot]

damn i missed that one delusional guy i wanted to be there live

[sage raptor]

tauren

[ivory granite]

u sure?

[sage raptor]

yeah. hardiness is nerfed and the dmg racial doesnt do anything worth mentioning

extra cc always nice

I'd argue panda is a really good race tbh

[ivory granite]

so tauren?

for arms

wb fury

cs i enjoy fury too

[sage raptor]

orc in general really fell off

[ivory granite]

so question

how much versa does the average arms have

who is 2K+

[scarlet flame]

orc isstill good vs rouges

[ivory granite]

hey how much versa should arms have in pvp

cs im grinding to swap to arms soon

almost there

40%?

[scarlet flame]

i use somewhere around 30%

it drs after 30

[ivory granite]

what does drs mean again?

[scarlet flame]

diminishing returns

[ivory granite]

does everyone use like 40% versa

is that max

or nah

[scarlet flame]

i dont think anyone runs at 40%

[ivory granite]

whats the max versa in pvp mode?

[scarlet flame]

ive seen some people and ive had like 34%+

the max is whatever it is with vers on every piece of gear

[sage raptor]

youre going to have to really sell me on that

[scarlet flame]

well ive gotten some monk ports off bc of it

its given me some split second gaps in stuns that i could exploit by button mashing

its literally micro shit that doesn't matter tho

just pick whatever race

it doesn't matter whatsoever

[ivory granite]

so ive seen arms has a hard dropoff in damage after burst compared to fury, but is arms still better in 2s since it gives the healer more oppertunities to heal?

[lyric violet]

man mmr needs a boost

this deflation aint it lol everyone on glad mounts with r1 titles at 2000-2100 cr

[mild thunder]

hardiness is nerfed?

[ivory granite]

yeah

[mild thunder]

pretty sure it's still 10%, no?

that's still a half second off a 5s stun, better than anything tauren will give you

tauren racials are probably some of the worst in the game for warr, esp now that you already have 2 stuns you're rotating on DR

[ivory granite]

3 stuns are pretty good too

increased crit and hp

[mild thunder]

i mean, it's a 2sec stun on a 90sec CD with a cast-time, it's not exactly amazing

the only reason it's good for druid is because it's just long enough to clone

[ivory granite]

arms does less dmg in 2s than fury right?

[sage raptor]

by 50%

[mild thunder]

still better value than it was last season and still better than tauren imo

[sage raptor]

thats a no from me dawg

[mild thunder]

Hurr durr war stomp

[sage raptor]

aoe 8 yard stun

used for interrupts

what does orc give? useless dmg cd and stun reduction thats now useless

[mild thunder]

aoe 8 yard stun that gets in the way of warrior's stun DRs that most people probably cant even balance properly anyway

[mild thunder]

dmg cd isn't particularly big, but it's about as useful/better than 2% crit dmg

and .5s off a 5sec stun isn't useless, esp given warrior really only dies during stuns when fighting melee

[sage raptor]

if you use it like a retard sure

[sage raptor]

yeah thats useless

[mild thunder]

the majority of players are retards

[sage raptor]

then dont play like one

boom

problem solved

ggez go next

[mild thunder]

tauren isnt even in the question for top racials

[sage raptor]

kinda is though considering theres only a handful of racials that do anything

[unique fox]

Honestly being able to fuck rogues is worth hardiness alone

[mild thunder]

human, gnome, nelf, dark iron, dwarf, belf are all easily better than tauren

[unique fox]

They'll gap their stuns if they dont hold globals

[mild thunder]

also

sexier

[ivory granite]

what has more consistent damage, paladin or fury warr

[mild thunder]

bro just play w/e is more fun

[ivory granite]

can paladin cleave?

[mild thunder]

all classes can cleave

[ivory granite]

can pally cleave better and more consistently than fury warr

i mean

[mild thunder]

they both cleave very easily and consistently

[ivory granite]

what does more single target damage, ret pally or fury warr?

[mild thunder]

depends

pve or pvp?

[dreamy moat]

Gonna try out some fury pvp, do we try to stack up t30 bt as much as we can in a raging blow build?

[thick reef]

Just slam bloodthirst and rampage till u can’t feel ur fingers

Also had a lot of success with annihilator Onslaught build

[ivory granite]

pvp ofc

[ivory granite]

but u do allot less damage a second?

than raging blow

well not allot

slightly

how much versatillity and mastery do i need with fury

[thick reef]

Stack as much mast as u can

I got 51 mast and like 29 vers I think I’ll have a look when I jump on

[ivory granite]

god looks like i need more versa gear

so im tryna recraft but idk how to get the artsians mettle thing

[mild thunder]

pre much, yea

[ivory granite]

how do i get that

[mild thunder]

if/where you can

[ivory granite]

how do i recraft my gear

idk how to get artsians mettle

[thick reef]

Go mine some nodes bro

[ivory granite]

u can get em from that?

[dreamy moat]

thought so, and assuming that if running anni build with complete vers/mast like Mud with 0 tier just spam bt? haha

[thick reef]

Usually the crafter can use own mettle

[thick reef]

Yea bra

[ivory granite]

0/5 artsians mettle

[ivory granite]

where nodes at

[onyx sequoia]

for just regular RBG matches is the best stat prio and build still what is shown in the pins?

[thick reef]

Go fly around dragon flight you’ll see plenty of mining nodes

[ivory granite]

alright ill see

does recrafting use a shadowflame

[mild thunder]

yea

[ivory granite]

or nah

[mild thunder]

no

unless you're upgrading ilvl

[ivory granite]

SWEET

im not

i can actually redo my gear now 😄

[ivory granite]

does it require me to do quests and mine to get it

or in the nodes theres literally some

cs every node i found has 0

[thick reef]

crafter can just use own mettle, give it a google tho bro

[ivory granite]

so u dont needa put it in

ill try

[undone pumice]

wtf do u do withmettle as a gatherer tho

i got like 20k idk how to spend

[ivory granite]

what enchants should i put on my weps

as fury

god dude i attack so slow as fury

15% haste

honestly arms would be attacking faster at this point

[split spindle]

What build you prefer for solo shuffle with 4-tier set? Full bloodthirst with annihilator and onslaught, annihilator and odyn's or raging blow build with odyn's and onslaught?

[ivory granite]

raging blow does more damage

bloodthirst grants slightly more healing

and much less dmg

the differane is substantial. i tested both builds

[undone pumice]

sophic devotion

mega strength

[ivory granite]

should i go haste or versa with fury

[undone pumice]

or wafting drovtion

looks pins

[ivory granite]

whats better

thats 10.1.0 builds

[undone pumice]

both are flat dmg

its still 10.1

[ivory granite]

true

[undone pumice]

class hasnt been reworked

[ivory granite]

but what would do more dmg

versa or haste

i used to get 80% haste

[split spindle]

I think In at least solo shuffle if ur not a target, should go raging blow but then 4 set seems unusable

[ivory granite]

and 65% mast

i was hitting incredibly quickly

whats better tho

[split spindle]

God I would like so much that they bring back charging to target enhanced raging blow

[undone pumice]

crushing blow my beloved

[ivory granite]

versa or haste which is better for fury?

[split spindle]

Whole point with fury warr is to hit rampage as much as can and with so much enrage uptime,i would spend all that I can on mastery

[undone pumice]

every single piece has versa

[ivory granite]

trade items

[undone pumice]

go haste or mastery theyre equal afk

[ivory granite]

i mean crafting

[undone pumice]

u can choose ur crafte ditems to have versa with draconic missives

[ivory granite]

mastery/versa or mastery/haste

[undone pumice]

both are good bro

i dont play noodle spec

[ivory granite]

yeah ur right

[scarlet flame]

unless you are some giga brain 390000 player your 2% stat difference literally doesn't matter

just like your race doesn't matter

if you wna play fury pick one of the 2 builds, stack as much mastery and vers as you can on your gear, then go play arenas until you understand the class enough to actually care about the finer details of it

[wheat jay]

Nah that's bs

If you lose just say the enemy must have had one more gem than you

[vapid tartan]

You pretty much always want mastery. Haste is good, but keep in mind you get tons of haste already from frenzy

[dreamy moat]

tl;dr
mastery/vers

if you think fury is slow at 15% haste, you're not enraging yourself
you get plenty of haste from being enraged enough

mastery is outright damage increase
haste is not.

love a freudian slip
too busy being a fury warrior in the gym, can't type properly

[prime fern]

Are there any good PvP community discords?

[mild thunder]

this one

[remote ocean]

new to df pvp i gotta work on some saddles for arena so im doing 2s 3s only no rbg just arena, what are the 2 bis embellishments at the moment? cause to buy some crafting patterns is pricey and i want to grind my way to getting the 2 embellishments i need

playing arms

[west mural]

i use boots and sporecloak, also getting full gear and some gold for them takes like 2-3 days imho

and i mean everything except sockets

[remote ocean]

thanks so farm sporecloak pattern it is (or just buy it) and when you say boots any words in particular i look up? i want to wowhead it

im hearing the vers buff from chest (or bracers?) is not bad either but boots better?

[split spindle]

I use boots and helm with mastery over 90% HP unless I am kill target in solo shuffle

[remote ocean]

what words should i type in wowhead for the boots

im guessing blacksmith makes it i assume

[split spindle]

Just go on Murlock.io web site and look for Fury war meta talents,gear,ench etc

[remote ocean]

ah im doing arms

[split spindle]

You'll see there names for all gear you need

Same for arms

[remote ocean]

ok

[split spindle]

And all other classes

Just specify in upper right corner what bracket do u need: solo shuffle,2s,3s,m+

[remote ocean]

just went to the site, helps a lot, thanks

[split spindle]

Your welcome

[ivory granite]

im used to 80% haste.

feels so good

[empty arch]

can anyone please share a working death wish tracking weakaura ?

[charred onyx]

nah fury feels slow at 15% haste for the people that also do pve stuff because you drop so much haste

although its not that bad

[ivory granite]

i mean sure u get like 40% haste with enrage but it doesnt feel fast

doesnt versa also grant more healing?

[charred onyx]

when you got bloodlust and pi on you in a dungeon. it feels like your on drugs

ya vers grants healing, damage and damage reduction

[ivory granite]

so it is better than haste

[charred onyx]

in pvp

[ivory granite]

cs idk if i got a good burst but the burst is 1 second low of damage compared to haste

on the pvp dummy

[charred onyx]

the only reason vers is good at all in pvp is because of the damage reduction

[ivory granite]

and healing inc??

[charred onyx]

the healing portion is only self healing. the damage reduction is the important part

[ivory granite]

since fury is one of the lowest dmging healing

[charred onyx]

only healing self and others

[ivory granite]

compared to ret

n stuff

[charred onyx]

as in vers doesnt make you receive more healing, just you heal more with healing abilities you cast

[ivory granite]

ah

like bloodthirst n shit?

[charred onyx]

it should count towards that ya

but still, vers would be a dead stat to most classes if it didnt provide the damage reduction

because its generally not the best option to increase your damage over the other 3 stats except for specific specs

but the damage reduction makes it so anyone not running vers takes more damage than anyone else while also only gaining a little bit extra dps

[ivory granite]

ur attack on the dummy is defo 1-2 seconds slower than haste, but like u said the damage reduction

[next rapids]

Which one between arms or fury for casual pvp (random bg, SS and 2s at 1.8k)?

[teal hedge]

Honestly, they're pretty much equal, with fury being slightly more viable and easier.

(Especially within 2s)

[next rapids]

Ah tyvm!

[ivory granite]

hold up

[tribal wedge]

Arms is a bit trickier so i assume Fury is better for casual play

[teal hedge]

Yeah

Then again, both specs aren't that hard

[next rapids]

Fury it is! Thanks a lot for input!

[teal hedge]

Good luck!

[tribal wedge]

Sure thing

[ivory granite]

highmountain tauren or orc for fury warrior?

[tribal wedge]

Nothing compare to Outlaw rogue ....

[teal hedge]

Orc is betetr

Human/Gnome (maybe nelf?) for alliance

And orc for horde

Also, dwarf/dark iron dwarf for alliance as well

Pretty good

[ivory granite]

tauren or orc??

[tribal wedge]

Orc IS bis for horde

[ivory granite]

human or dwarf

also how is orc better than high tauren tho? the bracial barely does anything

[fallen solar]

So I was wanting to be one of the few people to get to 2400 without addons and macros

But my god

[ivory granite]

thats nearly impossible

[fallen solar]

I feel like I need something lol

I’ve got 2000

Which is impressive

But now

Is there anything that lets you know that a healer is casting something other than looking at the bar that they are? Like a horn or something letting you know healer is casting cyclone or something

So I can react quick with an interrupt

I mean it’s pretty fucking sad we need addons and shit just to be good at the game. That’s blizzards fault

[ivory granite]

nvm genuine question

troll or orc for fury warrior? troll racial increases haste by 10% wheras blood fury barely does a 1% damage differance.

hardly noticeable

[tribal wedge]

Always be Orc on horde side

[ivory granite]

but blood fury is nearly useless now..

[delicate parrot]

but ZUG ZUG

[sharp meteor]

Orc.

[sharp meteor]

No, it isn't, and you never picked orc for blood fury.

[ivory granite]

it is. a 1% differance is barely noticeable

[sharp meteor]

On-use damage plus the CC reduction is better than Berserking.

Which is on a long ass CD.

[ivory granite]

but whats better berserking or blood fury

in the burst

[sharp meteor]

Probably Dark Iron.

[ivory granite]

berserking or blood fury-

cs im running full haste/mastery build with crafted stuff

as it does slightly more dmg than versa

[tribal wedge]

You need to aim for 30% versa

[scarlet flame]

@ivory granite bro orc is better than every other horde race for warrior because of the cc reduction. its not even close. also ill say it again bc you seem to ignore it the race you choose has basically zero impact on your gameplay until very high rating, literally the top % of people. your burst on the dummy literally doesn't matter because pvp dummy only puts your geat at 450. you have such garbage concepts of pvp and you keep asking the same questions over and over even though they've been answered over and over

[green anchor]

🔥

[charred onyx]

finally unlocked my snail mount

[scarlet flame]

gz bro

[split spindle]

🙌

[ivory granite]

@scarlet flame bro all i said was troll or orc racial blood fury or berserk which is better, now this long ass detailed essay about me being wrong at pvp. i know the race barely matters im just considering a race change from orc to troll or tauren due to the different buffs, dont come at me for stupid shit when im doing nothing but asking questions

not different racials.

entirely

[scarlet flame]

yeah you been told it doesn't matter, play what race you want

you've asked the same questions 100 times

got the same answers back

[ivory granite]

alr then im finna play troll then

[scarlet flame]

game it up as a troll

[ivory granite]

cs i enjoy haste allot

[scarlet flame]

then stack as much haste as you can get

lot of crafting gear is customizable now

[ivory granite]

exactly im getting 91% haste with full buffs

[scarlet flame]

scalewarden gear is 447 in pvp when you upgrade it with sparks quest stuff

[ivory granite]

and 65% mastery

troll ill get 101%

haste

which is why im happy for it

[scarlet flame]

do it up if thats what you want to do

[ivory granite]

also im saying this with the wafting devotion buff

without that u get like 81%

for me

71%-76%*

[mild thunder]

Bro had enough 🗣️ 🔥

[scarlet flame]

[ivory granite]

removes all haste

haste makes ur attacks faster which overall does more damage than versa, even inb urst as u start to attack so fuckin slow with max versa

[tribal wedge]

can't deal anything if you get one tap

[ivory granite]

a 5% damage reduction differance

vs a good 10% damage increase

[tribal wedge]

not 5

[green anchor]

30% versa is +30% dmg dealt and 15% dmg taken reduction

[sage raptor]

That fuckin pfp lmaoooo

[ivory granite]

oh shit ur right i have like hold up

[mild thunder]

surely you're trolling

[ivory granite]

surely

[mild thunder]

either that or unironically 12

same age as @teal hedge

[ivory granite]

7.5 damage recution

with 70% haste

[green anchor]

You will die in a 3 sec stun

[ivory granite]

i havent yet it seems

[mild thunder]

i actually like running 0 stats

[tribal wedge]

and what will do your haste when you are gonna be kitted as death vs mage/hunt or anything distant ?

[teal hedge]

What

[ivory granite]

slow

stun

slow again

[teal hedge]

The oldest moist viewer is still in middle school

[ivory granite]

sniff

okay imma stop trolling

lmfao

[teal hedge]

Schrödinger's troll

[sage raptor]

0%? I didn't know it was amateur hour with all those stats.

[mild thunder]

bro doesnt know the secret no-stat build

lmao

noob

[sage raptor]

Smh my head

[mild thunder]

people that run stats on their gear kiss their wife's boyfriend goodnight

[teal hedge]

You guys run talents?

[sage raptor]

You guys pick a spec?

[ivory granite]

so like i have 80% haste without wafting devotion, if i recraft my stuff ill do more dmg with versa?

[green anchor]

You guys play the game?

[ivory granite]

well nearly the same cs i already tested it

[mild thunder]

no, i talk shit on discord

[sage raptor]

You guys?

[green anchor]

fuck yea

[ivory granite]

1 second differance pretty much, but damage reduction

[teal hedge]

No 😔

[green anchor]

I quit in March

[mild thunder]

i farmed 6 mounts today

was fun

[ivory granite]

yeah im finna swap to versa rq.

[green anchor]

resubbed 2 days ago for a month as a test

already feeling like not playing

[teal hedge]

I like the game, not the bills

[sage raptor]

Im a pve brain farter now. They get content every patch.

[mild thunder]

based

i love m+, but i cant raid

so boring

[green anchor]

I'm cry

[mild thunder]

and no cap, i love the pace of 3s atm

it's the perfect sweet spot

[green anchor]

Can't raid either, only M+ but it gets really boring after I've done each dungeon ~3 times

I wish they'd open all dungeons for M+

[sage raptor]

My healer throws keys because she thinks its funny to die to mechanics and and/or not heal when someone gets hit by one mechanic

[green anchor]

I watched a bit of AWC yesterday... 60%+ damp games

[sage raptor]

Bfa had great M+ tbh

With the exception of a few

[scarlet flame]

since bg3 came out i haven't played wow nah

[mild thunder]

average healer mentality (they're barely even needed)

[green anchor]

yeah I got sucked in by D4 instead but the Season 1 patch was really ass

[mild thunder]

awc is always slower than ladder, that's such a boring point

extremely skilled players v other extremely skilled players

[green anchor]

idk, not every match is/was slow

[sage raptor]

Who also comp with counter specs

[scarlet flame]

they will almost never have cheese kills there because they all know what to do basically all the time

[mild thunder]

^

[scarlet flame]

you'll get some guys dying in opener but thats usually just 1 mistake

awc totally different from ladder pvp

[mild thunder]

idk it's so boring when people just say "but this happened in awc ☝️ 🤓"

[scarlet flame]

open sign ups

[sage raptor]

But outlaw soooo gud dood! It's in awc!!

[mild thunder]

real

[scarlet flame]

yeah man the 1 guy who is the only person staning outlaw played it against a lower skilled team in gauntlet

[mild thunder]

only 200iq and up can spec into outlaw

[scarlet flame]

gotta be slept on

[sharp meteor]

Moderately deranged.

[scarlet flame]

dont worry guys fdk is slept on

[sage raptor]

I'd say it's up to par with most dps tbh

[scarlet flame]

no one knows how to play that class rn thats all

[sharp meteor]

Not entirely untrue.

FDK aug seems reasonably cracked.

FDK dev still a thing.

[scarlet flame]

why play fdk when you can play unholy

[sage raptor]

So true

[scarlet flame]

why play outlaw when you can play sub

[sharp meteor]

Idk why play warr when you can play sub

[green anchor]

ww

[sharp meteor]

why play wow when you can play a real pvp game

[sage raptor]

Why play wow when you can touch grass

[scarlet flame]

im going to touch grass today

[sage raptor]

Same

[sharp meteor]

Exisentialism setting in

[green anchor]

I refuse

[sage raptor]

My grass is brown though from the 100+ degrees the past month

[green anchor]

got a Gorehowl to farm

🤓

[scarlet flame]

i want gorehowl too

if i give you acc details you wont steal all my gold right

[sage raptor]

I pinky promise to steal all your gold

[scarlet flame]

so honest

[mild thunder]

i dont

[green anchor]

(he has no gold because he spent it on T3)

[scarlet flame]

i dont have enough gold to buy t3

[green anchor]

I was always poor in this game

[mild thunder]

my wife's boyfriend let me borrow his t3

[sage raptor]

He has enough gold to buy one mount from the northend dalaran mount vendor

[scarlet flame]

i have like 300k

[sharp meteor]

I think I managed to get most of t3 minus Warlock set for like 10-30k a piece over the years.

[mild thunder]

fake news

[sharp meteor]

Almost tempted to finish warr set. Almost.

[scarlet flame]

its always the vulpera with glasses mog that have millions of gold

whats that tell you

[sharp meteor]

I sold keys and offered a discount if the gold was on a dead realm.

So I'd have like a pile of 120k on blackhand

[green anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-sunakook-tired-exhausted-gif-24687868

[sharp meteor]

and snag 5 pieces of t3 over a few months with that

[sage raptor]

Did you up the price for rag players?

[sharp meteor]

No, but my tank upcharged roleplayers.

[sage raptor]

Lol

[mild thunder]

all that gold, but you could never buy any bitches

[sharp meteor]

[sage raptor]

I don't understand why we can't generalize people from a specific realm when literally everyone has had the same experience

[sharp meteor]

Actually kind of in shambles right now

[sage raptor]

Gottem

[sharp meteor]

Wanna buy a spectral tiger for 35m

[scarlet flame]

35m

fuck off

[mild thunder]

p

[sharp meteor]

[mild thunder]

i hope you get scammed and lose everything

that would genuinely make my day

[sage raptor]

You see spectral tiger, I see free game time.

[green anchor]

lmao yes

I revel in people's misfortune

[sage raptor]

Same, it's why I queue tank.

[mild thunder]

based schadenfreude enthusiast

[sage raptor]

I'm the reason you go 3-3 and you lose mmr

[ivory granite]

does highmountain tauren take less dmg?

[sage raptor]

No

[sharp meteor]

A tiny, tiny bit off each attack.

[sage raptor]

Well technically since it has vers

[sharp meteor]

Plus the vers.

Also the charge is pretty good.

[ivory granite]

is highmountain tauren gud for fury then?>

[mild thunder]

yea but tauren has more hp so it can take more dmg and not die

hmmmmmmmm

[sage raptor]

Okay but

Charge

[sharp meteor]

It seems fine/good, yeah.

Just get a cancelaura for bull rush.

[ivory granite]

better than troll correct?

[mild thunder]

but goblin can jump away

and mobility is the best defensive

hmmmmmmmm

[sage raptor]

Gobby slept on

[sharp meteor]

You jump towards them.

Running away is throwing the game.

[ivory granite]

lets all be for real

[sage raptor]

No

[ivory granite]

vulpera is the best horde race

[sage raptor]

Let's all be for fake

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-taxidermy-dog-gif-14593541

[ivory granite]

better than orc

its so good

[mild thunder]

live cam of @sharp meteor

[sharp meteor]

Real and true.

[ivory granite]

the bag of tricKs is so clutch

[sage raptor]

Bulky plate mogs are silly looking too

[sharp meteor]

Killed a Rogue dweeb with it the other day.

Stil wish they'd buff it by 100%

[mild thunder]

it'd hit harder than ms

[sharp meteor]

Yerrr.

[sage raptor]

B)

[ivory granite]

how much is the highmountain tauren versa buff

[sharp meteor]

1%

[sage raptor]

1%

[mild thunder]

2%

[scarlet flame]

bro

[ivory granite]

damn

[sage raptor]

(I said it better)

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/omw-to-spread-misinformation-all-over-the-internet-gif-26525511

[sharp meteor]

Hey.

[scarlet flame]

that shit is ugly

[ivory granite]

how much damage reduction does high tauren have

[scarlet flame]

as fuck

be ashamed of it

[sharp meteor]

I don't wear that set.

[scarlet flame]

what set do you wear

fucking vulpera bro

[sharp meteor]

Cruel elite in general.

Or sinful on Vulp.

[scarlet flame]

smh

just go naked

same with gnome

[sage raptor]

I'm vulp squad too

[scarlet flame]

why use gear

lkook at your fuckin helmet bro

[sage raptor]

I look like a popsicle

[scarlet flame]

its bigger than your body

[sage raptor]

Lmao

[scarlet flame]

goofy as fuck

[sharp meteor]

I think that'd be a bit much. Most pugs just leave when they join the party and see two vulpera as it is.

[scarlet flame]

i wouldn't leave but i'd feel dirty bein in that group for sure

[sage raptor]

My healer plays a vulpera and ALWAYS has owospeak turned on

[sharp meteor]

Intense. I've never tried that one, actually.

[mild thunder]

i still trust vulpera players more than i trust female tauren/troll

[scarlet flame]

next level cringe

[mild thunder]

who THE FUCK

[scarlet flame]

nah same level

[mild thunder]

plays those goofy ass race/gender combos

[sharp meteor]

Fem troll just boomer from mop when it was bis I guess.

[scarlet flame]

female tauren might be the worst tbh

[sage raptor]

Flark plays fem tauren

[scarlet flame]

who cares

[sage raptor]

Do with that as you will

[mild thunder]

i dont wanna fact-check this becasue i want to believe it

[sharp meteor]

Kind of mixed feelings on fem tauren. They just do some wonky jump/run stuff.

[sage raptor]

It's 1000% true

[sharp meteor]

I mean that's his main DK

[scarlet flame]

i know a guy who picked female tauren in classic and quit because he couldn't stand how ugly it was outside of form

[mild thunder]

if you play this, you're a bot

[sharp meteor]

Classic in general is an eyesore.

[green anchor]

🐄

[ivory granite]

🐄

[sharp meteor]

Beep boop.

[scarlet flame]

male tauren kinda cracked tho

[scarlet flame]

you play female tauren and vulpera

[sharp meteor]

Yerr.

[scarlet flame]

idk bro

those are some pretty big Ls idk if you can come back from that

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/glare-cant-see-blurred-vision-gif-15278830

[sage raptor]

Hurts to look at

[ivory granite]

is Z troll a good race

[sharp meteor]

It isn't.

In any capacity.

[mild thunder]

only if they're white

[scarlet flame]

shut up

you dont get to say anything

[ivory granite]

why do people play it when paladin

lmfao

[sharp meteor]

No redeeming qualities about zand trolls.

[scarlet flame]

bubble regen racial

[green anchor]

https://i.imgur.com/BfZNEpF.png

[sage raptor]

Only if you're going for aesthetic.

[green anchor]

WIDEHARD

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, male tauren pretty sick.

[mild thunder]

5% movespeed = fun

[ivory granite]

tauren looks so cool

[scarlet flame]

BIG WARRIOR

[sharp meteor]

Except the neck/hunch thing kind of scuffo.

Makes helmets look wonky.

[scarlet flame]

just dont wear a helmet

[sharp meteor]

Yerr.

[sage raptor]

Not a lot of good helms these days anyway

[scarlet flame]

nah fox you dont get to say a race looks ugly

[sage raptor]

It's all in the shoulders baybee

[scarlet flame]

playing female tauren and vulpera

[ivory granite]

blood elf for life

fr

[mild thunder]

tauren also has the chaddest heritage stuff

[scarlet flame]

cringe too

[sharp meteor]

I play a good bit of everything. Except Gnome, they can't really be fixed.

[sage raptor]

I've learned how to tell if a female belf is a dude or not

[scarlet flame]

gnome is just a hairless vulpera wym

[mild thunder]

gnome master-race

[green anchor]

kickball race

[mild thunder]

one day the gnomes will conquer azeroth

[sharp meteor]

Gonna chance the ban with morphing if I ever have to play a Gnome.

[scarlet flame]

sure thing grandpa

[sage raptor]

Just as soon as they find the stepping stool

[mild thunder]

and genocide goblins

[scarlet flame]

fuck goblins

[sharp meteor]

They're like the upgraded version of gnomes.

Except not quite comic relief tier.

[sage raptor]

Redneck Jewish gnomes

[mild thunder]

yea... "upgraded"...

[sage raptor]

(((Upgraded)))

[sharp meteor]

Well, they didn't get updated.

Cata hair.

Shambles.

[mild thunder]

sad no one's mentioned undead

quietly a good race

[sharp meteor]

Gnomes are just a weird dev pet race; just look at Mechagnomes. Like, imagine being Alliance and that's your new race.

[sage raptor]

Yeah I wanted to but I liked the gnome hate

[mild thunder]

femdead has a pretty balanced model

[ivory granite]

high tauren or normal tauren

for fury

[sage raptor]

Flip a coin

[mild thunder]

nightborne

extra magic dmg

[ivory granite]

is awful ik

[mild thunder]

kinda op

[sage raptor]

Fem undead

[ivory granite]

is goated

fr

[sharp meteor]

HMT with BR cancelaura.

[teal hedge]

I only roll males

[sage raptor]

Necrolord plate set on undead makes them do extra damage.

Fun fact

[mild thunder]

sus

[teal hedge]

I have a worgen, a dranei and a gnome

[mild thunder]

aint no way blud plays the 3 worst male races

[teal hedge]

This guy doesn't get it

[sharp meteor]

At least gnome has a good racial.

[mild thunder]

your mum got it last night

[green anchor]

[mild thunder]

gnome racial is never not fun

[teal hedge]

Just went for aesthetics

Worgens look cool

Dranei look cool

Gnomes are little critters

[mild thunder]

worgen does not look cool

[teal hedge]

It does!

[mild thunder]

draenei does not look cool

male

fem draenei has kinda fallen off

[teal hedge]

Dranei females are so boring

[mild thunder]

fem nelf still S tier

[sage raptor]

You furry FREAK

[teal hedge]

Besides, female characters have worse mogs than males

[mild thunder]

pretty much all my chars rn are fem nelf or fem orc

[teal hedge]

Despicable information

[sharp meteor]

Werewolves are cool.

[green anchor]

fem orc 🤮

[sage raptor]

Female characters were put into wow specifically to be eye candy and you cannot change my mind.

[mild thunder]

if you dislike fem orc you have questionable eyesight

[sharp meteor]

Fem orc pretty solid, yer.

[teal hedge]

Still, rolling females is pretty weird

[mild thunder]

femgnome

[sage raptor]

Alcohol fetal syndrome looking headasses

[teal hedge]

Why are you, as a man, playing as a woman?

[green anchor]

you mean body 2

[mild thunder]

because i like looking at women
why are you, as a man, looking at men

[teal hedge]

Because I like looking at men

[mild thunder]

fem orc is also barely even noticeably female, it looks more like an irl man than human male

[sage raptor]

These oreos are for you

[teal hedge]

What

[sage raptor]

Chicken butt

[sharp meteor]

Buff darkflight, please.

[mild thunder]

all my homies hate oreos

[mild thunder]

bro thinks he's van helsing

[teal hedge]

REALEST THERE EVER WAS

Oreos are actually insane

[sage raptor]

If I mained M+ AND I was cringe enough to main alliance, I would play worgen

[teal hedge]

You eat like two and your stomach ruptures open

[mild thunder]

if i mained m+ and my wife had a boyfriend, i would play worgen

[sage raptor]

My wife has a boyfriend

[sharp meteor]

I notice a pretty high concentration of Worgen on Frostmourne

[sage raptor]

It's my other personality

[sharp meteor]

what's up with that

[teal hedge]

Worgen is just simply the coolest

[mild thunder]

too many australians were dropped on their heads as babies

[teal hedge]

Very much enjoy gilneas, as well

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, good unused city.

[teal hedge]

Britain, if it was epic

[mild thunder]

yea i also enjoyed gilneas... until blizzard forgot it existed

[sage raptor]

That city is haunted

[teal hedge]

Popo is such a rare critter

[sage raptor]

Nuh uh

[teal hedge]

Yuh uh

[sage raptor]

Dang you got me

I just can't compete with that

[mild thunder]

whatever happened to roxi

[sage raptor]

I feel like that name is familiar

[ivory granite]

what is highmountain taurens damage reduction

like 1%

?

[mild thunder]

bro

stop

[ivory granite]

america

[sage raptor]

What did we tell you last time?

[ivory granite]

u said sum abt versatillity

[sharp meteor]

It's a flat amount.

[mild thunder]

it's 100%, they dont take dmg

[sage raptor]

Giga op

Have fun!

I haven't seen a mechgnome rogue before

[ivory granite]

i forgot that race exists

[sage raptor]

Most do

[mild thunder]

weird

bot race for bot class

[sharp meteor]

The only Mechagnome I've seen is that literal one survival guy who has like 3

named like Jesus and Willy

[ivory granite]

🧑‍🔧

[sharp meteor]

[mild thunder]

skill issue

[sage raptor]

Their mogs are cheap af though

I'll give credit where credit is due

All you need is shoulder, helm, back, and weapon

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, you're just sort of limited to the colors of their prosthetics, so gold, silver and rust.

[sage raptor]

You can't change the color?

[green anchor]

Wish I had gotten this elite set

[sharp meteor]

Legion had some fantastic sets.

[green anchor]

Ye

whole Legion setting was epic

[sharp meteor]

I didn't play much during the first season but the second and third season just had so many great sets to grab.

Really digging the chonky belt, boots and gloves of the antorus warr set.

[ivory granite]

whats the best ALLIANCE race for fury?

dward human etc

dwarf

[teal hedge]

Worgen

Darkflight is op

[honest sundial]

@elfin surge blizo fearming the lad

might need to learn play

[elfin surge]

fury lol

[ivory granite]

dwarf or human for fury

[sage raptor]

Are you making a bunch of warriors?

[ivory granite]

considering a faction/race change

[fallen solar]

Bro. People really world pvping in groups. All from tichendrious for some reason all farming me at the spawn point. They foaming at the mouth. I told one of them they ain’t shit without a group and they lost their minds. Hardcore players at their finest

Like they are mad. When it’s 5 against 1 lol

[still notch]

Soooooooo with warrior, Fury or arms?

in pvp?

xD Im going to make my tank into a pvp dude (Not played it since launch of DF...) I've only ever played warrior as a tank so yeah which one xd

[ivory granite]

fury does more burst damage and consistent damage, but arms can cleave. depends if you wanna run 2s or 3s

arms for 3s fury for 2s

[opal acorn]

Fury can't cleave?

[ivory granite]

not as good as arms

but it can

[opal acorn]

I don't know about that

[vapid tartan]

Seems he found happiness after all and quit

[spice hornet]

fury has like no cleave

and so deos arms

[ivory granite]

haste or versa with fury (with the crafted items) im just not sure lol.. theyre the same damage but haste just feels so clean

ik the damage reduction.. but idk

[spice hornet]

mastery

just go all mastery

you get tons of haste when youre enraged

[ivory granite]

haste/mastery or versa/mastery

[spice hornet]

vers/mastery

[limber relic]

im streaming some fury 3s rn 😄

affli fury feels pretty decent tbh

so far atleast

[spice hornet]

the lock has to be really good imo

for that

[ivory granite]

whats ur channel

[spice hornet]

nothing is gonna die in time if your lock isn't landing fears and it's aids to get those off into WW/DK cancer

[limber relic]

seifcham @ twitch

[opal acorn]

I my recent experience trying to gear ww via 2s and 3s, ppl just don't cc

So rip fear ig

[spice hornet]

a nice saturday afternoon, 61 people online on my bnet, 0 of them are on WoW

[green anchor]

61 of them are on BG3

[teal hedge]

Oh my god

This K guy is so unbelievable cooked

Looked at the round, outlaw was lowest damage out of the dps-players

[scarlet flame]

why the fuck are you giving your opinion about anything

when you have to ask questions about the basic shit

whatever you say or whatever your opinions are, they are irrelevant to anyone also asking questions because you dont know anything yourself

[scarlet flame]

why tf people still on about this other troll

he hasn't typed anything for 2 days let him stay dead who cares lmao

[teal hedge]

God forbid a man pop off

[scarlet flame]

let the guy stay quiet bro he had a shit take and gloated about klavish playing outlaw in gauntlet

he needs something in his life

[spice hornet]

shuffle lobby should immediately end if someone does 0 healing, 0 damage, and 0 movement during a round

i zone in, healer on my team is afk round 1

so i get an auto-loss

[scarlet flame]

thats pretty shit yeah

[teal hedge]

They should punish leavers / afk people more as well

[spice hornet]

he comes back "sorry my 2 year old fell down that first round"

like WTF

[teal hedge]

WHAT

[scarlet flame]

yeah you eat shit because he let his child fall

[teal hedge]

Got mogged by a 2 year old

[spice hornet]

can't climb dealing with the 2 year old affic

affix

[scarlet flame]

imagine losing an arena to a 2 year old

how you gunna recover

okay i know what i said

[spice hornet]

this is why if you want to push shuff seriously

you need 2x of the same class

[scarlet flame]

but klavish is playing sub vs a good team

i wonder why

[still notch]

lol so fury or arms xD

which feels better

[scarlet flame]

nvm hes outlaw

[spice hornet]

you just get straight trolled on some lobbies

[still notch]

I legit got no idea

[scarlet flame]

i dont see killing spree there wtf

[spice hornet]

they dont need it sometimes

lol

[scarlet flame]

[spice hornet]

ive rarely seen poutlaw play it

[teal hedge]

Fury is a little simpler, but the classes are really up to your own personal preference

[still notch]

i guess ill have to try both xD

do they both gear the same?

[scarlet flame]

if you're playing SS both are equal

gear isn't the same

[teal hedge]

Fury wants a lot of mastery, if I understand things right

[still notch]

whats prio for arms? im sure i saw vers mastery with fury

[teal hedge]

Arms is more comfortable with a little more haste

[still notch]

Fair enough

[spice hornet]

every fucking lobby

has hpals and a ret

and it takes literally way too long for warr c omps to end the game

[scarlet flame]

i love 3 bops

[delicate parrot]

As a former ESO player, all of those things mentioned should seem familiar

[spice hornet]

literaly unfair lobby

2 hpals, ret, augvoker, hunter

nothing can die

from the warrior pov

[fallen solar]

I know!

[delicate parrot]

I feel your pain, friend!! Sweats are gonna sweat

[loud goblet]

hey does anyone wannna run 2v2 pvp?

rated

[severe narwhal]

I noticed that no one uses slam as arms. With all the haste stacking, don't you have a lot of time where you have 0 overpower charges and MS on cooldown? What do you press in that instance if no slam talents?

Because I've noticed doing shuffle matches that if I just use the standard bleed spec, that without using slam, there are times where I have nothing to press while I'm on a target

[sharp meteor]

Hamstring.

Reapply Rend.

I feel like it's usually troll to press Slam over just pressing nothing.

[scarlet flame]

there really shouldn't be too many times you're pressing something thats not op ms exe ignore pain rend hamstring

slam just doesn't really fit into it

if you're not talented into it it does basically the same damage as rends initial hit lmao

[severe narwhal]

Okay that makes sense. I was just curious because when I tested out fully talented slam, it was critting for 60k.

[sage raptor]

False

It was critting for 62k

I was the combat log

[severe narwhal]

Just getting back into dragonflight. Haven't played since season 1 when stacking crit was the meta. Kinda screwed myself over a bit because I wasn't aware of the changes before I spent a bunch of conquest points

[split spindle]

They are constantly buffing slam and still no one use it..they better remove that skill and add smth else..and I want bladestorm for Fury! 😁

[severe narwhal]

Kinda surprised no one is running spear anymore either, any particular reason for that? Is it because warriors aren't stacking crit anymore or is it something else?

[split spindle]

I don't know,spear will always have place on my hearth because of tremendous use in locking down target

[severe narwhal]

How about stacking mastery instead of haste? Is that a thing? Since it's 160 rating for 1% damage, seems like a good deal. Or do you end up rage starved?

[elfin surge]

@severe narwhal crit and spear have been nerfed so we stack mastery now

[dreamy moat]

Are you playing Fury? Yes. Mastery.
Are you playing Arms? Yes. Stack Haste.

[split spindle]

I was considering arms with same mastery gear from fury

[elfin surge]

Arms wants 15-20% haste then rest Mast/Vers

[dreamy moat]

At the point of seeing what they said about stacking haste/mastery I was convinced they're just trolling.
It's like they're asking for advice, but when given it's not what they want to hear so they disregard it.

"I have a problem."
Here's the solution
"I DON'T WANT THE SOLUTION"

[severe narwhal]

I was thinking of trying that too but I want to understand why haste is being chosen as the main stat for arms by most warriors. My assumption is that without stacking crit to get wild strikes uptime, you have to stack haste or you won't have rage, but I don't know

[ivory granite]

what bout it

i have a BIG problem RAAA

whats the max versa u can stack

isnt it like 30%?

[severe narwhal]

I'm at like 38% I didn't know about the diminishing returns, but it doesn't seem like a major penalty.

[ivory granite]

so like 30%

[severe narwhal]

I think you have to pay an extra 20-30 verse for 1% after 30%

[ivory granite]

glad gems exist

[severe narwhal]

Ya I donno, the diminishing returns don't seem that bad after 30%

If I swapped that extra 8% verse for mastery I could probably get +12% mastery, but I would lose 4% damage reduction too. So I donno

[ivory granite]

12% damage increase for a 4% damage reduction?

sounds like a good deal

[severe narwhal]

No I would lose the 8% damage increase from the verse. So it's more like +4% damage instead of +4% damage reduction

And since I only play SS I would kinda prefer the damage reduction

[ivory granite]

i mean mastery>versa

[scarlet flame]

[severe narwhal]

For fury maybe

[ivory granite]

OH ur arms?

[severe narwhal]

You get a lot less damage increase per mastery as arms

[ivory granite]

keep the verse

[scarlet flame]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

@mild thunder

[spice hornet]

I really like fighting ww/hpal/arcane mage

as a warrior

nothing will die to you

[ivory granite]

a good comp is like afflic lock (or arcane mage or ww monk) fury warr and MW monk

[bright wadi]

i am a noob doing fury solo shuffle for the fun, whats the go with anni vs normal build, see high rating people go anni

[mild thunder]

Bro is still going

[mild thunder]

Lmao warrior can’t be kited by mage tho

[spice hornet]

Arcane is untouchable

If they have two brain cell

With hpal freedoms

[mild thunder]

Outlaw wouldn’t get kited like that

But you’re not high enough iq

[ivory granite]

all you need is 30% versatillity, correct? nothing more nothing less for fury

[mild thunder]

nah

go full haste

70% haste dude

[teal hedge]

More faster more faster press the button

Simple

[ivory granite]

u sure tho? the damage reduction is nice

[ancient sonnet]

How important is the offhand for fury? Worth picking up 2nd or focus on tier/embellishments first?

[fallen estuary]

Who missed me

@elfin surge ❤️

Bro i got banned from the mage discord

[elfin surge]

LMAO

nice

im prob next

[fallen estuary]

Like i shiddid on their carpet a trillion times but when i said their discords as bad as the forums

They were like aw hell nah and banned me

Also wtf is up with the monk discord

Thats like the only class discord that needs a phone number to enter

I wanted to call em a bunch of anger addicts but guess i cant

[dreamy moat]

who cares, they can't dmg you if they're dead from all the haste you stack bro

[fallen estuary]

also @elfin surge im legit r8 on prot leaderboard bruh

you should try it out

[scarlet flame]

bro its so not fun playing sometimes

[fallen estuary]

im drinking bottles of jack daniels and obliterating lobbies like its nothing LMAO

[scarlet flame]

we almost lost this game it went to like 70% damp

im so bad at healing its not even fun playing

i wana be a dps

[fallen estuary]

mortal strike it

[ivory granite]

still same damage in the same amnt of time

[dreamy moat]

but it's faster

go for it

[ivory granite]

i feel like im gettin trolled frfr

[dreamy moat]

we would never

[ivory granite]

no but this time im being deadass

all the other times i admit i was trolling

[fallen estuary]

ONG FR

[teal hedge]

Trolling is for cringe children

People with "gala" in their name are the most trustworthy

[ivory granite]

woohoo im trustworthy

[sharp meteor]

So heroic.

That place is a rough go.

[snow jay]

could someone help me learn arms

[fallen estuary]

I mean if you go there you can still see my skidmarks all over their discord. Mages man they are just something else

[sharp meteor]

Pray for buffies on Monday.

[snow jay]

?

[sharp meteor]

Arms isn't great and they generally have tuning on Friday or Monday.

[snow jay]

should i stick to fury then?

[fallen estuary]

We need a 10% prot damage buff

Arms honestly is a lost cause

Its gonna be another 10% slam buff LMAO

Wait

Wtf

Kennie

I just noticed thats you

[sharp meteor]

Hey.