pvp

[teal hedge]

Simple as

[honest sundial]

Im more of a gnome guy tbh

[honest sundial]

but I respect everyone's pereferences

[mild thunder]

real mud?

[honest sundial]

😎

[mild thunder]

@neat robin prepare for trouble

and make it double

[teal hedge]

Holt shit is that mud

Esteemed grown-in-lab warrior main?

[elfin surge]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/the-warrior-changes-i-want/1650069

🍿

Todays content

[opal acorn]

The mage is upset

Without the last line it's fair tbh

[mild thunder]

instead, how about

Executioner’s Precision is now 6% effective in PvP Combat (was 30%).
Martial Prowess is now 6% effective in PvP Combat (was 33%).
Execute damage increased by 2% in PvP Combat.

[elfin surge]

fuck you.

[mild thunder]

[muted surge]

Which of you fan boys is that

[wheat jay]

@mild thunder

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[opal acorn]

Ur build is wrong mud

[mild thunder]

mud steals my builds

[elfin surge]

absurd. Warriors are REALLY strong right now, if you’re not feeling that then there’s something wrong with your build.

[opal acorn]

Fix ur build man

[elfin surge]

fuck its my build

70k mortal strike peak is due to my build!

[mild thunder]

yes

just play omega whirlwind build

[elfin surge]

Holy, this guy doesn’t quit. Stop spamming the forums with this crap. Please report this kid for spamming and move on.

[mild thunder]

hurricane + bonegrinder + storm of swords

[elfin surge]

LMAO

love the forums

C O N T E N T

[muted surge]

Is dk strong atm?

[mild thunder]

you should do a forum review on stream @elfin surge

unironically better content than 99% of wow streamers

[elfin surge]

LOL

Forum Friday

[mild thunder]

legitimately a good idea

id watch

[fickle forge]

You need to build an accent then

Create at least 5 personas

Spread them over different posts you read

[mild thunder]

it'll be like the old bajheera alt videos

they were so golden

[glacial shale]

I do that with my guild on the weekly raid balance post of wowhead

[fickle forge]

I remember when this channel had reactions

[glacial shale]

legit funniest shit ever

[elfin surge]

The fact that you resort to doing this and I have been watching you carefully do this must show how pathetic your life is with your boosted glad wins. You must be really sad in life. Do you not have friends or family at all? Maybe seek out help from them regarding your mental illness?

[tawny elm]

time to put the pvp shoes on the shelf till next season 🙂

[fickle forge]

@elfin surge shows extreme levels of narcissism, he has utterly no self control, he showed very obvious signs that he fails and panics under pressure, and that he needs anger counseling. His maturity could also be brought to question as well. This all simply from viewing the way he spoke, his mannerisms, and his actions in the games played.

[mild thunder]

me when i meet supatease

im only partly kidding

I am actually scared for the dude. One thread, okay but I am seriously concerned regarding this kid’s mental health. If he’s got no one to reach out to, the suicide hotline is there for him.

[honest sundial]

lmao

[elfin surge]

The fact that you resort to doing this and I have been watching you carefully do this must show how pathetic your life is with your boosted glad wins. You must be really sad in life. Do you not have friends or family at all? Maybe seek out help from them regarding your mental illness?

I am actually scared for the dude. One thread, okay but I am seriously concerned regarding this kid’s mental health. If he’s got no one to reach out to, the suicide hotline is there for him.

[tawny elm]

if even i can get to 1800 on my warrior this is true

[tawny elm]

lmao

[teal hedge]

What is blud waffling about

Been a hot minute since we could just dominate everything

[north thicket]

Hey what happens if you craft the pvp boots with the pve crest (aspect) rather than the trophy of conquest?

[teal hedge]

Smh my head dead class dead game

The way they nerfed skullsplitter

Literally unplayable

[tawny elm]

dont think i encountered one arms warrior while doing SS so i was starting to think i probably should switch to fury

[mild thunder]

what is blud waffling about

[tawny elm]

about every second lobby had fury in it

[teal hedge]

It's cause its the easier and slightly more viable spec.

[tawny elm]

hmm ok

should have gone with it from start then so i could have gotten my tmog sooner

[teal hedge]

Just stick arms

It'll feel better to steez on em that way

[glacial shale]

Let's bring them both the ground, or so I heard 27min ago 🎣

[teal hedge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/15ln235/solo_shuffle_not_all_rating_is_created_equal/

[tawny elm]

hehe

[teal hedge]

Sure is what the reddit thinks

[boreal stone]

I replied to that post

And got downvoted for saying mage is easier than warrior

😂

[glacial shale]

Reddit

kek

[honest sundial]

how is warrior cord is that active this early in the morning

u guys ok?

[mild thunder]

is thugrip the same as thogrey?

[teal hedge]

Sure, the rotation is a little more advanced

[boreal stone]

That subreddit is actually fucking ridiculous

[teal hedge]

But mage is fundamentally one of the easiest classes rn

[boreal stone]

Literal 12 hundo rats with knees for hands speaking about the game

[glacial shale]

Holy fuck these guys are actually malding

I thought it was a joke

[honest sundial]

cope

[teal hedge]

mud.,....

[boreal stone]

Frozen orb, icelance

[north thicket]

who is thogrey btw? I was browsing some pvp vids for some alts, he has flooded youtube with these

[boreal stone]

Ray shimmer 2x

[mild thunder]

as someone that no longer plays warrior or caster, this is now fun very to watch

[boreal stone]

Ice floes glacial

= win

[mild thunder]

idk, he makes some... subpar video guides

[honest sundial]

casting ice lance is hard

[mild thunder]

still better than flarkness

[honest sundial]

u need to be in rage

range

only 40 yards

[north thicket]

Yeah, indeed, subpar videos, I can't stand more than 2mins of these

[mild thunder]

he seems nice tho, so i wont talk too much shit

fuck flarkness tho

bro is actually baiting with his "guides"

[teal hedge]

Fax, should be map-wide

[boreal stone]

Nice guy making videos on classes he hasn’t mastered

[north thicket]

Yeah, seems so

[teal hedge]

Just like me, fr

[mild thunder]

well he probably thinks he's close to mastered it

[boreal stone]

We need mag to put out an actual warrior guide

[mild thunder]

better than the casual bg players that release guides kekw

[boreal stone]

I would even edit it for him

Let me get on that rn actually

[mild thunder]

doesnt he do the google doc?

[boreal stone]

He has his builds in a google doc. I haven’t really felt the need to look at a war guide tho tbh

[north thicket]

Why doesn't Mag post guides? I haven't seen him in any AWC too (not that I am keeping up regularly

[boreal stone]

I just get called bad and told what to do by other, better warriors

[mild thunder]

yea no cap if you need a comprehensive warr guide

idk what to say

you're senile

[charred onyx]

as a warrior i never try to talk about how easy other classes are but i sure do complain about whatever beat me on the day

[teal hedge]

I mean, yeah

Warrior is just something you figure out on your own

But you can also learn a lot from watching top players

(I learned the sks-setup from watching MUD)

[glacial shale]

I don't feel like many things are unbalanced, Enh has some crazy burst but it's playable, only Aug is a real issue to me in 3s idk, i'm just starting my PvP journey though on DF, only 1k8 range

[honest sundial]

warrior is easy all u have to do is use your sword

mage u have to use spells

[teal hedge]

I can't spell

[tawny elm]

must say that SS suits working from home perfect. you queue up, work and then you get a break whenever your lobby is up

[charred onyx]

whatever is beating me today is the thing that should be nerfed is my philosophy

[boreal stone]

Aug dk is actually retarded

Aug arcane mage is even more retarded

[mild thunder]

yea im being partly sarcastic but yea warr is very intuitive

there's not a lot of nuance

[north thicket]

mages are linguistics olympic champions

[mild thunder]

like sv or rogue or something

[north thicket]

200+ iq

[mild thunder]

it's very straightfoward, what we get is what we have

[thick reef]

Fuck I love warrior

I’d fight any weak cunt that says otherwise

[teal hedge]

This goon gets it

[boreal stone]

Warrior skill floor is one of the lowest

[mild thunder]

^

[glacial shale]

I don't think anybody will say that you don't like warrior dw brother

[boreal stone]

But honest to for the skill ceiling is one of the highest

[mild thunder]

arms skill ceiling is not as high as it used to be either

[thick reef]

Thanks lil bro

[north thicket]

My noob opinion is that what separates good from bad warriors is anticipation and reading enemy

[mild thunder]

the more utility its lost the lower the skill ceiling has become

[boreal stone]

Nah, it’s just the way u use ur utility

[charred onyx]

its zugging harder

[boreal stone]

Yeah, I agree with that

I feel like arms still has all the utility

[mild thunder]

s1/s2 skill ceiling was a lot higher SL

[north thicket]

Warriors main dif is avoiding to be CCed, mages main dif is placing CCs

[boreal stone]

Fury obviously doesn’t have any left

[mild thunder]

fury is literally just a W machine

[charred onyx]

i miss fury bladestorm

[mild thunder]

no bladestorm, no parry, no banner, no overwatch, cant really intervene

[thick reef]

Fury is fun but fuck it gets boring quick

[wheat jay]

Easiest spec

And crazy strong

[mild thunder]

very

[wheat jay]

Tho slam build feels weird

[mild thunder]

it's strong for how easy it is, but i dont think it's that strong overall

[teal hedge]

I only leveled with fury and I felt like a shmuck

[fallen solar]

DH actually has a high skill ceiling

[teal hedge]

So I hopped on da arms

[mild thunder]

im never really scared of fury warrs

imo the gap between uhdk, ww and sv and the rest of melee is kinda big

feral and ret are both good too

and sub

[north thicket]

So fury is like 7th but crazy strong

[tawny elm]

heard that sv is one of the harder specs

[boreal stone]

https://check-pvp.fr/us/Stormrage/Thugrip

Average forum poster

[charred onyx]

DH is easier to do damage than warrior but dh is far more skill intensive on surviving. its so easy to tell when a dh doesnt know how to stay alive

[boreal stone]

BASED

[wheat jay]

Sv giga high ceiling tho

[fallen solar]

Survival is definitely hard but strong as shit

I main it

[thick reef]

Yea truth bad DH dies in so fkn quickly it’s insane

[mild thunder]

the highest

[north thicket]

I would definitely play sv if it wasn't a pet class

[mild thunder]

and it's not even close

[wheat jay]

True pets suck

[mild thunder]

hard disagree

it doesnt get easier than fury

[wheat jay]

I recorded some games galachad

[mild thunder]

on sv?

[wheat jay]

But theyre 1,6gb xD

Ye

2s

[mild thunder]

do you reckon you can send them?

[charred onyx]

idk in pve where damage is king, i definitely think dh is easier

[wheat jay]

Nope

[fallen solar]

2s tbh it’s crazy

[wheat jay]

File too big

[mild thunder]

is it one big video?

[wheat jay]

I could show you on stream tho

[mild thunder]

that'd work

[glacial shale]

Dh is easier in PvE

[wheat jay]

5min video is 1.6gb xD

[glacial shale]

and better atm

[wheat jay]

I can show when im home

[mild thunder]

depends on aoe/single-target... both are incredibly easy conceptually but dh has more mechanical requirements

[fallen solar]

I found a mistweaver monk in 2s and I was 0 eating and we both went 10 games without losing. Playing over 1400 rating people starting at basically 0 rating

[mild thunder]

esp since you have to upkeep momentum

[fallen solar]

Rating*

[north thicket]

How many keybinds does a good sv have? Like not bloated, clean and slate

[mild thunder]

sounds like a plan... i'll probs be around

[wheat jay]

@mild thunder will you be on in like 6-7h

[charred onyx]

i forgot they re added momentum. i guess in pvp its big but i had heard people dont even use it in dungeons atm

[mild thunder]

that's a bit far down the line, but probably

[fallen solar]

It’s not even that. It’s the kiting

It’s the play style

[charred onyx]

so i cahnge my mind. because the meta fury pvp build is bloodthirst oriented and dh has momentum

[wheat jay]

I meaaaan

[fallen solar]

It’s the traps it’s a lot of things

[mild thunder]

personally i have like ~54, but i use focus and party123 macros and stuff

[wheat jay]

I finish work in 6h xD

And man got a 5min game where my heal juked feral like 20 times xD

[thick reef]

Whaddya have on 123? Might get my surv up

[wheat jay]

He got interrupted ONCE

[mild thunder]

RoS, misdirection, command pet

[thick reef]

Cheers lad

[wheat jay]

Nothing

[mild thunder]

you can run arena123 for scatter, chimaera etc but i just use main and focus

[wheat jay]

Only focus and mouseovers xD

[mild thunder]

gigachadd

[mild thunder]

ig that's preference, i dont like using @mouseover if i can avoid it

[thick reef]

Yea @mouseover always fucked me hard lmao

[mild thunder]

i just use R command pet, alt+R party 1, shift+R party 2 etc.

[thick reef]

Love me 123

[teal hedge]

Scrollwheel, babyyyy

[mild thunder]

i'll be around

that's my action bars for sv

[teal hedge]

Horde 😔

[mild thunder]

dont look too hard at the keybinds, a lot of stuff is macro'd weirdly on iCue to use different keys

[boreal stone]

It’s not centered

My eyes

Holy fuck

[mild thunder]

lmao it is, it's just not my whole screen

[teal hedge]

What

[boreal stone]

Oh

[mild thunder]

imagine not centering your UI 💀

[charred onyx]

steamers should uncenter their uis to bother people

and pretend they dont see it

[limber relic]

😂😂😂

[mild thunder]

there was one guy i saw on YT that had his action bars halfway up his screen

[charred onyx]

i leave a gap between the bottom action bar and the bottom of the screen

[mild thunder]

yea that's not too bad

bicmex does that

[teal hedge]

Doesn't the miestro do that as well?

[mild thunder]

i wouldnt take ui advice from mies

[teal hedge]

The mies is so cooked it's actually insane

[teal hedge]

! Another worgen player

Huge

[boreal stone]

My ui gets a bit messy

[charred onyx]

took this screenshot back in season one when doing keys

[mild thunder]

pretty standard ui

[mild thunder]

this is a troll

im not taking the bait

[boreal stone]

Nah, that’s my legit UI

[mild thunder]

there's no shot

[boreal stone]

Just took the SS at a perfect time

For omega eye aids

[north thicket]

only a real gamer can play that shit :))))

[mild thunder]

bro is tryna play a korean mmo with a UI like that

[mild thunder]

[teal hedge]

Can't even see what raid they're doing

[charred onyx]

i thought it was an AV

[thick reef]

Gotta get the WOW UI jumper fr

[teal hedge]

I'd say icc

But I'm not sure

[thick reef]

goes so fkn hard....

[glacial shale]

This is legit fire

[teal hedge]

It's ULDUAR!

[mild thunder]

frost giant fight?

[thick reef]

i love it

[teal hedge]

Yeah

[boreal stone]

I swear the only troll part about my Ui is nameplate CDs

I need to sit down and filter some of the abilities

[mild thunder]

and this

[teal hedge]

I only have Gex

But I'm thinking of getting bigdebuffs or whatever it's called

[mild thunder]

i like how all this is placed

[boreal stone]

Yessir

[teal hedge]

Actually makes sense

[wheat jay]

Clean

[wheat jay]

I hate such layout

Perfect for pvp ngl

But i pve more than I pvp xD

[mild thunder]

yea that's fair

i have 2 different edit modes, one for pve and one for pvp

[teal hedge]

I mean, it's not very aesthetically pleasing

[mild thunder]

pve moves my raid frames to the far left of my screen

[teal hedge]

And I just put enemy bars on the right half of my screen and my allies on the left

[mild thunder]

[boreal stone]

I use the same layout for PvE and PvP 😂

PvE is so easy, it doesn’t fuckin matter

[mild thunder]

true

[boreal stone]

I didn’t even have dbm or anything and got ksm and AOTC like 5th week

[mild thunder]

ksm is so 😴

[charred onyx]

ksm has dropped even farther than it already was though. it only requires 13s now

[mild thunder]

they need to add more rewards/rating ceilings for m+ to actually give a reason to push

[glacial shale]

AOTC and KSM first week or afk

[mild thunder]

you should get a m+ recolour of tier for getting like 3k rating

[deft wharf]

3k should give you an enchant of some sort

a dumb ground mount for ksm and some tier colors are w/e

[charred onyx]

ya i just grab the portals for timing 20s and stop because there is no reason to go past that

[deft wharf]

that or they go whole hog and instead of a recolor do a pve "elite" set

[opal acorn]

Cm like sets and weapons pls

[deft wharf]

get the guy who did wod warrior pvp elite set on it

[mild thunder]

there's no reason to even get portals now that dungeons are seasonal lol

[charred onyx]

idk there might be a use for it at some point

[mild thunder]

would be cool, but i doubt they'd ever add a completely unique set for m+ every season

even though m+ deserves it for singlehandedly carrying wow endgame

[glacial shale]

I mean, tmogfarming and going around the world faster is still useful

but ye

[charred onyx]

atleast a recolor and giving mounts equal to pvp and raid in terms of being dragonridable would be nice for m+ atleast

[mild thunder]

im also getting tired of dragonriding, no cap

just let me afk fly so i can alt-tab

[charred onyx]

i dont mind it at all. its nice, they should add it everywhere and keep regular flying as well

[teal hedge]

It's novel, but I don't really fw it

[mild thunder]

it was cool at first

[charred onyx]

its a pretty popular mechanic

[mild thunder]

now it feels like a chore

[glacial shale]

Idk not really

[mild thunder]

it should just be a toggle

[glacial shale]

it's just there

and useful to fly around

the only downside is that there is no "regular" flying

but it's a design choice they made, and it's not necessarily the worst, people enjoy it

[charred onyx]

well if it becomes available everywhere then that means blizzard has decided more people like it than dislike it

[mild thunder]

not really

they implied from the very beginning that it would stay after DF

[charred onyx]

they said they were gonna keep it for just this expansion and based on feedback they might make it more available to other places. thats what they said at the start

[mild thunder]

are you sure?

[charred onyx]

i played the beta and followed it a lot

[mild thunder]

beta 🤓

[charred onyx]

it was something they were willing to expand on but would also be willing to keep locked to DF if it failed. similar to borrowed power systems got left behind

although i have no clue if they actually are gonna make it available in older content or not

[mild thunder]

they already are

with the kalimdor cup and stuff

[charred onyx]

oh i stopped following the wow news after the game launched

[mild thunder]

bro's only a part-time beta

[charred onyx]

ya

[boreal stone]

Imagine just for a moment if u could farm old glad mounts if ur at current glad level

So many ppl would play and push rating

[mild thunder]

stop

no

[charred onyx]

with the way they are re releasing items and mounts that were previously similar to old glad mounts. its possible

[mild thunder]

imagine if we gave people full gold cap for getting 1800, imagine how many people would pvp

[charred onyx]

i dont agree with it but they are goin in that direction

[mild thunder]

not really, they're explicitly not going in that direction... they're going in the direction of giving ripoffs of old time-locked cosmetics

[boreal stone]

Hey guys, did 2 time rifts and got my wrathful glad mount. Gg ez (I wasn’t even alive in wrath)

[charred onyx]

ripoff versions of old glad mounts

also time locked is the term i was looking for in my head

i always forget things at the most inconvienent times

[mild thunder]

i have all the words

my words are the best words in the history of words, maybe ever

[teal hedge]

Cept "Footy shorts"

[mild thunder]

kiss your son

[charred onyx]

ill forget what bears are called when trying to explain to someone about a bear and it will take me walking away to remember it.

[mild thunder]

roe jogan wouldnt forget the bears

[charred onyx]

hell ya

he can communicate with them

[teal hedge]

Joe Rogan is actually cooked

He's like an old tribal lord caputring scholars in order to get educated

[grand scaffold]

i kinda like joe rogan

[teal hedge]

And he just believes everything they say

[charred onyx]

hes blasted with weed all the time for sure

[grand scaffold]

he is gullible but sometimes his podcast is pretty funny

[mild thunder]

scholars is an incredibly generous word to describe the people he talks to

[grand scaffold]

yeah

thats true also

mostly shroom users

[teal hedge]

Yeah

"Tell Leader Joe how Star work"

[grand scaffold]

🤣

[charred onyx]

i used to listen to him all the time but there are times where he has too many of the same people on and they talk about the same stories

[grand scaffold]

or tell him about a cannible tribe

in a far off land

[mild thunder]

if im gonna listen to a rogan episode, id rather just listen to/read something of the actual person he's interviewing

[teal hedge]

Only podcast I liked was

uhhh

The midnight gospel

Goes hard

[charred onyx]

work gets super boring so i always look for long form audio content to distract me while i doing things

[grand scaffold]

idk

i usually just watch the yt shorts

[teal hedge]

Midnight gospel had me weeping

[mild thunder]

i used to listen to pordan jeterson podcast when i was a teenager working

[grand scaffold]

his ones with that hillbilly guy are funny af

😂

[teal hedge]

Other than midnight gospel I've never really listened to a podcast

Oh wait, maybe Jschlatts

That and some podcast about pies in Sweden or whatever

[charred onyx]

do you speak swedish

[mild thunder]

im now interested

[mild thunder]

ikea

meatbolles

[teal hedge]

They spoke about how the pie was introduced to the swedish woodworkers

[mild thunder]

stockholm syndrome

[charred onyx]

and they got fat

[teal hedge]

And how it was to live as a young woman that just moved out in one of these woodworking-sites

Pretty rad

That and we have a myriad of podcasts called "Sommarprat"

Where a celebrity just talks about their youth

[mild thunder]

i listen to RP podcasts that teach me how to get women

[teal hedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvqn1cuRQcY&ab_channel=BamZse

Hooooly shit

[charred onyx]

you need a van and some other items for that one i believe

[teal hedge]

Pewdiepie on the Sommarprat

[charred onyx]

he is swedish

[mild thunder]

the secret is chloroform

[charred onyx]

ah

[teal hedge]

I can't stand his accent

[mild thunder]

pewdiepie is cringe af

[teal hedge]

NO WAY

He's from the capital (Gothenburg) yet he still sounds weird

What the hell

[charred onyx]

last i ever saw him in a video was he i guess collaborated with drdisrespect and docs chat told him to mention the bridge

[teal hedge]

He might actually be the most famous swedish person alive

Or maybe Zlatan

[mild thunder]

bruh

bicmex

[teal hedge]

No way is he from Sweden

[mild thunder]

he is the Swede

[teal hedge]

HE HAS THE ACCENT

[mild thunder]

i have an australian accent

[charred onyx]

who is bicmex

[mild thunder]

God

[teal hedge]

How does it sound when you say "Oh no"

[mild thunder]

idfk how to spell that out

"O nO"

[teal hedge]

Auwrrr naurr

[mild thunder]

nah

[charred onyx]

i just looked it up. yall were joking about that

[mild thunder]

that's more of a cringe white girl accent, not an aussie accent

[teal hedge]

VB LONGNECK

That's my reference for the aussie accent

[mild thunder]

there's 3 tiers of aussie accents

the lower class "bogan" accent like the VB longneck guy

the upper class twat accent from people like cate blanchett or geoffrey rush

and then the average australian that sounds more like hugh jackman

[thick reef]

Or ur from Adelaide and sound uk

[mild thunder]

or you're from adelaide and sound like a retard

because you're from adelaide

i lived down there for a few months and remember all the kids at my school trying to sound posh by saying commAHnd, and chAHnce and shit

while they collectively had 2 teeth

[teal hedge]

Sorta like how people from Stockholm sound like whiney children

And how people from Gothenburg sound friendly and hearty

[thick reef]

I bet you lived up north or down south since you live in perth now Galachad

Perth is such a shit hole

[mild thunder]

perth? why tf do people think i live in perth

i lived like 5 minutes from the barossa valley

[thick reef]

AHAHAHHHAHHA I dunno you give off perth energy

[mild thunder]

so yea south adelaide iirc

[thick reef]

Boong

HahahhahH

[mild thunder]

if you arent from sydney, you're not a real australian

[thick reef]

Nah fuck Sydney I went a couple years back for defqon and fuck it’s trash

Shit place to raise a family

[mild thunder]

yea too expensive

better than melbourne tho

https://tenor.com/view/flirt-flirty-bearded-beard-gif-5303381

do you really want your son to grow into this?

[thick reef]

yea

ur fkn right man

FUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[grand scaffold]

played a game on fury

remembered why i dont play it

🤣

[magic wing]

My son will be a warrior main just like me

Forced to be a gymbro from the age of 10

[thick reef]

^^^ warrior mindset.

[teal hedge]

Yeah, there seems to be an overlap of people that lift and people that play warriors

But using words like "gymbro" is such an ick

[magic wing]

Used the word "ick" is such an ick

[teal hedge]

Fax

But toss me a bone

It's a little cringe

[mild thunder]

saying cringe is such an ick bruh

[teal hedge]

God forbid a man do anything

[mild thunder]

invoking God is so cringe bro

[thick reef]

bismallah

[teal hedge]

Forbid a man do anything

[mild thunder]

playing victim is wack

but you do you

[teal hedge]

Forbid

[ancient sonnet]

So dumb question but haven't played since Shadowlands. Does Fury change stances now or do you just sit in D stance?

[thick reef]

berk stance

[magic wing]

Dick stance

[sharp meteor]

One lobby is 2400 healers one of which is 2700 3s

next lobby both healers at 1750 and have never been above duelist

I think that they need to buff healer mmr a bit so it's more played, yep

[teal hedge]

Give every healer a million dollars

[thick reef]

healers are paid by the rothschild family to ensure that you lose.

[mild thunder]

i thought it was joe biden DDOSing me

https://tenor.com/view/walking-with-eagle-joe-biden-walking-confidently-flying-eagle-walking-with-confidence-gif-18750703

[thick reef]

Barnaby joyce is holding us back

we gotta stomp him out asap

[mild thunder]

bob katter is holding me back

https://tenor.com/view/bob-katter-blossoms-bloom-gif-23584162

the duality of every aussie man

[thick reef]

hes a funny cunt

[mild thunder]

same-sex marriage? nah, we gotta stop the alligators from eating people

[thick reef]

FUCKINN CROCCSSS

[sharp meteor]

Can trade cross realm now, I wonder if it works in the shuff

[mild thunder]

i remember when he called for forced conscription for 18year old boys in qld

like

5 years ago lol

[thick reef]

hes sshivering everynight in fear of china

GET THESE BOYS IN THE ADF NOW!

[mild thunder]

at least he's funny

unlike clive palmer

just... weird

bro tried soooo hard to be australia's trump

[thick reef]

lmao clive palmer is a piss take

hahahah wow what a character

[mild thunder]

i wish someone would piss on him

[north thicket]

How bad is Shadowflame Wreathe (wpn enchant) for pvp?

[north thicket]

Hahahahha...... I found out that I couldn't read or write

[sharp meteor]

Nerfed by 55% a few weeks ago which makes it unplayable unless maybe you're a tank.

and even then I think sophic is better for most of them

[north thicket]

Oh owow

wowhead hadn't noted that

What a mess, one has to spend like hours to find out the real pvp multipliers

[sharp meteor]

They did, you're looking at the wrong thing.

I don't know why they nerfed shadowflame, though.

It was only okay for like dw dot specs like assa/havoc or dw tanks, maybe 1h tanks

even then sophic probs better because it's 20% more powerful in pvp (formerly 25%)

[glacial shale]

It was picked for Monk

which is fairly strong

so maybe it's an indirect nerf to that

even so, it's a stretch

[grand scaffold]

d stance

(dementia) stance

[teal hedge]

Isn't this the guy that got an egg cracked on him?

[grand scaffold]

😂

idk

[teal hedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fDzLGDTMqc&ab_channel=WTHR

Some other guy

Looks a little like bezos

[sharp meteor]

Was worse for monker before imo due to their dmg profile

Sick for brew tho

but yeah probs dead enchant now

[charred onyx]

feels bad. walked to fridge for ice and que popped and expired

[teal hedge]

Murphy's law 😔

Wait, prideful

[charred onyx]

we gotta stop this murphy guy

[teal hedge]

ou based in NA or EU?

[charred onyx]

na

[teal hedge]

Too many people on NA, oy vey

[ancient sonnet]

So sporecloak over mastery embellisment for a fresh war right?

[charred onyx]

why can unholy dks act like survival hunters now lol they chains of icing and throwing 80k death coils at me

[sharp meteor]

Mastery over 90% thing can be really good or really bad depending on matchup.

If you're not cleaved and more or less left alone then it'll be up all game

with certain healers or cleave/rot heaver teams it's up like 10% of the time

[charred onyx]

whats that annoying cc imunity called after someone messes up a kick

nvm i found t he name

[west mural]

[charred onyx]

oh i thought precognition was baseline lol didnt know it was a pvp talent.

8% away from my snail

[limber relic]

guys, off topic question but does anyone have any tip how to grow as a streamer? 😄

[charred onyx]

find react streamers, donate money to try and get them to watch a video or clip with your stream plugged in it

not a streamer but i saw that idea on a youtube video before. idk if it works though

[ancient sonnet]

It's not a pvp talent anymore. It's an embellishment now

[teal hedge]

Maybe consistancy?

[charred onyx]

eek

[limber relic]

i stream literally every day 17-22 nowadays 😄

[teal hedge]

Oh shit

Well, you got the game down

Not really sure

What I did notice was that nothing attention-grabbing happened between games?

(Not trying to be rude at all)

[limber relic]

ye i agree

the life of pvp rn

[teal hedge]

Bigger streqmers I see have some kinda minigame inbetween

[limber relic]

what kinda minigame

[ancient sonnet]

Or multiple accounts queued up

like doing 2s on one while wating for SS pops

[teal hedge]

Iunno, just interactive, that or they're just reaction andirs

*andies

Maybe some music as well?

Zenlyn, an OK sized priest streamer only has music

[muted surge]

Stop sitting 4h in queue and complain less about the people you play with. Portrays you in a very unlikeable way

[limber relic]

right thankjs

i rarely complain but yea

[muted surge]

You did the few times I watched

I still remember the poor holy priest

Also, best way to grow is to hijack more popular streamers by playing with them

Gets you more attention than being on the low end of twitch

Where no one ever checks

[limber relic]

hahaha i mean ofc it happens once or twice but i honestly dont do it vvery often

[charred onyx]

honestly lean into a super toxic mentality like that one holy paladin that constantly gets banned

[muted surge]

or like dekel

[teal hedge]

Mies?

[muted surge]

but hes not popular either, so prob not

[charred onyx]

no i cant remember his name rn but he was this super ripped dude that just was crazy angry all the time

[teal hedge]

Yeah

The miestro

Crusader

[charred onyx]

yaaa

crusader

never heard him called mietro

he was entertaining to watch youtube clips about when he wasnt banned

[teal hedge]

Yeah

He's so cooked

[charred onyx]

you think hes on some type of drug or is he just that psycho

[teal hedge]

Honestly? I think he got it from his mother and sister

[charred onyx]

he looked like european or something

[teal hedge]

Breton-heritage

[charred onyx]

eastern european

[teal hedge]

Watched him throw around weights whilst queueing, as well

[teal hedge]

huh

[charred onyx]

idk

[teal hedge]

I'd bet more on something germanic

[charred onyx]

thats kind of east

middle

[teal hedge]

Either english, german or norwegian, is my guess

Maybe even irish

Hard to conclude, really

[lucid walrus]

mes does this little crossword thingy during his subathons iirc

chat gets to play along and put in words that fit. i don’t remember the name

[charred onyx]

im betting russian after looking at his face again. atleast part russian

[ancient sonnet]

I imagine WoW would be a hard game to get into streaming tbh. I dunno how many viewers there are to go around to the lesser known streamers

[teal hedge]

If only his surname was public

[charred onyx]

Price's law is in everything

[teal hedge]

HE HAS A PUBLIC SURNAME

OWENS

It's irish!

[charred onyx]

ah

makes the most sense

[teal hedge]

Yeah

Red hair and all

[charred onyx]

fuck i should have noticed it because of how white the dude is

[wheat jay]

Well you got boomers for ppl like bajheera and rich banana kids for pikaboo

That's all

Pick your poison

[charred onyx]

im not old and i like bajheera

although im not much of a stream watcher

just like his attitude

[teal hedge]

^

I like his workout-stuff

[west mural]

any1 got a nice weakauras setup?

[wheat jay]

Well cuz bajheera won in life

Got wife, kid, plays games, won bodybuilding comps

[teal hedge]

Amazing physique he has

[wheat jay]

Man's a dragon ball fan too

[teal hedge]

Oh yeah!

[wheat jay]

Successful nerd basically

[teal hedge]

Sweden has a 72 year old streamer that plays wow

[wheat jay]

Which is what everyone playing wow aspires for

[charred onyx]

i would try to stream but i know for damn sure nobody wants to watch me

best to just play the game and work

[teal hedge]

So true bestie

Praying that my interview goes well on tuesday

If it does, it's wow-time, babyyy

[wheat jay]

Baldur time for me soon

Got squad

[teal hedge]

Oh shit

[charred onyx]

my only friend that would play baldur, cant play it on his pc

[teal hedge]

All I've seen from Baldur's gate is batshit insane

The bear

[charred onyx]

i just had a sudden urge to drink but i gott work tonight

[teal hedge]

This guy is so real

Last time I drank was a real shit experience

The vibes were off and my vodka was nicked

[charred onyx]

i would totally drink and play baldurs gate with friends if they actually would buy the game

[teal hedge]

This guy gets it

I'd love to drink rum and play Sea of Thieves sometime

But my friends, they are as weak in spirit as they are in mind

[charred onyx]

theres 2 types of complainers in solo shuffle. the type thats like me and calls everything op or something in particular op and the type that blames their teamates for them being the only one to go 0/6

[teal hedge]

I like the ones that flame me the most

[charred onyx]

i usually keep my complaining to a one off comment

because im just angry

[teal hedge]

They just tell me to uninstall in broken english

[charred onyx]

this hpally lost one round because i didnt intervene him in time and wanted to blame the whole lobby for him going 1/6 lol

at best he lost one round because of me but that doesnt make up for the 3 times i beat him

[sharp meteor]

Me politely asking the DH to stop breaking my BG for no reason every time Fel Rush is up

Also why is Arcane allowed

[charred onyx]

whats bg? i dont recognize that abbreviation

[sharp meteor]

Bodyguard. Basically perma 40% physical wall as long as you remain within 20 yards.

[charred onyx]

oh your a prot paladin

[teal hedge]

Oh yeah

[sharp meteor]

I haven't actually tried Paladin yet.

[teal hedge]

I've had people book it from me as soon as I intervene

[sharp meteor]

It looked kind of unfun.

[charred onyx]

only 3 more SS wins and my snail is obtained

[teal hedge]

"only"

[charred onyx]

ill be asleep before i even get my 3rd que

[teal hedge]

It's 19:37 here

[charred onyx]

was doing the math in my head to convert that time and realized i didnt need to because all i need to know is its late evening for oyu

its about 30 minutes past noon here where i am, im a nightshift worker

[teal hedge]

Ah

Honestly hope I get the night shift where I've applied

[charred onyx]

graveyards shifts usualyl pay better

[teal hedge]

Graveyards are owned by da church here

[charred onyx]

sorry the overnight shift is often referred to as graveyard shifts here

in my town

[teal hedge]

OOOOHH

Would fit my workout schedule, if I worked night

[charred onyx]

ya getting off early in the morning you can go for a run while the sun is still low

[teal hedge]

^

I just like my gyms silent

[charred onyx]

my work shift often has me playing with aussies

frostmourne in particular. only people online doing keys constantly after i get off work

[teal hedge]

Aren't aussies on the oceanian servers?

[charred onyx]

ya, na can still play with them

we get south america and australia in the group of servers to play with

[teal hedge]

Lucky

I get russian, french, german and spanish servers

[charred onyx]

ya them european servers

so many different countries

atleast english is kind of the universal language over there. non 100% but when i was in germany it was hard to not find a young person that spoke enlgish really well

ive always heard the russians are always the problem causers in other games for europeans

[sterile grove]

bro. nah

[teal hedge]

Yeah russians are often pretty poor when it comes to english

[charred onyx]

im more talking about ive been told russians are like the chinese cheaters in na servers

obviously its kinda hard to cheat in wow compared to like shooters

not saying its true

[fiery lily]

Ey how big is the diff between orc and human? I feel like blood fury + 10% cc reduction is better than double dps trinket + will to survive

[ancient sonnet]

Think gnome is the top race for alliance

[teal hedge]

Sorta? Some cheating russians in cs but they're mostly cool people

[fiery lily]

Yeah been thinking to roll a gnome to see if it can a make a difference i just couldnt stand looking at it, esp warrior class.

[ivory granite]

whats the arms rotation? since everyone is using hurricane rn

burst

[teal hedge]

MS > OP > MS

Oh the burst

Depends, really

You use skullcrusher?

[ivory granite]

no pretty much nobody does rn

actually lemme try

[teal hedge]

Haven't been able to play in a hot minute

[ivory granite]

yeah reight now skullsplitter is ass

[ancient sonnet]

Does it make sense to macro berserker stance into Recklessness? Just in case you forgot to change stances before bursting?

[ivory granite]

alright so whats the arms burst rotation

now

[charred onyx]

i dont think skullsplitter is that bad. its just not the best option. its still a good chunk of damage

[ivory granite]

i dont see anybody using it no more

[charred onyx]

because everyone uses whats best

but its not ass

[ivory granite]

and whats best

[charred onyx]

not skullsplitter

[ivory granite]

hurricane?

i see everyone usin hurricane

[charred onyx]

im a fury main so idk whats best but from the time ive used arms, skullsplitter is able to do some good damage still. people dropped it because they nerfed it from being a one hitter to a chunker

its just not usable to solo people, you need someone else to finish them off after you skullsplitter which isnt ideal

before the nerf you used it to kill people that were like 40% health

from the few times i used it atleast before the nerf. it felt like you could rip half a persons health bar when you pressed it

[ivory granite]

im a fury main too but im trying to go to arms as it feels way superior now

[lyric violet]

you guys think this is good?

like 2000crish on 2 wars with this build

[ivory granite]

whats ur rotation

bu7rst

[charred onyx]

ive been told fury is slightly better atm, i prefer fury because its more fun. only playing arms at all because dragonflight finally made arms a fun spec for the first time in forever to me

[ivory granite]

burst

[lyric violet]

mortal strike mash

LOL

[ivory granite]

whats the bursst..

[lyric violet]

the usual rotation just prio mortal strike

its literally the same

[ivory granite]

so basically fury just does way better dmg

[lyric violet]

no

i do more dam then every fury war ive played with the last week

[charred onyx]

arms is better at cleaving multiple targets, fury is a littel tankier with maybe slightly higher single target

[lyric violet]

maybe they just bad but idk

[charred onyx]

ya arms on overall should probably be ahead of fury because of the constant cleaving it does

[lyric violet]

if you have bleeds up on everyone you can

theres no way

you arent doing more dam

[ivory granite]

So on SINGLE target arms is worse

[charred onyx]

barely

probably

[lyric violet]

if at all

[ivory granite]

but in 2s arms is way better?

[lyric violet]

i thought fury was better in 2s

for just zug

since they have the root breaks

in odyns blood rage avatar etc

[ivory granite]

my arms burst si charge double overpower collosus thunder roar avatar+reck Mortal strike then click whatever pops up

is that a good burst

[lyric violet]

no

[charred onyx]

people have told me fury is just slightly better than arms in pvp in general but the difference is neglible imo

[ivory granite]

then whats a good one

[lyric violet]

get rend up first

hamstring

then avatar thundering csmash ms overpowers to fish for MS

then mash any ms procs first

charge hamstring rend/thunder clap avatar csmash ms overpowers fishing for MS

[ivory granite]

ah

[charred onyx]

honestly usually arms is considered better because they always get all the utility and fury only ever comes out on top because of damage i feel

[ivory granite]

yeah but fury is ur going against ppl who are good u get cced so damn much

its obnoxious

[lyric violet]

and if you have no over power or no ms either thunderclap or rend to fish for Over power proc

[ivory granite]

can you give me ur talent code

[lyric violet]

BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWikEJkkkSpkEAAAAQQkIgEUERDiEJhmEBhAkWCAAAAAAAAJRCCIENEA

[charred onyx]

i mean arms is gonna get ccd a ton too, bladestorm kinda helps but your not really gonna be heavy kill pressure with bladestorm anymore

[lyric violet]

im not amazing but im not terrible either

[ivory granite]

yeah but arms usually does more dmg due to cleave and bc fury gets target cced

[lyric violet]

so take that as you will

[charred onyx]

but it can break a root and prevent cc so you can finish a target with actual attacks

[lyric violet]

im no MUD

[fossil mortar]

Only MUD is MUD, he rerolled mage tho

[charred onyx]

i mean there will be a ton of bleed damage that is neglible i feel, lots of padding but arms probably does much better when you can stack 2 targets on top of each other liek double melee

[lyric violet]

They called him the betrayer.

https://tenor.com/view/illidan-bah-gif-10891728

[fossil mortar]

Mud will be back with the milk soon

[lyric violet]

[charred onyx]

anyways, gonna have to finish off my last 2 wins for the snail mount tomorrow

[fossil mortar]

Godspeed

[ivory granite]

bro wth

the rotation u gave me did less dmg than what i used to

pvp tals?

[fossil mortar]

PvP damage profiles don't work as PvE profiles. It is more about window potential than overall.

Also, make sure you test it on PvP dummies, in PvP combat. Or you get some wonky unnerfed abilities going on

[ivory granite]

yeah on the dummy its telling me i do far less dmg

[charred onyx]

just get your bleeds up and then do what you think is your best burst potential. the dummy also doesnt apply any pvp bonus damage buffs

[ivory granite]

oh wait ur right

it does way more dmg

i barely have 30% versa too im grinding for more versa gear

25%*

[fossil mortar]

[ivory granite]

i just messed the rotation

[fossil mortar]

Enjoy mah man

[ivory granite]

fury i reach 2 million damage on the target in 17 seconds with arms i hit 20 because low versa

old rotation hit 2M at 26 seconds

im excited to run arms soon

got 2 versa pieces within 1 hour

[lyric violet]

^^^

[opal acorn]

is there a reason healers at 1600 dont cc?

[west mural]

biggest ms i got so far when most buffs and planets align xD

[sharp meteor]

Because pushing in for cc in the depths is throwing the game.

Your blind gorilla teammates have no idea what's going on outside what they're hitting.

[opal acorn]

so annoying man

[sharp meteor]

Not as annoying as playing healer, though, lmao.

[north thicket]

How does Menace fit in nowadays? Never played it

[lyric violet]

I been thinking about switching the point tbh

[west mural]

isn't warrior's problem usually not being close to targets? xD

[lyric violet]

Well its good for peeling and for blades edge you can knock em off the bridge or out of position

[west mural]

vs melee cleaves and 1 arena, rly situational then

there's such a huge difference between arenas for me, i like blade's edge and hate nagrand

[north thicket]

Everytime I look at our talent tree I puke at reading Seismic Rev and Barbaric Training

You know, the 0.1% dps talents

[weak wedge]

Anyone wants to know the dumbest possible way to go 1-5 and lose 55 rating after starting with a win ? 😄

[teal hedge]

Probably like collapsing

[weak wedge]

Even dumber

[lyric violet]

Your gear was broken?

You had pve gear on?

[weak wedge]

Round 1 : no issues
Round 2 : get randomly stuck RP walking, autoturning, losing targets. Disconnect Xbox controller, no bueno
Round 3 : still stuck in waiting room, disconnect joystick and throttles from playing Flight Simulator earlier. WoW crash, get thrown into...
Round 4 : holy pala with like no CR at 2K mmr, 43 honor level or something, dies in a stun
Round 5 : same healer, gets demolished by a WW and Enh
Round 6 : Enh got a lucky roulette streak on MW healer

[lyric violet]

You play on a controller??

Thats wild

[weak wedge]

Ahah no

But it's connected as batteries are charging

And I played a few games with my kid earlier so all was still plugged in

[spice hornet]

what build is tren playing

RB?

tuned in reall late

[sinful sedge]

question which of the pinned pvp builds would you guys say you like the most?

[limber relic]

yoo @muted surge tysm ❤️

[ivory granite]

does fury warr outdamage paladin in burst

[wheat jay]

No

[ivory granite]

why

even with the 65% mastery

?

[wheat jay]

Because ret

Hits

Harder

During

Burst

[ivory granite]

does fury outheal ret?

[wheat jay]

No

[ivory granite]

so basically ret needs a nerf

[wheat jay]

Some would agree with that statement

Most even

Fury is more consistent damage

If you're on target you can easily do 60k+ dps on them

Full single target

[ivory granite]

fury or arms what is better in 2s]

[wheat jay]

Fury

[ivory granite]

really?

[wheat jay]

In most scenarios, yes

Better consistent dmg

Good braindead easy kit

Arms is not rocket science either

But fury is super easy to do well in 2s

[glacial shale]

Reached 1k8, going smoothly so far

I trust the process 💪

[hot solstice]

slam dream:

dead in 6 globals

[spice hornet]

Lmao

Eww

That’s like budget ww

[hot solstice]

damage on hunter btw

[spice hornet]

Seems sus

[fickle ice]

when did they fix battle trance and crushing blow

[mild thunder]

everything is budget ww when ww is just better lol

[spice hornet]

Facts

That slam build is more of a meme than no bladestorm

[rancid lance]

is it worth to make a shattering throw build for pally/mage? trying to figure out what to drop for it if its a good idea

[spice hornet]

Nah

[rancid lance]

word

[spice hornet]

It’s too slow of a cast

People either stop it or they’re topped anyway

[prime fern]

How can I check the highest players stats?

I suppose it's their PvE stats displayed on armoury

[sharp meteor]

Generally you'll get cc'd on it, they'll line, or best case scenario you shatter and your ms/bleeds/smash are all gone and so is your pressure.

[flat tide]

Magnusz has lost it

[lyric violet]

it feels so bad getting ur thunderous shout and cs bopped off the target 😢

[mild thunder]

idk man, seems like a pretty reasonable and balanced take to me

[mild thunder]

im honestly happy shatter is trash... wrecking is more unique and feels better for warr anyway

[teal hedge]

Aight

[mild thunder]

idk, i dont watch awc

[teal hedge]

Same

When was it?

[mild thunder]

but to be clear, you said outlaw was the best spec in the game, and so high iq that everyone was scared to play it... getting played in awc doesnt even remotely prove that

if that was the main claim you were making, sure you would be right

but you said it was THE BEST spec in the game, and also maximally IQ such to the point that no plebeian could play it

[teal hedge]

^

[scarlet flame]

i didn't watch it did it show up

howd it do

[teal hedge]

Who played it?

[scarlet flame]

yeah did they win

what match was it

who played it and did they win

[teal hedge]

K who played it

And did they win

I'm eating cat food rn

[scarlet flame]

yeah thanks for the 7 hour vod bro

what fuckin match was it

and did they win

[mild thunder]

yea, literally one team played it

that doesnt prove it's the best spec/overpowered

nor does it prove that it's particularly complex

this doesnt prove anything that you were saying

[teal hedge]

Kalvish ran it

And they wont both skirms

[scarlet flame]

where was GG in this did they lose lol

[teal hedge]

But causation =/= correlation

[mild thunder]

who cares? they also ran a boomy, doesnt mean boomy is overpowered or requires 200iq to play

[teal hedge]

GALA CHECK MY LATTER MESSAGES

I can't believe I've pledged myself to this man

[scarlet flame]

okay so klavish played it

and im pretty sure i told you that you watched klavish say it was op

[mild thunder]

man reading through that conversation actually hurts... how did you compress so many bad takes into such a short amount of time?

[scarlet flame]

because hes the only person who ever said it was "underrated"

so you watched a klavish stream

sucked his cock

and spread his seed everywhere

yeah you did

[mild thunder]

[teal hedge]

Only streamer I watch is this swedish guy called Danne

[scarlet flame]

hes the only person who ever said it was good

[teal hedge]

He's a divourced dad, I think

[scarlet flame]

yes you did

[teal hedge]

And all he does is fail m+ runs

[mild thunder]

based

[mild thunder]

ultra-based

[scarlet flame]

and hes playing with a boomkin

[mild thunder]

next you're gonna tell me he's 1600xp and cant clear normal raid

[scarlet flame]

so the spec doesn't even matter

yeah no you didn't

[teal hedge]

He's actually gotten to level 18 in m+ rn

[mild thunder]

which is still wrong lmao

[scarlet flame]

you watched klav and believed his shit

[teal hedge]

My man is popping off

[scarlet flame]

you care way more than i do blud

[mild thunder]

bro you're the one that came in here @ing people to try and claim a W

mfw it doesnt matter but i started it all because it matters to me