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hollow meadow
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shadowflame?

rotund trellis
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I got shadowflame I think yeah

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on one, I think mastery on the other? I play fury

hexed ether
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this ladder looking real warriorless right now. I'm so thankful they buffed slam so I could for at least 45 seconds, consider binding it.

amber heron
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IS IT BaD to cancel bladestrom now

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why dont we play slam

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its still bad

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?

dreamy moat
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infurious boots of vengeance or whatever they're called are mandatory

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second embellishment is whatever, some people run a shadowflame helm, others run sporecloak

dreamy moat
amber heron
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my macro stopped working for some reason

scarlet flame
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if you take hurricane you can't cancel bladestorm

dreamy moat
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which I don't know why, it's the dumbest fucking idea blizzard has done

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and they made a whole expansion around sylvanas

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but yeah, that's probably why you noticed you can't cancel it sometimes

elfin surge
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LOl what

elfin surge
dreamy moat
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wait

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is hurricane the thing that stops you from cancelling?

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oh my god it is

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what a fucking shit talent

hexed ether
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blizzard should let us cancel bs even if you have hurricane. theres zero reason for that mechanic to be in the game.

mild thunder
dreamy moat
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I wish I knew

mild thunder
thick reef
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ya its a build up is it not lol

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for the strength

mild thunder
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Exactly

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If you cancel it, you’re not gonna get much value out of it

thick reef
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^^

mild thunder
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If you channel it, you don’t get much value out of it keks

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15% str, wowowowowow soyyyyyyy

thick reef
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lmao fr

dreamy moat
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wdym I love 15% extra strength I get slowed with so I can't use it

mild thunder
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Wtb capstone talent that isn’t nerfed in PvP

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Battlelord is next

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Just wait

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10.1.7, battlelord proc chance nerfed by 50% in PvP

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The only unnerfed capstone left is gonna be dance of death critcake

scarlet flame
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why are links not working in discord now

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i updated it and now links dont bring me to the website

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mastery feels really good

scarlet flame
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who is this BRO

mild thunder
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It’s a regular name in his country

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Don’t be weird about it

muted surge
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If his country is Atlantis

scarlet flame
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mages are literally so boring to face

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@fallen solar get your fuckin hunter ready bro i need you to end some dress classes for me

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imagine a pvp talent being your second highest damage done in an arena

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warbringer nerfed by 60% because of its damage but not rof

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everyone has ranged kicks and im the retard with the most

unique fox
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I think arms kinda still fucking sucks tbh

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feels like i do no dam if i cant cleave

mild thunder
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The PvP talent system sucks fucking ass

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Virtually every spec in the game has at least 1-2 mandatorily locked in, 1 flex slot and 99% of the options are giga useless

kind sentinel
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i was really hoping that the spell reflect talent we got was going to be good into this caster meta

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but th extra cd on it is a hard meme

scarlet flame
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yeah its really trash

scarlet flame
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dks get free 8% damage

unique fox
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skullsplitter doesnt seem too bad but its a shadow of its former glory

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played with pres/aug and pres/sp but pretty much got farmed by moonkin comps

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SP's also felt bad

scarlet flame
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ur supposed to be good into sp

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i feel good into sp most of the time

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if my other 2 teammates are actually braindead

dreamy moat
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I miss when spell reflect reflected all spells during its duration

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what good is it when a demo lock is paying attention, uses demonbolt for reflect and coil afterwards

scarlet flame
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@wheat jay this why checkpvp stupid as fuck

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this is for my druid

wheat jay
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fair enough

fickle forge
scarlet flame
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i did and then it got my cr of ss wrong

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it also doesn't make any sense because i logged out yesterday at exactly 1700 cr for 2s, and it was saying 1517

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i was 1517 like 3 days ago

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@mild thunder im one of you now

mild thunder
scarlet flame
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getting it boosted rn

dreamy moat
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how it feels drinking my horrible protein shake knowing it will give me gains

opal acorn
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What is this cinematic

scarlet flame
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killrog deadeye drinks manoroths blood instead of grom

undone pumice
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at one point protein powder has to just be better than whatever disgusting "whole food" concoction you can come up with

jagged yew
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is there a reason I'm hearing people use slam more than whirlwind as a spender (only when capping rage and nothing else is up)

charred onyx
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i hate 70% spammable slows 😦

mild thunder
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76k slams on my undergeared fury? hmmmm

mild thunder
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you're rage-capped pretty much the entire game because rage econ is retarded

jagged yew
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oh

mild thunder
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there probably shouldnt ever be enough downtime in your rotation between op > ms spam and rend maintenance for you to press slam/ww

hexed ether
# mild thunder 15% str, wowowowowow soyyyyyyy

its 12% strength, also you can run double bladestorm. the first can get all the stacks and 5 sec later you can use the second bs for one tic to refresh the whole 12% and 30% speed for additional 6 sec. the reason you would want to cancel is to kick or cc.

jagged yew
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That might explain why I run out of rage at the worst times lmao

mild thunder
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and it is 15%

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the reason it sucks is because it's a super, super predictable stat ramp that literally anyone can just walk away from and prepare for... the buff itself only lasts 6 seconds long after bladestorm is finished, which is about 4 globals if you have 100% uptime on your rotation and are quick enough to press stuff on-gcd

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more realistically, they just walk away from bladestorm, you get very low uptime and are lucky to get a single global off with your str buff

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now you've traded away your bladestorm in hopes of the burst window that never was

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you can extend it by running BMT proc, but you're just going to be repeating the same problem twice in one window and you're going to be wasting half of your cs window

elfin surge
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I've been playing EP and its been treating me well.

mild thunder
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so 15% str on ~4 globals every 1min vs 10%-20% dmg on mortal strike more frequently and reliably

elfin surge
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If playing blademasters torment you can get the hurricane buff for 12 seconds at 6 stacks

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but not being able to cancel bladestorm is actually so annoyijg

mild thunder
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yea but 5 seconds of that is spent in the second bladestorm, so it's not really 12 seconds

elfin surge
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well no

mild thunder
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wait yea nvm, i get what you mean

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but that last 6sec will always be outside of cs

elfin surge
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I might try it into melee cleaves where I play thunderclap and blademasters

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could be good

mild thunder
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maybe into dks

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but even most other melee can kite pretty well, at least for 4s

elfin surge
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im just not really a fan of blademasters in the first place

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you need to save your sharpen for after avatar bs proc which feels... not great?

mild thunder
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reck proc more fun

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never feels shitty

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only thing i like about bmt is the off-gcd cc immunity

elfin surge
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yeah reck proc with EP and blunt instruments is some gnarly single target pressure

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actually feels like i have burst

mild thunder
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having to always trade bladestorm for dmg with hurricane is also so lame

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same thing i disliked about unhinged

wheat jay
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@elfin surge playing your build

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having fun

elfin surge
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Was fighting Rdruid sp dk and played thunder clap blademasters to do max damage

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wasnt able to pressure sp in shroom

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tried swapping off hots

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just wasnt doing anything

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went single target build

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and absolutely crushed the sp thru all hots

mild thunder
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still not as fun as just going brr on my ww tho

elfin surge
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idk man

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some games as tsg

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feel soo good

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sharpen + dk ms is a 62% healing reduction btw because they stack

mild thunder
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yea arms is just so repetitive game-to-game, not scratching that itch for me atm

elfin surge
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warbreaker apoc sharpen all 30s cd

mild thunder
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waiting for @spice hornet to hurry up with his dk

wheat jay
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LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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441ilvl

mild thunder
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which one are you

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ive heard you say you wanna reroll dh, arms and enh lately

elfin surge
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hes the evoker

wheat jay
mild thunder
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glad you rejected dh

wheat jay
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😄

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how can i not play this CHAD

worthy fern
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@wheat jay 👋

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No more hunter?

wheat jay
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still playing hunt

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doing turbo with james now

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for some fun and gearing

elfin surge
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Twinkiiz? weird

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oh god male blood elf

wheat jay
mild thunder
charred onyx
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woot woot ive calmed down and hit 1800 in solo shuffle for my transmogs

wheat jay
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gz

charred onyx
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now to grind regular arenas for the snail

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is it like 1% per win above 1k rating for the snail mount unlock

wheat jay
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no idea

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@elfin surge do i even get tier for pvp?

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seems useless xD

charred onyx
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either way ive got a long way for this snail mount. only started pvp again last week

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like 3 of the tier pieces have vers on them anyways

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no reason to not have it imo

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chest pants and gloves all get vers

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hm i only have 18% vers in pvp combat. maybe thats why i feel so squishy

wheat jay
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fair enough

undone pumice
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~3.5% for rbgs i think

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and like 1.5% for 3s

charred onyx
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solo shuffle seems to give a decent percent per win

spice hornet
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Would’ve been ready this week byt been house sitting for a family member bored out of my mind since Sunday

undone pumice
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house sitting

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w h a t

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"make sure my house doesn't starve or run off please"

mild thunder
muted surge
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Do you … actively watch the house?

charred onyx
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the house may have a pet. may be in an area where they dont want someone to break in because noones home or somethin

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my guess is there are pets

muted surge
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But even with pets

undone pumice
muted surge
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You go there once a day to feed them

charred onyx
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there are people that really dont want their pet to be alone

undone pumice
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i mean

muted surge
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Then they should have taken them with em

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Also

undone pumice
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i def wouldnt want some hellspawn 3lb pet to be alone in my home

muted surge
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What happens when they go shopping or work

charred onyx
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thats a much shorter time period

undone pumice
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only like 8hours

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not weeks

muted surge
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That’s why I say just check in once a day

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Should be fine

charred onyx
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its not an uncommon thing for some peopel to have another person stay in their house while they are on vacation

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i wouldnt have someone do it unless i lived in sanfransisco or la. one of those types of cities

undone pumice
charred onyx
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smaller cities are usually nicer places nowadays than the big cities imo

undone pumice
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big cities just suck

rotund trellis
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I run 2 shuffles with my druid, people tanked both after a game, -150cr, jesus fuck it's horrible

undone pumice
charred onyx
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yay im happy! they fixed this bug that had removed the transmog weapon [Hellscream's Pig sticker] from my options

rotund trellis
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third lobby guy shows up with a guardian druid with the mage tower form LOL

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fucking cancer on friday morning innit

charred onyx
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i forgot tanks can que into solo shuffle

rotund trellis
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they should just get out of their moms basement for once.

violet fossil
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sorry

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I’ll get out of my moms basement

rotund trellis
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if you have beers I'll join you there though

teal hedge
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Big question

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Which beers you rockin wit?

rotund trellis
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water, I don't actualy drink

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beer is too caloric

charred onyx
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so you lied

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your a liar

rotund trellis
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I like mike's tho

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like sugar free mikes

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or wine

charred onyx
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what beer does mike have

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i wish i could drink

teal hedge
rotund trellis
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ya

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I'm old tho

teal hedge
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Well, you drink wine :P

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Makes it easy to tell

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Only wine I like is mead

charred onyx
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i know of people my age that drink wine

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im like mid 20s

elfin surge
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i drink monster energy

teal hedge
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Wine is schnasty

charred onyx
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alchohol in general is nasty

teal hedge
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Love liquor

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Jäger, vodka

charred onyx
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nobody will convince me that beer or liquor tastes anything but horrible. its just for the effect. although liquor did kill my taste buds and now i can tolerate more foods that i used to hate eating

teal hedge
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Rum

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Scrumptious

charred onyx
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literally impossible

teal hedge
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Jäger is my favourite though

charred onyx
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i was more of a tequila and vodka

teal hedge
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Only thing that has gotten me to wobble

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Tequila is the worst

charred onyx
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tequila burns the worst but i eat spicy food all the time. probably why i already had to have my gall bladder removed

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im gonna dip out of this conversation. makes me wanna drive to the store right now and buy some

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but i shouldnt

rotund trellis
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I'm also fucking king of healing as well

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(at 1100 LOL)

charred onyx
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thats not a warrior

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where is our warrior healing spec at. shout at everyone to get their health back up

stable siren
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Fr fr imagine if rally cry gave u leach based on how much damage the warrior did in the buff uptime

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or how much rage spent instead

wheat jay
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so ye, did like 15 games of arms

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with close to 0 gear

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shit's fucking EAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASY

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xD

magic wing
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Build ?

sterile grove
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currently rollin around at 446 PvE ilvl but geared for fury single target dps. is it better just to make a 2nd warrior strictly for PvP vs PvP gearing my current warrior with 0 sparks

elfin surge
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good times...

magic wing
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the build in pins looks outdated

sharp meteor
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Idk how I ever lost a game with 6 second intervene and 1 minute big rally.

magic wing
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dont tell me ppl play SKS still

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over hurricane and EP

sharp meteor
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Uh, I thought sks was still decent. Maybe not.

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Certainly still feels jank.

magic wing
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Pika played something way different in new vid

elfin surge
lyric violet
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spore cloak or silk lining?

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im thinking cloak right?

sharp meteor
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Hm. Lining gets knocked off a lot, but it's a decent chunk of mastery.

stable siren
sharp meteor
lyric violet
stable siren
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just send it on cd

elfin surge
# magic wing the build in pins looks outdated

I can link you my builds

Normal (single target)

BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWiERCJJpUKJBAAAAEEJiGJBERjSkQSoJRQIARCAAAAAAAAJRiIgANEA

Aoe

BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWiERCJJpVKJBAAAAEEJCIBFR0oEJkEKSEECQkAAAAAAAAQSkICIENEA

elfin surge
lyric violet
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ty

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also

green wyvern
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is spear still binned

lyric violet
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are you guys just going all mastery?

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or you mixingit with haste

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rn i have about 20% haste 30% mast with the lining

elfin surge
lyric violet
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10-4 thanks boss

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you in a good mood since the buff Lol

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glad to see it

charred onyx
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why is skullsplitter bad? it doesnt do bad damage

elfin surge
charred onyx
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well it would make only your next attack not benefit because oyur likely pressing mortal strike right after. i dont see any other talents that do anything better

elfin surge
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the ideal skull splitter setup has you sharpen mortal strike right before you skull splitter

charred onyx
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i guess so but i dont see it as a bad talent personally, it just got a deserved nerfed at the start of the season, still feels alright to use

elfin surge
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yeah but what talents are you losing?

charred onyx
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i guess extra duration on sweeping strikes and massacre maybe

charred onyx
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since execute isnt a big hitter atm, massacre doesnt feel huge

elfin surge
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you play long sweeping?

charred onyx
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no but i dont see any other talents

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worth anything

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but i generally play fury so idk maybe im blind

elfin surge
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why not play the extra overpower damage talent

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thats with extra sweeping

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???

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overpower is a lot of our damage

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10% is a lot

charred onyx
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oh lol i forgot that existed

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i usually do mythic plus keys nowadays so i never take that talent

elfin surge
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If you're not changing your talents before every game you're losing a lot of potential

charred onyx
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well im only reason messing around with arms anyways

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for bgs and such

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feels so wrong that arms' bottom talents are all nerfed so hard in pvp

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although removing skullsplitter would make it easier for me to deal with the keybind conflicts i have when switching between arms and fury

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changed my mind, fuck skullsplitter keybind fix preferred

elfin surge
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Give us back some sort of fricking surviavbility. I’ll be in arcane, wait 30 minutes to get a pop, get a hunter in the lobby and die within a global. Mm hitting 160k aimed shot is not skilful, sv hitting 200k kill shot is not skilful. BM spamming kill command for 80k a pop is not skilful. Give mage some tankyness back for crying out loud. Even warriors can chase us down and kill us if they do it right. Give us a 70% wall that doesn’t replace block and doesn’t last 3 seconds

Mages need more love. With a resto druid healing me an mm 1 shots me. And boom I go 2-4 and lose 100 cr. Fix ur stuff blizz. Also arms war didn’t need that buff, they do not need to be doing 100k overpowered. Like wth overpower is a filler spell. Ok I finished rant. Please give me attention so I can have my ward back so I don’t get killed in .35 seconds because a hunter felt like it.

Peace.

charred onyx
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as a biased and unfair warrior, let the mages suffer the wrath of hunters for all eternity

magic wing
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what gems we rocking atm ?

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vers x haste ?

charred onyx
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so is sniper shot just a longer casted aimed shot

boreal veldt
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yep, you can run up to some hunts and they won't stop the cast so you can just wait till the last moment in their cast and cc

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it's almost pve

charred onyx
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shit hits like a nuke

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hunter in this one arena did 200k normal hit of sniper shot to this dragon. im assuming it can crit like everything else

boreal veldt
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it's really good in rbgs but in arena your running at hunter anyway

charred onyx
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ez pz. kinda feel like having me and my friends make marksman hunters and go into random bgs to all sniper shot the same person all game long

magic wing
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what do we craft guys

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got boots

vapid tartan
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Shadowflame patch/sporecloak seem to be best options after boots

elfin surge
vapid tartan
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I heard there’s something with sporecloak that it only checks hp once every 5 secs or something? So it doesn’t always proc shield when low hp

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Not completely sure tho

magic wing
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ok got the patch from pvp

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*pve

wheat jay
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@elfin surge

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arms

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is

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best

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shit's MAD fun

elfin surge
wheat jay
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played turbo

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slapping 100k mortals every global feels good xD

rotund trellis
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Gonna take arms for a spin tonight then..

elfin surge
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🙂

vapid tartan
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Trinket and ep procs?

elfin surge
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have u not seen the clip?

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lol

vapid tartan
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No

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Oh

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The one where u violate the mage?

elfin surge
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yea

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wasnt avatar

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trinket and enchant proc tho

vapid tartan
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Damn didn’t notice that

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15% haste might be the way

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How much mast you get?

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lowest I’ve gone is 20 haste/ 32 mast

wheat jay
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i have 0 gear as of now

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441 pvp ilvl xD

elfin surge
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18% haste

limber relic
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Wait u guys hitting high with ms without hurricanw?

raw summit
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Hurricane is really bad

wheat jay
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M+ talent

raw summit
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Fr

west mural
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it's like having another def cooldown

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but if u not targeted it;s useless

distant bane
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can i send gold to my alts

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cross faction + cross realm?

magic wing
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@elfin surge post build bro

lean burrow
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i'm feeling like cringe rn, pls post people whining about being 2k+ last season and 1k this season

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forums/reddit/whatever

unique fox
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Hurricane did not feel good when i used it either

elfin surge
fossil mortar
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Saved?

unique fox
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lol Rampage already hits so hard

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Back to fury we go

wheat jay
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im fine with that

frosty nexus
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dont worry guys they will buff arms again the week after so then u gotta change specs again

random fractal
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both warrior specs zugging

kind sentinel
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Not being able to cancel hurricane BS for a kick, stun, intervene, etc feels omega bad

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prob fun in an epic bg for lots of numbers dopamine though

unique fox
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the only fun thing about hurricane is keeping up with druids running around pillars

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otherwise its kinda trash

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unhinged feels like the better choice between the two if you had to pick one

magic wing
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nerfed ?

kind sentinel
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kinda feel like id rather just not take either, mainly because i dont wanna have the MS from unhinged eat an Op stack

lyric violet
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Rampage buff

magic wing
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thats kinda big

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back to fury

scarlet flame
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either take hurricane or something else at this point

wheat jay
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Damn

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Reddit unhappy with fury changes xD

sturdy root
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Hey guys, complete newbie here, should i aim for tier set at first when using my conquest points?

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or should i invest on them big weapons

rotund trellis
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do you have full honor gear at least?

sturdy root
rotund trellis
sturdy root
limber relic
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Rampage deals 30% increased damage in PvP combat (was 15%).

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lolwat

gaunt scaffold
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Fury is back on the menu

gaunt scaffold
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I feel like I don’t do dmg as fury arms is t that much better though but it’s toolkit make sup for it

fallen solar
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When do these changes go live? Tuesday?

teal hedge
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Fellas what does a pulled lat feel like

scarlet flame
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@mild thunder what talents you run

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on ww

mild thunder
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You can swap fury of xuen to take whirling punch, but I only take it into teams with knocks

teal hedge
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How long are solo queues on ww?

mild thunder
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Dunno, i don’t SoloQ

teal hedge
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What

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Then how do you pvp

mild thunder
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With friends

teal hedge
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Only guy I know that plays mmos is just a freak about em'

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He gets addicted, spends a lot of cash and then moves on

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Otherwise all of the gamers™️ on this server mostly seem to play on us

scarlet flame
karmic verge
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is using mythic ashkandur worth in pvp?

scarlet flame
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no

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my ww has 403 ilevel and i just hit some guy for 100k in a bg

teal hedge
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These graphs only serve to instill fear in me

vapid tartan
teal hedge
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You're on US though, right?

vapid tartan
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Ya

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Forgot you’re in swe so might be diff

fallow seal
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anyone have suggestions for a good premade ui and wa's package? pvp specific

boreal veldt
mild thunder
boreal veldt
mild thunder
scarlet flame
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@mild thunder 423 ilevel

vapid tartan
mild thunder
scarlet flame
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yo so

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why can bms have their pets attacking you

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while they're still stealthed

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@wheat jay explain your retard class

undone pumice
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he plays survival

mild thunder
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Sv does it too

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Iirc there’s two things you can do

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You can spam kill command from camo and instantly pacify your pet so they don’t break stealth by auto-attacking

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Or I’m pretty sure you can just summon your pet after you enter camo and they won’t be stealthed

scarlet flame
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ive had it 2 times now a bm just has his pets auto attacking me from stealth

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there is nothing i can do about it either

wheat jay
scarlet flame
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is it an oversight that you can do it

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or is it a feature

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and how do you play around their entire damage kit being able to dps you while you can't

dreamy moat
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these dudes using the bar pad with a smith machine to do squats

wheat jay
faint pumice
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Is the a way to make a macro that will show tooltip of onslaught/odyns fury depending on the talent chosen?

wheat jay
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They can't do anything except kill command

scarlet flame
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you say that like 60% of the damage from bm isn't their pets

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are you just fucked until they come out

wheat jay
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Ye with cooldowns and barbed

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Kc without anything is zero dmg

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And its got low dmg

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And Hunter cant do ANYTHING else while doing it

scarlet flame
#

i was on my monk who was like half geared and this guy basically killed me just with his pets

wheat jay
#

Lol outplayed

scarlet flame
#

and in 2s yesterday this other guy did it to my druid

wheat jay
#

If you died to that, or almost died

#

Then skill issue

scarlet flame
#

i wish details went back far enough because it wasn't doing no damage bro

#

1 minute of his pets doing 15-20k damage to classes that dont have op hybrid heals isn't a skill issue lmao

dreamy moat
#

clearly he knows whats optimal

mild thunder
#

If he pulls them back, you know where he is

wheat jay
#

Bigbrain would move them instead of pulling back

#

And watch warrior leap bladestorm into air

scarlet flame
#

??????????

dreamy moat
#

DOT?????????

wheat jay
#

Been like this since s1

#

You use every wall on it

scarlet flame
#

im literally getting knocked back with deaths advance up

wheat jay
#

Weird

scarlet flame
#

did they not nerf this shit

#

this aug is immortal

muted surge
#

Seems like a skill issue

scarlet flame
#

literally killing me through every button

muted surge
#

Did you try to dodge it?

scarlet flame
#

i did dodge it then he still healed to full hp from 20% and 1 shot me with his beam

#

through 6 stacks of necro wounds

muted surge
#

Should have dodged the beam

wheat jay
#

They nerfed it in raid scenario

scarlet flame
mild thunder
#

Skill issue fr fr off da perc no cap on the stack

scarlet flame
#

idk i just 3v1 a hunter sp and lock but this stupid bullshit clas 1` shot me

mild thunder
#

Just ams it bro

wheat jay
#

Ye, you have ams on like 20s cd or whatever

mild thunder
#

Just dark sim and steal deep breath

#

Idk if it costs mana

scarlet flame
#

40 second cd

mild thunder
#

Probably not

scarlet flame
#

he killed me through ams and ibf

#

in the first ss

mild thunder
#

AMZ bro

#

Goddamn

scarlet flame
wheat jay
#

I call bs

scarlet flame
#

i swear on my fucking life

mild thunder
#

I call bs

scarlet flame
wheat jay
#

He slam forehead on keyboard

#

And rolls it

mild thunder
scarlet flame
#

damn true ape playing with his feet huh

mild thunder
#

Do you mean actual rotation

scarlet flame
#

iu haven't looked up anything regarding this class yet

mild thunder
#

Okay I’ll give easy rundown

#

Keep FoF and RSK on cd as much as possible

#

FoF over rsk, especially since fists gives you crit

#

Use blackout kick often to reduce rsk/FoF CDs

#

Don’t repeat abilities

#

Chi wave, expel harm are both really good to throw in between abilities to keep your mastery up

#

Keep faeline stomp up as much as possible, only hold it if you have a go coming up

#

Open on your off-target or on a pet if you can, to make sure you have a keefers and alpha tiger proc on your burst

#

Your go is xuen>stomp>sweep>serenity>fists>rsk>blackout>rsk/windlord

#

Make sure you have max teachings of the monastery procs ready for your go

#

When you use windlord, try and angle to hit as many targets as possible for thunder procs

scarlet flame
#

frontal cone?

mild thunder
#

Pretty much yea

scarlet flame
#

ok i was putting more prio on rsk than fof and i wasn't using stomp correctly

mild thunder
#

If you can get high up time on stomp, it’s basically +12% dmg all game

#

Very good

scarlet flame
#

did you farm tokens for scalewarden gear

mild thunder
#

I did a bit, but not much

scarlet flame
#

there was 1 wq that gave me like 600 tokens that dragon one from s1

#

but i haven't seen it for like 3 weeks

mild thunder
#

Oh and you can obv hold fists for parrying stuff like kidney, unholy assault etc. same as dbs

#

You can also clip fists for a RSK if you think the instant burst will be more important, I.e. the target is low and the rsk will kill them before they get healed

scarlet flame
#

is yulons still good

mild thunder
#

Dunno tbh, I’ve still used it a bit but I usually just opt for diffuse

scarlet flame
#

do you ever use crane kick? only when it lights up and cleave or not worth compared to blackout

mild thunder
#

If I have high monastery procs, I’ll usually use blackout instead of spin

#

If you don’t get the reset, then you can spin anyway

scarlet flame
#

we go practice ty master

mild thunder
#

Fight well

#

Xuen guide you

scarlet flame
#

🫡

#

okay this is kind of an in general question, i got wrong stat rings trinket and wep for my conq boxes, should i just replace with honor gear or keep the 450 ilevel ones

mild thunder
#

And yea just move toward mastery as you can

scarlet flame
#

want to find bloody token groups to farm them but no one does that shit

vapid tartan
#

Can just recraft whenever for stats

scarlet flame
#

healing the 1500s is soemthing else man

#

some guy got mad at me i didn't cc enough even tho i used 6 clones and then told me he was going to get my account banned with bots

#

so i stood still for the next 2 rounds so he would go 1-5

#

this is also wild to me

vapid tartan
#

Nice buff to rampage

#

rb onslaught gonna be nice I think

mild thunder
#

fyi if you are versing sv you can reflect tar bomb

#

didnt know that, and i got it reflected on me

magic wing
scarlet flame
#

this shit is crazy

#

the amount of cope down there

scarlet flame
mild thunder
scarlet flame
#

sometimes you have to suffer for your choices

mild thunder
#

playing literally everything except my warr right now

scarlet flame
#

hey same

#

i even tried healer 😄

mild thunder
#

soyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

scarlet flame
#

i have a friend who finally wants to pvp

#

im gunna heal for him

mild thunder
#

nah i might try disc

scarlet flame
#

resto is fucking dogshit in solo tho

#

actual garbage can shit

mild thunder
#

i'll probs just heal 2s

#

maybe 3s

scarlet flame
#

also why are there so many rogue mages at 1100 2s

#

go the fuck away you cucks

mild thunder
#

undead priest?

scarlet flame
#

trying to gear my monk and a bunch of dickheads here at 9am

mild thunder
#

undead or velf?

scarlet flame
#

unead

mild thunder
#

good call

#

ive got the predator title

#

perfect for priest

scarlet flame
#

nice

mild thunder
#

hahahaha ive got the name savile

obsidian loom
#

If you play ret and compare it to arms it's night and day

#

Ret feels like a complete class

mild thunder
#

ret is a disgustingly fun spec no cap

#

more utility, more dmg, more fun burst, cant be kited, better rotation, more interesting abilities, scarier cc etc.

scarlet flame
#

ww burst is already more fun and im still fucking it up

#

lmfao

mild thunder
#

the best burst stims in the game are ones that alter and/or accelerate your rotation

#

stuff like serenity, coordinated assault, combust, shadow dance etc.

#

they're so much more fun than avatar and cs that are just statsticks

scarlet flame
#

this game did not need augmentation and you'll never change my mind

#

no one likes that spec

mild thunder
#

true + real + based + valid + you're right

scarlet flame
#

idm boring cds as long as they feel nice to press

mild thunder
#

but they dont feel nice to press critcake

#

cs is better now that we always have AM and can desync it from disarms

#

SL was so cringe, it was just cs > disarm on repeat

scarlet flame
#

yeah idk if could have played sl

mild thunder
#

SL was super scripted

scarlet flame
#

ive literally only got into matches with rogues and mages today

#

can these clowns fuck off

#

holy shit i want to actually ply my character

#

how is striek of the wind lord gunna do 100k damage lmao

wheat jay
#

Or proc that's better than their actual cooldown xD

mild thunder
wheat jay
#

That's because cooldowns are not as static

mild thunder
#

there'll always be some degree of predictability in arena, but it's definitely less so than SL

wheat jay
#

Not static cooldowns is the sole reason for it

#

Collosus smash doesnt get disarmed every time

#

Because its like 20s cd

#

Or 25

mild thunder
#

yea and i think that's fine

wheat jay
#

Same

#

I kinda like it

mild thunder
#

as long as all/most classes have access to offensive cdr

#

in SL it was just mage and outlaw, and that was horrendous

wheat jay
#

Makes it more important to not waste defensive

mild thunder
#

i like how dmg feels atm as well

#

not arms

#

but in general

raw summit
wheat jay
mild thunder
#

stop the cap

muted surge
wheat jay
#

440ilvl doing 50k dps is not normal imo

teal hedge
#

I really cannot conclude the state of arms as a spec from reading these statements

frank knoll
#

None of you better even think about logging on today until you do your burpees

teal hedge
#

Or, well

#

I do squats

#

But with weights

undone pumice
teal hedge
#

Only ever doing bodyweight stuff in PE really fucked wit me

#

I enjoy doing free weights, a lot, but being forced to only do gymnastics in PE and not other sports I liked just really made me hate being physical for a while

weak wedge
teal hedge
#

What

weak wedge
#

Squat with weights on a bar, when you're standing push it over your head

teal hedge
#

Like a snatch?

#

My shoulder press is comically weak

weak wedge
#

No idea what it's named

teal hedge
#

Though this is a deadlift into a squat

#

Combined with a military press

#

It's an olympic lift

weak wedge
#

Nah, coach had us doing squats with a bar (20kg), rested on chest/under chin, just push overhead when standing, then down, then squat and repeat

teal hedge
#

Ah

#

I guess that makes sense from a sports perspective

#

But I prefer completely separating my lower and upper days

#

So I shoulde press 20 kg x 10 on upper day

#

And then I squat 70 x 8 on lower day

weak wedge
#

Yeah it was more cardio/HIT focused, "rest" was heavybag

teal hedge
#

I do a sorta weird combination of bodybuilding and powerlifting

#

I go heavy with compound lifts, but I also do a lot of isolation-exercises

lyric violet
#

power building

#

i think thats called

#

and i do it also

#

5x5 for compound lifts and 8-12 reps for accessory lifts

charred onyx
#

im learning ww does insane damage

#

like every other expansion

#

warriors need atleast a 300% damage buff so nobody can ever outdamage us again

#

only way to make things fair right 😄

frank knoll
teal hedge
#

Hence why I much prefer free weights

tulip sail
#

so fury > arms?

teal hedge
#

They're very similar in performance, with fury being slightly more favoured in 2v2.

#

Honestly the best pick is to play the one you're more inclined to play.

charred onyx
#

should go glad stance warrior instead

tulip sail
charred onyx
#

thats heresy

#

i cant spell

hot solstice
#

I wish they buffd mortal by 10% but changed overpower damage bonus to crit chance on ms

charred onyx
#

but arms has been the slow boring spec since WoD. although its actually fun to play in dragonflight again

teal hedge
#

I personally find fury to be mind numbing compared to arms

charred onyx
#

it was the opposite for me before dragonflight

#

always viewed arms as a clunky unfinished spec from WoD and onward

teal hedge
#

Last time I played before dragonflight was a monk in legion critcake

#

2015-type-beat

charred onyx
#

fuck was 2015 really legion

teal hedge
#

You know what else?

#

Actually no

#

Legion was 2016

#

My bad holmes

charred onyx
#

close enough

teal hedge
#

But yeah, I was 12/13 back in legion and I got to vote last year 😎

#

There are fully grown humans as old as WoW.

charred onyx
#

i was finishing high school in legion

teal hedge
#

I was struggling through middle school 😭

charred onyx
#

wow is only like 20ish years old

#

almost 20. a little under 20 years

teal hedge
#

Yeah, I'm only like, 5 or 6 months older than wow and I'm 19

charred onyx
#

god i forgot my own age for a second. had to think of my birthday. only 25

#

been a graveyard shift worker for a couple years so my sense of time is haywire

teal hedge
#

25 is still very young for a wow player

#

There are so many people here that have entire families

charred onyx
#

i started just before the launch of BC

#

all i did was kill mobs to level from BC to lich king. didnt hit max level until lich king lol

#

i would argue with my brother about how to level. "why would i do quests if i have to run so far away to accept them and turn them in. I could just keep killing these mobs right here." ignorance at its finest

teal hedge
#

So real

#

Yeah I leveled a hunter and then, when I bought legion, I got a free boost, so I boosted a monk

#

I think I first played back just when MoP or WoD just dropped

#

But considering I was 8/10 years old at the time, I hardly got anywhere

#

Also, 8 year old me wasn't that great at english

hot solstice
#

did they make different gcds for each class? I am about 20% haste on war ret dk but warrior feels way faster than other 2

frank knoll
#

I was early 20s when mists came out lmao

#

That’s probably true tbh

vapid tartan
teal hedge
#

Real

hot solstice
#

is slam realy that bad?

frank knoll
scarlet flame
mild thunder
#

When do you press slam? It’s not higher prio than mortal strike, and if you’re pressing it instead of overpower you’re losing ms resets

scarlet flame
#

idk its crit chance being so high + its damage i can see you using it as a more consistent execute but even then idk

mild thunder
#

Our entire rotation is unfortunately just based around mortal strike

Battlelord
EB
Fatality
EP

#

You wanna be getting it off cool-down

scarlet flame
#

and with going mastery and the buff ms hitting harder than slam now during cd windows

#

so not trying to reset it the most you can isn't how you wana play it

buoyant mulch
#

Which sec stats arms go rn? Mastery?

limber relic
#

I mean solo shuffle rn is boring af

#

Its 99% 4 melee in 1 pile aoe

scarlet flame
#

i love that shit

#

i even dont mind 2 casters in a lobby most of the time

wheat jay
scarlet flame
#

its just cleave and its big numbers

#

its not really interesting outside of that

#

its kinda like m+

wheat jay
#

Nah, m+ kinda fun

#

4ppl doing zug zug is boring

tiny hornet
#

fury getting that 15% rampage buff is kinda nice

#

well inc

limber relic
#

Blizzard failed with season 2

#

Its so shit

wheat jay
#

Why

scarlet flame
#

im playing monk and loving my life

#

same with dk

#

rdruid in ss is so bad tho

#

i like it in 2s

mild thunder
# wheat jay Why

Unironically I’m starting to think this server just hates s2 because arms isn’t free wins anymore

thick reef
#

I didn’t play season 1 but I’ve enjoyed 2nd season quite alot

#

Pvp has been fun as fuck for the most part

#

And raid hasn’t been too bad either

#

Be nice if chunkier ms was more consistent but what can ya do

scarlet flame
#

outside warrior

#

mages can eat shit tho

tiny hornet
#

I'm having a blast on fury

#

zugzug

#

and inc 15% rampage buff

scarlet flame
#

some things they do doesn't really make sense but overall s2 is ok

#

im having way more fun than s1 tbh

#

@mild thunder

mild thunder
scarlet flame
#

is it just me or are fears good vs monks @mild thunder

mild thunder
#

Yea fearing serenity pretty good

#

You don’t have as much cc avoidance as warr so you gotta be a bit more mindful

#

Honestly, not playing warr always reminds me how braindead it is that warr can just cycle berserk, bladestorm, reflect to avoid cc so easily

scarlet flame
#

yeah i take dk and war for granted with fear

#

i've been cucked pretty hard so far on the monk with fears

mild thunder
#

Yea just gotta be mindful, you can always RoP casts to stop cc, port to avoid etc

scarlet flame
#

i need a new omnibar profile mine got bricked

elfin surge
#

we back

mild thunder
#

We’re ww mains

elfin surge
#

top warrior plays ww war

#

windwalkers are literal gods

mild thunder
#

I’m a ww/sv main now

muted surge
#

How long until season 3?

#

Or can I wait for possible war changes

mild thunder
#

Probably another two months at least

digital rover
#

Hear me out: Warrior General Talent: Magic Breaker> Take 10% reduced magic damge.

bright stream
#

my god

#

SS healers are

#

such fucking babies

#

game after game after game, they call stupid targets, throw tantrums, rage quit, refuse to heal, shittalk players after walking face first into cc

#

its insane

scarlet flame
#

i can speak from experience that at least at lower mmr some dps players are straight up retarded

#

i had 7 clones in 1 round and this retard hunter told me to clone more

#

but then you get people who go "it doesn't matter" when calling who to kill like the reason they are losing is cause they attack the wrong person lmao

#

my rdruid is gunna stay below 1700 in ss forever because i just dont care enough to try on it because i get conq either way

#

if i go 0-6 or 6-0 i get conq either way so its pretty chill

#

WW might be strong keks

mild thunder
#

Okay I can confirm from personal experience

#

That WoW players in general are retarded

#

In any role

#

At all ratings

#

Across all gamemodes

scarlet flame
#

true and real

#

the worst people are the ones who flame in ss like their life ended

bright stream
#

and it happens constantly

scarlet flame
#

idk how it happens constantly for you

#

i have like 700 total games and maybe 1 healer called a target out of every single one

bright stream
#

what rating you rockin on your WW?

#

like genuinely, every game at least one round

scarlet flame
#

well its brand new and i have played 2 total ss on it

#

so 864

bright stream
#

I reckon you'll see it as you climb a bit

scarlet flame
#

but on my dk at 2130 and war at 1930~ they dont say anything most of the time

bright stream
#

they don't get it right much more often as you climb higher either, they just like

bright stream
scarlet flame
#

you getting some wilding healers then

bright stream
#

though I do think it's more prevalant at lower-mid ratings than higher ones

scarlet flame
#

on my healer if some retard says go warrior instead of sp im gunna say go sp

#

but i dont say shit on my rdruid at all

#

like if on round 5 i see these guys tunneling bad targets for all 5 rounds on the 6th ill say something

bright stream
#

the problem I see consistently

scarlet flame
#

but if they make a plan before im not gunna say do something else

bright stream
#

is a player will die in round one

#

and both healers assume that player is bad

scarlet flame
#

yeah thats annoying

#

just got out of a bad hunter lobby where hunter got owned and both healers were saying he was bad

bright stream
#

or players will assume that a target is good for comp A because it's usually good for other comps

scarlet flame
#

like hes not gunna get run down by a ww and dk

bright stream
#

like the one I'm annoyed about rn

scarlet flame
#

i notice that a lot at like 15-1700

bright stream
#

is round 5, 4 rounds hunter has died, healer is like 'go hunter' and I replied, 'ya, you don't need to call it'

#

so he refused to heal and called me the r-slur

scarlet flame
#

i think thats kinda on him tho

bright stream
#

like how fragile does your ego have to be lol

scarlet flame
#

he got salty over a comment lmao

#

not even a rude comment too

bright stream
#

my rogue was so frustrating to grind to 1800 for the mog

scarlet flame
#

rogue is rough yeah

bright stream
#

cause healers would ragebail a lot

#

I had over a dozen games in the 1600-1800 range where healers left after 1-2 rounds to spite me

#

(they would explictly tell me or it would happen during the big cc chain in openers)

scarlet flame
#

bro this class is fucking insane

#

95k fof into 160k rsk + fury damage what the fuck

mild thunder
scarlet flame
#

your words helped a lot it feels way better now lmao

faint pumice
scarlet flame
#

can get a second crafted ring

faint pumice
scarlet flame
#

idk fury stats tho

#

i like crafted rings because they give more of the secondary stat than pvp ones

faint pumice
#

I have like 31% vers, I think I can trade 1% for more mastery. Is there minmaxers who knows for sure 😅?

bright stream
#

iaushdiuashda

#

the punishments for healers leaving

#

are not enough

bright stream
#

@mild thunder I can smell the spriest mog within a queue or two

#

then it's monk or maybe hunter next

#

also - the new AI avatar, thoughts?

mild thunder
bright stream
#

nah as in mine

#

the ol' wolfhead with the brain stuff

mild thunder
#

oh

#

yea it's cool lmao

#

you like mine? heisenberger with no pants

bright stream
#

your profiles gone full bourgeoisie

#

are you the man now? do you run things in this joint

mild thunder
#

if i was running things, @spice hornet would be perma-banned and @elfin surge would be stormforged

scarlet flame
#

the guy i normally play 2s with on my druid is going on vacation for 7 days so now im fucked for a whole week into SS

mild thunder
#

troll heritage armor when

scarlet flame
mild thunder
#

troll proper feet when

scarlet flame
#

you dont like back toes?

mild thunder
#

zanda male would be one of the best models in the game

#

if they didnt have those goofy ass floppers

scarlet flame
#

spatula feet

#

walk on water with no water walking

mild thunder
#

base troll is also based

#

but

#

no boots

#

and no beards

scarlet flame
#

what do you spend honor on with cap

#

just boxes or what

undone pumice
#

imagine if we had lore accurate sizes on races

#

10 foot tall ztrolls

dreamy moat
#

troll race being superior because I could make a character named Trolltoll

digital rover
#

Got my warrior her 1800 peepoHappy

muted surge
#

6 wins

#

and peopel say arms is bad

mild thunder
#

grats!

muted surge
#

maybe it is a skill issue after all

scarlet flame
#

can mages portal you to legion dalaran

muted surge
#

just use the hearthstone 👄

#

but yea, ithink ?

scarlet flame
#

apparently you can't use it on characters that haven't done the quest

#

🙂

#

even tho my druid was a boosted character that never completed it but can use it

muted surge
#

the quest takes 1 sec tho

scarlet flame
#

but my dk and monk both can't either

fossil mortar
#

I won 6 times in a row, that is total undeniable factual truthful true fact proof that arms needs a nerf.

scarlet flame
muted surge
#

yea same but

#

its fast, so not that bad

tiny hornet
#

can we motion to bring back island expeditions, I been spamming those since BFA

scarlet flame
#

random trash to artifically inflate how long you play the game are things id like to not participate in

muted surge
#

welcome to mmos

scarlet flame
#

yeah its why i only play wow

#

i dont play other mmos

tiny hornet
#

island expeditions?

scarlet flame
#

nah idc about those

tiny hornet
#

awe 😦

scarlet flame
#

all i care about is pvp thats the only part of wow i find fun

#

if wow didn't have pvp i wouldn't be playing wow

muted surge
#

if you want to pvp

#

then wow is kinda bad

scarlet flame
#

i disagree

muted surge
#

other mmos have btter pvp

scarlet flame
#

other mmos are dogshit

muted surge
#

wow is dogshit :>

scarlet flame
#

i will never play final fantasy or bdo i think both those playerbases are omega cringe x100000 of what wow is

#

if wow was bad i wouldn't play it

muted surge
#

idk about ff but

scarlet flame
#

just like how d4 got gutted by their devs and i dont play it

muted surge
#

the player base in bdo is better than in wow

#

way less toxic imo

tiny hornet
#

ff14 has meh pvp when I played early endwalker

#

it was an afterthought

muted surge
tiny hornet
#

TRUE

scarlet flame
#

wows afterthought better than ff afterthought

tiny hornet
#

I'd say they're about the same

#

if you gave ff14 20 years to develop it

#

they'd both me meh

scarlet flame
#

well i've met a whole lot of ff players

#

and they are so much more cringe and toxic than wow players its not even comparable imo

tiny hornet
#

they have a substatially larger furry population, come to find out

scarlet flame
#

they are literally the bottom of the barrel mmo players

tiny hornet
#

maybe it's related

scarlet flame
#

they're the type of person to suck their own dick in public

#

at least wow players do it in their home

tiny hornet
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yo, props to anyone that worked out the flexibility to do that though

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takes a lot of hard work and dedication

scarlet flame
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i bet lol

mild thunder
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430ilvl sv hunter

scarlet flame
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ive lost 6 rounds since i started playing this class

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1 of them was to dying instantly to enhancement shaman, and the first SS there was a dps that went 0-6

mild thunder
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i just lost a game because some guy was stuttering all over the map and i couldnt hit him

grand scaffold
mild thunder
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i swear i see so much of that these days

scarlet flame
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and the first round of this SS that i just won the monk got 1 shot by an assa rogue

mild thunder
scarlet flame
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@mild thunder how these stats look

mild thunder
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for ww?

scarlet flame
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yeah

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im missing 4 gem slots

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and scalewarden bracers

mild thunder
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pretty good! maybe drop a lil crit if you can, but that'll give you ~50% during burst not including passives

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actually yea that crit is fine tbh

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just go for as much mast as you can

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including crafteds

scarlet flame
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the only crit i have is from badge and bracers outside some stuff

mild thunder
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yea yea nice

scarlet flame
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i need more bloody tokens for the bracers