i will post animal pictures
#pvp
undone pumice
opal acorn
I mean dk tirr
opal acorn
Lmao
sage raptor
Then you must be unaware there are many tiers below B
scarlet flame
Then you must be unaware there are many tiers below B
that literally doesn't mean anything at all
opal acorn
What
sage raptor
Of which some specs are
boreal stone
genuinely confused why ppl are all doom and gloom ab warrior
scarlet flame
frost outlaw are dogshit unplayable garbage
that doesnt' mean warrior is good
hello
boreal stone
unhinged shouldnt play the game for you, it promotes a toxic and awful rng playstyle
sage raptor
They want to auto win. They just don't want to say.
opal acorn
Auto win lmao
scarlet flame
you're a retard popo
boreal stone
the only reason it ever should be ur burst is for the avatar proc
wich isnt going away
lean burrow
how is it better than dk?
scarlet flame
its going to do no damage at 60% effectiveness
opal acorn
Let's make 3 times the effort the retris are doing and still be worse
undone pumice
They want to auto win. They just don't want to say.
everyone wants to how can u fault them for it
sage raptor
you're a retard popo
Nit once have I seen anything you say make sense in any discord.
sage raptor
everyone wants to how can u fault them for it
Fair
scarlet flame
Nit once have I seen anything you say make sense in any discord.
thats because you're a retard
north thicket
how is it better than dk?
scarlet flame
frost is garbage = warrior is good
undone pumice
can u maybe chill
opal acorn
That's not tmog that's a full set btw
scarlet flame
there are worse classes so no class above it is bad
how is that a sane take
at all
sage raptor
frost is garbage = warrior is good
Shocker, putting words in my mouth. You spend too much time in the dk discord
lean burrow
https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/238066915187097600/1133131516348...
I don't even know what I'm looking at, it's too busy
opal acorn
Well, tbh popo u literally said that the fact that warrior is worse than any other meta spec, doesn't make it bad.
lean burrow
where's the head?
undone pumice
I don't even know what I'm looking at, it's too busy
red
and black
maybe some gold
dragonflight mog!
sage raptor
you are literally saying because other classes are worse warrior is not bad
Yup, that's what I'm totally saying.
lean burrow
what is that giant piece of wall
scarlet flame
where's the head?
hidden behind the shield
scarlet flame
Then you must be unaware there are many tiers below B
.
undone pumice
are we devolving to semantics again
undone pumice
i sure love internet arguments
sage raptor
You are an idiot if that's what you think I meant
sage raptor
are we devolving to semantics again
That's usually how it goes isn't it?
boreal stone
duel it out in durotar, this entire argument is pointless. warrior will be insane on tuesday, end of story. 10% to both of our highest single target dmg abilities is MASSIVE
scarlet flame
its not burst
boreal stone
and if ur getting 38k ms outside of WB, tahts good
boreal stone
38k Ms isnt even bad lmao
boreal stone
you want necrolord arms warrior to be a thing so bad
scarlet flame
i want to deal damage that matters before 70% damp
limber relic
I hit more with starsurge with insta cast at 40 yards with 0 effort
boreal stone
u win every shuffle in two avatars
3s is gonna be damp because EVERY class feels that way
muted surge
duel it out in durotar, this entire argument is pointless. warrior will be insan...
Is that a copy paste from the forum?
boreal stone
you sound like you havnt played anything but warrior
undone pumice
That's usually how it goes isn't it?
yea
scarlet flame
i play dk which is 10x better than warrior now
scarlet flame
why dont you explain to me the reasons then
scarlet flame
cause popo doesn't want to explain anything
sage raptor
cause popo doesn't want to explain anything
I dropped it for your sake. Let's start it again
boreal stone
not at all
scarlet flame
thats why it feels better to play
lean burrow
boreal stone
boomy counters warrior
scarlet flame
I dropped it for your sake. Let's start it again
right my sake lmfao
boreal stone
u want every class to have the same utility and damage?
scarlet flame
boomy counters warrior
warrior is good into sp but does no damage to them
lean burrow
but for the wrong reason
transmog best reason
limber relic
U also do way more pressure as dk but yes i agree that the range kick/ams/IBF are what makes dk rly strong into this meta
boreal stone
warrior is good into sp but does no damage to them
thats why SP defensives are getting nerfed mate
sage raptor
right my sake lmfao
You want to act like a retard in chucky cheese to bring stuff back, let's rock and roll
boreal stone
look at the fucking patch notes rofl
scarlet flame
You want to act like a retard in chucky cheese to bring stuff back, let's rock a...
okay b tier classes make everything above them good
scarlet flame
look at the fucking patch notes rofl
if you honestly think sp nerfs and 10% ms damage is going to change warrior at all you're nuts
i cant wait to bladestorm 20k instead of 12k on a sp
boreal stone
youre gonna be in mags twitch chat tomorrow morning, see how good warrior is, and come bhack to this conversation and realize how dumb u were
scarlet flame
i dont even watch mag
sage raptor
but for the wrong reason
the wrong reason is wounds which is shit to play with
opal acorn
Why u think warrior will be good?
north thicket
Ravager bro
limber relic
Bs buff bro
opal acorn
25% on an ability we don't use
scarlet flame
200 overall dps increase lets go
opal acorn
Ravanger into melee cleave tho
north thicket
:))))
scarlet flame
10% ms 10% op S tier warrior
it was 10k damage on our filler ability holding us back
limber relic
Unhinged buff bro
boreal stone
Why u think warrior will be good?
because youre getting a flat buff to your single target damage, and all the shit that counters you is geting significant nerfs
scarlet flame
1.5m cd for 80k damage over 5 seconds
i cant wait for boomkin and sp to still be the best classes in the game while unholy and ele and lock are still insane classes
mage buffs
limber relic
because youre getting a flat buff to your single target damage, and all the shit...
Mages stil kits u forever. So does boomies, ww, dh, hunters
north thicket
Change Unhinged name to Cringed?
scarlet flame
and you know what, if im wrong im adult enough to admit it. tomorrow if warrior is literally 180 and complete god class ill apologize to anyone that wants it
but im pretty sure nothing is going to change with warrior
the class is garbage and sustained damage doesn't belong on a class so severely punished by downtime
boreal stone
Mages stil kits u forever. So does boomies, ww, dh, hunters
if youre getting kited by anything but a mage, youre probably using mobility wrong ngl
scarlet flame
the only classes you wont have trouble staying on are sp and lock
hunter can just as easily kite a warrior
ww dh dont matter if they're running away they do no damage to you
boreal stone
hunter is gonna kite you, but if u play patient and dont waste mobility, u can get uptime and kill them so easily
scarlet flame
in that same aspect if a hunter lets you touch them they're bad
boreal stone
which is why its part of the skill ceiling on warrior
limber relic
if youre getting kited by anything but a mage, youre probably using mobility wro...
Ur saying hunters cant kite a warr ez?
Or a boomie?
scarlet flame
yeah the warrior just has to be 10x better than the hunter to get uptime
ignoring who their teammates are
hunter with 2 freedoms isn't getting touched by a warrior
limber relic
Or a boomie? I just put thorns and go travel form and gg.
lean burrow
20 sec cd freedom 
limber relic
Charge me? Typhoon gg
Leap? Insta entangle on 30s cd
Stun on 45. Cycl unbreakable unless massdispell
"Let me bs so he cant cc me" lol gg 1.5m cd
Spell relfect. Moonfire gone
opal acorn
Lmao
boreal stone
i havnt lost to a single hunter rdruid team in 2s, and I lpay with an rsham
limber relic
2s
scarlet flame
those are exaggerated i wont lie seif
limber relic
scarlet flame
you gotta time spell reflect better
my experience is BS out of root just for them to travel form and wild charge away
if i cancel bs i get rooted again
if i dont they are faster than me
limber relic
you gotta time spell reflect better
A good boomie will predict it. Im talking for a boomie standpoint since i started playing it a week ago
scarlet flame
if i leap they root me
opal acorn
Sometimes I reflect cyclone thinking I outplay them but then my target is cycloned and I am sad
scarlet flame
i dont even care
limber relic
I run
scarlet flame
about being good into all casters
im not good into the casters im supposed to be good into
10% ms damage and 10% op damage aren't changing that
limber relic
Warriors are dog and will be unless they make a big change to all casters mobility and insta casts
opal acorn
I didn't know about high winds, cool
scarlet flame
I didn't know about high winds, cool
its getting nerfed so its not bad now
but rogues couldn't even cloak it off
limber relic
Makes 0 sense to have free precog when everything is literally insta casts. Precog is just free cc
scarlet flame
Warriors are dog and will be unless they make a big change to all casters mobili...
they shouldn't be good into all casters
what they are good into dont give a shit about their damage
because its non existant
limber relic
they shouldn't be good into all casters
But they should be viable. Which they are not into anything
scarlet flame
you aren't getting anywhere without burst damage
boreal stone
u guys are using mobility to get their mobility
scarlet flame
you are literally a cuck spec for your other dps applying sharpen to the kill target
boreal stone
u need to use yours after they use theirs
which is possible for every class other than frost mage
scarlet flame
you literally will never get that to happen 90% of the time
limber relic
u need to use yours after they use theirs
How do u get to a target with 0 mobility?
boreal stone
u dont waste all ur mobility is how
scarlet flame
so boomkin starts in stealth and combat starts in mid map
they open 40 yards away from u
how do you get there without "wasting" mobility
boreal stone
the amount of wars that will leap charge locks on their port is mindbiggling
boreal stone
or double charging through rop
limber relic
u dont waste all ur mobility is how
I dont but literally every class has more mobility
boreal stone
thats jsut delusion
im sorry
but theres plenty of warriors in here that will do exactly that
or charge into the freedom
scarlet flame
explain how you're getting to the hunter that waits for combat to start
without charge
opal acorn
So atake what class u playing?
boreal stone
I main warrior
limber relic
or the druid
U walk
scarlet flame
totally unrelated but how do you tell if your cpu is dying
boreal stone
map dependant, if youre talking about 2s, its a LONG match. prob jsut stay mounted, hunter will either go for stun trap or druid will bash clone or w/e, can bolt druid on the clone cast, jump at them on mount, slow, start to apply dots. hunter comes out, u charge shockwave and do burst, they are forced to trinket disengage/ros/ use their cds. if they disengage, u can prob charge again depending on how low they are. if u got ironbark from the rdruid, tab rdruid or go to pillar and play aptient and wait for them to push in
opal acorn
What are ur symptoms
scarlet flame
What are ur symptoms
random freezes
limber relic
Freezing, slow pc ec
boreal stone
then run them
limber relic
Who cares about 2s. 2s is even worse than solo shuffle rn
boreal stone
ur PC might be under hella stress if u have windows updates or other ones and ur prioing video games etc.
opal acorn
Ss mmr system is weird
scarlet flame
dont say something doesn't matter
scarlet flame
ur PC might be under hella stress if u have windows updates or other ones and ur...
it seems random sometimes
i do have a windows update pending tho
boreal stone
update all ur shit
opal acorn
Drivers can be the issue, so check them and we will see
boreal stone
maybe defrag the PC as well if u havnt in a while
opal acorn
I think I was getting random freezes when I didn't update my nvidia driver for couple time
boreal stone
Who cares about 2s. 2s is even worse than solo shuffle rn
give me a scenario and ill do my best to help u
scarlet flame
it hasn't been a long time since i got the message to update
scarlet flame
give me a scenario and ill do my best to help u
in 2s the hunter can just kite you around pillar with traps
boreal stone
cuz 2s is arguably the bracket that represents the most mastery at your class
scarlet flame
in 3s its even worse if they have someone to help them do it
limber relic
give me a scenario and ill do my best to help u
Idc about 2s. Its not balanced whatsoever
boreal stone
then what doo u care about?
limber relic
3s
boreal stone
whats ur comp and what do u struggle into?
scarlet flame
swapping is always easy for warrior but actually connecting onto the healer or hunter is almost impossible
if the other dps is another ranged you're only wining if you outplay them extremely hard
limber relic
Havent played in awhile on warr now but played turbo. Struggle into all mage comps
scarlet flame
yeah you're gunna struggle into the class that counters youthe most tho
limber relic
Sp dont die
scarlet flame
mages are literally anti melee cucks
limber relic
Dk/evo kite forever until 1shot
scarlet flame
sp not dying is bc war does no dam
limber relic
Mages everywhere
boreal stone
these are the only 2s I have since swapping my main wars realm, but thats every rdruid hunter ive fought
limber relic
Whats that addon/wa called again?
scarlet flame
reflex
boreal stone
only ppl ive lost to that I can see in my reflex are multi r1 boomy fw teams, one hpriest feral team, and ceralium/Kubzy playing with Dnos hpal. and mag when hes playing with dno
limber relic
2s?
scarlet flame
okay so how about this one, it happens a lot with range/druid
fallen solar
Alliance really don’t win bgs in the middle of the night do they?
I win all the time during the day
At night. Horde is unstoppable
It seems
I’m playing at work lol
And noticed every bg, not one horde member dies
Every match
scarlet flame
you're hitting hunter but he gets away so you want to swap druid, druid runs away from hunter/your healer and out of line but you dont want to waste mobility to get druid so you want to go back hunter but hes beating your face in from pillar
opal acorn
Yesterday I had a day off, made the huge mistake of playing my retri in the morning
scarlet flame
if you leap to hunter he kites around pillar with traps, if you go to druid hes also kiting around pillars and your slows dont matter with shifting
boreal stone
this was my hpriest arms turbo session from about 3 weeks ago, first time playing with them
boreal stone
I made a lot of mistakes that lost us the game into the feral mage priest team, the LSDs were rough, but also winnable
that boomy rdruid was asbur
arguably the best boomy of all time
he does RMT boosts every season
fallen solar
At daytime only the casuals play which are mostly ally
Yeah cause these horde are foaming at the mouth
boreal stone
ill que with that team tomorrow again probably after the war buffs, will let yall know how it goes
maybe I can get my 2.4 in 3s and start getting glad wins
opal acorn
Btw can ppl cheat? I was playing against a very sus monk yesterday. The guy was insta stunning me at cds. But like the moment I was pressing cds, I was stunned.
muted surge
I main warrior
Link profile
muted surge
Btw can ppl cheat? I was playing against a very sus monk yesterday. The guy was ...
Yea ofc
boreal stone
https://check-pvp.fr/us/Executus/Atake i tanked shuffle 3 weeks ago and ive never been the same since, but yeah
I was number 1 arms NA for a couple hours until mag qued and took it LOL
boreal stone
Btw can ppl cheat? I was playing against a very sus monk yesterday. The guy was ...
most cheaters are either rotation botting, dispel botting, kick botting, or meld botting
or a combination of those, not sure if stun bots are a thing, since it would prob be too complicated to code
opal acorn
Maybe he was just too good or lucky. I was getting stunned the moment I was pressing the button like I was ccing myself
boreal stone
it can feel like that, but u have to keep in mind if ppl see u press weeping strikes and stormbolt, theyll expect warbreaker as ur next global and disarm it/stun it etc.
scarlet flame
sometimes its just luck
boreal stone
or it coulda also jsut been a really good player on an alt
posibilities are endless
scarlet flame
theres a bunch of times i use cds and get stunned the same global out of pure chance
boreal stone
yeah
scarlet flame
or poor timing on my part
boreal stone
a lotta weakauras ppl use as well
scarlet flame
like 99% of the time people stun on CD
boreal stone
noticed it a lot on my WW. Dhs are blurring every time I apply keefers to them instantly
even if Im not doing big dmg with it
scarlet flame
^
i dont really get cucked on my cds anymore as war but there are so many times i get cc'd cause of chance on cds
like fuck me dead the amount of times i've been knocked back on cds the same global i used them because i was near someone
it would have to be super super sus to make me think it was a bot doing it
like a rogue shadow kidney every single time i used avatar
boreal stone
i got accused of meld botting once, it was pretty funny
scarlet flame
@boreal stone change the helm on your mog
boreal stone
I melded a rogues kidney bomb
scarlet flame
its bad
boreal stone
its insane with the sword bro
opal acorn
U missed it didn't u gala?
scarlet flame
huffing the fumes from your sword and helm bro
boreal stone
yessir
scarlet flame
messing with your eyeballs like a camp fire
opal acorn
Need to farm that sword
scarlet flame
why use that one when ashkandur is in the game
opal acorn
Cause Ash need me to win rolls
boreal stone
Because that one drops off the best raid boss in all of WOW
limber relic
Cuz i dont pve
scarlet flame
do 4 mythic dungeons and get it for free
boreal stone
could prob solo mythic0
limber relic
just get it out of your weekly mythic box
Is it 100%?
opal acorn
I pug pve, in a month of clearing I won once and gave up the loot. Yesterday I lost to a guy that was in greens
scarlet flame
no its not 100% its just a chance at any loot from the raid
just get it on your second box like i did
boreal stone
Rolling on loot is the worst thing of all time, but SL raid loot was even worse
limber relic
Just 4head
boreal stone
I did all 3 fated raids one week, 30 bosses total, and got 0 loot
scarlet flame
you know the best part
is i went to my brothers raid the day after i got it for free from the box
and 2 dropped in the raid
boreal stone
I rly wanna make a mog with mythic CN set, but I cant find a good tab for it
scarlet flame
what is cn
boreal stone
Castle Nathria
scarlet flame
oh
boreal stone
still need gloves more than ev tho
opal acorn
No way
scarlet flame
for recrafting do you need shadowflames
opal acorn
opal acorn
300k wtf
scarlet flame
https://www.reddit.com/r/Transmogrification/comments/136akp2/conqueror_of_aberru...
thats a great mog
would look better with normal version ashkandur tho
boreal stone
no tabard tho
scarlet flame
doesnt need one
boreal stone
no mog is complete without a tabard imo
opal acorn
I don't like tabard always. But I like the cloth of the tabard on the back of the pants
I find any tmog with nothing on the back, incomplete
boreal stone
I hate cloaks so much
opal acorn
Same, I have never used one
boreal stone
not very warrior like, seems like it would jsutget in the way in battle
scarlet flame
i hate most cloaks too
opal acorn
First thing I did was hide cloak on interfcaback then
boreal stone
some of the venthyr blade cloaks are sick as fuck
but they hide ur weapon if sheathed
opal acorn
It's lame cause its like a mini skirt
vapid tartan
Lowkey hyped to queue tmr
Think our big issue will only be mages? Hopefully with the nerfs going out to other specs and the dam we get will be nice
I liked unhinged but there will probably be more bm anyway?
scarlet flame
heres another one i found
vapid tartan
How can u be 1200 with 300games and a positive wr
I mean nothing wrong with that probably just enjoys the game
opal acorn
No I don't mean to flame, I mean how aren't they higher
scarlet flame
they lost a lot early and their mmr is super low
opal acorn
Like 1600 is the default
vapid tartan
they lost a lot early and their mmr is super low
This
vapid tartan
If u fuck mmr up early takes way longer to climb
scarlet flame
now they have to win basically every game to get higher mmr
opal acorn
Ah I see
opal acorn
Last season I was playing with no addons, think that's worse
lean burrow
pikaboo plays with no addons
vapid tartan
Does he really? I thought they allow them in awc now
scarlet flame
pikaboo plays with no addons
he plays with addons
lean burrow
i imagine since he played more than 10 years he could play without addons
lean burrow
he plays with addons
opal acorn
I recently learnt thar there are even wa that warn you on certain abilities
scarlet flame
yup
opal acorn
I should bother one day and get them ig
opal acorn
Ye
vapid tartan
Wb sound -> insta disarmed
just drop banner
raw summit
Was just super funny when the wa was based off of the debuff being applied
vapid tartan
people are surprising lazy in shuffle
raw summit
And people disarmed enduring blow procs
opal acorn
I should get this wa pack
scarlet flame
whys it feel like i lose every bg
opal acorn
Are u horde?
vapid tartan
Is it possible to consistently meld hoj or just luck?
scarlet flame
on the druid
scarlet flame
Is it possible to consistently meld hoj or just luck?
you can
vapid tartan
Like I know bolts and coil is pretty doable just saw a guy pull it off multiple times and was impressed lol
opal acorn
Do u need to time it too or if u melt the moment they throw the spell, it misses?
vapid tartan
I believe you can do it while spell is in the air or being casted?
Not 100% sure
I think for stuff like kidney you have to time it at the same time tho
opal acorn
I think it should be in the air. I just don't know if it was to be when u are about to get hit or not
lean burrow
Is it possible to consistently meld hoj or just luck?
do you think little billy on 1.6k-1.8k would meld hoj every game?
probably scripts
opal acorn
Maybe little Billy is 1600 cause they only focuse on meld hoj every time.
Little Billy the meld Pro at 1.6k
dreamy moat
Do you guys think I'd be able to get away with cutting chimken breast into strips to put in the air fryer and not need to flip?
I'm slowly getting back into my gym phase and still looking for ways to quickly cook chicken for the week
Mind you this'll be like like 1.8kg of chicken breast
thick reef
yea crumb it as well if u can have the extra calories
empty arch
Do you guys think I'd be able to get away with cutting chimken breast into strip...
Put it on the side 😄
violet fossil
Do you guys think I'd be able to get away with cutting chimken breast into strip...
I’ve cooked full chicken breasts in an air fryer for a good while
I would either tenderize it a bit or butterfly cut them open
undone pumice
Do you guys think I'd be able to get away with cutting chimken breast into strip...
well an air fryer seems pretty chill to flip stuff in no? but probably you would get away with it
could also try some weird way to fit some sort of rack in and rest thr chicken on that
dreamy moat
ahh yeah, my current air fryer still isn't that big but I saw a convectional one I might save up for
undone pumice
idk i still just use a pan for most my cooking
air fryed food has been kinda mid so far
dreamy moat
it's weird my body has that contradiction that's like
"wanna eat"
okay so let's eat to get big
"no"
to this day, even though it was awful for the first bit my morning shake ended up getting a lot of protein intake in
egg whites, spinach, peanut butter blended together
I might as well be drinking Fel
undone pumice
he is drinking mannoroth's blood to get buff like grom
what a lad
but eating lots of protein is super hard i feel you
hot solstice
25/25 haste mastery or 20/30 would be better?
lean burrow
before crit change mastery was the cringiest stat
now crit is the cringiest so haste is king
west mural
haste kinda feels like wet noodle
put thousands of stats just so i can hit bit faster and my bleed wich doeesn't kill anyhting tick faster and ms is 10% faster on cd
opal acorn
Ye but u attacking faster getting more rage to use the new buffed slam
west mural
i'm still kinda questioning the ideal secondary stats percentages
cause a bit of crit for mee feels better than no crit at all
and full haste kinda eh
also when u have no uptime on target...doing some burst on a target with crit/mastery feels better than haste, idk i might be wrong
haste just feels very pve, cool if u have uptime and pressure
they should've just buffed the hell out of sks if they want haste bleed to be a thing without uptime
graceful ginkgo
distant bane
So currently 1800 in pvp is ez to get?
I went from 0 to 1400 yday in around 70rounds and all matches were wins
And i only had 2 pvp trinks and everything else is pve
Whilst my CC usage and dps was at the top
Though i noticed everyones targetting me lol. For some reason ppl hate warriors
opal acorn
U have pve gear and u ask why they were targeting y?
boreal veldt
haste kinda feels like wet noodle
We hit like wet noodles regardless so might as well slap that noodle as fast as you can
opal acorn
Ye but no vers Ig
distant bane
Ye sadge
U think full honor gear + double conquest weaps / trinks would be better?
Since i can actually afford em rn
Apart from the conquest ones
And should i be wearing my 4piece?
onyx marlin
Ye but u attacking faster getting more rage to use the new buffed slam
is it worth it tho? to even use slam after the buffs
opal acorn
it was a joke actually
digital rover
Hey warriors how’s arms and fury feeling with the new changes. :3 I’m ready to start my grind again for 1800 on mine
opal acorn
all part of "the plan"
Lmao
elfin surge
Hey warriors how’s arms and fury feeling with the new changes. :3 I’m ready to s...
mid
kind sentinel
u boys ready to be SLAMMING
thick reef
u boys ready to be SLAMMING
ABCs
Always Be CSlammin
craggy igloo
servers are up
slam still does 0 dam and unhinged is complete garbo now COOL
all the bottom row arms talents are super nerfed in pvp now
woven mural
drop unhinged for EP, berserkers instead of tormented maybe?
craggy igloo
yea ep is probably better now but its pretty nerfed in pvp
rotund trellis
slam still does 0 dam and unhinged is complete garbo now COOL
lyric violet
yea i was gonna ask you boys think unhinged is just useless now?
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i was thinking something like this idk
boreal veldt
it's trash lmfao
hooooly i just tested it, unhinged is dead
and slam with all it's talent buffs still weaker than OP so it's still not gonna be on my bars
vapid tartan
Yup slam still weaker than op
lean burrow
and slam with all it's talent buffs still weaker than OP so it's still not gonna...
maybe slam could be stronger than rend?
which is what's supposed to be swapped with, not overpower
boreal veldt
I mean it's just to trigger tactician right? I'd prefer tclap to cleave dots so i can OP more
vapid tartan
Yea with less talent investment into tclap you get more rage dump , bleed refresh and garunteed op charge
Which feels better than taking an extra talent to do meh dam with slam imo
spice hornet
hooooly i just tested it, unhinged is dead
What does it hit for
boreal veldt
on crit i got between 29-47k
spice hornet
Hahaha
boreal veldt
normally it just adds effectively another tick of bs
vapid tartan
For me fully geared and gem unhinged 29-49k no modifiers on dummy
vapid tartan
i wasnt expecting anything from ravager but honestly this looks like it could have use
enraged dam on dummy no modifier
def gonna test for rbg
trail plover
If you spear ravager it might be decent right?
vapid tartan
For arena idk considering a lot of classes have a way out
rbg I’m really interested in this
boreal veldt
the brawl is southshore so chuck it into the thick of em lmao
vapid tartan
For maps like eots or pretty much anything where warrs spin flag/node will be good I think
Maybe not so much on fc map
charred onyx
man i really hate fighting frost mages this season. feels worse than usual
serene kite
Been running hurricane + blademaster’s torment
GOTTA GO FAST
with BS pvp talent
I have become beyblade, destroyer of worlds
charred onyx
only problem with hurricane is that it prevents you from canceling bladestorm if you want to kick a cast
like the game literally stops it from being able to be cancelled
serene kite
Oh shit, totally forgot about that bug
That’s pretty yuge
God damn it
Hurricane is actually dece
gaunt notch
..i dont think its a bug
serene kite
Idk why that’d be a design choice
vapid tartan
Yeah it’s wierd but ppl been talking about it for a while and no change so assuming that’s how they intend it
gaunt notch
is someone named "Mew Mew Titty Milk" really questioning other peoples design choices
vapid tartan
serene kite
gaunt notch
wheat jay
teal hedge
what
scarlet flame
slam damage with all talents + trinket cs avatar
was on a warlock in a duel
he had 8% vers tho
this was on a paladin in a skrim
no cs or avatar tho he insta bopped (:
unique fox
slam with no cds does 12k damage lol
scarlet flame
unhinged ms
yeah idk slam seems kinda shit, im gunna spam it for more numbers but atm seems just bad
BS from another warrior in skrim who got double cleave on me and another fury warrior
unique fox
Bladestorm does some nice dam for sure
scarlet flame
from 1 bg this is slam with full talents invested
these my stats
bs on like 25 people in new pvp brawl
no wb i forgot to change talents
charred onyx
are ele shamans good this season? wondering if thunder cleave was a thing again
scarlet flame
yeah ele are good
charred onyx
also. i didnt like solo shuffle last season and ive learned i really dont like it this season lol
scarlet flame
mage meta lets go btw
regal jungle
I've seen some people use https://www.wowhead.com/item=207024/paracausal-fragment-of-shalamayne?bonus=6652%3A9313%3A1472%3A8767 for big combos, I guess it's not as good as pvp trink set for arms since we got the slam build now?
scarlet flame
lock port also op
i dont think we have a slam build
its not that good
im pretty sure unhinged is unironically more damage for 1 point than imp slam
lyric violet
i feel like taking the 35% execute talent and exhilirating blows is the move now? am i just stupid?
you guys think EP more damage with sudden death procs ?
scarlet flame
ep is ms damage
scarlet flame
im pretty sure unhinged is still more damage than ep
unique fox
I'm gonna try skullsplitter again
Max mastery w blademasters torment should be big dam
vapid tartan
yeah idk slam seems kinda shit, im gunna spam it for more numbers but atm seems ...
It feels alright if you double op into cs + ms and spam slam till reck window is up
but yeah pretty awk to press outside of that
scarlet flame
i dont even think its better in that window
im still gunna mongo test the damage but it feels not great
vapid tartan
You get like 50%? Pretty sure more crit chance on slam during reck window so I think that’s the best area to do it
Outside reck I’d rather hit op anyway
elfin surge
I'm doing like 0 damage right now, so I went to the gym to up my lifts to compensate
digital rover
How is the new changes treating you guys. Arms and Furys banger again or they still meh
lyric violet
bladestorm pumps
digital rover
Is UH still a go to talent cause scrolling through the chat and reading patch notes seems people don't liek it as much
lucid walrus
I've seen some people use https://www.wowhead.com/item=207024/paracausal-fragmen...
it's just generally a throw to take pve trinkets into a match
build doesn't have much to do with it
scarlet flame
can get same numbers as arms it just feels weird to fit it in
digital rover
Arms feel better and feels like it does damage
still feels super squish tho
unless i'm just doing something wrong
vapid tartan
just be easier on fury bc of the longer reck window tbh
can fit way more crits in
the dam is better than i expected in actual pvp tbh
north thicket
recommend u trying use slam as fury in anihilator build
Nice! Was thinking exactly the same these days
The Slam change was aimed at Fury more than Arms
Or at least it seems so
vapid tartan
yeah feels a lot smoother on annhi
north thicket
Are you guys playing something like
or maybe Slaughter instead Ravager
Of course, the above is a PvE build
north thicket
It's PvE build from wowhead, just wondering how it would like when more PvP talents are taken
amber heron
why would u get rid of reck?
boreal stone
wowhead pve builds are no where close to being good for pvp, not even worth trying to use them
north thicket
Sure, look at the one with pvp adjustments (right above)
north thicket
why would u get rid of reck?
Reck is selected no?
vapid tartan
Not the extension talents
north thicket
Yes, and this is where you come in
vapid tartan
Never worth really to give up empowered rb/bt
north thicket
Are they worth more than Slaughter or OF?
boreal stone
that build is complete and utter dogshit, just go to check pvp and copy what mag has on his fury
north thicket
I wonder, no expertise
teal hedge
I just pranked my buddy
vapid tartan
Also, I would either commit to the ww talents all the way or none at all
north thicket
that build is complete and utter dogshit, just go to check pvp and copy what mag...
Try to be creative, of course you can copy/paste his build
Select 1 WW because of some cleaving potention
vapid tartan
Yes for 2 gcd
boreal stone
if thats ur goal, then play the wowhead pve build without intervene, berserker rage, impend, or piercing howl with spear of bastion and 4 talent points to increase ur rage cap ROFL
boreal stone
Fury isnt made to cleave bro, the entire design of fury is to single target train one target. if you want to claeve, play arms and press sweeping strikes
vapid tartan
if thats ur goal, then play the wowhead pve build without intervene, berserker r...
Bro u don’t need to peel or heal if you just pve them down
vapid tartan
Try to be creative, of course you can copy/paste his build
Well first what are you trying to accomplish with the buold?
boreal stone
mythic plus in solo shuffle it seems
north thicket
Atake you arent really contributing in meaningful way
boreal stone
im not gonna sugar coat it, that build is fucking dogshit for any form of pvp
if that makes u butthurt, idk what to tell you
vapid tartan
First ask yourself what the goal of the build is then you can be creative, that just looks all over the place and doesn’t do anything well
boreal stone
prime example, the build has spear. spear is heavily nerfed in pvp, and crit dmg modifier is also nerfed, so thunderous roar is just infinitley more dmg compared to spear, plus its more AoE dmg overall
north thicket
You are looking at the PvE build
boreal stone
if u play annihilator, your whirlwind has like a 7 second cd, so u wont even get to press that to cleave
north thicket
Of course, I wouldnt play spear
Aha
Yes, you are right about that
Forgot it
Okay prime question is OF worth anything nowadays in PvP
With Titan's Torment
vapid tartan
Are you guys playing something like
warrior tree: Impend, berserker rage, intervene are all mandatory. 90% of the time youll also want shockwave. Can make an argument for dropping piercing howl i guess but should still use it. Roar > spear.
boreal stone
i thik the talent that gives u whirlwind stacks and increases the odyns dmg is worth it over the auto attack speed one
but yeah, u def play odyns fury with titans
vapid tartan
fury tree: playing 1 talent cleave with annhi makes absolutely no sense, 7 sec cd for 2 gcds??. Reckless abandon is mandatory, and you should be taking invigorating fury unless u are playing with an awc healer
also if playing onslaught you probs want unbridled ferocity too
north thicket
Yes, you are both right about that
makes sense not investing points in WW and play with OF's Titanic Rage
vapid tartan
you can have two versions of the build if you really need it anyway, one completely without and one with 2 points
unique fox
I've been enjoying the one point in onslaught over the OF upgrade
vapid tartan
it feels real nice with rb
north thicket
You are saying that Abadon is mandatory because of 4p set right?
vapid tartan
abandon is mandatory bc it significantly increases the dam of bt or rb depending on your build
if you arent running it youre trolling
boreal stone
I would recommend this build: BgEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFEAAAAAAAAAAQICkAERTICJRDESiEQkkQkkkESCJhEplWISQSAAAQABB
Its basically a raging blow rampage build, which lets you actually use your 4 set properly. u dont really lose that much survivability compared to annihilator, since they fixed battle trance
vapid tartan
have you been running 4p? just went 2p for some more mast bc I felt it was super rare for it to have much impact
vapid tartan
in that case just go for pinned annhi build and make sure pain and gain is talented
boreal stone
I had 4 piece like 3rd or 4th week, still feels good enough to play. I also just rly enjoy raging blow a lot more
2 piece if perfectly ok too tho
north thicket
pure-damage wise AM > Abandon no?
boreal stone
jsut personal pref
vapid tartan
yeah im playing rb with 2p rn, but im not sure if the mast increase is more dps
vapid tartan
That is not an issue since you are running annhi
And you can easily get around that by pressing rb twice anyway
boreal stone
Wasnt there a problem with CB and Battle trance
they fixed it, as I said previously
north thicket
Aha, you are referring to that bug, I see
gray umbra
is blademasters torment mandatory over recklessness for arms because of the bladestorm buffs now?
vapid tartan
Probably matchup depending
Wouldn’t say you go with one a 100% of the time
I’m using blademaster more often for sure tho rn
scarlet flame
is blademasters torment mandatory over recklessness for arms because of the blad...
its probably not mandatory
unhinged really fuckin bad tho bs does decent dam with torment
hallow agate
Is unhinged still the play?
scarlet flame
no
gritty halo
anyone else feel like the anhi/odyns is still the go to for fury?
vapid tartan
Exec Prec?
Executioners precision
stable drift
Is fury more fun in rbgs ?
gray umbra
i dont thnik fury gets invited to rbgs
vapid tartan
It does and works well in some comps but arms is more useful in general bc the strong ms and sharpen are always good
teal forge
so, you guys dropping unhinged for ... ?
fallen solar
So when this season ends, does that mean all the gear we have becomes pointless? 
teal forge
im having a blast with hurricane
teal forge
30% Strenght + 30% movement speed
oops
Yeah Blademaster + storm of dest + hurricane
meh it's nerfed by half in pvp
15% for strenght and speed
vapid tartan
So when this season ends, does that mean all the gear we have becomes pointless?...
Yes
teal forge
still better than unhinged
vapid tartan
Aside from crafted maybe
magic wing
The changes any good ?
hallow agate
Bladestorm feels useful and not like you shoulda insta use a cancel macro 😂😂
So changes are solid
magic wing
So arms can pop off now ?
hallow agate
Found my self tunneling cleave a lil more tho 
Yes.
In the 2200 bracket I was hitting mortal strikes for 100k+ consistently
Def felt good with Execute Prec
vapid tartan
So arms can pop off now ?
Feels pretty nice, plus lots of stuff that counters us besides mage got nerfs
magic wing
Gotta try pvp again I guess
hallow agate
Warrior most countered class 👀
magic wing
Fury meta was ass
scarlet flame
still better than unhinged
the only bad thing of hurricane is you can't cancel it
so if you use it you're cucked for the full duration
vapid tartan
obsidian loom
tender swallow
any tips for vs sub rogue as fury?
unique fox
i usually kill whatever isnt a sub rogue
gray umbra
any tips for vs sub rogue as fury?
wars kill rogues pretty easy imo. just keep em slowed and be ready to bladestorm or WW when they vanish to get em out of stealth. biggest thing is playing disarm(and knowing when to disarm, ie: on duel/secret tech). dont disarm just cause, make sure theyre bouta burst
tender swallow
wars kill rogues pretty easy imo. just keep em slowed and be ready to bladestorm...
even with their shrouds and such? and opening combo? i've been using my enraged regen for the dmg reduction
gray umbra
like any defensive, swap target til its off. rogue has one defensive that i tend to try and dps through because it seems like i can. not sure if its evasion or what. you want to keep the pressure though and make sure youll be connected as sooon as it falls off and that he cant restealth obvi. and idk i only use enraged regen when my hp is dropping. as long as you keep up pressure youll heal yourself
opening combo is no different than playing against any other class
frail badge
are solo q times still long like it was in the begining of this season?
gray umbra
idk, i really dont have troubles with em personally but i havent been playing fury
elfin surge
pretty sure sub rogue is the hardest thing for warrior to kill
at least in 3v3
shuffle is chaos
gray umbra
a good slippery mage tilts me more
fallen solar
Yes. Arms is pretty damn good right now
Just went 5-1 with more damage than a balance
fallen solar
a good slippery mage tilts me more
Yes
I cannot stand frost mages
When I’m on my hunter, frost mages run from me though lol
gray umbra
when im on my ww everything runs from me and i can actually catch them ;P
unique fox
Cant wait to hear Venruki cry about warrior damage
elfin surge
warrior is finally viable after years of being F tier
unique fox
It's been a hard 2 months brother
lucid walrus
there wasn't even much that changed was there?
tender swallow
pretty sure sub rogue is the hardest thing for warrior to kill
yeah all their evasion has been really ruining me in 2s
unique fox
Anytime i face sub rogue in 2s I go on the partner generally, rogue melts but has so many escapes with vanish, cheat death, cloak etc. Pretty much as soon as I'm on stun DR and he's used disarm I mash all my cooldowns on his healer or mage.
Seems to still be working at 1900
gray umbra
ya i was gunna say now tat i think about it, rogue is NEVER my kt
unique fox
Yeah i just pressure them to force their cd's and try and get them to waste shit
hearty orchid
which move onslaught?
little lava
why theres no achievement for getting glad mount
in this season
seems like a bug xd
hearty orchid
how much does slam hit for on average with slam build
thick reef
is it worth puttin slam on my bars lads?
tender swallow
^ i would like to know as well for fury
scarlet flame
good for fury kinda awkward for arms
fallen solar
there wasn't even much that changed was there?
Blade storm has alot more damage
stable siren
what u guys rocking just bladestorm?
scarlet flame
i was wrong bladestorm buff is kinda nuts vs cleave
op and ms feel like whatever
bladestorm on 2 targets is pretty good
fallen solar
Yep. I have confirmed kills every match with it so far lol
fallen solar
People panic when you bladestorm too
scarlet flame
it was a full melee lobby so skewed but its doing good cleave
idk who it was but some guy got crit for 194k ms lmao
fallen solar
Got damn
scarlet flame
must have been either the monk or dh
lucid walrus
my money’s on the guy in leather armor
scarlet flame
well both of them are in leather
it was the dh
dont think i hit a paladin for that much
game it hit it in monk was on my team
limber relic
Unhinged stil viable?
scarlet flame
i dont think so
ill run it next ss to test dam
ngl movement speed on hurricane is pretty cool
ruby temple
Every lobby is a cleave lobby in shuffle even against casters. They get scared and huddle on their healers
scarlet flame
its not much of a cleave against good casters
opal acorn
Why not unhinged. The overall dmg is still more
scarlet flame
hurricane prob more damage if hits are low
i was gunna test out how BS > cds feels with hurricane
with warlords
i dont think slam fits with arms still even tho its damage got buffed
scarlet flame
15% str before you use avatar and cs is kinda nice
opal acorn
U also take the bs talent?
scarlet flame
blademasters?
opal acorn
I got banned and can't test anything:(
scarlet flame
gotta keep your mouth shut in ss bro
opal acorn
The pvp talent
scarlet flame
i mean you can run it if you aren't going to get value out of other things ig
opal acorn
Was playing while pissed
scarlet flame
think warbanner is probably better
opal acorn
Banner bs ms
scarlet flame
warbringer root still nice, disarm good vs people that hate it
could be good tho ms on all targets of bs, 2 bs, bs damage ok now
scarlet flame
i was thinking of testing that yeah
limber relic
So if u get bladesmaster + hurricane does the buff from hurrican stack?
I mean i u bs after
boreal veldt
6stacks max but the buff duration refreshes
limber relic
So stil 6s?
scarlet flame
6s yeah
boreal veldt
yes but you'd be going into your next go with full stacks
boreal veldt
if you get a perfect setup, with blunt instruments you can fit both bs' into one cs
scarlet flame
ig each stack refreshes to 6s
if you count uptime during bs you get 20s of 15% strength
on pvp dummy with wep and trinket proc with 6 stacks
boreal veldt
get real foolish and run it with double dps trinks
opal acorn
Foolish?
scarlet flame
hes saying be a fool
opal acorn
I always run 2
scarlet flame
oh ok
opal acorn
HUMAN
scarlet flame
im not human
boreal veldt
human privelege
too be fair though even as undead i was able to hit 1800 with both trinks
just prayed to the banner gods and my healer
real griefy
opal acorn
I think I hit 1800 as be with double dps trinket. It doesn't matter too much at low elo
scarlet flame
unhinged shit
opal acorn
That bad?
boreal veldt
its bad
opal acorn
Even on St?
boreal veldt
yuhp
the numbers we ran earlier today, the ms' you get from unhinged crit between 35-49k max
scarlet flame
yeah its low
opal acorn
Uh is 2 ms right?
boreal veldt
aye
opal acorn
Also for fury, we go os now instead of of?
opal acorn
I still don't get why we running annihilator with the 4set btw
limber relic
if you count uptime during bs you get 20s of 15% strength
Wait what do u mean?
scarlet flame
the buff doesnt drop timer until bs ends
ig it would be 18s cause it takes 2 seconds to stack it up right
limber relic
If u warlord u get full stack after 6s right?
limber relic
Ah ye
scarlet flame
you get 6s from both yeah
limber relic
So it only stacks to 3?
scarlet flame
5 seconds of 6 stacks after bs of either ends
no you get 6 stacks from both of them they each get to 6
limber relic
Eh nvm im stopid
scarlet flame
so you have 5 seconds after ea bs ends of 6 stacks
limber relic
Yeah
scarlet flame
it takes 4 seconds to get to 6 stacks
limber relic
How?
scarlet flame
probably just tested it with timer and its 4s to get 6 stacks
limber relic
Ok nice so 2+5+6+6?
Am i counting it right? Im tired af rn
😂
19s of full stack?
19s of 30% str and speed?
opal acorn
I don't understand that lol
unique fox
Hurricane gonna get wars nerfed again
tiny hornet
hurricane blademaster's makes us super sticky
limber relic
I don't understand that lol
So when u avatar with bladesmaster it takes u 4s to get 6stacks. And bs lasts 6(?) So u have 2s of max stack before the 6s timer on hurricane starts ticking. Then u can have ur stacks for 5s before u have to bladestorm again to refresh ur hurrican so u get another 6s of hurricane in ur bladestorm since it doesnt fall off and keeps refreshing. When bs is over u have 6s left
Shit explaination i know im tired..
tiny hornet
TLDR last tick of BS starts the countdown, you have 6 seconds to play with before you need another tick of BS to refresh hurricane
opal acorn
Ah mb, I didn't count the time between the 2 bs
limber relic
Hm wait does anger management lowe cd on ava?
opal acorn
Why we were not playthis b4
tiny hornet
nah, CS and BS
scarlet flame
Why we were not playthis b4
Because ms from unhinged was burst and hit for 80k
tiny hornet
I thought it was too but it must've changed since I played war last
limber relic
Why we were not playthis b4
Cuz unhinged was too strong
scarlet flame
Not too strong
opal acorn
What if we get both 🤔
unique fox
Rinsing the dummy with 200k mortal strikes
opal acorn
Ah ye I am tired too xD
limber relic
So do u stil WB before bs or do u wait to use WB with full stack?
I think after no?
opal acorn
Not sure
scarlet flame
probably after
scarlet flame
huh
limber relic
U wont have WB during all of it no
So prob best to use it after bladesmaster ends
Then dmg for 5s and then bs
Or
Bladestorm > Wb > ava
That way u get 1 gcd off with insta bs from bladesmaster
🤔🤔🤔
Not bad not bad
Nerf inc
Does the speed stack with banner?
opal acorn
Lmao fast boi
scarlet flame
unique fox
skullsplitter coming out of hurricane is giga dam