pvp

[scarlet flame]

cucked myself playing warrior again, should have stayed with boomkin

i kind of figured they'd nerf boomkins but nah

just read the patch notes and all these classes getting so many changes and

[urban skiff]

I need a guide on how to increase the info i get on screen

I got to 1800 without omni-anything or tracking enemy cds or trinkets

So I guess what I'd like is something that helps me decide where to focus on increasing info density without overwhelming me

[muted surge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/810664169140518947/1097620949576204461/image.png

Like that?

[urban skiff]

If you take out everything, including my eyes, then we're halfway

[scarlet flame]

is this one of those maintenances thats actually going to last all day

[urban skiff]

Nah

But i can't wait to rip up some people as "support & buff"

while i find some high sustain dps that'll melt people whenever i pop off

[lean burrow]

i recommend weakauras, gladiatorlossa, omnibar, gladiusex, plater, diminish, bigdebuffs

configure gladiatorlossa to yell alerts only on castable cc and when big defensives end (and maybe some offensives)

weakauras: get "externals on you" to easily see when you get stuff like PI from teammates, can also find and adapt weakauras that will show debuffs on you (like karma), can also get "healer cced" weakaura and mes arena alerts

configure gladiusex for trinket cd and 1 big defensive for each spec, so you don't have to track too much

omnibar: configure to get only most important cds, keep it to like 3 cds per dps spec, stuff like storm bolt, blind, only something that you can outplay by knowing when it comes

plater: get "better pixel perfect" profile (i think it looks nice), google "teaa hide trash nameplates" and install that for plater, look up other stuff from teaa, configure plater in "buffs" section to show "player offensive & defensive cds", manually add a few more cds, you can also hide useless debuffs such as rogue's million poisons if you want

diminish: put player DR somewhere close to your health bar (i put it on top of player name), put party DR icons in the corner of party frames, imo just stun DR might be enough for party frames

bigdebuffs: disable everything except big icons on party frames (also anchor them to the right of party frames to easier see when there's cc on your team), and maybe keep icons on unit frames because player portraits are not needed

damn, blizzard will never implement all of this

[urban skiff]

i swear I'm not trolling when I say I have no clue what cooldowns I should be tracking from enemies

[muted surge]

Just download the stuff from mes

[urban skiff]

who is mes?

[scarlet flame]

liquid pvp player

[urban skiff]

Maybe they'll buff prot some more instead

Appreciate the writeup

[mild thunder]

https://youtu.be/8YN6DM3kH0Y

@teal hedge

[teal hedge]

And? He has far more resources and experiencr. I can't hit 60 in that time.

Wait what the fuck

60 in two and a half hours

How the hell

[gritty hazel]

There have been stackable xp buffs lately

Summerfest, Sanctuary event, DMF

Now use the heirloom stuff with that and ya

instant leveling via dungeon grinds

[snow moon]

is pve 4 set worth to keep or replace whit pvp item as fast as i can?

its most 428 ilvl

[green anchor]

prot Mud comeback

[scarlet flame]

NA servers still down is troll

[lucid walrus]

they're up

[scarlet flame]

yeah i was spaming it

[scarlet flame]

anyone else getting spam dc?

got disconnected and now i can't log into my 1 character

[lucid walrus]

kui plates are out of whack now

[scarlet flame]

can't even unstuck it

[fallen solar]

Anyone have addon issues?

[sharp meteor]

Yes, it's patch day.

[fallen solar]

Ahh it’s the first patch I’ve experienced since I started playing

[spice hornet]

not surprised to see this back

[scarlet flame]

just reroll dk pog

[gilded oyster]

what is better

with or without skullsplitter

as arms

[dreamy moat]

I see magnus running sporecloak as fury, is it worth it?

[river walrus]

Did they buff the already broken boomies??

[elfin valve]

we do. he overlaps sometimes which is annoying but tough to coord without disc / many games. It does not feel like he survives 2 goes, let alone 3

[boreal veldt]

Ayyy they finally fixed it, unhinged ms finally applies Rend if you have Bloodletting

[sharp meteor]

It certainly looks like a decent option.

Keep in mind that it's heavily nerfed and reduced by dampening.

[dreamy moat]

Yeah thought so. Torn between gearing for fury solo or pushing through as arms to get 2100

[sharp meteor]

They're both pretty solid and use similar stats.

[dreamy moat]

yeah cool so augmentation has something that slows a bladestorm

fuck warriors i guess

[rich tiger]

hows warrior in pvp

[limber relic]

Trash

Imagine. I went from 2400 to almost 2k in solo shuffle

Now im back to 2.4 😂

[fallen solar]

Warrior is excellent in pvp

A zug zug here and a zug zug there here a zug there a zug everywhere a zug zug

[rich tiger]

whats the previlant build for arms out of the 3 listed

[mild thunder]

The one without spear or skullsplitter

[spice hornet]

It feels terrible

Every spec just feels way more impactful right now and wizards are meta

[fallen solar]

@rich tiger

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/proudmoore/kuroseso

This is what I’m running and it’s working great

[fallen solar]

It can be tricky in a caster meta. However, being up on a caster can make them struggle, and warrior is great for that

Keep the pressure up

[vapid tartan]

Anyone played games with augvoker?

[rotund trellis]

hold up is this patch day?

[dreamy moat]

yus

oh my god fury is so fucking braindead

[fresh valve]

which is why its the best spec in the game

[dreamy moat]

ffs how do you play against mm

[spice hornet]

arms feels perfectly balanced

however there are too many broken wizards rn and some melee are now jsut way more powerful

[muted surge]

So it doesn’t feel balanced huh

[spice hornet]

the design of arms

i am not talkign about the meta

arms isnt op

its where other specs should be

[dreamy moat]

hmm yeah I'm starting to think we're bleed spec again

kept going for spike sks damage and whatnot

then I started spreading DW and rend

in shuffle

[spice hornet]

i hate unhinged so much

[spice hornet]

theres a aug support build that does as much dams as a dps p much

literally out damaged my warrior

[dreamy moat]

they can slow bladestorms as well 🙃

[muted surge]

??

That’s whack

[dreamy moat]

knocked into air and thrown back

yeah we can't play the fucking game

[opal acorn]

hi guys, is there a top limit for versatility?

[wheat jay]

Define top limit

Cuz normally its just how much you can get from gear

But there's dr on stats which dont matter too much

So just get max vers you can

[mild thunder]

who's ready for all the hpal fotm rerollers

[teal hedge]

I got into pharmacology

Hell yeah

[mild thunder]

how about you pharma balls in your mouf

[teal hedge]

You will not survive the winter

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-catelyn-crying-gif-12732950

[scarlet flame]

im glad i got the elite transmog literally the day before this patch

so now i dont have to play pvp again 🙂

[wheat jay]

Hpal good now?

[scarlet flame]

very good

[wheat jay]

I hate hpala

[scarlet flame]

this new spec is gross, almost more damage than my ms as a buff

and hpal went 6-0 over the disc priest who would have guessed

[muted surge]

How much dmg did the evo do?

[river walrus]

I feel like I should wait for the first rounds of tuning for this shit. Evoker will break pvp

[mild thunder]

honestly i think aug will get reworked into a traditional dps by 11.0

support roles just dont make sense in retail wow

[river walrus]

I doubt it, it just released, it won't get a rework so soon

[onyx marlin]

why?

[scarlet flame]

less than everyone else but more than the healers

it was demu he was getting trained really hard every round tbf

sorry it wasn't demu

it was okaybuddy

im retarded

koda was dk and yucasi was enhance shaman

he gave me like half my damage and was still criting for 90k

with living flame

upheval crit for 155k lmfao

my mistake again blistering scales is this

[mild thunder]

hol up, headache duck is gone

skyhold really is dead

[sharp meteor]

I'm still here.

[mild thunder]

bro changed species

[graceful nacelle]

With the unhinged build with spear are we building critical or still with hast mast?

[sharp meteor]

I think that mastery/haste is the more conservative play after the crit nerf.

Kind of unsure as to weights, though, as haste, mastery and even vers all have their little advantages and drawbacks.

[graceful nacelle]

True ok will keep in mind

Ty

[scarlet flame]

yeah dks dont feel fun to play against

[limber relic]

Vers>Haste>Mastery>crit

bleeds and fatality build

[spice hornet]

Does arms feel like shit in shuffle a lot? Especially higher rated ones just feel unimpactful af @limber relic ?

[limber relic]

absolute dog class in solo

Xd

99% of the time u get shit lobby

MWS/mages/rets lobbies are just ggs

cant last all the defensives

[spice hornet]

Yep

[scarlet flame]

i just got out of a full wizard lobby sp boomie ele and i went 4-2

was uhh like 1850 mmr or some shit

it was ok

didn't feel great but i killed people, it was on a smaller map so that helps a lot

if you're on a big map and they can free kite you basically do nothing

also from the games i've played it depends on healer, hpal and holy priest feel giga strong

disc feels kinda weak, rdruid and mw felt the same not immortal but also not hard to kill

thats just from dogshit mmr tho

[spice hornet]

Our damage/burst just doesn’t feel that impactful. It takes one soft defensive to be pretty safe from it.

Having some of our fam tied to unhinged is terrible. There are way too many npc specs and unhinged just feels terrible in general. The other options in this area are garbage

[scarlet flame]

yeah i do feel like our burst is kinda a w.e factor

ranged burst so strong you just run away from them or have to use more than 1 defensive

boomkin fullmooned me for 298k

aug evokers are criting for 200k too

hunters 200k mages 200k

pressure feels nice overall but you can kinda just do nothing for a long time

i feel like its in a weird spot where its good but everything else is just better, we have a lot of shit and we can do a ton of stuff, but other classes are just better

i fucking hate rallying cry tho, fuck that ability

[spice hornet]

Yup, other specs should be brought down to our level

[gilded oyster]

why does the wowhead talent build for ST has blood and thunder specced?

wrong chat

[vapid tartan]

For pve it is good as a rage dump when you can’t ww + nothing better to spend the points on really

[wheat jay]

FUCK

AUGMENTATION

brb rolling evoker

nvm, rolling boomy cuz this hits me through 40% wall xD

[hot solstice]

tf is this?

[lucid walrus]

what part, the bar?

[west mural]

hello, guys , recently joined for information, any1 else having a problem with arena healthbar display showing different value than the target icon or other addons>

?

happened for me, the arena teamm8 and also the enemy in arena

it just displays different values

[river walrus]

Yeah

Apparently it's a bug with new UI

[west mural]

tought so

[hot solstice]

do they ban for gold boosting arena?

need gold for crafted t3

[muted surge]

No why should they

[west mural]

is it just me or does arms feel more underwhelming than 10.1?

seems like i'm using a rubber sword xD at 447 ilvl

[wheat jay]

no

[sharp meteor]

No, that is permitted. There are some rules that prevent cross-realm advertising, though.

[west mural]

had the same issue

[scarlet flame]

watching supa hit people casually for 250-280k is funny

because boomkins needed more damage

[wheat jay]

Its just dumb

[opal acorn]

for fury annilator is the meta now?

[fickle forge]

That can't do it

The 250k moon amd 100k surge hit at the same time

Artji still hasn't located his turtle on his actionbar yet though, so had to bring it home 2v2

[scarlet flame]

im just fucking so tired of casters doing whatever they want all the time bruh

why do they get range and more damage

and all their damage is instant cast spells or 1 second cast times

eat shit fuck range

[fickle forge]

I mean yeah

WoW PvP bad

[last turret]

agree 100%

fuck ranges

[scarlet flame]

its so fucking tilting getting shot at like its 1914 and im in the trenches

gotta walk through no mans land getting showered in 105s just to tickles these dress retards

[wheat jay]

Ok you are a retard now

40% wall bitch

[fickle forge]

You fucking didn't man

We checked the death log

You only reduced your brain cap by 40%

[wheat jay]

And I had it on cooldown, I used it when I harpooned to him

[fickle forge]

[wheat jay]

You mean your dmg cap?

[scarlet flame]

why does d stance reduce my damage

why doesn't everyone elses defensives reduce their damage

[fickle forge]

Because they aren't permanent

[scarlet flame]

their range is permanent

[wheat jay]

Dstance used to be the best defensive in the game

Now its just very good

[scarlet flame]

its crazy how since the start of DF they haven't done anything to warriors but powercreep on everything else makes them feel 10x worse

[wheat jay]

Warrior is just balanced

That's all

[scarlet flame]

like 7 patches and 2 entire lines of text for warriors and now they feel like dogshit because everything else got tubo buffed

[wheat jay]

How are you going to change shit that's balanced?

[scarlet flame]

make it not balanced like everything else

its either op or dogshit

[wheat jay]

Its balanced

Its where it should be

[scarlet flame]

balanced = trash

[wheat jay]

You just want it to be op

Which is delusional

[scarlet flame]

yeah like the other 9 classes

[wheat jay]

Go roll fotm if you want OP

[scarlet flame]

its the same amount of time to reroll as it is to bitch

so no

[wheat jay]

Then bitch to a mirror

[scarlet flame]

i do

[wheat jay]

This aint mirror tho

[scarlet flame]

im doing both wym

[wheat jay]

@fickle forge pull up the kiggs quote please

[lean burrow]

they did

giga nerf to sharpen

nerfs to mortal strike

nerfs to sks

[scarlet flame]

oh i missed it then

i started late, prob 3 weeks before ret rework

[lean burrow]

they made these nerfs after retpocalypse

[scarlet flame]

i quit after that

[fickle forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/732611912126431304/789949947729805373/unknown.png

Tbf

Warrior got like 20 buffs early DF

[scarlet flame]

i can bitch and still try to improve how i play

if i lose a fist fight against someone bigger than me i can still say fuck that guy for bein bigger

the SS ques have been pretty great tho i like that

[fickle forge]

The virgin bitching vs the Chad "gg it's only a game, it's okay if my class isn't that strong right now, we just gotta get better"

[wheat jay]

Spent 1400 games with the chad mentality in s2 shadowlands

Good times

[scarlet flame]

well im still playing and not quitting like with rets 🤷

[fickle forge]

Yeah, and your sanity seems to be doing well

[scarlet flame]

honestly outside of big maps yeah its doing okay

i just dont like not being allowed to play my character against wizards on big maps thats 100% random

if i had friends id be doing 3s instead of SS but i dont so here i am

[elfin surge]

warrior is D tier melee now

[last turret]

soloshuffle mages everywhere fking hell i cant move

[magic wing]

Dont play pvp

Till they fix this

Warrior should be S tier or S++

On one spec atleast

[west mural]

is it just me or does it seem like arms war is official dead? u need a 10 button rotation to stand a chance of killing anything and if some1 presses 1 defensive or disable it's over , then u have to wait and survive atleast 40-100 seconds for your next window while u spend 80% of time running or disabled

[magic wing]

You mean hugging pillar like a bitch

Hiding from 200k criting ranges

[fickle forge]

Hit an awesome 8k CS vs an augvoker team yd

😎👍

[scarlet flame]

bring back mop second wind ty

[wheat jay]

Wouldn't do shit in this meta lol

Would be one of the worst talents

[spice hornet]

Warr feels awful rn

I hate unhinged so much

[mild thunder]

Reroll ww

[mild thunder]

10 button rotation?

Bro what

Overpower, mortal strike, sometimes execute

[spice hornet]

[spice hornet]

I am quite surprised to see how many warriors are on 3s ladder front page and many 2400+ in shuff rn when other better specs have maybe half the number, but indeed warrior Feelsbad, feels like I do the same dam as s1

[elfin surge]

is it just me or does it seem like arms war is official dead? u need a 10 button rotation to stand a chance of killing anything and if some1 presses 1 defensive or disable it's over , then u have to wait and survive atleast 40-100 seconds for your next window while u spend 80% of time running or disabled

[wind ridge]

is it just me or does it seem like arms war is official dead? u need a 10 button rotation to stand a chance of killing anything and if some1 presses 1 defensive or disable it's over , then u have to wait and survive atleast 40-100 seconds for your next window while u spend 80% of time running or disabled

[mild thunder]

I am quite surprised to see how many warriors are on 3s ladder front page and many 2400+ in shuff rn when other better specs have maybe half the number, but indeed warrior Feelsbad, feels like I do the same dam as s1

[hot solstice]

they need to remove nerf to ovepower stacks...idk why is that is still live...nobody plays crit nowadays besides its nerfed anyway

[hot solstice]

udk coil doing same damage as mortals trike+ leaving dot for 30% and hitting 2 targets

[spice hornet]

@ Arch when are you banning this guy hes australian, doesn't play wow, and mains roblox

[hot solstice]

2100 mmr 3s

2 previous games vs 2ble boomies

EU

[spice hornet]

lol yup

seems right

[opal acorn]

Why did they change the arena frames BTW

[spice hornet]

with the patch

they added their own

they suck

[mild thunder]

I’ve resubbed to wow

To play my ww

[spice hornet]

sounds about right

FoF dam is really good, RSK is like an unnerfed better version of MS that actually does damage, leg sweep is a better, easier to hit, longer shockwave and para is better than bolt

[mild thunder]

Ww also hasn’t had all its utility peeled back

[elfin surge]

ww is a better version of warrior we already know this

[mild thunder]

It also has a real rotation

[hot solstice]

ww spits on disarms btw

think about it

[mild thunder]

Unlike whatever the fuck warrior rotations are now

[spice hornet]

lol yup disarm does nothing

2 button drool specs rn

[mild thunder]

Hope both specs get reworked in 11.0

[spice hornet]

i love ret and hpal being everywhere

if i CS, target gets auto bopped and im cucked

[mild thunder]

Warr is a bigger meme than dh ever was

[spice hornet]

if i hold CS, bop never goes out and my damage is pathetic

[mild thunder]

LF boomy, dk or enh for ww pushes

(I am bad)

Maybe I try ww/feral

Surely that’s good… right?

[spice hornet]

I haven't seen a feral in awhile

for some reason

[hot solstice]

again

[scarlet flame]

[spice hornet]

balance actually got dam buffs

too funny

[sharp meteor]

Hate to see it.

[frosty nexus]

how we feeling in 10.1.5 boys

if i play arms am i griefing myself

[scarlet flame]

yes

[wet scarab]

this is why every aug lobby I played into last night had like 10 minute games

it feels like every SS lobby with an augvoker it makes sense to go after the healer instead

[thick reef]

So what you are saying is go 2x Prot Pally+Aug

[wet scarab]

exactly

so they have 2 empower spells on a 30 sec and 40 sec CD, and a 3 min CD to reset them, and there is no ICD on the buff

that's a lot of uptime

[spice hornet]

Prot does like no dam

[thick reef]

Neither will the other team with enough Vers lol

[spice hornet]

Prot takes extra damage though

Sucks ass

Maybe the aug buff will offset that but then you just have two prots that take dam, do no damage, and don’t do enough healing since they nerfed the healing really hard compared to slands

Too many wizard cleaves everywhere that do so much dam and splash dam with ease I don’t think the hps will keep up

[sharp meteor]

Kind of. Its damage hinges heavily on bodyguard.

Otherwise your only shot is like big Shockwave shield charge with all modifiers.

But yeah feels unplayable into wizards.

Oh, context. Didn't see Pala.

[hot solstice]

why even fix 10.1.5

[wheat jay]

that is the fix

dude...

[spice hornet]

Ohh he was talking about prot paladin

Oh I just saw your other message

But yeah prot warr feels good into an all melee lobby with no ret paladin

But anything else it’s quite an experience

Oh and everyone in the lobby hates you

[spice hornet]

Damn they are pushing content out pretty fast

[upbeat violet]

I dislike mages. I mean like really hate mages. Root, run, sheep, teleport, knock back, teleport, root, sheep, teleport…. Fire fire fire. Arggghhh

[spice hornet]

They indeed have too much mobility this expansion. Giving all of them displacement, blast wave, nova, is questionable. Especially frost hoky fuk

[scarlet flame]

-150 because my internet went out

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, prot into warrior, rogue, hunter, etc is just beautiful.

[sharp meteor]

Haven't had too much of this.

[upbeat violet]

They are impossible 1v1. I’m just a pvp’er for fun and nothing too serious but I can’t seem to ever catch up.

[river walrus]

Idk why they gave dragons breath to every spec, blast wave to every spec and displacement to every spec

Makes it very very intense trying to catch a mage

[spice hornet]

Warrior in general is not a good 1v1 class

[upbeat violet]

Agreed been playing since idk when but still so frustrating for it to be so one sided.

[spice hornet]

Yeah it’s lame I just don’t duel or 1v1

[hot solstice]

non crit 200k

[sharp meteor]

Just roll mm. 🧠

[elfin surge]

just q with one

[hot solstice]

I was 2200 in 2s today

now 2k

boomie hpala whole day

3 warrior teams

[elfin surge]

2s

[hot solstice]

lost to none

90k mortals

while magwes ray of frost ticks for more

boomie 15%

goes bear form- immortal

[elfin surge]

100k mortal strikes get nerfed instantly

[hot solstice]

like

[elfin surge]

but ww crits 250k rsk they get buffs

[hot solstice]

why wont u unnerf overpower stacks to begin with

seconf

target 30%

[elfin surge]

they want us to be bleed bots

[hot solstice]

5xexecutes

still alive

what the hell is that

[elfin surge]

@hot solstice show arms damage profile

[hot solstice]

where is draenor exeutes

[elfin surge]

i haven't played much arms this ssn

[hot solstice]

sec

maybe saved something

my details might show wrong dps

but

50k mortals

ah

i tried sks that game

one moment

[elfin surge]

man make mortal strike 40% of my damage

[elfin surge]

overpower does more dam than ms

[hot solstice]

better example

won this one

cause rsham was oom

[elfin surge]

man ms NEEDs to hit harder

80K??

[hot solstice]

yes

like

[elfin surge]

i stack 50 mods and 80k the best i can do?

[scarlet flame]

idk why mortal strike has such a huge range of damage

[hot solstice]

the only target that can get over 100k is dh or monk

[elfin surge]

rsk normal with no cds always more than 100k lol

[scarlet flame]

how can it crit for 80k on a lock one time but 140k on the same lock

[river walrus]

Lol mud, don't compare WW with broken classes like boomie and spriests

[hot solstice]

Like...I play warrior for a very long time

I know my shit

I cant beat math

[elfin surge]

[hot solstice]

tbh I cant get some warriors sayin arms is ok

like Laros

"its only other specs"

[unique fox]

Warrior definitely feels like it fell off as a class lol

[hot solstice]

like wtf u talk about

[unique fox]

Wet noodle arms spec or 2 button fury spec, take your pick

[elfin surge]

its laros lol what do u expect

[hot solstice]

at the same time

I go my enha

does about same as warrior damage

gets prock - shots target

[elfin surge]

everything does more damage than war

[scarlet flame]

imagine being a melee aff lock that does less damage

[hot solstice]

boomies today stun-incarn-fullmoon-bear-beear-bear-stun incarn-fullmoon -goodbye

[elfin surge]

we are prob in line for buffs soon

i imagine

which is good

[hot solstice]

hpalas......

[unique fox]

Just revert the 12 nerfs arms has received in DF and we'll be good

[hot solstice]

1 mi sacrifice

greater judgement

judgement absorbs next 80k damage

nice talent

[scarlet flame]

into fury arms

[unique fox]

Need to roll an UHDK for my 2h plate fix

[hot solstice]

btw

udk

coil does same damage as mortal

while it can burst 2 wounds

and do another 50-100k

[unique fox]

Yep

[hot solstice]

ye it still lives bad

but damage is good

[unique fox]

Arms is stuck in 2005

[scarlet flame]

[hot solstice]

supatease stream

is there any fix to hp bars bug?

[fickle forge]

What did you reflect?

[scarlet flame]

i have no clue

but it was up on CD

max was 100k

i think it was a moon from the boomkin

he stopped targeting me after he lost that round lmao

idk how it has 48 hits with only 3 casts and rebound but thats what it did

[hot solstice]

dots

[scarlet flame]

oh i reflected a ton of VTS and a 102k starsurge

[spice hornet]

our damage feels the same as season 1

[hot solstice]

gonna try make 30% mastery on arms

[spice hornet]

i felt terrible qing my warr main after playing alts all season, qing with buds and always at bottom of meters except in some cases where we steamrolled the enemy team, im like what am i doing wrong

[hot solstice]

doubt will change anything

[spice hornet]

the spec damage is pathetic, one small cd is enough to deal with arms. meanwhile retard ret pops 30 seconds wings and is doing 90k+ dps the entire time forcing multiple cds

[hot solstice]

and I am arms main

[spice hornet]

yep

first week of season, played warlock for less than 15 hours played at this point

you simply have no control of shuffle a majority of the time as arms. kit is ass in shuffle

[hot solstice]

https://twitter.com/sx6_magnusz/status/1679520586597277696?s=20

mag (@sx6_magnusz)

really enjoying 10.1.5 this games great! #LETSGOLIQUID

▶ Play video

Twitter · Jul 13, 2023, 3:58 PM

[weak wedge]

Depends on the lobby

But what I really don't understand is when I go 6/0 is no sweat play while petting the cat and drinking stuff

[spice hornet]

yeah, arms i feel like is at the mercy of the lobby composition more than any other spec

[weak wedge]

Then 1/5 AWC level plays but can't secure a kill

Or just get kited to death whole game

[spice hornet]

that's the warrior experience rn

[weak wedge]

Triple pala frost mage augvoker wasn't fun at all

[scarlet flame]

which would be worthwhile to level as alt and learn how to play between WW DK and boomkin

[spice hornet]

Any of those

All are better than warr

[scarlet flame]

can you send gold cross faction now if its on the same server

[sharp meteor]

You've been able to do that since sl I think.

[scarlet flame]

oh ok, i didnt play sl at all

[limber relic]

They made it so u can send gold cross realm

But on eu atleast its turned off cuz "server instability"

[scarlet flame]

EU got cucked like NA with the server reset that was unlucky

[limber relic]

Indie company

[hot solstice]

@elfin surge on demo

[gritty halo]

Anyone else feel like warr is garbage rn in SS? I’ve dropped from over 2k down to 1.8 just today. I can’t create any good pressure compared to everyone else in my lobby

[limber relic]

Yep

Worst melee class rn imo

[wheat jay]

Is it tho?

[limber relic]

Yep

[scarlet flame]

i think its better than outlaw rogue and frost dk

[limber relic]

Waow

[scarlet flame]

[limber relic]

Whole warrior class better than frost and outlaw

[wheat jay]

There's plenty of worse melees in ss above 2200

[limber relic]

Yeah im 2400 in ss

It stil shit

[wheat jay]

Arms is 3rd best melee spec in ss

[limber relic]

KEK

[wheat jay]

Casters are just superior

Still, arms is not bad

[scarlet flame]

its not good either

which means its bad

[wheat jay]

It is good, its not the best

[limber relic]

Ww, unholy, ret, sub are way better than arms and fury

[scarlet flame]

if you're not the best you're bad

thats how pvp works

[wheat jay]

Ret is

Ww is barely above in rep

Others are below

[limber relic]

No1 playi g ww but they are better

Also

Surv hunters

[scarlet flame]

surv hunters do a ton of damage

[wheat jay]

And still lower rep

[scarlet flame]

oh is this like populatiry contest

[limber relic]

Enhance is debatable but may be worse than warr in higher ratings

[wheat jay]

If survi was great everyone would play it

[scarlet flame]

if a lot of people like playing it its good

[wheat jay]

Pvp literally is a popularity contest

[limber relic]

Its not

[wheat jay]

Because people roll strongest specs

[scarlet flame]

so next week when ww and dk is more popular

and arms and fury tank

are they better then

[wheat jay]

If sth is popular, then its strong in current meta

[scarlet flame]

so its been what 3 days right

[wheat jay]

Just like balance is #1 now

[scarlet flame]

so in a week when everyone finally gets their characters up and in SS or whatever

are they only good then

[limber relic]

Sub is byfar thr best melee rn

But

[scarlet flame]

or are they good now

[sharp meteor]

Balance was also relatively unpopular last season despite having one of the highest shuffle cutoffs.

[limber relic]

U dont see them everywhere

Ww is same

Strong af but hard 2 play

[wheat jay]

We can look at 3s too if you want

[limber relic]

3s anf solo are 2 diffrent games

[wheat jay]

They are, ss favours zug zug sadly

[limber relic]

Ss favours cds

[wheat jay]

Well, yes

[limber relic]

I had a lobby with sp, ret, dk warr with 2 hpala

No1 can remove bop but sp

Sp dominates ez

Its rng

[wheat jay]

I dont think its because of bop removal

But because of sp just being very strong

[limber relic]

I mean. Sp can cycle through 4 bop + disp

[wheat jay]

Also, you can swap targets quite easily as warr, ret, dk

[scarlet flame]

standing still while a casters beats your face in with bop 🙂

[limber relic]

Ret + sp + hpala

4 bop swap disp

No chance

[wheat jay]

Unlucky lobby then

That's why ss sucks ass

[scarlet flame]

i like SS cause you can win lobbies you probably shouldnt and thats fun

but then you get into a lobby with 2 ranged that are good and you just dont play your character for 6 rounds

and thats not fun

[wheat jay]

That's why 3s are better, some comps work, some don't

You shouldnt play ones that dont

[scarlet flame]

i mean yeah 3s probably are better but you have to have friends to play 3s

[wheat jay]

Meanwhile in ss you can play worst comps at any time

Not too hard to lfg some people

[scarlet flame]

i think i sat in lfg for 7 hours yesterday and out of like 13 total groups at a time there was 2 guys looking for 3s

[wheat jay]

Make your own group, much faster

[scarlet flame]

finding 2s groups is pretty easy

[wheat jay]

Tru

But 2s is just sub/survi playground

As always

[scarlet flame]

yeah finding the sub guys is not fun

i got like 100 games on the warrior and for the most part there wasn't any shitter comps but thats all below 1700 so not much there

one of the first games was awful sub arcane but after that nothing too toxic

[wheat jay]

I quite enjoy sub games as survi

Its fast paced, all depends on outplaying

[scarlet flame]

interveneing a kidney on my healer is pretty fucking fun i can't lie

when you know a rogue is seething because you fucked up his go its like crack

[wheat jay]

I on the other hand love when warr intervrnes someone and they get hit with double bomb dmg

Whole 40k from TWO bombs

[scarlet flame]

haha yeah who would do that

👀

i've almost fuckin died so many times to your bombs

i got hit for 98k one time

[wheat jay]

Huh

[scarlet flame]

surv pumps its scary

[wheat jay]

How the fuck do I make bombs hit that hard?

Cuz I slap 25k bombs with all talents for them

[scarlet flame]

idk it was 1 surv i can remember playing against that almost double killed me in 2s cause of it

it stood out so i remember it

[wheat jay]

What?

Jesus

How?

[scarlet flame]

idk im a retard

i said damn wtf was that after the game was over and his bomb hit 98k on me

[wheat jay]

Wtf

[scarlet flame]

it humbles me that surv is actually scary

i think back to it to never underestimate hunters

[wheat jay]

Lol

Bro I never see that kind of dmg

How the fuck did he hit 100k bomb

U sure it was wildfire bomb?

[scarlet flame]

idk would it add up for double hit

[wheat jay]

No, it would hit twice for 25k

Or 2x 50k if it was to do 100k in one global

[scarlet flame]

i intervened to my druid and we both blew up and almost instantly died

[wheat jay]

It would do 0 dmg to your druid tho cuz you'd eat both hits

[scarlet flame]

well whatever the aoe thing is almost globaled me and the druid i was playing with lol

i was gunna intervene a trap and almost lost us the game on the spot

[wheat jay]

I need some of that survi oneshot burst

And then I need kargish to do more than 16k dps

[scarlet flame]

haha yeah who would do 16k dps

[wheat jay]

Arms with 0 gear

[scarlet flame]

me when i can't touch the other players

bruh one of the first SS games i played this season it was vs a lock arcane mage and mm hunter

holy fuck bruh i literally did like 2m total damage that entire match

[wheat jay]

Last SS i played was 45min queue into dc in 1st round

Into alt+f4

[scarlet flame]

yeah leavers in ss actually feel worse than any other place

[wheat jay]

Nothing I could have done

Dc and no internet for 30min

[scarlet flame]

yeah that happened to me today

got d/c lost 177 rating

[wheat jay]

Sadge

[scarlet flame]

not too bad because i went and got 66 of it back on the next ss

[lyric violet]

fury feels so fuckin terrible into a melee lobby

[hot solstice]

wound damage btw

[scarlet flame]

250%

[gritty halo]

down 300 points today as warr.wtf is this patch.

[spice hornet]

Warr didn’t end up scaling too well

[teal hedge]

Damn shame, dropping the game and hitting da indie-fields

[torpid bridge]

is murlok.io relevant anymore

[sharp meteor]

Warr has seen better days.

[sharp meteor]

It is not a bad place to start with kind of a broad strokes approach.

It'll give you an idea of what most people are often playing (or, rather, logging out in) and fromt here you can further investigate situational gear/talent or honor talent picks.

[spice hornet]

Saw some fried retard online claiming arms dam is really good

[unique fox]

Blizz is scared of wars being good for some reason

[fallen solar]

I just played some DH. It’s a way weaker fury. The survival is terrible on it. No wonder no one plays it.

[lean burrow]

I just played some WoW. It's a way weaker FF14. The one remaining dev is terrible on it. No wonder no one plays it.

[rapid dawn]

👆🏻

[mild thunder]

arms unironically does 10.0.5 dmg

endless dmg nerfs between 10.0.5 - 10.0.7 coupled with a shitty tier set and the crit nerfs completely gutted the spec's dmg

tbf im fine with the spec doing mid dmg, BUT it needs better utility than it has to make up for it

intervene is useless into casters and rally is barely noticeable

[spice hornet]

Yup

Facts yo

[supple galleon]

just went against mm hunter and blood dk in solo shuffle

i think i wanna take a bath with my toaster

[thick reef]

Was about to try and push from 1800 to 2100 again is the season really that bad for warrs?

[supple galleon]

caster meta still apparently and now there's augmentation evoker

[spice hornet]

2100 is free with just medium effort

Anything higher gets really annoying and hard to win

Arms dam is pretty noodle and good players are aware of this

[supple galleon]

I'd play arms if it had healing

[thick reef]

would you go fury for the climb in Soloshuffle? Did both arms n fury and fury seemed alot easier. Cheers for the reply

[supple galleon]

4/2 not bad

bro

[lucid walrus]

actually so real

play pink class. better range, utility and damage

[thick reef]

thats sad 😦

[quasi fossil]

Is it just me or does fury damage feel kinda meh?

[faint pumice]

Do mages now nova in our avatara? One specific mage kept freezing me in avatara…

He even whispered how do I like his kiting..

[wheat jay]

Normal stuff

[mild thunder]

cringe mage behaviour

"i can press frost nova during his CDs, im so good at the game!" 🤓 🤓 🤓

[scarlet flame]

just know hes a girly boy irl who can't bench the cheezit box off his chest it makes you feel better

[lean burrow]

what

avatar only removes roots

it doesn't prevent new root

[wheat jay]

I mean that's what you do

You dont tank someones cooldowns

[elfin surge]

word around is warrior getting buffs

to overpower and slam?

[wheat jay]

Warrior gonna do 30k dps now?

Or still 20?

[elfin surge]

i feel like i do good damage

was playing a lot of arms

just no big crits or ways to end the game

all pad

qd for 3 hours, not one warrior seen.

[mild thunder]

tentatively believing you

if they buff slam imma die inside tho

[elfin surge]

slam and overpower

is what ive heard

[mild thunder]

for slam to be viable, it needs like a 200% buff

[elfin surge]

we'll see tonight tho

[mild thunder]

damn, tonight?

bet

[elfin surge]

they usually announce pvp tuning friday nights

[mild thunder]

jwhat time is it in the US?

bec it's night time here now

[elfin surge]

5am here

[mild thunder]

ah

[lean burrow]

I moved and now I get 300 ms ping

how do I cope?

[mild thunder]

unplayable

where'd you move to

[lean burrow]

africa

[mild thunder]

🙏 🌧️ 🌍

[wheat jay]

Galachad

My dude

Do I roll dh?

[mild thunder]

you roll ww like me

this is the way

[wheat jay]

But dh is edgy

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/905959827891712050/1129313869060395048/image0.jpg

[mild thunder]

what's that

[wheat jay]

Dh class set

[mild thunder]

for what

[wheat jay]

For dh

[mild thunder]

where from

[wheat jay]

Wowhead

[mild thunder]

did you know

i hate you

[mild thunder]

it looks really cool tho, no lie

i wish there were more sets with that kinda pinkish/purple effect

[wheat jay]

I like the weap

[mild thunder]

monk one looks fucking insane

yes, i am going to be using this til the day i die

[frosty nexus]

yea i gotta play monk now just for that armour

its so good

[mild thunder]

coolest items in the game

[wheat jay]

Nah i like dh more

[mild thunder]

warr looks ass

shoulders should sit a little lower

[scarlet flame]

wait no 2h

i like that tbh

im a slut for plate i can't help it

[lean burrow]

still no elite pvp sword

[lean burrow]

that weapon would fit warden set from trader post

wait, wardens use some metal ring with spikes

nvm

[mild thunder]

pretty sure the weapon is coming as well, no?

[magic wing]

The current "elite" weapons are TRASH

[lean burrow]

i haven't seen

[magic wing]

nothing elite about them

[mild thunder]

real

i kinda like the monk set tho

[magic wing]

Yeah its nice, monks dont get alot of cool gear

[mild thunder]

back to back seasons of open feet sets

i hate it so much

[lean burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/sniff-emote-gif-21384473

[scarlet flame]

do i que ss with this gear

[mild thunder]

i mean, if you can queue shuffle then gear probably wont be an issue

[scarlet flame]

stfu about th emog

[mild thunder]

max ilvl diff will be 13

[scarlet flame]

that is true

[magic wing]

Pleb mog

Non elite

[scarlet flame]

the character is 5 hours old

[thick reef]

not good enough

[vapid tartan]

Damn these qs feel like shit

Can get pressure sure but it’s so hard to actually land a kill

[vapid tartan]

You playing 4p on arms?

[elfin surge]

ye

my gear is prob not the best

swapped my alt from fury

[vapid tartan]

On fury if you know you’re not kill target and gonna have good uptime is there any reason to take anni over rb build?

Was thinking annhi might be a bit easier to kill someone with since the bb is buffed more in exe but idk if it compares to rb damage in general

[scarlet flame]

why is it that every time i do skrims i am facing 2 ranged with another melee on my team

its literally every single time and i've done like 30 skrims

[iron fractal]

Horde: 7 healers. Alliance: 1 healer. gg balancing blizzard.

[scarlet flame]

how do you get the focus targets cast bar to show up

[river walrus]

Not sure, have to ask one of the guys that do all the math and shit

[elfin surge]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ObeseFamousTortoisePanicBasket-Szp8uSAkyJg6fTkU

@mild thunder

@spice hornet

[mild thunder]

i dont know whether to or

[elfin surge]

every warrior main is just alt f4ing in this meta

[mild thunder]

remember at the start of the season when laros was coping that arms was just as good as s1?

i remember

[elfin surge]

idk why he does that

when arms is F tier he will say its actually S tier

???

[mild thunder]

bro is an optimist (he's delusional)

[river walrus]

Play fury, arms sucks

[mild thunder]

play ww, warrior sucks

[spice hornet]

@elfin surge I can’t tell if larosnis good or if he just plays this game a fuckton

I do know he is cookified

[lean burrow]

ww = wawwiow

[mild thunder]

dont worry boysss

mud has assured me slam is getting buffed

all will be well

[elfin surge]

Hes gotten a lot better in DF. I don't think hes bad, I used to in unchained.

Last season was the first time he ended within the rank one cutoff. Both his other titles he got from DQs

Also heard his mop glad was piloted by reckful...

[mild thunder]

i wish @elfin surge would pilot my glad in return for the TWO prime subs i used for him

[elfin surge]

im an elite warrior, not good enough to be gladiator.

[mild thunder]

when do we queue ww/arms?

[spice hornet]

@mild thunder mud can’t carry anymore since shadowlands is over

Mud has been washed ever since

Carried by conq banner and necro ret paladin

[mild thunder]

who will carry me then?

[elfin surge]

says who

i peaked last ssn

[spice hornet]

Thiccbiscuit told me you suck balls now

[last turret]

depression for warrior both in pvp and pve

[magic wing]

Play classic

Only way to be ALPHA warrior is supposed to be

In both pve and pvp

[lean burrow]

warrior's class fantasy is being background character

cannon fodder

[magic wing]

Only in retail

[sharp meteor]

I wonder if they'll announce any PvP tuning today or let stuff cook for another week.

Can't remember what they did before but I thought it was at least two weeks.

[magic wing]

Warrior canon is in classic/ICC wotlk and ToS/Argus Legion

Swifty macroing other classes in one global is canon warrior

[spice hornet]

Yeah it seems to be a 2 week cadence as of late

If they do buff arms I’m just assuming we’re gonna see
“All ability damage increased by 4%”

[scarlet flame]

[lean burrow]

then we get people moaning "warriors are so OP"

[spice hornet]

People are saying that now

[sharp meteor]

A bunch of little 5% buffs to core stuff while the overperforming stuff is also getting knocked down doesn't seem unreasonable.

[spice hornet]

It’s fucken weird, like obviously they are not playing the game or are playing at 1400

[mild thunder]

dude

i dont understand

[magic wing]

I blame Galachad for this

[mild thunder]

how people get a kick out of oneshotting people 10 lvls below them in wpvp

[magic wing]

"Warrior is S++ class" and now look

[mild thunder]

bro, you've never peaked above 1200cr in 3s, go home

[spice hornet]

World pvp enjoyers are freaks

[magic wing]

Who cares bout 3s, most time spent in lfg

[spice hornet]

I love when I see someone say something like “warrior feels weak right now damage isn’t scaling well “ and someone replies “on my warrior I have no problem topping meters and landing kills in battlegrounds”

[scarlet flame]

[mild thunder]

[magic wing]

The 0,1% players always ruin the fun

And then dip to the meta class

[mild thunder]

the real 0.1% that ruin the fun are the bottom 0.1% that cry and bitch and moan on forums because they're retarded, lobotomised cringelords

[magic wing]

Those ppl opinion isnt respected by Blizzard

Unless its Spriest forum

[elfin surge]

They’re crying because Mage isn’t garbage for the first time in a long time and can actually stand on it’s own. They’re crying because Mage doesn’t instantly flop when it’s stared at too hard like they feel entitled to have it do. They’re crying because they can’t perma ignore the Mage all game and auto win on PvE damage.

I play HPriest for my main character. Mage right now has about the same level of tankiness as HPriest with less healing. HPriest performs stronger, outright, with the same gear. Holy Priest has more consistently functional Survivability with the same gear and does slightly over what Mage does.

Full stop, flat out, people are pissed because Mage isn’t garbage and is actually threatening + a solid DPS, the same as the other A and S tier specs. But people can’t handle that. They expect - they DEMAND - Mage be absolute trash at all times for reasons I’ve never fully been able to comprehend. Like they just feel like anyone who enjoys the class deserves to be treated like trash.

[mild thunder]

first time in a long time...

DF season 1

[fickle forge]

I don't think you understand how hard it is to play Fury Warrior. All this talk that we are "busted" and "constantly complaining for more buffs" just doesnt make sense. We are one of the few classes that FINALLY get to shine after all these years (looking at you MAGES ). Rotationally, its very complex for what we have to do to do "good" damage. Not only do we have to put Slaughterhouse on a lot of targets, we ALSO have to make sure our Crushing Blow is mashed AND our Winbringer is in the perfect angle to do ANY damage. We lose everything if enemies move at all. Classes like Mage and Hunter don't have to worry about enemies being smart like WE do. On top of all of this, the apm it takes to play Fury is more than any other class has ever been. We are constantly getting FLOODED with Crushing Blow charges and if we ever overcap, its gg (that means good game). When I'm playing fury, I'm never not pressing a button while mages get to sit there and hard cast Pyroblast (3 [three] second cast btw [by the way]). I'd like to see other people even try and compete with me as a Fury Warrior because they would crumble under the weight of all the responsibility, apm, and mental pressure it takes to pull off what I can do. Whatever, I'm out, I gotta go do some high queues now, pushing for that 2k (2,000 [two thousand]) rating, later nerds.

[spice hornet]

I love that pasta who made it

[scarlet flame]

both of them are great

[mild thunder]

My grandma makes the best pasta

[hot solstice]

Imagine comparing mages and hpriest survivability

[limber relic]

yeah ggs

warr is dead

[elfin surge]

war is so bad rn

its unreal

[lyric violet]

if they wanted to buff arms they could just give it like the ele style crit damage, where mortal strike can hit for a higher amount of crit dmg % then other abilities

or just buff impale talent

but yea war sucks rn its super not fun

[muted surge]

lies

just gid gud

[lyric violet]

💀

[green anchor]

fuck em

[muted surge]

so is arms realy bad or is it just a copy pasta

should i wait for patch before i play again ?:D

[wet scarab]

it's fun you can queue into frost mages all day and maintain 10% uptime which gives you time to clean the house during games and such

you dont really want to maintain uptime either anyway in between mage and boomkin kill windows every minute

[magic wing]

no it is not fun, reroll ranged wizard class

[hot solstice]

is there any fix for hp bars?

[shell spoke]

Attempting to get a shield swap macro to work in retail but its not swapping my weapon to a 1h and shield any ideas as to why this isnt working?

[spice hornet]

Why would you ever do that

[shell spoke]

i do pvp and its nice to use against rogues in an oh shit position

[spice hornet]

Some good warriors tried it when we first got block back and it was determined that due to the annoyances of swapping weapons, and the amount of pressure lost from not having a real wep especislly for fury, is not worth it

[shell spoke]

im arms and its for pvp

[muted surge]

you dont do that

[shell spoke]

enlightening experience so far i have to say

[muted surge]

like if you swap in combat

you can put on shield, have some sec cd to put on wep

then another 3 sec to swap back

and you cant MS with a 1h

which is all your dmg, its not wroth, especially bcs block is a joke anyway

[shell spoke]

that's fine its literally just for a final ditch effort to stay alive

[green wyvern]

swapping weapons triggers a gcd afaik

so you need multiple gcds

[muted surge]

your ditch effort is to go dstance

and if you get bursted by a rogue

you are stunned anyway

[shell spoke]

i understand what you are saying but i do just want the macro to work

[muted surge]

i mean

it doesnt

bcs it has a cd as i said

you cant change both weps in 1 macro

bcs of cd

you would need to use /equip shield

wait

/equip 1h

or you just use shield, get your block

do 0 dmg then

[shell spoke]

nah you can equip them both at the same time

[muted surge]

and after swap back to 2h

no you cant

[shell spoke]

i just tested it

again you can

[muted surge]

show me

[shell spoke]

sure call me

[muted surge]

im in general

[shell spoke]

^^ cant equip both in combat - apologies (didnt know that)

[robust hearth]

who can get me a decent fury warrior build just for solo shuffle im tryna just hit 1800 only for the elite tmog

havent touched warrior since beginning of season 1

[scarlet flame]

man dk is fun

its kinda weird how when a class isn't dogshit its fun to play

i have never once played dk in my entire life and i just boosted this character to 70 yesterday

[robust hearth]

is it really tht good now?

just unholy

or frost too?

[scarlet flame]

unholy

idk about frost

[wet scarab]

looks fun against casters but I feel like they melt when I focus them even with warrior noodle damage

[scarlet flame]

yeah warrior is tough

my very first shuffle 😭

[wet scarab]

rip

[scarlet flame]

bruh

[spice hornet]

1 hpal or any form of multiple paladins in shuff as arms is so awful

Your next 4 go’s are gonna get cucked

Miss the legendary that could proc CS on the target so much. We should have that talent instead of shitty ass unhinged

[wet scarab]

I feel like every focus target in hpal games immediately gets bop'ed like they have an infinite number of them

when it's two of them I just sit there like who will eventually die

[digital rover]

As a main DK i've seen a lot of Warriors using skull splitter build again. Did blizz change something to it to make it better?

[robust hearth]

any fury warrior builds?

[iron fractal]

As fury, should I craft a Titanic insight for my second ring to get mastery/versatility?

And add the thing that makes it 450 in pvp?

[spice hornet]

Hahah no way really

I haven’t seen any running it

Maybe they’re so desperate for some dam they’re trying it out

[weak wedge]

Did we stop using SKS ? 😅

[spice hornet]

Yeah

[digital rover]

so blade storm arms is the better build?

[spice hornet]

the thunderous roar no SKS build that is pinned is what ive seen everyone playing

sks probably isnt much behind, but most warrior mains dont like sks. it feels bad

[lyric violet]

feels clunky

[digital rover]

which build is that?

[lyric violet]

I wish arms got blood rage

be amazing

[spice hornet]

Thunderous Roar + No Skullsplitter
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yeah br would be soo nice for arms

then I wouldn't have to play ugly ass gnome

[lyric violet]

not only that but i wouldnt have to sit in 3 whole ass mins of cc in a 7min game

[weak wedge]

As clunky as SKS is, I played a few games without it and missed it a few times tho