pvp

[toxic hollow]

hello there , coming back to wow, is it easier to push SS as arms or fury right now ? 🙂

[undone sage]

got that question too. apparently some fury talent is bugged, but fury seeming to be better? cuz of set?

[bitter walrus]

bump

[vapid tartan]

It works you just need to track if it’s rb or crushing

[spice hornet]

Ewww you play fury? Unsubbed

Boomie needs to be really good for this comp to work

[undone sage]

aah I see. Ok thanks :)

[hexed ether]

do you know the general knowledge the boomie needs to know to be good for this comp?

[vapid tartan]

You want to cc the healer instead of kt 9/10 times. Try to get their trinket and chain cc with your teammate with bolt/fear. You don’t want to 2x op unless you have to always ms on cd

[boreal leaf]

How do I beat a mage in PvP?

[stable siren]

man im just really stuggling aganist double ranged

[fresh valve]

fury best spec in the game

[lyric violet]

❌

[fresh valve]

fury and DH's

[indigo barn]

Which spec? Because you can mongo run down fire till 2100

[bitter walrus]

Thank you

[unique fox]

Just had a 2s game vs demo/resto druid where I ate 66 CC's and still won

Eat shit

Bloodthirst spam build reigns supreme

[faint pumice]

Does fury anni needs execute in rotation? I always feel like I have other buttons to press which deal more damage. Execute deals like 13-17k damage and restores 20 rage with a talent.

[leaden pasture]

hi are we suppose to copy talents gear with stats and pvp talents from the majority of the crowd on murlok site or just copy everything from magnus only

for 3v3 arena

[neat plinth]

do you ever click thunderclap in pvp

or do you just spend the global on rend

[lucid walrus]

i don't click anything personally

[opal acorn]

I just use tc

[muted surge]

I mean, if you skill it you prob want to use it right

[undone pumice]

use pedals and stomp on them

[magic oasis]

what should i buy first with conquer?

conquest*

[grand scaffold]

onslaught or annihilator

[quaint osprey]

you can have both

onslaught is usually picked against odyns fury

[grand scaffold]

so whats the best build atm

[faint pumice]

I do run this one https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/fury/DAPFVUUVFUQUQQpFQRBUPVVFRUZEAVAoRREQBQDg0NhhQVOhWLm

[grand scaffold]

how does dmg feel without odyns fury

its usually like my #3 or #4 dmg in shuffle

[faint pumice]

IMHO: I do not feel power of odyns fury, dots are always high in recount, like rend for arms, but it doesn’t secure kills, it’s like passive pressure.
When I play against mages I swap onslaught on OF for mobility.

[grand scaffold]

idk i find thunderclap rend crazy

its like #2 dmg

[limber relic]

yo guys we live if u wanna join ❤️

if im not allowed to say this then lemme know ill remove it

[spice hornet]

i swear dps warrior is the most unfun spec of all DPS in shuff

youre just a zug monkey thats it. every other spec has some sort of game changing kit on their own, ww/ret/fire mage tier burst, spammable CC, immunities big team defensives

even BM hunter is more engaging because it end games with traps

ooop teammate got stunned press my yellow bind to intervene him stand next to him 3 seconds and back to zugging

[dreamy moat]

weapon

[spice hornet]

why does cloak remove disarm

lmfao

[mild thunder]

@spiral elbowgofury

Bro why does he keep joining and immediately leaving

[lean burrow]

He rerolled rogue

Going stealth

[near delta]

Cause blizz is clueless lol

[lilac basin]

quick question and apologies if this has been asked before but how do you break out of roots and slows as fury?

getting shit on by MM and Frost mage

[spice hornet]

bloodrage talent

[gray umbra]

By staying enraged. Bloodragr pvp talent too. Being a gnome helps too

[lilac basin]

thanks bloodrage seems to be helping against range. rather die than play gnome tho lol

[gray umbra]

pshh gnomes bis af

[spice hornet]

this game is so awful

7 games at 2100

6 of them are some doube wizard of the following: ele/boomy/demo/spriest

1 rmp

[undone pumice]

bis toilets

[open ridge]

New to pvp, so bear with me.
why take slam talent? Why no shockwave?

[muted surge]

No one takes slam, it’s shit

The build he runs is scuffed

[faint pumice]

I am playing with shammy and dh, we have plenty of aoe stuns, that’s why

[rough spruce]

hey team, im a returning player and im looking to know if enha shamans are any good for turbo right now ?

[muted surge]

Nah I usually play turbo without enh

[faint pumice]

Shutter, slam and intervene are swapping depend on a comp we are playing against. I do swap them for movement speed/concussive/honed reflexes (in a rare case bitter immunity and inspiring presence)

[radiant hamlet]

Hey guys, most streams ive seen and the people i've asked have all been telling me the same thing, its that warrior in solo shuffle feels bad in the way that you dont really contribute much and cannot land kills on your own

is that true

does it feel bad to play in RSS?

Like, you dont have setups that you can do or if you see someone trinketed air, you can abuse later on in the game

you're just pressing W and hoping for someone to die

obviously that might be wrong hence why im asking here

i really want to gear up my war but i dont want to feel that way in solo shuff

[mild thunder]

how did someone like you get to 2100

[mild thunder]

even if warr isn't the most broken class in soloQ, this really only matters at high rating... if you're pushing for a seasonal 1800, getting that vicious mount or just generally not aiming for r1, then you're going to be in games where kill opportunities are plentiful and your room for dominating other players via skill expression is going to be large

dont fall for the trap of r1 whinging

[spice hornet]

Yeah I was crying about this earlier, feels like warrior has the least impact in shuffle environment

Why is this fried Aussie always on playing roblox hasn’t touched wow once @mild thunder

[mild thunder]

ive been touching your mum instead

[spice hornet]

Hot

[radiant hamlet]

I mean 2.1 right now feels close to r1 levels due to how deflated the season is 😂

1.8 is relatively easy i already hit that first week, but duelist this time feels like it needs some serious grinding

[dreamy moat]

is adaptation even viable anymore

priest in ss was using it

whinging to me about watching him for cc

[quiet furnace]

anyone here on EU alliance looking to do the lord/lady of war achievment? Got a discord for it :heCrazy:

[minor vector]

Adapt has never been viable

[paper coyote]

[stable siren]

35 min in que

do i relist

or fuck it we ball

popped as i bitched

bitched for nothing! was an ez dub

[stable siren]

last 3 matches someone left be4 the game started maybe 1 more try and then breaj

[weak wedge]

At least you're only losing time, got in with 2 prots, mage sp and ret

[midnight zinc]

Hey i see you can get raid tier sets but for pvp? how does that work i see you get a token for 1600, how do you normally get them through pvp?

[muted surge]

Vault and catalyst

[pale minnow]

Guys quick question, do you use 4 tier sets as arms or not?

[muted surge]

I don’t, but I’m hard stuck 1600

[midnight zinc]

how does it work through the catalyst?

i havent used it before

[muted surge]

You put item in

Get item out

[midnight zinc]

to get a tier set would i be putting in the piece i buy with conquest then take it to it?

i imagine it wouldnt work with honor gear

[muted surge]

Not sure about honor, but that would be a waste anyway

The f stalest has charges, you get 1 per week

[midnight zinc]

f stalest? so ideally i get my conquest gear then take it to the catalyst and boom tier set? do they charges stack ?

since i never used it, would i have bank?

[stable siren]

went 1 and 5

got 18 raiting

what a weird game

question, when swapping out of unhinged what should i swap 2

[wet scarab]

Yes you should have 4 charges by now, they accumulate automatically every week, capped at 6

Just plug the conquest pieces you want to convert into tier and transform them and you’re done. No special currency or anything

[midnight zinc]

thanks @wet scarab !

[wet scarab]

Any time

[gritty halo]

Can anyone recommend some good warriors to watch that stream pvp?

[rotund trellis]

Yo I'm back with a bang

[rotund trellis]

and apparently still got it

[mild thunder]

Bajheera, Mud (he never streams), Magnusz, Larosx

Bajheera’s the most entertaining and has the best content, but he’s a step down from someone like Magnusz if you’re wanting to learn

He also ragequits casual bgs if he gets farmed

[spice hornet]

Galachad is also a helpful warrior in the community he makes unique sleeper builds

[mild thunder]

mashallah 🙏

i think im coming back with midseason patch

[spice hornet]

[warped crypt]

hi guys i switched from pve to pve but there is problem that my hp low and my gear is mixed pve and pvp my hp 560k and i see warrior my gear batter than him and he have higher HP any one can help me ?

[spice hornet]

Does @elfin surge even play this shit anymore

[mild thunder]

this gives me such mixed emotions

[mint pulsar]

Yo fellow warrior slapper friends! Returning arms here. Looked at murlok io and seems that people swaped away from skullsplitter? Also, hard to figure out if 4pcs worth and what slots. Any help and reason behind changes? Ty!

[spice hornet]

Skullsplitter nerfed arms isn’t allowed to have kill potential unless it’s after stacking fatal mark by being a zug bot and the target being below 30% or w/e

Mean shadow priest and boomy are out daming me most of the match while being just as tanky if not more

[muted surge]

Imagine wanting sks tho

Shit skill

[spice hornet]

Indeed it felt bad to play

[muted surge]

But yea we lost burst

[mint pulsar]

Arms state atm then? Seems OK?

I mean its not DK...

[muted surge]

Yes

[mint pulsar]

Full on haste, rest mastery?

Or certain breakpoints?

[opal acorn]

I am running mastery, it seems strong 🤷🏼‍♀️

[dreamy moat]

these fucking priests running adapt

fucking morons

[indigo barn]

Found the crafted engineering bracers can give the same amount, if not more mastery then wep

[whole quartz]

depends who you ask and tbh if ure going for bleed heavy or not
but whatever you do haste is currently preferred over mastery or crit yes

[mint pulsar]

Ty for response

[dry bane]

Does arms warrior want 4 set?

or just 2 set?

[desert meadow]

I think most use 4 set and go mastery off pieces with a full bleed build

At least that's what I got from murlok io some hours ago

[dry bane]

Right was gna ask u this question

Rn i have a lot of haste

i see some ppl going whirlwind

but then im seeing this SkullSplitter build

Where ur bleed does massive dmg

[dry bane]

maybe you can chime in on this?

Just went from Fury to Arms

Heard people saying Arms>Fury so I thought lemme give it a try

[whole quartz]

icyveins says uoull want full conquest armor which rules out the set bonuses
the set bonuses go for crit
if you run crit build you could go for that
if you run haste>mast>crit i dont really see it

[dry bane]

Ah shit currently have a 2 set

Yeah I pretty much do have Haste>Mast>Crit

[whole quartz]

no one rlly dictates what you should play
see what works for you

i dknt run SKS because it feels weird

[dry bane]

Gotchya

I'll probably run this then

but what i want to know at least is

if im not doing the bleed build

should i only have 2 set, 4 set or no set?

[whole quartz]

are you going to be focussing on getting crits?

[dry bane]

I got no clue just moved to this class xD

legit just switched from fury to warrior

i know on fury u only need 2 set

[whole quartz]

if uou build haste>mast>crit the tier set bonus makes no sense
cuz you’ll hardly ever crit

[dry bane]

ah gotchya

[whole quartz]

and 4set does nothing unless u crit

[dry bane]

yh so i should be full conq

thanks for clearing it up 😄

[whole quartz]

you’re welcome

[dry bane]

last question from me, why do people say Arms>Fury?

is it because of the btr defensives?

or is it cuz sharpen blade is btr ?

[whole quartz]

people simply hate on fury because its whack-a-mole spec
sharpen blade is the highest healing reduction ingame

MS only does 25% in pvp and with SB it goes back up to 50

[dry bane]

does sharpen blade not work

if theres someone else with a healing reduction in the team

eg rogue wound poison

[whole quartz]

only the most potent applies

which would be a SB MS

[dry bane]

gotchya

so rn im doing this

Overpower 2x - All in Macro - SB MS, Rend, Roar

[muted surge]

why be happy if you can be ill

[whole quartz]

can you even do sequenced casts in macros

[muted surge]

yes but

if you play fury you already lose iq

and if you add sequence macors

you can just straight up vote for trump

[dry bane]

ye

works 😄

[whole quartz]

what an odd thing to say

[muted surge]

why

that channel is about politics

[whole quartz]

i dknt like the idea of a sequence macro
if uou get stunned halfway through it doesnt go off and you might even nit know what did

[dry bane]

ye but apart from that

it's p much what im supposed to do right?

[muted surge]

does avatgar always have a 90 sec cd

[dry bane]

ye

[whole quartz]

you might wanna press a defense or trinket in between instead of TR
never know

[fickle forge]

What slot craft Unity?

[muted surge]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/crafting-unity-advice-on-best-slot-to-craft-your-second-legendary-in-patch-9-2-326427

here

[fickle forge]

Thanks bro

[dry bane]

do u p much stay in defensive stance

as an arms

never seen an arms go attack stance

[muted surge]

no ?

[dry bane]

oh tf played 3's yday

all arms stayed in def

[fickle forge]

[whole quartz]

go def if u cant deal more damage than you’ll take
dont sit in it

[muted surge]

/castsequence reset 6 Mortal strike Def Stance IP OP OP B Stance

i wrote a macro for you

[whole quartz]

write the macro that will
SB spellblock charge OP IP OP MS rend avatar KS TR IP bladestorm

ez pvp solved as pve pack it up

[spice hornet]

Anyone have any bis macros for arms?

[muted surge]

/afk ?

[spice hornet]

That helped ty the game just became more enjoyable

[wheat jay]

Maybe say what you need?

I remember
#showtooltip
/Cast overpower
/Cast ignore pain

[dreamy moat]

not arms specific but I used this formula to make an EditMacro that changes my /focus arena1/2/3 by clicking it instead of changing it manually

nice quality of life thing

it's pretty much bajheera's ms macro

[gaunt scaffold]

You guys see the arms warrior nerfs

[gaunt scaffold]

Spec slam now

[stable siren]

Fury fun

[gaunt scaffold]

Yeah

[stable siren]

although with arms im not enjoying unhinged, i feel like a lot of classes summon little bastards that eat the extr ams

[gaunt scaffold]

Yep

[stable siren]

im just not sure what to replace it with when i drop it

[stable siren]

Fuck it single minded fury time if im throwing away points ill do it in style

[lean burrow]

looks like arms is slowly becoming shit tier

[gaunt scaffold]

“MS damage is too spikey so we blanket nerfed the spec so it does no damage”

[stable siren]

i feel like a glorified suport spec

squisher then an spriest less utility then a maeg

[mild thunder]

These are from a decade ago

[gaunt scaffold]

weird was in the 10.1.5 notes

[mild thunder]

No clue what patch notes you’re looking at

[gaunt scaffold]

me either

[stable siren]

intresting my bladestorm wa dosent track my bs correctly when using hurricane guess its a sign from the gods

[mild thunder]

Don’t use hurricane

[stable siren]

/salute

[unique fox]

Executioners precision got somewhat unnerfed didnt it?

[mild thunder]

No, it’s 10% per stack

[spice hornet]

Is this old?

[spice hornet]

Unhinged is such a shitty capstone talent

Of all that talesnts they could’ve put in they put that garbage

Way way way too many minions, so many specs have them

[gaunt scaffold]

seems so

[spice hornet]

anyone else feel warrior damage is kind of dog shit rn

just get an spriest, ele, aff lobby and im bottom damn every time when they arent even really peeling

[lucid walrus]

playing ret rn feels like SL s1 warrior except inverted in some ways

[spice hornet]

yup

[stable siren]

i feel like the sustain is ok, but i just dont feel like i can keep up with the giga burst of other classes

[green anchor]

Is Ele and Balance still broken?

[mint pulsar]

S-tier yeah

[hot solstice]

Either I am boosted monkey or arms in shuffle is unplayable

[wheat jay]

Why not both?

Also shuffle

[hot solstice]

Cba, I feel like anything I do doesnt matter at all

some fire mage just goes shuffle tops meters with ignite and make a kill after random poly

mount run - blink - charge - blink - charge - displacement - leap - knock back

[mild thunder]

shuffle

fake gamemode

fake pvp

[wheat jay]

I did some 2s yesterday

I still got it

Im not washed yet

[mild thunder]

arms 2s?

or sv

[hot solstice]

2s is actualy pleasant to play

wish they made some good rewards for 2s

unless its some war/hunt+rdruid

[mild thunder]

nah

they need to peel back brackets

pvp doesnt have the playerbase to support casual bgs, skirms, rbgs, 3s, 2s, soloQ

[hot solstice]

talkin about that kind of rdruids that full hot and stay drink round da pillar whole game

[wheat jay]

Sv

After that I played some 2s with guildie

Hpala

[hot solstice]

feel like they need rework mobility of classes acording to cc changes

[wheat jay]

Without pvp gear

[mild thunder]

isnt sv like a top tier spec atm?

typical artji fotm

[hot solstice]

not with hpala

but still strong

[wheat jay]

Since s2 shadowlands i guess

[mild thunder]

frrrr

[wheat jay]

Fotm Rolling to survi for 5 seasons now

[mild thunder]

and playing the most meta comp

kfc

gross

[hot solstice]

surprisingly

one prock is all it takes

[wheat jay]

Busted, I know

I just cheesed my way to glad with the most broken comp

Yep yep

Kargish was just buffing me with conq banner and I oneshot everyone with 5 rng killshots in a row

[green anchor]

Will stick to D4 then

[quaint snow]

https://check-pvp.fr/tw/Shadowmoon/温柔小滨滨

nice Rating, obv. nothing Shady here…. 🤔

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/tw/shadowmoon/温柔小滨滨

you are only 2.4 rbg rating you noob? Get on my lvl im 5k !

[mild thunder]

most legit chinese player

[dry bane]

Hey guys

how do i cancel

bladestorm?

[desert meadow]

/cancelaura bladestorm

[hard vector]

you cant cancel blade what i know anymore

[teal hedge]

Yes you can

[dry bane]

Sweet also

for FUry

2 set or 4 set?

Not sure if we're running onslaught or not

[hard vector]

my macro have not worket for whole dragonflight what macro do you use then? Nwm it was [Hurricane] that stopped it -.-

[teal hedge]

Very well

[dry bane]

Will rampage

not stack

if im playing with a DH

[mild thunder]

slaughterhouse doesnt stack if there are any other ms effects on your team

[dry bane]

ms?

[mild thunder]

mortal strike

[dry bane]

also was gna ask if I should go 4 set or 2 set

ahh

[dry bane]

and also if i should go this:

or

[mild thunder]

onslaught pretty bad for anni builds, so id go the 2nd

[dry bane]

yh i mean

i have currently 2 set

but I can get a 4 set

just want to know what is best 😄

[vapid tartan]

You’ve gotta be memeing that’s the most dogshit macro ever

[heavy crown]

arms or fury for pvp ?

[quaint osprey]

id say both are pretty equal atm, fury is just more expensive due to 2x 2hander

[desert meadow]

you can go either 0, 2 set or 4 set, just need to change gear and talents accordingly

currently trying 0 set full mastery and ive seen mud on stream doing the same so i guess it was not that stupid of an idea

hated 4 set tho but its personnal preference

[desert meadow]

you think onslaught not good with anni ? I kinda liked it when it does crit it goes hard

or is it more adding a button to that spec is kinda stupid since ur supposed to spam bt/bb ?

[dry bane]

what talents does Mud run?

[magic wing]

Windwalker talents

[river walrus]

Hahaha

Mud is a WW main

[elfin surge]

no im not

[lean burrow]

[hot solstice]

after Mud tried 2ble dagger fury he secretly started maining rogue

[green anchor]

wtf

ban him

[teal hedge]

70kg bench pb

Holy crap lois

[wheat jay]

Gz

[teal hedge]

If I'm unlucky I'm it wit da tendonitis again, feels iffy

Hopefully we good, gonna eat a lot and eat anti-inflammatory meds

[desert meadow]

mostly standard fury build with OF from what i've seen

[faint pumice]

How would talents look in 4 set case?

[stuck moss]

so im confused, the website says vers crit but the pinned says vers haste. which is it.

[lean burrow]

stack haste then mastery on arms

stack mastery then haste on fury

vers comes naturally

[stuck moss]

so basically try for vers haste pieces and which ever ones i cant get haste get mastery

[grand scaffold]

shadowflame wreath or sophic

[grand scaffold]

you get less value from slaughering strikes defeats the purpose of getting onslaught

and tenderize

[teal hedge]

We run mast on arms???

[lean burrow]

anyone runs crit?

idk

[desert meadow]

You would want to go RB/onslaught and use BT when 4 set stacked I guess

[elfin surge]

i just q rbgs on warrior now

30-0

[quaint osprey]

When they put in a 200 cr healer in your lobby and still give you 0 cr for 3 wins

nice system

shouldve won the games without a heal

[bright dirge]

going 3-3 isnt a win lol

its just a draw

[lean burrow]

if you go 3-3 in caster lobby

it's a win

[wheat jay]

Ye but you played solo shuffle

So you lost

[urban wind]

I feel like I must be blind but can anyone point me in the right direction for pvp fury rotations/ability prios?

[quaint osprey]

If everyone except one heal has 3 wins And the heal 0

Should get at least 5 points

[rotund trellis]

YAS

[sharp meteor]

Congrats on the set.

[fresh valve]

welcome back

[rotund trellis]

thanks!

[spice hornet]

wheres bruin

[mild thunder]

He’s already gone again

[whole tulip]

Rough, I got a question if anyone's out there? Kinda around the 1900-2k range and I'm like...2-3m on damage behind as fury, Am I just not pressing rampage enough? Like I feel like something is terribly wrong

[rotund trellis]

are you pressing both charges of bloodbath before rampaging?

[whole tulip]

maybe not?

[rotund trellis]

try that

[whole tulip]

Is there any timing for Onslaught?

[rotund trellis]

I prioritize bloodbath over everything

[whole tulip]

Or just press on cd

[rotund trellis]

I use odyn, used to use ons, but it didn't fit in my rotation

[whole tulip]

Goccha

[rotund trellis]

maybe just when you have to really train a single target for the entire game

[whole tulip]

live fury v fury?

like*

[rotund trellis]

I don't know like when there's a DK and a weak ranged LOL

[whole tulip]

Running the improved raging blow build

and it seemed to do more dps than the odyn's/Annihilator build

[kind canopy]

yo whats the word on crafted gear

what should i be getting

[rotund trellis]

helm boots ring I guess?

[kind canopy]

what embelish fpr crafterd?

[rotund trellis]

fpr?

[whole tulip]

I have sporecloak

only problem is it feels useless if they don't go me

[kind canopy]

wahts fpr

[rotund trellis]

go scalewarden drape

or obs glad shawl

[rotund trellis]

are we running any embellishment on the ring?

[gaunt scaffold]

dude warrior is fucking trash

how are you supposed to climb when you get perma slowed and you hit with a pool noodle

[spice hornet]

warrior does feel really unfun rn

[mild thunder]

you can 1v1 ww tho

@elfin surge are you still a ww main

[elfin surge]

sup

[mild thunder]

sup homie, gang gang

[hard vector]

well this lobby went not that i planned when i entred xD

[neat plinth]

what talents with no 4 set? 3s/ shuff

[muted surge]

for prot ?

[neat plinth]

arms

[muted surge]

set does not change the build

[neat plinth]

which build is best atm

[muted surge]

[neat plinth]

r1 in 3s is running this

whats the playstyle diff between skullsplitter and not

[muted surge]

in 1 you time your burst with bleeds and get cancer by pressing sks

and the other is fun

[neat plinth]

so no sks better

lo

l

[muted surge]

sks isnt better

but it doesnt matter what you play

[neat plinth]

yeah the non skullsplitter thunderous roar build better?

[muted surge]

it just not fun to play

[neat plinth]

we never press ww do we

[muted surge]

nope

[neat plinth]

anything else off the bars?

[muted surge]

(well you could use it if you know a stealther is close)

[scarlet flame]

if i have 4 set tokens saved up and am grinding conquest gear, is it a better investment to get the 4 piece first or weapon first

[muted surge]

arms fury ?

prot?

4 set isnt worth a big ilvl loss, so depends on your tokens

and wep is best dps upgrade

[scarlet flame]

arms

i have full honor gear and crafted boots rn

but i saw i had the 4 set upgrade tokens saved up

[muted surge]

what do you mean with upgrade tokens

[scarlet flame]

the catalyst shit

to turn the conq gear into set items

[muted surge]

i would get 2 set -> wep

or gamble for wep in next vault

bcs you dont need the dmg on low rating anyway

[scarlet flame]

yeah i was grinding 2s with no gear for conq i have not gone into shuffle atm

wanted to wait until i had more purples

also whats the second crafted item is a helm like last time

i haven't played since like the start of s1

[lyric violet]

2k rating hunter and 2k rating pally in my lobby both just decide not to hit turtle/bubble while on my team and die to rogue opener

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-merde-shit-chier-nervous-gif-21201350

3 rounds 1 rating gained

we outside

[mild thunder]

and then they become defensive fucking gods that belong in the awc when they're on the opposite team

[lyric violet]

yes

LOL

literally guy was using all his blessings at the perfect time on the other team

[mild thunder]

i remember having an rdru on my team that didnt know what ironbark was, and i was screaming at him to use it for 4 rounds

[lyric violet]

hunter landing traps and shit

my side

[mild thunder]

last two rounds we're versing and he finally figured it out

[lyric violet]

hes like im not a dog

i cant bark bro

im a cat

[mild thunder]

he kept saying "i dont have rage to use it"

BRO I DONT FUCKING MEAN IRONFUR YOU FUCKING RTEHEQATTJRSWYJRSW

[lyric violet]

NPC

"I cant do that right now"

"Not in range"

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-why-pepe-pepehands-crying-gif-12683546

[lyric violet]

its okay atleast i wasnt cc'ed 42 times in 7 mins again

[mild thunder]

sstarting to really question why i resubbed this week

tbf i resubbed and rerolled sub but i honestly cannot be FUCKED to level my rogue

[scarlet flame]

i get the urge to play everytime an awc cup is around so i play for 2 weeks then quit again

[mild thunder]

arms is just so incredibly boring rn

[teal hedge]

I agree

[mild thunder]

ye, for me it was just my friend kept messaging me about 3s and i started to get that thirst again

i yearn for the arena

[scarlet flame]

then you play again and you're like damn i remember why i quit huh

[teal hedge]

So true bestie

[mild thunder]

truuuu, and i know im gonna ditch as soon as d4 season starts anyway

[scarlet flame]

i really love wow pvp, its very fun

i really dont like how op some classes are every season that makes it not fun to play

and im a melee cuck

[teal hedge]

Not one single game has been able to scratch the wow-itch

Simple as

[scarlet flame]

the only pvp i honestly enjoy

i just had some like 800 cr 2s game and this warlock didn't take any damage at all from me and a spriest, and i was telling the priest damn i can't wait for them to get nerfed and he told me they had already gotten nerfed

and i just very much dislike how tanky a cloth class can be

[teal hedge]

Yeah

[scarlet flame]

when i fold like paper vs 2 dps and i have armor on

i look at dks and i feel even worse for them

demon hunters aren't people so idc about them

[mild thunder]

the best part about wow pvp is how unique it is
the worst part about wow pvp is how unique it is because no game will ever seek to compete, but blizz will never care enough to capitalise on its awesome potential

so we'll live with the lacklustre shell of what could be a great gamemode

[scarlet flame]

you explained it perfectly

tbh

honestly d4 reminds me of wow pvp

the game is almost perfect

just a little bit more effort into it and it would be the best arpg you could play imo

and i have 14k hours into poe

[mild thunder]

it's the perfect combination of mechanical skill + game knowledge + awareness + loadout building and a bunch of other things

and it's so fun

but then you get patches like 10.0.7 and you question reality

if you're a us/eu player id definitely look at lost ark tho... ive seen a fair bit of the pvp in that game and it looks incredibly fun

[scarlet flame]

i played lost ark super sweaty for about 2 months

then they released that raid and there was no shot i was gunna do it in pugs

so i quit lmfao

[mild thunder]

i played it for a while during the major western release, but then i started getting hardcore ping diffed in pvp and ragequit the game

gw2 and lost ark will always be 2 of my favourite games tho... im just eternally bound to never play them

they also have 2 of my favourite warrior-style classes in any game

wow warrior just doesnt feel particularly satisfying in terms of fantasy

[viscid bluff]

Do you play Spear or TR with SkS?

[mild thunder]

TR

spear straightup bad now

[urban skiff]

Just a few more days until we get to deal with auggies

[scarlet flame]

im glad to see fatal mark is still the bis talent

[urban skiff]

I'm straight up rerolling auggie and riding the coat tails of enh. I'll be a winfury totem

[viscid bluff]

ty

new to pvp

[scarlet flame]

thats true, i like bleeds but i feel like a squishy bitch and i sometimes feel like my damage is lower than pretty much any caster

[urban skiff]

I think fury is pretty close to feeling satisfying in terms of fantasy

It just needs to not be rooted or slowed as much

Lean into the braindead rage

[scarlet flame]

idk if i could every play fury again

[viscid bluff]

many why does warrior have so many fucking abilities

my keybinds are crying

[urban skiff]

what?

On first action bar you put bloodthirst

on next action bar you put rampage

[viscid bluff]

I'm arms

[mild thunder]

when i play d4 barb, i feel like a big, muscley fucking gigachad that eats bears and shits hammers
when i play arms warr, i feel like a cuck crying in the corner while cc'd watching the rogues and mages actually play the game

[scarlet flame]

yup

[urban skiff]

what build? I can't seem to connect with barb while levelling, all feels neutered and weak.

[scarlet flame]

level has hota

then either continue as hota or go WW

[urban skiff]

WW was a miserable experience

[scarlet flame]

you swap into WW

[mild thunder]

i went to like 30 or 40 as rend

[scarlet flame]

you dont level as WW

[mild thunder]

then swapped to hota

[urban skiff]

Hota feels like a worse upheaval

[mild thunder]

rend and hota are both super fun, but hota is a LOT better

[scarlet flame]

you need the aspect

get it from the dungeon then use it

[mild thunder]

whirlwind is for cucks and fury mains

hota is for chads

[urban skiff]

Meanwhile my druid absolutely slams everything with landslide crits

[mild thunder]

rend is for intellectuals

[urban skiff]

The power difference is just ridiculous

[mild thunder]

the gentle, inspired barbarians

[mild thunder]

hota is a dead build unless you have the aoe aspect, and then a few others really make it start to pump

also needs the key passive

[urban skiff]

Probably the lack of key passive that's killing it for me

[scarlet flame]

it is almost triple damage

so yeah

[mild thunder]

makes it a lot more fluid too

otherwise you have too much rage to use it efficiently

[magic wing]

I play necro

[scarlet flame]

level with ancients too

[magic wing]

Spear all day

[urban skiff]

My wife is soloing everything on screen as rogue and I just fuck with a lone skeleton in the corner

[scarlet flame]

ancients is op for fury gen with talent at the end

[mild thunder]

iron maelstrom kinda cracked after it was buffed icl... at least while lvling

dont use that shit at max/high lvls

most barbs ik dont use an ult at all

[magic wing]

Low lvl barb feels like a bitch tho

[mild thunder]

im still sticking to rogue and barb for the season

both are just so fun

sorc is pretty cool too, thinking that's what i might do for a seasonal hardcore main

[urban skiff]

I just can't pick one for hardcore

I plan to die a lot

[mild thunder]

yea that's very fair

[urban skiff]

I'll probably pick a rotation and go by that order to keep from going stale

[mild thunder]

poison imbue rogue feels way too fun

esp with this crazy aspect

[urban skiff]

3 seconds is basically nothing right?

[mild thunder]

with rogue attack speed it's a LOT of twisting blades in 3 seconds

ntm that getting a proc increases your chance of getting more procs

[viscid bluff]

i've been leveling nefcromancer

bone spear is bonkers

[mild thunder]

pretty much all the classes are fun

the design is just really good across the board

until you play druid... i swear it's so fucking boring

[urban skiff]

How?

Landslide creeper is so good

[viscid bluff]

idk, never tried anything excelt landslide creeper one

[mild thunder]

idk it's just not enjoyable for me

[urban skiff]

i just got the leggo that doubles my landslides and I almost don't have to use a builder anymore, just spenders

wife clusters everything with corpse tendril thingy on necro and i petrify and wipe out with infinite resources

[viscid bluff]

what's the name of that movemenet spell?

[urban skiff]

trample?

[viscid bluff]

yes

[urban skiff]

i love trample, just smash the shit out of everything

[viscid bluff]

I play thi landslide trample

[urban skiff]

I think I'm going storm ww at the end

[viscid bluff]

storm?

[urban skiff]

idk the official name

[viscid bluff]

why ww

isn't that whirlwind

[urban skiff]

just know it's a mix of werewolf and storm skills

[viscid bluff]

ww means whirlwind

you mean werewolf tornado?

[urban skiff]

yea probably

[viscid bluff]

you need helm for that unfort

Unless u have it?

[urban skiff]

nah

Nothing right now matters, it's not season

I'm just enjoying the story and playing with the wife

[mild thunder]

stormwolf iirc

[urban skiff]

There are no leader boards to my knowledge, so whatever is fun to play is fun to play

[viscid bluff]

true

[mild thunder]

^

d4 pvp is literally shenanigans v shenanigans

hopefully they expand on it in a later season, but yea just make a build and farm people is the go for now

[urban skiff]

If I can't win all the times I can make sure my losses are fun

[teal hedge]

@urban skiff Ya boi hit a 70 kg benchpress

(155 pounds)

[magic wing]

Boomer dad

[faint pumice]

I’ve met a warrior today. He did like 8m damage against my 6. We were playing mirror. He was so good.

He was wearing 4 set and played this build https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/fury/DAPFVUUFEERURQpFRRBROVRVRUZEAVAoVBUBU

Is titanic rage good?

[mild thunder]

i am in your walls @steep inlet

[twilit ridge]

who is in alitas

[iron fractal]

What's the recommended 2 craft for fury? The mastery if you're over 90% health, the chance for extra damage on hit, damage if someone hits you?

[urban skiff]

huh?

[mild thunder]

[twilit ridge]

[mild thunder]

u dont know what i am doing for u babe

[steep inlet]

=)

[mild thunder]

when u gonna mery me

real man

[mild thunder]

one of the devs publicly recognised your site, right?

[twilit ridge]

dont touch her

or ur gonna have to face me

[mild thunder]

dont touch my canadian princess or i will kill u

she is a military girl

[steep inlet]

Holinka and the president

Mike Ybarra

[mild thunder]

hopefully they implement some stuff... the old world needs to be used for something, and that'd be a good start

[steep inlet]

Yup

[fallen solar]

Who would win. Fury or Enchantment?

[teal hedge]

Wait who

[mild thunder]

my kitten

[teal hedge]

Your kangaroo wife

[mild thunder]

okay no lie tho

steve irwins daughter

is a cutie

[teal hedge]

Bindi?

Fuuck man

I grew up with the crocodile hunter

[mild thunder]

she can hunt my crocodile anyday

😈

[teal hedge]

What's fucked up is that Steve died when I was 2, yet my dad still put on animal planet when I was a kid

Deadass what influenced me into picking science as my high-school course

[iron fractal]

Does everyone use the "If above 90% health you gain mastery"?

[teal hedge]

Nay

[iron fractal]

What other?

Shadowflame maybe?

[muted surge]

Im still not sure if shadowflame doesn’t cuck us

As you can reflect the dot, and I’m not sure if it consumes your sr or not

[iron fractal]

What other could I get? As fury.

[iron fractal]

Sparks in forbidden reach.. when pvp content turns to pve.

[slate root]

4 matches in a row of premade 2's that people have logged out at start of arena

[iron fractal]

10/15 in Arathi basin of the horde team are shamans and druids..

-One- melee in the entire horde team.

[wheat jay]

@mild thunder is survi stronk now?

Or is it me being good

[bright dirge]

Idk if u watched AWC but uh the only sv got cut through like wet paper

All surv does is good dmg

[wheat jay]

Nice

Imma go ahead and say im good survi then

[wheat jay]

If it was more durable itd be one of the best classes

Or if it could heal for more than 30% every 2min, affected by damp 😦

[bright dirge]

Yeah id say so, I'd take a damage loss just for a bit of survivability

[wheat jay]

Nahhhhh

Damage has to be there otherwise its dogshit t

But some healing would be amazing

Like mending bandage that doesnt break on any dot dmg

Or damage at all

[mild thunder]

Lmao what

No one tell him about sv utility

[bright dirge]

It's the same as every hunter spec + harpoon

Except even now u don't take steel trap randomly made it Dr with entrapment without adding it to the notes

[spice hornet]

I’m glad they made that change

It was actually broken af

[fallen solar]

Oh we in here talking about my main??

Survival is a great class when played right

Love it

[fresh plover]

my war is consistently doing bottom damage, despite his gear being pretty optimal
Anything sticking out here?

[mild thunder]

skill issue

how long of a game was this, and what were you versing?

[spice hornet]

Boomy/ele/spriest p much always out fam you unless game ends in first 30 seconds or somrthing

Survival too

[craggy igloo]

what build you playing? rend dam looks low

[fickle forge]

Average Artji beta moment

[wheat jay]

shut up

your beta moment was yesterday when you refused to play

me and healer online

you sitting on your ass

[fickle forge]

I call that an alpha move tbh

[wheat jay]

you didn't play games with homies

after agreeing to do it earlier

that's called betrayal

and you are a traitor

[green wyvern]

so when will they fix the ladder

only 100 characters above 2.4k

I guess they will inflate it by 300 points last 2 weeks of the season, like in s1

[fickle forge]

I set a time and date, ya'll just deadass dropped on me you were playing in 5

[wheat jay]

either way

we

play

maybe wednesday

cuz new content is out on wednesday

small chance i'll be doing megadungeon 😄

[elfin surge]

[wheat jay]

helo muddie

how's it going habibi?

when eu kfc again?

[elfin surge]

i quit warrior

[limber relic]

finally im not the only one sayiing this

[wheat jay]

You play rogue now?

Nice we play thug then

Like bicmex

And you'll be my rat

[elfin surge]

windwalker

i just rbg on warrior

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/punch-beating-chuck-norris-gif-19621610

@elfin surge irl

[hot solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-why-are-you-gay-pepe-julian-who-is-gay-you-are-gay-gif-15004128

[mild thunder]

you need to remake your ww as Mudnorris

[hot solstice]

Actually it’s funny to play ww with sound effects from jojo

https://tenor.com/view/star-platinum-gif-18007371

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/bruncket-gif-21790584

me on ww

[teal hedge]

I might actually make a monk

Is the xp buff still there?

[mild thunder]

ye

[mild thunder]

my ww is straightup named Jojo

[teal hedge]

How long will it remain?

[mild thunder]

til reset

level on US and i'll do it with you

[hot solstice]

Mine is Vandarkholme

Man of culture

[teal hedge]

Wait fuck

You serious?

I got like 3 days smh my head

But why play us

[mild thunder]

yea runs out soon

but leveling 1-70

is like

3-4 hours with buff

esp on ww, they level super quick

spam dungeons as tank, do the class quests, lvl super quick

[whole quartz]

patch day is tomorrow

[teal hedge]

What

How

It took me like 8 hours

On my priest

[mild thunder]

it's like 8 hours without buff

what're you doing broooo

[teal hedge]

Following halfdans guide

[mild thunder]

harldan

bro's europifying him

[teal hedge]

Yeah it's a norwegian name

But how the fuck do you hit 60 in like 3 hours

I spend more time than that just moving between quests

[mild thunder]

[teal hedge]

Send proof or you're doomed to live in Darwin

[mild thunder]

bro is not built for efficiency

just watch the harldan vods

of his runs

[teal hedge]

Big thing is me not affording mount-speed

[mild thunder]

bro what

[teal hedge]

I only do pvp, I am impoverished

[mild thunder]

dw it'll be free tomorrow

[teal hedge]

Yeah but the buff will be gone

[mild thunder]

nah

tomorrow night

you have 1 day with patch + buff overlap

[teal hedge]

This is all I have

But I think you're fucking with me

As Harldan managed to get his monk to 60 in 3 hours and 30 minutes

And he's very good at playing

[mild thunder]

yea and we have buff

[teal hedge]

With the buff

[mild thunder]

he did not take 3 hours 30 minutes with buff

you are straight capping

his world record is like 3 hours no buff

[teal hedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8wVeFN8XIw&ab_channel=Harldan

One thing is also me not having looms

Makes my strength drop off immensely whenever I go past like, level 30.

[mild thunder]

idk why it takes him so long

weird

but you can also cut it down with dungeons

[teal hedge]

Send proof

[mild thunder]

a lot of ppl spamming them rn and you can just roll brew

[teal hedge]

Again, without looms dungeons are dreadfull

[mild thunder]

oh youdont have looms

wild

skill isue

issue

idk

[viscid bluff]

why is pvp hard

lost all turns on a solo shuffle

literally couldn't do anything

does arms suck

anyone?

[muted surge]

Because you suck

[viscid bluff]

Yaeh I do suck

how do I get better

?

[teal hedge]

One big thing is managing your resources, especially in this meta

But arms is the better spec

(It's actually a little weaker, but the players are better people)

[bright dirge]

Play 2s

Not shuffle to learn

[viscid bluff]

No

I won't

[teal hedge]

SO REAL

[bright dirge]

Enjoy sucking

[teal hedge]

Stay on that shuffle grind, humble king

[viscid bluff]

Because I will not get into a 2s ever

simple

[teal hedge]

??? I learned through shuffle

Helps you be quick on your feet

[viscid bluff]

no one is going to invite a fucking retard like me

for 2s

[teal hedge]

You know your rotation?

[viscid bluff]

I'm stuck doing solo shuffle

[teal hedge]

Your burst windows?

You gotta work with me here lest you wish to stay mediocre

[bright dirge]

[viscid bluff]

I do know the rotation

[bright dirge]

It's likely you don't know your rotation or burst windows

[teal hedge]

Yeah

You also have to manage your charges well, make sure to not exhaust your cooldowns at the wrong moments

Do you switch between your stances? What about your defensives?

[bright dirge]

A LOT of mediocre/low rated players legit don't know how to effectively use their class functions

Trying to tell people even in hunter discord when they say they can't do dmg

[teal hedge]

I'm low rated, but I know da class

Just haven't the patience

[bright dirge]

They legit don't know their class lmao

[viscid bluff]

I do use my defensives when some big damage is coming

[teal hedge]

That's good, you running the pinned builds?

Skullsplitter or without?

[viscid bluff]

I'm using SKS

[teal hedge]

Ait, you know how to use it?

Best possible thing you could do is record a game and then send it in #810664169140518947 , it's how I improved.

[viscid bluff]

Well, I guess I use it after i have rend and DW on the target with warbreaker?

[teal hedge]

Yeah, also make sure to have recklessness up

Don't forget to pump some mortal strikes out as well, considering they add a DoT

[viscid bluff]

I don't think my problem is with my rotation, it's with my pvp gameplay

and i feel like i can't do anythign to people

[teal hedge]

I'd bet it has to do with resource management

And positioning

[viscid bluff]

i don't kno wabout that

my rage is pretty well off

all the time

[teal hedge]

No your CDs

Like, charge, heroic leap

Very important to conserve these

How's your gear, do you die?

[viscid bluff]

it's basically full honor gear/blood tokens gear

and yes I die a lot

pretty much every round i die first

[teal hedge]

I generally wouldn't run shuffles in these without experience

But still, it's doable

[viscid bluff]

what else am i gonna run tho

it's literally the only thing i can do

[teal hedge]

Glad gear

Farm conquest from dailies, as well as weekly quests

And get glad gear

Also, are you using the right gear? Haste, vers and mast?

[viscid bluff]

yeah that's about right

[teal hedge]

Well, best thing I can recommend is downloading OBS on steam or from their website, recording a game and then sending it in #810664169140518947

[viscid bluff]

everyone's gonna see me sucking

[teal hedge]

Hehe, you wanna see me sucking?

[viscid bluff]

lmao

is it gonna take a lot of ram

to record

[teal hedge]

Pinged you wit da vid

I mean, I don't think it's too RAM-heavy, I have 16 gigs and I did fine.

Otherwise, worst case scenario, you have a phone right?

[viscid bluff]

how do i reccord wow

[teal hedge]

You can use OBS

[viscid bluff]

ok got it

[teal hedge]

Good luck!

[viscid bluff]

ty

[teal hedge]

We are so back

Warrior is finally clicking again

[limber relic]

warr is so trash

[boreal veldt]

D:

[viscid bluff]

So I uploaded a video

[teal hedge]

I'll look at it whilst feasting

[viscid bluff]

I'm uploading another round currently

[graceful nacelle]

What is the diminishing returns for vers this expansion?

[bright dirge]

Anything past 30% or like 5200 vers

True Stat value I think is the addon that shows you secondary stats DRs

It's really good to know when you can choose either to keep stacking or swap to the next best stat

[graceful nacelle]

Thanks!

[whole tulip]

Do pally's just out dps warriors?

[teal hedge]

They have higher burst but I think warrior might have higher sustain?

[whole tulip]

Goccha

Like this pally did over a Mil more than me as arms

[teal hedge]

That's fine

[whole tulip]

I'm likst stuck 1900-2k Range and it feels like my damage compared to Surv hunter, Pally, as well as evoker just can't keep up

[teal hedge]

Warrior might also be tankier?

[whole tulip]

Like*

I'm 444ilvl IDk if that makes the difference

[teal hedge]

I'm somewhere around that as well, but the ilvl will make a difference

[whole tulip]

But Also I was told that I shouldn't be using fear to create pressue

pressure*

Its day 3 of playing my warrior and I hit 2k as fury but I feel like I need to swap all my gear for arms, as its all I'm running into at the current rating

Is there any classes you don't take warbanner against?

[wheat jay]

You can

[lyric violet]

got my fury and arms wars both into the 2000s last night

only a few lobbies away from that sweet enchant

inb4 warlock/boomkin/spriest the next 10 lobbies

[elfin surge]

yes

depends on the matchup but in general ret pally should out dps you

[whole tulip]

Thanks!

[gritty hazel]

Been a year or more since I did any real pvp, need some real help as I seem to be bad now hahah. Doing mostly fury solo shuffle. Seems like this build is decent?

[rotund trellis]

there are builds pinned if I remember correctly

I don't use improved intimidating unless really needed honestly

[wispy helm]

s

[teal hedge]

Fax, spit your shit indeed king

[gray umbra]

improved WW is bad. you need 2 pts in vicious contempt

i also prefer sidearm instead of the kick cd reduction. some would argue to abandon that node all togetehr and put the point in piercing howl/zerker shout

oh and you dont have frothing zerker which is pretty much required/baseline. get rid of improved intimatding its bad

[elfin valve]

If I’m playing ret/war 2s and the ret keeps being the go target and dying - is my damage maybe too low? Like I’m disarm, rally, vene, hammy, etc to try to relieve pressure but seems like he just goes pancake 🥞

[lean burrow]

do you cross cc?

does he press defensives on opponent's burst?

ret should be able to survive at least 3 goes by himself, with trinket blind, shield+wall, bubble

[scarlet flame]

just had a resto shaman who literally never used riptide once

[whole quartz]

based

[lean burrow]

riptide?

more like

ripdie

[scarlet flame]

his first global one round was spirit link on just me

i see a bunch of dudes geming mastery now, is it because of the setbonus or what

[last turret]

mages will be all over the solo shuffle now rip 😄

[river walrus]

But you'll see a lot if dks to shut then down now