Ideally split them "kinda"
#pvp
elfin surge
you use them together but dont macro them
the ideal burst rotation is prebuild rage for rampage, Reck - Rampage - Avatar - Rampage - Roar - Bloodbath - Rampage - Odyn - Rampage
muted surge
Perfect for a cast sequence macro
stark reef
I'm almost frustrated with how easy it is to clear content - did the Andariel fight the other day and LOVED the boss-model but the fight itself was extremely forgettable 
Really hope World Tier 3 and 4 and soon 5 will fix that. Campaign almost done so I can kick it up a notch
Bosses like that in WoW and I'd be glued to the seat
iron fractal
A hunter decided to burst a monk that used touch of karma on me.. then the healer wondered why I died so quickly without defensives during stunn.
tribal holly
stark reef
Which act was that
4?
tribal holly
I'm almost frustrated with how easy it is to clear content - did the Andariel fi...
Lilith fight was lit
Ah
I honestly dont remember it at all
I kinda just sent it and it died on my spear necro
stark reef
It's in the dessert, in a sandstorm
tribal holly
Ohh its that
stark reef
But yeah, loving the story - just the fights are disappointingly easy
tribal holly
Only ”hard” fight was lilith imo
Now i have pretty good gear so im just zooming through on t4
stark reef
Yeah, that's what i've heard - gear makes T4 a breeze rather quick
weak wedge
I got to level 30 something and stopped playing, waiting for first season to not get bored then 
stark reef
My only criticism so far is latency issues (100ping+) and the difficulty
Rest is awesome, specifically loving the combat design
tribal holly
I feel like the latency has so much variance
Once you get shitty server and start lagging if you leave game and go back in you get on fresh shard with 0 lag
worthy fern
@tribal holly I struggled only with capstone Elias
On rogue
Had to level a bit to get him down
tribal holly
Maybe t5 capstone will be harder
Still yet to do uber lilith tho
So got that to look forward to
patent flower
the ideal burst rotation is prebuild rage for rampage, Reck - Rampage - Avatar -...
Thank you 😄
teal hedge
50% xp buff has dropped!
fresh valve
PoE does a better job than diablo in terms of endgame boss variety
Kinda underwhelming grinding just to fight harder versions of 2 campaign bosses
mild thunder
My only criticism so far is latency issues (100ping+) and the difficulty
I had crazy fps and lag issues during the first week, but it’s pretty good now
mild thunder
PoE does a better job than diablo in terms of endgame boss variety
We haven’t really seen the real endgame of D4 yet
Season brings new dungeons, new bosses, higher difficulties etc
teal hedge
Is there any possibility to for me, EU scum, to play with people from oceania or the US?
mild thunder
Is there any possibility to for me, EU scum, to play with people from oceania or...
You have to make new characters with a separate subscription to a US-based account
teal hedge
DAMN
mild thunder
If you’re playing with oce it’ll be about 300
teal hedge
Yeah, seems about right
mild thunder
Dunno about Sweden-US
teal hedge
Southeast-asia is about 300 ping for me
Also, I thought the xp buff would launch the 19th
mild thunder
But yea otherwise I’d play on EU servers so @wheat jay could carry me to glad
teal hedge
Got my dates messed up fr
mild thunder
One day international ping will be negligent
teal hedge
Halo says I get 101 ms in east us
mild thunder
mild thunder
Yea unfortunately Au internet infrastructure is also hot garbage because of how nbn rollouts were handled politically
teal hedge
Parents have a 500/500 net
mild thunder
I have a steady 100/40, which is pretty good for my area
mild thunder
Doesn’t Norway have some of the highest standard internet speeds in the world?
mild thunder
If it weren’t for the unplayable high ms and shitty internet infrastructure, and the hot climate, Australia would be the best country on earth
And the spiders
And the homelessness
And the racism
teal hedge
Do not forget the lack of nearby countries to travel to, too
mild thunder
New Zealand
teal hedge
And?
teal hedge
Don't you have to take a flight for those?
mild thunder
Yep
teal hedge
I can just drive for two hours then I'm in Norway
mild thunder
If I ever become PM, I’ll build an underwater tunnel to New Zealand for “tourism”
And then invade those mofos 😈
teal hedge
3 hours to Oslo
mild thunder
They think they’re hot shit because of lord of the rings
That franchise has been carrying their mediocre country for too long
teal hedge
I seriously do not understand how you survive your summers
It's summer here now and it was 30 degrees today
teal hedge
Even with a fan on me the entire day I've just been dying
(Swedish houses are built in a way as to conserve heat, for our harsher winters)
mild thunder
It's summer here now and it was 30 degrees today
Bud, I went through the entire last summer working from home with no a/c in my carpeted apartment
40+ degree days
teal hedge
Jesus Christ
mild thunder
Shit was, quite literally, cooked
teal hedge
On the other hand, I can take walks in -17 no problems at all
mild thunder
On the other hand, I can take walks in -17 no problems at all
Coldest I’ve ever had around here was like -14 or something
teal hedge
Yeah, Australia is verty far down
iron fractal
Mastery and haste gem or Mastery and versatility gem?
mild thunder
Mastery and haste gem or Mastery and versatility gem?
Spec?
teal hedge
Yeah, that's the great part about cold
After a while you stop feeling the difference
I went out to get a pizza without gloves in -17c 😎
mild thunder
I was staying at a hotel at the time and the guy delivered our breakfast in short shorts
teal hedge
I have the potential to be EXTREMELY silly
mild thunder
Average Australian middle-aged man
teal hedge
It's half past midnight and I have the possibility to go to the gym and hit legs
mild thunder
Short shorts
Mullet
Blacked out sunglasses
VB
teal hedge
I can be extra unhinged
I can go to the gym in sandals
Hit a gruesome pb in leg press
I just fear devouring 50 grammes of protein after working out only to go to bed will have me DEAD
mild thunder
Australians don’t go the gym, we just wrestle dropbears and box kangaroos
Punch sharks
Kick crocodiles
mild thunder
I think it was like 2015 where some Aussie guy was bit in half by a great white and punched it on the nose to scare it off
teal hedge
Sounds about right
iron fractal
Got 21% haste atm so considering going for mastery/versatiltiy gems.
mild thunder
We have a lot of things in our waters
But the main thing people freak out about is the blue ringed octopus
teal hedge
They are so silly
Little guys that are poisonous enough to kill humans
Octopi are chill as all hell
teal hedge
I used to have a hawk spider
iron fractal
How can I be sure the public order will craft the best gem for me?
teal hedge
Sorry, no
iron fractal
It doesnt let you choose.
teal hedge
I had one of these
N oidea what it's called in english
But it's "bird spider" in swedish
teal hedge
How can I be sure the public order will craft the best gem for me?
Can't you filter for quality?=
mild thunder
But it's "bird spider" in swedish
Tarantula
iron fractal
Not if you put it up for public order.
mild thunder
How can I be sure the public order will craft the best gem for me?
You can’t
mild thunder
What are the big black things called then
Sus
iron fractal
So.. some fucker can make a low quality gem and I'll just have to keep making a new order.
mild thunder
So.. some fucker can make a low quality gem and I'll just have to keep making a ...
Go into TC and hit ‘em with the LF JC to make top quality etc
teal hedge
Big black spider with carapace in stead of fur
mild thunder
Big black spider with carapace in stead of fur
How big
teal hedge
sizeable
mild thunder
Tarantulas are the biggest
teal hedge
No wait I found them
mild thunder
Funnel webs get decent size
teal hedge
Brazillian black tarantula
But my dad used to have a "pet" tarantula
My favourite was my Schneider's skink
mild thunder
Pet snake > pet spider
teal hedge
I had a snake as well
mild thunder
Snakes are chill af
teal hedge
Called him Göran 😭
teal hedge
We also had several geckos and a crab
mild thunder
I had a pet axolotl as well
teal hedge
And some birds
mild thunder
Can’t remember the name
mild thunder
I think I’ve had a cat, a couple dogs, a snake, an axolotl, a few fish and then if you count farm animals a couple cows
And rabbits
mild thunder
Cats are unequivocally the best
teal hedge
different shrimps, as well as a halloween-crab
Parrots, we had doves at a certain point
We had tenrecs and hedgehogs as well
teal hedge
We had some different types of walking sticks (fear horror, nymphs)
mild thunder
What are the little monkeys called?
teal hedge
Poison dart frogs
mild thunder
Like the one from Indiana jones
teal hedge
Oh and tree frogs!
teal hedge
Like the one from Indiana jones
I will not fall for it
You almost had me, just barely
teal hedge
SUCK ON MACAQUE
mild thunder
😈
But yea they’d make the best pets, but it seems pretty cruel to keep them like that
mild thunder
Bro got baited by the wrong joke
mild thunder
My cats name was Max
teal hedge
Miss Salte big time, family took him to vet without me because they thought he wasn't seriously ill
Turns out he died on the spot
teal hedge
Shit sucks, don't really know what else to say
He's the reason I have a soft-spot for tuxedo-coloured animals
mild thunder
Raccoons are pretty fucking adorable too
teal hedge
Scrounging aggresive gremlins
mild thunder
They so furry
teal hedge
Despicable; horrid thing
mild thunder
Adorable thing
mild thunder
Pretty much any animal with less than 6 legs is cute tho fr
mild thunder
How long do you fellas think it will take for me to level now?
Shouldn’t take longer than 2 hours tbh
teal hedge
What how
mild thunder
Follow the Harldan guide
mild thunder
Skill issue frrr
mild thunder
Leveling solo is also Uber boring
spice hornet
A triumphant roar echoes from atop the Seat of the Aspects as Nasz'uro, the Unbound Legacy is formed.
teal hedge
What
mild thunder
Isn’t it a 50% rep buff as well?
teal hedge
Yes
mild thunder
Tempted to come back and mount farm from rep
mild thunder
I’ve got some legion and bfa mounts I need
teal hedge
Shouldn't I be able to dungeon-spam to 60 as a healer?
Should be equally as fast, right?
formal aspen
But not DF rep
Yes DF rep but not the 10.1 rep
solar wedge
Is it possible to view people's logs from PVP?
gray umbra
Yeah download the add on wow arena logs and also dl the client
solar wedge
So do ppl not run skullsplitter? I'm looking up talent builds from top arms warriors
dark meteor
xd
solar wedge
sooooo no?
mild thunder
Shouldn't I be able to dungeon-spam to 60 as a healer?
dungeons are less efficient because you run out of quests and groups are hit-or-miss
if you're group queueing, it can be good
but spamming tbc dungeons from like 10-20 is good
or queue while questing until you run out of tbc dungeon quests
and if you get durnholde, leave
waste of time
dreamy moat
also consider choosing cata to level in, makes the old world up to 60 and you can do bulk questing since most it is it fetch quests or kill this and that
very quick to do
it's funny leveling 51-60 in durotar
drowsy yarrow
is it worth stacking as much vers as possible as arms or is it better to stack haste once u hit a certain amount?
spice hornet
Do healers not get instant queues?
Depending on the rating queues aren’t instant for healers sometimes
Shits that dead
limber relic
Rip 😦 not top 10 anymore
Guys. I see way too many hard stacking vers. It cant be worth it right?
opal acorn
What site is this
limber relic
@opal acorn Wow homepage but on phone
lean burrow
did blizzard equalize rating now
limber relic
Pog 👏
teal hedge
Wasn't he a friend of Epstein?
mild thunder
they had some financial dealings, who cares
chomsky is one of the most influential linguists and political activists of the last hundred years
mild thunder
he is the chad of chads
teal hedge
One of my friends has trained a neco-arc ai and now he's making songs where the ai replaces the singer
Absolute monstrosities
undone pumice
mild thunder
a or b?
teal hedge
B
mild thunder
agreed
undone pumice
cursive pike
Is fury good
limber relic
Its boring af
mild thunder
#lfgisempty
lfg has been empty since mid-SL
d4 unironically having better pvp than wow rn
limber relic
lfg has been empty since mid-SL
Yeah..rip
elfin surge
real kraken
potentially dumb question. but is the boe pvp gear better than 438 pve gear?
next zodiac
Hey can anyone help choosing between nelf, human & gnome for pvp?
Is gnome only popular atm because of boomie popularity?
elfin surge
Hey can anyone help choosing between nelf, human & gnome for pvp?
gnome, but play what you like it really doesnt matter
teal hedge
Orc is horde though
whole chasm
and?
teal hedge
Alliance is simply better
whole chasm
slate root
Alliance is simply better
at running bots
whole chasm
if you do anything but normal bgs, faction does nothing but feed your own ego. if you go bgs, alliance got a reputation of curses
slate root
Horde has belf, enough reasoning to abandon it
female belf, enough reason to join it
whole chasm
Horde has belf, enough reasoning to abandon it
so does alliance technically
teal hedge
Yeah, but still
teal hedge
female belf, enough reason to join it
Why play female characters when you can play dress up with men
slate root
so does alliance technically
lolol that made me kek
whole chasm
belf from wish
slate root
Why play female characters when you can play dress up with men
I enjoy bud light while I pvp yes
whole chasm
kekw
whole chasm
well, i am nordic aswell, and i know about it
teal hedge
I mean, from what I've seen people are upset that a trans person was used in their marketing?
I don¨'t get the anger
whole chasm
yea thats it
teal hedge
People are arguing over pisswater
whole chasm
no no the whole thing is stupid
slate root
I mean, from what I've seen people are upset that a trans person was used in the...
Yeh, if you live in the south you hear it just about everyday
whole chasm
it’s a real life meme
teal hedge
You want a good beer you take corona and lime
whole chasm
^^^^^
teal hedge
Otherwise I prefer groggs
whole chasm
norrlands gull
teal hedge
Norrlands blask fr
whole chasm
this is why i play both factions
mild thunder
the cute little hop they do
teal hedge
My main is a male worgen
mild thunder
teal hedge
My alts is a male dranei and male gnome
mild thunder
My main is a male worgen
i was a fem orc... unironically the best/most aesthetic physique in the game
whole chasm
nelf hunter, flip while i disengage. simply bis
supple galleon
did blizzard equalize rating now <:keks:936231610850897992>
lmao nahhhh I'm just improving from playing more now lol my winrate is higher now than when I first started
whole chasm
My alts is a male dranei and male gnome
male draenei might be on shared top worst male chars with male nelf
mild thunder
male draenei might be on shared top worst male chars with male nelf
old male nelf >>>>> new male nelf
teal hedge
Male nelves are cool
supple galleon
when are we starting the gnome genocide movement
mild thunder
why do they fucking sway so much
supple galleon
we can make a sport out of punting them
whole chasm
male nelf got hips of a toddler
earnest thorn
Which embellishments are popular? Boots are obvious but after that, sporecloak?
whole chasm
nothing
supple galleon
I use the mastery one
earnest thorn
Well shit
next zodiac
And how is fury/arms in pvp atm? One of the best melees or not really?
And is it a good solo shuffle class?
visual river
Wow current solo queue rating system is fucked
60% win rate and 1200mmr climb
Was at least 1600 week1
visual river
Warr is always competitive it has never strayed below A tier**
visual river
I meant it has never really strayed below A. A+ as is A to S
limber relic
A tier is "normal"
river walrus
A tier is good
B tier would be normal
C would be shit and D complete garbage like dks
whole chasm
s tier are just broken
elfin surge
warrior is F tier guys lets be real
warm portal
Worse than dk its so bad 😭
teal hedge
Level 40 after 4,5 hours
I genuinely do not understand how you people level so quickly
next zodiac
Same, I follow questing addons quickly and it still takes ages
quaint ruin
So just back after not playing for 3 weeks. Is fury stil as viable or ?
warm portal
Diablo is a good way to kill time while you wait for patches
slate root
Current pvp is ass
whyz it bad?
earnest thorn
mmr is flatlined i think
the meta itself.. could be worse, though boomkin and demo are p gross
mild thunder
B tier would be normal
"normal" is whatever most specs are hovering at at a given point in time
there are seasons where everything but 1-2 specs is dogshit, so normal would be B-C tier, and there are seasons where everything is mostly balanced and normal is A/A+ (theoretically)
the 2nd one never actually happens
mild thunder
I genuinely do not understand how you people level so quickly
do you dawdle?
do you not have mounting leveled? wm on etc.
mild thunder
whyz it bad?
caster meta go brr... pretty much every DF pvp change so far has been either retarded or... nope, just retarded
mild thunder
how do you not have 4.5k gold to spare
frosty nexus
u can spend the princely sum of 17 euros and get 350k gold directly in your bags
mild thunder
it's like 1 dungeon
frosty nexus
how dontu have 4k
frosty nexus
u literally get 500g just from doing a dragon racing world quest which takes 60 seconds
mild thunder
4500/50 = 90
🤓
teal hedge
I don't 💔
mild thunder
L
undone pumice
gobby gliders my beloved
or just carry mats for the pandaria tinker on cloak
but thatd be way more expensive tbh
gray umbra
Is gnome only popular atm because of boomie popularity?
No. Escape artist is valuable AF. Gnome fury wars are literally unkiteable
magic wing
But also gnomes
limber relic
3v3 turbo cleave rn https://www.twitch.tv/seifcham/
muted surge
teal hedge
WOOOOO
muted surge
should have concentrated on the game and not linking your stream
teal hedge
Hit 220kg 10 times on da leg press
muted surge
220? tf
teal hedge
Is it low?
muted surge
?
teal hedge
Is 220 kg low?
muted surge
the leg press in my gym doesnt even go that high
teal hedge
My gym does
muted surge
so no, it isnt "low"
muted surge
im at 90 or so kek
teal hedge
Leg press is nice, relieves a lot of pressure on the core
Gives legs more of a chance to shine
But I'm a big guy from a big family, so I gotta get stronger
muted surge
wait you are like 180 kg right ?
teal hedge
160 kg
muted surge
so 60 over body weight, tahts good
teal hedge
Yep
Did 60 on front squats as well
But I've noticed my back is weak compared to my legs, so I take it easy with squats and deadlifts to let my back catch up
undone pumice
yall dont have plate loaded leg presses?
muted surge
nah, only got one with the rope
woeful solstice
undone pumice
nah, only got one with the rope
sad existence
unique fox
AWC meta looks atrocious lol, moonkins and demos every time i look
near brook
Just went 0-6 in a prot pally lobby. Tilting off the face of the earth rn
runic wharf
ME MMR SMOrc ME NO INCREASE SMOrc YOUR MOUNTS AND TITLES SMOrc CAN REST IN PEACE SMOrc
teal hedge
Never really thought about it, but my stepdad casually just said that he felt my dad, despite his physical ailments, was strong
teal hedge
That's the plan
Lift heavy things three days a week
Been restricting sweets to only fridays and saturdays as well
In order to decrease my calorie-intake
next zodiac
Just about to ding 70 on my first ever warr
Should I learn arms or fury?
Is fury still better atm?
river walrus
i love when i get a cheese one shot with spell reflection pvp talent
next zodiac
Also who are the best warr streamers to watch?
earnest thorn
Larosw, magnusz, mudcx are all good for it
next zodiac
Ty
And do you have an opinion on whether I should invest my time learning fury or arms rn? @earnest thorn
earnest thorn
Oh and joefernandes the homey ofc
They’re both working sir play whichever you prefer
next zodiac
Thanks
I was under the impression that fury was better atm but all 3 of those streamers seem to be playing arms
teal hedge
Arms is more fun imo
formal aspen
best way to improve? i assume just keep spamming solo shuffle and learning....I just get dumpstered by mages
teal hedge
Make sure not to exhaust your movement capabilities and to maintain hamstring
Should help a little against mages
teal hedge
Yeah, I bruteforced dat shit
formal aspen
very new to warr in itself. guess i just need to keep grinding
teal hedge
You rollin wit fury or arms?
formal aspen
arms atm
teal hedge
So good
I play only arms
Work on your uptime and pressure
Was my main weakness
Also, make your rotation muscle memory
formal aspen
yeah that will take some time. being a bear/bdk mythic raid tank for years and coming over to dps and pvp is so different. very refreshing though
teal hedge
Also make sure you're using a proper build
Skullsplitter can take a little getting used to, but when used properly it can stand as a nice burst
sharp meteor
With next week’s reset, the inflation rate will be substantially increased for next week
This increase will be gradual throughout the course of the week
The steadier inflation rate will continue for the remainder of the season
earnest thorn
How bout dat
teal hedge
How bout what
earnest thorn
i watch him for the rage
He’s great lol
shell river
He’s great lol
great player, funny when he tilts tho
teal hedge
I don't like watching streamers, but sometimes I just watch the miestro for a bit
What a menace
earnest thorn
How bout what
Blizzard just posted about fixing up the mmr complaints
teal hedge
I think I asked him for a healer tip and then he misspronounced the word "Gentle" as "J-e-n-teel"
shell river
I don't like watching streamers, but sometimes I just watch the miestro for a bi...
i only watch pika cuz entertaining
teal hedge
Then he called me a rat, I think
teal hedge
Blizzard just posted about fixing up the mmr complaints
Oh sweet
Been trying to get some alts up to 60 with this xp buff, but I'm so slow
My guy is level 55 and I have 6,5 hours played
earnest thorn
That sounds pretty decent
teal hedge
That's the thing
There is a 50% buff around
And the guy I'm trying to copy managed it in 3 hours
desert light
hello everyone, i've got 3 sparks, any tips on what to craft?
desert light
i'm playing fury atm
teal hedge
Then I am not a reliable source
elfin surge
hello everyone, i've got 3 sparks, any tips on what to craft?
Boots - Helm - Ring
urban skiff
looks like we're getting rating inflation "fixed"
How do we best capitalize on this? Is it best to play immediately after reset or do we wait for people to settle into higher ratings and then farm our ratings from people who were lower rated than us before?
urban skiff
rate my stats
compact token
best warrior spec if you have dandruff?
urban skiff
fury
mild thunder
barbarian spec when
sage raptor
sage raptor
Comp Stomp does things to people
mild thunder
Bro who complains in comp stomp
twilit ridge
Bro who complains in comp stomp
Paladin moment
mild thunder
Paladin moment
twilit ridge
<:warriorbrain:1083190485637660734>
most sane Paladin
muted surge
How do we best capitalize on this? Is it best to play immediately after reset or...
Doesn’t matter, you gotta play anyway to improve
mild thunder
Doesn’t matter, you gotta play anyway to improve
why improve when you can rmt
muted surge
As you mention rmt
Apparently a liposuction costs 4-6k 
I thought I could rmt myself out of my love handles
green wyvern
How do we best capitalize on this? Is it best to play immediately after reset or...
I dont think much will change
the best approach still is to only play the last few weeks of the season
muted surge
6k is life changing money for me
Yeah, I hoped it’s like 1k or so and not 6k for 12 months of bruises and 1 month of no sport 🫣
mild thunder
6k is life changing money for me
real
mild thunder
Yeah, I hoped it’s like 1k or so and not 6k for 12 months of bruises and 1 month...
i knew a girl that got lipo and she said it made her feel sick and weak as fuck
so probably better to avoid it anyway
urban skiff
Doesn’t matter, you gotta play anyway to improve
I'm not looking for improvement, i'm looking to go from 1796 to 1800 and then boxing up my warrior and focusing on alts the rest of the season
urban skiff
Pretty sure I'll be too rusty to play at 1200 then
urban skiff
i'll settle for 4 rating
drowsy atlas
What do you guys think is the superior Spec rn for 2v2?
teal hedge
Pretty sure fury just barely wins at that
dreamy moat
this blood dk in a battleground is doing 70m healing
excuse me
yeah not sure what to say about that one, chief
if vampiric blood has something to reduce its cd it makes sense
but VB is a 2min cd lol
undone pumice
normal occurence
dreamy moat
yeah like I get it's a blood dk and they do ridiculous self healing
but this guy's cooldowns were weird
urban skiff
What do you guys think is the superior Spec rn for 2v2?
They're so close whichever you're better at is the one that's best
teal hedge
Hit level 60 after 7 hours and 13 minutes!
violet fossil
yeah not sure what to say about that one, chief
if vampiric blood has something ...
there’s a talent that reduces vampiric blood
is up quite often
dreamy moat
yeah had a look, every 10 runic power takes off a second or something
it felt up more often even knowing that, but idk
muted surge
the pvp craft item, first one is free and the second one costs conq right ?
fossil mortar
Let us hope it will equal a gradual increase of players participating
fossil mortar
Soloque still going to be 40min ques tho, so ya lads make some noise when that is "fixed"
wheat jay
Casual shuffle
wheat jay
Played 0 arena for like 2 weeks or so
Did some 2s and some 3s
Before
And i did lots of pve
Sunday I might kill mythic rashok
wheat jay
Guild was like "yo we're out of one person, can you come?"
And then went to "yo you're in main squad again since you're on 2 weeks break from work"
Sooooo ye
Ah there's new raid in lost ark too
Which is quite fun
Ans you?
Anything fun going on?
wheat jay
That's good for you, isn't it?
Higher group mmr
Means you get more for wins
And lose less for losses
fossil mortar
royal grail
hey guys, i've just picked up the fury mantle after nearly 2 years of not playing it, am i okay to pose what talents and if anybody sees anything weird letting me know? i probably have some more questions aswell (stole talents from murlok)
limber relic
Higher group mmr
Yeah kinda. But not fun playing against r1s
sharp meteor
yeah not sure what to say about that one, chief
if vampiric blood has something ...
Tier gives vamp blood procs.
Although blood sitting in the middle of a team and living forever is just them not being cc'd/bursted/disarmed at all.
I think kI had like 200m healing in an Ashran just kind of sitting there drain tanking 20 people
wheat jay
Yeah kinda. But not fun playing against r1s
Satisfying to win
spice hornet
Soloque still going to be 40min ques tho, so ya lads make some noise when that i...
lets be real solo shuffle was only popular because 2400 in shuffle was about 1500 in regular 3s
raven hound
When was the last time we had a season that wasn’t deflated or inflated
It’s been 84 years…
I’m all for going back to a %-based rating system just because it would require less oversight from Blizzard’s part, but that had its own issues that Blizzard would have to iron out
I just want to play PvP but it doesn’t feel worth it
fossil mortar
lets be real solo shuffle was only popular because 2400 in shuffle was about 150...
dont care, I just dont want to wait 40min between games
teal hedge
Oh my god I feel like such a bully in battlegrounds as a discp irest
spice hornet
Damn god forbid you gotta use the group making tool in an MMO
river walrus
Guys, is the MMR buff next week only for 3x3 or all brackets?
teal hedge
What
Came second in healing, other healer on my team had 100k more
But I had 477k more damage
spice hornet
yall always cryin inflation be too high
people want inflation, people don't want 3700 rated seasons that last like 10 months. especially as this game participation is down bad, r1 cutoff being below gladiator is just comedy.
wheat jay
When was the last time we had a season that wasn’t deflated or inflated
If we get PERFECT balance between inflation and deflation people will still complain about something
Its subjective to some degrer
Degree
Only when its extreme it becomes objective
raven hound
That’s true
wheat jay
Still, its better for participation when its inflated
More people play because rewards are easier to get
2100 being top 100 won't convince people to play, but if its top 3000 then everyone is going to play to get
swift folio
can honor gear be catalysed ?
muted surge
why would you lol
swift folio
i only do pvp for transmog 1800 and never touch it again
muted surge
but transmog ends at 2.4
swift folio
as long as there is no asskandi pvp version i dont care
muted surge
Dps diff
violet fossil
yeah had a look, every 10 runic power takes off a second or something
I didn’t know this but 4p for blood also lowers vampiric blood
sage raptor
More at 11
sharp meteor
Rdruid btw
Crafted gear and its consquences. Mastery specs kind of cracked.
elfin surge
Crafted gear and its consquences. <:keks:936231610850897992> Mastery specs kind ...
we lost this game
WE died to damage, no cc
KEKW
sharp meteor
WE died to damage, no cc
Maybe Rdruid tsg will be a cozy time when Unholy is doing galaxy dam all game.
elfin surge
gut rdruid
wanton siren
I have a feeling priest cant heal longer than 2 minutes
teal hedge
Been playing some priest, disc can struggle a bit when keeping up single target heals
Most of their kit revolves around getting to breathe between globals, allowing you to cast different damaging spells
But yeah, disc doesn't heal that much
mild thunder
Maybe Rdruid tsg will be a cozy time when Unholy is doing galaxy dam all game. <...
Those unholy changes are gonna be wildd
Kinda nice that they’re buffing the disease dmg tho, would be nice if there were one less pet spec in PvP
obsidian loom
Lol just saw the blue post about mmr
What a condescending response
Also there's no shot inflation was in the game since week 1 lmao
sharp meteor
Also there's no shot inflation was in the game since week 1 lmao
So you didn't read it
obsidian loom
Misread I guess, I thought earlier in the season implied week 1
shell river
can honor gear be catalysed ?
idk man...give it a try
sharp meteor
idk man...give it a try
No, but trophy gear can.
It'll just...be 447 instead of 450.
sharp meteor
I'd recommend against using your weekly charge on a 437 piece. Not that you can. 
shell river
I'd recommend against using your weekly charge on a 437 piece. Not that you can....
I meant, it would have been memes for someone else to do it
wide bay
if I have 4p, should I replace any of the items with conquest or honor gear, or not?
proud root
What is considered decent rio for 22s?
muted surge
3k
mint pulsar
fury returner here, we running 4 set?
if so, what pieces?
surely we skip out on head yeah?
vapid tartan
Yes
dark topaz
so i'm sure it's been asked but what do we craft for arms? i've seen everyone run boots & either figurine of gathering on either helm/ring
vapid tartan
not really armor patch seems to be more popular
dark topaz
so we get that as 2nd?
dark topaz
i see
vapid tartan
Crafting a helm then going ring is nice
muted surge
patch is like 2% dmg for me
but its pad dmg and im still not sure if it fucks SR or not
bcs my WA tells me i sr the shadowflame
muted surge
i dont hear any sounds
but the wa only shows the shadowfdlame in the combat log
and no other spell
dark topaz
think imma just craft it on helm and forget about it
mint pulsar
Crafting a helm then going ring is nice
ring with haste/master or master/vers?
versd already at 35%+ so maybe not worth it more?
visual river
Man definitely need that rating inflation, I am gaining 8 and losing 16 rating at 1700rbgs wtf . 1 step forward 2 steps back
Armor patch is just pad damage, running mastery at 90%+ hp at least gives 3% increased enrage damage with decent uptime
iron fractal
165 k chaos bolt ❤️ Lets give warlocks some more buffs, not enough casters.
vapid tartan
ring with haste/master or master/vers?
Depends on spec
how come so many arms are takin eb in rbg? Also lots takin soa over imp ss, wpuld think ss is better to cleave longer no?
vapid tartan
versd already at 35%+ so maybe not worth it more?
You’d prolly want to keep vers/haste on arms and vers/mast for fury, crafted ring has less vers so it’s fine
limber relic
versd already at 35%+ so maybe not worth it more?
Craft ring/helm/neck with mastery+haste
Not worth it stacking more vers above 30%
urban skiff
versd already at 35%+ so maybe not worth it more?
It's impossible to have that high vers once you reach 4set
limber relic
Its not
Ive got 35% and im missing 2 tier pieces but have already taken off some vers
urban skiff
Yes? Set doesn't have vers so you'll be taking off more vers.
with 4set you'll be at 33.5% or something
urban skiff
200 vers is 1% so..?
limber relic
And like i said ive already taken off some vers
urban skiff
I'm decked in BiS fury gear with 4set and optimal crafts and my vers is 33.5%
limber relic
Fair enough
limber relic
Yeah ive done that
urban skiff
maybe you're looking at your stats with 2pc scalewarden
urban skiff
On the upside I'm at 50% mastery
urban skiff
I don't think mastery has DR
limber relic
All stats do
Thats why i wna remove some vers
And i stopped stacking haste after 30%
Now im trying to get more mastery
urban skiff
DR for stats just means it takes more stats to gain 1%
1% mastery is just raw 1% more damage done
limber relic
Yeah well
30-39 is 10% penalty
40-49 20%
Ectect
Ah i mean 39-47* 20%
47-54 30%
urban skiff
so that means i'm paying a 3% mastery tax, which is around 375 rating
teal hedge
Oh my god the frustration healer players have is vali
limber relic
Yeah icbf math rn 😂 but stil dr
urban skiff
actually way less, because 50% mastery is like 35% from gear
get 14% baseline mastery via talents
urban skiff
Trial and error breeds innovation
limber relic
It seems like fury warrs are just stacking mastery
And going 30% vers
And looks like the arms are thinking like iam and going 30% vers and haste and rest mastery
vapid tartan
P sure if you go one crafted without vers you go 29%? At 33-35 with it
limber relic
Idk rn
Cant really check since i dont have all gear yet
But mby helm then?
Since helm is like 400 haste/vers
Ring/neck has 750
Or if u swap 1 pvp ring for crafted it goes from 1k vers to 750
urban skiff
Crafted ring has another advantage: born with sockets
urban skiff
My long term plan is to craft 2nd ring + neck
it takes around 200 vers to raise damage by 1%
and 125 mastery to do the same for fury
207 or 208 or something to be closer
limber relic
Idk how its calculated but i equipöed a 260 vers piece
Got 2.2%
Ah nvm
Got 1%base vers
urban skiff
unequipped a 1k ring and lost 4.5%, most of my vers was in the first DR zone.
limber relic
Yeah almost 200=1%
urban skiff
Wowpedia says 205 rating for 1%
limber relic
170 haste = 1%
limber relic
70 Mastery 33 haste
vapid tartan
Yeah, I’m sittin at 33ish on fury, on rings we drop 300 vers from conq to crafted
limber relic
Just remember you'll also be taking 2% percentpoint more damage
Yeah. Probably but imo its just stats gone that could be used somewhere else
Idk.
limber relic
Fury it seems like everyone going 30% vers rest mastery
vapid tartan
Yeah
urban skiff
our baseline haste is so high and crit is so nerfed it doesn't make sense to put points anywhere but mastery
vapid tartan
Yeah, not sure if it’s worth pushing past 30% haste is worth on arms
limber relic
Yeah i doubt it
urban skiff
It's worth pointing out that no matter how nerfed crit is, raising it from 5% to 10% is doubling your chance to instantly slap someone into oblivion
vapid tartan
I’m interested to see if crit becomes useful with 4p
limber relic
I mean we get crit from tier anyways
urban skiff
you mean in arms or fury?
earnest thorn
i think mastery is good on arms too
vapid tartan
Since we are already gonna be like 40+ haste with frenzy
urban skiff
you already guarantee crit with 4set
earnest thorn
like haste is a bit over value
limber relic
like haste is a bit over value
Haste is stil king for arms
undone pumice
more haste = more gcds = more dmg
limber relic
But beyond 30 its meh
earnest thorn
that really depends on uptime
vapid tartan
I mean it’s what a 5% increase per stack?
earnest thorn
but theyre both good stat
urban skiff
but if you're playing annie bt then crit is probably worth less with 4set because you'll be increasing from 10% base crit chance instead of a base 5%
vapid tartan
Oh yeah, we can’t double dip br spam talents yeah
urban skiff
with 4set my crit is 8% baseline, +5% per stack.
earnest thorn
But beyond 30 its meh
curious whats your stat breakdown look like? with pvp gear scaled up i mean
urban skiff
increasing my crit 1 percentpoint is going to increase my chance to crit by 8+5+1% -> 7% higher chance to crit.
Increasing crit by 1 percentpoint without set bonus is going to increase crit chance by 8+1% -> 12.% higher chance to crit
limber relic
@earnest thorn Rn 30% haste 35% vers 18% mastery
But
Im trying to remove some vers rn
urban skiff
It's worth noting that going from 34% vers to 30% vers means you take 6% more damage.
That's giving up half a d-stance permanently on
limber relic
So its 2.5% dmg reduction and 5% less dmg done
But
Then 10% vers dr
Mastery is 1% = 1% increased dmg on targets with deep wounf
Looks like deep wound dmg is not affected by mastery
Its just the dmg incread on targets with deepwound
Now im at 33% vers, 30% haste, 20% mastery
urban skiff
How much % mastery are you getting for 3% vers?
limber relic
Hm hard to tell 100% since i just recrafted my helm
But its like 400 vers > 400 master
Plus 10%
limber relic
"After 30 increasing ur haste to 310 only gives u 30.9%"
Now idk how they calc 310 to be 1% but
Ah wait
Lets assume 10 haste = 1%
300=30%
urban skiff
If you need 205 rating to increase vers 1% then above 30% you need 205 * 1.1 rating to get 1%
urban skiff
so dropping from 34% vers to 30% vers you free up 4* 20.5 rating that is lost to DR
limber relic
Yeah
urban skiff
82 rating, or almost a socket
limber relic
Yeah
urban skiff
I'll take the extra damage reduction, it makes my stamina worth more
and my self healing
limber relic
I mean
muted surge
So you use the stamina sockets instead of vers?
limber relic
Its less dmg reduction sure but
Its stats thrown in the bin
Thats my point
An extra socket is an extra socket
And extra stats
Ill take it
urban skiff
So you use the stamina sockets instead of vers?
No, but everything has stamina
Put it another way: Someone tell me I can choose to take 2.6% more damage and I'll get a socket, I'd laugh
bad trade in my opinion
limber relic
Its 1% more dmg for 2.6% dmg reduction.
And im not sure im calculating it right tho but idk
urban skiff
80 rating isn't 1% more damage
limber relic
.8
urban skiff
it's 163 mastery rating to gain 1% mastery for arms
So almost flat 0.5% extra damage for 2.6% damage taken
but I'm not here to convince anybody, I'm just sharing my opinion on the value
urban skiff
Yea
so the trade is:
135 -> 130 damage = 3.7% less damage done
17.5% -> 15% mitigation = 3.0% more damage taken
Mastery gain -> 1025 + 102.5 rating = 6.9% mastery
assuming 1% mastery = 1% damage then it's 2.9% damage gain for 3.0% extra damage taken
Literally a throttle on the fight
limber relic
I take the more dmg
Dont need the dmg reduct
Im rarely the killtarget
Like the diffrence is almost nonexistant but
For me its all about the stats lost
limber relic
Eh
dry bane
Guys
how strong ıs Sıdearms
for pvp 3is
3s
how can I both have sıdearms and shockwave
or ıs sıdearms overrated went onto an AWC players strean
he had ıt
muted surge
why are your i´s so scuffed
muted surge
your fault for playing hunter
spice hornet
warrior shuff just gets boring and all 3s partners aren't qing until mmr changes are in
teal hedge
why are your i´s so scuffed
turkish?
muted surge
It is indeed from the turkish language , good to know
near delta
Blizo zugging in the AWC!