Taking a fucking beating at 1550 right now.
#pvp
stark reef
wary heart
doomer you should queue up and see whats up rn
stark reef
Yeah, game is great
wary heart
report back after 100 games
stark reef
Play some war
hot solstice
they made 2400 cr pointless with how pathetic transmog looks
its either u play for 2100 and stop
or go for gladiator title
I have 2100
stark reef
I have 1600
hot solstice
HAve desire for that mount but clearly I am not able to compete with r1
stark reef
wary heart
roxi how many games you in so far on warr this season
wary heart
bro...
stark reef
Hear me out...
wary heart
k, let'em cook
wary heart
1k rounds
stark reef
k, let'em cook
wheat jay
Did you spend more time in arena or in queue?
stark reef
Did you spend more time in arena or in queue?
I use remote desktop all day whilst doing other stuff
Have it on full blast, when queue pops it's time to play some wow
stark reef
Listen, I don't have any alts, I don't do anything else in the game, I don't play any other games and I don't leave the house
teal hedge
You should play disco elysium
stark reef
My job is to be available at the phone/PC around the clock 7 days a week
So we do some shuffling on the side
wheat jay
Do you train?
stark reef
Yes, 5 days a week
stark reef
10hrs work w/ shuffle, gym, then just shuffle (this is the part where I lose 200 rating)
undone pumice
I used to go 6 days a week but now im to 3 days a week
stark reef
I do legs, upper body, rest, repepat
undone pumice
Why cant i just train everyday without stretching eating right or sleeping anymore man
wheat jay
Meanwhile im too autistic to go gym so i train at home
Sometimes i go to swimming pools
stark reef
I wish - one day
A nice home-gym, big glass windows, maybe some outdoor parts to it with a sandbag, no neighbors
teal hedge
But yeah, I passed physics and now I'm done with everything
undone pumice
I usee to get mega overstimulated at the gym until i got noise cancelling headphones
teal hedge
Finished school, grades took a big hit, but I'm doing ok
undone pumice
Meanwhile im too autistic to go gym so i train at home
Can def recommend noise cancelling headphones for that tism
wheat jay
I usee to get mega overstimulated at the gym until i got noise cancelling headph...
Inb4 you listen to anime openings
wheat jay
Can def recommend noise cancelling headphones for that tism
I hate noise cancelling xD
wheat jay
Even for pc
undone pumice
Curry flavored white noise
wheat jay
I need open back headphones
undone pumice
Ye but if ur tism is holding u back from gym i imagine its cuz of overstimulation from noise or stuff?
wheat jay
No
undone pumice
Unless u meant it as a meme
wheat jay
I just dislike people
stark reef
I just dislike people
teal hedge
Yeah, I also rock noise-cancelling in the gym
undone pumice
Simply go at 3 am
wheat jay
Which is ironic cuz i work at store and 90% of my job is talking to people to scam them into buying warranties
undone pumice
Which is ironic cuz i work at store and 90% of my job is talking to people to sc...
Social battery drained at the end of the day i guess
Relatable
wheat jay
Start of the day*
teal hedge
Hitting biceps I usually just go for Revolutionairy Etude - Chopin
stark reef
Yeah, I am in perma-drainage of that battery. Hence me flaming Galachad whenever I get the chance
teal hedge
People that have social batteries are not real
wheat jay
Morning be like "fuck me i gotta talk to retards again ughhhh"
elfin surge
wheat jay
Biceps needs some metal
elfin surge
yess
undone pumice
Shut the FUCK up
teal hedge
Metal is corny af
wheat jay
Fuck you
undone pumice
Go away mud
teal hedge
I like death grips
undone pumice
This is real gamer time
elfin surge
wheat jay
How the fuck you lifting to big bass
undone pumice
Vibrate skull = +25 strength
woeful solstice
how the fuck
are you gonna call metal corny
then immediately say you like death grips
undone pumice
wheat jay
Nice lyrics for when you want to lift heavy
woeful solstice
undone pumice
Bruh
teal hedge
Bubbles buried in this jungle my beloved
teal hedge
https://youtu.be/EuUYM-E5-1U
Swedish band spotted
woeful solstice
teal hedge
Though one thing I do not accept is people listening to phonk
wheat jay
I dont need super strong music, i need good lyrics for it
wheat jay
Though one thing I do not accept is people listening to phonk
PHONK
undone pumice
Wdym
teal hedge
Worse than hyperpop
woeful solstice
yeah phonk is pretty trash ngl
teal hedge
I'd rather hit da gecs than listen to phonk
wheat jay
10% is pure gold
undone pumice
Npc music for low brain activity stuff is goated
stark reef
https://youtu.be/mQF_qB0eADg
elfin surge
o man
teal hedge
Oh that and I listen to mexican ballads sometimes
woeful solstice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F-iaPOaLvA&ab_channel=Pint
hahahahaha
teal hedge
Goes really hard
woeful solstice
i remember that whitemane vid
teal hedge
Swans goes crazy as well
wheat jay
I also remember some whitemane vida
teal hedge
Love Swans
wheat jay
Vids
wheat jay
Cant post them here tho sadly
undone pumice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F-iaPOaLvA&ab_channel=Pint
Bitch better stay behind that fence
stark reef
wheat jay
Roxi is mexican?
undone pumice
Get away from me and my virginity
undone pumice
No
teal hedge
Michael Gira ❤️
The stamina of these guys is insane
Keeping that riff up for 8 straight minutes
woeful solstice
yea they put on a killer show
teal hedge
Filth has some bangers
elfin surge
teal hedge
Stay here and Big strong boss are my favourites from that album
elfin surge
https://youtu.be/DcxGNvQQubY
gets really good around the 8 hour part
woeful solstice
https://youtu.be/DcxGNvQQubY
bro u ok?
elfin surge
teal hedge
https://youtu.be/DcxGNvQQubY
wheat jay
https://youtu.be/DcxGNvQQubY
Reminds me of that time I listened to sexy sax guy for 8h straight
teal hedge
I actually just barely missed Swans visiting a neighbouring city
Found out about them being here after it was over.
scarlet barn
Reminds me of that time I listened to sexy sax guy for 8h straight
mah man
wary heart
last 24 hours
only 12 of the top 50 people playing are melee
in the upper brackets
76% are casters
wary heart
funny that since 3s participation is lower than SL S4 right now
merry pelican
Hey guys, If one would like to start RBGs but not with random grps. Where would one go to search for grps?
wary heart
last 24 hours...
3v3 NA
620 matches with warriors
solo NA
18.8k matches with warriors
total matches last 24 hours NA: 3s had 16k matches & solo had 212.4k
stark reef
Can hunter turtle in stun?
urban skiff
no (75% certain at least)
but i suspect many run a trinket -> turtle macro to go as low as possible and still be safe
turtle also doens't block bleeds so i keep landing kills through turtle
wary heart
does sks go through turtle if you cast it while they're domed?
urban skiff
Does sks expire bleeds if it misses?
wary heart
i guess that's what im asking
urban skiff
i just love eating warcocks
river trench
is the annihilator build that much stronger then the onslaught build for fury?
river trench
is the anni build literally just spamming bloodthirst or am i missing something?
wary heart
ramp bt bt ramp bt bt
river trench
ah. think id take the dps knock to avoid the 2 button rotation lol
brazen flax
But with 4p that doesn’t work right? Cause you’re just eating your bonus b4 it can marinate
wary heart
no idea, i dont have 4p yet
not many do
works for now
even with onslaught you're going to want to hit bt without 10 stacks
unless you take RB
urban skiff
But with 4p that doesn’t work right? Cause you’re just eating your bonus b4 it c...
doesn't matter if you increase one bt by 5% 10 times or increase 10 bts by 5% 1 times
except for rare low-hp burst
but fury don't win on burst, it wins on being oppressive as fuck and slaughterhouse unhealable
whichever spec pumps out more rampages will benefit more from set
wary heart
you can maybe theorycraft a non-annihilator build and run improved RB and bank fat bts but i havent thought too deeply on it
its probably best to bt on cd since every spec now hows a rot afk dps ability
brazen flax
Ahh ok I had no idea! Been using Odins + raging blow with some level of success but then again being successful as a low tier scrub is equivalent to a skinny guy with abs….
river trench
just gotta remind myself burst isnt their bread and butter, which is what i have been use to with the classes ive been playing
wary heart
if youre seriously pvp'ing rn you're out of your mind like @stark reef
elfin surge
brazen flax
I’ve been dealing with something a little diff… been juggling evoker, survival and enh 😥
wary heart
river trench
Enhance seems like a lot of fun, i just need to get use to the different utility and stuff.
brazen flax
You’re mashing the keyboard with no more keys or less frequent than fury tbh (at least thorims build)
river trench
think for me its the survivability part im struggling with enhance
brazen flax
Just have a couple more of those I win buttons tuckered away behind and up
urban skiff
if youre seriously pvp'ing rn you're out of your mind like <@267069849723863041>
MUCH LIKE 1800, I DON'T GET IT
urban skiff
I’ve been dealing with something a little diff… been juggling evoker, survival a...
evokker is just so much fun
wary heart
MUCH LIKE 1800, I DON'T GET IT
oof
teal hedge
<@215095056112025601> explain yourself
Type hard
urban skiff
mmr is dumb
just give us cookies instead
if i win i take 10 of their cookies. If they win they take 10 of mine
inner elbow
stark reef
Can't do shit in stun
I see, yeah, hunter died in Kidney with turtle up so wasn’t sure
Gotta suck playing hunter into sub rogue
wheat jay
I see, yeah, hunter died in Kidney with turtle up so wasn’t sure
turtle up, or not used?
stark reef
Not used
Just died
I have def killed hunters in turtle with Odyns Fury though
Prob just animation bug
Something about the way Odyns calculates damage is off
wheat jay
nope
its not immune
its deflect
so if you have sweeping or whirlwind buff on fuiry
and you hit somethng else close to turtled hutner
he still takes dmg
reduced by 30% cuz turtle
but still
dark sparrow
Yep or just kill him when the animation of turtle is going off, been killed by execute like that way to many times on my Hunter in SL
wheat jay
tranquility immunity for druid works the same way
wheat jay
Yep or just kill him when the animation of turtle is going off, been killed by e...
checked that with @fickle forge
that's actually not true
its just that the cast of exe precedes turtle by a milisecond
dark sparrow
How sure are you? I remember vividly one time I heared the turtle animation go off and still died to the execute charge thing from SL
Might have been spell q fuckery tho
fickle forge
It's cause you don't deflect already cast abilities
dark sparrow
Yea and because you had the execute charge thing in SL, execute was prob casted before I turtled hence killing me mid animation
dark sparrow
You can't wall any post-cast abilities/spells
Yea like with reflect or meld
floral mirage
this affect pvp?
stark reef
Yea and because you had the execute charge thing in SL, execute was prob casted ...
That’s what I feel odyns does
stark reef
this affect pvp?
Back to S tier we go
Imagine getting a 4% dam buff on an item. And now imagine it’s not even an item slot.
Better than any 2nd embellishment
boreal stone
this affect pvp?
it does
floral mirage
ty
obsidian loom
spice hornet
Lol bm hunter getting 5% more dam
haughty ice
Hey guys.I have a noob question. Is the Scalewarden set better or should i wear the honor gear ?
vapid tartan
So is rend and deep wounds buffed by 4% to start then an additional 5%? Or does the dot not count as an ability
vapid tartan
Hey guys.I have a noob question. Is the Scalewarden set better or should i wear ...
Whichever has higher ilvl in pvp
Scalewarden starts off at 427 which is lower than honor but if you upgrade it you get 447
haughty ice
@vapid tartan Okay thank you Honor gear is just 3 ilvl better but i dont get the setbonus
437 vs 434
haughty ice
ohhh thank you brother
vapid tartan
yup basically upgraded scalewarden > honor > regular scalewarden
haughty ice
Im trying to get some sparks of life then ^^
obsidian loom
sub rogue gutted
mild thunder
Is arms good now guys?
Arms or fury?
Is fury still bis?
Are we rerolling to arms on Tuesday?
onyx hinge
when unity
obsidian loom
they buffed the wrong things for arms but ill take it
they really want us to bleeds
obsidian loom
tuesday
you'll see 1.6k hardstucks pushing 2k this week on boomy/destro before the nerfs
mild thunder
they buffed the wrong things for arms but ill take it
They buffed everything
lean burrow
time to push boomy then 
obsidian loom
4% is nice
i want my damn 6s sharpen back
fucking rogues slow me 90% for 20 seconds and i cant get beefy ms
smadge
thick reef
Just did a solo with 2 mages, 1 arcane 1 fire. I felt like a healer. No agency. Over half the entire set of matches in root, sheep, frozen, slowed beyond range of charge. Hit something and do damage, it's a brain ded class. Prevent them from playing b/c your class has infinite cc and it's a skill thanggggg.
lean burrow
Just did a solo with 2 mages, 1 arcane 1 fire. I felt like a healer. No agency. ...
maybe try spear in caster lobby
runic wharf
whos more in shambles, rogues or dks
thick reef
maybe try spear in caster lobby
this was probably my biggest mistake
spice hornet
wait, dks got zero changes
sharp meteor
I think Mud failed to specify Unholy when he called the CEO of Arena to ask for DK buffs
sharp meteor
whos more in shambles, rogues or dks
Tossup between DKs and Outlaws
(even fucking tanks got buffs lmao)
stark reef
Can someone link the patch notes?
river walrus
Dks are dead unfortunately, blizzard hates us
obsidian loom
Dks might be getting a redesign
wheat jay
I meaaaaaan
Circle of pvp
One day its caster meta and you sit pillar
Next day its melee meta and casters have to kite 24/7 to maybe get a cast off
mild thunder
That's what casters feel when its melee meta
yea but fuck casters
second-class citizens fr
river trench
there is an arena style from another mmo that i would be interested to see wow put into the game, just as like a brawl to see how it was recieved.
anyone here do max level pvp in Blade and soul?
stark reef
That's what casters feel when its melee meta
WoW casters do not know the TERROR of a league of legends ADC main.
The night-sweats.
Farming 30min versing Thresh/Draven with another player literally attached to your back (fuck Yuumi mains, may a meteor strike them), dodging skill-shots for 30min straight just to get oneshot anyways by the tank Malphite and lose the game.
Even Mage mains in league get the belt if they mess up.
Actually, I guess the pre 10.7 ret meta was quite shit for most caters
Ret/war must've been not so fun to play
🤣
You can see the fear in his eyes 30sec in advance
stark reef
Let's go!
Any new findings or just playing what worked?
RB every lobby?
I love the damage but I don't trust it into double ranged just yet - feeling very vulnerable
boreal stone
raging blow
I played annihilator for a couple games
went 2-4 and 3-3
then swap back to raging blow
go 5-1 insta
stark reef
Got it, so just full send
boreal stone
yessir
stark reef
There are things I can do with anni I can't do with RB so I think I just have to re-learn my limits.
Anni I can 2v1 for ages if enemies have no CD's.
RB I have to swap if people kite away instead of chase to stay with healer. But people really can't tank RB damage
boreal stone
I was on my alt war thats only 2.1. kept going 2-4 with double warlock and 1800 healers
was not a good time
yeah, annihi is good if u want to stay alive and ur other teamate can land a kill
but everyone is pretty much a bot, so its up to you to get the kill tbh
like I had a couple rounds where I was getting set up on by a sub rogue with a destro on my team and i still outdmged the lock
tawny brook
Is RB higher priority than execute?
mild ember
Anyone know if when I'm in execute phase on someone, should I spam it or press it 2x and use a MS or just spam execute?
Because of the execute buff to MS.
dusk garden
is arms simpler than unholy
fresh valve
quittin pvp now
well I already quit but now im not coming back
unless they buff fury so hard it's 10.7 ret
obsidian loom
@elfin surge good session
elfin surge
<@269709440146604032> good session
🙂
obsidian loom
the 2s monk dm'ing you was max cringe
round holly
is there any point to upgrading honor gear?
A friend is saying it doesnt change the stats in pvp only in pve which doesnt sound right
river walrus
It's right
The honor gear already scales to max ilvl in pvp
So upgrading it only scales for pve
round holly
so like stats and stuff dont improve
river walrus
Only pve
river walrus
That's what everyone asked for I guess. People complained a lot about shadowlands system where you had to spend an absurd amount of honor to upgrade gear
I guess not. Only if you wanna use your pvp gear in pve
If you wanna do mythics
round holly
odd but okay lmfao
river walrus
Or you can use the extra honor to buy marks of honor for pvp tmogs from other expansions
vapid tartan
Anyone know if when I'm in execute phase on someone, should I spam it or press i...
Depends on talents, assuming you are running ep yes this is what you want to do usually
Press 2x and ms
river walrus
I wish they would get rid of honor cap and that we could send honor to alts
vapid tartan
Or you can use the extra honor to buy marks of honor for pvp tmogs from other ex...
You can do this
2k honor for 5 marks iirc
river walrus
Yeah
vapid tartan
it’s kinda a shit trade but I mean
river walrus
I do that a lot to get weapons and sets from other expansions I didn't play
vapid tartan
What else we gonna spend it on
Sell gear for gold? Lmao
would be cool if they let us convert honor to conq
Like 15k honor for 150 conq
idk
river walrus
It would actually
vapid tartan
oh wait there’s a vendor that lets you buy gliders and shit with marks rigjt
Anything else?
sharp meteor
No, it's just marks, strongboxes or dump it into shields to vendor for gold.
Well, and the BG consumables like feasts and saltwater potions.
elfin surge
the 2s monk dm'ing you was max cringe
i turned him into content
obsidian loom
as is tradition
river trench
whats everyones matches looking like here lately in ss? think part of my issue is i am undergeared in comparison, but i feel like im just getting shit on a lot of the time.
boreal stone
It may be time to invade the Mage discord
They have become whiny scoundrels due to fire mage nerfs
grand scaffold
grand scaffold
does this make arms vastly better than fury?
highly doubt it
10% more sks dmg and 10% more dot dmg overall another 4% dmg on everything and fatality which only helps sometimes
defo gonna help better than fury from what ive heard fury is just too good
urban skiff
does this make arms vastly better than fury?
vastly? No.
If anything it'll close the gap between two already equal specs
urban skiff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0OXZMuFWdo 🤣
why is he suuuuuch a loser?
Grow a chin like the rest of us
urban skiff
I'm not having this discussion with a tate's mate
grand scaffold
lmfao no evidence it was just meant to be a funny vid lmfao
uneven turret
OF/TR or Onslaught/Tenderize?
grand scaffold
im hearing tenderize
urban skiff
Some of us enjoy playing annie with onslaught. Others swear onslaught only pairs with RB builds
onslaught is more rampages and more passive damage reduction and more recklessness
OF is bigger burst and more avatar
muted surge
If anything it'll close the gap between two already equal specs
How is there a gap between 2 equals 
But fury was definitely better
uneven turret
But fury was definitely better
was?
urban skiff
But fury was definitely better
as evident by no nerfs and no buffs
muted surge
Considering arms got buffs they were not equal
urban skiff
Considering arms got buffs they were not equal
what blizzard acts on to manipulate people into playing the game and what is actual real life are two separate worlds entirely.
If players throw a tantrum every time fury is better than arms then you best believe they keep arms ahead of fury instead of keeping them equal
teal hedge
I am travelling north
urban skiff
Nerf lock
don't nerf lock, i can beat them
just gotta pretend to be brain damaged and they start relaxing and then boom, i bleed all over them
hard vector
what fury spec for solo que is the prefered one for a casual pvper 😄
im using this atm dont know if i should go odins fury
urban skiff
Thoughts on the nerfs to demo lock, destro lock, enh sham, sub rogue, mw monk and disc?
Will it be enough to make fury SSS tier?
boreal stone
Fury wasn’t really struggling into any of the nerfed specs. They were annoying to fight, but it was manageable. I don’t think it really has an effect on fury as much as it’ll have an effect on all the other melee. Hopefully more melees will start being good again in shuffle. Fury doesn’t do that great into most plate melee (warrior and pala take like no damage), but it does good into ww, rogue, hunter for the most part, etc.
If arms becomes meta again, fury won’t be that good I don’t think, it’ll be more like last season, but both specs will still be very viable
dreamy moat
these apply to pvp too?
are these changes active yet?
boreal stone
are these changes active yet?
tuesday
urban skiff
If arms becomes meta again, fury won’t be that good I don’t think, it’ll be more...
If arms becomes meta again it'll be easier to queue fury though and probably gain rank as well?
boreal stone
not really. arms shits on fury, so any arms lobby is just a 2-4/0-6 if they have a brain
urban skiff
I don't at all feel like arms shits on fury
Maybe i'm too low
but in 2s i run circles around them easy
boreal stone
yeah, I dont think 1600 cr 2s is a good way toi measure how arms does into fury. Arms can do their full damage to fury, whereas fury cannot. they both have the same amount of cc, but arms has ways to outplay it. on paper, arms beats fury every time
urban skiff
why can fury not do full damage?
boreal stone
parry
parry lines up with every avatar
fury wont be able to trade nearly as well as arms
u can def cheese an arms war tho if u disarm them during your damage
but thats risky asf, since u need disarm to live
urban skiff
I don't fully agree with this. Parry don't work while stunned and fury takes a passive 10% less damage just from enrage, couple with dstance fury is a really unattractive target for arms.
boreal stone
I mean youre jsut wrong, idk what to tell you
urban skiff
You join arena as arms, see a fury and think "that's always the best target"?
boreal stone
thats not what I said
I said if arms becomes meta, fury will do significantly worse than arms in a shuffle lobby
it doesnt make fury a killtarget, arms is just the better spec to play with, since fury cant do as much to an arms warrior as an arms warrior can do to a fury war
urban skiff
sounds like you're looking at this as arms fighting fury, where I'm thinking about which spec will do better in general in ss vs a variety of targets
boreal stone
for example, you have a double disc, destro lock, demo lock, fury, arms war
the arms does better with both the demo and the destro than the fury will with either one
urban skiff
I think 100% uptime on slaughterhouse alone is enough to make fury a really attractive partner in solo for most specs that can put out a lot of pressure.
boreal stone
you wont have 100% uptime with an arms warrior in ur lobby
urban skiff
again, who's talking about arms fighting a fury in a lobby?
I'm talking about which spec is more successful in soloshuffle in general
boreal stone
again, if arms becomes meta
youll be fighitng arms again
hence why arms will be in ur shuffle
urban skiff
But the arms won't be fighting ME.
It'll be always focusing another target because the fury looks like a really unappealing target
boreal stone
2 caster lobby with 2 warriors, the fury is gonna die easier than the arms will most of the time jsut because their defensives are a longer cd
and arms survivability isnt really tied to uptime like fury
so if the fury gets kited and has to go the arms war, the fury just dies
urban skiff
toe to toe is only a losing fight during cooldowns
the rest of the time slaughterhouse is going to mean the arms just has worse mitigation via needing more heals
fury takes 10% less damage and needs less healing, has higher pressure outside cds
boreal stone
youre entitled to your opinion 🙂
urban skiff
Is it not factual that fury takes 10% less damage via enrage uptime?
Is it not factual that slaughter house is a stronger ms effect than ms?
Is it not factual that fury self heal is stronger than ignore pain at less opportunity cost?
Is it not factual that fury has stronger sustained damage than arms outside cooldowns?
I'm not sure what you think is making arms the stronger spec in the other 105 seconds between the 15 second busts
but you haven't said anything besides "lol no"
boreal stone
youre basing your opinion on fighting 1600-1700 warriors. I am basing mine on fighting much higher rated arms warriors. I am telling you arms beats fury in every scenario. Fury does not do nearly as much damage to plate classes as arms does. this is a fact. accept it and move on
taht is if arms becomes meta and then meta shifts to a melee meta again like last season
urban skiff
If you can't explain why, I cannot take your claims seriously.
boreal stone
I ahve explained why
urban skiff
Why is arms dealing more damage to plate than fury?
they have the same % bleed damage
boreal stone
you just have a brick for a brain and cant comprehend
I have jsut told you multiple times why
urban skiff
You literally have not
saying "THIS IS FACTUAL" is not explaining. It's braying an opinion
boreal stone
if u need details: Sks ignores armor. Arms has much better cleave pressure. Arms gets more pressure during their go, even with sharpen nerfs. Arms is much more threatening to melees than fury is simply by class design. Sweeping strikes mortal strike/sharpen alone is worth 10x more than one person with a 36% MS
Fury doesnt cleave, arms does
thats what it comes down to
the only argument you could make is that fury would kill a caster before the arms war
urban skiff
Your example for arms domination was a 2 caster 2 melee lobby. How much is sweeping strikes worth there again?
boreal stone
it was destro demo in my example I believe. If they both train the casters in the lobby, its more in favor of fury. However, if the arms plays to peel their caster, the fury loses
if the fury plays to save their caster by going arms, they lose even faster
if the warlocks are any good, fury is just gonna get kited during their go too, so the likelyhood of getting a full mortal strike up during ur go is much smaller than if the arms just presses sharpen and does their burst
torpid roost
Why would arms specifically deal more damage against plate than fury?
boreal stone
its not that arms does more to plate, its that fury does less
torpid roost
That's saying the same thing, but, explain that statement then
boreal stone
its not saying the same thing. There is a difference between saying arms does more damage to plate and saying fury does less to plate. One implies that arms does more damage to plate than other armor types
urban skiff
I think you're looking at it wrong
torpid roost
13 > 11. 13 is more than 11, this is an accurate statement. 11 is less than 13, this is also an accurate statement.
Why would fury deal less than arms to plate specifically
boreal stone
theres a difference between accurate and precise
Fury doesnt have any armor ignoring mechanics
that alone makes a significant impact
urban skiff
The goal is to reduce a target to 0 hp.
Migitation (and selfhealing) is undoing damage your enemy does
reduces the value of the damage the enemy can do.
healing reduction is increasing the value of the damage you do.
Even if fury does less damage the slaughterhouse will make it matter as much. AND increases the value of the damage their partner does.
I'm still going to claim fury does more sustained damage than arms.
boreal stone
that is entirely dependant on what youre fighting
torpid roost
I was under the impression than odyn's was still non physical, could run CSHB, bleed, thundering roar
Most of which is also available to arms but armor doesn't make a huge amount of difference here
boreal stone
those only account for a few percent of your overall damage. if you look at a 5+ minute game of a full plate lobby, the fury will be on the bottom by far
urban skiff
those only account for a few percent of your overall damage. if you look at a 5+...
the full 5 minutes don't matter.
urban skiff
sub rogues are generally completely at the bottom every lobby. Does that mean their damage is bad?
primal cosmos
Fury has to run a balance of haste and mastery in order to maintain sustained damage and self healing no?
boreal stone
you cant compare sub rogue to fury
sub has much more dingle target burst ina 5 second window than fury
boreal stone
no, jsut play full mastery and youre fine
urban skiff
you cant compare sub rogue to fury
I'm not. I'm challenging your view that the full 5 minutes of damage matters. What matters is the damage that changes the fight in your favor.
urban skiff
Or pick mastery more for more damage or more haste for more self healing.
haste might matter more when we get 4set. Pumping out more rampages means more bonus damage to bt.
boreal stone
damage is very important in a longer match
urban skiff
are u aware of healers going oom?
Slaughterhouse makes them go oom faster.
but that doesn't show on damage meters
boreal stone
it doesnt when u do 20% less damage than everyone else in the lobby
primal cosmos
Ok but slaughterhouse doesn’t compare to MS with sharpen and mortal wounds from bstorm if you take pvp talent
urban skiff
If you could have a ms effect that was 100% and lasted 1 minute but you only did 100 dps. Would you take it or not?
urban skiff
Ok but slaughterhouse doesn’t compare to MS with sharpen and mortal wounds from ...
slaughterhouse is 100% uptime. MS sharpen is not
primal cosmos
I can press mortal strike a hell of a lot of times in one round
boreal stone
Mortal strike doesnt take time to ramp up
urban skiff
what
primal cosmos
Sharpen then intensifies
boreal stone
mortal strike cant be intervened off to throw off stacks
mortal strike gets pressedf once and it has full value
urban skiff
Mortal strike doesnt take time to ramp up
neither does slaughterhouse? Once you've got one rampage rolling you're doing a ton of rampage onslaught rampage
urban skiff
mortal strike cant be intervened off to throw off stacks
slaughterhouse does not drop like stacks.
it drops one charge at a time
boreal stone
the entire MS falls after 20 seconds
urban skiff
the entire MS falls after 20 seconds
do you even play fury?
boreal stone
if u get stormbolted, tahts -3 seconds, then about 2 seconds per rampage, another 6 seconds. then u get disarmed during ur go because u dont have bladestorm for it, another -5 seconds
you see where this is going?
Im rank 3 fury NA
you are 1600 with a 40% win loss
im not tryna be an ass
but you ahve no idea what youre talking about
urban skiff
If you're rank3 then I think you need to learn how slaughterhouse stacks work and maybe you'll be rank1
boreal stone
LOL
urban skiff
each slaughterhouse is a separate duration. It takes 20 seconds PER APPLICATION for it to fall off. Unless you have a secret method to applying 3 rampages in 1 global you're full of shit
rampage bt bt rampage bt bt rampage -> 3 slaughterhouse stacks with I guess 3 seconds between each stack so 26 seconds for the full stack to fall off.
that's assuming you don't refresh the first stack with a new rampage before
I'm old and I'm casual. I don't deny I'm a shit player but your rank alone does not mean you know better how a mechanic works
boreal stone
youre jsut wrong
all the stacks fall
made sure to stack it extra slow too, just to show that they dont drop of by themselves
urban skiff
And what happens when you apply the 4th rampage?
urban skiff
Yes yes
boreal stone
you press rampage 3 times and its full value
urban skiff
WHat happens when you do 4 rampages, does the duration go backwards?
primal cosmos
I mean the whole thing started with arms being better than fury if arms becomes Meta again. Either way typically in a solo shuffle, arms and fury aren’t the kill target
boreal stone
WHat happens when you do 4 rampages, does the duration go backwards?
the fourth rampage has no effect on slaughterhouse. it doesnt refresh it, add any extra stacks, etc.
urban skiff
wait what
boreal stone
its not like shadowlands where it perma refreshed
urban skiff
I take it all back, I'm a complete dumbass
boreal stone
it stacks to a max of 12, expires, then you ahve to reapply it form scratch
urban skiff
it was supposed to be rolling stacks refreshing the oldest ones
primal cosmos
Does fury have a pvp talent similar to rebound?
urban skiff
Does fury have a pvp talent similar to rebound?
they have rebound, is that similar enough?
boreal stone
primal cosmos
Oh okay, I don’t play fury chill
boreal stone
all good 🙂
urban skiff
it stacks to a max of 12, expires, then you ahve to reapply it form scratch
jesus fuck this is toxic design
boreal stone
yeah, but it was BROKEN before
40% MS, infinite uptime with crushing blow charge, and only took 2 rampages to max stack
that was so awful for the game
urban skiff
I know it used to perfectly refresh
I remember telling my friend how amazing it was when it first came out and he kept telling me it was a nothingburger and nobody would play fury.
cue apparent ridiculous nerf
boreal stone
I miss necro banner
and crushing blow charge
and old slaughterhouse
I miss bladesrtorm too
urban skiff
cb charge would make me play cb onslaught fury in a heartbeat
boreal stone
Ive only been playing curshing blow
burst feels higher, dmg overall feels higher too
plus I have 4 set, so it works better
boreal stone
nice. would recoomend getting a weakaura or a TMW for it
urban skiff
sorry I was a dick before, I was sure I knew how slaughterhouse worked
boreal stone
I still need to get one lol
urban skiff
I might make a weakaura for it
boreal stone
its all good, im a bit of a toxic pos, so I can understand your annoyance
urban skiff
something that screams at me if it's high stacks, anything good is procced and the target is below 35% if i have vicious contempt
primal cosmos
Arms still better tho
urban skiff
Arms still better tho
u wot
urban skiff
fury is in every way iconic warrior
torpid roost
Slaughterhouse should probably get a rework
urban skiff
No other class can dualwield 2handers. It's the most iconic thing about warrior and fury has it
primal cosmos
Oh fuck srry I forgot, most of y’all play only mainly play arena/shuff
boreal stone
slaughterhouse just need to be the same way it used to stack and have like a 30% MS effect
primal cosmos
I mainly rbg so I forget that
torpid roost
Maybe just have stacks tick off over time and have it actually refresh
boreal stone
RBGs are weird I think
urban skiff
slaughterhouse just need to be the same way it used to stack and have like a 30%...
i'd settle for keeping current stacking method and let it stack to 70%
urban skiff
I mainly rbg so I forget that
i fucking miss rbg so much
urban skiff
thats so toxic lmfao
Don't we play fury to be toxic though?
boreal stone
we pllay fury for two big swords
primal cosmos
Rbg still around tho
boreal stone
to overcompensate for smol pp
torpid roost
That could actually lead to interesting gameplay, getting that many stacks ramped in such a short time window
urban skiff
arms is for sweaty people trying to be good. Fury is for angry naturals who just want to annoy people until either we win or they win but are super angry with us so technically it's still a win
torpid roost
I maintain my belief that execute should do a healing absorb
primal cosmos
Like touch of death
urban skiff
let us spell reflect touch of death
boreal stone
we live in a world where Onsalguht does more damage than mortal strike
urban skiff
ultimate play
torpid roost
Execute being a crushing amount of damage would be bullshit, but, it should be "lethal" - hence my healing absorb
boreal stone
I mean look at when youre leveling
primal cosmos
Onslaught does more damage than mortal strike?
boreal stone
if u get an execute proc, mobs insta die
urban skiff
I think execute should be rolled into BTs when target is in execute range
primal cosmos
Again I don’t play fury
boreal stone
not saying it should be that way in pvp, but overpower or even mortal strike are often a better global than execute nowadays
urban skiff
instead of BT doing 50% more damage just have us do an execute right after the BT for style points.
boreal stone
thats backwards
torpid roost
At the Brink - executes applied when mortal wounds is up absorb (numbers) healing for up to 6 seconds
boreal stone
Onslaught does more damage than mortal strike?
its comparable dmg, but MS used to hit for like 40-60k on average, onslaught has like a 70k ish average for me. it all kinda depends
Arms should be the spec with big numbers, not fury
torpid roost
Condemn might be too good in the current meta, and it encouraged rushing the guy you thought might be able to hurt you
urban skiff
fury should have infinite stacks of meat cleaver imho
primal cosmos
My Mortal strike average is around that without 2 overpower buffs
boreal stone
yeah, have to keep in mind youre also pressing sweeping strikes a lot
I havnt played arms since first week to be fair
torpid roost
Also yes
urban skiff
i know all my ideas sound outrageous but that's because fury needs outrageous stuff. All about rage
primal cosmos
One of my most pressed buttons
boreal stone
but the crit nerfs really hurt arms, and nothing compensated for that damage lost
primal cosmos
Max uptime on sweeping strikes
torpid roost
Out... RAGE...eous stuff?
boreal stone
bleeds and sks are nice and all, but they dont make up for losing so much mortal strike damage
urban skiff
but the crit nerfs really hurt arms, and nothing compensated for that damage los...
wait until hpal 10.1.5
Goodbye crits
primal cosmos
I’m staking big mastery followed by crit. Keeping haste around 10% for arms
boreal stone
cant wait to fight hapl and think, why tf does everyone have pet sac on them?
torpid roost
Way to fix SKS - make maximal/pandemic timers on deep wounds crazy long, allow it to roll like ignite used to
boreal stone
crit is prob ur least desired stat atm for arms, haste just buffs all of your overall damage
they need to make SKS not make the bleeds expire, and instead cause bleeds to do a certain amount of dmg extra for a short duration imo
and buff MS/execute
the way sks worked was super toxic and not good for the game
torpid roost
That could work too, even though I've recently come to like SKS
boreal stone
also jsut bad design to make all ur bleeds fall off, have to reapply them, etc.
urban skiff
way to fix SKS is have it take just a few ticks off duration and reduce cd a lot
or have it make a new bleed instead of deal instant damage and now you reapply bleeds
primal cosmos
But if you look at 4 set for arms (which is trash) you would want your deep wounds to crit so crit actually is important. IMO
urban skiff
for more bleed
torpid roost
Or just add to duration and damage, or, yes, a rolled bleed for more static pressure
primal cosmos
Yup but for a rbg player I think it’ll be fine
boreal stone
yeah, i dont think u have to min max for rbgs too much
torpid roost
Minmaxing for rbgs is just different
urban skiff
Oh by the way guys, apparently some of the hotfix nerfs are already through, specifically moonkin nerfs
torpid roost
Still have to do it
boreal stone
good to know
torpid roost
Deserve it for how bullshit they've been for a minute
urban skiff
yeah, fuck boomies tbh
i actually enjoy boomies down in my range
they may be annoying but fury move so fast they waste time trying to run bombs into me
and intervening the bash clones never get old
boreal stone
u cant intervene casts
primal cosmos
It’ll be interesting to see the MW and disc nerfs. That changes the ball game fr
urban skiff
u cant intervene casts
no you intervene the bash but you're already DR'd so now you kick the clone
boreal stone
yeah, MW nerfs are good for the game. it makes all the caster cleave games a lot faster
boreal stone
no you intervene the bash but you're already DR'd so now you kick the clone
ahh yes, a man of culture
wait till u intervene ur first rogue blind
urban skiff
or you miss the intervene in time but now you're still on top of the moonkin who was on top of the bash target
Or you figure "fuck it" and grab executioner and now you're just ridiculously oppressive against druids who still play with a script that says how to make me waste my charges
Pvp gets progressively worse as people get better at games. When people are bad it's so much more fun.
vapid tartan
But if you look at 4 set for arms (which is trash) you would want your deep woun...
Idk, I’ve been playing with 4p and with pve stats (30% crit) feels like you never get more than 1-2 procs in st with the amount of times you hit ms
I mean I guess you’ll be getting procs off cleaving and bs on pets but it’s not much
teal hedge
I am now 187 km away from my destination
I'm further north than most of the people in Canads
(Headed for Sundsvall, Sweden)
vapid tartan
Damn where you headin
teal hedge
So far north
vapid tartan
Nice
Must be cold over there
Scandinavia has some cool nature I just love the warm weather over here so much lol
teal hedge
It's summer, but it's around 17,5 C° where we are rn
vapid tartan
Damn
teal hedge
Yeah, pines have begun taking over, the forests are pretty cool
vapid tartan
That’s like fall/winter here in cali
teal hedge
I live in one of the swamp parts :P
But yeah, we'll get around 10 hours worth of driving today
wispy drum
Oh by the way guys, apparently some of the hotfix nerfs are already through, spe...
Oh, RBGs are playable again?
Every team at 1700+ was at least double to quad boomkin and it just was not fun to play against.
urban skiff
Idk, I’ve been playing with 4p and with pve stats (30% crit) feels like you neve...
don't get too used to critting. Hpal gets denounce in patch 10.1.5
boreal stone
I made a basic weakaura that tracks avatar, recklessness, battle trance (hopefully it get bug fixed soon) whirlwind stacks, enraged regen, and the 4 set. pastebin isnt working for me, hence the different website: https://pastes.io/dhkysjwmh3
muted surge
Looks like a virus
boreal stone
its not, i promise lol
muted surge
Ngl I still don’t get the point of tracking avatar etc, same in pve
boreal stone
If I could get pastebin to work I would
muted surge
But that’s me
boreal stone
its just for the proc from odyns fury for me
muted surge
its not, i promise lol
Yeye jk
boreal stone
so I know how many globals I can get in to min max pressing onslaught/tier buffed bloodbath during the avatar
muted surge
Guess it’s worth for fury then
boreal stone
im making some changes, one sec
muted surge
Never touched that wicked spec
urban skiff
Never touched that wicked spec
I don't agree with your lifestyle but I'll RAMPAGE to protect it
stark reef
Ngl I still don’t get the point of tracking avatar etc, same in pve
Much easier to line things up
Here you see I have 8sec of csmash, 16sec of avatar, 3sec of reck, see how long the dots are, perfect time to press sks
Cleanest UI NA - subscribe to buy it on my patreon
boreal stone
my eyes hurt looking at that LOL
boreal stone
crisp as in an 80 mph wind at the top of a mountain, colder than shit, stinging ur eyes crisp
then yes
if it works for u, thats all that matters
ppl flame me for having empty spots on my bars. so I just started adding random duplicate abilities to fill them
stark reef
But sks isn’t fun so <:weird:718676218500874320>
Screenie is from last season - haven't recorded anything this time
boreal stone
yeah, i feel like a WA for sks isnt really that needed. can def help ppl learn the spec/develop muscle memory tho
stark reef
yeah, i feel like a WA for sks isnt really that needed. can def help ppl learn t...
It's a TMW icon
Just pops up if it's off CD, otherwise it's not there
Starts to fade in on 10sec CD
boreal stone
TMW is such a dogshit addon
stark reef
I love it
boreal stone
made my bigdebuffs bug out
boreal stone
yeah, it like wouldnt show when I ccd a target next to their nameplate
it was gigafried
thats the WA I just made. super simple. might add deathwish in the future
stark reef
That's not even that different from mine
boreal stone
yeah
gonna have to test it with nameplateCD filling my entire screen too. we'll see
just wanted something to track my 4 set without having to import a spaceship PVE UI
stark reef
This is how they work - they show if off CD, then they show whilst running with glow, then after they're gone and fade in once 10sec until off CD
boreal stone
interesting
stark reef
Got big CD's upper left, defensives and stuff i need quickly lower left, mobility lower right
Upper right is all enemy buffs/frame
lucid walrus
Much easier to line things up
that's NASA ui to me i'm ngl
then again i use like omnicd, gladius and that's it. nearly everything else vanilla
boreal stone
then again i use like omnicd, gladius and that's it. nearly everything else vani...
this is the way
dusk garden
is arms still meta in solo shuffle?
undone pumice
Arms = big arms
magic wing
is arms still meta in solo shuffle?
No
magic wing
Much easier to line things up
Im sorry but wtf is that
primal cosmos
Lmao
dusk garden
arms is F tier, time to reroll
dam rly?
primal cosmos
No
stark reef
Im sorry but wtf is that
Straight up gaming is what that is
World of Warcraft is a game played looking at square icons and bars filling and emptying
The rest is just ambiance
quaint ruin
Is there a fix for the fucking feign death bug =
fickle forge
You go afk, it's the meta strategy
shy aurora
Just used it on alt, 100k. Super fast and chill
magic wing
Straight up gaming is what that is
Im only looking at the brown bar with my name on the dps meter
urban skiff
My goal is a single bar that shows 0 - 100% and then fills up depending on how many simultaneous damage increase effects i have running at the same time
like an overdrive thing
stark reef
My goal is a single bar that shows 0 - 100% and then fills up depending on how m...
My goal is using this UI holding top 10 standing:
And then sell it to people saying it’s optimal
urban skiff
I love the maximalist style. It's all about making sure all info is available no matter which pixel I'm looking at.
urban skiff
make everything float
and then also make gladiatorlossa announce everything
in every language
stark reef
In Chinese so I can learn as i play
urban skiff
you play 5d chess i play (n^infinity)d dumbass
stark reef
And have subtitles of a motivation speech run across the screen like an infomercial
urban skiff
also have a cadre of buddies slapping your back
stark reef
“WINNING IS A MINDSET.”
stark reef
also have a cadre of buddies slapping your back
I already had this as my chat cover when I was streaming
urban skiff
stream chat "what's that slapping noise?"
roxi: "Just my buddy uuuuuuuugh motivating me"
am i warrior now
stark reef
stream chat "what's that slapping noise?"
roxi: "Just my buddy uuuuuuuugh motiva...
Bottom left
Best gif ever made
muted surge
Is that part of the premium workout ?
urban skiff
That gif isn't actually looping, it's showing realtime roxi getting to rank2
urban skiff
There's a lot of talk about how 3/6 in solo is a draw and shouldn't be rewarded
I kinda feel like going 3/6 and gaining no rating and no mmr is shit
Like a permanent plateau with no way out
urban skiff
Sure but
The game has access to an almost infinite number of potential partners and opponents
With a good enough matchmaking algorithm it can guarantee a 50% win rate no matter how much you improve incrementally
stark reef
Is that part of the premium workout ?
That’s the entire one. I did 15min of this and sent it in. Fingers crossed.
muted surge
With a good enough matchmaking algorithm it can guarantee a 50% win rate no matt...
It’s only 50% if you don’t improve
That’s the whole point of ranks
But yes, it feels shit to not gain any points after wasting a lot of time
stark reef
undone pumice
Excuse me what
muted surge
4 pages what
stark reef
Of exercises
muted surge
Wait you are German 🦃
stark reef
Yeah
urban skiff
It’s only 50% if you don’t improve
the game knows if you've improved and how much
undone pumice
or the obesity before getting /fit/
stark reef
I just googled "asian calves" - this came up
urban skiff
It’s only 50% if you don’t improve
win 5/6 vs people same MMR and only gain 50 rating
stark reef
That's normal I think
muted surge
Well that’s bcs of the change
stark reef
30 for 4/2, 50 for 5/1, 70 for 6/0
urban skiff
I got 1800 in s1 straight from 1670
stark reef
In that range
muted surge
Last season it would have been 90 or so
urban skiff
and I'm super sure I didn't go 6 or 5 wins for that
urban skiff
waiting for wife to come down so I can post my calves
muted surge
yea now that its summer time im buying shoes for hiking
gotta get on top of every mountain here :D
stark reef
I did this workout and realized how much I neglected explosive training - have just been lifting, doing jump lunges and burpees felt mildly discriminating
undone pumice
Hiking is best thing you can do for calves
generally anything where you walk or move upwards
stairs too
moved my bed nd setup upstaris from the basement today i felt it in my calves 100%
urban skiff
My best explosive training / cardio was when I still had access to a prowler with 200kg weights. I miss having that
urban skiff
generally anything where you walk or move upwards
walking backwards is amazing for knee health
stark reef
Yeah, my knee health isn't great, also noticed that today
muted surge
so maybe you dont get accepted?
stark reef
Have to just do more dynamic stuff rather than just go in and barbell squat
undone pumice
walking backwards is amazing for knee health
i dont have knee problems but ill keep it in mind
urban skiff
everyone gets knee problems eventually
undone pumice
who decided that
stark reef
Joint health is honestly my biggest reason for eventually taking gear
urban skiff
who decided that
whomever designed humans with moving components
stark reef
I can't imagine how nice it must be to just recover in 2 days like nothing happened
muted surge
Wait it helps with that?
undone pumice
ill keep doing my tibialis raises to delay that joint damage as long as possible
muted surge
Gotta jump on it soon then
undone pumice
pretty sure HGH is the onyl gear that helps with joints no?
stark reef
Wait it helps with that?
Massively - biggest reason why pro athletes take so much - it's not about the size and not even that much about the strength - they can just do crazy volume and go agane the next day
undone pumice
ah ye
urban skiff
Wait it helps with that?
yes and no
undone pumice
gear improves recovery super hard
stark reef
pretty sure HGH is the onyl gear that helps with joints no?
I'm not an expert - just know that anybody who does sports for a living is probably saucing to some degree
undone pumice
but u see lots of dudes in strength sports tearing muscles off their bones and joints because of the gear letting their muscles get way too inhumanly strong