#pvp

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vapid tartan
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There’s still enough idiots at 1800 you’ll b fine

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Prolly gonna have some 3-3s tho shits unpredictable

mint pulsar
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Not talking SS, i dont have time to sit que sadly.

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Trying to find new mates for 3s but damn LFG is a bitch if you dont have a r1 to link as DPS 😉

mild thunder
fossil mortar
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Just link mud's profile, say you are on an alt account

elfin surge
mild thunder
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@elfin surge couldnt have done it without me

lean burrow
mint pulsar
mint pulsar
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❤️

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No but tbh, ppl demand too much in lfg. If you dont havr achievements from the correct season or bracket pr ilvl, transmog or race, people just wont even reply

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Shitfest out there

mild thunder
# lean burrow

need to add one more at the end that's just precog doomerism

mint pulsar
mild thunder
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female tauren make me bust

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udder sexiness

mint pulsar
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female tauren and male draenei make the cutest babies

torpid roost
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Like if you're that good, but you aren't actually good at the game, like... are you a grandmaster fighting game person or are you just like, an idiot savant?

mild thunder
torpid roost
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Yep, that too

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Precog is kinda horseshit

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Give something similar to melee, if you slow or root me while I'm already rooted, 6sec unstoppable and I do double damage

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Oh, that would be fucking busted and completely retarded? Yep.

mint pulsar
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"For every 1 second the warrior hasnt been within 1 yrd of you, he gains a stacking buff that will make you shit your pants once he connects"

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wheres that embellishment?

mild thunder
wheat jay
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Y'all cry about precog now, or what?

wheat jay
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Well i do have power over you

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For i have disarm now

mild thunder
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jokes on you, i save trinket for disarms

wheat jay
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Scatter

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Root

mild thunder
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bladestorm

wheat jay
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Diamond ice

mild thunder
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avatar

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reflect

wheat jay
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2nd root

mild thunder
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gnome racial

wheat jay
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Lmao gnome

mild thunder
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Gnomechomsky

wheat jay
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Ok check this

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I los you

mild thunder
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ok check this

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i los my healer to chase you

vapid tartan
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Bois what is 3rd talent into frost mage/ele/disc? Takin sharpen/banner for sure not sure what else

mild thunder
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they're all shit

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id take demolition tho probs... between fmage/disc there's a lot of absorbs

vapid tartan
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Yeah that’s what I was thinking

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When is duel good?

mild thunder
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or duel if you aren't the kill-target

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^

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but if you're arms into fmage/ele, there's a good chance you're the kill-target atm

vapid tartan
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do you have to be in same area, or could you just duel then charge/leap off to another target and still have their damage reduced on teammate?? Say playing against a melee/caster

teal hedge
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Only 18 days left of school, then we on the grind

mild thunder
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otherwise you insta die

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esp since blizz made it easy to track in 10.1

vapid tartan
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Yeah I’ll try taking it when I’m with a squishy ranged could probably help

warm portal
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@mild thunder thanatos is cooler than susano

stark reef
stark reef
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Went afk on the rounds with me, then played the others, we both went 2/4

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Tbh, I don’t blame him, was arms + fury vs destro + bm

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I think destro went 6/0

mild thunder
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awilix > susano > nem > thana

wheat jay
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My warr is Artji, hunter is Survivartji

stark reef
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I see

wheat jay
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Im full pve now

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Cuz I cba waiting 1h in q for a game with inters xD

mild thunder
stark reef
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Remote Desktop is a game-changer

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Queue from phone

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@elfin surge we need you to play shuffle and be first war to reach 2.4k.

Trying times for the boys.

elfin surge
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lmao

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i hardly even shuffled last ssn

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u think imma waste my time tryharding for 2400

mild thunder
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pvp sucks in general atm

elfin surge
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lmmao

mild thunder
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and shuffle sucks even harder

stark reef
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Do people usually take this long to reach elite?

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At the beginning of a season?

mild thunder
elfin surge
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i already am

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imma just log to cap

wheat jay
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Quick glad and chill?

mild thunder
elfin surge
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I deleted a 38 to duo horde and keep the name (didnt even die)

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so i have a 20 duo and 12 solo

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rn

steep inlet
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It’s s2 beginning and all my class discord and guild discord are full of people already fed up

mild thunder
steep inlet
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The state of PvP lel

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Tbh I already don’t give a shit

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Too

mild thunder
stark reef
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I’m honestly really enjoying the games. My only issue are queues and I fixed that so now I’m having a great time.

steep inlet
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Game succ

stark reef
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Great matches vs good players, able to hold my own and slowly improve. What more can you ask from pvp?

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Even get to rustle the occasional jimmies

mild thunder
steep inlet
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yeah and fuck queues too

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40 min on my war aint nobody got time for that

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so i chill on my hpriest

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but healer is stressful atm

stark reef
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WoW players love to complain.

steep inlet
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i prefer 10x playing elder scrolls online with epic trifaction RvR mass pvp now they replaced servers

stark reef
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Oh, they did?

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I was a super sweaty MagSorc a few years back

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Was rank 3 for a few months

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But the lag in Cyrodil

steep inlet
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no more lag

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i have fucking epic battles every day

stark reef
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In that case cyrodil has to be amazing

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Also loved the raids

steep inlet
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it is ^^

stark reef
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Just not enough content but the raids themselves are clutch

steep inlet
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content is massive now too

stark reef
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Played through vet sunspire, amazing rading experience

steep inlet
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my imperial dragon knight chad

mild thunder
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imagine getting to play other mmos critcake

stark reef
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Graphics are gorgeous in that game

steep inlet
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roxi

stark reef
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I’ve sweated a lot of MMOs

mild thunder
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everything else is unplayable

stark reef
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Try ESO

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really good game

mild thunder
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no thanks

stark reef
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Amazing pvp

mild thunder
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id rather not have perma 250ms

stark reef
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Apparently they fixed that

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That was the downside

steep inlet
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its 30 ms now

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servers replaced in april

mild thunder
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you cant fix living on the other side of the world

elfin surge
steep inlet
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wtf is this mude

elfin surge
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ugly bald baby a level 2 orc child

steep inlet
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nice

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Eso is so fucking underrated

near delta
stark reef
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Combat is slick, to, with the 2 bars

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Rotation is seriously autistic though

steep inlet
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tbh they worked hard on it and its like 3rd mmos in population RN

stark reef
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I wanted to join a high end raiding guild and they told me everyone on their core roaster practices on a dummy 2-3 hours a day

steep inlet
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haha wtf

elfin surge
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you are a level 1 crook

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do you turn me in for 1 million gold

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or help me for 100 levels

mild thunder
steep inlet
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man i love thoses ads

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in france they dub it with idiotic voices and lines

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its full nonsense

stark reef
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Yeah ESO high end raiding is a super small scene of turbo-nerds. The fact that you can cancel animations with bar swapping is what makes it so difficult to perform the rotation at its best, especially once dealing with mechanics

steep inlet
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yep

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and for cyrodiil without lags i had lord of the ring moments

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look this epic charge to break a siege

shy aurora
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Where the fuck is the shadowflame table in azure span?

stark reef
mild thunder
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short answer - yes
lfg has been struggling all of DF because of soloQ, and early season is always quieter than the end of season when people are pushing for glad

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wow pvp has also been in one of the worst states in its history since 10.0.7

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start of season is usually okay, mid it drops off hard and then end of season is usually the biggest for lfg enthusiasts

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no one wants to push w1/2 tho because they're just versing r1s at 1800

granite basin
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People wait for ratings to get inflated

mild thunder
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^

granite basin
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Even people not pushing for r1 will wait

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Because it makes the climb to 1800 or 2100 easier

mild thunder
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waste of time

granite basin
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It's why you have people who were 2400 last season who are 1600 right now

lyric violet
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I like playing the first two weeks

granite basin
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And freaking out because they can't get past it

lyric violet
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Its fun to play the really good people

mild thunder
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why bother getting better when you're gonna stay hardstuck 1800 if you can just come back last week and get an easy 2.1

granite basin
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I'd still say to just pvp

lyric violet
granite basin
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If you want to

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There's no reason not to

elfin surge
lyric violet
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Getting better is for suckers

mild thunder
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it's okay, at least im a god at smite

elfin surge
granite basin
lyric violet
mild thunder
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best jungler in oce (im the only one critcake)

hot solstice
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love these lobbies

elfin surge
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its so beautiful

lyric violet
mild thunder
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@elfin surge we push r1 together when riot mmo drops

hot solstice
mild thunder
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it's gonna save mmo's copium

worthy fern
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Lol

granite basin
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Riot mmo gonna be bought by nexon okayge

worthy fern
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Why

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Riot makes like only pvp games

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I mean they have no reason to make an mmo other than a desire to make a good one

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Doesn’t make sense financially

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So I think they are going to do it right

granite basin
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All the games are just rips of what's popular so it'll probably be based on wow and ff

worthy fern
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Didn’t riot make valorany

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Yea

mild thunder
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this is a super weird metric lmao
all of riot's games are wildly successful and popular

worthy fern
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They’re doing fine

magic wing
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I LOVE how ilvl increased but arms dps decreased by like 50%

mild thunder
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just because they're not all esports-dominant, that doesnt mean they're failures lol

magic wing
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Amazing gameplay truly

worthy fern
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Is the riot mmo set in league world?

mild thunder
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yes

worthy fern
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That’s going to make it popular alredy

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What gave wow it’s inital fan base

mild thunder
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chances are it'll be fairly pvp-focused given that's what riot is experienced in and has proven success in

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they know how to make compelling pvp games

worthy fern
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Yea

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I expect an action bar of like 10 buttons or so similar to gw2

elfin surge
worthy fern
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Action based combat

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Dodge mechanics

mild thunder
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yea probably moba-lite gameplay, similar to lost ark

worthy fern
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Same reason anyone makes one rigjt now

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Passion for the genre

magic wing
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Copy gw2 combat to a t and it will be a good game

granite basin
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I imagine the mmo is going to be pve primarily as everything riot makes is marketed as a simpler and easier to get into version of other games

mild thunder
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because they're different genres with different audiences... having a pvp-focused mmo doesn't mean there'll be no pve content

worthy fern
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Gw2 is pvp focused and has decent pve content

mild thunder
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riot knows that there is a gaping hole in the mmo market and they're the only viable financial/reputable competitor to blizzard

granite basin
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If we're lucky youmuus khaxix will make it into the mmo and everyone gets killed in 0.2

worthy fern
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^

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I hope not

granite basin
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Surely not

mild thunder
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people will also always play riot games on release because riot is known for polish and leading genres

granite basin
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But that doesn't mean we don't get to be one shot by kha

worthy fern
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There are so many races in the world it wouldn’t make sense not to have char creation

mild thunder
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that class is so fucking cool

granite basin
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50% playerbase noxus 45% zaun

worthy fern
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Gw2 is my second favorite mmo by far and the best combat system for sure

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I don’t play league, what are some classes they could have in the mmo

mild thunder
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idk why anyone plays wow when you guys could all play gw2 tbh... i play because i get 300ms on the closest server for aus

lyric violet
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I wanna play sett in an mmo

mild thunder
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otherwise id be a gw2 main

lyric violet
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I wanna be slamming mfers

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Grappling character in an mmo would be so cool lol

sage raptor
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Gw2 class design is interesting. I just started but from the looks of it, the necromancer can be melee, ranged, or a mix of both. Is that the same for the other Gw2 classes?

worthy fern
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@mild thunder gw2 needs legit arenas

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The small team bgs are fun but get old

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And wvw is hard to get into

mild thunder
lyric violet
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Star Wars has arena

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Play me some hutball

mild thunder
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swtor class design is omega fucking boring tho

granite basin
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Probably just use the character archetypes

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I.e. bruiser

mild thunder
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swtor started off unique and cool but now every spec is a budget ripoff of a wow spec

granite basin
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Yuumi

lyric violet
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Thats true for swtor

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I thought the medic spec was kinda cool

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Healing people by shooting them

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Lmaooo

mild thunder
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lost ark and gw2 both seem more fun than wow, esp in regards to pvp and class design

granite basin
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Some killing floor strate

worthy fern
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Sw galaxies > swtor

mild thunder
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berserker in lost ark was so much fun

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fucking big ass sword

worthy fern
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Galaxies had great pvp

mild thunder
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comboing monsters

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then i tried to wpvp and couldnt roll without getting dragged back every time because of the ping

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and i realised it was unplayable

sage raptor
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Lost Ark is a game you play at night when it's raining and the TV is on in the background

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You just turn your mind off when you play LOST Ark

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Yeah

mild thunder
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wow is incredibly smooth and polished (despite how shit it is at times), but tab-target combat is dated af

sage raptor
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Are there better alternatives?

mild thunder
granite basin
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Wow is very addon reliant

mild thunder
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new world was an abyssmal fucking mess, but you could definitely build a really good combat system out of those bones

mild thunder
granite basin
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Pretty sure most people don't even know what DR is

mild thunder
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pve addons are super overused

granite basin
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Which is why they reset the stun before it resets okayge

mild thunder
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it's too late now, but blizzard should've banned WAs when they first started to become a thing and instead bake some basic version of it into the game so that it's more accessible

worthy fern
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Wow has very clean combat that makes sense in terms of trading

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A lot of other mmos aren’t like that

granite basin
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They could still do it. They have the edit ui feature now so

worthy fern
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They press x I press y etc

mild thunder
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banning WAs isnt feasible at this rate

worthy fern
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Gw2 combat can sometimes just be a cluster fuck

mild thunder
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too popular, too much outcry if they did it

granite basin
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No but if they added their own then there wouldn't be reason to indoctrinate new players

mild thunder
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plus i have no faith in their ability to implement a viable in-game alternative

granite basin
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Wbo already get shit on by the old players who vote kick them for not going the right way

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In general

mild thunder
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the sad part is that wow arenas are an incredibly unique form of pvp that doesnt really exist anywhere else in the market... blizzard is essentially sitting on a goldmine of untapped market potential but doesnt give the slightest fuck about doing anything with it, so once wow finally dies "arena-style" pvp will be gone forever

granite basin
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Idk seeing people get kicked from time walking is interesting

worthy fern
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The game is basically unplayable without addons

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At least pvp is

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Not having built in dr tracker

mild thunder
granite basin
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Yeah

worthy fern
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Buff tracking on name plates etc

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Right

mild thunder
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and that there's no communication to new players about those things

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lol

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cmon blizz

granite basin
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There's also not a good way to recap how you even died

mild thunder
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fucking retard monkey devs

steep inlet
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i have an insane wow fatigue

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wow pvp fatigue

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and i play since EU beta

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i have it more than ever

mild thunder
steep inlet
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so much strange decisions for pvp

mild thunder
granite basin
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You'd have to Google an ability name read in your damage log to even find out how the ability works

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I think that's just how games are now tho. No one speaks in game everyone's on discord

mild thunder
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from 11.0 onward, pretty much all pvp development will be soloQ-centric

steep inlet
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sure

granite basin
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Yeah that wouldn't shock me

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Maybe queues wouldn't be 40 minutes xs

mild thunder
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wow bgs are fun for what they are

torpid roost
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Arena pvp will be in another game eventually, I assure you

worthy fern
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@mild thunder I was saying the other day there should 3v3 skirmishes vs AI

mild thunder
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but they're not a long-term sustainable form of pvp endgame content

worthy fern
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Like the island exp ai

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With a little helper to show things on screen

granite basin
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Bgs get boring when you stop getting anything for doing it

worthy fern
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But they would need to implement the stuff to do that

torpid roost
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Could have a lot of style upgrades for it

worthy fern
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Like an arena training ground

steep inlet
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not popularity

granite basin
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Honor is a useless currency

mild thunder
# granite basin Maybe queues wouldn't be 40 minutes xs

they still havent fixed it keks
they just keep throwing extra incentives at healers instead of fixing the retarded dampening that makes them not want to play in the first place... in order for healers to want to queue solo shuffle, they have to be able to reliably and convincingly influence the outcomes of games... and in order for solo shuffle to not be a horrible, boring mess, healers cant be able to reliably and convincingly impact the outcomes of games

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it's just a horrible game-mode

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it shouldnt exist

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it doesnt make sense for what wow arenas have been

granite basin
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On top of mmr being idiotic for healers yes

torpid roost
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Healer diff is a thing

granite basin
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Getting 11 rating for going 5 wins is nice

torpid roost
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Plenty of healers going 6-0

mild thunder
torpid roost
granite basin
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Seeing people go 6-0 and rating unchanged LOL

mild thunder
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why bother queueing if there's a solid chance that you're just an npc for someone else's 0-6

torpid roost
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Especially given that you probably waited forever for the queue as a dps, or have a persistent spike in your blood pressure as a healer

mild thunder
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healer diff is only a thing if one healer is expertly fucking retarded

granite basin
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Depends on mmr

torpid roost
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Lowest I've gotten is 6

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I logged out immediately

mild thunder
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lowest ive gotten is 0

torpid roost
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The fuck

granite basin
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If ur mmr is above your match that they put you in then you could win all 6 and get nothing because the game automatically says you should win all 6

mild thunder
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yep, blizz put me in a lobby where i either went 6-0 or gained nothing

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ty, small indie company

torpid roost
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If I get nothing for winning all 6, don't put me in that fucking lobby

granite basin
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And if you lose one you're punished heavily

torpid roost
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Unless you're like 3k+ that shouldn't even be a conversation

granite basin
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So you waited in queue to either lose rating, get 0 rating, or get +5 rating

mild thunder
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i also went like 8 games before seeing another melee when i was getting the 1600 achi on my enh

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that's when i decided i wasnt doing soloQ again

torpid roost
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I learned that the hard way beginning of s1

granite basin
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And if I'm not mistaken healers are only matched against the other healers rating

worthy fern
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Shuffle stays making me question why I play wow

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Waiting 30 min jsut for the difference between a 4-2 and 3-3 to be someone not pressing a defensive

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Or jsut throwing

mild thunder
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because he never used it

torpid roost
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Tried to push when 1. I didn't know shit about shit, and 2. My gear sucked, and 3. Arms was in a really bad spot. Went in raw, because, I've been 2600+ before, I'll be fine, nope. Landed in the 1100s being buttfucked by demon hunters

teal hedge
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@mild thunder Susano ahh pfp

mild thunder
granite basin
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Spend more time in queue than I do in games

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Xd

torpid roost
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*also hadn't played for 3 years or so

mild thunder
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susano is a chad

worthy fern
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Hunters trap dps all the time, hardly anyone kicks or if they do kick they just give someone precog 5 times a game

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No dispels on roots

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Or anything

torpid roost
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Precog is horseshit, think we've covered that one already

teal hedge
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I wouldn't know, only assasins I play are Pele and Serquet 😎

worthy fern
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I have more 3-3s this season than last by far

granite basin
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Had a druid who only cyclones me one game and reflected everyone one

torpid roost
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Loki main don't @ me

mild thunder
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pele and serqet both super fun ngl... pele was my favourite god release until king arthur

mild thunder
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holy fuck he was so fun

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i was the most degenerate KA solo main for months after his release

teal hedge
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Otherwise only diamond god I got is tyr

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Tyr my beloved

torpid roost
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Actually I played Nemesis more than Loki but people seem to feel a type of way against Loki

teal hedge
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I mean, they changed him up

torpid roost
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I... I'm not sure I agree with this sentiment

teal hedge
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I agree

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Helps alleviate the nerfs

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If everybody is strong then warrior can remain strong

torpid roost
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I mean, do we have fun against any mage with more than 2 functioning brain cells?

teal hedge
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Haven't played enough, but ice-mages feel icky to play against.

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*frost

torpid roost
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Or boomkin, lolprecogwhenidon'tcastlolololimachickennn

mild thunder
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thanatos

teal hedge
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Why do you have multiple accounts?

mild thunder
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i started on ps4, had a few accounts i played between bans

teal hedge
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That's fair

torpid roost
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Smurfs and playing with friends, bans, lel

mild thunder
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then started on one pc account and moved to another

teal hedge
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Oh, I also played a bunch of Bacchus

mild thunder
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bacchus was always one of my go-to hard-carry supports for ranked

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until horus dropped

worthy fern
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@thick reef they’ve literally been fine for over a decade

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Don’t feel bad for them

mild thunder
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i also played awilix support in a tournament @teal hedge keks

worthy fern
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The reward for faking a kick is the kick is faked

mild thunder
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went like 9-1 and hard carried

teal hedge
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Serquet support goes so hard

mild thunder
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awilix supp and susano mid are both so fun

teal hedge
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Tyr has sadly been reduced to support only

mild thunder
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i also used to rock some artio jungle back in US ranked

teal hedge
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Used to go bruiser with him, but they killed bruiser

mild thunder
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yea the item changes they've made over the last season is wack

torpid roost
mild thunder
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removing almost all flat pen
removing hybrid items
removing bridge items like old glad shield/berserkers

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weird

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i dont like

teal hedge
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Did they remove void shield?

shy aurora
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Anyone know where the shadowflame table is located? Azure

mild thunder
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ye

torpid roost
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Teach them to have CC creep keks

mild thunder
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void and shifters were so good in jungle man

teal hedge
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Without my void shield, I am nothing

mild thunder
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i kinda like that it forces some jungle picks into being hard-carries

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like, you pretty much always go crit on serqet and ne zha now

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because you have to oneshot the enemy team

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but i also lost my nemesis solo because the items that were good either suck or are gone now

teal hedge
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Real

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I miss the tabi:s

mild thunder
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yea removing boots was wack

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boots rush thana in the jungle was so fun lol

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should i try and get every god to diamond @teal hedge ?

spice hornet
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Should I gem all strength or armor pen? Plz n Ty

mild thunder
urban skiff
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rate my dumbassery

teal hedge
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If you enjoy suffering, sure¨'

mild thunder
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i'll just start with assassins probably

warm portal
clear quiver
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whats the best craftable statuette for fury warr?

urban skiff
vapid tartan
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is it ever worth dropping unhinged into non pet classes? like would we want it in a melee cleave since cant control who its going on?

teal hedge
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Or actually, I think I get 150 ping in Australia?

mild thunder
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will do

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do you still have it installed?

teal hedge
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I can install it real quick

mild thunder
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i'll probs hit you up this week sometime

teal hedge
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Fo sho fo sho

worthy fern
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What game you guys talking about

warm portal
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Smite

worthy fern
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Ah

wary heart
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another week locks are unnerfed

latent ermine
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is vers crit best for pvp?

wary heart
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depends on your spec my dude

latent ermine
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arms

wary heart
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versa mast for fury versa haste for arms

latent ermine
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thanks

stark reef
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It’s bad, they’re just lucky, trust me bro.

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Actually, rn it’s 2/5, one guy dropped anni but rank 1 is anni/onslaught

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But you can always listen to people that don’t even play the game instead

stark reef
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Like @mild thunder who repeatedly types onslaught/annihilator is a bad combo

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Dude doesn’t play the game, never reached glad, doesn’t like fury and is currently 280 rated solo

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Aka. he’s the expert

lyric violet
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damn we doin this again

urban skiff
urban skiff
vapid tartan
spice hornet
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Damnnn @mild thunder you just gonna let @stark reef call you out like dat

stark reef
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I don’t mind people theorycrafting, that’s fun and even if it’s a hot take, try it out see how it plays, keep the good.

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But to constantly repeat random bullshit that is just plainly false after spending half a night crying for this channel to get someone to “moderate the culture.”

quasi lotus
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Bring back bench checking

teal hedge
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Wuz dat

quasi lotus
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Post bench press max or your opinion is invalid

teal hedge
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Oh ait, just started lifting, repping 40/45 kg rn

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Hit a 100 kg deadlift the other day as well

quasi lotus
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Ayyy my man

teal hedge
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Though I used to be stronger, left da gym for 2 years

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Used to rep 50/55 on da bench

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But I'm taller now as well, so I'd hoped my strength would at least sort of remain

stark reef
teal hedge
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(I went from 6'3 to 6'4)

urban skiff
wispy cedar
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Bevan has sex with dogs

lyric violet
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If your fico score isnt 700+ dont @ me

stark reef
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I have a 3.5 plate ass to grass squat, 4 plate deadlift and 10 dead hang pull ups but I don’t bench

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Haven’t trained chest in 4 years, still strongest body part

urban skiff
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i miss regular squat. 155kg zercher squat and 195 DL w. neoprene belt, no shoes and wonky floors.

teal hedge
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Rioght?

urban skiff
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mm

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Do I look murican?

quasi lotus
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Post arm length manlet

urban skiff
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my deadlift is fucked after working as a mechanic for 4 years

fierce elm
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Manlet arms

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Bev has the opposite issue

lyric violet
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got that 68 inch reach 😢

fierce elm
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if you cant bench 3pl8s+ you will reach it eventually stay wholesome bros

urban skiff
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i respect people struggling with 40kg bench more than people doing 140 easy

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the important thing is doing something you enjoy and feeling good

fierce elm
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wack

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FEEL BAD ALL THAT MATTERS IS THE WEIGHT

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If you dont feel like SHIT constantly its too light

stark reef
teal hedge
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have the arms nerfs went live yet?

teal hedge
frail badge
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so far as fury in solo q, it feels like more often then not for my second burst , it one shots the target since there sometimes low hp by then

urban skiff
teal hedge
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I'm giving you a complient, I'm calling you reasonable.

urban skiff
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ah

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autoattacks cannot miss while enraged, probably why I'm reasonable

frail badge
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is it worth trying to do the sparks of life quest? feels like a waste of time

urban skiff
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I use spark offhand and would grab bracer / shoulder as well

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for fury

frail badge
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yeah thats what i was planning, but the quest to get 100 sparks feels horrible and painfull

urban skiff
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  1. join sparks groups on reset day, can get it done in 15 minutes if lucky
  2. treasures in the zone drops 5 each
  3. rares drop 8 each
  4. wpvp quests drop 25 per completion
  5. malicia's care package / wpvp chest drops 15ish
elfin surge
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man fuck spark quest

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i hate doing that shit

urban skiff
elfin surge
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thats kap

lucid walrus
uneven turret
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mud when is warrior guide coming

pine tiger
elfin surge
pine tiger
high star
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anyone got a TLDR for all this crafting bs

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just started playing this season today

urban skiff
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what's your exact question?

wicked bluff
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yo no one play war fury on pvp ?

urban skiff
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people like arms more

wicked bluff
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so it's playable

urban skiff
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absolutey

high star
wicked bluff
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okok ty

urban skiff
# high star what are these shadowflame crests and trophy of conquest good for, should I be k...

conq tokens raise ilvl of a crafted piece to 450 in pvp. It's essential in crafting pvp gear. You get two free tokens, additional tokens costs conquest points at a rate of 1:1 with the pieces they match (875 for chest/hat/legs) so they're essentially two free conq level pieces.

In addition to conq or honor tokens you need a shadowflame spark. We get one at a rate of 1 every 2 weeks (1 fragment per week, 2 fragments per spark). Completing the questline that awards it, awards a full spark when you get your first fragment.
Guaranteed source of fragments: weekly pvp quest from malicia, this week epic bgs and rbgs.

TLDR: You'll want to complete the questline for spark asap on any toon, you'll get a quest for two tokens with the first spark. The crafted pvp boots are strong I think, so you can safely craft that first.

Shadowflame crests and stuff are for upgrading pve pieces.

high star
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ok so shadowflame crests garbage but keep the 450 craft things

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roger tyvm

urban skiff
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If you have excess sparks but can't spare the conq points to buy the tokens, you can buy similar honor tokens to craft honor pieces. One good reason to do that is to stack a favorable stat on your rings, since you can have honor ring + honor crafted ring with same secondary stats. Likewise conq ring + conq crafted ring.

high star
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notice lots of the boys wearing molten helm

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that the first craft i should slam?

urban skiff
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Infurious boots first, you get like 500+ strength every 30 seconds when you stormbolt / shockwave / intimidating shout

high star
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ive got last seasons bis

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so i got dem boots already unless theres a new set

urban skiff
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people are going molten second because it's a free conq token and we know hat will be the worst tier slot.

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You still need to spend the new sparks to recraft boots to 450

runic wharf
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thats only if you're arms right, since non-tier conq helm is vers mast

urban skiff
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(for fury)

urban skiff
runic wharf
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ah yea tru

high star
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tyvm protean

urban skiff
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No reason to buy the conq helmet when you can craft it for "free"

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We're 8 days away from getting our 3rd crafted piece so I don't think it really matters. Especially since it's season start.

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like 22 days until we get catalyst.

urban skiff
# high star tyvm protean

Tossing final advice in case you're like me and missed this: reach 1600 rating in any rated bracket and you get a token that can be traded in for any tier piece.

high star
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oooo that only works the first time right

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like I cant get one in each bracket XD

urban skiff
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yep

high star
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word no other rating rewards?

urban skiff
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Just the usual i think

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I'm ultra casual hardstuck 1600 player so I don't notice when they add the cool stuff

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Anyways I hope that's enough to get you started on the crafting nightmare.

urban skiff
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I haven't tried but I assume so. Makes no sense to drop pve tier in pvp

runic wharf
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yea the vendor sells both tho make sure to pick the pvp one

spring ibex
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How important is it to take shattering throw? It's got game winning potential vs basically only ret and arc/fire mage but it really screws with the builds I want to play. Playing at 2k rn. Shuffle.

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I've done it thus far but I night quit doing it

sage raptor
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So true

worthy fern
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@spring ibex I think most ppl don’t take it

stark reef
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@spring ibex can’t recommend it - cast too long and dam too low - I usually just swap off

high star
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in shuffle i dont usually play just because your teammate is just going to swap when they see it

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they aren't really going to cover your shatter and try to force kill but i can see playing it in melee cleave vs wizards lol

dark sparrow
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Man capping vault is so rough right now. Only had 1 day to play this week so got to cap my 2 warrs but my lock is 0/3 critcake

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Is there any catchup for the shadowflame sparks? Got 1 on main warr but didn’t get it for my other one

uneven turret
dark sparrow
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As fury prob the blue silken lining or smth, gives 240 ish mastery when above 90% hp

stark reef
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It says from pvp wins but def not from shuffle

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But yeah, technically there is, someone said they got it after 12 M+ dungeons and a heroic raid clear

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I also don’t know how far behind you have to be - not sure if half a shard counts

woeful solstice
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yea the grind is a bit rougher

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i cant keep up currently with irl + multiple warriors

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not gonna go dummy hard on pvp until conq cap is gone i think

uneven turret
stark reef
uneven turret
stark reef
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I have 3 shards, aka 1.5 sparks

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WoW

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I played 200 rounds easily this week

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Nada

uneven turret
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hmm they said its high chance

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i am i haven't even used it yet, not sure what to make with the 2nd spark

stark reef
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^ the guy that wrote the post

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I’ll make frostfire legguards of preparation with it - yolo

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Everything looks bad

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Pls do not do that - nobody actually good made those legs. But seeing actually good warriors make random stuff that’s deeply mid gives me the green light to experiment

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Rank 2 made the spore cloak

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🤣

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Smexxin and rank 1 made the silken blue lining helm

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Magnus running a helm that puts random dots on random targets and still only nets 3% total dam not even on prio target

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It’s all shit

woeful solstice
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yeah theres no clear winner for 2nd craft

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pick what sounds fun

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im just gonna put a shadowflame patch on a helmet or something later in the season

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imo ur better off crafting another mast/vers ring

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for the spark

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rather than concering yourself with some mediocre embel

stark reef
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Yeah, I think that’s the best from a consistency standpoint

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1-2% dam, 450 ilvl, mastery, verse

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The safest option for sure

uneven turret
uneven turret
stark reef
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Yeah, helm with shadowflame patch

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Gives you at least something every game in every situation

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So even if one emblem might be better in a specific scenario this is definitely the most consistent

uneven turret
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do u know if the patch rank matters?

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rank 3 cost alot more than rank 2

stark reef
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No, I don’t know

worthy fern
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We’ve been using helm this whole first season why change from that

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It was decent

tawny brook
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Primal helm for fury right

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N

lean burrow
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I

mild thunder
lean burrow
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sometimes I give wrong advice because I wawnt someone to correct me and say the right answer

mild thunder
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And yea I don’t really play pvp atm because it’s poop

twilit flax
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man queue times are so ruff

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not even solo shuffle but everything

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makes me unsubb every time

lean burrow
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haven't paid for sub since xpac launched gladge

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still got 5 months with tokens gladge

tawny brook
tawny brook
twilit flax
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the money is not the problem,. but also the problem bcs the more time in quesus means i make less money

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its about time

fresh valve
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how much an hour of your time worth?

twilit flax
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pve is actually good this expansion

twilit flax
fresh valve
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im saying metaphorically

twilit flax
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tho i did for a long time playing wow

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and it would cost me proper sleep so my health sufferred

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and u eat bad food

twilit flax
tawny brook
twilit flax
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realistically it is my fault tho for not trying to make long term friends on wow so i always have someone to play with

tawny brook
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Raoul could I get you to jump off a 10ft drop for $20

twilit flax
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people always quit too . all the people i played with in Cata and Mists are gone

fresh valve
tawny brook
fresh valve
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I forgot u were anti-sex

tawny brook
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No it just doesnt invade every thought and conversation

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I sucked your dad off

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With my ass

fresh valve
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bruh

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lol

twilit flax
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shoudlnt talk about sex directly

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always subtly play around it , makes it mysterious

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when ur around women

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otherwise it comes off cringy

mild thunder
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Yep, this channel totally doesn’t need extra moderation or a Stormforged or anytbing @spice hornet gladge

tawny brook
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I hate sex talk. Hopefully my only sexual comment ends in a ban

fresh valve
twilit flax
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brro i thought gay dudes wer e all about the sex thats ike all that do

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make butt jokes and go at it lol

mild thunder
twilit flax
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and make feminist comments

fresh valve
twilit flax
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xDDDD

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tell your dad to be ware of the cabbage man

tawny brook
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Are you in the hunter channel badguy?

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My most recent post is about cabbage rolls is why Im wondering

twilit flax
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i use to be but never posted in it

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i remember that one being really low key

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oh no

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i just call ass cabbage cause it sounds better than cake

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when talking about meme stuff

tawny brook
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I was like 🤔

twilit flax
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caggabe is lit

tawny brook
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Underrated big time

lean burrow
tawny brook
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From a basketball rim to the floor

vapid tartan
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Can you get nosebleed from smoking and is that bad

tawny brook
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1 story

vapid tartan
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My shit is dripping mid ss idk if I should play it out

fresh valve
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must be good weed

vapid tartan
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Nah nicotine

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Damn round start

fresh valve
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sounds like u need to smoke more cigs

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my vape broke so I settled for gum

vapid tartan
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Won it bois okayge

vapid tartan
fresh valve
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nah I was pleasantly surprised

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good amount of nic

vapid tartan
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I got a novo the pods are so shit they start leaking after a few weeks

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should probably get something better

spice hornet
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PvP players can get fucked I mean the PvP channel isn’t unique enough to get a SF. Sorry bro

fresh valve
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I think its good the amount of 4chan folk we got in here

stark reef
# mild thunder As does Mud As does anyone with a brain If I say it, and I’m wrong, say somethin...

That’s fair.

Well, I think the choice clearly doesn’t translate to a difference in rating in shuffle since you see a large variety of builds at the top (probably also because the season is so young.)

I think odyns fury is great in 2s and 3s (I don’t play those and I know Mud exclusively does) because that ability can cleave and create a lot of pressure just from that button.

I think Onslaught is great for single target dps - it helps to smooth out the rotation and creates value through additional reck, more rampage, etc. - great for training a “kill target” in shuffle.

I think Annihilators biggest plus in its current state is that it reliably procs Battle Trance.

Both, damage and rage from Annihilator are otherwise negligible as you can drop it to take full Odyns + full Onslaught. Biggest loss in that case is the massive amount of extra healing.

Bottom line is I don’t think any of these combos are particularly bad. But I am also not surprised to see that people that play with and against full teams prefer an option that allows you do get a lot out of hitting more than 1 target or even running raging blow as spammable - something that will be very difficult to pull of in shuffle where people spend the first 2 rounds to see who’s the lobby piñata.

fresh valve
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u play shuffle shut up

stark reef
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3s is more inflated than shuffle atm keks

fresh valve
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rlly?

night condor
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Whats recommended slot to craft with second spark for arms?

undone pumice
stark reef
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Yeah, not a single war in shuffle has hit elite yet

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None

tawny brook
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Shuffle is the only real pvp mode, everyone in 3s and 2s got carried

undone pumice
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yea thwy grinding 3sbro

stark reef
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There are multi-rank 1s at 1800

tawny brook
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Shuffle is the only measure of individual performance

fresh valve
vapid tartan
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Do y’all see 3s becoming considered party queue in dota and lol with solo queue being the primary ranked mode in the future?

fresh valve
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plus you can get carried in shuffle too lol

stark reef
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You don’t have to play it but to say it’s easier is just disingenuous looking at the numbers

vapid tartan
fresh valve
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you either carry or get carried in shuffle

tawny brook
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Get carried by my randomized teams

stark reef
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Being able to consistently go 4/2 vs very good players is the only way to crack 2k

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And by very good I mean people that are gladiator in 3s since 3 expacs every season

vapid tartan
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I mean tbf the skill cap in 3s is higher than ss

stark reef
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Skill ceiling, absolutely

vapid tartan
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Ss needs a better mentality IMO tho

stark reef
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Because it involves 3 people

vapid tartan
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I guess that’s a different skill

stark reef
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There are things you just cannot do without comfort & comms

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So it opens the door for more strategies

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But to climb in shuffle rn is not easier than 3s if you’re stricly looking at the rating number

tawny brook
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There is a reason ss is the most popular

vapid tartan
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Solo queue is the modern gamemode

stark reef
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If you just look at the game from the outside obviously shuffle looks like a fiesta but these are people that have never played together, are not on voice, etc, so you have to take that into account when evaluating their gameplay compared to 3s

vapid tartan
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Every healthy competitive game has ranked solo queue as its main ranked mode at this point

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I wonder why they nerfed shuffle honor/conq gains instead of buffing the 3s daily bonus

gray umbra
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This chat reminds me of all the players I inspect that are 2.1k+ in SS but hard stuck 1.5-1.6k in 2s/3s with hundreds of games played

spice hornet
stark reef
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I think the skill sets are also vastly different - of course great pvpers excel in either but 3s you get to practice and refine with a team and execute a strategy.

Shuffle you are forced to read the room very quick and adapt and identify win conditions on the fly.

gray umbra
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Ranked party q fuckin a. I could totally see it though

stark reef
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I mean they got glad in 3s, didn’t they?

fresh valve
gray umbra
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Stuck In what

stark reef
fresh valve
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I mean realistically whats the point of doin shuffle

vapid tartan
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He has a 60% winrate in shuffle

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That’s not stuck

fresh valve
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all u get is a flag

gray umbra
stark reef
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People like that every lobby

fresh valve
twilit flax
fresh valve
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ya fuck that lol

twilit flax
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shuffle is fun overall, thats why u should do it

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its the queue times that make it miserable

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yeah fuck 30 min queues

gray umbra
#

Sometimes I'll q ss just cause I'm feeling lazy and just want a quick sesh without comms real quick, and then by the end of it I regret it so bad because I get tilted af at shitters and realize I enjoy the coordination/team play aspect more than anything

stark reef
fresh valve
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wow pvp is trash

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go play smite like gala

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or league

twilit flax
stark reef
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I would never see the kind of players in 3s that I see in shuffle daily. Because they’re in full teams and I would be stuck in lfg

fresh valve
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or any other fuckin game lololol

#

new zelda game out

gray umbra
vapid tartan
twilit flax
stark reef
twilit flax
#

but if you dont have friends its hard to find people

twilit flax
vapid tartan
#

Dota >

fresh valve
twilit flax
#

anytime you want corddinated play you just queue up and smash noobs

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no LFG

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no blizzard 30 min queues

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unless your like high gradnmaster+

vapid tartan
stark reef
# vapid tartan Yeah def some good players at 1900s still but I don’t think it’s fair to say stu...

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/game/pvp/leaderboards/shuffle/warrior/fury

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/game/pvp/leaderboards/shuffle/warrior/arms

There are plenty of insane players in the top 100 of each spec with enough games that should get them to 2.4k if it were as easy as often said here.

inner sigil
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Is fury better than arms now?

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in arena

stark reef
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No

twilit flax
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even in league tho whats the point. I actually have long time friends that play, and i thought by hitting a high rank, much higher than them i would provbe something

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but turns out they dont carre

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nobody cares

fresh valve
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tf u gonna prove in a video game lol

inner sigil
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thunder roar and skullsplitter is still top G with arms right?

vapid tartan
fresh valve
#

the only reason to do 3's is a badass mount nuthin else

twilit flax
#

that all that fat nerd energy sitting at the comp all day actually went towards something

vapid tartan
#

Considering that there’s like what maybe 10 people at most above 2400 in all specs?

twilit flax
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or at least thats what the AWC players tell themselves

fresh valve
#

awc players get paid

twilit flax
#

if they win

fresh valve
#

if u aint makin money playin a game ur skill dont matter

stark reef
twilit flax
#

any high rated player for that matter

gray umbra
#

That's relative

twilit flax
#

i shouldnt have said awc

inner sigil
#

so is skullsplitter build for arms still the best?

gray umbra
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Yes

twilit flax
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even still awc playes dont get paid much

#

all that time could be spent bulding a business

inner sigil
twilit flax
#

making x500 that money

fresh valve
#

poe pays more than wow lol

gray umbra
#

No

twilit flax
#

and also getting chicks

gray umbra
#

Vers/haste with a bit of mastery if u want

inner sigil
#

sweet

twilit flax
#

money and chicks > wow

fresh valve
#

bro nobody even watches wow esports

vapid tartan
twilit flax
#

u could say that about any video game yeah

#

thats why my go to game is always assassins creed

#

low commitment

fresh valve
#

ew

gray umbra
#

I don't think anyone here plays video games to make money

twilit flax
#

can pick it up and have fun whenever i want

fresh valve
#

ass ass ins creed

twilit flax
#

put it down, go outside live life and forget about it

fresh valve
#

way better single player games out there

vapid tartan
# twilit flax what u mean ?

No you could find an example like that for literally anything is what I mean, I could say that instead of typing in a discord you could be thinking of new business ideas or some shit

twilit flax
#

yeah cause running around in a ancient civilization ruthless killing people like a bad ass warrior is ass right

inner sigil
#

whats fury best build

twilit flax
#

assassins creed is a legacy bro

fresh valve
twilit flax
#

a collection of art works

stark reef
# twilit flax nobody cares

Very important lesson about gaming - unless it pays the bills the only price is having fun. If you don’t, re-evaluate.

fresh valve
#

Lost Judgment's a pretty good game

twilit flax
#

for instance, wow is 100/100 for me right when i wake uip and have my coffee

twilit flax
#

once the coffee wears off , dropps by at least 15

#

then its an 8.5

fresh valve
#

Resident evil 4 remake was another good new game that came out

twilit flax
#

and then u get ina long que time

#

and ur like wait

#

this is a 5.5

gray umbra
#

Sounds like you just need adderall

twilit flax
mild thunder
# stark reef That’s fair. Well, I think the choice clearly doesn’t translate to a differenc...

At this point in a season especially, you can probably make most builds work. Especially if you're a mechanically good player.
The reason OF is generally better is because it works alongside the Avatar choice node that non-AM builds always take. It's not just about its damage, it's about it opening up your small burst window... onslaught just doesnt provide as much as odyns fury does when that's taken into account. It also doesn't provide anywhere near as much value as it does for RB-focused builds because of the Slaughtering Strikes interaction. I guess I disagree that the literal 2 button spec needs its' rotation to be smoothed out, but I can see an argument for the burst of rage-gen during reck windows. Outside of that, it provides virtually nothing. If you want more damage, don't play Annihilator, because that was never the point of the build.

fresh valve
twilit flax
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i took it for a year and half

#

never again

sharp meteor
#

Oh?

gray umbra
#

Kekw

mild thunder
fresh valve
#

adderall and I go back to 6th grade

#

no

#

5th

twilit flax
#

dam u guys are all on adderall

#

its all starting to make sense now

#

its a nice high for a few hourrs but once that wears off you feel like a zombie

tawny brook
twilit flax
#

and it defintly doesnt help with wwo

#

makes ur hands jittery

mild thunder
fresh valve
#

sex sex sex

gray umbra
#

Not everyone's brain chemistry is the same my fren

tawny brook
sharp meteor
fresh valve
#

adderall makes me horny so buster might be onto something

tawny brook
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Gala needs his midol

twilit flax
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adderall gave me a porn addiction it was monstrous

fresh valve
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LOL

mild thunder
gray umbra
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Sounds right

twilit flax
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i could tell you stories u wouldnt even belive me

gray umbra
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Oh I would

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Trust me

fresh valve
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whats ur max bro

twilit flax
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15 hours

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lmfao

fresh valve
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jesus

gray umbra
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How many nutz

fresh valve
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XD

obsidian loom
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fury feels like ass wtf

tawny brook
twilit flax
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none thats the whole point

fresh valve
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stop guys

obsidian loom
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what's the default build

gray umbra
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Did you measure the projectory(

twilit flax
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ur like half soft

fresh valve
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we're scaring buster

twilit flax
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thats why its so addictive u just keep edging

mild thunder
vapid tartan
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Bro wtf

mild thunder
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but keep trying to "trigger the libs"... you're defs not stuck in 2016

gray umbra
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Edging and jelqing bby

obsidian loom
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tf are you nerds arguing about

tawny brook
vapid tartan
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Jerking off and adderall apparently

gray umbra
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Meth and mawtuebation

twilit flax
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when you take enough adderall it basically mimics meth sorta

fresh valve
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Buster is def a 4chaner

gray umbra
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"Mimics" lol they're the same thing, practically

twilit flax
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i mean if you take a low dose everryday , and u stick to that does like maybe 20 mg XR,

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thats better

mild thunder
twilit flax
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but anything more you will see sides

mild thunder
vapid tartan
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Adderall is literally meth

gray umbra
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I promise you 90mg+ adderall is =/= .01mg meth

obsidian loom
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tldr stop taking meds, lift, eat healthy wtf happened to yall

fresh valve
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so if adderall and meth are the same can I drive on meth?

tawny brook
fresh valve
twilit flax
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meth incapacitates you tho adderall doesnt do that

gray umbra
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100%

twilit flax
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but yeah its meth

vapid tartan
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Are they not almost the same in chemical structure?

mild thunder
fresh valve
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no

gray umbra
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Meth in high doses does

vapid tartan
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I’m not scientist tho so could be wronf

twilit flax
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addderall is a mix of methapmthemines and ampthetamines

tawny brook
fresh valve
gray umbra
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Just like adderall in high does incapacitates

twilit flax
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Its funny cause some guy warned me about it before and he had a very similar personality to me

vapid tartan
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Shit does make you feel awful tho