its the decades of affection for the blue party
#pvp
bright stream
visual river
That’s too big brain
teal hedge
I used to have some really cool animals
thick reef
I'm dropping it wherever I am
mild thunder
australian tv shows suck fucking ass lmao
but we make good movies
the green knight and the stranger are two pretty recent aus films
both were really good
teal hedge
Can you fish in Australia?
bright stream
Can you fish in Australia?
need a license but its very cheap
teal hedge
License in Sweden costs an arm & a leg
tulip trail
what weapon enchant should i go for as arms?
tulip trail
why tho
teal hedge
Expensive
mild thunder
yessir
visual river
It’s like 8k right now for gold but only 2k for bronze and silver (sophic)
teal hedge
Any way to turn on an outline for your own character?
whole chasm
used to be an option in interface but i havent found it since the update
dense cove
Do we get to refund our set piece that we bought for Draconic Mark of mastery after reset? (Bought pve piece by accident)
visual river
Sorry for your loss
whole chasm
I cannot feel my tongue
you’re gonna develop allergy at this rate
teal hedge
So man ay peanitsd....
teal hedge
Dry; the nuts proved to have been far too strong
idle falcon
Alright guys this is the real question
Last season elite set or this season elite set?
whole chasm
s1
idle falcon
S1 you look like a moving volcano
whole chasm
s2 set is cool but imo the bright red with the gold is too much
a different shade wouldve made it 10x better
also dont know why all classes got different colors when s1 was all themed the same
i love hunter elite color
looks like i made gear from Raz’ skin
idle falcon
whole chasm
priest elite also FUCKS
idle falcon
priest elite also FUCKS
You want to fuck, what?
whole chasm
i love solo content ass warr
even if hunter is 10x easier cause pet tank, warrior does the job at x2 faster rate
i love it
idle falcon
Yes <3
tawny elm
whole chasm
ye
idle falcon
Honestly after Playing a warrior when i try to lvl a new class this is all i see
whole chasm
i wanna level a lock or spriest so bad
but at the same time im like, ooh warrior, ooh hunter
idle falcon
Yeah
I either play BM hunter or fury warrior
Anything else and im bored AF
Although i was going to lvl a mage when new patch drops
New rework
Or talent tree changes to be exact
whole chasm
i have a druid aswell, and they are so fucking unbalanced right now, but i somehow still dont wanna play it that much
idle falcon
Druid as class fantasy i love them
But never got into the groove of playing them
Old classic feral was cool though
When auto-attack dmg was actually useful
whole chasm
boomie is fun in pve, but pve isnt the same as it used to be
theres just so much to catch up on
idle falcon
Honestly i would play classic but the thing is it's so slow
idle falcon
If leveling was faster i'de prolly quit retail (not really but still)
idle falcon
Tbc was chad
I leveled in tbc a hunter
Wotlk isn't as good as tbc
Wotlk every class is good
Tbc every class unique
Also enh shammy was good tbc but in wotlk not >_<
whole chasm
enh sham is the only S tier in clsssic right now wym
idle falcon
Waiting for legion classic 👀
whole chasm
the rest good ones are like a+
idle falcon
enh sham is the only S tier in clsssic right now wym
No, warrior is s-tier
Resto is is s-tier healer
In classic classic
But wotlk idk
whole chasm
im talking about wotlk ye
idle falcon
Ah idk then
whole chasm
enh sits alone at the top
idle falcon
My friend told me enh sucks ass in wotlk
Yo juice lets lvl together in classic
Every once in a while its fun
whole chasm
bro i dont have time for it. i have a 73 rogue but i gave up
whole chasm
took me a week to get those 3 levels after the free boost
idle falcon
Ill prolly get bored
whole chasm
i can level two chars from 1-70 in a week in retail kek
honestly, i hope they dont launch cata classic
i hope they either feed new content to wotlk or go a different path where neltharion isnt corrupted
idle falcon
They should jump and go to MoP
And every warrior would go classic and relive second wind
XD
worthy fern
Classic pvp is always worse it’s just nostalgia that makes people think it’s better
Maybe legion is the point where it would feel better
idle falcon
I heard arms was op then
worthy fern
First iteration of m+ never been better
worthy fern
Every iteration of arms since legion has just been pale imitations of it
Like half our talent tree currently is legion shit
worthy fern
Yea prob was for pvp
whole chasm
took a break after wod s1
teal hedge
Lightning is here
whole chasm
came back in df
worthy fern
Pve it just happened naturally
teal hedge
Time to shut computer off
worthy fern
Executioners precision being a buff on self versus debuff on target is just such a small but big change
Cause you can snipe execute shit for buffs
worthy fern
Wod had good raids and zones
stark eagle
so whats the play when up against a balance druid? they seem to pump outrageous numbers
dark sparrow
Bro WoD feral with Claws of Shirvallah was so fkn fun
idle falcon
Omw home to fuck up some bitches
dark sparrow
Omw home to fuck up some bitches
lean burrow
this is dope af
you are sick
wary heart
no u
lean burrow
wary heart
imagine having a busted mog
showing up in arena
getting laughed out of the building
lean burrow
best 3 mogs this season
rest is meh
the pally mog is like questing set
from ff14 or something
only thing worse is monk set
actually no, evoker is worse
whole chasm
hunter too
dark sparrow
best 3 mogs this season
bro elite lock set is fire
south kestrel
Priest tho
teal cedar
infurious helm/boots still the way to go on trophy of conquest use?
elfin valve
priest elite also FUCKS
priest elites are usually pretty solid yea
whole chasm
priest elites are usually pretty solid yea
female orc and nelf looks so good with it
makes me wanna level up one, but the bloated spells seems so ugh to learn
elfin valve
infurious helm/boots still the way to go on trophy of conquest use?
someone told me boots safe, wait 2nd
teal cedar
someone told me boots safe, wait 2nd
fair enough, only have 1 spark anyways 🙂
runic wharf
Hello darkness my old friend...
wary heart
nerfs for arms are crazy balancing, there's so many busted wizards
urban skiff
i wonder how bad warr's going to feel with nerfed sharpen
about the same for the cultured apes
dark sparrow
Mods don't look at this channel, they look at us as the unhinged crowd we are
urban skiff
does it make you want to rampage?
dawn niche
Im new here hello
craggy igloo
dawn niche
I was going to ask... is it haste vers for fury or vers mastery? seems like alot of youtubers are doing mastery. Just wanted to check in with your guys
dark sparrow
I was going to ask... is it haste vers for fury or vers mastery? seems like alot...
Most people are going mastery right now
dark sparrow
not rlly any cap, just slight dr's but tbh just stack full mastery and don't even think about it
get haste on pieces where you can't get mastery
teal hedge
Thunder is over
dawn niche
you can get everything on anything now
teal hedge
I return
dawn niche
hell i can make haste mastery
dark sparrow
for crafted sure, but pvp gear you only have 2 choices per slot
dawn niche
what do you mean two choices?
south kestrel
Wat
urban skiff
for crafted sure, but pvp gear you only have 2 choices per slot
not 100% true
dark sparrow
Imagine going mastery
i'd rather not get carpeltunnel with full haste fury lmao
dawn niche
You can literally turn all crafted gear into pvp gear now
teal hedge
funny
dawn niche
of course itll take 1 piece every two weeks but hey its a THING still
So min-maxing is going to be brutal by the end of this patch.
dark sparrow
just copy paste the awc players loadout from TR, done
teal hedge
But yeah, I'm sticking wit arms
dawn niche
I mean what happened to make fury go haste to mastery?
teal hedge
Too many Fury-Andies nowadays
urban skiff
tbh i'm considering dropping a bit of haste and mastery to take crit from 5 to 10%. make dam a bit less predictable outside cds
teal hedge
Which spec you rollin?
urban skiff
fury always
teal hedge
Hmm....
whole chasm
full mastery big dam
elfin surge
i got blocked by a furry
teal hedge
Wait why
elfin surge
😎
dark sparrow
saw maldiva arguing with him
is this still about the maldiva trans stuff?
elfin surge
not rly
dark sparrow
@elfin surge you just project to much masculin & negative energy playing warrior in a video game
elfin surge
he was accusing maldiva of rmt
elfin surge
<@269709440146604032> you just project to much masculin & negative energy playin...
deal with it
dark sparrow
imagine arguing with someone about RMT. yes they did it, no they won't openly say so unless
they really cba
green anchor
Relational Mindfulness Training
teal hedge
What's rmt
green anchor
When you sell boosts and shit like that for real money
elfin surge
Real money trading
@green anchor 👀
teal hedge
Oh my god do finnish people hate swedish people?
green anchor
NO
green anchor
Oh my god do finnish people hate swedish people?
some probably do
teal hedge
Been seeing a lot of it on social medias.
No idea why, Sweden LOVES Finland
Stupid finns cannot take an L for once in their lives.
kindred viper
You mean 2 Ls
green anchor
pvp moment
kindred viper
Beat them in eurovision and last night in hockey 🙂
teal hedge
Oh yeah, hockey as well lmao
Yeah, been seeing a lot of bitter Finns
Not fun at all
dawn niche
Why do people care about these things so much my god
kindred viper
they played their eurovision song before the penalties and hyped the shit out of the crowd
teal hedge
Just seen a lot of hate directed towards Sweden over-all, actually
kindred viper
then they lost 😄
dawn niche
These guys riot when a soccer team loses
lean burrow
that gif was giga cringe
kindred viper
stoic culture? swedens culture is moist fucking bread culture not stoic
teal hedge
It's more that we do not talk to each other
And that we do not feed guests.
Really ticked some people off.
kindred viper
yeah that's just ordinary antisocial behavior of not knowing ppl
who doesn't feed their guests wut
teal hedge
Well, I come from a worker's family
And when time for food came around, the guests usually just sat and waited in another room.
kindred viper
😐
awkward, i grew up in sthlm and every time it was dinner wether at my house or at a friend, everyone ate
like why not
kindred viper
qpop
teal hedge
But yeah, just a thing we did, no biggue.
teal hedge
🙏
dawn niche
do yall think ashkandur in pvp as an offhand for fury would be any good?
or better to just go a conquest one
actually with goign full mastery i guess it would be pointless
dawn niche
its 3 hours long this reset
teal hedge
Oh my god I figured it out
I found out why so many finns were triggered on twitter and spewing hate
stark reef
teal hedge
It's because one of our tabloids referred to Finland as "östra rikshalvan" or, "the eastern part of our kingdom"
Lmao
It's literally just slang for Finland
Wanna look at slang? Look at what the finns call us
stark reef
@elfin surge you’re sold on the shadow flame enchant?
elfin surge
<@269709440146604032> you’re sold on the shadow flame enchant?
this early in the season and on fury, yea they are the best
stark reef
Kk, gonna grab those when servers go up 
teal hedge
This shit is actually frying my braincells
lean burrow
do yall think ashkandur in pvp as an offhand for fury would be any good?
bis in pvp
as transmog
dawn niche
rapid shore
fuck sweden :D
kindred viper
lmao ignite is a joke
teal hedge
I know, just hate seeing Sweden get canceled :P
rapid shore
:(
muted surge
If you like swedes or fins, you are a racist
kindred viper
swedens not getting cancelled
muted surge
I mean the fish part
subtle imp
I should've joined this discord ages ago, the discourse is fantastic
teal hedge
Yeah, but still, there have been like three separate media-campaigns against Sweden this last year.
First swedengate, then when Russia tried to paint our famous people as nazis and now finnish nationalists pushing accusations of colonialism :P
kindred viper
lol i point out that a fire mage doing 2.5m dmg with ignite being 1m is kinda weird and the mage goes "it's fine it's caster meta"
teal hedge
I mean, yeah, we colonised Finland, but that was a thousand years ago
teal hedge
We very much did.
kindred viper
we conquered it
teal hedge
I mean. You can say that?
But we did it with intent of making Finland christian
More or less, a crusade.
rapid shore
this is very much pvp related :D
teal hedge
benis :D
subtle imp
One could argue that crusaders were fury warriors
rapid shore
lul
teal hedge
I mean, pvp chat is always like this
kindred viper
One could argue that crusaders were fury warriors
wouldn't the be ret pallys?
teal hedge
Killing time in queque by discussing stuff
subtle imp
wouldn't the be ret pallys?
no because holy light doesn't exist
and they are angry about it
hence fury
rapid shore
bcos of crusade i have to study swedish in a school for 3 years.
kindred viper
what do you mean, are you a non believer?
rapid shore
:D
kindred viper
oh god
subtle imp
Mercy, please!
kindred viper
pls delete gif
teal hedge
Yeah, bhaving to study swedish is pretty cringe
kindred viper
my eyes
teal hedge
No idea why you still have to do that :D
subtle imp
I mean, knowing multiple languages is pretty poggers
teal hedge
Yeah
rapid shore
i know very basics
kindred viper
eh swedish-finnish relations have always been close and are at an all time high since WW2 atm
teal hedge
But we don't have to learn finnish :P
kindred viper
no but we would if finland had conquered us in the 13th century
subtle imp
But we don't have to learn finnish :P
That's because the course would never get finnished
I'll escort myself out lads
teal hedge
Wacky way to announce that you'rea father
kindred viper
That's because the course would never get finnished
subtle imp
alas I do not have offspring
teal hedge
I mean, three of us speak the same language.
subtle imp
but I can play the part if I have to
rapid shore
But we don't have to learn finnish :P
lucky i guess. finnish is hard language
teal hedge
Yeah, I had a finnish teacher, and the grammar seems brutal.
rapid shore
we kind have 2 language in same bcos written and spoken is very diffrent
teal hedge
Quick question, are your Js soft or hard?=
Like, in the name Joakim
Is it Ioakim or Djoakim?
rapid shore
dj
teal hedge
REally?
rapid shore
y
rapid shore
maybe, i dont know. with dj seems better for me atleast
teal hedge
Yeah
rapid shore
wtf lol
rapid shore
musta kissa..
kindred viper
no! also ei saa peittää
teal hedge
Ah
rapid shore
no! also ei saa peittää
LOL
kindred viper
älä ammu
rapid shore
:D
rapid shore
lost me there
teal hedge
Beautiful word
rapid shore
:D
teal hedge
It's on every hamburger-dressing bottle
kindred viper
so.. hamburger dressing?
teal hedge
But finnish is very uncommon in western Sweden, of course I have many finnish neighbours, but I don't know anything about the language.
rapid shore
like mayonnaise
teal hedge
I have more ties to Norway
teal hedge
so.. hamburger dressing?
Hamburgardressing
teal hedge
Have they already nerfed arms?
kindred viper
arms nerf for EU tomorrow
idle falcon
guys i neede asnwers
kindred viper
should i get the embelished helmet as fury?
w8 a bit, no rush
idle falcon
i already have it just not shadowflame
kindred viper
yeah most ppl have it
idle falcon
ok
kindred viper
it's probably alright
at worst you'll just wait 1 week for another greater trophy and craft something else
rapid shore
whats conq cap after reset?
teal hedge
Hmmm, how do we counter the caster-heavy meta?
Because, without burst arms will really struggle against casters.
kindred viper
conq cap is probably same as last season, they start at 1350 then add 550 per week
rapid shore
oke
lyric violet
how bad you think this skull splitter nerf is gonna hit us?
seems like the ability is kind of dead now.
near delta
seems like the ability is kind of dead now.
Good lol
lyric violet
yea yea i know it was just the playstyle that was fun
vapid tartan
Fr 😦
lyric violet
different than just press MS
near delta
not really considering that was the main build rn Lol
It just felt crappy to play personally
But the damage was nice
lyric violet
it kind of does since the crit nerf
vapid tartan
I would have liked if they just made the sks and fbv nerfs, buffed bleeds and left sharpen as it is
near delta
They unnerfed rend and buffed deep wounds so the consistent damage should be a good bit higher
lyric violet
i think arms got hit the hardest by that crit change Lol
only problem is that casters are so good rn its going to be tough to do consistent damage
to make use of it
vapid tartan
If you time in your ms during Cs reck you can still hit 100k+ on your ms
subtle imp
I'm basically a support in 3s
lyric violet
but i guess we will see
urban skiff
I'm basically a support in 3s
That's what true arms is all about. I remember all of shadowlands people kept saying "arms damage is fine, nerf their utility"
It's not like they were wrong
subtle imp
I am all for being a team player, but at the end of the day I also gotta be able to put out some dam
lyric violet
they should give arms a crit modifier like ele has
urban skiff
arms confirmed next support spec along with outlaw rogue and fdk
vapid tartan
Has arms been bad for longer than a season ever?
subtle imp
literally everybody
urban skiff
Stop caring about rating in any bracket and start caring about ranking#
lyric violet
its only the second week Lol
stark reef
What does that have to do with it?
lyric violet
people are already 2200 in the first week that seems inflated no?
stark reef
Same in 2s?
lyric violet
oh you mean they are even
elfin surge
spice hornet
Had like 90%+ WL
stark reef
95% of people that are 2k in shuffle rn are glads
subtle imp
laughs in rogue
lyric violet
i see what you mean
urban skiff
95% of people that are 2k in shuffle rn are glads
I'm finally in the top 5% of something
oh wait you said 2k and not 200
elfin surge
im 0cr in shuffle
fast meteor
@elfin surge what are the chances we get bracers cape and boots for our vault? 
stark reef
Game quality in shuffle is also not bad whatsoever
spice hornet
Shit sucks
elfin surge
<@269709440146604032> what are the chances we get bracers cape and boots for our...
im getting a batllemaster adapt trinket and a crit ring
stark reef
Average round is 2min+
elfin surge
Top steamers always get weps
@ttvdjrio
lyric violet
i think servers are back up
urban skiff
I AM 2357 in shuffle
What class? No rogue is currently at exactly 2357
spice hornet
I said top streamers
spice hornet
What class? No rogue is currently at exactly 2357
Lock, I have 5 days played on it. Was free 2357
elfin surge
he got a titanforged gettikku in bfa first week
spice hornet
Wtfffff
elfin surge
yea
spice hornet
I hated bfa arms, scuffed ass dot spec
fast meteor
man my wife plays healer and she has 45 secs que i just want faster que
spice hornet
They are
subtle imp
alright servers are up
spice hornet
They are up no troll
subtle imp
lets get dogshit
lyric violet
oh i got tier helm in vault
spice hornet
Checking my lock first, superior class
spice hornet
oh i got tier helm in vault
LMAO
near delta
Ayy time to get my relentless trinket even though it's not in the game anymore
lyric violet
battle masters tier helm and haste verse chest
spice hornet
Oh it is, some specs bought tier helm tho
lyric violet
tier helm?
obv right Lol
okay you made me nervous i was like are we not using tier?
i know it was nerfed but i thought it was still considered worth
near delta
I dunno why people used their tier token first week lol
stark reef
Oh it is, some specs bought tier helm tho
What's the name of your lock?
ruby temple
is the tier helm actually what we are going for or am I good to just grab a pve piece this week lol
lyric violet
id imagine with no catalyst any tier piece rn would be solid
if you didnt spend your token you can have 2 set?
ruby temple
yeah but I also have a 421 vault peice for tier, didn't people say we aren't running tier in PVP?
lyric violet
idk i cant think for myself i need rank one players to tell me so i can mindlessly follow them zug
craggy geyser
yeah but I also have a 421 vault peice for tier, didn't people say we aren't run...
I don’t think so I think we are
ruby temple
well rip me anyways. guilds jumping straight into heroic so I gotta focus the PVE ILVL anyways I think 😿
subtle imp
I thought arms tier was complete garbage
lyric violet
lol i dont feel like i have much of a choice
ruby temple
yeah that is what people said but now all of a sudden its goat. i think fury takes set but not arms
subtle imp
wait I thought it buffed slam wtf
lyric violet
no its mortal strike and deep wounds
subtle imp
I swear to god when I checked last it was slam
lyric violet
ruby temple
but nerfed by 50% in pvp right?
subtle imp
okay so it isn't as bad as I thought
spice hornet
No tier no wep
spice hornet
What's the name of your lock?
Hahahahaha
subtle imp
would you have it any other way?
spice hornet
Hahahahahha
lyric violet
im just gonna take the helm i think
i have the token i'll get the chest and have 2set
yea?
spice hornet
5 days played on my lock
stark reef
oh, achievements are account wide?
spice hornet
You know achievements are accountwide?
stark reef
no, i have no alts
subtle imp
So did they not nerf splitter or have tooltips just not been updated yet?
lyric violet
its nerfed in pvp
subtle imp
oh is it a pvp only nerf
lyric violet
its 65% damage in pvp
daring dew
yo what comps u guys run in 3s
stark reef
5 days played on my lock
But yeah, lock looking super busted - top 100 is already 2.1k
idle falcon
holy shit fury onslaught RA build is op
urban skiff
onslaught annie is life
teal cedar
vers/mast polearm - take it (fury)?
teal hedge
Vers-haste best
mint pulsar
serious fury question from a new warrior friend; do you prioritize execute or just thirst thirst thirst -> rampage?
fast meteor
shitty trinkets and this
mint pulsar
playing anni, no onslaught
wanton sun
It could be. I got tier chest and a belt in my vault after buying tier chest with token last week and using world pvp item to upgrade belt
subtle imp
LOLL
fast yacht
Is arms or fury better in arenas and solo?
granite basin
idle falcon
fury always
teal hedge
Is arms or fury better in arenas and solo?
Before the patch drops this wednesday, Arms is objectively stronger.
stark reef
holy shit fury onslaught RA build is op
It really isn't - pins are not reflective of actual builds played on the ladder
idle falcon
every time someone says in trade chat "looking for ** crafted" i just wanna wisper them and say "how bout you look for some bitches" XD
elfin surge
It really isn't - pins are not reflective of actual builds played on the ladder
stark reef
I mean who plays raging blow?
It's 2 builds with raging blow - nobody plays that shit. You'll die.
torpid roost
every time someone says in trade chat "looking for ** crafted" i just wanna wisp...
I mean, could always do both, go to build a bitch workshop
elfin surge
well imma start testing it
idle falcon
just less survivability
stark reef
You're in dstance 30sec into the match and once peolpe figure out you have no sustain it's lights out
vapid tartan
Na servers up? Time for vault bois
velvet wagon
How we feeling about Ashkandur, worth taking from the vault for some pvp action or do we think its nerfed bad in arena?
stark reef
It's more damage but you lose massive amounts of sustain and if you can't stay in battle stance you do less damage just because of that
vapid tartan
I mean with ashkandur I was still able to go above 30% vers but that was on a human
idle falcon
wbout as fury
vapid tartan
Don’t have it on my gnome or orc
as fury you’ll def be fine as long as you got one pvp sword still
velvet wagon
@vapid tartan how you think the normal raid version maxed at 437 will hold up vs 450 weps?
vapid tartan
I tried the normal version to 437
It feels good, but I wasn’t really playing seriously
In most games saw like around 4 procs
Not sure if the dps increase worth getting crit I’ll test it out more today
Won’t be relevant anymore since we can get 450 weps anyway now no?
vapid tartan
<@774186903825809450> how you think the normal raid version maxed at 437 will ho...
I’ll check vault rq and see if I get a conq wep xd
velvet wagon
Ya you can buy 450 weps this week if you saved conq
idle falcon
question
vapid tartan
And you save your conq
velvet wagon
LOL, let me go get my farmer to keep digging for gold!
idle falcon
should i save for conq weapons first or go for gear?
velvet wagon
You can only pull tier out of the vault, so tier from the vault is priority unless a wep dropped in there ideally.
idle falcon
im going to get PvE items from vault
vapid tartan
do you have 450 boots?
idle falcon
the set piece ill get from the thingy majig
idle falcon
do you have 450 boots?
no
i have the crafted boots yes
but saving shadowflame spark for PvE
i main PvE but PvP for fun
vapid tartan
Are you trying to queue asap?
idle falcon
wdym
vapid tartan
Like if you’re trying to play now wep is probably the best option cause iirc it’s biggest dps increase
idle falcon
kk
vapid tartan
But in the long run it would be better to finish pve shit and get a wep from vault and save 1.8k conq
idle falcon
i play PvE in the begining of the week to finish everything i need
when i finish everything i can do in the week i d pvp for fun
vapid tartan
Are you gonna be pve focused the whole season?
idle falcon
mostly
vapid tartan
Ah yeah probably just grab a wep then fuckit
idle falcon
but PvP till rival 1 aswell
vapid tartan
Do the sparks quest to upgrade 447 off pieces
idle falcon
which one?
vapid tartan
Gives you trophy of strife to upgrade wpvp gear to 447
vapid tartan
Just find a party and head to a meat grinder while queueing
elfin surge
can i duel wield ashkandur
velvet wagon
no
torpid roost
You can play sub optimally if you wish, we won't stop up
vapid tartan
I believe you can
velvet wagon
its unique equip pretty sure
torpid roost
can i duel wield ashkandur
Unique, no
vapid tartan
pve ppl been talking about it
idle falcon
can i duel wield ashkandur
unique equip
granite quest
What yall get in your vaults
torpid roost
Is that proc unnerfed in pvp?
ruby temple
Gives you trophy of strife to upgrade wpvp gear to 447
do you know what the PVE ilvl is for the upgraded wpvp stuff?
velvet wagon
staring at it in my vault, its unique equip
vapid tartan
Proc is not nerfed in pvp as of yesterday
torpid roost
Nice
elfin surge
imma get my guild to carry me for a mythic ashkandur
torpid roost
Need the mythic one like, now
worthy fern
The tier converter thing isn’t active yet right
torpid roost
4 more weeks I think
vapid tartan
Is it even possible to carry mythic belts yet?
torpid roost
They do the random epics so people will play them at all
vapid tartan
Nelth *
elfin surge
vapid tartan
do you know what the PVE ilvl is for the upgraded wpvp stuff?
Not sure it’s low af tho
Like 369?
idle falcon
xd
ruby temple
there goes my idea of supplementing some peices before raid -_-
teal willow
vapid tartan
Yeah I was watching the liquid stream during the kill
Had no idea what was going on xd
vapid tartan
I’d like to raid more but I literally was getting 20 fps on sark xd
Those damn puddles
It’s a cool fight tho
torpid roost
It's a time commitment and me being an antisocial asshole problem for me
worthy fern
@elfin surge where’s the tier vendor at
stark reef
Where do I go to enchant shadowflame wreathe?
vapid tartan
It's a time commitment and me being an antisocial asshole problem for me
Most of my communication is literally just “hey you want rally popped here right” and it works out
torpid roost
he doesn't pvp and he responds to whining not actual assessment
vapid tartan
@elfin surge can you start pushing up your alts so we can get easy 2400 pls
wary heart
he doesn't pvp and he responds to whining not actual assessment
must be why locks are busted because lock mains screetch like children if their spec isnt s-tier
wary heart
afflock
elfin surge
<@269709440146604032> can you start pushing up your alts so we can get easy 2400...
no
i just q 2s rn
wary heart
locks rn are complaining afflock is bad
vapid tartan
disgust
wary heart
go check their discord over last few days
literal depression lair
"observer is useless now"
vapid tartan
Damn my lock buddy was telling me it’s in an ok place
and he says destro nerfs are fine
wary heart
locks are seething animals
woeful solstice
imma get my guild to carry me for a mythic ashkandur
Isn’t it scuffed in PvP?
vapid tartan
Isn’t it scuffed in PvP?
Not yet
wary heart
pvp is termporary, ken doll tmog is final boss
vapid tartan
post it I wanna see this
woeful solstice
In other news the ban wave for S1 hit today
wary heart
@elfin surge got banned
woeful solstice
Top Kek
wary heart
that's why he's pve'ing
wary heart
mud and maldiva got twitch banned same time
woeful solstice
Coincidence ?
wary heart
and mud's perma'ed in wow
vapid tartan
I mean tbf I wake up at 2pm normally so 4am queue is like when I’m wide awake
vapid tartan
time for wep summoning ritual
mint pulsar
geting 421 lariat you still need primaal infusion or anything changed in 10.1?
stark reef
@elfin surge any thoughts on second shadowflame craft?
The dmg buff on slow/cc reads really nice
elfin surge
<@269709440146604032> any thoughts on second shadowflame craft?
yeah imma craft a second
vapid tartan
geting 421 lariat you still need primaal infusion or anything changed in 10.1?
421 lariat was an automatic upgrade from 418 crafted on 10.1 release
elfin surge
obviously
mint pulsar
421 lariat was an automatic upgrade from 418 crafted on 10.1 release
ok, but geting 418 i guess still requires infusion? 🙂
torpid roost
I filled out the pvp and mythic+ things for vault
vapid tartan
yeah i got a sep toon for pve
torpid roost
M+ took care of me but all my pvp options were dogwater
spice hornet
bruhhh
vapid tartan
vault was shit on that too but i got ominous essence to drop from experiments so im happy on that front
spice hornet
1 epic random BG win only gave 256
torpid roost
Epic BGs are pain
vapid tartan
That happened when I was honor capped to me too yeah
Shit doesn’t count towards vault slots
mental knoll
Alright what do I take in the vault for arms war. Two hander or tier piece?
vapid tartan
Two handed all day
torpid roost
probably 2h
wary heart
probably 2h
spice hornet
must be nice to get 2h and tier
torpid roost
sorry forgot I was in the PVP channel for a sec
wary heart
tier for arms is trash
mental knoll
Ty ty
vapid tartan
4.5% dps in st supposedly but that’s simmed with raid gear
vapid tartan
oh shit I forgot to check
spice hornet
1900 total
vapid tartan
Bro you serious
wary heart
nice
spice hornet
thats how it been
wary heart
i can get a weap
vapid tartan
that’s so dogshit
spice hornet
it should be like 750 a week
quasi zephyr
ring legs shoulders all haste vers which one do i take as fury
vapid tartan
Damn with that cap pribably never worth to take socket rn huh?
vapid tartan
ring legs shoulders all haste vers which one do i take as fury
Think shoulders and legs cost the same? so prolly one of those
Wait no legs are more tha. Shoulders right
quasi zephyr
correct
plush owl
What's the best second embellishment to get? The gathering storm one?
vapid tartan
Yeah probs the legs then
Is it bad idea to use token to finish 2p? Idk if I should wait for 4p
Can get legs + chest so that’s a lotta stats
elder coyote
Hello! is this good?
ruby temple
And yet same damage
ruby temple
Only 500k less healing
vapid tartan
Paid actor
elfin surge
Paid actor
elder coyote
I actually think shoulder is the piece you won’t use as tier
oh god, yeah I wanna make sure so I don't mess the stats
tribal torrent
rating unchanged after winning 3 rounds against 5 2000+ rating players when i'm 1820, nice matchmaking
wary heart
Has anyone actually planned some games on arms? How the changes feel?
above warr is 0-6 lol
ruby temple
That's it I'm gonna go fury and go 0-6 to skew the stats
wary heart
fresh valve
vapid tartan
urban skiff
woeful solstice
Lmao
stark reef
urban skiff
ok but who's fighting? arms v fury?
stark reef
300 more conq and it's all over
visual river
Omg was expecting cap to raise 750 but 550 is worse
stark reef
Conq weapon with Shadowflame Enchant
wary heart
is it good?
stark reef
Yeah, looks very strong for fury
wary heart
im going to pair the conq weapon with upgraded token weapon
urban skiff
Are you getting scalewarden offhand?
yeah that
I know my vault will have weapon because always lucky
stark reef
Oh, i just have honor
I just login, press join queue, don't move
Write emails, wait
visual river
Scalewarden offhand would of been a good play this week. Might do it next week when I have enough tokens
Scalewarden bracers > conq bracers for fury
inner elbow
isnt the scalewarden wep crit vers tho?
urban skiff
conq weapon, vault weapon if no tier pieces, scalewarden if vault has tier
mint pulsar
isnt the scalewarden wep crit vers tho?
wary heart
conq weapon, vault weapon if no tier pieces, scalewarden if vault has tier
ideal is 1600 token for tier, helm vault, buy conq weapon, upgrade token weapon
teal hedge
Arms is simply the superior spec.
wary heart
so you have full weaps, 2piece, boots and a 2nd crafted pvp this week
wary heart
Arms is simply the superior spec.
its not but pop off
urban skiff
thinking about buying 10x shadowflame wreath enchants tonight so I can sell them tomorrow
teal hedge
its not but pop off
Until the new patch drops, arms remains the strongest melee in the game.
teal hedge
And also, only sks is nerfed, arms was still good before SKS became a part of it's rotation.
teal hedge
Also, it's not like fury is the stronger spec either? They're both fine strenght-wise rn.
wary heart
teal hedge
And hopping specs because of a nerf is the exact mindset 10.0.7 pallies had.
wary heart
arms in feral-tier
you're coping hard af
this is pre-nerf btw
sharpen nerf alone is going to be horrible for the spec
teal hedge
Arms is still super-busted, what're you talking aobut
wary heart
whats your cr?
teal hedge
It's 1,4k rn, I haven't had time to play.
But last season I hit 1,8k.
But seriously, as it stands, arms is the stronger spec atm.
visual river
I’m hard stuck 1.4 arms too, fury was easy 1.8
wary heart
you'll see once you get into a lobby with any caster that isnt clicking buttons
teal hedge
I know casters are hard, and getting your burst nerfed sucks, but it still remains a good spec?
wary heart
arms is going to underperform really poorly unless full conq itemization is busted which i dont think it is
teal hedge
I don't need the spec to be ultra s++++ tier
visual river
Man fury instant 200k dps off the bat if stacked on top of all 3 people haha, feels good man
teal hedge
I just need it to work.
Besides, I do not like how fury plays, pressing 3 buttons is so boring it hurts.
Again, the people switching off arms rn are the same people that hopped off paladin when the class was nerfed.
visual river
Love it when the lock stands on top of his healer at the start
wary heart
?
teal hedge
Feeble in mind and spirit.
wary heart
this guy 
teal hedge
Regardless of the nerfs, Arms will remain a solid spec.
visual river
vapid tartan
inner elbow
this guy <:keks:936231610850897992>
teal hedge
"Ahh, I need to win, aahhhhh, I have to play the 3-button-crayon-eater spec, ahhhh, oh I dislike complexity in my rotation"
vapid tartan
I mean arms isn’t exactly complex
mint pulsar
I mean arms isn’t exactly complex
was just about to say lol
teal hedge
Yeah, but compared to fury, the skill-ceiling is far higher.
Both specs floors are very low though.
wary heart
teal hedge
How hard is it to optimise three buttons?
Raging blows, the funny heal button and rampage.
That's it.
teal hedge
Again, regardless, arms remains a strong spec despite the nerfs and I find fury to be unengaging and borderline catatonic.
visual river
Err sorry it’s funny heal button, rampage and swifty CD macro
wary heart
you could run RB + onslaught fury if you want more buttons
urban skiff
So many people forget to have fun in the rush to be cOmPeTiTiVe
teal hedge
^ My exact point.
visual river
If arms was crit spear it would be fun, right now it’s a scuffed feral Druid
urban skiff
swing by reddit and read world of pvp sub. So many miserable people in active distress over a video game not being exactly how they envision it
wary heart
feral's more fun bc you can zoomy
teal hedge
I don't find fury fun, yet it'll be the marginally stronger spec after the drop. I am going to stick arms.
Literally this easy.
wary heart
/r/worldofpvp is lock mains spreading their disgusting filth all over the internet
urban skiff
wary heart
hazy isle
arms really didnt feel like the top melee going up against wizards
but idk how other melees stack up against current caster meta
wary heart
swede bro is cope, sub devours casters, enh is p-good into it but earth shield got nerfed so we'll see
hazy isle
yea enhance was more popular in eu i think even before this patch