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vapid tartan
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only have to take 1 non vers

lethal sandal
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sad fury warrior noises

vapid tartan
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Even better fury #4-10 is between 2-2.1k

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so yr probably pretty high up rn

bright stream
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is shadowflame illusion in game atm

craggy geyser
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1600 in 2s let’s goooo 💪🏼

urban skiff
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how can i tell when it's no longer deflated?

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goal is to wait and see if arms nerfs makes fury better and then wait a little longer and see if blizz realizes and nerfs fury to keep arms ahead.

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@stark reef what's the argument for using onslaught before the swifty macro?

devout merlin
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Could someone share with me the go to talents as arms rn?

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also is spear of bastion no longer a must have?

craggy geyser
craggy geyser
urban skiff
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the theme is blizzard always strives to keep arms above fury in pvp

craggy geyser
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I don’t see it happening but who tf knows

urban skiff
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I think we're flying under the radar this time until we get set bonuses. Then they'll make a balance pass that hits warriors, devokers, and hunters. Destro goes untouched.

devout merlin
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What's up with the roar and skullsplit how does this work in the rotation? have never played with either of them

urban skiff
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that's my prediction. THen a pseudo rework of arms warrior to put it back on top in 10.1.5

elfin surge
urban skiff
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They weren't as aggressive in shadowlands as they are now with making changes to pvp

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I regard s3 and s4 as experiments only from their side

undone pumice
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i regard 80% of wow as an experiment

fickle forge
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Fury should never be good yet alone meta
Don't @ me

mint pulsar
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wow is still beta isnt it?

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final version coming soon

elfin surge
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After rerolling fury:

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@fickle forge thoughts?

fickle forge
elfin surge
urban skiff
wheat jay
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EZ

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and allow dragonriding for them

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EASIEST

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make the game more casual yep

vapid tartan
urban skiff
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I have no idea what to look for

vapid tartan
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“Solo shuffle leaderboard” in google

elfin surge
whole chasm
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Imagine playing fury with an extra button

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🤢

urban skiff
south kestrel
elfin surge
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when the #1 player isnt even 2400 yet, its deflated.

urban skiff
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so sweet spot is when #1 is 3k?

elfin surge
south kestrel
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Tis

teal hedge
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Fellas

south kestrel
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Ive done some nasty 90k onslaughts tho

elfin surge
urban skiff
teal hedge
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Why didn't you inform the mushroom that warbreaker can and will miss?

elfin surge
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anything above is considered inflated

quick stirrup
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Hey guys, do you have any guide for arms pvp right now?

teal hedge
urban skiff
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Who is this "MUD" guy?

teal hedge
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RN he's on the fury train cringe but he's a good arms player

thick reef
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1400 noob warrior

teal hedge
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Just some nobody really, I'm just baiting people

south kestrel
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Fury is comfort

urban skiff
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fury is FUN

quick stirrup
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I hate fury

teal hedge
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Iunno, I like having more than 3 buttons

urban skiff
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Playing fury is the only time my leg isn't hopping at 9000 rpm

teal hedge
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Yeah fury is cringe, arms is where it's at

vapid tartan
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Isn’t mud like heroin or some shit

quick stirrup
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I wann play Arms and need a first Expression of any good pvp talent build

teal hedge
south kestrel
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black mud heroin mate

vapid tartan
teal hedge
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Yup

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Check the pins

quick stirrup
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The Pins are from 23 january

vapid tartan
teal hedge
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They're regularily updated.

vapid tartan
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10.1 came out on jan 23rd?

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That’s a new one

elfin surge
teal hedge
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Galachad and the others like to theorycraft a bit

quick stirrup
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No but i didnt understand why the post is dated in january. Thank you guys anyway. I will read the pins instead

urban skiff
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yuck

teal hedge
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So true bestie

urban skiff
quick stirrup
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Yeah i got it now, thanks 😁

teal hedge
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Wow pvp on twitch is crazy

vapid tartan
teal hedge
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You just see someone called "#1 hpriest" and when you watch the stream it's just completely silent except for the weakaura and some music

elfin surge
thick reef
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@teal hedge have u seen hardcore stuff

teal hedge
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With a render of their character in the bottom left or right

teal hedge
thick reef
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Yea bro xaryu with casually 20k viewers

vapid tartan
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Hc arena when??

thick reef
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LOL

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Yes

teal hedge
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Only HC I watched was Guzu on Gussy

elfin surge
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xaryu hc streams are pog

teal hedge
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Everything else has just annoyed me

thick reef
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Rip gussy

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Died to an item

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Lmao

teal hedge
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Died to having the suicide-button™️ bound to a common key

vapid tartan
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Isn’t blizzard planning on adding some mak gora feature on hc server

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Read that somewhere

elfin surge
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pretty sad the views on twitch have tanked recently for pvp streamers

teal hedge
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Yeah

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HC is a whole different beast

elfin surge
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its like

vapid tartan
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It’s ok mud I will watch you everyday in class

teal hedge
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Has people outside of wow getting on

elfin surge
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down 60% since the start of Df

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btw

teal hedge
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Like TommyKay

thick reef
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When u duel

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U can type it I think

teal hedge
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Even AzAMOuS is doing HC

elfin surge
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hc classic gunna be pog

thick reef
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Lmao I love that guy

teal hedge
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I remember when it was called ironman

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Smh my head

vapid tartan
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If it was real hc mak gora they’d make you unequip all armor

thick reef
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Yessir when 60 stream @elfin surge

elfin surge
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busy gaming on retail

thick reef
teal hedge
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But yeah, I've watched the #1 hpriest a bit

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Zenlyn

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What a maniac

thick reef
teal hedge
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Goon stayed awake for 60 hours or smth just queueing hpriest

elfin surge
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is there even any point to playing hc classic rn when new servers are coming for it now

thick reef
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Idk

teal hedge
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Not really?

elfin surge
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just would need to do it all over

thick reef
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Thought they would let u transfer ur chars over

elfin surge
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lmao no

thick reef
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Wtf

teal hedge
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No idea why hc became so large

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It'

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s almost obnoxious

elfin surge
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i would assume they will be separate types with their own content release schedule ?

vapid tartan
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Just got mc dc and won

elfin surge
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phases to hc classic

vapid tartan
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Jesus fury is stupid

teal hedge
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I want my high-instensity low-attention-span entertainment

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I want murder I want conflict

elfin surge
teal hedge
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I'm gonna stick with arms

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Even if we stop rolling sks rend is improved.

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Btw, if you listen to phonk when you pvp I will bully you

elfin surge
urban skiff
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oh wait that's for young people

teal hedge
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Yeah

urban skiff
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Facebook streams when?

teal hedge
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And wow doesn't have that

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When I first got into wow again I kept being called "baby" and "child" by my guildmates in classic, I was 18.

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I'm 19 now though 😎

urban skiff
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I'm in my mid 30s

teal hedge
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As are most wow-players, I think

urban skiff
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yea

vapid tartan
teal hedge
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One more year and I get to purchase liquor 😎

urban skiff
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My guild has a surprising number of young people.

vapid tartan
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just get a fake lol

teal hedge
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Nah, it's chill

vapid tartan
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they’re like 30$ here

teal hedge
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Parents buy it for me

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In fact, gonna get a shipment of 4 litres tomorrow.

vapid tartan
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damn lol

teal hedge
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2 litres of vodka, 1 litre of rum and 1 litre of jägermeister.

vapid tartan
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I got one to go to the smoke shop when I was under 18 xd

teal hedge
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That's 1,05 gallons

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Real

urban skiff
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The top of my cabinet is sagging because I have like 20+ bottles of red wine I've been gifted by clients at work

vapid tartan
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Jesus bro

teal hedge
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Yeah, but it's mostly grogg-alcohol

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So a spiced bacardi, two different flavoured vodkas

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And jäger goes crazy with redbull

vapid tartan
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I don’t drink much but when I do it’s gum + unflavored vodka

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No hangover

teal hedge
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I am a slave to the al-ghul (I drink like twice or thrice a month)

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Yeah I don't get hangovers either

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I'm a big guy; I got big organs

vapid tartan
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No offense but I had svekda a few times

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Threw it all up each time that shit is nasty

teal hedge
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Liver made me completely sober after just two hours after I drank 8 shots in 40 minutes.

teal hedge
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We have absolut, though

vapid tartan
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oh just some cheap vodka that I think is marketed as Swedish

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Idk tbh

teal hedge
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Oh

vapid tartan
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Has the nastiest fruit flavors

teal hedge
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Oy vey

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Yeah swedish national-drink is "akvavit"

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Or brännvin, which can be translated into moonshine

vapid tartan
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Sweden’s cool I fuck with the Vikings played a lot of mount and blade vc

teal hedge
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Or just vodka

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Brännvin can also be vodka

vapid tartan
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I mean my skin ain’t that dark bro

teal cedar
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is there a pin or msg for fury? ive never played the spec and looking to try it

urban skiff
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@mild thunder fury guide when?

vapid tartan
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I think you can go to mud channel and put in !fury

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The build he’s using is nice

teal cedar
vapid tartan
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Oh I meant twitch stream sorry

teal cedar
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oh, whats his twitch username?

urban skiff
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mudcx

teal cedar
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thx both 🙂

whole chasm
urban skiff
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snaps**

whole chasm
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punsch(?)***

teal cedar
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ok looks like !fury was just the build, but i dont even know the rotation or burst is (literally never played) - there a noob guide?

urban skiff
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Rampage when you can
execute when you can and you're enraged
bloodthirst anytime
slam if you're desperate
whirlwind(?)

whole chasm
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rotation is Bloodthirst Bloodthirst Bloodthirst Rampage repeat

teal cedar
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lol ok sounds easy, burst macro or anything?

urban skiff
whole chasm
urban skiff
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need that third button so people will stop calling us a 2button spec

whole chasm
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well, burst macro counts as the third

urban skiff
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i consider it the zeroest button

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who ever said fury warriors dum?

whole chasm
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as a BM chad, fury is heaven as melee alt

mild thunder
urban skiff
mild thunder
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will add fury builds to pins in a bit

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im smite-ing Pepexecute

vapid tartan
urban skiff
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don't forget to add onslaught

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it's the new sks

mild thunder
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will probably just re-add the annihilator and onslaught builds that were there in 10.0, just need to update the onslaught build for new tier

mint pulsar
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i trust mud, no need for onslaught!

mild thunder
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will include an AM build because im confident it is genuinely better for an rb build

urban skiff
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Onslaught is annihilator with Odyn's Fury swapped out for onslaught

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idk if it's great at high levels but for low range and mid it's a blast to blow people up

worthy fern
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What does onslaught even hit for

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Odyns does so much dam

urban skiff
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i've done onslaught hits for 80-90k

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and i generally use it before popping cooldowns so

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generally it seems to hit closer to 50k

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Is menace still bugged? someone on reddit made a mention that the duration is increased in pvp with the talent

elfin surge
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pretty sure onslaught is only used with the raging blow build

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not annihilator

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tenderizer makes onslaught buff your next rampage by 60%

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only 10% when playing anni

mild thunder
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onslaught legit just a waste of space on anni build

whole chasm
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so to play onslaught you need to add ANOTHER button

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too many buttons

mild thunder
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it'll almost be a full rotation 🤯

urban skiff
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OF only deals 1½ times the damage of onslaught and has 3x cooldown. I think tenderize is just for longer enrage = more damage reduction

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and i suppose extra damage

whole chasm
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bro my brains is fried i thought you typed up a sales post for Onlyfans

mild thunder
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the reason i like the AM build is that OF/ava burst windows are too short, while AM burst windows are twice as long with roughly the same CD

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and onslaught is a really good button for rb build

urban skiff
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I'm not smart enough to argue for onslaught. I just know it feels kinda good to have a big slap

mild thunder
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onslaught is a full rage generator with reck

urban skiff
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I think it has potential with 4 set to make some giga plays and big slaps

mild thunder
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rb build is definitely better dmg, it's just a debate over whether you're happy to tradeoff sustain/tankiness for the higher dmg

urban skiff
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like stack the damage buff on a target, wait for it to escape, spear charge swiftymacro with onslaught -> big BT

vapid tartan
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I think thogrey showed a vid running raging blows w 4pc bloodbath hit big

elfin surge
vapid tartan
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Don’t remember exactly rho

elfin surge
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im perma enraged without it

vapid tartan
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aren’t we like always enraged?

mild thunder
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ye

urban skiff
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too much work

vapid tartan
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ashkandur ain’t nerfed in pvp might be worth to just run normal/heroic and get two of em lul

elfin surge
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anni vs rb/onslaught

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whats better

mild thunder
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cant have two ashkandur

elfin surge
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pretty sure as raging blow build u can pick up OF and Onslaught right?

urban skiff
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you can

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but who wants to play RB build without charging on every RB?

elfin surge
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yea thats where onslaught is played

vapid tartan
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Wait yeah forgot we run boots hih

mild thunder
elfin surge
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bloodthirst spam is surprisingly high dps esp with cold steel hot blood procs

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not the mention insane healing

mild thunder
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ravager + hurricane is actually decent for a 15% str buff every reck (~45s)

vapid tartan
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is it ever worth to take barbarian into shit like double mage?

urban skiff
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you can double leap the fuck out when they try to kill you

vapid tartan
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I was thinkin run up mounted pop a cd, get their first blink leap, then try and get another mobility cd with barb

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Not sure how well it would work In practice

elfin surge
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bloodbath executes can crit over 100k easy

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pretty insane how much damage fury does

urban skiff
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I'm always in love with fury

clever dagger
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hey guys i test arround atm and not sure if i should change something for my dmg my burst is not that good as i think and after my burst the dmg overall is not that crazy rn any tips here?

mild thunder
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even w/ the 50% nerf fury tier is still pretty good

urban skiff
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If only you had another button to press so you could hold off on BT until it's stacked up. Preferably something that generates 30 fury so it's almost a full rampage during reck?

mild thunder
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cant only spam onslaught tho

vapid tartan
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Ravager spear build when?

urban skiff
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cooldowns -> rampage bt bt rampage onslaught slam rampage BT

idle falcon
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where is fury build :<

elfin surge
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right chatting

vapid tartan
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So when bloodbath “greatly empowers” what kinda numbers we talkin

urban skiff
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double damage

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at least according to tooltip

idle falcon
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what is new fury build

urban skiff
idle falcon
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oki

elfin surge
urban skiff
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3rd button means I'm 50% smorter

vapid tartan
idle falcon
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shoouldn't we switch titans torment to berserkers torment?

urban skiff
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why?

idle falcon
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idk

vapid tartan
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I mean you pop reck and ava at the same time a lot anyway no?

idle falcon
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also why rockwave

vapid tartan
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3s stun on kt

clever dagger
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is it worth to play arms rn or is fury so much better? never played fury before only arms

idle falcon
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shockwave*

vapid tartan
urban skiff
clever dagger
vapid tartan
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Yes

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fury damage is pretty nuts I would try it anyway

urban skiff
clever dagger
stark eagle
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was there a massive Damage nerf within the last couple days? damage feels extremely low across the board suddenly

vapid tartan
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No changes to arms till Tuesday

elfin surge
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Yeah what are we going to gear for boys

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arms or fury first

vapid tartan
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Both on diff toons

urban skiff
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also ditch droar and get full shockwave talents

primal cosmos
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I feel like Arms is tier set is going to be better than ppl think tbh

mild thunder
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who let bro cook

stark eagle
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Im thinking Arms once we get into full tier territory

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and better gear

mild thunder
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arms tier is peepeepoopoo lets be real

stark eagle
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look, isnt as nice as last season

clever dagger
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is there a good arms player that can answer me some questions and help me maybe ?

urban skiff
stark eagle
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No such thing we're all bad here

vapid tartan
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I mean it’s something but furry tier looks nicer

primal cosmos
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MS hitting several ppl is good, but I’m a RBG player

mild thunder
clever dagger
stark eagle
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just cause its the hot take at the moment, All Arms doomers atm

primal cosmos
urban skiff
stark eagle
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Fury is Mindless fun

clever dagger
urban skiff
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arms gonna be fine.

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fury will stay fun

mild thunder
primal cosmos
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I found that just using MS on cooldown is better overpower when you can’t for resets and shish

stark eagle
primal cosmos
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As a pure arms player, does fury have a healing reduction talent?

mild thunder
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yes

clever dagger
mild thunder
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@elfin surge pins updated okayge

vapid tartan
primal cosmos
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Thank you @urban skiff

stark eagle
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keep sweeping up aswell when they are all kissin

primal cosmos
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Show us the build @clever dagger

clever dagger
clever dagger
idle falcon
urban skiff
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read the pin

urban skiff
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it was just updated

primal cosmos
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@clever dagger mainly for shuff?

elfin surge
clever dagger
mild thunder
clever dagger
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im not that experienced experienced about the talents swaping on df

vapid tartan
mild thunder
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the extra enrage is useless and the reck procs feel awkward

primal cosmos
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Are you hitting all your interrupts consistently?

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@clever dagger

clever dagger
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8/10

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not 100%

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but in burst every time

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to get the dmg buff

primal cosmos
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Concussive blows is a swap talent for sure

primal cosmos
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What pvp talents @clever dagger

urban skiff
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I don't understand this "cook" meme

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I'm too old

mild thunder
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it would be cool if cockwave could do decent dmg

idle falcon
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basically let him explain

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he might be on to something

mild thunder
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but even with all the talents it's like 15k keks

idle falcon
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OMG GALACHAD

urban skiff
urban skiff
clever dagger
mild thunder
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bring back ancient aftershock sadge

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and necro banner

idle falcon
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hi galachad senpai

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notice me >_<

primal cosmos
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So I like storm for the 1 min Bladestorm with the CD reduction on thunderous roar so both line up for 1 min @clever dagger

mild thunder
idle falcon
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so galachad

idle falcon
urban skiff
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it is certainly A build

elfin surge
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Peasantchad

idle falcon
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or am i being trolled

urban skiff
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surv hunter and bm, who do i test shockwave on?

primal cosmos
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Pvp talent storm of destruction or something

mild thunder
idle falcon
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good to know :D

mild thunder
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there's some new-ish builds in pins

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just scroll down

idle falcon
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back to annighalator

vapid tartan
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galachad bring back biden pfp pls

mild thunder
clever dagger
urban skiff
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ok i admit it's probably crap

mild thunder
vapid tartan
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lies

idle falcon
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battlegrounds are..

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holy shit

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XD

urban skiff
idle falcon
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fps drop for the whole family mroe like it

vapid tartan
idle falcon
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no

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fuck laptops

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pc gamer for life

vapid tartan
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I’m poor bro

idle falcon
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atleast you use laptop

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unlike console gamers

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but

vapid tartan
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ew

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I could never

idle falcon
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Wii is suprime

mild thunder
idle falcon
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Wii > Computers > Laptops > all other things

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i need 2 ilvl to join solo shuffle >_<

vapid tartan
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What is a wii

idle falcon
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bruh

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nintendo wii

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wii sports

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wii party

clever dagger
vapid tartan
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Oh I googled it ik wat yr talking about

vapid tartan
clever dagger
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and for real? xD

urban skiff
idle falcon
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bruh

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i get 50

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and im rtx 3080

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XD

vapid tartan
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Bro I get 50 in arena on a 2012 macbook

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Wat settings?

idle falcon
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max

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with rtx

vapid tartan
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Oh figures

idle falcon
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for both npc and player

vapid tartan
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just turn that shit down a bit?

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xd

idle falcon
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never

vapid tartan
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low mmr fury games are so much fun

south kestrel
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man

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how tf do you survive in shuffle as fury lmao

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against casters

vapid tartan
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watch your positioning and when healer is in cc

south kestrel
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every game i have is a full caster lobby

craggy geyser
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LOS em, and try not to waste a charge / leap CD. One wasted CD will cost you

idle falcon
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honestly im just bing-chilling

green root
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And do you people deal with kite to Africa

granite basin
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Kill

idle falcon
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Kill

stark reef
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First game of the day

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Back to #23

idle falcon
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wtf

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how are you rival 1 already

stark reef
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Had a good coffee just now

idle falcon
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also did u play cool fury or bad arms

stark reef
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0 games on arms this season

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just fury

idle falcon
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chad

stark reef
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But was a nice lobby - ran double DPS trinket every round because those classes don't really scare me

granite basin
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Nice

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Is that with your annihilation and onslaught meme

stark reef
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Yes, just playing memes

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Clueless player, clearly

granite basin
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Double insignia

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Chad

stark reef
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When in doubt, ignore #1, listen to the guy that plays smite

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🤝

granite basin
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I see a lot of people buying ring already

stark reef
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I still have to upgrade my boots

granite basin
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I haven't spent any cq yet

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I'm also bad tho

stark reef
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Me neither, will wait for weps

granite basin
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That's what I was thinking

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I don't have a lot of time to play but I really want the 1800 mog

urban skiff
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I can't figure out the advantage

stark reef
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For enrage?

urban skiff
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why not rampage instead?

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or is this for instant yolo?

stark reef
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You got rage for rampage from your charge?

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instant yolo

urban skiff
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ah ok

stark reef
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You really think it's a yolo?

urban skiff
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i like to connect with a rando and build rage, then hardswap murder

stark reef
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You do you champ...

urban skiff
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I'm a bit of an expert

stark reef
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I can tell

urban skiff
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still, you were right about onslaught anni being fun

stark reef
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Do you understand what tempo means in a pvp context?

urban skiff
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literally don't understand anything

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and I'm not joking

stark reef
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Tempo means you are ahead on CD's

#

If you are "building rage and swapping to murder" you are already behind just because of that

#

Because now I hit your team-mate with my CD's for whatever time you took and if the game goes to 90sec I have my CD's back and you don't

#

Guess what happens then?

#

You're behind even further

#

So do you but understand that every second you are not pressing your CD's when they're up someone else in your lobby is and you're falling behind on tempo

urban skiff
#

Won't i be worse off if they can just cc my cooldowns though?

stark reef
#

No

#

Because they can cc your cooldowns regardless - the game just started

#

They have all buttons

#

So just get it over with

#

You think they don't have CC if you press your stuff 20sec later?

idle falcon
#

i have to ask

urban skiff
#

If i wait a few seconds it's more likely they'll DR something out of impatience

idle falcon
#

why is shockwave good....

#

like why use it

stark reef
#

Tempo down the drain my friend

#

All I'm gonna say

urban skiff
#

I don't need tempo if I lose in the first 90 seconds

stark reef
#

True

idle falcon
#

@stark reef

#

is shockwave good

stark reef
#

Shockwave is good CC

idle falcon
#

oki

urban skiff
#

Wish I could reset my MMR. Starting out playing against 2k people is disheartening. I just want to face the same dumbos I do on my devoker

stark reef
#

Allows you to shockwave kill-target, cc healer with bolt

urban skiff
#

or use as a pseudo interrupt

stark reef
urban skiff
#

only 12 rounds

stark reef
#

Yeah, so just play more, mmr will adjust

idle falcon
#

weekly?

urban skiff
#

i want it adjusted without 20 rounds of disappointment and feeling like a failure

stark reef
#

That's called queue anxiety

#

Who gives a shit how you perform in a video game

#

If you're not getting paid, just fk it, play and have fun

urban skiff
#

My daughter watches me play and she's begun asking questions about why "real daddy" isn't winning as much as "dragon daddy"

idle falcon
#

bruh

stark reef
#

Put her in a headlock to fix those manners

idle falcon
#

MANNERS MUST BE FIXED!

craggy geyser
#

Lmfaoooooo

urban skiff
#

She's 4 though so I'm just telling her that daddy nap means we win

golden cypress
#

Lads what’s the best rotation for an onslaught build? Is it just use onslaught on cool-down or saved for crushing blow?

urban skiff
#

use on cooldown because it makes rampage hit like a truck

#

or i guess harder, i don't know about truckiness of the strike

golden cypress
urban skiff
#

why cb instead of annie build?

golden cypress
#

Was mainly aiming to play shuffle and last time I checked folks were stacking mastery and not playing anni, i could be wrong though the playstyle is a wee bit different since start of BfA. Good having shit like intervene back

urban skiff
#

I'll be damned, didn't notice CB'ers snuck into the top list

teal hedge
#

I rep 175 kg at da leg press

golden cypress
urban skiff
#

doing great

teal hedge
#

Leg day is a test of spirit more than it is of the body

urban skiff
#

start doing zercher squats

graceful ginkgo
#

Always use yourself as a benchmark, don’t compare yourself to others much

teal hedge
#

I mean, already da strongest outta the 3 of us

urban skiff
#

wait what?

teal hedge
#

Working out with 2 other guys

#

Tbf, I am the tallest, 6'4

urban skiff
#

Stay stronk friend.

idle falcon
#

ok i will

#

since my name is Stronkmon

urban skiff
#

Tbh you're all friends and you must all stay stronk

teal hedge
#

But favourite remains pull-day

urban skiff
#

mine was squat day

#

but my homegym is just bad setup for it so zercher squats until i move again

stark reef
urban skiff
stark reef
#

I mean that's clearly cooked AF

#

Mud at 3400?

urban skiff
#

idk

stark reef
#

There is literally an official blizzard one

#

Sometimes I really wonder

#

Maybe nuking PvP channel not a bad idea after all

urban skiff
#

isn't this the pvp channel?

stark reef
#

Yes, and it's 99% useless

#

Everybody is running annihilator but this channel is trying to reinvent the wheel and play raging blow

#

Makes my brain melt

urban skiff
#

let's aim for 110%

stark reef
#

You're working hard on that

urban skiff
#

let's all spec into full shockwave

#

1709 rating cutoff to be featured in 2v2 leaderboard

#

suddenly i feel significantly less bad about being 1500

toxic stratus
#

How do you play into double caster as arms?

sharp meteor
#

Very carefully.

urban skiff
#

wait for my destro to do everything for me

stark reef
#

These shitters have 1 job. 1 Job...

#

Healers in this game are actually retarded

craggy geyser
#

@stark reef I’m currently running Muds fury build is there something you’re running different? Just curious

stark reef
#

Listen to Mud

craggy geyser
#

Yeah I thought you may have mentioned another build just seeing what’s out there

stark reef
#

This is my 2nd month of retail pvp - Mud lives and breathes this game. As do plenty others on the leaderboards much higher than me. Why would you listen to me?

elfin surge
#

kay

royal rose
#

Fury feels underwhelming still

golden cypress
elfin surge
#

are u sure about that?

elfin surge
#

feels like fury does the most dam in the game

whole chasm
#

race change from nelf to human or level up another one? huh

urban skiff
#

big mistake

#

go kt human instead

whole chasm
#

i dont have kt unlocked kek

urban skiff
#

it's sleeper race

whole chasm
#

was actually considering it

#

full zugzug

#

but all my chars are ally

elfin surge
#

thats a crime

craggy meteor
#

Do you think it gets easier or harder for us next week? We are getting nerfed but so are annoying destro locks

urban skiff
craggy meteor
#

What about arms?

urban skiff
#

I'd say it sounds like a lose lose if you play arms warlock

craggy meteor
#

no lol I mean I play arms

#

but warlocks getting nerfed makes it easier for us right? When they're in every lobby

urban skiff
#

but who's your partner?

craggy meteor
#

but we also get nerfed

#

Solo shuffle

urban skiff
#

ah

#

Your rating will go up 100

#

I don'

#

I don't think the arms nerfs look that big

elfin surge
#

arms will be fine

#

but i think a lot of arms wars are going to try fury after the nerfs only to realize how broken it is.

urban skiff
#

idk, that sounds complicated

#

if i don't take things too seriously i don't have to face the fact that I'm not very good at a game i've played for 17 years

#

wait, 18½ years

#

so is this why everybody always ccs me from the start?

lucid walrus
#

you're just taking turns playing offense and defense during one another's burst windows until something dies

stark reef
urban skiff
#

I don't think I have the brain power to make arenas complicated like that

lucid walrus
#

certain melee have a rep for being brainless for a reason ngl

#

muscle memory and (light) addon use can greatly benefit how well you play

#

magic dude usually can't hurt you if he can't see you

#

etc etc

urban skiff
#

like I said, i've played this game for 18+ years. If I was going to learn all of that i would have by now

craggy meteor
#

Is fury really that strong? How come there are less high rated fury than arms atm? People just not figured it out yet?

lucid walrus
#

likely not

urban skiff
#

People like arms and are stubborn about it

lucid walrus
#

arms probably had competitive representation even when fury was king in s1 ngl

near delta
urban skiff
#

And there's perceived prestige in being as good/better at a more difficult spec.

#

I mean, the point of doing something is that you're having fun. We shouldn't abstain from a fun hobby just because we aren't very good at it.

And it's not that I'm not learning and improving. I'm just behind everyone else and they keep improving at a faster pace than I. I'll always be behind and that's ok

stark reef
#

Having some great rounds with double insignia

urban skiff
#

That's also a way to have fun. Full respect from me

stark reef
#

Gotta be a bit more mindful of stance but definitely some blowouts

urban skiff
wary heart
#

how's arms getting nerfed but locks and boomkins exist

#

4 second sharpen, might as well just delete the talent

#

i sit in 10 seconds of micro cc

stark reef
#

Lock isn’t broken imo

#

Neither is boomy

#

Dvoker only class I feel like is broken

urban skiff
tight dawn
#

Is skullsplitter still worth taking post nerfs or are people leaning towards standard bleed without ss?

vapid tartan
#

bro we havent even got to try it yet

tight dawn
#

Very fair

elfin surge
#

might be worth picking up fatality or something

elder coyote
#

as Fury, should I just train whatever target my teammate is attacking?

vapid tartan
#

depends a lot

#

bc swapping off can lose you your ms effect

#

if its someone who can parse on your team if left alone like a destro lock no you likely shouldnt unless youre in bad positioning, he has defensives up etc

#

but like say you notice an arms use parry, and your cds are coming up somewhat late in the game it would be good to swap

urban skiff
#

in solo shuffle as fury should i keep hitting a target when they have defensives or externals on them or should i swap off?

vapid tartan
#

yeah if you press your buttons hard enough you can break bubble

elfin valve
#

is fury still turboshit?

vapid tartan
#

its good

spice hornet
#

Fury is mongo rn

#

Brain dead damage

vapid tartan
#

yup xd feel so dirty doing the burst

teal hedge
#

Arms remains the best rn

#

This will change on thursday

dense cove
#

I used my free tier piece token on a pve piece by accident, I only play PvP. How fukked am I? 😢

vapid tartan
#

what ilvl is it xd

dense cove
#

434

vapid tartan
#

yeah thats kinda fucked

#

honor is 437

stark reef
elder coyote
stark reef
#

Get random gos with reck and both trinkets popping and people just fall over keks

spice hornet
#

meta is not good when fury is better than arms

elfin valve
vapid tartan
#

keep in mind at low cr ur teammate is probably as clueless as you

spice hornet
#

fury rewards being a mongo regard

stark reef
#

It sure does

vapid tartan
#

if you feel like something will win you a game possibly, try it out

#

learning experience

elder coyote
#

true true

vapid tartan
#

better to lose off your decision than question hmm what if i did this?

elfin valve
#

tbh i'm 2.1k xp in SL as ret an rogue, but i'm brain dead now and omega bad. just want to push 1.8k and call it mog

clever dagger
#

can some one tell me if warbreaker still good or not anymore

stark reef
wary heart
#

yall talkin like arms is some chess master spec

stark reef
#

Arms literally equally as brain dead

drowsy girder
#

should i craft the 450 boots for arms

#

or wait

urban skiff
#

In a few days you can make your second crafted piece

spare leaf
#

what in the actual F do i do with demolocks like holy feces

urban skiff
#

I'm not sure there's a good reason to wait

wary heart
#

wait till dampening

#

for destro, idk pray you dont overlap defensives 2nd go if you're playing shuffle

spare leaf
#

wow... seems like locks are just untouchable

wary heart
#

most are really really bad so its fine

#

positioning and lining them is the only thing you can really do until high dampening

spare leaf
#

Ima see what can be done there then, definitely some new things I need to learn

wary heart
#

if you're not aware of your positioning at every moment vs lock you're going to get micro cc'ed into gg

#

know where their port is most importantly, pre-BS their coil if possible

#

if you charge them on port, 99% will insta coil

#

save leap for gate, etc.

#

its hard to give you a playbook it really depends on the map, comp, healer, etc., but knowing their escape CDs is 50% of it

elder coyote
wary heart
#

theres no point in kicking anything but a late cast CB

elder coyote
#

I knew that clueless

spare leaf
#

Okay, thanks a ton for the tips, 1 thing, what is pre-BS?

#

im literally writing this all down cause im just so lost in my life after this last game i had

wary heart
#

bladestorm immunes all lock bs

weak wedge
#

If too poor for shadowflame wreath, what are the go to enchants for fury ? Double mastery or Mastery/haste ?

wary heart
#

so if you are bladestorming while they try to stun you, they waste it

spare leaf
#

oh so it was bladestorm, i thought there's something new lol

wary heart
#

yeah

#

liquid clears mythic, EU madge

elfin valve
#

has liquid ever won yet

#

i have terrible memory about it

wary heart
#

im not a pve loremaster but im sure someone knows

white otter
#

so fury or arms better to get a quick 1800 in ss? just want the mog and get out of that hellhole again

sterile ferry
#

anyone mess with mastery heavy stats and hurricane or crit still better

#

for arms

dim swallow
#

Ive tried to find the best 2v2spec for arms in here but cant find an updated tree

stark reef
#

This discord is for shitposting only

dim swallow
#

Looked on bajs and magnus yt and twich aswell but didnt find for the new update

#

Anyone sitting on the "best" tree for warr+rsham?

plush owl
#

Did you check the pins in this channel?

dim swallow
#

Didnt know that existed, lemme check

#

Thank you mr thats what I was looking for!

plush owl
#

np

elfin surge
half swan
#

So im tryna craft these shoes. When starting the order they show up as 411/450, however after posting it, they show up as 382/424... Supposed to be like this?

spring python
#

have to change the spark choice

vapid tartan
#

And yes make sure you have shadowflame spark being used

half swan
#

It is being used, the ilvl changes as soon as its posted

#

And are the pantaloons better? 😮

vapid tartan
#

Yeah that’s fine as long as you’re using the trophy of conquest along with shadowflame spark

#

I think it shows something lower once listed for some reason

half swan
#

kk dope

spring python
#

Which leg enchant do we use? still the Fierce or the new one with Vers

#

I would think Vers but the wording is "Main stat" and I dont know if Stam is considered a main stat

vapid tartan
#

What’s the thing called again?

#

The vers enchant

spring python
#

Fierce Armor kit or Lambent Armor Kit

#

Lambent gives 155 primary stat and 41 vers

#

otherwise fierce gives 177 str and 131 stam

elfin surge
#

fierce better

vapid tartan
#

Not sure, think most people were using fierce for both specs on ladder

#

Def better for fury bc more stam for bloodthirst right?

elfin surge
#

better for both

vapid tartan
#

Also, I get sustained on chest for fury, we still want it on arms or go waking stats?

quartz raptor
#

how about feet for fury what we going for on that one this season ?

stark reef
#

Most upgraded their boots

quartz raptor
#

sounds good to me then

stark reef
#

Yeah, not sure if best option but definitely good option - did so myself and loving the extra dmg

#

Went toe to toe with arms war rated 2700 in 3s last season - I like where this is going

vapid tartan
#

We get next spark Tuesday right? Prolly grabbin that melee precog

spring python
#

melee precog?

vapid tartan
#

Figurine of gathering storm

stark reef
#

That does sound amazing

#

Seeing some people also run the helm that puts a dot on people

#

Do we know how often this procs?

spring python
#

Do you just craft it and apply it to an armor piece like a enchantment?

vapid tartan
#

Helm seems pretty trash compared to rhat tbh

quartz raptor
#

so im a bit of a noob had to look up what precog was lol that seems interesting

vapid tartan
#

Oh wait nvm i was looking at numbers apparently they are not very high

dense herald
#

so do i go for haste or mastery as fury

vapid tartan
dense herald
#

thats why i was wondering

#

what do ppl perfer

elfin surge
#

Mastery > Vers > Haste @dense herald

vapid tartan
#

It says below that

#

Prolly best to fill mast wherever u can and haste after that bc you will always be enraged

dense herald
mortal gulch
#

Hey guys, if I am using gladius ex I still see my default blizzard party frames. How do i disable them?

vapid tartan
#

Think there’s an option in interface settings

mortal gulch
#

So not in the UI Edit Mode, in the actual settings?

vapid tartan
#

Yeah actual settings should be an option in the interface section to uncheck it

mortal gulch
#

I will check. thx

urban skiff
#

@elfin surge what's the deal with weapon enchants, is the new one worth it?

elfin surge
#

once we have full gear and max health maybe not

urban skiff
#

In the "any advantage is an advantage" way or in the "this is getting nerfed holy shit wild damage" way?

elfin surge
#

we just have no gear so double enchants pump

urban skiff
#

sounds like the former, then

twin mural
#

this season feels really diff for me. im struggling really hard. getting wrecked by other melees

#

was 2500 + in SS last season now im stuck on 1700

elfin surge
twin mural
#

yeah

elfin surge
#

its the start of the season bro

twin mural
#

im meeting the real good ones u think?

elfin surge
#

people were 3600 when you were 2500

#

people are 2300 when you're 1700

lean burrow
#

there's shamans with 3400 critcake

elfin surge
#

not currently

twin mural
#

alright MUD thanks, ill be patient and keep on gaming

urban skiff
twin mural
#

play as much as possible now when u are meeting kings

elfin surge
#

nobody is 2400 yet on na

#

i dont believe

urban skiff
urban skiff
#

actual leaderboard

lean burrow
#

mud exposed gladge

elfin surge
urban skiff
#

murlok.io may not show arena ratings. But it does show the rating Mud has in our hearts

elfin surge
urban skiff
#

3400 is actual true love. So close Mud, yet you never made it.

elfin surge
#

idc ab shuff

#

sort by 3s xp

urban skiff
#

If only you had picked onslaught annie build

#

Also true love attained.

urban skiff
#

haha

#

that'

#

that's actually pretty great

woeful solstice
urban skiff
#

isn't inflation just how much rating increases over many weeks?

near delta
urban skiff
#

66k here

#

but what's 132k vs a 2% increase in damooge?

#

does intervene not take shadowblades attack or what? Rogue just murdered my paladin right through it

elfin surge
#

also dont understand how inflation works throughout the season

urban skiff
#

shit was wild

#

I'm not actually sure why the game was handing out so much rating to begin with

#

seems like an easy knob to turn down

#

i just went 1800 got my mog and went off to do pve and stuff

twin mural
#

good plan protean

#

think im gonna do the same , gfot the set and just dossome m+

urban skiff
#

I think I'm gonna play more this time

hazy isle
#

"mudcx? not sure who you are talking about. I have been enjoying watching dekel play wotlk 2s, more warrior-like if you ask me"

elfin surge
#

"mudcx? not sure who you are talking about. I have been enjoying watching dekel play wotlk 2s, more warrior-like if you ask me"

woeful solstice
#

1750 in 3s

mortal gulch
#

Can someone recommend a total - newbie warrior PvP / arena guide? Dmg rotations, defensives and so on?

spice hornet
#

these epic boxes we get randomly need to have like 100g in them

urban skiff
#

"randomly"

spice hornet
#

i dont need 3 potion of defiance

#

i mean, they're randomly given for wins after the daily

urban skiff
#

they certainly needs to stop containing shadowflame residue bags

#

wtf is that shit

spice hornet
#

you dont like getting 2 sacks of shit?

urban skiff
#

i have a 9 month old baby

spice hornet
urban skiff
#

she generates a ton of shit

wary heart
elfin surge
#

the mies

#

would nev q

#

with me

undone pumice
stark reef
#

“Sir, please hand over the rating to this double insignia no trinket gnome.”

wary heart
#

if they tone down cr any more in solo it'll be unplayed because healers wont queue

#

healers are the biggest man baby whiners

#

disc: you didnt perfectly kick the opposing healer, stormbolt the cyclone cast while zugging the destro

#

so im going to go afk in a corner

#

k cool man

stark reef
wary heart
#

i had a disc in solo shuffle ask me to do "extra good" because he was too high to dome

quick carbon
wary heart
#

cats out of the bag, people arent going back to LFG even if they removed it

#

i'd just quit wow tbh, im not dealing with LFG circus roulette like it was in s3/4 of SL

#

i dont think i've had a more grueling experience in a video game

stark reef
#

Have dampening just heal people a lot early and then less and less

wary heart
#

bots would be better than disc main from ragnaros shouting at everyone to use CDs when he's cc'ed behind a pillar in narnia

stark reef
#

2min queues, mongo buttons, go agane

elfin surge
wary heart
#

lmfao

#

is that real?

elfin surge
#

ye

#

maldiva just got perma banned on twitch

inner elbow
#

maldiva based

#

baseddiva

wary heart
#

to think it wasnt the RMT that got him, but this

#

someones gotta have a clip of what he said

unique fox
#

Should have known better than to talk about anything related to that on twitch which is ran by blue hairs lol

woeful solstice
#

situational awareness much

#

twitch is literally ran by bluehair they/them

sharp meteor
quick carbon
#

lmfao based

daring dew
#

how u get the elite battle chest of the onyx crucible?

#

or just the item in the general? i see a lot of players using it, is it conquest reward?

sharp meteor
daring dew
#

yeah 🙂

sharp meteor
#

You get a single piece of tier for free after reaching 1600 cr

#

or ksm/aotc.

daring dew
#

aaaahhh

#

oke

sharp meteor
#

You can grab it now or wait until vault and hope to get 2pc or w/e.

daring dew
#

thx!

#

where do i receive it after getting 1600?

stark reef
# elfin surge

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why you do not livestream yourself for 8 hours straight.

sharp meteor
#

Local gamer asked about his thoughts on women and/or minorities (impossible challenge)

stark reef
#

🤣

#

Especially with the 30min queues now - some real hot takes in the oven over at twitch

toxic stratus
#

Is fury still turbo shit Ala the pins.

void slate
#

hey i have a question as a new arms war. what crafted gear should i use

fresh valve
tawny brook
sharp meteor
#

Here we go. deadge

woeful solstice
#

🌈

fresh valve
#

these ppl live rent free in his head lol

stark reef
kind sentinel
#

does anyone else feel like they get bullied in a triple caster lobby

stark reef
#

(Also did get unbanned the next day because the recipe isn’t all that bad)

woeful solstice
#

beans and toast is trash bro

#

pls

stark reef
#

Not getting baited

tawny brook
# fresh valve why do you give a fuck lol

I only give a shit about lgbt people and their targeting of children. I’m just saying the “if you don’t love trannies it means you want to fuck them” is some crazy degenerate pervert level retardation

stark reef
#

But it wasn’t beans and toast

woeful solstice
#

T R A S H

stark reef
#

Not taking the bait, I know what you’re doing

woeful solstice
#

"hey lets take bread and put even more nasty carbs right on top of it"

lean burrow
stark reef
#

No

fresh valve
#

I forgot buster lives on the internet

obsidian loom
#

There's no mods here

stark reef
#

It was the bot

woeful solstice
#

mods are asleep post bench

tawny brook
stark reef
#

The bot insta booted me

woeful solstice
#

fucking AIs taking our jobs man smh

obsidian loom
#

365 orm

#

Freedom units