pvp

[visual river]

For me it’s a skill issue, so yea fury is better in solo for me haha

[ruby temple]

I enjoy arms and it's what I've only ever pvped on but I like the idea of the fury dream

[visual river]

Fury is straight zugzug, finding arms very slow fights and I’m getting kited a lot

Fury if you and your team can survive the initial 1.5mins , wait for avatar and reck to come back it’s a 90% win

And you just hold it until you can use it on minimum 2 people , abuse the whirlwind stacks, caster/range target falls over fast on that second cd burst

[ruby temple]

Is the onslaught build in pins still a good start point?

[visual river]

This one, it isn’t pinned yet but was very helpful

I’m running slaughterhouse, enduring rage, disarm in melee comps / bloodrage against hunters shamans / battle trance if they’re training me first 2 rounds

Also I’m running shockwave cos it’s fun

[ruby temple]

I'll probably make 2 copies of that fury build with or without shockwave if there is a ww monk or something on my team I feel like we'll just be dr'ing each other hard

[elfin surge]

Had a 37 win streak in 2s today

FURY GAMING

[ruby temple]

Running the above build Mud?

[boreal stone]

you are not him mud

42-0 or it didnt happen

[visual river]

Share talents please 🙂

[elfin surge]

i do it with healers from lfg

anyways

magnus is 42-0

im 42-0 vs him

😎

[boreal stone]

@winged thistle thoughts?

[elfin surge]

@winged thistle

[boreal stone]

He bouta wield both of us like an arcanite ripper lol

[elfin surge]

my little bro mag

hates this cord

[boreal stone]

cant blame him, got some characters in here

[elfin surge]

[visual river]

Nice that’s what I run, I have an extra point on fury in that execute column

[boreal stone]

shockwave 🤮

[mild thunder]

[elfin surge]

Shockwave

[mild thunder]

Shockwave feels too fun

[ruby temple]

I know I'ma sound like a boomer but it's really weird people who want to play SMF have to dump so many points into it. Just for it to be weaker*

[mild thunder]

It’s gonna get nerfed back to how it was

[boreal stone]

buff raging blow

BT build is some ass

[visual river]

Having a second stun is just awesome, DH style for emergency interupt

kick fear, enrage the second fear, spell reflect something, shockwave his chaos bolt lolol

[mild thunder]

Ngl I feel like the rb build is better than annihilator

Onslaught feels great to use too

[boreal stone]

it feels great, but annihilator is better still

esp with tier set

[mild thunder]

And you can’t stack your tier set for burst if you’re using annihilator

I’d say tier makes annihilator worse

[visual river]

Too many buttons for a classic zugger, fury is like 3 buttons right now can’t handle a 4th

[tawny brook]

Right now on murlok annihilator is 45/50

[visual river]

Will probably change when people get the 4set, hold out from bloodthirsting until much later but this fucks your survivability a bit

[mild thunder]

Anni defs more popular… iirc it was Smexxin(?) running the AM onslaught build

Rb build definitely hits harder

[boreal stone]

tier set is already nerfed by 50%. theres no reason to stack it to max stats since it wont be enough damage to one shot. I get what ur saying, but fury is all about pressure/max dps, not one shot hits like arms.

[visual river]

Fury so strong right now with anni because every 3/5 buttons is probably bloodthirst, so much regen. You’re squishier if you hold bloodthirsty for a stronger burst blow

[mild thunder]

Doesn’t have to oneshot to be worthwhile burst. And even if you’re going for max pressure/dps, the rb build does that better

The anni build is good because of the sustain, not the dmg

[visual river]

4set will probably change fury to rb again

[boreal stone]

the thing is, if ur playing raging blow

[visual river]

Bloodthirsty does like 50% more damage against people 35% and less, it hurts and easy to use

[boreal stone]

u wont have talent points for bloodthirst

in the first place

[mild thunder]

You definitely still do

Rb doesn’t require much point investment

[boreal stone]

u def dont unless u drop all ur cleave talents

[mild thunder]

You still have points for bt and one point in ww

You don’t need both HnS and 3x rb

[visual river]

The only cleave in anni build right now is from your avatar whirlwind and your odyns fury whirlwind unless you take improved whirlwind

[boreal stone]

its a minimum of 7 points if u want every Bloodthirst modifier

[stark reef]

I can type again after getting banned for posting british cooking

Seeing my boy @mild thunder on the fury train now

[mild thunder]

1-2 points in Vicious contempt can be dropped

[stark reef]

Yeah, I tried vicious but no massacre felt weird

Still not sure tbh

[mild thunder]

Still hate it, still not gonna play it, but I’ll theorycraft

[stark reef]

That’s the spirit

[mild thunder]

I’d rather run my enh in 3s than fury

Enh/feral is juiced

[stark reef]

Enh seems busted

[ruby temple]

Feral is just fun to play though

[boreal stone]

could play something like this I guess:

[stark reef]

But don’t you need the upper right raging blow one for that?

[boreal stone]

it would be nice to have

but in order for the 4 set BT execute to be effective liek we're saying, sacrafices have to be made

could drop massacre as well I guess

[stark reef]

Yeah, I tried to do a non annihilator but it’s a big investment to get all raging blow stuff and tbh, not spamming bloodthirst makes fury a lot squishier so even if RB has better numbers you’re in dstance a lot

[boreal stone]

yeah, tahts the main issue. the tradeoff isnt worth it imo

[visual river]

I use that point above massacre, it’s really strong too

The cdr is nice I guess

But bloodthirst is basically an execute right now so the anni build

[stark reef]

Current R1 shuffle is running double proc trinket? No CC break. I feel like he might be onto something with the amount of micro cc and enraged regen being usable whilst stunned

[boreal stone]

could actually play this tbh:

[boreal stone]

u dont need gushing wounds imo

not having bloodborne is some ass tho ngl

[mild thunder]

nah, if im playing rb fury im playing something like this

some points can be moved around for ww

[stark reef]

There was a good fury build pinned called “onslaught hybrid”

I played that, massive dam but again, a lot less sustain

Still have it saved though

[mild thunder]

yea, that was pre much the one above but i think it was AM

and obv no cockwave back then

[stark reef]

Yeah, shockwave is amazing

Is he cooking or trolling?

[boreal stone]

U can skip some of the raging blow talents by jsut picking up hack and slash in the middle there

[mild thunder]

you'd never drop WnF in an rb build

that's troll

and yea HnS vs 3x rb is preference ig, you get pretty much full rb uptime regardless

[mild thunder]

this was the onslaught hybrid build, but the exe talents are mostly outdated without tier

[stark reef]

I see, yeah, damage was definitely good

Could run it if you know you’re not kill target

[mild thunder]

most of these builds just came from messing around with stuff for fun bec the anni build is just so brainrotting

i do think an rb/bt mixed build with onslaught is pretty good tho

[stark reef]

It definitely is, I refused to play it in PvE but pvp it allows me to focus on stuff like 2/3 man shockwave and stuff because rotation is on autopilot

[mild thunder]

and yea fury tier being nerfed by 50% isn't the end of the world, you still get a +125% bt that's pretty much a guaranteed crit

[stark reef]

I also am quite impressed by fury cleave

It’s not arms level but it’s no joke, especially on maps like bladesedge where people naturally cuddle up

[mild thunder]

only problem is fury cleave being hard-capped, so there's a solid chance if you're trying to cleave into demo teams that it's gonna get soaked before it reaches other players

they should just make hard-capped abilities prioritise players in pvp :/

[stark reef]

Yeah, I usually just run it into double meele with no pets

[mild thunder]

the amount of games my priests' fear on a demo lock/near a demo lock has been soaked by pets is retarded

thank fuck they uncapped it

[stark reef]

But these double dps trinkets - is that haram?

Or is that something people do more often? Never seen it

I mean the damage must be insane with all these procs

[mild thunder]

i feel like if you're gonna run 2x dps trinkets, just run the two honor ones

instead of dropping ilvl for 2 proc trinkets

[visual river]

I’m running the hp one and alacrity for extra survivability, people also choose to not train me because of it which helps hahaha

[stark reef]

I see - I’m intrigued, the guys winrate is pretty high, to

[visual river]

Are they human?

[mild thunder]

he certainly is cooking something

[stark reef]

Also has a weird build with onslaught over odyns

I just feel like that synergy of odyns + odyns giving attack speed/damage + battle trance is so much stats

He also runs rebound

[mild thunder]

rebound

[stark reef]

Yeah, might have just been the odd game out but everything on that guys page is a bit off

At least he runs shockwave

[vivid pumice]

fury worth playign again?

[stark reef]

Gonna be a lot closer once arms nerfs go live and tier also slight bump for fury

So I guess people are giving it a go to see

[visual river]

Fury is easy 1600👌

For the casuals like me

[stark reef]

Has rebound always double reflected? Thought it was just the damage amp

[mild thunder]

10.1 change

sham gets an immunity, feral gets free burst procs, rogue gets a 2nd evasion and we get... a rebound buff 😐

[stark reef]

I see - I mean it’s definitely gonna be a tilter for something like a destro lock but giving up a pvp talent slot, idk

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, not sure if I like the double reflect at the cost of the cd.

Too many things knock it off.

[mild thunder]

^

it should just reflect everything for 1-2s

so i dont get gimmicked by pets

[sharp meteor]

If it wasn't getting ripped off by entropic embrace or a wild imp firebolt then I'd be down.

but a lot of the time it just gets literally nothing

now your 20% magic wall is on a longer cd

[stark reef]

Yeah, and you’re giving up stuff like battle trance or banner as arms

[sharp meteor]

If into something that doesn't have an easy way of knocking it off I could see it feeling oppressive, especially if you've also got a shaman for grounds, etc

[stark reef]

Prob better into 1 caster than 2

Like 1 frostmage

But yeah, not sold on this one

But I’ll try the double dps trinket because I feel like the amount of micro cc makes trinket a drop in the bucket

Especially since you can use your wall during stuns

[visual river]

Would you hold the trinket to line it up with your avatar reck?

Since both give haste, in conq the second one gives crit.
Trinket and hp one both give static agi

[stark reef]

@visual river this is the set-up I am referring to

[visual river]

Ooh, interesting lol

[stark reef]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/area-52/ttvdjrio/

Yeah, it’s just one guy but clearly solid player so worth messing around with it to see

[visual river]

Hm is it a bug or is the previous tier trinket giving a lot more base str on proc?

I sold my prior trinket damnit lol

[stark reef]

So did I, you can item restore

[visual river]

I I I guessssss

[stark reef]

Just type WoW item restore into google, can restore 1 item free every 7 days

[visual river]

Oh is it 7 now? Was 14 before

[stark reef]

Yeah, 7

[visual river]

Cool that’s ok then maybe i will muck around with this

[tawny brook]

As human what is your opinion endurance training vs cruel strikes

Fury

[visual river]

ET. More stamina means more regen when bloodthirsting, makes you less likely the train target and also paves way for shockwave

[wispy drum]

Going entire lobbies without ever having a root dispelled.

https://tenor.com/view/omg-wtf-sokk-trauma-vidman-gif-13583512

[tawny brook]

These healers tonight will not move their lazy asses. Never had a night like this

Hugging first pole all match

Wish some matches had friendly fire

[visual river]

just looking at the fury tier pieces now after getting the 1600 token, i think shoulders tier should be one of the first pieces to achieve, it gives +400 mastery whilst sacrificing 300 versatility. Then maybe chest piece to gain back 500 versatility

[wispy drum]

I'm getting partners who refuse to sit on the same target as me.

I'll tell them to go on x and they'll start on y, I swap to y, they swap to x.

I'm so fucking confused right now.

[hot solstice]

wtf is fel barrage? why this passive does so much damage???

[visual river]

oh i asked this monk to help CC the enemy healer when he can so we can force his trinket and he laughed at me

Rofl fel barrage is a channel, it does AOE damage to anyone near the DH

[hot solstice]

I mean warlocks one

warlocks is passive

[visual river]

is that from the portal they summon ?

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=386344/inquisitors-gaze

[dark sparrow]

Yea that’s one of 3 they can get from portal summon

[fathom loom]

This haste/bleed hysteria doesnt feel good. Think I'm going crit...

[visual river]

Why do teammates fall over in 10 seconds on my team but suddenly become gladiator in the other? 😭

[urban skiff]

you'd have no way of knowing whether one or more people in solo shuffle were NPCs

[lean burrow]

is spell density in graphics settings important for arenas?

[urban skiff]

One of the settings is stupidly important for seeing enemy ground effects but no idea which one

[mortal gulch]

check out skill cappeds video about addons and ui, they go over the settings at the beginning

and they mention espeically ONE setting which must be enabled, all other stuff can be low

[lean burrow]

projected textures or something, i know

[clever dagger]

Hey guys i test atm and read a lot but is crit on ms war so useless rn?

[dark sparrow]

Yes

[steep inlet]

https://clips.twitch.tv/LivelyCrispyAppleDansGame-mp32qpKM0cXQWFzg

And they nerfed SkS kek

[vapid tartan]

jesus christ these triple caster lobbies are cancer

just dropped sks since i didnt have the uptime for it anyway xd

[lean burrow]

[river walrus]

Happened to me a few times. Had a frost mage once died on my team with both blocks and alter time up. Next round on enemy team guy kites and uses block like a pro

[lean burrow]

he was warming up

[vapid tartan]

I think maybe some people just aren’t adjusted well to 10.1 yet or are coming back after a break? Idk noticed the same thing aff lock on a glad mount, bro was literally standing in one spot 4 rounds in a row then started pumping last 2 rounds

[hot solstice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQdyAUkTq7s

well it was kinda a thing in sl too

what would u expect from 3min cd?

[steep inlet]

not trishot people ?

[hot solstice]

well they used no buttons lol

I doubt every game went like that

[worthy fern]

Apparently fury with new ench slaps

Haven’t tested myself yet

[hot solstice]

@steep inlet sorry they went the same https://clips.twitch.tv/KathishBlitheElephantMau5-67MRx_LBWcl74UFe

[bright stream]

@mild thunder you tried unholy this season?

its hysterically bad

[mild thunder]

havent tried any alts yet beside shaman in pve

[bright stream]

I've just been messin about with alts so far

all the stff I was keen to play is uhh

well my alts are; dk, mage, rogue

so looking pretty rough so far

[mild thunder]

rogue op af

uhdk got that zombie cheese atm too

[obtuse light]

Hey guys, quick question. Hows fury compared to arms

[ruby temple]

If you like fury play it

[obtuse light]

I mean is it much worse or comparable

[craggy geyser]

Fury is fun as fuck

Switched from arms running with disc priest in 2s and I’m shredding

[obtuse light]

Nice, thats nice to hear

i just cant seem to succeed with arms this expac :/

[craggy geyser]

Arms has its place but in 2s and 3s I’m doing real well with it

[river walrus]

Which enchants for fury are you using?

I am still using shopic devotion from last season

[iron fractal]

I think sophic devotion are still the go to weapon enchants for fury.

[desert otter]

What good embellishments should we be making

[mild thunder]

upgrade boots
anti-slow buff

precog can be a meme-craft if you run with a caster, but dont craft it before other stuff

[iron fractal]

Actually good question, what is the best pvp weapon enchant for fury/arms?

[river walrus]

I saw top 2 fury warriors on Solo Shuffle running frozen writ on main hand and sophic devotion/frozen devotion on second hand

[limber relic]

Ok lets aim for r1

Lego

Only 100 ratings to go

Rip, only r156 overall

[iron fractal]

When I simmed I got a 2% damage increase using x2 frozen devotion.

[limber relic]

Boosted?

I saw a guy playing demo lock struggling at 1800 soloshuffle s1

Had 1k+ games

Saw him today on s1 glad mount

😂😂😂

[worthy fern]

@iron fractal if you got gold try the new one

Shadow flame

[iron fractal]

Doesnt that hurt yourself?

[limber relic]

Not by much. Like 2k. U get it back in 1 bloodthirst

[iron fractal]

Can arms use it too?

[limber relic]

But the damage is a dot. So idk if its any good tbh

Anyone can but i doubt its any good on arms since slow autoattacks

Fury has faster autos i belive

[inner elbow]

i thought it only procs on spells, not autoattacks

[iron fractal]

3,5% damage increase when I sim it as fury.

I Wonder if it stacks or just get higher procc chance on two weapons.

On my arms build its a 1,6% damage increase.

[inner elbow]

fury has higher apm so thats why

[limber relic]

2+Haste Procs per minute.

What i read

Whatever that means

[iron fractal]

So it still might be better for both my arms and fury build.

[limber relic]

Ah so

The new enchant is 2 proc/min

Plus haste

[lean burrow]

what's warlock's burst? besides infernal

how do you know "lock is about to pump"?

I'm playing lock rn and I still don't know

[worthy fern]

@iron fractal it doesn’t scale off auto attacks it does off abilities used so I think if you have high apm it’s probably good

Fury outlaw enh etc

[iron fractal]

Could it work for arms too?

[south kestrel]

people running odyns fury or onslaught

[worthy fern]

@iron fractal no idea until someone try’s it out

They’re too expensive for me atm

[iron fractal]

I can only sim it so far.. and that shows dps improvement.

[teal cedar]

boots still best first spark usage?

[clever dagger]

some that can give me some tips about survive against ranges? i do so quick all the time and cant do dmg cause the kite me so hard even with slow not sure how to improve rn -.-

[clever dagger]

what you need from to help me 😄

[lean burrow]

why is this so funny

[frank knoll]

When will the catalyst thing have 4 charges available ?

[wanton wind]

Very new player here. When should I use ignore pain in pvp as opposed to offensive abilities? When is the right time to dedicate rage and a global to it?

[south kestrel]

when its not up

you can use it to fish for procs

[mortal gulch]

hey guys, i checked murlok.io and wanted to craft the foot piece which murlok.io suggests.

Do i need something else?

"infuse with power"?

i've put in trophy of conquest for ilvl 450.

[wanton wind]

I don't understand, sorry. When what isn't up, then do what?

[south kestrel]

When ignore pain isnt up, use it

Because you get procs from it

No brainer

[teal cedar]

for someone who has never played fury, is there a rotation/priority pinned somewhere?

[wanton wind]

So when it's not active, prioritize it above all else, because when it is active, there are talents down the line or something like that that give me procs from it?

[timber pine]

does anyone have a wrecking / shattering throw weakaura? I'm looking for something that will pop up when someone has an absorb on them

[wide fulcrum]

hi all- are there very diff talent tree choices we need to make if we are focussing on pvp? i am going by the icy veins load out currently. not sure where to get suggestions about pvp builds and talents. thanks

[torpid roost]

Yes, we have builds in the pins

[torpid roost]

It's a free 50% mitigation and it procs rage spend effects (like the overpower refresh) almost always, and puts it on CD now, rather than later, so if you get swapped on, you'll have more IP up sooner

[crystal tulip]

best thing about pvp is people in solo sitting at the same rating as everyone else in the lobby talking it up like they're hot shit

[river walrus]

I am struggling in lobbys with ferals, locks and boomys

[crystal tulip]

like bro of course i made a mistake, i'm as shit as you

[river walrus]

i just cant win those lobbys

[crystal tulip]

has anyone ever gotten a positive response from "hey fuck you retard play better" in the history of anything

[crystal tulip]

rating?

[wanton wind]

I see, thank you! So I'll use it asap upon getting into any fights

[river walrus]

1600

Why

[crystal tulip]

Just that if you were doing 2200 stuff my advice would probably be shit

i play fury now, and using charge for teleport and leap for gate works for me as a rule of thumb on warlocks

i can get decent uptime out of that

[tribal torrent]

"Sharpen Blade cooldown increased to 30 seconds and duration decreased by 2 seconds." so dumb

[crystal tulip]

and then reflecting fear when he uses undying

[river walrus]

Are you running enduring rage as pvp talent?

[crystal tulip]

bloodrage, battletrance

and slaughterhouse

[stark reef]

definitely recommending enduring rage for fury

very very strong talent

would run over bloodrage but i am also gnome so bloodrage is an overkill

Excited to try this with double DPS trinket for maximum sgl target action

Might even replace battle trance with rebound to see what the current R1 is all about

[wanton siren]

Why is the 2 handed sword not here?

[stark reef]

Changed back to Titan's Tornment

[wanton siren]

Did they legit not make an elite version of this?

[wheat jay]

they did

but they also did not implement it

[wanton siren]

Will they add it later on or nah?

I imagine someone already made a forum complaint about it

There legit isn't a 2hander appearance at all, the polearm is normally an agility weapon

[lean burrow]

i will ask holinka next time i grab a coffee with him

[stark reef]

no trinket def fkn awkward 🤣

[lean burrow]

what's the most meta classes rn to get rival first

already got on shaman and lock, what's next

[woeful solstice]

holy fuck i cannot find a sword to match s2 elite mog

i cant play while looking ugly

[urban skiff]

devoker

[sweet solstice]

do dhs just outdps the shit out of arms or am i doing smth terribly wrong?

[woeful solstice]

arms dps is kinda lower compared to some of the top damaging* classes but it has better utillity

still easily the best melee rn pre-nerf

like sure you wont top the damage meters every game but you are providing way more pressure in terms of mortal strike, sharpen, sks burst windows, etc.

[urban skiff]

i wish scoreboard showed prevented healing as well

[sharp meteor]

There's a green (conquest) and blue (elite) version in the files but hasn't been implemented.

[near delta]

[wanton siren]

Waiting for trade center to host them I guess 🙃

[near delta]

Not having a 2h sword for the elite mogs in general is so dumb

[wanton siren]

Idk how they fuck up a recolor

They used to make unique shit for PvP

[stark reef]

Evoker is busted

Glad they addressed this

Rebound though seems not to bad after all

Some big reflects showing up now

[thick reef]

Is anyone else unable to manage their talents after entering arena (queue'd as arms) but if you were in world as Fury, you can't change talents

[teal hedge]

Horde players are actually the scum of the earth

Not a single one has faced me one on one

Even casters

[urban skiff]

huh?

what are we hoping to see in vault? Weapon? Tier?

[teal hedge]

Hit-and-run tactics, they fear the mushroom

[craggy geyser]

What trinkets should I run as orc for Fury?

Medallion / Insignia?

[pale minnow]

aight 1st game of solo q : 2k mmr while i'm on 0 cr xd

we face here a cheeser

and why tf everyone has bigger hp then me?

[stark reef]

sub rogue is nasty

wtf

[pale minnow]

@elfin surge bro where u got that chest from even?

[elfin surge]

My tier piece?

[woeful solstice]

mud why did you buy a tier piece before vault

[elfin surge]

why does it matter

[hollow jacinth]

does moving the point in shockwave to bitter immunity make sense when going up against locks?

[elfin surge]

ill be full geared by the end of the season

when qs matter

[woeful solstice]

tru

[lavish quest]

So why does arms execute have a cooldown now? lol

[hollow jacinth]

I'm still really new to warrior, but I think the answer to your question is that the talent point improved execute removes the cd

[woeful solstice]

just take this

[lavish quest]

Oh there's a talent for it, didn't notice woops lol

Thank you

[mortal gulch]

when to use whirlwind in pvp?

[green anchor]

When you're actually spec'd to it

[mortal gulch]

i'm a newbie (arms) warrior, i guess it's not specced as a arms?

[coral quarry]

hey is the onyx ring still bis for pvp?

[stark reef]

no

[pale minnow]

yeah, where u got that from?

[elfin surge]

you get a tier piece for free for reaching 1600cr

[pale minnow]

sounds like troll, but not an issue will find out soon

[pale minnow]

in any bracket?

[elfin surge]

yeah any bracket

or 2k rating in m+

aotc

but 1600cr in arena is for pvpers

to get the tier token

[pale minnow]

ah ok so even solo counts, btw why u play fury?

[elfin surge]

fury broken

arms getting nerfed

[stark reef]

This build slaps

Boy oh boy

[stiff dust]

haste or mastery for fury ?

[stark reef]

playing mastery atm

[stiff dust]

full?

[stark reef]

yeah

[stiff dust]

ok ty

[stark reef]

@elfin surge thoughts on rebound?

I tried it but not running battle trance feels shit

[urban skiff]

slaps how much?

[elfin surge]

poop

[stark reef]

[inner elbow]

wouldnt berserkers torment be better with this?

cuz no odyns fury

[stark reef]

no

that burst hit's like apeshit

onslaught into macro

[urban skiff]

I see a fellow cultured ape

[ruby temple]

hey guys when gemming is it better to go for vers or haste in neck? (arms)

[lean burrow]

i'm gonna do it

[urban skiff]

Are there any purestat gems? You can get gems with mixed stats, 70 vers + 33 haste

[lean burrow]

i'm gonna say the n word

nnn-n

nnnnnnnnn-n-n-n-n-n

nnnitro

[ruby temple]

their is a pure vers gem. would it be better then to do vers/haste then?

[lean burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/lamar-gif-21113388

[stark reef]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBYeSpo4ciQ&ab_channel=SportMantric

[urban skiff]

when do you droar? after the onslaught?

[stark reef]

macro

#showtooltip Recklessness
/use 14
/cast Recklessness
/cast Avatar
/cast Thunderous Roar

onslaught - macro

[urban skiff]

so swifty macro -> onslaught?

[stark reef]

MATE

read

[magic wing]

Romania looks to be worthy of a visit

[teal hedge]

This is how they get you; your wallet will be gone within moments.

[stark reef]

First 0/6 lobby at 1950 vs. dvoker, feral, unholy dk

[magic wing]

Im from Prague, no shot Romania has more thieves

[stark reef]

Big fkn yikes

[urban skiff]

Sorry, was trying to do a fury = ape joke but i forgot

[coral quarry]

is there any good in pursuing any piece of PvE gear (like the raid tier sets) or should I focus solely on being fully equiped with conquest gear?

[urban skiff]

Can you get pve pieces that are at least ilvl 437?

[coral quarry]

I may get like a 2-piece heroic tier bonus if next week

[iron fractal]

Oof, can't decide if I should do solo shuffle as arms or fury.

[coral quarry]

but I'm thinking like, in 6 weeks, should the top players use a 4-piece raid tier or be in full conquest gear

[river walrus]

Shit man, I would go 0-6 as well, feral is broken and dvoker is too hard for keep uptime

[teal hedge]

Arms is unironically the strongest melee spec rn

[edgy prism]

what build is the best to choose from the pinned post for some pleb alt warrior between 1800 and 2100?

[teal hedge]

It'll remain like that until the nerf drops next reset.

[stark reef]

Dvoker being CC/slow immune with that amount of mobility really is a fkn paintrain

[teal hedge]

Yeah, Dvoker SUCKS as a targetr

[woeful solstice]

shoulda been the UHDK going 0-6

are you fury?

[stark reef]

Yeah

[woeful solstice]

rip

fury loses to dk

bad

ive noticed

[stark reef]

I tried to go evoker/feral respectively but got kited way to hard with DK grips

Can't CC evoker, get gripped 15 times, rooted, stunned

Damage was shit every round

[woeful solstice]

gotta wait for slappy hands to be down then swap but yeah

not gonna be fun

[stark reef]

I feel like I have to go dk in that case but letting evoker just do his thing sounds rough

[woeful solstice]

yes id hit dk

they are bad against physical dmg

disarm when low too and gg

[stark reef]

Yeah, def can blow up a DK - next time I go dk every round

[woeful solstice]

if he has to spend rp deathstriking

its over

[stark reef]

I used to be fine going evoker but noticing no warbringer

Can't really get his shroud off

You think going warbringer into evoker worth it?

Just to get rid of shroud?

[woeful solstice]

yeah

i dont see the wb nerf being THAT bad

it just kinda made other picks more viable

brought it in line with the others lol

im also trash so dont listen to me

[stark reef]

nah, this is good stuff - felt ultra-useless that lobby but I think I know what to try next time

Evoker in general feels way stronger than last season

[teal hedge]

Arms is super-duper cool

I'm gonna stick with it

Fury is actually just gonna make my synapses regress into those of a newborn child

[urban skiff]

not only can i not kill devokers easy. I also cannot kite warriors when i play mine

[spice hornet]

Bm hunter is untouchable

[teal hedge]

Krill issue, I'm afraid

[dark sparrow]

I feel like dvekoker should never be your kill target, freecast or not he will just zoom around anyway and pump

[urban skiff]

fake him out so he wastes hover and the just los

repeat twice and he'll have nothing left

[urban skiff]

you weren't kidding. 1v2'd a rogue and moonkin. 84k onslaughts is hillarious

noncrit

thought I'd feel like i'm missing OF but I don't

[stark reef]

Getting this impression right now

3 lobbies in a row, can’t stick to them, my damage goes down the drain and they’re top damage anyways

[stark reef]

Same dam minus the bleed but 1/3 the cd

Def much more sgl target than OF

Even worse - if you don’t have uptime your sustain goes down the drain, to

No battle trance, no bloodthirst healing

[urban skiff]

and twice the rage

[stark reef]

• another source of reck

[urban skiff]

so 6x rage per second, assuming no reck procs ever

does onslaught benefit from the enrage it procs? Like rampage?

[stark reef]

I’d assume so

[warm portal]

I tried it one game it still feels like dogshit

[stark reef]

Yeah, I think just trying to ignore Evoker

Pop CDs when they pop theirs and pray

Definitely feels like the most frustrating to play against/with atm

[urban skiff]

Go barbarian and yeet out of there when they pop cds

100% damage mitigation

[iron fractal]

Beautiful to lose 0-6 because you get match making against 1800 when you have 480..

[urban skiff]

my first match was MMR 2k, 1750 CR castercleave for some absurd reason

I was never any good, no idea why it decided to toss me to the wolves right away

I'm 3 wins out of 12 this season in solo shuffle

[iron fractal]

My favorite part is the demon hunter being toxic and calling me "so bad" when everyone refuses to talk when I ask who do we target.

[stark reef]

Just spam games and take note on what went wrong - don't get queue-anxiety

[iron fractal]

What went wrong was the ones that kept using hurriance on my target I was bursting on..

[woeful solstice]

yeah asking people who to kill is not warrior mentality

[iron fractal]

"Oh the warrior is bursting and almost killing someone.. lets use hurricane on it"

[urban skiff]

Chase nearest caster regardless of who else is present. That is true ape mentality

[iron fractal]

Gonna try some arms again instead of fury.

[urban skiff]

Did you try the onslaught build yet?

[woeful solstice]

every single fury i went against today i dumpstered

as arms

[iron fractal]

I'm running with the Annihilator build atm.

[woeful solstice]

2k mmr solos

[stark reef]

Yeah, rn arms clearly ahead but not sure if that stays that way post nerfs

[woeful solstice]

it will

[stark reef]

You still have max sks so you’re basically as strong as last season

[woeful solstice]

sharpen nerf sucks but our damage profile being shifted into bleeds is going to be very oppressive

[stark reef]

Also, fury has less testing so people might run suboptimal builds into a comp even if they’re good players

[woeful solstice]

i might even drop SKS after tuesday

EP/Fatality/Unhinged all back on the menu

[stark reef]

I think it’ll still be good since it’s just 1 point and you’re going max bleed anyways

Might as well run it for the extra button

[iron fractal]

The Proving solo quest.

Can I wait to turn it in until next week?

Or will it disappear on the reset?

[woeful solstice]

no

[urban skiff]

why would you save it? It gives a spark if you haven't gotten one yet this week

[iron fractal]

No, Proving solo is the "Do 12 rounds of solo shuffle"

Gives some honor and qonquest

[urban skiff]

oh, yeah no hand that crap in asap

[mortal gulch]

Newbie Warrior here. Are Arena 1,2,3 Makros a thing for warriors? Which abilities make sense?

[urban skiff]

intervene and that's about it

for friendlies

[mortal gulch]

Understood. What’s about mouseover Markos? I like it for charge for example.

[urban skiff]

storm bolt, kick, charge, and shattering throw i guess for enemies? I don't really use those macros

[mortal gulch]

Yes

That’s how I set it up

[urban skiff]

i use mouseover for storm bolt and kick, and intervene. on top of having regular buttons, not as a replacement

[mortal gulch]

I use it usually as 2 way Makro: mouseover or target

So I only have one keybind for both

[urban skiff]

Another useful macro:
#showtooltip
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/use [@cursor] !heroic leap

leap right away instead of having to point

[mortal gulch]

Thanks, already using this with cursor but without the cancel aura

Thx

Does it make sense to cancel blade storm when I could execute?

[dapper cypress]

arms war vs druid dh
should i stay on dh?
tried to stay on druid, always running away

[stark reef]

Druid, yeah

If it’s feral cleave and hit who’s closest

If boomy, don’t swap

[dapper cypress]

somehow im getting kited really hard

vs druids hunters mages

always slowing jumping behind etc...

[iron fractal]

Using war banner?

[unique fox]

If you waste any mobility against druid/hunter/mage you lose automatically pretty much

Make sure you're watching shit like master's call so you dont charge whilst they still have the freedom buff

[vapid tartan]

Is Barbarian worth taking into triple caster lobby? Like double mage lock

Was thinking can drop battle trance since the uptimes not really gonna be there anyway

[worthy fern]

Barbarian isn’t really great except for open world and bgs

Say they don’t use back to back mobility on you

You have wasted a pvp talent

I’d take blood rage

Into mage

Or something

[stark reef]

Yeah, fury pvp talents are so good, you’d never want one that even risks being a dead node

Same for arms tbh

Really hard to argue taking out battle trance or enduring rage just due to the raw stats it gives you every single round

Rebound is really nice for example but you’ll have games where you reflect a frost shock from a resto shaman or a pet spell and there goes the talent + whatever you could have had instead

[unique fox]

Wasnt rebound 3 spells originally?

[stark reef]

Was 1

Now 2

I’ve had it be second damage after rampage but you just never know

Still think it’s best into 1 caster + meele if caster is also kill target

But not sure what to drop - feeling like enduring rage?

Dropped battletrance but that’s to much sustain gone

You’d basically hope for the deflects to do more harm to the kill target than extra reck which I think is very possible

[stark reef]

@unique fox funnily enough this was vs enhance - forgot to swap it

Something reflected on them for 150k

[iron fractal]

500 rating.. and I keep getting a match making of 1700 - 1800.

[dapper cypress]

Is arms disc viable? Or should i go with monk/druid?
When i play with disc priest and have mirror
Somehow my disc is dropping faster then the other one, it doesnt matter that im having more dmg

[unique fox]

I played disc arms up to 2100 in 2;s last season, you do huge dam with dark arch goes

[woeful solstice]

because MMR =/= CR

game thinks you should be 1800

[iron fractal]

Oh.. so its complimenting me?

[woeful solstice]

lol yeah but if you keep losing its gonna drop

[iron fractal]

First time doing solo shuffle ever, winning 5-1 x2 at the start probably pushed it up a bit.

[woeful solstice]

yep

[iron fractal]

But Arms seemed to do better for me than fury.

Even did x2 overall damage than another fury warrior in my latest game.

[visual river]

trying this out now, first impressions it severely lacks any cleave

[stark reef]

Oh, it’s 100% sgl target

I have a different build for cleave

[woeful solstice]

overall damage =/= effective dmg

dont get it twisted

im sometimes lowest dmg on my games but winning haha

[visual river]

but the half cd of odyns fury seems to make up for it.. but you lose mini avatar, tough decisions lol

[woeful solstice]

like i was the lowest dps last match but i went 6-0

[visual river]

and you lose 25% damage of bloodthirst which i dont really like

[stark reef]

25% if target is sub 35%

[iron fractal]

Oh I was quite effective too I Think, had most killing blows.

[visual river]

just means you did well mechanically instead of dps. Had a sub rogue literally do 14k dps and lowest damage but won 5-1 in one of my previous games, fucking unkillable

[iron fractal]

A warlock was top dps but I Felt he was actually the least of our worries.

The ret paladin was the big oofer.

But probably gonna wait with solo shuffle until wednesday. Waiting 40 minutes to get match making with people way above me is draining. 🥲

[visual river]

love it when you finish your 30-40min queue for the healer to afk out, back into the queue you go

coming up to 29mins right now, had someone not accept queue 15mins ago i am "front of the queue" still

[dark sparrow]

Yea pretty normal for arms to be like lowest of all dps but still winning due to effective pressure

[spring ibex]

Are we supposed to be going over 30% vers into DR or should I stop at 30% for arms?

[dark sparrow]

You can go over 30% without any issues, it’s more personal preference

Man I Full capped my first warr as arms but I think ima go cap second warr as fury just so I can learn it a bit more if it does end up overtaking later

And just have 1 arms and 1 fury warr

But ngl I hated fury gameplay when it was actually broken S++ tier, gameplay is soooo boring

[woeful solstice]

finally got checked with a 1-5

[stark reef]

Against what classes?

I got 5/1, was top 20 for fury, then 0/6

[woeful solstice]

DH, Destro and...

fury

[stark reef]

Hehehe

[woeful solstice]

[stark reef]

I don’t think many actually good warriors are playing it on the ladder yet since arms is clearly busted

[woeful solstice]

right

itll get popular on tuesday

ill set one of my 4 warriors up as fury

[stark reef]

I’m a fast learner but there is zero reason i should be front page

[woeful solstice]

im like rank 70 right now for arms

[stark reef]

At 2100?

[woeful solstice]

couple more good lobbies should put me in top 25

my mmr is 2070 but cr is like 1925

i think Rio is the only warrior above 2200 right now

[stark reef]

I see, fury I was 1947 which was #19

[woeful solstice]

oh dang yeah fury definitely a bit more deflated

[stark reef]

So arms has much more people higher

[rare oak]

What makes arms so busted right now?

[stark reef]

Same thing it was last season - very well rounded with high numbers across the board

[rare oak]

Ah right, what makes fury worse now then?

[surreal zephyr]

How much is the ~25% nerf to SKS burst gonna hurt do you think?

[stark reef]

Other classes might do one thing better but arms can adjust, peel, high burst, tanky, etc

[stark reef]

Probably S tier to A+?

Still very good

[surreal zephyr]

In other words not a big deal lol. Got it

I feel for Fury; ever since the slaughterhouse change it's felt uphill.

[rare oak]

Sorry im not familiar with the SKS acronym?

[surreal zephyr]

Skullsplitter. It when talented turns your bleeds into burst

Hits real meaty

[rare oak]

Oh right yeah I run that build just never seen it written as SKS.

[stark reef]

Right now undisputed best meele, after, very very good meele with stuff like enh, etc.

[rare oak]

Also most of the arms warrior's i've seen have been going haste>mastery, is that correct or am I being jebaited

[stark reef]

Correct

[rare oak]

Nice. I took a break from arms to try a bit of fury.

[stark reef]

Sub rogue seems very strong

[torpid roost]

Rogue (sub and assa) are super good at very low skill and very high skill

And trash in between

[stark reef]

Sub just doesn’t die and burst seems very strong

I mean it doesn’t seem unbalanced, just surprisingly strong/viable

Only thing that feels unfun rn is dvoker - not because it’s winning all rounds but it randomly kills people and randomly dies so rounds just feel wack

[visual river]

Haha that’s so true , die unexpected if your whole team stacks or else it’s an easy kill on them

[spring ibex]

Not a fan of the clunkyness of the sks build so I went back to just running the old roar build and its still pumping

[visual river]

Considering the nerf to sks but buff to the bleeds it might be better off just doing exactly that
But then you’re just a plate feral

[craggy geyser]

Or go fury 🤔 lol

[spring python]

So whats the reasoning behind taking Shockwave now?

[stark reef]

2sec to 3sec stun

Very disruptive

Landing double or even tripple stuns can end rounds right there but also allows you to bolt healer and shockwave kill target without second thought

[spring python]

Makes sense

funny how 1 second makes a big deal

[stark reef]

One second that can affect uncapped amounts of targets - even pets

Shockwave into fear takes pets out of the game for 8 seconds straight

[sonic parcel]

Can I quit this talent and get other choice?

[stark reef]

Yes

[sonic parcel]

I want to switch it with

[stark reef]

Yeah, sounds good

[craggy geyser]

how can we look up a players pvp rating right now

without being able to inspect obviously

[sonic parcel]

With addons

[sonic parcel]

I think one for that is called "arena master" correct me if I'm wrong

[craggy geyser]

no website for it?

[obsidian loom]

are we fury meta now?

[sonic parcel]

I think it has an website too

I think they always be

But this time anihilator with the new tier isn't worth enough

Use ragging blow in my opimion

Btw fury execute deaceirion it's bad wrote? It says 70k dang but it only deals 35k

Description

I'm on the dummy

[stark reef]

Definitely not meta but some genuine interest/Theorycrafting happening

[spring python]

Do we even bother upgrading the crafted gear? Boots/helm

[visual river]

Boots yes, Helm maybe later but likely seeing as the new melee embelish is kinda lackluster

[frail badge]

for fury is odyns fury or onslaught better iyo?

[stark reef]

Odyns for cleave, onslaught for sgl target based on my testing

[frail badge]

ok thank you, is there anything else to switch talent wise if i swap the between the two for them to work?

[stark reef]

Yes

If you’re just getting started focus on sgl target first, that’s where fury really shines

[frail badge]

ok thanks

[stark reef]

Cleave is more of a cope to keep up in a lobby where everyone cleaves

[frail badge]

this is what i have, is there anything i should change?

[stark reef]

Looks super solid

1 run that with 1 point from vicious into massacre

[frail badge]

ok thanks i changed it

[stark reef]

Yeah, I think those extra executes are worth it

[frail badge]

feels way more easy to play with better surviabilty then arms so far, but only have tried fury in skirmish so far compared to my 1600 in solo as arms

[visual river]

I feel keeping vicious is better, it turns your bloodthirsty into an execute too

[stark reef]

Unsure about Sidearm vs Footwork - currently running sidearm but if the kiting keeps being a pain point I’ll swap

[frail badge]

i have tried arms without it and i cant get used to not having it

[visual river]

That point before wrecking/shattering throw seems kinda useless I usually don’t pick that either nowadays

[frail badge]

feels to good to give it up

[stark reef]

Yeah, def feels bad to be slower

[visual river]

Enjoying bitter immunity macrod with defensive stance

[frail badge]

frothing you mean? seems pretty good? maybe sidearm would be better?

[stark reef]

I would not macro a 3min CD into your stances unless you’re really just getting comfortable with the basics

It’s better than not using it but not by much

[visual river]

I haven’t needed to do it often but it’s a nice oh shit button

[stark reef]

Yeah, then keep it and adjust later

[visual river]

I have berserker macrod with my avatar recking

[stark reef]

The madlad

[frail badge]

this is my macro /cast Recklessness
/cast Avatar
/cast Thunderous Roar

found it in here earlier today

[stark reef]

Oh wait, so you swap on casting the cd, not the cd on the stance - that’s fine

I thought every time you pop dstance you also pop bitter immunity

[south kestrel]

Are people using onslaught when theres less roots?

Or is it just better in general

[frail badge]

what does onslaught have to do with roots?

[south kestrel]

Odyns fury breaks roots?

Which is the alternative

[frail badge]

does it? i did not know that

[south kestrel]

Haha

Because it procs avatar

doesnt break it by itself

[visual river]

If you take both points yes

[frail badge]

oh i have not played fury since bfa

[visual river]

Or you use blood rage

PvP talent

[stark reef]

I am gnome

[ruby temple]

just had my first 1-5 lobby as arms. felt like a real dumb ass was against a balance, ww, ret. Just getting rooted and slowed like a dumb ass felt like even when I did touch them my damage wasnt doing shit RIParino

[near brook]

I started using onslaught after recently switching from odyns fury and feel like my sustained pressure is way better. Not really missing the root break from it in most match ups

And it trucks people if you get a crit during cds

[stark reef]

Any reason why I can't make a public crafting order?

[visual river]

is it a recraft?

reaslly fucking annoying i havent found anyone on my server to recrafty my boots because alliance trade is dead

[stark reef]

Yeah, same

And yeah, recraft, doesn't even give me the option to do public

[visual river]

yes recraft is only guild or personal crafting, its really dumb

[lean burrow]

stuck on hunter at 1.6k

again

[obsidian loom]

hunter has so many fucking buttons

[lean burrow]

S-tier spec my ass

[stark reef]

Rebound into DH/Destro/Mistweaver

171k shadowburn

[woeful solstice]

skill issue

[frail badge]

32 min in a 19 min queue waiting to play my first solo as fury

wtf

[visual river]

YEA It sucks man

i mine and herb in the downtime but its kinda draining

[frail badge]

if you were to tell anyone in any other game that this how long you gota wait to play they would laugh at you and say the game is shit

really considering not resubbing in 9 days as pvp is the only thing i still enjoy in wow

[stark reef]

Best queues during weekday working hours tbh

Rn 30min, to

Gotta do other stuff in queues

[royal rose]

Please someone explain to me how arms got nerfed but boomkins can still double our damage and be impossible to kill lol

and blizz said naaah they're fine

[obsidian loom]

you havent met a devastation evoker post buff that knows what they're doing

also ele's getting a 3% buff

ion loves his OP carrousel

[royal rose]

Makes no sense

[stark reef]

[obsidian loom]

im almost sure that dev evokers are getting too many ticks on disintegrate

[stark reef]

It just feels shit to play with/against

[royal rose]

It's just nuts because druids dont have to cast at all lol. It was against 2 melee granted but all the damage comes from thorns and insta cast... absolute no skill lol

[obsidian loom]

i think the real issue is that disc's are meta

mindblast instead of painsup and im dead

thanks man

this 2k dps really helped when you're behind by 2mil hps

[royal rose]

I didnt realize thorns did so much damage

this druid did 550k damage in just thorns in 1 round lmao

[stark reef]

Man, i just had healers derp so hard - went 3/1 in 4 rounds, then healer says "easy win" and just runs in, fistweaver, engages first vs. ret/hunt, gets oneshot

Then tilts and throws last match

"Rating unchanged"

[obsidian loom]

the bs will clear out by week 4

ladder needs some separation

[stark reef]

Oh yeah, that was probably the most brain afk play i've seen this season

[candid citrus]

so is the cloak the go to crafted item after boots?

[royal rose]

This just feels like a legion DH situation for casters, very little skill required to put out crazy numbers.

[obsidian loom]

cloak is going to get nerfed

for sure

i'd give it time to see

[stark reef]

🤣

[frail badge]

out of the 2 dps warrior specs, dh dps, dev evoker, and twop ranged hutner specs, which has the leaset about of buttons and keybinds you need to use in order if you happen to know?

[obsidian loom]

DH

actually bm hunter

its just barbed shot

you literally hit one button and kill command when it lights up

[frail badge]

but overall though, doesnt dh and dev evoker have less buttons if you take in account every avalible skill? maybe im wrong though

[obsidian loom]

devoker is a bit more skill than DH imo

dh is pretty brain dead yeah

both can die pretty fast if you sperg and use all your defensives at once

[frail badge]

ok thanks, i have played warrior and dh before in bfa and shadowlands and am playing warrior now and was going to level up an another class when the 50% exp buff buff hits with the upcoming diablo 4 wow event

was considering dh dev evoker or hunter

[obsidian loom]

bm is exceedingly brain dead

[frail badge]

ill prop lv all 3 up as there all lv 60 already and with 50% exp it should be easy to get to 70

[obsidian loom]

DH is similar to warrior with zug zug

[frail badge]

yeah dh was always the most simple to understand and do well for me

i have autism and adhd and ocd and the more complicated something is in this game the worse i perform sometimes even tho warrior is not as complicated as some other classes people say i still get overwhelmed a lot with it

its just been a real stuggle this expac comapred to when i played fury and got 1800 s1 in bfa

i feel like there a lot more keybinds now

[obsidian loom]

they unpruned classes

so most classes have a lot of things to hit

[frail badge]

i loved the gameplay and and feel of rogue but i tried that in shadowlands and it was super hard to pay attention too

[frail badge]

yeah i forgot about that, i guess thats why dh and evoker have less keybinds as they are newer classes

[south kestrel]

lobby into sp, frost mage and destro lock

cool....

cant do shit

[elfin surge]

New mud mog?

[south kestrel]

mud how tf do you survive as fury against a full caster comp just unloading the whole game lol

[elfin surge]

in what

shuffle?

[south kestrel]

yeah

[elfin surge]

ah

its simple

i just dont q shuffle

[south kestrel]

fair point

[frail badge]

sorry i might of asked you before but i dont remember, if my only goal is 1800 for transmog, would 2s or solo be faster?

[south kestrel]

Just got absolutely rinsed, couldnt do much - was LoSing for healer and was just never really topped

so dunno

[elfin surge]

Prob shuffle?

Depends i guess

if u have previous exp finding 2s healers might be easier

than sitting shuff

[frail badge]

well im 1600 already in shuffle as arms, so maybe ill stick with it

i hated lfg every past expac, only reason i came back was solo q

[south kestrel]

shuffle can be annoying

feel like 2s is harder though

[elfin surge]

if ur already 1600 then 1800 should be easy for you once inflation takes a hold

[frail badge]

what does that mean and when would that happen if you happen to know please

[elfin surge]

every week

blizzard injects mmr

to the brackets

to naturally inflate ratings

thats why the top players last ssn ended 3600

and are pushing 2400

now

inflation has been reset with the new ssn

[south kestrel]

Game = naturally harder until then

[elfin surge]

i hope the ratings arent as insane as last seasons

[frail badge]

OK thanks. Thanks makes a lot of sense as to why I had easier times getting 1800,in bfa and s1 this expac because I would always join and start playing later or near the end of the season

This is the first ever season that I started fully pvp geared day one

[fresh valve]

make 3's inflate to 3600

[elfin surge]

they did in unchained

EU was 3800

[frail badge]

Correct me if I'm wrong as I never pvped and I wasto young to fully understand the game at the time, but didn't bc and wrath have crazy high ratings also?

[elfin surge]

in 3s

[fresh valve]

glad system was different back then

[frail badge]

Thanks what I hear a lot of people say

[fresh valve]

it was based off what percentage of players you were in rank wise

[frail badge]

I only ever got decent and got my first 1800 during bfa, before then I never put as much time into it as I was more into pve then

[fresh valve]

after last season im all for free glad mounts

[elfin surge]

Last ssn 3s inflated pretty hard at the end

[south kestrel]

got 1800 last season, wanna try get 2100 for the enchant this time

[fresh valve]

too late to normalize shit

[elfin surge]

This ssn enchant is GOOOD

[south kestrel]

Ikr

but its gunna take a lot to get to 2100

dunno whether to do as fury or arms

i feel squisher on fury for sure

[elfin surge]

[south kestrel]

yep

[torpid roost]

I'm on hotel wifi on a non-gaming laptop doing decently well as fury

this is not ironic, though, maybe still a shitpost

[elfin surge]

i mean

this is the damage diff

arms vs fury

in 2s

[torpid roost]

which were you, not shitposting, actually asking

[elfin surge]

maybe not the most accurate assumption of furys damage vs arms

but still pretty crazy to DOUBLE the damage of another warrior

[torpid roost]

yeah I was crushing the 2 arms warriors in my lobby

though I had to run from them a lot because their damage "sticks" a bit better

but I just ran to their healers and gently introduced my 2h to their rectum

stick on me? shockwave, don't? I'll switch back when your cds are down and your cleave isn't scary

[sage raptor]

test

[torpid roost]

icles

[sage raptor]

a server im in changed my name to kitten and now im on a crusade

[torpid roost]

aw, kitten, don't be upset

god it'd be hard to call somebody that without sounding patronizing as fuck

[sage raptor]

im livid

af

I found it

[south kestrel]

Could you make the argument that fury is better in 2s where as arms is better in shuffle

[elfin surge]

no

fury might be better in all

hard 2 tell

cuz fury tier is good

arms isnt

[sharp meteor]

Dark times ahead, friends.

[obsidian loom]

I have no idea how sharpen gets nerfed but lock ms is fine

Legit pepega balance team

[south kestrel]

Fair.

thoughts on odyns vs onslaught?

[obsidian loom]

https://i.redd.it/555fvbjjyxza1.jpg

[tawny brook]

Rebirth from virgin arms to Chad Thundercock Fury

Green Day sucks so bad. I can’t take that gremlin bobblehead’s voice

[tawny brook]

Does human have to switch in the medallion against certain comps?

Medallion instead of badge

Is sidearm actually decent as fury with your high attack speed?

[obsidian loom]

Meirl

[elder coyote]

hello, is annihilator or raging blows build better for fury?

[sharp meteor]

I really wanted raging blow to be better but there's still the nerf to crushing blow.

[obsidian loom]

I like less buttons so annihilator

[ruby temple]

So wait are we not memeing about fury

[south kestrel]

no, genuinely good

[stark reef]

Only thing missing is the typos

!?1!1?1?1!

[steep cairn]

Alright where’s this fucking fury build in the pins 😤

[torpid bolt]

why people are praising fury?

i expect killer patch for fury again like last season

get geared for fury , then crushed and respect in arms

[ruby temple]

Arms got a bit nerfed and so people malded to fury and realized ayo it actually pumps is what it looks like

[sharp meteor]

Wizards also make it a little more appealing.

[trail jackal]

Are infurious warboots bugged with interrupts? doesn't seems to give me the stat when i interrupt only when I cc

[mint pulsar]

Asking for a friend.. is there an updated fury build? 🙂 ❤️ pinned seems outdated if im not wrong

[mild mango]

is shadowflame wreath any good for fury pvp or just stick with sophic?

[spice hornet]

Typical ragnaros demon hunter

I’ve noticed boomkins can be giga toxic as well

In shuff

[urban skiff]

trust me, fury kills it until 10.1.5 where arms gets a pseudo rework for no reason.

i have seen the future and it is full of rampage

[spring python]

I miss our big crits

having 9% crit with full honor gear is sadge

[solid raven]

Morning guys where can i find a guide for 10.1 arms

[urban skiff]

Pins for the talents and stats. For playstyle just idk

look at Mud's stream or watch a 10.7 guide

[fathom loom]

Agree. I went back to a mix of crit and haste.

[vapid tartan]

Got a 437 ashkandur does bonus work In pvp?

[lethal sandal]

i think it is halfed

[spring python]

Do we go for Fierce armor kit or Lambent?

[solid raven]

Seen the talents but its more about opener + how to use defensives (im new to warrior and pvp)

[indigo barn]

Wowhead says not reduced

[vapid tartan]

It isn’t while hitting dummy atleast

Fuckit imma try it out

in a game

[tawny brook]

Is wow being buggy or laggy for any of you

[quaint ruin]

Rogues are fking immortal if u are fury lol

[urban skiff]

lmao what

onslaught takes like 1/3rd their health

[pine tiger]

lil bit yeah

[limber relic]

Stat prio for fury? Is it stil haste?

[whole chasm]

Big mast

[lethal sandal]

just had a lobby vs boomy, devoker and bmhunter. went 3wins 3 losses just because the devoker had dc last round. shit is insane when facing boomy, i feel like they have so muhc pressuze while taking 0 dmg

at 1700mmr

playing vs 22400 - 2700exp people at 1700mmr. nice game blizzard D:

[vapid tartan]

1 proc of ashkandur

[vapid tartan]

aint really blizz fault ladder deflated rn not that many people qing

#8-10 ranked arms on ss are literally 2100 rn

[carmine canopy]

Guys what's the end goal for gear set up? Are we goin 2 or 4set for arms pvp?

[vapid tartan]

cant hurt to take 4p