pvp

[teal hedge]

Either these healers are the worst on the planet or I'm rusty

It's the healer

Disc priest in my lobby is struggling

[near delta]

You want to go for the boots

It's the melee version of precog

Not as good but it's alright

[stark reef]

resto druid stealthing out of focus is so tilting

jesus christ man

[river walrus]

Annoying is being kited by evokers infinity mobility and the super tanky locks

[teal hedge]

Oh my god

There are 20+ people in da world-quest

Most are just casters that do not attack each other=?

This is insane

What is happening

There are actual teams with healers

[supple galleon]

I think I fixed my stats but now I have like no crit

[supple galleon]

dam u got even less crit than me lol

[teal hedge]

Where we're going we don't need crit

[river walrus]

Crit got nerfed, right? Haste probably better for sustainable damage

[teal hedge]

Always has been

It's between crit and mast rbn

[lean night]

Even if you wanted more crit they don’t even have crit wep for conq

[supple galleon]

is the helm worth it if I already have the boots?

[teal hedge]

How do you already have da boots?

[supple galleon]

I had a spark and a token

so I was like why not

they go to 450 in pvp I think

[elfin surge]

@lean night

[lean night]

Hi mud

[teal hedge]

What're the boots called?

I found it

Wait, are public orders not here yet?

[lean night]

You have to guild/personal rn

I got mine through trade

[teal hedge]

Oh that sucks

[lean night]

Yeap

[teal hedge]

Danish dad guild I was in just fell apart

They moved server and faction

[lean night]

Blizzard kinda half assed gearing for PvP this season

Didn’t even add crit/vers wep

Or elite sword

[teal hedge]

Trade chat is filled with sociopaths

[limber relic]

@elfin surge

[elfin surge]

IGNORED

[limber relic]

Rude

[teal hedge]

We livin

I got em

[limber relic]

But why warboots and not get crafted gear and put the pvp item + the right embelishment

+vers/haste missive?

🤔

[lean night]

What embellishment does arms want rn

I was under the impression that it didn’t matter much due to all them being shit

[limber relic]

The movement imparing one and the kick one

[lean night]

Hmm yeah Im using kick one

Crazy how casters get precog (which apparently is bugged even if you kick sometimes it’ll still go through) and melee just get fucked

[quasi zephyr]

I did a public order yesterday. Worked fine

[limber relic]

Happened to me so many times

I always thought i missed kick

[lean night]

Its really obnoxious had it happen to me yesterday

[limber relic]

I was like fuck me im so shit getting fake casted this often

[lean night]

Whats also really obnoxious is blizzard fucking us out of the askandur recolors for mogs 😞

[mint pulsar]

Its not crazy that casters get precog. The games in a weird state where every class has access to everything and the micro cc is insane (!). Casters would never get anything of if they didnt have precog. What needs nerf is the natural tankiness of warlocks

[limber relic]

But always wondered why they didnt continue casting

😂

[lean night]

I think precog should reward cc immunity but not the haste

That’s too much

[mint pulsar]

Yeah maybe, or lower haste

[unique fox]

its me

[quartz raptor]

so was told to use to his build for fury but have no idea the name of the build so dont know how its supposed to work lol BgEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFEAAAAAAAAAAQggSCQEkCikEFQICEOQkkkWSkkESCJhEpEgkIRAAAQABB

[teal hedge]

We're talkin recrafts

[inner elbow]

thats a pve build

[quartz raptor]

ok well ill never listnen to that guy again

[inner elbow]

BgEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEAAAAAAAAAAQICkAERTKiQS0ABJSARSAJJJhkkEhEplWSCQSAAAQABB

try this

[quartz raptor]

Will do thanks a bunch. I was using a simple build learning and figured I’d spice it up this season lol.

[stark reef]

It's all of us

I just had my first absolutely attrocious lobby, 1/5 vs. double arms and enhance as fury

Was so bad, I made a cleave build for next meele lobby

[supple galleon]

is fury still trash

[elfin surge]

fury A tier

[stark reef]

Yeah, definitely playable but clearly behind arms

[elfin surge]

i think it might be closer than we think

[supple galleon]

what pvp talents do yall take

[elfin surge]

fury lowkey might be better than arms

[stark reef]

Do you ever swap off targets?

As fury

[supple galleon]

ima make a pvp talent set for fury just to try it

[stark reef]

Feels terrible to just train someone with a straight up immunity but I am paranoid even just moving away I lose slaughterhouse

[elfin surge]

not many fury gamers here

[supple galleon]

rip

[stark reef]

BgEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFEAAAAAAAAAAQICaJAR0kCCJRDEkIBEJBkkkESSSESkWKJJAJBAAABEE

This is a mixture of @elfin surge Warrior talents and the current R1 Fury talents

Try at your own risk

Shockwave + Max sgl target

[elfin surge]

@untold fjord streams a bit of fury now and then

looks pretty solid

cuz of the caster meta

fury struggles vs melee

[stark reef]

Yes, that's my impression

Training casters feels great

That last lobby had me in shambles

Made this cope-cleave build to hang with the boys next time

[supple galleon]

oh wtf you go annihilator?

[elfin surge]

we know arms is super good so nobody is really trying fury

thats the prob

[elfin surge]

we have all xpan

its literally bloodthirst spam

high damage and healing

[supple galleon]

I was told RB was the meta but that was also not pvp

[elfin surge]

i dont think anyone knows the best fury talents cuz nobody is really playing it

we know arms is S tier

[inner elbow]

i tried fury today, was surprisingly good

arms still better at high rating ofc but fury seems totally fine

[elfin surge]

fury did get buffs and the meta is more favored to fury

imagine playing fury in a fistweaver skullsplitter meta

[inner elbow]

[elfin surge]

but warlocks and priests...

[unique fox]

Just wish it wasnt bloodthirst spam build again

[elfin surge]

fury design is really lame

its so spammy

[supple galleon]

Idk I kinda like it

I liek them both

[inner elbow]

annihilator build feels awful outside of cds

[elfin surge]

Arms

Fury

[elfin surge]

how

RA makes the rotation smooth

[inner elbow]

idk it takes so long to get enough rage for rampage without reck

and u just sit there spamming BT

[elfin surge]

Rampage Bloodbath Bloodbath Bloodthirst Rampage

fury rotation

[inner elbow]

intricate rotation

[green anchor]

insane

[elfin surge]

[supple galleon]

remember DH rotation when you never even used Death Sweep

[stark reef]

[supple galleon]

holy shit I just 1v1d a pally as fury

I quit arms lol

[teal hedge]

Arms is simply cooler

[inner elbow]

true

[supple galleon]

yues

however, 1v1d a ret

[fast meteor]

Fury warrior has 2 settings anihi for single target and pvp and rb for pvm

https://tenor.com/view/change-my-mind-gif-11630051

[supple galleon]

death wish?

okay so I'm taking Slaughterhouse, Enduring Rage. what is a good third? Death Sentence, Death Wish, Battle trance?

[elfin surge]

situational

[inner elbow]

death wish for the memes

[stark reef]

This season already 2100?:

Damn

[dense glen]

hey gents, could anyone link a good arms warrior build? been trying to find what talents are good but have seen multiple sites suggesting different things

[stark reef]

I see, yeah last season I was 2300 on Fury

Pretty much same thing though

[dense glen]

ah i see, thanks

[stark reef]

But swapping felt awkward tbh

Maybe buffs change it

[fast meteor]

Fury is good don't get me wrong only thing i played, since season 2 started now im learning arms and let me tell ya compared to arms it's still shit in pvp

[dense glen]

is the spear or skullsplitter build better atm or are they about equal

[stark reef]

Ok, I am an actual ape - after maybe 2k rounds as fury I just made a slaughterhouse WA - it stacks 4times/rampage

LMAO

Good to fkn know

I thought I need to rampage 12 times

This is a whole different convo now

[halcyon ravine]

Dude.

Mortal strike got nerfed.

[stark reef]

So yeah, if you can get 12 stacks off 3x rampage ofc you swap, easy peezy

[halcyon ravine]

They are gonna replace ms.

With a different ability

And rampage

[inner elbow]

[stark reef]

2k rounds mate. No words.

[halcyon ravine]

Yes.

Cock.

[stark reef]

I could have won so many more games. Oh the horror.

[lean night]

Real men play smf fury

[teal hedge]

So wait, we don't use skullsplitter lest we have recklessness?

[worthy fern]

The amount of games I’ve lost this week and then realized I didn’t have wf and flame tongue on my weapons is embarrassing

At least like 10 total games

Dif between 4-2 and 3-3

[inner elbow]

you wanna use it within CS window with warlords torment

[teal hedge]

That's da plan

[lean night]

I think he means with blademaster’s torment

I still think you go sks with blademaster damage is too good even without warlord’s

[inner elbow]

blademasters with sks is kinda weird

dont rly see anyone play that

ye idk

it can work

[lean night]

Its clunky

But sks is clunky regardless

Thinking Im gunna try haste/crit build on alt war with no sks and full on ms talents just to see how it plays

[inner elbow]

has anyone tried this?

[lean night]

Ngl I might have to do that on my smf war

Double shadowflame

Ah nvm its abilities not auto attack rip

[teal hedge]

Blademaster is cringe

Bladestorm is cringe

[supple galleon]

1v1 as Fury is kinda cracked wtf

[stark reef]

What build is he using, do you know?

[fickle forge]

Some warr I faced had it as his 3rd highest dmg

[urban skiff]

So what are we crafting first and why?

[thick reef]

Is annihilator build still better for fury than onslaught build even with the tier set?

[stark reef]

How would people even know this?

[thick reef]

People tested the patch before it was released

[stark reef]

[thick reef]

Currently fury warriors are still using annihilator buld as the meta then?

[stark reef]

Anybody who thinks they have it fully figured out after the first week of the season is someone you should not take advice from

If you want to see what people are trying out I'd recommend checking leaderboards and twitch

[thick reef]

Ok fair enough I appreciate the honesty

[stark reef]

In short - annihilator is still very popular, yes

[thick reef]

Ok great thank you

[quaint ruin]

Cool stuff

[river walrus]

With 4 tier set onslaught build with spear might be strong, but for now annihilator build is the most popular I would say. Based on my research from all the top pvp players on leader boards

[thick reef]

🙏 I only ask cause I so a youtuber testing onslaught and was hitting near 300k bloodthirsts

[river walrus]

Yeah that's true. But it's because of the 4 set, you gotta build the bloodthirst stacks and then land spear. The damage is nutty even after the 50% nerf in pvp

[urban skiff]

yes

[thick reef]

Does anyone here have experience playing prot in solo shuffle last season? How does it fair in other tank vs tank solo shuffle match ups?

[supple galleon]

oh???

[nimble prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XUO_Zq9am8&t=193s

[thick reef]

https://youtu.be/DC4REiXfSaQ

[thick reef]

This link above is where I saw it

[modern ravine]

I'm a massive noob and sometimes forget to change to battle after going defensive, anyone have a weakaura that can just tell me which one I'm in?

[vapid tartan]

It’s displayed on the icons themselves

Download bartender, if you’re having trouble seeing it you can increase the size of stance bar I guess

[modern ravine]

yeah that's what I was trying to figure out how to move it

tyty

[nimble prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XUO_Zq9am8&t=193s

[stark reef]

Went 5/0, got so excited that I played last game in dstance...feelsgreatman

[vapid tartan]

So fury counterplay is disarm/cc on reck, keep em slowed?

idk I like how you can stop disarms with dbs on arms

[supple galleon]

wtf is the buff he used for hitting 250k with Bloodbath?

[supple galleon]

what buff is that

[thick reef]

The new pvp tier 4 set bonus

[supple galleon]

wait wait wait

where is that at

wtf

[thick reef]

Do you have your first tier piece from season 2 yet?

[supple galleon]

no

[thick reef]

I'm not online so I can't link mine

[supple galleon]

do I just go to the revival catalyst?

[thick reef]

But rampage causes that to stack. And the stacks increase the damage on bloodbath

Plus spear damage multiplier. It hits big

And no I think you need 1600 or 1800 rating to get the first tier piece this week

[supple galleon]

but I'm a trashcan

[thick reef]

You can do it! Lol

Or you have to wait till the revival catalyst comes out mid June. And get lucky with vaults till then. You'll only be 1 piece behind, not a big deal

[supple galleon]

fr I'm new I just need coaching lol I think my gear is enough to not die instantly anymore I have like 600k hp

[thick reef]

Life as a fury is tough. I know the feeling. I'm still learning alot as well

[supple galleon]

oh I was arms I just switched like 3 hours ago LOL

but fury feels better than arms for me I think its the healing

I switched to Onslaught + Bloodrage

[craggy geyser]

Fury and the shirtless pic go together

[supple galleon]

yeah I look pretty good right

just say yes so I dont get insecure ty

[thick reef]

Yes

[supple galleon]

tysm

[craggy geyser]

HahHaha

[thick reef]

Lol ya fury is more my play style so I just stick with it

[supple galleon]

Legion Arms was just... that's what I miss.

[craggy geyser]

Yeah fury is fun?

Been years since I played it

[supple galleon]

I like it, it's more complex than people give it credit for

[craggy geyser]

I need to find an arena team people are such douche bags “3000 cr + bruhhh” unemployment Andy’s

[supple galleon]

I'll run with whoever as long as they arent raging

dude how am I supposed to win against 2 rets lol

[boreal stone]

i tried it, its just 20k dps less than skullsplitter. its fried lol. At least last patch the damage was similar overall

[lean night]

Yeesh

[lean burrow]

https://youtu.be/4KfC923EFsY

[teal hedge]

Holy shit mud gets 200 viewers??

Thought he was some goon wit like 20 viewers

What's the macro used for stopping bladestorm?

[hot solstice]

1st week and already nothing to do in this game

[hard vector]

what do we prefere prefere in solo que now fury or arms?

[lean burrow]

show illusion

[lean burrow]

[craggy geyser]

That makes me hard

[teal hedge]

What's the macro for cancelling bladestorm?

[inner elbow]

/cancelaura Bladestorm

[stark reef]

/cancelaura Bladestorm

[muted surge]

/gquit

My go to macro

[lean burrow]

it just removes 10% riding speed and cd reduction on hearth

[teal hedge]

Already had some dismal games

Added the cancelaura to my execute bind

[stark reef]

Should have that in any key spells

Bolt, shout, ms, etc

[teal hedge]

Real

I noticed I needed the extra mobility when facing casters

Had a really depressing round, did very good and should've gotten at least a 3/6 but then my teammate just decides it's time to drop dead when the guy I'm killing only has 70k health

[stark reef]

Put in all mobility spells, to

Charge, leap, intervene

Ofc pummel

What are peoples thoughts on pacing? Really liking it so far

Games on average much longer

But not too long

Micro-CC is out of this world though

[teal hedge]

Yeah, cc is insane

[visual river]

3 games in a row 3/6 and gained 5 rating fml why am I so trash can?

[boreal stone]

def not needed at all lol

[stark reef]

Can bind it individually but why make the hustle?

[boreal stone]

because u can just have the cancel aura in one button

u dont need it in every button, esp when its something like charge

ur gonna start wasting mobility jsut to cancel a bladestorm

[stark reef]

That’s one more button I need to press - keeping it simple

You bind it everywhere not just in charge

So if you press a new skill that warrants cancelling you just press it

[boreal stone]

I mean, u can do as u wish, but makign a cancel aura bladestorm for every ability is just dumb

[stark reef]

It’s dumb bruv

🤣

Fk off mate

[boreal stone]

arent u the same guy that doesnt play intervene?

yikes man

[stark reef]

Are you the guy that gets trolled by a pasta in 2023?

Hate to see it

“Waste charge to cancel Bladestorm” - some people in here really would fail an IQ test

[boreal stone]

if u put cancel aura into ur charge and spam the charge keybind, youre gonna press charge out of the bladestorm. it leaves room for error, hence wasting mobility

[teal hedge]

Wait

[stark reef]

You put it in every.key.spell?

[teal hedge]

/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast Bladestorm

[stark reef]

Am I typing in Swahili?

[teal hedge]

This work?

[boreal stone]

no

[stark reef]

What part of pressing a new ability to continue your gameplay do you not understand?

[teal hedge]

I am not making 31 macros

[boreal stone]

that macro can bug out and insta cancel ur bladestorm

[teal hedge]

Oh okay

[boreal stone]

#showtooltip Execute
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast Execute

use that

the only cancel aura macro ive ever needed

[teal hedge]

What's #showtooltip Execute do?

[boreal stone]

it jsut shows the execute tooltip, it doesnt actually do anything tho

can take out that part if u so desire, jsut a havbit

[teal hedge]

Just made this one

[boreal stone]

that should work

[teal hedge]

I remember this from legion:

What a piece of work the monk-class was

[boreal stone]

would also recoomend this cancel aura:
#showtooltip
/cast Taunt
/cancelaura Blessing of Freedom
/cancelaura Blessing of Protection
/cancelaura Thorns
/cancelaura Sweeping Strikes

[teal hedge]

Hmm.

[stark reef]

https://check-pvp.fr/us/Ravencrest/Atake

[teal hedge]

So many horde players smh my head

[boreal stone]

https://check-pvp.fr/us/Tichondrius/Hìm
https://check-pvp.fr/us/Sargeras/Atakez
https://check-pvp.fr/us/Tichondrius/Çhïëfgrïëf
https://check-pvp.fr/us/Tichondrius/Çhïëfßëëf
https://check-pvp.fr/us/Tichondrius/Døømwinds

damn bro

at elast link the right check pvps

[stark reef]

[teal hedge]

https://check-pvp.fr/eu/Ravencrest/Argaskurken

Here's mine

[boreal stone]

furry detected

[teal hedge]

Wrogen

[boreal stone]

adult furry

[teal hedge]

Damn strait

As a matter of fact

Turned 19 1,5 hours ago

[boreal stone]

grats bro

[tawny brook]

Furry unironically?

[teal hedge]

No

I'm not a furry

But I'm an adult

[tawny brook]

Kk lol

[teal hedge]

Though worgens are cool, underrated race

[tawny brook]

Yea I like them a lot

[teal hedge]

I miss the danish dad-guild

Rest easy, <Danish Heritage>

Am I doing something wrong? Who does the other dps keep dropping dead?

[clever fern]

rip

[quick carbon]

those are good nerfs

Skullsplitter was retarded

[teal hedge]

What did I tell you guys lmao

[quick carbon]

arms still fine

[clever fern]

at least they nerfed destro

[teal hedge]

Yeah, this doesn't seem too bad

[clever fern]

rejoice

[teal hedge]

Yeah, I'm doing that

Slowing them

Stunning the paladin poppin cds

Fear, as well

And intervening when things look sour

[hazy isle]

thank god, finally

sks was so dumb

[woeful solstice]

Oh NO

Well I gotta abuse warrior while I can

That sks nerf really stings

[quick carbon]

Warrior still rlly good

[woeful solstice]

They really want PvP to become pve don’t they

[teal hedge]

Yeah

[stark reef]

People say it’s fine, give it a week

[woeful solstice]

100% fine

[teal hedge]

Arms is unironically the strongest melee in the game rn

[woeful solstice]

But what makes things op is the speed in which the damage happens

Not turning players into target dummies

With overall steady dps

Aka damp

Zzzzzz

[spice hornet]

Arms just got raped

[woeful solstice]

Sks dream is over rip 2023-2023

[hazy isle]

the dk changes are beyond retarded

[spice hornet]

Fury is gonna be begger now

[woeful solstice]

Can’t believe dk got nerfed that hard

[spice hornet]

TBF arms dam was nuts I would have 100% amp curse up time and the arms would get 0 crits all game, but still be at the same dam

[woeful solstice]

Frost and fury prob better specs for each now Lmaoooo

[quick carbon]

Arms still top tier melee

[hazy isle]

the pillar nerf is really bad for frost tho

even tho they got pve buffs

[hazy isle]

pillar of frost

[woeful solstice]

jokes aside

i think we're gonna be even better on tuesday

you can spec out of sks now and pump

they just dumbed us down and made our passive damage higher lmao

[runic wharf]

fury time?

[lean burrow]

back to non-sks build

[teal hedge]

And I just started liking sks as well

[spice hornet]

How is BM hunter avoiding any nerfs

Unreal man

[runic wharf]

ooooh

[teal hedge]

Why are they nerfing frost dks lmao

[hazy isle]

i guess ur blind

dks got shafted

[woeful solstice]

this is cope

[spice hornet]

Blizz employee queued into degenerate frost dk/devoker and went “wtf is this cancer shit”

They deserve it

[woeful solstice]

right

its pretty sad

[spice hornet]

Yeah. That’s why you’re getting buffed in other areas

It was a cringe play style

Doesn’t matter if it’s the only viable comp

Setup stopped taking skill with 40 yard grip

Chains and hide all game

Wow such skill

[quartz wagon]

Looks like they're gonna nerf skullsplitter

[hazy isle]

fdk/devoker more fun than any warr comp imo

[quartz wagon]

I can't play frost dk as long as chill streak exists

that ability is ass

[stark reef]

@mild thunder can we please make sure the pins feature actual meta-classes?

[spice hornet]

Frost dk sgoildve gotten a redesign before spriest

No idea why they gave spriest a 7th rework

And now mage

Just lmao

[quartz wagon]

DK's are just fucking weird across the board. They're just constantly bad unless their damage is overtuned to the point it's clearly broken and they get hotfix nerfed.

[teal hedge]

Like the one ret got?

[quartz wagon]

I feel like people don't play the class because it doesn't provide what a DK should.

Why is an undead heavily armoured slow melee squishy as fuck, dual wielding or doing all their damage through a pet

they should be the most durable class by default

[woeful solstice]

should be a melee afflock not a fucking squishy summon class

or an Icy fury warrior

[quartz wagon]

Exactly. Frost should have a massive two hander, be very slow, but have loads of slows and when it's on you it smashes hard

like arthas walking at you then bang you explode

[stark reef]

Freedom probably the most tilting one

At least make it so they can’t freedom Allie’s

Peeling like that as DPS is ass

Freedom on a BM hunter or Frost Mage is just stupid if you also have a ret on the lose training your team

[quick carbon]

bad class design

dk is just flawed and needs a redesign

[quartz wagon]

It's just speaking to a theme, it's not actually going to exist in that form.

[rotund trellis]

is SKS the way to go? I am doing realy low damage

[quick carbon]

if dk relied on damage mitigation to live and not absorbs and self healing which get destroyed by dampening they’d probably be better in pvp

[quick carbon]

Not on Tuesday

Sks nerfed

[stark reef]

[rotund trellis]

what?

it is easy but still the rotation is unclear to me

just mashing buttons? where the heck does thunderclap live?

that ^

I'm not playing SS

do we have a pinned build?

including stat priority?

[quartz wagon]

There's hotfixes coming so builds are probs gonna change I guess? skullsplitter from 100 to 60

[obsidian loom]

Lmao arms is dead

Sks getting that big of a nerf will kill the spec

Unless the conq gear is really tuned

[rotund trellis]

thanks!

[oblique patrol]

Dont think it kills it, we are the best melee rn - we probs just drop a tier

[rotund trellis]

encahnts are shopic on wep right?

[quick carbon]

arms being nerfed was long overdue anyway

[wispy drum]

I was playing that build last night at 1900 MMR in 2s and it cranks.

Very fun

[stable siren]

same yeah arms has 2 many keys for my stinky brain so went fury and hit people for free mog

[stark reef]

Playing around w/ haste into high-up time targets and mastery into stuff like hunter & mage - liking it so far but 2.4k pleb so take with grain of salt

Haste into any meele and lock, spriest, etc. def does heavy damage

[wispy drum]

I need to tinker around with the build a bit for meat cleaver for RBGs.

Looks like caster meta again so barbarian base peeling and sitting on tanks is likely gonna be all I can do.

[stark reef]

Pls no nerfs

[obsidian loom]

big nerf

[craggy geyser]

u like fury too?

[obsidian loom]

they cant nerf a spec 10 people play

they nerf for optics

rather than theoretical balance

[quartz wagon]

[stark reef]

The classic

[quartz wagon]

Just kill them before dampening

[stark reef]

“Let’s go the fury warrior”

Pls do

[quartz wagon]

Honestly after hitting a certain rating in arena I just prefer to do RBGs anyway.

Don't like arena as much as rbgs

boomer brain

[wispy drum]

Mmm rbgs

[stark reef]

2nd time you have 90sec up is usually the line in the sand, yeah

[quartz wagon]

Honestly I'd rather we have solo rbgs than solo arena because solo shuffle is just ass for coordination

[stark reef]

But also most dangerous go if you can line it with bolt or fear on healer

[quartz wagon]

fuck yeah they would lol

be fun though

[stark reef]

If had rounds go long enough to trinket twice this patch though

[rotund trellis]

sophic on weapons?

and gear all mastery?

ok

ty

can we pin it?

[stark reef]

Definitely not me 🤣

Nah, give perms to mud, he’s got this

[tawny brook]

That means you won

Front line is everywhere boys

[stark reef]

2/4 online actually have anime avatars

[tawny brook]

“A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us.”

[stark reef]

1.5 since its an anime cat

[tawny brook]

We are there now

Fuck jannies

Don’t make me take away your $0.00 paycheck janny. Clean up these threads

[tawny brook]

Lol

[unique fox]

Blizz is determined to make arms mid as fuck this exp

[lean night]

Sks nerfs time to stack crit again 4head

[unique fox]

Skullsplitter should still hit hard with deep wounds and rend getting 15% buffs

[visual river]

Fml literally just got all haste gear

[tawny brook]

Actual nerfs or tehe nerfs im trolling?

[unique fox]

Time to unnerf all the other shit though

Fatality nerf, sharpened blades nerf, executioners precision nerf, spear nerfed,

Blizz WILL have us pressing slam if its the last fucking thing they do

[tawny brook]

Link or fake

[unique fox]

On mmo champ

Sharpen blade nerfed too

Whats sick about the sharpened blade nerf is that your ms just falls off now because it only lasts 4s loooooooooooool

[obsidian loom]

actual nerfs

[stark eagle]

better not be

[obsidian loom]

https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/us/class-tuning-incoming-may-16-1588251

[unique fox]

We got fucked in half boys

[stark reef]

@mild thunder are the pins up to date? It is recommending an off-meta spec, not sure if that’s intentional.

[lean night]

Back to bfa where deep wounds is our #1 damage

[sharp meteor]

Fury looking a bit less unappealing.

[unique fox]

It's fury for sure with this shit

[robust geyser]

wait, what's the new arms meta build?

[sharp meteor]

2 seconds off sharpen kind of stings.

[stark eagle]

nerf our MS while giving every other class an MS

[robust geyser]

Please don't tell me we have to go back to skullsplitter

[wispy drum]

[lean night]

It’s been meta

Playing without it rn is troll

[robust geyser]

nooo, i hate skullsplitter

[sharp meteor]

Then don't play it.

[stark eagle]

you can do just fine without it

but its still nice to use

[mild thunder]

Apart from the sharpen nerf, these really aren’t a big deal

Sks needed nerfs

[lean night]

It’s probably back to crit ms build tbh

[unique fox]

35% nerf though?

[lean night]

But maybe not idk

[robust geyser]

sad sharpen is nerf, was fun while it lasted

[mild thunder]

It’ll be a bleed build meta

[lean night]

🤢

[mild thunder]

Sks will still hit decently probably

[sharp meteor]

Nah all haste bleeds with probably no splitter

(and no blue elite sword)

[lean night]

Triggered

[unique fox]

Someone do the math

Too bad we're all retarded ass warriors in here

[robust geyser]

I am

[stark eagle]

No Id rather be mad at face value

[robust geyser]

I cant count to 4

[mild thunder]

Arms pvp talents getting turned to shit tho

[unique fox]

15% more dam on deep wounds and rend - 35%

Sharpen only lasting 4s is giga aids but 15% dam is still gonna be good esp with 4 set

Just sucks if you dont reset your ms with overpower you just lose your ms effect for 2 seconds

[mild thunder]

4set sucks ass

[unique fox]

It does but 15% damage on ms is better than whatever secondary stats you'd get instead

[mild thunder]

Ngl it’s almost impossible to not reset your ms lol

[wispy drum]

I actually hate the arms set this season

[mild thunder]

It’s only 15% if you stack it up 3x

Which you never will

[unique fox]

If we're still running sks it will, probably

[mild thunder]

Doubt we will

It’ll still be a decent option into some comps but wont be our regular build

[lean night]

Bfa warrior all over again 😢

[mild thunder]

???
Rn ms is ahead of our bleeds by a country mile unless you play sks lmao

We’re not even close to bleeds being our main dmg source

[hazy isle]

i think fury will be almost as good if not prob better next tuesday

[lean night]

Wondering if going crit with 4 piece ms build might be worth

[mild thunder]

Why would we run crit - a nerfed stat - so we get value of our tier set, which is also nerfed

[unique fox]

I don't think haste is good for wars myself

Gonna run crit/mastery

[mild thunder]

haste is straight up our best dps stat lmao

[robust geyser]

haste is fun tho

[mild thunder]

Even in pve arms runs almost full haste

[unique fox]

I dont know if it is in practice for pvp, some dork with a spreadsheet can say it all he wants

[mild thunder]

[craggy geyser]

anyone have a guide for fury like talents, stats and such?

[mild thunder]

The best fury talent is the one where you don’t play fury and play arms instead

You heard it here first

[craggy geyser]

lolllllllll

fury that bad tho?

[unique fox]

The SKS nerf is like 25% damage effectively unless my math is wrong

[robust geyser]

[mild thunder]

It’s pretty ass, there’s just no reason to play it

[lean night]

I still think arms gunna be better than fury

[robust geyser]

even with nerfs, i assume Sharpen Blade is still meta?

[robust osprey]

man fury blows

[unique fox]

Ya SKS nerfed by 25% effectively with the rend/deep wounds buff

[robust osprey]

I am not having a good time in shuffle

[unique fox]

Thats kinda brutal

[quick carbon]

Sks needed to be nerfed

[lean night]

Slaughterhouse is too unreliable, Gala probably right as far as haste goes still want to try tier with crit just because

[unique fox]

Yeah for sure it did

[lean night]

Yeah sks was propping arms up

[quick carbon]

i think you’ll just be splitting between haste and crit

still

[unique fox]

It will be nice to have rend/deep wounds ticking more between goes, might balance out

[lean night]

Sks was basically execute pre nerf

[craggy geyser]

when did it get nerfed?

[quick carbon]

ya but you’d just 70-0 with it and not 35-0

[mild thunder]

Nooooo, they nerfed arms so bad now fury better 😡😡😡

[lean night]

Has anybody tested the damage bonus 4 set gets on ms

[worthy fern]

As far as nerfs go it’s not the worst ever

Sustained dmg buffed a bit

For less burst

Plus the increased dmg of rend and deep wounds might offset the sks nerf a bit

[lean night]

Just praying its not bfa 2.0

[stark reef]

Yeah, someone said it’ll prob be around 25%, that sounds about right

Instead of 35%

[unique fox]

It's like 60-70k damage less or so with my current gear from the bleed portion

[rotund trellis]

+1500 in a session with fury. feelsgood

[lean night]

Do that as smf fury

Real man’s spec

[woeful solstice]

yeah its really just stripping more burst, turning pvp into pve

kinda zzzz

[tawny brook]

So can I play without sks now since I hate it

[lean night]

I still think you go sks

Playing without it probably kinda troll

As somebody said it’s more like 75% sks

Who knows though

[keen coral]

Just curious, does anyone else feel like their warrior just does negative damage in this patch for seemingly no reason? I'm in full honor gear with the important enchants, and I feel like I have absolutely no pressure at all anymore. I was 2900 in shuffle before the patch and 2200 in 3s, I'm not a bad warrior, but my mortal strikes and executes are hitting for a max of 50-60k when before the patch that was an easy 100k+. Even with the crit nerfs the difference shouldn't be that big

[unique fox]

I played some 2s last night and felt I had a hard time closing games out when I wouldnt have before

[lean night]

I hit a 125k ms the other day on destro lock

[unique fox]

Definitely felt wet noodleish between CDs

[lean night]

With crit nerfs war probably gunna be shitty feral druid with bleed passive damage

[visual river]

so torn what to do now lol, stick with bleed arms or go fury zug

[tranquil hemlock]

It’s the same stats play both?

[visual river]

haste vers arms, mastery vers fury

[tranquil hemlock]

Can still use haste with mastery off pieces for both specs

[lean night]

Haste fury is probably fine but yeah mastery better

[tranquil hemlock]

Haste feels good to me but I’m only 1800 could be more punishing higher I go

[visual river]

in fury?

[tranquil hemlock]

Yeah

1830 I believe

[visual river]

i changed from fury to arms s2 but feels like hitting with a wet noodle right now haha

[tranquil hemlock]

I’ll try full mastery and see how it feels

[visual river]

i did full mastery s1

[tranquil hemlock]

Benefits of honor gear multiple sets are easy

Haste has always felt better on warrior to me tbh

[visual river]

yea true i have 6k honor right now but will need it for the polearm+upgrade

shockwave in fury? or no

[tranquil hemlock]

I’m not playing it no

The sec I’m currently have on my armory is what I’m using

Spec*

[visual river]

shall muck around, thank you

[tranquil hemlock]

np

[visual river]

hm enduring range has changed, we only have 1 rootbreak with odyns fury then?

avatar*

[tranquil hemlock]

bloodrage as pvp talent

to break roots

[visual river]

oh there it is, thanks

[tawny brook]

Gnome master race as well

[visual river]

haha im human

[tawny brook]

Also fun

[visual river]

running dps+hp trinket , but im told emblem is still better for 90s trinkets

[tawny brook]

Put that on your giant macro button

Same CD as recklessness, roar, avatar

Throw it on the pile

[visual river]

?

[tawny brook]

Yours is better than mine

Lol

[visual river]

on use dps trinket or the passive one better you reckon? since 1min cd for on use

[tawny brook]

Alacrity

[visual river]

both giving haste right now as honor

[tawny brook]

Passive

[simple rock]

does fury still play annihilator

[visual river]

this has been very insightful, thank you

[craggy geyser]

fury good in BG/Arena?

[lean night]

I think 20/10 crit/haste might be the move this season due to uptime

For arms

[unique fox]

Im gonna try stacking mastery for perma avatar

[lean night]

Lemme know how that feels

[lament belfry]

I love lag switchers in Skirmish

They're so bad in pvp to rely on it as a crutch lol

[tawny brook]

https://www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/1588251-class-tuning-incoming-may-16/

[tawny brook]

That isnt happening

[lament belfry]

It quite is when they're on same realm as you and suddenly your ping goes up massively

It's here and there you find them lol

[sharp meteor]

LMAO

[sharp meteor]

It isn't.

[lament belfry]

Lol okay

[lean night]

Lag switch != Chinese

[woeful solstice]

Lmao lag switch?

Ur joking right

[lean burrow]

lag switch is giga cringe

had some priest in epic bg running away from me, nobody around to help him

so I hamstring and pve into him

except he is constantly teleporting

even if I stand next to him the game says I'm too far away

then he teleports a few meters forward and I have to run

[stark eagle]

balance druid damage is wild

[south kestrel]

How bad were the ‘nerfs’

[frail badge]

This looks horoble with the nerfs. Warr already feels like shit compared to last season were I got 1800 with blademaster and no sks and this season feels horrible, look at even YouTube comments and other sites, everyone saying Warr feels like shit. Sure maybe yall could still do good with with it but for average players like me and a lot of other people its hard as he'll to play good and and the class is shot compared to just about any other class you come across in solo q

[lean night]

Caster metas are rough

[south kestrel]

I find this very hard to believe

[lean night]

Just gunna have to play smart, I think the play might be 20/10 crit/haste due to uptime and sks nerfs but not sure would have to test tues

[frail badge]

Look around and you will see many comments like that like on the skill capes tier list video recently for example

[south kestrel]

Definitely not gunna be the worst melee at least

I can understand it being worse than busted casters

[frail badge]

Aside from frost dk maybe?compared to any other melee? It feels horrible

At least playing against them

[lean night]

This

[frail badge]

I am not the the best but I have been playing a long time on and off

[lean night]

I think it’s gunna come down to this: do you want more consistency with deep wounds/rend haste/mastery or do you want more spikey damage with ms build crit/haste

[south kestrel]

Think id rather play fury if I was gunna do consistent damage

[lean night]

Non-moving target, haste/mastery will do most dps but idk caster metas you have to run a lot

[south kestrel]

My goal is 2100 this time for the enchant, as long as thats achievable then 🤷🏻‍♂️

[lean night]

That’s just me guessing though don’t take what I’m saying too seriously

I’m also a little biased because I prefer hitting ms for big crits vs bleeding with consistent damage

[south kestrel]

Feels better

[lean night]

Sks was really fun once I got used to it

Idk how good it will be after nerfs I think still good but not broken

[south kestrel]

Trying to finish off a target is the best, seeing a target live on less than 10% makes me wanna cry

[craggy geyser]

should we be doing haste crit or haste mastery for arms

[lean night]

Both are good but Im running haste mastery

Ill be trying crit haste tues though with ms build

[granite basin]

Should I be doing anything with my strike tokens this week as arms?

[lament belfry]

Looks like fury warrior season for me

[tawny brook]

You’re actually excited about that though aren’t you? I know I am lol

Don’t have to justify my effort into fury over arms now

[lament belfry]

Yeah I am a huge fury main

It's my bread and butter spec. Arms I am above average in

Gotten both specs 2.1k

[tawny brook]

Fury is way more fun. I love that big roar macro button. Casting it a second time is almost certain gg

[river walrus]

What roar macro?

[tawny brook]

Nothing so far with arms or bm can match that feeling of hitting three with the roar

[river walrus]

Ahhh the super macro

[tawny brook]

Yea

[river walrus]

I normally never use that macro lol

[tawny brook]

If you can hit all 3 with it it gets wild lol

Number go up

[river walrus]

I bet, but I've been getting ao many caster cleave lobbys

Shit is crazy

Locks porting non stop, shamans and bommys almost immortal

[lament belfry]

I am still using the old onslaught set up

And I've been overproducing damage cus of it lol

[tawny brook]

It feels like every lobby has at least 1 lock

[craggy geyser]

fury gonna be the jam

[lament belfry]

I can't tell you how much I love this talent that was reworked

[stark eagle]

the start of this season feels kinda ass

[visual river]

Seems like if we go fury 4 set this season we’re skipping head slot? Has huge crit and haste , everything else has mastery or vers with haste

[lament belfry]

Yes

Mostly cus the crafted helm

[visual river]

True, should that be better than the new s2 embelish

[visual river]

Has anyone been playing with it? Assuming you receive the recklessness after recovering from the cc?

[lament belfry]

I have

It's like a huge dps increase

[craggy geyser]

fury it is

[lament belfry]

Given the amount of infinite enrage I am getting cus people keep slowing, stunning, and fearing me constantly

I basically am always hitting you like a brick

[south kestrel]

Feelsbad that since I mainly pve I cant afford spark on pvp craft 😭

[visual river]

I’m just transferring back to fury from arms s2 now.. arms has been very lackluster for me

[lament belfry]

Enduring Rage is just really powerful it used too just increase your enrage when you rampage by like 1-2 seconds

[visual river]

So the PvP talents now “should” be enduring rage, slaughterhouse and blood rage staple?

[south kestrel]

How is furys ms effect now with the extended duration

[visual river]

Yolo ditch disarm and ignore shockwaves?

[lament belfry]

Given that Blizzard wants to tone down the CC, stunning meta we faced in S1 this talent is literally just outright putting that logic into forefront plus makes it fun for fury cus it fits them.

And yeah

[lament belfry]

I've been messing with it

It feels much better, though I still want my refresh

[south kestrel]

Interesting

[lean night]

Was too broken

[lament belfry]

I mean, I would've been fine if MS was lowered

But I guess this is one middle ground with way it is rn

[south kestrel]

People saying that the Intimidating Shout talent is bugged and is ccing for 8 seconds too

[inner gorge]

Is new stat prio for PvP on ARMS Vers Haste?

[boreal stone]

They are balacing the classes around 3s now it feels like. Warriors havnt really been an issue in shuffle, mostly 3s where things like bloodlust and PI stacking enabled warriors to 100-0 with skullsplitter. Arms will still have the utility it currently has, plus it does fairly decently in caster metas when compared to other melee

[boreal stone]

yes, vers haste, but would recommend getting vers mast gear as well for fury, arms taking some significant nerfs

[lean night]

Depends on how significant the sks feels on tues would wait and see

[inner gorge]

Good idea- Thanks!

[inner gorge]

Is Arms only taking a PvP nerf? or PvE as well

[lean night]

Pvp

[inner gorge]

Aight ty

[stark reef]

Locks feeling very fkn tanky

Doesn’t feel like hitting a caster tbh

Feels like hitting a boomy in bear form but lock is just happily gaming

Reducing burst def feels like a buff for casters just because you now win less games where they can’t react with a defensive - now you just have to dps through it

[visual river]

training a boomy and hes still outputting 55k dps, incredible

does scalewarden pvp tier bonuses work in rated settings?

[torpid roost]

Actually think warlocks should have even more hp, but lose almost all of their mitigation, they're wearing enchanted toilet paper, cmon

[undone pumice]

been like that for a long time tbh

also curse of weakness = cringe

its not me lmao

[torpid roost]

I think their bonuses still do not work in rated pvp but have somebody aware confirm

[undone pumice]

its eric van wilderman

@ mods

he said the n wodr

try to get a joke challenge

[torpid roost]

I mean, I'm for almost literally anything used in a humorous context, but, you aren't being funny or making a point

[undone pumice]

did you join this server just to annoy people

[tawny brook]

Now THIS is PvP chat!

[lean burrow]

what is this damn profile pic

[torpid roost]

Yeah, see, funny, haha. Retard.

<@&257983573498265600> fine, I'll do it. Fuck you slow bastards for making me the narc.

Kek

[tawny brook]

Boooooooooo

[muted surge]

Banned?

[torpid roost]

Guess so

[muted surge]

We are all banned from playing arms now anyway

Dead channel, dead pvp, dead spec

[tawny brook]

Can we vote to unban him

[muted surge]

Nah he seems like a twat

[tawny brook]

Make fun legal 2024

[ruby temple]

was a fury guide actually posted for renas in here yet? 🤔

[lean night]

So not to plug but we could def use a crit/vers 2 hand on conquest vendor after arms nerfs they have a model they could use too

[ruby temple]

why are they even nerfing sharpen blade. this a con by big blizzard to make people play fury just by making arms suck?

[torpid roost]

Bruh I don't give a damn about the gamer word or calling me fat but he was unfunny and grating, fuck him

[vapid tartan]

rip arms

:c

[torpid roost]

What happened to arms now

[vapid tartan]

increased dots but way less on sks

fbv nerf :c

whyyy

[ruby temple]

i'm sure the overall damage is gonna be the same just weird theyre targetting sharpen

[vapid tartan]

yeah hopefully

[muted surge]

What was the time on sharpen?

25 cd 6 debuff?

[ruby temple]

yup

so 30 cd 4 debuff now

[torpid roost]

That's so fucking bat

Bad

Was arms really in need of a major nerf

Back to dh supremacy... and ret lol

[ruby temple]

everyone just re-roll fury to teach blizz a lesson

[torpid roost]

*everyone cancel your sub to teach blizz a lesson

[void dawn]

Is it gonna swap our stat priority back to more crit?

Or are we straight vers whores now

[torpid roost]

I literally just started using sks like fucking 2 weeks ago

[lean burrow]

vers?

[torpid roost]

This game is such a piece of shit

[ruby temple]

clearly mastery is the go to now for fat deepwounds

[void dawn]

Yeah pure deepwounds stacking

[torpid roost]

Yeah I mean, bleeds still just got buffed

[stark eagle]

Haste/mastery is my guess

Vers obvs

[ruby temple]

big stonks anyways since all those dipshot locks and hunters are gonna be running from you anyways so we just do big rend/DW and then WE hide behind the pillar and piss em off

[torpid roost]

Mathematically how is that looking

[void dawn]

I was gonna say... if they got buffed up enough is the damage loss really that big

[torpid roost]

Bleed big buff but sks-effected bleeds big nerf

[void dawn]

I would need to pull out a calculator for this lol

[lean burrow]

mastery doesn't increase deep wounds damage

[ruby temple]

man im playin prot

[lean burrow]

[void dawn]

Prot best pvp spec now

[torpid roost]

Might be a small burst window nerf and a fat sustained damage buff

[ruby temple]

now no one gets to have fun in solo shuffle

[void dawn]

Hey i'd take that

[torpid roost]

Still pissed about sharpen

welp you've got 2 gcds for your go

aka "go" fuck yourself

[void dawn]

Blizzard worried about high burst
Still keeps pallies the way they are

[lean night]

I think crit/vers might be the play

Ms build

Wizard meta = low uptime so you want your damage when you connect to be meaningful

[ruby temple]

return of the spear build kings

[lean night]

If you go mastery/haste you’ll rage starve

Er mastery/vers

Haste is good but idk I think it was only really great due to sks

Because higher the haste = more sks damage

Need crit/vers sword 😭

[ruby temple]

kydrav is all this stat talk for the new prot-meta?

[lean night]

Prot is dead after crit nerfs 😔

Also does horrid into wizards

So there’s that too

[vapid tartan]

Magnus said on stream it’s a buff lul

[ruby temple]

to prot? hell yeah

[vapid tartan]

To arms

Hope HES rifht

[ruby temple]

oh 😦

[muted surge]

What there’s no way it’s a buff

[ruby temple]

i mean you'll probably just run the non SKS build I feel now which already was pumping

[muted surge]

We got so much value from sharpen

[ruby temple]

yeah no rationalizing the sharpen shit as a buff lol

[vapid tartan]

yeah I get the cd but the duration nerf sucks lul

[vapid tartan]

Yeah, pretty much a buff to the non sks build other than sharpen and fbv

and losing 15% of fbv isn’t too big a deal right

[ruby temple]

does the roar no skull even use fbv? I'm not on anymore

[vapid tartan]

You can

[torpid roost]

Yeah the cd nerf I'm okay with

Duration... come on

[torpid roost]

That's a wash, they buffed deep wounds, 70% of a bigger pool

[vapid tartan]

Yeah that’s what I’m thinkin 15% buff to deep wounds and 15% nerf to fbv xd

Balances out

[steep inlet]

Fuck thoses nerf

For real

War didn’t need that at all

[torpid roost]

They detected fun

Fun detected - nerf selected

[vapid tartan]

After dot buffs it’s a 5% nerf overall to sks? Not sure if math is correct

[torpid roost]

Is that all? That's gay but I'll live with that

[vapid tartan]

Sks nerfed by 35% rend + deep wounds both buffed by 15

Wait I’m not doing it correctly

took 38000 as rend bleed and 18000 as deep wounds, looked at tooltips with no modifiers in combat

think itll change a lot depending on crits, and vers of who your hitting

so not sure how accurate that is

[torpid roost]

Hmmm

So a 25% sks nerf, assuming your math is correct (that's how I would've done it)

[vapid tartan]

Yeah don’t think the rend is correct, since you get the extra few seconds when refreshing

And diff stats will throw it around

[elfin surge]

man

we're doomed

arms is dead

ggs

fury meta has returned

[visual river]

Changed honor gear to mastery for fury , feeling the dps come back boys

[elfin surge]

went fury and instantly went 20-0 in 2s

its so broken

[crystal tulip]

feelsgoodman

[visual river]

Recommended PvP talents?

[crystal tulip]

What are you guys crafting?

boots?

[visual river]

Boots seem really strong, free 500str every storm bolt

Safer than maybe baby 11k thorns dot

[crystal tulip]

Yeah was thinking that too

Right now I'm just sitting on conq cap for weapon next week if vault fucks me

fury tax :<

[steep inlet]

@elfin surge you tried Fury soloQ ? How does it feels

[visual river]

Sigh was looking forward to not needing double weapons but that doesn’t seem like the case lol
Maybe I should save the strife tokens two weeks and up the bloody token weapon

[crystal tulip]

i'm not as good as mud but it feels like it just has a lot of pressure

[visual river]

I upped the scalewarden bracers today to 447 since it has mastery vers

[crystal tulip]

I'm hesitating to use resources because i'm not sure how to use them correctly yet :D

[ruby temple]

Can always just hold and see how it shakes out and your vault on Tuesday

[graceful ginkgo]

Big nerf to sharpen, Arms is dead

[south kestrel]

Legit?

And i just bought a full set of non mastery stuff feelsbadman

[visual river]

Spam epic bg, need like 7k honor for fully upgraded polearm though ..

[south kestrel]

Upgrade only applies pve tho right

Pvp ilvl doesnt get altered

[visual river]

It feels like the stats are noticeably different

Hp wise anyway

[south kestrel]

Outside of pvp yes

It scales up in pvp to 437 anyway

[visual river]

It would make a difference in wpvp right? My hp is noticeably higher in the arena or bg compared to wpvp

[south kestrel]

Not sure about wpvp tbh because i dont bother with it

[crystal tulip]

the pvp itemlevel effect is only in instanced pvp

that's why

[torpid roost]

Uhhhh... so I've been shitcanning multiple people simultaneously with 260khp and the stats of a 366ilvl player? Wrong.

[south kestrel]

?

[vapid tartan]

it doesnt matter what the level of your gear is the instant you enter combat it gets scaled to pvp ilvl

[stiff dust]

fury require haste first ?

[lean burrow]

fury require bitches first

https://tenor.com/view/dab-squidward-gif-10751147

[lethal sandal]

dunno, i am struggling with fury on 1600-1700mmr. feels like every lobbyy is triple caster with lock, hunter, mage or boomy

but maybe i am just bad and need to wait for inflation to kick in to reach 1800 again

[limber relic]

Bruh why they gotta kill arms lik3 this....

U have all these classes being op af

Imagine locks being buffed 😂😂😂

[tawny brook]

Big nerf into a caster meta. No thanks