pvp

[torpid roost]

arms

SKS Arms, specifically

other stuff is viable though

[spare leaf]

SKS?

[gaunt crow]

Skullsplitter

[spare leaf]

Oh yeah thats a new thing for me 😄

So arms then, I'm relieved. Thanks a lot. Where does one go for talents reliably? Is Icy veins still a thing?

[torpid roost]

it is - but I would copy directly off of top warriors for whatever you want to do

at least until you get a feel for what a comp needs/what you need to adjust yourself

skullsplitter does okay damage and generates a small amount of rage

but it instantly expires rend/DW

as in, blows all the ticks at the same time "expires"

[rancid heath]

so I could run same gear for arms and fury correct ?

[torpid roost]

always could but I imagine now is a really good time to do that

[elfin surge]

time to win

in 3 hours im stuck at work

[torpid roost]

let me borrow your healer for 2.5 hours

[spare leaf]

Oh what the hell... So it just hits all the bleed ticks at the same time?

[torpid roost]

yes

[spare leaf]

lmao that sounds kinda broken

[wanton sun]

24% haste / 14% crit in honor gear. I think I need to buy some different pieces lol

[high lake]

Can see some big numbers with it, quite nice if you remember to use it x_x Still getting used to the change.

[torpid roost]

21 sec CD and you do have to reapply bleeds, but, yes

especially inside of a sharpen window

[tawny brook]

When are the servers supposed to be back up

[torpid roost]

lmfao

Jeb!

[spare leaf]

So do most people only really play Fury for BGs then?

Or why do i see every warrior and their mother play it

[torpid roost]

it's easier

arguably better for random bgs

[oblique patrol]

People probably just testing rn - but fury does have a better design concept for battlegrounds in general

[torpid roost]

3 button spec and good self healing

[oblique patrol]

Better toolkit as well - Barbarian talent and Bloodrage enables you to cover more ground in general

[spare leaf]

Oh I see

Okay 🙂 thanks

[pale minnow]

hey guys conquest and honor will be reseted tomorrow?

[rancid heath]

no confirmed

[floral mirage]

honor didn't reset

[dark sparrow]

It’s live in NA right now, honor didn’t reset. Conquest was obviously getting reset

[pale minnow]

thanks!

[rustic sentinel]

what stats are arms warriors running since the crit nerf in 10.1? do we still build Verse Crit? Or do we switch to Verse Haste?

[oblique patrol]

Vers/Haste as we opt for a bleed build now

[vapid tartan]

full haste honor fine bois?

what % vers is it coming out too

[sick breach]

im at 432 and my vers is at 32%

[rustic sentinel]

stack as much haste as possible? or to a certain cap?

[vapid tartan]

damn bois did conq even get turned into gold?

didnt get converted to honor or gold i think'

:c

[oblique patrol]

Pretty certain we have a break point around 20%, so we want a healthy mix, if someones done the math to confirm if we exceed it, hopefully they will say 😛

[torpid roost]

haste no longer has a softcap

[oblique patrol]

Does it not?

[torpid roost]

there's breakpoints where you slip in extra gcds in CS and such

and DR still applies at 30%

but nah

[gray umbra]

ignore pain doesnt heal

[torpid roost]

infinite benefit scaling

[oblique patrol]

Hmm okay, then i guess get as much as you can, maybe we reconsider at 30%

[rustic sentinel]

Interesting. it'll be fun to see how it is adjusted as the season goes on

[floral mirage]

hey guys

we keeping 4 set or 2 set until we get the new one?

or just replace everything with new honor gear?

[gray umbra]

honor gear

[vapid tartan]

wow jesus full haste no gems gives 30% haste in pvp

[gray umbra]

way better

[vapid tartan]

can probably drop some for crit?

[prime fern]

Is there any use for S1 sparks with S2 launching?

[vapid tartan]

not really

gotta use the shadowflame to upgrade to 450 anyway iirc

so the move is conq on off pieces, upgrade wpvp if no vault wep?

[tawny brook]

Fury is still mastery then haste?

[vapid tartan]

seems kinda shit to spend 2 caps almost on wep first

[gray umbra]

caps?

[vapid tartan]

1350 conq per week at beginning

[gray umbra]

i wouldnt upgrade wpvp gear, youll need sparks for embellished gear

oh

gotcha

[vapid tartan]

wep is 1800

so youd have to spend about a week and a half worth of conq

[gray umbra]

yeah, is what it is i guess

[vapid tartan]

no crit sword this time

interesting

[tawny brook]

Is that cap per spec

Or per character

[vapid tartan]

per toon

yeah

[tawny brook]

K

[gray umbra]

therees a crit vers axe

dunno why u wouldnt get the haste sword tho

for honor atleast, i see conq doesnt have now

[royal rose]

What’s embellished gear?

[gray umbra]

precog, movement impaied gives you dmg buff stacks, etc

the gear with effects that u can only ahve 2 of

infuruious boots

[royal rose]

Ohh I was thinking you meant don’t upgrade wpvp with trophy’s haha

[vapid tartan]

yeah full haste gear seems to give 25% haste on the orc 30% on the human think we can go a few crit or mast pieces depending on which is better

gonna try mixing it up on the gnome

[gray umbra]

mastery imo

for bigger sks and single target dmg

more healz

[vapid tartan]

yeah it just feels wierd going mastery xd

[gray umbra]

ikr

debating what honor wpn to get rn...

[vapid tartan]

is it fine to just hit the 20% haste? thats the breakpoint right

[gray umbra]

haste or mast hmmmmmmm

[glad pier]

Is it worth using the season 1 tier set this patch? Or is it just better to fully upgrade to the new honor gear?

[gray umbra]

considering that the honor gear is like 10 ilvls higher

lol

[vapid tartan]

nah full honor

[craggy geyser]

lol

[vapid tartan]

is what u want

[glad pier]

Yeah thats what I was thinking. Wasn't sure if 10 ilvls beats out the old set bonuses

[vapid tartan]

it does

[craggy geyser]

we going vers haste weapons?

2h sword?

[vapid tartan]

no harm in going full haste and swapping once more info comes out

can get like a wep after a epic bg anyway

[frail badge]

is the DR of shockwave shared with stormbolt?

[obsidian loom]

Yea it's a stun

[frail badge]

ok thanks

when should i use shockwave over stormbolt then?

[obsidian loom]

When you have the cooldown

[frail badge]

oh

[obsidian loom]

Or if you line up a double stun

[vapid tartan]

probably want to be stormbolding healer and shockwave your kill target

[frail badge]

i thought it would not last as long if i have recentlly used stormbolt

[obsidian loom]

But don't dr healer if your go isn't ready otherwise you're a pepega

[frail badge]

thanks that is a good idea

i only play solo a i only want the 1800 transmog

[vapid tartan]

youd probably want shockwave on kill target since it needs to be aimed somewhat

you can just spam healer bolt macro and it will land anyway

[obsidian loom]

Unless they fubared cr inflation (they said they want lfg and RSS to have similar cr distribution)

You can get it this week

[vapid tartan]

wont this week have all the gods queuing into us

[craggy geyser]

2nd trinket for orc other than Medallion?

is which?

[obsidian loom]

In RSS it doesn't matter

[vapid tartan]

insignia probably

[craggy geyser]

ok cool

[vapid tartan]

but both give haste in honor version

so

lol

[obsidian loom]

Also blizz seems to never reset mmr

[craggy geyser]

insignia does? @vapid tartan ?

[vapid tartan]

the honor badge and insignia give haste

[obsidian loom]

So if you're a keyboard turner you'll still match with keyboard turners

[vapid tartan]

conq badge gives crit

[obsidian loom]

Are RSS queue times disgusting atm?

I can't log today so

[vapid tartan]

probably for the best lol

[frail badge]

so as orc should i use insignia with sigil or the medallion? i was under the assumption that the orcs racial for cc got nerfed into the ground so you still need medallion

[vapid tartan]

you always want medallion+ a dps trinket

[frail badge]

oh ok thanks

thats what i ahve been doing

is the stat priority in the pins considered the best or is it still ongoing on what is considered optimal

[floral mirage]

where to spend shadowflame spark?

helm or boots?

[vapid tartan]

boots

dont go helm

the embellish doesnt seem to be that good compared to melee precog tbh

and 510 str on boots every cc looks strong

[floral mirage]

i see

so, buy honor helm?

[vapid tartan]

yeah probably spark on boots and honor everything

[floral mirage]

ok, ty 😄

[vapid tartan]

i guess you could hold spark longer tho to be safe

[inner elbow]

whats our 2nd embellishment gonna be?

i assume its either the snare one, the shadowflame dot thingy or the cloak if it doesnt get nerfed

[craggy geyser]

we can get another spark today right?>

[inner elbow]

next week i think

[craggy geyser]

finishing questline worth right now then?

[frail badge]

are the enchants we should use as arms the same as last season or have they changed

[frail badge]

what do sparks do

[craggy geyser]

craft the embellishment gear

[frail badge]

oh ok thanks

[craggy geyser]

says 9 min avg que on Solo Shuff

[gaunt crow]

whats the embllishment we should be using?

[sly bramble]

is new embllishment good?

[hasty fractal]

Hi all, should I hang on to my 424 tier gear or replace it with 437 honour gear today?

[gray umbra]

jfc

[torpid roost]

it's like 200 extra mainstat

upgrade your shit

[hasty fractal]

The Pin says "Fury IS TURBOSHIT NOW BTW", is that good or bad? 😉

[inner elbow]

good

[hasty fractal]

Most of the pvp guides are arena/shuffle focused, same in RBGs?

[inner elbow]

not sure, i think fury is ok in bgs

[torpid roost]

for rbgs I'd adjust slightly

personally I use a SKS build but I take blood and thunder

could argue for doing all the mitigation talents as well in rbgs as you'll often be the target but a lot of them aren't good value imo and I don't know what you'd drop

[inner elbow]

i think he asked if fury is bad in bgs too

or did i misunderstand

[torpid roost]

I don't have a strong opinion there, I took this as 2 separate questions

[inner elbow]

[torpid roost]

rated bgs, I wouldn't fury

random bgs, I would 100% recommend fury unless you hate it

[fossil mortar]

Random bgs when noone focus you, even with 10 stacks of deathwish. Ton of fun

[torpid roost]

kek

[floral mirage]

hey, no unhinged?

[torpid roost]

I so badly want deathwish to be good

most don't run it with the sks build no

bladestorm is a CC escape

[floral mirage]

ok ok

[hasty fractal]

/targer

[stark reef]

I saw R1 fury use deathwish - maybe just snapshotted a random game but he ran deathwish, warbringer, slaughterhouse last I checked

If you know your kill-windows very well I can see it being a banger

[torpid roost]

hahahaha

that's balllllllsy

[stark reef]

But that’s above my pay grade - I just Zerg people

[torpid roost]

or he was fucking around in bgs

[stark reef]

That’s what I mean - probably a random thing

He didn’t use it during the actual season but I checked 3 days ago and he had it in there

[torpid roost]

as I like to turn on fury warriors in rated

and ah

yeah no DW is fucking HILARIOUS/fun

needs to stay up longer

I love using it in world content

[spice hornet]

how are these 2 still not banned lmao

been RMT boosting since slands

[stark reef]

How’d you even verify that

I can ask you to send me a zelle here on discord and blizzard can’t do shit

Can’t ban me for playing the game with you

[torpid roost]

speaking of

Zelle me

[stark reef]

My onlyfans budget for the month is already ran through

[spice hornet]

frost dk stonks going up? my bud just hit a 126k NORMAL oblit

[stark reef]

I know blizzard cracked down on the boosting services but I think those guys went full megamind with payroll and stuff?

[floral mirage]

we use slam now?

[torpid roost]

coom'd

[vapid tartan]

time to start one

head to goldshire on moonguard and sell feet pics or smth

[stark reef]

True, the real grind is to make an onlyfans to pay for onlyfans

Gotta respect that, tbh

[unreal harness]

hows fury going to be in 10.1?

[vapid tartan]

Aren’t like most only fans leaked on Reddit or some shit

[craggy geyser]

can we only get to 6/7 on campaign?

[vapid tartan]

Think campaign is timegates

Remember reading it somewhere

[craggy geyser]

yeah wondering if we can only get to 6/7 until next tuesday

[vapid tartan]

did you do campaign up till the raid?

[elfin surge]

i think the last chapter is set after the raid

[vapid tartan]

Mud pls stream today

I don’t wanna pay attention in math class

[elfin surge]

lmao

i might stream F tier tsg

[vapid tartan]

opinions on honor gear? We going full 25% haste fuck everything else?

[craggy geyser]

@vapid tartan it just says "return later to learn of Ebyssians plan"

[vapid tartan]

hm probably after raid then

[elfin surge]

time gated

[craggy geyser]

ok

[vapid tartan]

ugh I don’t wanna do pve shit

grinding fucking m+

[elfin surge]

its the ending of the patch set after the raid

not out yet

[craggy geyser]

im deff not doing pve

[elfin surge]

saying like

story wise

[craggy geyser]

no no i know

im saying yermal

talking about M+

[vapid tartan]

Imma try for a fast aotc and focus on pvp lol

is askhandur nerfed In pvp yet?

[torpid roost]

lmfao if not it will be soon

that's just too good

[vapid tartan]

Some ce raiders boutta parse on us lul

[torpid roost]

then again we'll have 600khp or so pretty fast

[magic wing]

Feelsgood to have named weapon again

[vapid tartan]

Incarnate sky splitter was p cool

I liked the heroic color

[magic wing]

Eh npc weapon kinda

[wary heart]

arms nerfs are in and are huge for pvp... ms healing penalty effects reduced by 25% and sharpen nerfed by 50%, skullsplitter only does 3 ticks of bleeds now

[vapid tartan]

Bro wat

[elfin surge]

arms nerfs are in and are huge for pvp... ms healing penalty effects reduced by 25% and sharpen nerfed by 50%, skullsplitter only does 3 ticks of bleeds now

[wary heart]

[near delta]

https://tenor.com/view/please-say-sike-eric-andre-gif-14690972

[elfin surge]

im in the rogue cord

[near delta]

Remember when rogues were gaslighting like that wouldn't be good at all

[elfin surge]

[near delta]

Oh is that what arms nerfs they want?

[spice hornet]

surv dam is pretty nuts

[vapid tartan]

can the veil shit be dispelled?

[halcyon ravine]

Warrior is so busted :)

:((

[dawn mauve]

yo, any tips/talent builds for arms this season?

[vapid tartan]

and by removing harmful phsyical effects does this include cs, roar, rend, deep wounds etc?

[inner elbow]

yep

[oblique patrol]

Because Rogue needed a bubble with all the other stuff they have :))

[vapid tartan]

Jesus Christ

that’s pretty strong

[inner elbow]

blizzard moment

[vapid tartan]

can it be dispelled?

[oblique patrol]

Blizzard thinking the blind nerf would destroy rogues, so they compensate it by giving them bubble

[halcyon ravine]

Cope

[elfin surge]

Still working it out my bro but this works well

@halcyon ravine is a rogue main

[oblique patrol]

Im looking forward to RMP being the most dominant comp in 3s because thats never happened right?

[spice hornet]

survival jungle is going to be disgusting

survival is #1 dam even when sitting at pillar LoSing

[elfin surge]

rogue mage players would gaslight you into believing it was never viable

[obsidian loom]

Lord knows this is the truest statement in this discord

[obsidian loom]

You seem lost

[halcyon ravine]

What no I’m right

Big dam

Big 120k ms

Big dam

[obsidian loom]

Yeah

[tawny brook]

None of this is happening right?

[obsidian loom]

And

[vapid tartan]

most classes do that with all cds popped

lol

[wary heart]

all true, ret wings extended by 10 seconds too

[halcyon ravine]

Buff ret

[wary heart]

[rotund trellis]

that shockwave dip tho..

[elfin surge]

no.

[halcyon ravine]

Yes

Ret superior

Rogue the king

[oblique patrol]

Ofcourse, god forbid blizzard finds out and nerfs them

[elfin surge]

[halcyon ravine]

Warriors are peasants

GET BACK TO THE FIELD BOI

[elfin surge]

rogue scum

[wary heart]

frost your profile is you ok man

[elfin surge]

go back to your sewer

[halcyon ravine]

Only with you :)

;)

[wary heart]

take mud we dont want him

[elfin surge]

[halcyon ravine]

We can hold hands together!

[elfin surge]

[wary heart]

mud makes us look bad

[halcyon ravine]

And go to the sewer together <3

[wary heart]

i cant hit buttons like mud

[dawn mauve]

ty

[elfin surge]

im being lured to the sewer by scum rogue main

[wary heart]

plus dekel is a wholesome, moral, beacon of light

[vapid tartan]

guys saying gay shit to your healer before round starts boosts winrate by 15%

[elfin surge]

rogue mains are half my weight, should be okay.

[wary heart]

imagine considering yourself a rogue main

how much soy do you consume

pika's about 130lbs at peak condition

[elfin surge]

rogue mains are frail

[halcyon ravine]

Me?

Oh this is me

https://tenor.com/view/blacky-buff-gif-20945240

[halcyon ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/us-air-force-army-vet-us-air-force-supports-voting-rights-veterans-day-gif-23413007

[wary heart]

imagine this guy dabbing on you in the 1800 bracket

after cloaking

[shut barn]

thats not the best measure but ok

[elfin surge]

[halcyon ravine]

Bro pikaboo

Is the king

[tawny brook]

Where can I see this or were you joking

[halcyon ravine]

I look up to him he’s a god…

[shut barn]

we are talking about a video games and bro is talking about how big ppl are physically

[wary heart]

brother buster if you cant slow roll troll idk why you're here fam

[wary heart]

you must be new here

[shut barn]

yea bro

u can check it

[tawny brook]

Seems like a weak troll

[vapid tartan]

don’t make him explain the joke bro

[wary heart]

this discord is for the pins and that's about it, the rest of it is shittalking and some dude from stockholm that really likes to talk american politics

[tawny brook]

I know

[halcyon ravine]

Rogue is life

Rogue is love

Rogue is everything

[tawny brook]

Ive been here long enough to realize that, but sometimes useful stuff is posted

[wary heart]

no nerfs my friend

yet at least

[vapid tartan]

[wary heart]

one spec that does needs some love is hpal so i can actually heal again

[vapid tartan]

lol fuck that warrior heal spec when

[wary heart]

im down

"combat medic"

make it play like tf2 medic

[halcyon ravine]

Warrior heal a lot

Big dam

[shut barn]

val'kyr is not a warrior like ?

maybe something like fistweaver heal spec warrior

D:

[wary heart]

new warrior spec

[elfin surge]

arms nerfs are in and are huge for pvp... ms healing penalty effects reduced by 25% and sharpen nerfed by 50%, skullsplitter only does 3 ticks of bleeds now

[wary heart]

i cant believe ion would do this

[halcyon ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cope-cursed-gif-25667684

[elfin surge]

👉😎👈

[vapid tartan]

Is Australia real?

[lean burrow]

i'd reroll rogue if it happened

[tall fox]

no

[lean burrow]

[wary heart]

yes

ret buffed to

[tall fox]

[vapid tartan]

They needed it tbh

Shoulda just made glad mount for rets a wheelchair

I’d swap to ret for that

[frail badge]

which of the current pinned builds works best in solo shuffle iyo?

[vapid tartan]

Ppl saying shockwave is good but sks is prolly the safest

[torpid roost]

did they fucking nerf arms? are we serious right now

[vapid tartan]

Yes

[torpid roost]

I'm happy for the extra rogue tools

but fuck that shit

tooltips are of course not updated

because blizzard is competent

[wary heart]

[frail badge]

? both sks and non sks builds in pins have shockwave

[vapid tartan]

Oh do they now

Lul mb

I’ve been queueinf without it and regular sks is still working well

[frail badge]

ok thanks i might try the sks version in skirmish to test how i feel about it, i got 1800 last season without sks so not sure how to utilize it currenttly

also does anyone know the best enchants for pvp or are they the same as last season

[vapid tartan]

Sks seems kinda mandatory tbh

basically

You want to refresh bleeds and then cs

Sks during recklessness is big

[frail badge]

ok thanks i did not know that

should i not use blademaster with sks then? i was using blademaster before

[vapid tartan]

No

I mean I think I saw some people running it

[torpid roost]

it's still full expiring my bleeds

[vapid tartan]

But I think that’s matchup right

[torpid roost]

so does it only count 3 ticks?

the fuck is this

[vapid tartan]

bro

[wary heart]

[vapid tartan]

They were trolling

[tawny brook]

Is it the same gems as last season

[torpid roost]

that sounded like some shit blizzard would do

so troll got me

until I tested it

[wary heart]

thats why i wrote it

[vapid tartan]

[wary heart]

bc that's how they balance

[torpid roost]

job calls for a sledgehammer

just whack it in this direction

[wary heart]

ion goes to chatgpt and asks what nerfs he should implement

[torpid roost]

actually like that my rogue might live through a solo shuffle now though

[vapid tartan]

Ngl it was fun bannering and disarming them all day long

[wary heart]

this is what bard would do to us

[frail badge]

should i finally stop using the keys "Q" and "E" to strafe and bind them to ability's instead? would that be more optimal for pvp?

[vapid tartan]

Yes cleave is broken

[wary heart]

you joke but blizzard nerfed deathwish like a month ago

[vapid tartan]

Think it’s just pref

[wary heart]

ive not seen a single person use deathwish ever

[vapid tartan]

what even is death wish

[wary heart]

my daily vibe

[warm portal]

Deathwish is for chads ONLY

[frail badge]

thanks, i am trying to decide what key to bind sks to but i cant find a good one, but if i drop strafe it would work

[undone pumice]

bg talent for alpha males

[vapid tartan]

I mean I found using a mmo mouse useful cause I came from playing fps games so always had more control with my right hand

[warm portal]

Get a foot pedal

[frail badge]

yeah i have razer naga and i use every key along with modifiers

[vapid tartan]

I’ve got most of my offensive abilities and other shit on the mouse and defensives on the board

[wary heart]

i actually just got an elgato pedal today

im excited to use it

[vapid tartan]

Pedal stance swap?

[frail badge]

i do acctualy have a clutch pedal from my driving sim set up that i dont use

[wary heart]

pedal will be right shift

[frail badge]

but that would be weird feeling i think

[frail badge]

i do control+2 for stance swap

[vapid tartan]

I can send u a ss of my shit in like 10mins I just use a control modifier cause my shift key is too sticky lol

[frail badge]

ok cool that would help

[vapid tartan]

@frail badge

[spice hornet]

a sub rogue hit me for 153k evis non crit

hmm

[vapid tartan]

0.0

oh boy

how did the games feel otherwise?

anything diff in honor

[spice hornet]

lots of stuff feels good

outlaw is so annoying

survival pumps

[rotund trellis]

where slam

[vapid tartan]

when tf do you ever press slam

[near delta]

How's outlaws damm?

[spice hornet]

decent

the control is busted

[obsidian loom]

@elfin surge can you screencap which honor pieces you got

i cant think for myself

[dark sparrow]

Prob just mix of haste & crit

[obsidian loom]

what a champ

[vapid tartan]

yessir

[obsidian loom]

haste>mast>crit?

[vapid tartan]

p sure he just went full haste when available and crit after that

[obsidian loom]

haste crit?

k

[vapid tartan]

yeah some slots theres only option for crit

[craggy geyser]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1103280861497004093/1105500013582368810/IMG_1073.png

@obsidian loom

[glacial badge]

so what happens with conquest on s2 start

does it reset or turns into honor ?

[rotund trellis]

you get gold

it gets converted. I had around 2k conquest and got 4k gold

[glacial badge]

rip , gotta farm honor then

ty tho

[sharp meteor]

Gonna try haste/mastery on one warr, haste/crit on another

[frosty oar]

Does Arms slam at all in 10.1 ?

[sharp meteor]

Maybe full mastery with some crit on the side for bgs

I think slam build unironically got nerfed with this patch and it was already bad

[frosty oar]

TY

[sharp meteor]

rend initial damage is better

slam is just such a bad button

in a rotation that can rarely slot it in

[frosty oar]

I never liked it tbh

[sharp meteor]

Like, pressing slam can make you do less damage

[frosty oar]

I haven't played since beginning of Season 1, I'm way outta the loop

Gonna try haste/crit for now and adjust as necessary

[simple rock]

Is arms s1 2 piece nerfed by 50% now?

the tooltip isn't changing when I hit a dummy

yeah it is

[woeful solstice]

yikes s2 mount animations are kinda shot

the slitherdrake

[rancid heath]

how does fury feel?

[digital elk]

Anyone got some info on crafted?

[lean burrow]

[rotund trellis]

full honor gear, got oneshotted on wq by a monk. sadge

[woeful solstice]

yay

inb4 pve jeffs cry about how we get their mount but they cant get the glad mount

[leaden pasture]

use to use a website called murlok io i farmed some honor but dont know if i should get crit gear or haste gear for arms any one know another website i can use to buy the right honor gear

[rancid heath]

arms is haste crit or haste master ?

[stark reef]

First impressions on season boys?

I don’t think I can play anytime soon

[tawny brook]

Good luck getting an answer. You will likely just be given wrong information for le epic redditor troll

[vapid tartan]

Why are you being salty it’s literally first thing in pins

[tawny brook]

Shhh bb

[rotund trellis]

in full honor i feel like when i hit warlock I'm slapping a wet noodle on a concrete wall

[vapid tartan]

If you can’t come up with a response just say that lul

[rancid heath]

is this up to date ?

[tawny brook]

Shhhh it k bb

[vapid tartan]

Yeah it says 10.1

[leaden pasture]

just checked pins says haste over crit so we get full haste gear right

[rancid heath]

oh damn i thought fury and arms had similar stats prio 😦

[violet blade]

Best crafted piece for 10.1? Arms main

I ran LAriat and helm in s1

[vapid tartan]

Def want mostly haste, crit when not available is safe

[vapid tartan]

Idk anything about fury but think you want haste mast for that

Think they talked about that earlier

[rancid heath]

yeah i heard haste mast for fury

would haste mast for arms be trash ?

wondering if I can swap between the two with same gear haha

[leaden pasture]

is it possible to turn blue honor gear into tier or is that only conquest pvp gear

[simple rock]

going full haste

see how it feels

[stark reef]

Can’t wait

[tawny brook]

Should we be doing chest this week and weapon next week?

[vapid tartan]

It’s fine, difference in honor gear not to major

[rancid heath]

i guess we'll see long term for conquest

[lean burrow]

Anyone showed what s2 pennant looks like?

[sharp meteor]

I haven't seen it.

[lean burrow]

[tawny brook]

Where is the political guy to get this chat woke up?

[torpid roost]

believe the people you're looking for are fungus and galachad, they'll be here in their own time

or, me, the dumbass who keeps replying to their dumbassery

there's supposed to be a cap, y'know

hmmm

interesting then

anyone get the normal version of this yet

to test if this busted shit is active in pvp

[rotund trellis]

where is the world pvp gear upgrade guy? in the new cave?

[frail badge]

why is my my pvp medallion activation and going on cooldown automatically when i get stunned or loose control and its not even doing anything

[craggy geyser]

Glitch?

[rotund trellis]

Are you a dark iron dwarf?

[tawny brook]

He better be with that name

[rotund trellis]

do you have the old medallion in bags binded to your action bars?

[craggy geyser]

Lmfaooooo

[frail badge]

no im orc arms warrior

it is causing me to play liek crap

[rotund trellis]

check your bags

if you have the old one in bag and the new one ninded, you're actually swapping the 2 instead of activating

[frail badge]

i thought about that and its the right on on bar

im not even pressing the keybind tho

it activates by itself

and then does not even romove the stun

[craggy geyser]

Reload game then maybe?

[vapid tartan]

Yeah make sure you swap the icon

That happens

[royal rose]

bro why does it feel like im doing no damage lol

[torpid roost]

I die far too easily but I still dirt people in seconds, so can't identify

Post a video

[frail badge]

thanks guys ill try fixing it, also is sks much better then the non sks build in the pins? it seems silly but that one extra keybind is really throwing my off and hard to pay attention with the new thunderclap and shockwave keybinds also as i did not have any of that last season and just used the non sks bleed build with blademasters

[clear quiver]

ayy guys, what craftables we supposed to focus first?

[vapid tartan]

yeah it’s awkward at first but sks is def worth it. When playing tclap you can try swapping rend to something out of the way and tclap in its place

[rotund trellis]

Is there any significant update on the enchantments? Any new recipe or stuff?

[tawny brook]

Is dk still terribad?

[mossy meadow]

just starting with PVP: should I craft a full set first or buy the initial honor gear from the vendor?

[rotund trellis]

dont craft now, the prices are insane

spoiler alers, warlocks are fucking busted

[royal rose]

yeah destro is nuts

[rotund trellis]

like, they're tankier than paladins

[tawny brook]

Hunter is sounding better and better

With all the op wizards

[rotund trellis]

hunter is busted as well

people are literally queueing up 3x dps on ladder

on 2v2 is all dps haven't seen a healer in 15+ games

record, this arena lasted 4 seconds, warlock / shadow priest with me fully bubbled by a monk

[lean burrow]

so I should start getting rival sets on lock/hunter first?

[severe skiff]

warlocks deserve this, finally viable

[rotund trellis]

viable is a thing, immortal OP is another

[ruby temple]

so how does recrafting our old pvp gear work. If I use my shadowflame to boost it to 437 pvp ilvl will I need another spark to get it to 450 pvpilvl?

[rotund trellis]

oh, also we're main target in every SS

and trust me, there's NO WAY IN HELL you can survive rogue enh and MM hunteer

[vapid tartan]

how did the 2 rounds with enh go?

[rotund trellis]

annihilater

they're op[

[urban skiff]

When is the season starting in EU?

an an hour or what?

[obsidian loom]

No need to rush lock they're always good

[torpid roost]

Fun trivia question, what is the class with the most r1 titles?

[near delta]

Ret?

[tawny brook]

Are there new enchants coming out or is it still just homebound speed, sustained strength, etc?

[torpid roost]

K e k. No like, r1 titles from s1-current

[near delta]

Yeah probably ret

[torpid roost]

The answer is warlock. They're present and strong every season.

[near delta]

Or do you mean since the start of arena lol

I feel warr is probably still higher

[torpid roost]

Yes since the start of arena, tbc

Warrior isn't very high

[near delta]

Where do you see the list?

I started playing in sl so yeah that makes sense

[torpid roost]

Seeing if I can find an updated list

Also the recent titles mean quite a bit less, as there's a ton of them, used to be only the top team on each battlegroup got them

[south kestrel]

what stats are most of us running for arms now

[torpid roost]

Not like they're welfare now or something but there's 300-some in the US per season now

[torpid roost]

Vers obviously, haste for sure, I'm going mastery as the third

[near delta]

Yeah the number got huge with the alt change

So @elfin surge doesn't get 5

[torpid roost]

Also the alt change, but that was needed, lol

Had crusader facerolling 14 paladins to r1

[rotund trellis]

@elfin surge best compliment of my life

after a lucky 5 streak in 3v3

[frail badge]

what are the craftable gear arms warrior wants? so i know which item not to spend my mark of mastery

and is it the same craftable stuff that was good last season or is there new gear

[torpid roost]

We don't 100% know yet

[stark reef]

Games aren't bad tbh - I am fkn cooked but pace seems very similar to last season

[ruby temple]

yeah tbh I always felt like the target last season. just locks and hunters bullying. they fear the arms

[indigo barn]

How's the burst looking ATM?

Do people fall over randomly or that gone?

[elfin surge]

LOL

[stark reef]

Given I only played 2 lobbies at 1800 mmr it feels ok - had one with a 0/6 healer but so far no random oneshots - everyone pressing their buttons, games usually end with someone losing after ~90sec

[indigo barn]

Sounds good

[stark reef]

Little longer than 90sec but I barely ever get my second CD's out

[indigo barn]

That's good for us

[river trench]

Fury still in the shitter with 10.1?

[stark reef]

Nah

[river trench]

is it pretty comparable to arms or not quite?

[stark reef]

Hard to tell how close - guessing a bit closer than last season but arms better at the top end

[rotund trellis]

seems a little bit slower to me, like, less one shots

[royal rose]

Idk I saw @elfin surge and pk straight up delete some people on his stream tonight

[elfin surge]

tsg still F tier

[sage raptor]

Say it ain't so

[mortal remnant]

morning, arms warri Season 2 arena go haste versa or need some crit?

[visual river]

should we just hold all the conquest for the week?

[muted surge]

Yes

You want the wep first anyway

[tawny brook]

We can get chest week 1 and weapon week 2

I think it is 25 points less than max to do it that way

[lean burrow]

why do I sometimes apply rend with mortal strike?

im in epic bg

[floral mirage]

reworked talent

Bloodletting

[lean burrow]

nvm, i found it

yeah, bloodletting

[arctic gull]

Do we keep some tier pieces for now or just forgo them and get more stamina through honor pieces?

[muted surge]

Isn’t the old Tier not nerfed aswell ?

You prob just run full honor

[arctic gull]

Hm

[muted surge]

Is eu up already?

[arctic gull]

Yeah

[muted surge]

Ty

[tawny brook]

Fury is mastery>haste?

I would be

[mint pulsar]

did ppl go boots or we holding?

for crafted

[tawny elm]

do you guys enchant honor gear?

[left jungle]

yes please

[mortal remnant]

can you link your talents pls

[arctic gull]

Yeah, but I have a ton of gold so 😄

[tawny elm]

alrite

gonna get some cheap ones 🙂

[vapid tartan]

Damn this shit rough for the healers

[tawny brook]

I just saw a fury build that went spear of bastion and no roar. Is that wrong?

[teal hedge]

Seems inefficient

Considering the crit nerfs

[tawny brook]

He didnt go annihilator either

All the fun parts are gone with that build lol

[torpid roost]

I have a fury build that doesn't have spear

but I never don't have roar

what the fuck

[swift folio]

what ivl is the 1600 rating t set piece you get ?

[indigo barn]

You get too choose I believe

[dull egret]

What stats we going for in s2?

as fury

[tawny brook]

Mastery

[dull egret]

Mastery, vers, haste, crit?

[lean burrow]

is there no stone that gives special effects on armor?

like incarnate thunderstone in s1

[prime lion]

@elfin surge lad how the Fuck do you already have a tier chest

what have i missed

[severe skiff]

1600 rating achievement gives you a token

that lets you buy EITHER a pvp tier piece or a pve tier piece

same vendor sells both, make sure to buy the pvp one for 450 pvp ilvl

alternatively, hold token til you get a piece of tier from vault so you dont get the same piece

[torpid roost]

6-0 first shuffle, woooooooooo

however, the lobby was 1700... so..... .... ewwww

given that I won some of those rounds by the slimmest of margins

[junior glacier]

Solo queue as DPS is still 30/45min?

[visual karma]

hi all, is it just me or does arms feel weak for season 2 ? i feel im performing so much worse than season 1 :/

[gaunt notch]

so as a casual pvper who generally sucks.. this season is starting of well for me

[torpid roost]

so far I'm crushing, but, I'm a bit underrated at the moment, and I've had a lot of veeerrrry close games

so we'll see once I hit like, 1800ish

My kill pressure seems fine, it's just.... Christ everyone seems to hit HARD

[gaunt notch]

the stamina buff did nothing!

[torpid roost]

well, stam got buffed and crit got nerfed, so you'd think pressure would go down

then they uh

gave everyone 25% more mainstat

[opal acorn]

How do u not have the elite helm but have the shoulder?

[gaunt notch]

cause you get https://www.wowhead.com/item=204843/draconic-mark-of-mastery# at 1600 and it lets you buy heroic / elite teir

[south kestrel]

Legit first day so gods are going to be ranking up still

Ofc its going to feel cooked

[opal acorn]

What is this sorcery

[lean burrow]

the games are slower

[opal acorn]

Anyway we go sks now yes?

[south kestrel]

Sks?

[gaunt notch]

skill speed?

sus

[lean burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/sks-rifle-bump-fire-gif-19598887

sks

[opal acorn]

Skullsplitter

[torpid roost]

Well, that lobby is blizzards way of saying fuck off to bed I think

Prot pal, 2 warriors, sub rogue, havoc dh

[vapid tartan]

Who is kill target against sham/ww/mage

[torpid roost]

mage, probably

which will lead to a long, annoying game

[gaunt notch]

i just went 1 / 5 in solo queue and still gained rating

[hot solstice]

wtf is that 2400 spear????

where is sword/mace/axe????

[steep inlet]

urg

i dont like arms s2 at all

feels like BFA

with crit nerf etc

feels so bland

hate it

[gaunt notch]

its all haste now

[steep inlet]

like bfa, i fucking hate it

[gaunt notch]

well after vers but thats a given

[vapid tartan]

why is there only elite polearm this season

looks ass

[gaunt notch]

not just elite, conquest too

[dark sparrow]

You sure? Cause we got 1350 cap now, next week will be 2100 or 2050 prob

Also I think you should just get the tier chest with token

[gaunt notch]

maybe they mean Wpvp weapon season 1 it was only 3 ilvls off in pvp

[fickle forge]

Shadowlands classic when?

[steep inlet]

for real

i fucking hate this arms feeling

remember BFA

beuurgl

[lean burrow]

what's max pve ilvl on conquest items?

[elfin surge]

this is just beautiful

[undone pumice]

mortal stirk

how do u have too many binds as woyer lmao

[severe fable]

is there any need to keep the world pvp gear after buying honor gear?

[gaunt notch]

my mistake, i thought this was a place to get advice

[elfin surge]

[lean burrow]

ty

[nimble forge]

is it looted with elite rank 9/9 or do you upgrade it with honor @elfin surge

[gaunt notch]

its looted with 9/9

[nimble forge]

but the 450 ilvl is looted with the challenger 2 token?

[elfin surge]

yeah

[nimble forge]

nice

[rancid heath]

as a healer i legit feel its worse ppl die even quicker this is such a fail by bliz lmao

[craggy geyser]

Of course the stamina buff did nothing because they also increased damage. It’s like increasing the minimum wage but also increasing the item being sold. It’s a horrible philosophy.

[elfin surge]

this set kinda clean tho

[opal acorn]

Ye

I don't like the boots and the pants/belt having no cloth on the back

[rancid heath]

and they wonder why no one wanna heal lmao

god damn indie devs

[mild ember]

Quick question. What's the addon called that shows what cds and defensive people pop so that I can adjust accordingly? Thanks.

[mint pulsar]

theres a few and people use either 1, 2 or a variation/combination of em

Omnibar is good
GladiatorLossa if you want someone to tell you when people use CDs
Variations of Gladiusex to only track CDs in combination with sArena
Nameplatecooldowns is another
Oh, forgot, Weakauras (many use Mes weakaura that you can find on wago by searching for "Mes")

Pick your poison @mild ember ❤️

[halcyon ravine]

Guys…I’m maining warrior…

@elfin surge LETS HOLD HANDS INTO GLORY AS WARRIORS AND GO TO THE SUn!!

[elfin surge]

[halcyon ravine]

[mild ember]

Thanks buddy!! 😊

[frail badge]

was wreking throw with demolition talent nerfed? i remember it used to almost completely get rid of a monk bubble and now it i feel like it does hardly anything

[dark sparrow]

Man just got my first loss in 2’s so I’m 13-1 now. Against affli disc priest, that shit was just omega aids

[frail badge]

im a not the best but try using the rebound honor talent if your not already and try and kite him away from his healer/partner, also since he is demo, maybe dont rely on blademaster and bladestorm with unhinged if you happen to be using that as his pets will soak up all that damage

try the sks build in the pins if you have not already, i used non sks bleed build last season and i feel with this new build my burst is way higher

[dark sparrow]

I don’t play either unhinged or blademaster, that shit is ass

And demo isn’t an issue, but affli man

You hide, you die

You try to w key them, you die

Prob if I just pillar until high damp and kill him in a sks I could get him but cba

[frail badge]

try using the bitter immunity talent maybe, in the pins and tooltip it says it gets rid of the curses but i dont know if that will help as i dont know much about how locks work, also i only play solo q

[rancid heath]

bigdebuffs also

[wanton mulch]

do we use the crafted helm in pvp?

[halcyon ravine]

I felt happy…i farmed a warrior in bgs…

[elfin surge]

boots

[mint pulsar]

i might have got something wrong here but i also just learned today about the 1600-token. If you craft the 450 boots, can you not get the 450 onyx chest already this week?

like, do you have to spend one of those tokens for both?

very vague question.. might not be as clear as it is in my head 🙂

[wind ridge]

boots + https://www.wowhead.com/ptr/item=205171/figurine-of-the-gathering-storm?

or is it not that good?

[craggy geyser]

I’m not sure what you’re talking about here

[elfin surge]

you can get both

[visual river]

Is arms still getting 4pc + 2 embellish this ssn?

[mint pulsar]

another stupid question, and this might just be because wowarmory isnt updated, but have you decided to go for 450 infurious boots? says shadowflame crafted instead of ingenuity crafted

why not go for the 450 haste/vers pvp boots instead of mastery/vers?

cuz you cant get em with the same equip bonus (primary stat increase on interupt/cc)?

[jolly lance]

Yes, boots can only get that bonus.

[elfin surge]

yes

[gray umbra]

Just depends what your other slots gear is. 3/6 enchanted should get u to enough haste by Itself

[ruby temple]

Did you use your conquest to bump the boots up to 450 this week then Mud?

[dark sparrow]

No he crafted the boots

[dark sparrow]

Yea and the icd is 30s which lines up perfect with bolt

[ruby temple]

Not sure what the difference is since the boots were crafted before

[dark sparrow]

Yea and you didn’t need conq either to craft them before so not sure what you are saying my guy

[bright stream]

oof

man single night of arms

it feels real bad this season so far

[mint pulsar]

thanks ❤️

[bright stream]

I have zero survivability against all the casters

[ruby temple]

To recraft the boots to have a 450 ilvl you need to buy a token with conquest. I am asking if he did that or are you saying you can just do a brand new craft to get it at 450?

[elfin surge]

[bright stream]

yikes mane

[fierce ermine]

You don't need to buy it, do the weekly pvp quest and you'll get a token to upgrade to 450

It's added with the recraft

[ruby temple]

Oh I thought the weekly only gave a shadow flame spark but you're saying it also gives you the crest that bumps the pvp ilvl as well? :0

[stark reef]

Isn’t this the exact reason for the crit changes?

“Evoker damage too unpredictable they say…”

[oblique patrol]

Some classes look very overtuned right now - arms doesnt feel awful, your splitter goes are quite nice when you get them off, but some classes are doing so much damage with little effort

[frail badge]

@elfin surgei notice you have the conquest ring, is it better to get stuff like instead of saving for waeapon as first conqeuest item?

[elfin surge]

thats a ring from last season

save for weapon

[frail badge]

oh ok i did not realize that thanks

also i made the crafted head slot, is it possible to break it down for the mats and craft the boots instead or is not that big of a deal that i did not pick boot first

[wary frigate]

whats the stat prio looking like for arms w/ tier? does all the crit synergy make crit worth stacking even with the 175->150% crit nerf?

[gaunt notch]

Pin says vers >haste > Crit > mastery

[crude furnace]

whats your guys opener for the skullsplitter build?

[gaunt notch]

Charge, get cc'd cry

[elfin surge]

we might be going Vers > Haste > Mastery > Crit

hard to tell whats better rn

[crude furnace]

thats my exp rn

[fiery marsh]

Guys, for fury it's versa/mastery? or versa/haste?

[wary frigate]

why crit so low prio w/ tier being all around crits? will tier even be run?

[near delta]

Gotta mount in and only use charge when they actually use mobility

[elfin surge]

I dont think we are going to use the tier

stats on them suck

also nerfed by 50%

[modern ravine]

So boots are a must craft from what I'm reading? sorry new to warrior and pvp in general

[elfin surge]

yes

[modern ravine]

Thank you, take them up to 450 as well?

[wary frigate]

what's nerfed by 50%?

[elfin surge]

tier set is

[elfin surge]

yes ofc

[wary frigate]

just arms, or all teir sets? and just their effects orw hat?

first time i'm hearing htis

[elfin surge]

i think all tier set bonuses are nerfed by 50% in pvp

[wary frigate]

interesting

more impactful for some classes than others if that's the case.. for example ele sham's 2 piece is "gain stormkeeper every x seconds", how do they nerf that by 50%? double the # of seconds? lol

[elfin surge]

checked the patch notes it says gain stormkeeper every 50 seconds (100 seconds in pvp)?

[wary frigate]

ah interesting

seems like tier won't be crazy strong for too many classes then

[frail badge]

@elfin surgei have speed enchants on my bracer and cloak, would it better to enchant for leech like you did if i only play solo q?

[rancid heath]

any builds for fury?

[sharp meteor]

Season is a day old, stuff is subject to change.

Skullsplitter didn't pick up in popularity until late last season, etc.

[royal rose]

Lost power last night and it came back on and my computer wouldn’t start back up until I unplugged it from the back, my heart sank man lol

@elfin surge good stream last night sir

[elfin surge]

doesnt matter

[elfin surge]

[royal rose]

I didn’t know you were a streamer until I checked your account on check pvp, glad I did haha

[frail badge]

When setting up the bleeds to burst with sks, in addition to mortal strike and rend, should I alsonuse dragon roar for its bleed before I use sks along with avatar/reck and smash?

I have been using avatar then smash then sharpen mortal strike then rend then roar and finally sks but I don't know if that's the right order

[near delta]

I hope it fucks off eventually

[rancid heath]

as a fury in SS should I be ttop dmg in general ?

[quaint ruin]

Weird question bro

If u win games and feel like u do well, ur probably ok. But then again SS is not the best bracket for that

[rancid heath]

im just curious dmg wise how fury stands

like is my dmg on par or am I doing something wrong for my dmg output XD

[ruby temple]

To many variables. If you're in a lobby with a feral druid in your team and the enemy team is a BM/demo he's probably gonna dumpster you

[rotund trellis]

guys shall I be doing arenas instead of working?

[elfin surge]

yes

[rotund trellis]

so that people can keep thinking I'm you :pepeproud:

[elfin surge]

that shit was gold

[rotund trellis]

that screenshot costed me the match....worth it

[onyx marlin]

almost every ss lobby ive been today has been x3 caster

fml

[elfin surge]

[onyx marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-coffin-coffin-dance-funeral-funny-farewell-gif-16737844

[elfin surge]

its just over man

we are doomed

[onyx marlin]

[dark sparrow]

Pre apply rend, stack double op and put hamstring up

[dark sparrow]

Bolt heal, shock kt, rend, avatar, cs, sks, sharpen ms, roar

[fathom loom]

I feel so weak with haste stacked over crit

[onyx marlin]

bro destru is complety crazy

totally disgusting to play agaisnt

lol

[ruby temple]

All 3 specs pump. What a time to be a lock.

[unique fox]

cant wait to get trained 6 rounds straight in every ss today

[ruby temple]

Just kill them harder

[unique fox]

buff warrior imo

[stark reef]

When you queue into Bladesedge and it’s double lock & frost mage as the other DPS in the lobby:

https://youtube.com/shorts/JNitpe_eSGk?feature=share

[ruby temple]

Most locks aren't good enough for it to matter. Just kill em dead.

[fast meteor]

Question for the boys does it matter the quality of my pvp boots in pvp?

[stark reef]

The ilvl?

Absolutely

[fast meteor]

no like the simbol thingy that looks like a diamon

[stark reef]

Or the crafting quality? I have no clue on that, would expect it to affect stats so probably yes

If it doesn’t affect stats and just PvE ilvl prob not

[fast meteor]

thanks 🙂

[quaint ruin]

Full honor gear or keep tier for now?

[stark reef]

Full honor

[elfin surge]

If its a pvp item then no.

[fast meteor]

perfect 😄 ty

[limber relic]

How u get pvp tier set

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[lyric violet]

what piece did you guys upgrade with your trophies of strife?

i was thinking of hanging onto em until vault

cuz without fail whatever i used it on will appear in the vault lmao

and yall just saving conquest for weapon incase you dont get it in vault?

[elfin surge]

u get a free elite tier conquest piece for reaching 1600

are u talking about my chest?

[limber relic]

😂

Yes

[tranquil hemlock]

1600 token ^

[elfin surge]

ye new thing this ssn

[tranquil hemlock]

35 min q’s last night

Hurts me

[small osprey]

I think as long as it ain't crafted you can use revival catalyst on the piece

[worthy fern]

How would someone have a piece of elite tier already?

If they also have conq weapon

[frank knoll]

Fury s tier

[frail badge]

ok thanks you you dont have to have the bleed from mortal stirke and dragonroar before you use sks and you only need the bleed from rend?

[past silo]

mastery over crit??

for arms

[hollow jacinth]

I think sks uses both rend and deep wounds

[frail badge]

yeah thats what i thought and how i have using it along with the bleed from dragonroar

oh wow

just read tooltip

it only works for rend bleed

no wonder my burst has felt so clunky and slow to set up

[hollow jacinth]

you need to spec into tide of blood too

[frail badge]

i have been doing it wronf

[hollow jacinth]

my tooltip for sks says both rend and deep wounds

[frail badge]

ok so per tool tip just rend and mortal wounds not dragonroar bleed

yeah just read again my bad

[hollow jacinth]

right, no dragon roar

[hollow jacinth]

it gets a little less clunky on your burst because warbreaker/CS apply deep wounds

so you only have to get rend up first

[elfin surge]

TIER TOKEN MAN

[frail badge]

which skill makes smash do that?

[hollow jacinth]

i don't think its a talent. On the character info screen (where you see gear and stats etc.) if you hover over mastery it lists a few different skills that apply it

MS, Bladestorm, and warbreaker/cs (whichever one you have talented)

[frail badge]

ok thanks i did not know that

[hollow jacinth]

sure thing

[fiery marsh]

Anyone knows stat priority for fury?

[elfin surge]

mastery

all of it

[fiery marsh]

100% mastery build lets gooooo

[elfin surge]

I think its Mastery > Vers > Haste tho

[fiery marsh]

Ty MUD

[magic wing]

wtf are the elite weapons

so bad