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magic wing
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Deathwish fullstack+dmg buff and swifty oneshot 5 ppl. Was fun

ruby temple
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What if death wish stayed the same but also added some amount off cc reduction then? That way you are an unstoppable juggernaut but can still get pumped just as much as you can pump

wary heart
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fury design is so pepega its unreal

ruby temple
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Not saying full immunity to cc but if you're at 5 stacks a 3 second stun just means your ass is dead

magic wing
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Its too predictable

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You do big pump then go limp dick for a minute and sum

ruby temple
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And then y'all are saying it bugs so sometimes you don't get a stack but I assume it still takes the health? Nice way to help your healers pad their numbers I guess

rustic magnet
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It was. I remember playing this with my guildies sometimes and one time on temple map both groups clashed and with berserker buff and full death wish stacks I 1 shot entire group keks in like 5 sec I did more dmg than entire group combined

worthy fern
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A lot of pvp talents in the game need to be reworked

magic wing
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Got my reaper achiev there or w/e its called

worthy fern
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The arms one that resets op when you charge

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Wtf is that

magic wing
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Also leggos worked so had 3 leaps to jump around like a frog lol

magic wing
ruby temple
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What do you mean.arent you excited shamans can still global you but now also crawl around untargetable

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Can't wait to get knocked in the air and before I land have the meteor and lightning bolts send me to next week

wary heart
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if enh lasts in its current state for more than 2 weeks it'll be a retpocolypse situation when the gear sets drop

ruby temple
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Fury is next boys

magic wing
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Bring it

wary heart
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15% phys dam increase + 6% mastery

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🙂

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perma CS for sundering

ruby temple
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"and why shouldn't we be strong? retibu- er enhancement shaman have been dog shit for years it's totally fair now we get to 2 shot people and never die >:["

wary heart
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enh was fine last season, they're full of shit

worthy fern
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@wary heart I just started playing enhance but I feel like there will be a one shot potential with that tier and primordial wave

wary heart
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cba

ruby temple
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I just was using what ret paladins were saying during retpocalypse lol

worthy fern
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Or maybe not because primordial jsut buffs lb

wary heart
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with gear

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i still cant believe blizzard left paladins the way they were for almost 3 weeks before they fixed execution sentence

torpid roost
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And turbo is gonna be interesting

ruby temple
torpid roost
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Not even

ruby temple
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Then we look away

torpid roost
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I don't like being op-op

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Mildly op is the way to be

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Dodge the nerfbat

ruby temple
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My favorite was seeing people say ret was fine because MS hit hard too. My biggest counter to that was at least I have to walk up to a dude and hit that. Ret was swinging TV's from 20 yards for the same danage

torpid roost
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Strong, but not strong enough for everyone to automatically disregard all your accomplishments because class

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And having no wind up

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Like yeah, ms hits harder

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With 2xop 2xep cs sharpen avareck and a trinket

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That's like fucking 7 gcds to set up though

ruby temple
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"but TV costs 3 HP" >:[

torpid roost
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Them's the breaks for being a retard 2h class with combo points

vapid tartan
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Please tell me the swifty at top of ladder is not actually swifty

ruby temple
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Id kill for a "mortal throw" ability that lets me slap a mortal strike at a dude form 20 yards away

vapid tartan
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caster warrior when?

stark reef
ruby temple
vapid tartan
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I want to project my rage across the arena

ruby temple
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Playing against a good one is so obnoxious lil assholes stay just far away from you so you can't touch them and whack ya

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Then you get stunned and a hundred mongoose bites right in there

vapid tartan
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turbo looking good for s2?

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It will be nice into double casters right?

magic wing
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Swifty is playing classic HC

vapid tartan
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Maybe he has a new one shot macro

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Never know

magic wing
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On arms lol

vapid tartan
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lmao

worthy fern
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It’s not og swifty

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But that swifty has been playing for a while now

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Regular r1

vapid tartan
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Must have been if he has the name on tich

near delta
stark reef
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🤣

elfin surge
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swifty anvilmar is andrewceo

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hes good

stark reef
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Plays Nelf, to - would love to see some gameplay to see how he uses meld

elfin surge
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hes actually clean with the meld

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hes melded a few of my disarms

stark reef
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Also saw another nelf player high up in 3s - just seems something you have to have a lot of experience for

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@elfin surge that smexxin guy - is he legit playing fury in 3s or is the website showing it wrong?

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He’s also always top of the ladder in M+

elfin surge
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smexxin works for blizzard

wanton sun
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Looks like the best item to craft with the new spark is to upgrade the pvp boots for the main stat boost when you cc/interrupt?

ruby temple
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Hon hon hon I was wondering the same thing

wanton sun
vapid tartan
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So we gonna be running melee precog and in what slot?

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gathering storm embellish

stark reef
elfin surge
stark reef
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I see

elfin surge
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i know he played ret war rsham with vanguards and kaska

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arms

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the guy right below him also played arms tsg with triten and feedgod

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considerwhy

stark reef
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yeah, official blizzard page also doesn't let you filter by spec

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For 3s

cobalt crystal
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I cannot for the life of me find the Set-bonuses.. If Arms Warrior tier set no longer buffs Slam, then where do I find the updated info.

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Google has not been helpful to me. nor has wowhead

elfin surge
cobalt crystal
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Oh? Where

elfin surge
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its in the dungeon journal under shadowlands loot for some reason

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dont ask me why its there

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but it is

cobalt crystal
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uh..

elfin surge
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im not home otherwise i would ss and show u

cobalt crystal
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lol wtf.. thanks xD

ruby temple
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For people who pvp and want to raid/do mythic plus how are you prioritizing sparks? Think it's still best to go for pvp stuff initially as they're more impactful or what?

wanton sun
ruby temple
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Rip. I think you're probably right. Guess I'll focus war for pvp and hunter for pvp to start

copper hare
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holy fuck caster gonna be so obnoxious this season

novel kite
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whats the new gear max llv

worthy fern
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This season is going to be good training

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For not getting faked

elfin surge
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no

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tomorrow.

copper hare
elfin surge
green wyvern
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real

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dekel > all retail warriors

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cuz wotlk > retail

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simple as

elfin surge
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mmk

stark reef
magic wing
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Why waste sparks to get trained by ppl at mmrs they got no business being at lol

magic wing
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Im bad. I pvp for elite sets only to flex on pve players lol. Too hard on season start

mint pulsar
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how strong i sthunder clap? is it used to just as a filler to get further into the tree?

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thunderous no skullsplitter build

elfin surge
inner elbow
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mud why are you NA

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you stream when i sleep critcake

elfin surge
inner elbow
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not as good sadgers

elfin surge
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when is eu friendly time

inner elbow
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change ur stream schedule for us eu gaymers

mint pulsar
elfin surge
elfin surge
mint pulsar
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ok back to initial question then, thunder? cuz i assume its in the sks build as well

worthy fern
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Thunder is good into cleaves

elfin surge
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i really only liked thunder into fist cleaves

mint pulsar
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slam seems really scetch, how the fck do you fit that? 😄

scarlet barn
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@spiral elbowgoFury#5197

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👀

stark reef
near delta
elfin surge
near delta
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Me or the button? Either is fair lmao

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I made it work but I have to put rend somewhere hella awk when I do

wary heart
magic wing
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Pet classes are so obnoxious

near delta
copper hare
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I just don't understand the thought process of frost mage design in DF

magic wing
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Should remove all those shit pets and keep it to 1-2 like classic

copper hare
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I don't mind casts oneshotting with cooldowns but not having to cast once is kinda cringe

near delta
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The best part is bm has the worst single target damage in the game rn so they're definitely getting buffed soon

magic wing
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And is it just me or is this patch terrible technically

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So much more lag

sharp meteor
sharp meteor
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Feels kind of scuffed but

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Sets showing up in SL powers kind of wild

near delta
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That is weird af

sharp meteor
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Shift clicking stuff into chat lets you look at bonuses.

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It also lets you check stats

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to see if you wanna throw bracers or boot into the converter

near delta
wary heart
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if so this thing will rip

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also 4p kinda sucks but if you get a shocki-b-wave and SKS -> MS you can TKO a melee cleave

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with sweeping up

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what is this mog lmfao

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looks like an angry pepe

woeful solstice
final flint
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How much ilvl pvp gear will be for pve content? Couldnt find this info...

craggy geyser
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Wuhhhh?

near delta
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My assumption would be it doesn't stack or anything

obsidian loom
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Seems like it should because it procs off deep wounds

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All sks does is accelerate ticks

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I guess the question is whether deep wounds crits off it's own modifier

wanton sun
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Set bonuses are nerfed by 50% in pvp anyway

stark reef
sharp meteor
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Ye.

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That's what makes reck proc nice as you have it every smash

stark reef
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Oh sweet, I thought you were just looking to crit the hit of sks itself

green wyvern
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well

stark reef
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But makes sense since sks hits like a wet noodle

green wyvern
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every tick calculates its own crit chance afaik

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so the probability of critting all ticks is super low

stark reef
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Ofc, you’d only need to crit one to proc the set though

green wyvern
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I wouldnt worry about tier set at all

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its nerfed by 50% in pvp

stark reef
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So if sks rolls all ticks at once you’d have a high chance getting set bonus

mild thunder
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and then you'd get a WHOPPING... 15% dmg increase on your next ms weird

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that's barely more than 1 exploiter stack keks

stark reef
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Yeah, bonus is shit

obsidian loom
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im getting destroyed in wpvp

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tf is going on

torpid roost
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Stacked out with executioners precision, op stacks and sharpen and the additional tag along damage

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Could end up hitting pretty fucking hard

mild thunder
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sure... sacrifice actually meaningful dps to try and get a gimmick oneshot after crit was nerfed

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too expensive to get EP with the sks build anyway

obsidian loom
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blackout kick crit is still insane

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same with everything enh related

mild thunder
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BoK has a lot of crit modifiers

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iirc

obsidian loom
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if anything crit should have more of a nerf imo

mild thunder
stark reef
# obsidian loom im getting destroyed in wpvp

I think the ilvl doesn't activate in warmode - felt super "undergeared" myself and it shows as 382 or something like that when I hover over it.

It also no longer mentions war-mode in the green text

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It's still playable because people are grassfed animals but I get hit like a truck - nothing like arena

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And certainly nothing like being bis pvp geared vs. people in pve gear - more like the other way around

obsidian loom
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maybe idk

stark reef
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I mean does it show your ilvl higher or mention warmode on the items?

obsidian loom
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idk i left

torpid roost
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I just want Mortal Strike to live up to it's name

mild thunder
# torpid roost NO FUN ALLOWED

if you want a "fun" build, play whatever you want... arms is busted and can literally play an m+ build to decent rating
i was talking about what's optimal

torpid roost
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3 of 5 tier pieces have vers

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if you get those to conq tier ilvl they aren't exactly a huge sacrifice

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sks compresses the 4p proc to "almost certain to happen like, now"

mild thunder
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tier just isnt really worth talking about, it's such an incredibly minor increase this season that running it/not running it doesnt matter

torpid roost
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it's not so much that it'll be a huge increase overall, I don't think half a tier bonus will come even close to that

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it's that all of it will occur inside of a burst window

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is it paradigm shifting?

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is it a huge impact?

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nah

mild thunder
torpid roost
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I stand by that

mild thunder
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ms in general will be less of our dmg than it was this season because we're also losing current tier set

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so leaning on those big ms oneshots is less reliable

torpid roost
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I don't think it'll be a oneshot

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hence why you'd be a followup from cs_>sks->ms

mild thunder
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MS crits do 20% less dmg than they were doing last season, not including the actual crit nerf

torpid roost
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so low item level, +15% dmg +15k damage (this will be higher at pvp conq tier) on top of that

mild thunder
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the tier set will just be... there. like i said, it won't be a big deal to run it or not run it

torpid roost
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ahem

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7.5k

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at lower ilvl

mild thunder
torpid roost
torpid roost
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10x3 is 30, cut in half, 15

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5-some k x3 is 15, cut in half, 7.5

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that'll be way bigger because ilvl will be higher

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though healthpools will be much larger too

mild thunder
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"way bigger" probably means like 10k or something, but yea

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but yea all this is the equivalent of barely more than an exploiter stack

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and still less than an overpower

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it's just incredibly, impressively, amazingly mediocre

torpid roost
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The thing about an overpower is it requires a gcd, but yes, it will likely be below that, it'll be amped by cs and dw% by that'll be negated by vers/armor

stark reef
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What even is today - typing since I woke up, had time to eat a salami, a protein shake and some almonds and already through a redbull and large coffee

visual river
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seems like sticking with 2set only and rest pvp gear s2?

fossil mortar
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Seems like we won't rush t4 as arms at least. Fury though, kind of want it.

Come back late w1 or w2, and things will have been tested more out and a feel of things more solidified.

mild thunder
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no one will be testing tier sets in w1-2

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that's midseason stuff

fossil mortar
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Omnitoken! Omnitoken! CatjamR

mild thunder
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true, i forgot about that

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so if you get super lucky and get tier from vault and you get your token

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but id guess if you're gonna run arms tier you either want full 4pc or dont bother... 2pc on its own is a 1.5-2% dps increase keksquad

fossil mortar
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Feels s1 Fury man

mild thunder
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its good tbh, i dont want these tier sets in pvp

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and losing stat agency because you need 4 tier pieces and 2 crafted pieces last season was annoying

near delta
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Hopefully I get lucky again. I got tier in vault every week till I had 4 pc last season.

mild thunder
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im owed a weapon from vault

near delta
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But I was maining ww so ofc I did

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Probably don't get any tier now that I'm maining warr again

mild thunder
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i got one in the first 1-2 weeks every season of SL

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none last season

simple rock
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was anyone else part of no 4set till week 6 gang?

mild thunder
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i also got weapon from vault on my first week of every alt keks

near delta
stark reef
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I haven’t had an alt in probably 10 years

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Doing all the maintenance stuff twice, can’t be asked tbh

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Once is ok with a coffee and a podcast

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Best retail drop was Jaithys on first kill of mythic KT during prog

visual river
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should we still be trying to cap vault this week or dont bother?

near delta
visual river
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great thanks

mild thunder
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sockets resedt

near delta
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And only on tier piece since we're replacing everything else

vapid tartan
mild thunder
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joe who?

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i only listen to Dekel

stark reef
vapid tartan
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Yeah seems nice with the stat changes atleast, you’ll be able to have a ton of vers

mild thunder
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@lean burrow bring it back 😈

stark reef
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That guy was the uncle of one of my old guildies

near delta
mild thunder
# near delta Fernandes I assume

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"Wooosh" means you didn't get the joke, as in the sound made when the joke "woooshes" over your head. I bet you're too stupid to get it, IDIOT!! 😤😤😂

His joke was so thoughtfully crafted and took him a total of like 3 minutes, you SHOULD be laughing. 🤬 What's that? His joke is bad? I think that's just because you failed. He outsmarted you, nitwit.🤭

In conclusion, I am posting this to the community known as "R/Wooooosh" to claim my internet points in your embarrassment 😏. Imbecile. The Germans refer to this action as "Schadenfreude," which means "harm-joy" 😬😲. WOW! 🤪 Another reference I had to explain to you. 🤦‍♂️🤭 I am going to cease this conversation for I do not converse with simple minded persons.😏😂

near delta
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I need to go find a doctor

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About to die of cringe

stark reef
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Reddit users

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🤣

vapid tartan
finite fox
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Fury looks cracked damage wise you think it could outshine arms ?

stark reef
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Unlikely unless there are significant changes to Slaughterhouse - fury loses to much tempo on swaps which are essential the higher up you go.

With that being said, it’s everything but unplayable and I could see it getting even closer this season as they did some buffs to the fury MS

But all TBD

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I plan on gearing fury with a rating goal of 3k solo unless I quit cold-turkey for D4

tawny brook
# mild thunder WOW kid you just got r/WOOOOOOSHED!!!! 😂😂👀 "Wooosh" means you didn't get the...

So you're going by "Galachad" now nerd? Haha whats up douche bag, it's Tanner from Highschool. Remember me? Me and the guys used to give you a hard time in school. Sorry you were just an easy target lol. I can see not much has changed. Remember Sarah the girl you had a crush on? Yeah we're married now. I make over 200k a year and drive a mustang GT. I guess some things never change huh loser? Nice catching up lol. Pathetic..

ruby temple
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will tomorrows great vault still reward season 1 pvp gear?

unique fox
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Yes

obsidian loom
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4p seems like a big DPS gain even with a 50% nerf

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Based on sims

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But we won't really know until season starts

near delta
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I think people over estimate secondary stats tbh especially on arms where basically everything is good

obsidian loom
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I'll wait until st. mud figures it out by wasting tons of conq

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Me, the genius, just copies the build and doesn't think

near delta
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That's the way

unique fox
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no measly amount of secondary stat is going to be worth more than 15% damage on your ms

obsidian loom
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Im sus rmp is going to make a comeback

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Rogues are playing a different game

near delta
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We're looking at a full on hogwarts meta

obsidian loom
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Yeah sp looks spicy

mild thunder
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  • the 2pc is essentially nerfed by another 50%
obsidian loom
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I'm going off of blood mallet as a proxy

wise atlas
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Does the conquest reset tomorrow?

fast meteor
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sup guys silly question but what is you guys opinion on the talent menace in pvp?

sharp meteor
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It's good into demo.

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The bonus duration got fixed.

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Knock is also funny on maps like blades edge.

stark reef
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Also really like it into unhinged bladestorm on kill-target

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gives you just enough space to make sure MS just hits them

mild thunder
# obsidian loom I'm going off of blood mallet as a proxy

bloodmallet doesnt project it as a very significant increase...
arms tier is worth ~9% in ST
that's nerfed to ~4.5% in pvp
the 2pc is nerfed by another ~50% in pvp due to the crit changes, and the 2pc is the stronger part of the tier set (2pc = ~6% | 4pc = ~3%)
all-in-all our tier comes down to a roughly 3% dps increase in pvp

as other people have pointed out, it may be more valuable with a sks build, but it's just not very significant either way. you could not run it and barely notice a difference, which is good because tier sets have fucked up the last 3 seasons of pvp

obsidian loom
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Yeah I'm not crazy for tier mandatory meta, I do think it synergizes well on paper with sks

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Critcake has a spreadsheet too, fury shows a pretty big jump in pve which I might do for m+

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I skipped storming affix bc lol

stark reef
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Yeah, other high M+ players also have their eyes on fury - still don't think it will be strictly better - but could see it be closer for sure

mild thunder
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fury tier set is pretty good for pve (15% in MT iirc)

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but again, it's crit-based, which is bad for pvp

obsidian loom
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Fury pve is brain off

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Just vibing

stark reef
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Obviously doesn't translate directly to PvP but there comes a point where the dps is high enough to make up for lack of MS, especially if you run with other classes that have strong MS

obsidian loom
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Mud did some fury on stream today, it lacks kill closure

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Damage is fine

mild thunder
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zzzz, when will the "is fury good" conversation end

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shitty ms
no bladestorm
squishy
easy to shutdown
low utility

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good dmg doesnt make up for all that

obsidian loom
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Idc either way fam

mild thunder
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yeye, was mostly talking to roxi

obsidian loom
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I like arms as is

stark reef
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Yeah, same, will play both - just like fury more

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Still performed better on arms last season

obsidian loom
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Fury pve is catjam though

mild thunder
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fury is warriorbrain

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impressively boring

stark reef
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100%, with some nice music and a redbull fury PvE hits the spot

mild thunder
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warr in general is boring af in pve

stark reef
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High keys on war are very enjoyable

obsidian loom
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I leveled a hunter to try survival but bicmex guide is too big brain

mild thunder
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arms was fun when it had a bit more utility in SL

stark reef
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Haha, fk that - I played ADC to D2 in league, that gave me life-long brain damage - not doing that shit again

mild thunder
obsidian loom
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I tried it in SL and loved it but not enough to gitgud

mild thunder
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the skill-ceiling is extremely high

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SL sv was pretty easy to just pve on tho

stark reef
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You're literally dying to the wind, have to hit perfect spacing and farm, dependent on set-ups - hunter in wow seems to play that way, I cannot be asked

mild thunder
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30k bomb ticks every 0.5s critcake

stark reef
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  • the farm
obsidian loom
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Is raiding any good I haven't done a serious raid in 2 xpacs now

stark reef
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Except BM - that looks actually brain-dead

obsidian loom
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Lmao bm

mild thunder
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raiding is eh, but m+ is always okayge

obsidian loom
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Tanks and BM shouldn't be allowed to queue solo shuffle

stark reef
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Playing Signet Fury in M+ was proper gaming tbh

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Those big pulls in the ardenweald part of that grave dungeon - good times

fast meteor
stark reef
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I approve of this

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And everyone should be locked to the clown transmog

fresh valve
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m+ is repetitive

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overrated imo

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good for gearing tho

stark reef
ruby temple
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How far behind is the non skull splitter build really for damage. Did some shuffle tonight without it and in was still the uncontested top damage so wonder how much more sks would make it

ruby temple
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Really damn. Felt like I was pumping as is I'll switch tonight. Ty

thick reef
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It's like how Arms vs Fury isn't a question either

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Like technically you can play Fury, but by that logic you can also suckstart a shotgun

ruby temple
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If fury warriors could read they'd be very upset right now.

stark reef
mild thunder
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you're not trolling by using another build, but spear is defs low value now

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general rule is that if you're asking these questions you're probably at a point where you can run any build and stomp people if you play properly okayge

mint pulsar
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SKS and shockwave really makes it more interesting to play warrior. Less braindead than before

mild thunder
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shockwave is busted, idk why on god they buffed it

tulip spire
mild thunder
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it was buffed to 3s

lean burrow
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binding more buttons for shockwave:

unique fox
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3s aoe stun is actually insane, even on dr its good to stop casts and you can also bolt healer/shockwave dps every 40s

lean burrow
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i'll just unbind taunt

mint pulsar
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Sscchh! They have moles everywhere waving nerfhammers. Secrets best kept in the dark!

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Shockwave is bad am i right?

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Needs buff tbh

stark reef
unique fox
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If you dont have an mmo mouse you need to get one

fresh valve
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so is upgrading wpvp still gonna cost trophies on reset?

stark reef
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That’s how I’m putting stuff on ctrl + 11 and actually press it 😂

sharp meteor
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where you earn some trophies each week and can use them to upgrade token gear

mint pulsar
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i am a bit lost on how to gear early season, anyone with tips? geting full honor gear is i guess prio 1 (which is already banked with honor saved), then will people go for off-pieces trophy-gear or save 2 weeks for wep (depending on vault etc - but lets expect vault is shit as always) - what crafted item and what embellished?

green wyvern
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yo anyone here knows

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have they added catchup for tier set in s2?

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like what we had in SL

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being able to craft 4 pieces in 1 week

muted surge
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Yes

#

They just made tier irrelevant for arms

teal hedge
fossil mortar
#

A normal mouse got what 10+ binds, scroll, clicks (l,r,m) and two page buttons. (Then X by modifier keys)

teal hedge
#

Only mouse muttons I use is m1 and m2 for my camera as well as the scrollwheel for targetting and zooming.

undone pumice
#

he does not left click

#

or his mouse is made of sheep meat

mint pulsar
#

anyone know what rate, if any, conquest converts to honor tomorrow?

elfin surge
mint pulsar
#

late alt.. have some conquest from pvp as well as stacking honor

mint pulsar
#

copper? not honor?

#

conquest = gold and not honor then?

#

till cap ofc

elfin surge
#

i dont think we really know

mint pulsar
#

kk

elfin surge
#

blizz hasnt said anything

mint pulsar
#

standard :d

elfin surge
mint pulsar
#

god forbid if people knew how to best spend their time and currency

#

before new content

elfin surge
#

I heard conquest -> Honor -> 25silver?

fossil mortar
#

Currency is usually turned to silver, so ya gonna be rich ExcitedBlushette

vapid tartan
#

So what does shockwave not have much value into?

elfin surge
mint pulsar
vapid tartan
#

Fr?

vapid tartan
#

Shit gotta find something to undbind

elfin surge
#

shockwave is like avatar. its perma specced into

vapid tartan
#

we take tclap with shockwave?

#

or situational

elfin surge
#

good vs cleaves

vapid tartan
#

ah so if kill target is a wizard probably not take it unless other dps is melee?

elfin surge
#

we will have to see once ssn starts

#

so far this build has worked vs almost everything in 2s

indigo barn
#

Pain and gain dead?

elfin surge
#

we make sacrifices

indigo barn
#

I mean you can swap conc blows for pain and gain

#

but healing too meh?

muted surge
#

Pain and gain is a healer problem

#

We only care about dps :>

bright stream
#

goddamn mage feels so silly in bgs

river walrus
#

How is fury warrior in pvp this season? Are we still playing annihilation build or did it change?
Is crushing blow with ravager and onslaught any good or nah?

elfin surge
#

anni build still seems the best tho

river walrus
# elfin surge anni build still seems the best tho

I knowwww arms is better but for some reason I am just better playing fury. Maybe because it's easier and has less buttons to press compared to arms. Last season I hit 1.8k on my fury for the elite but I could not get past 1650 on arms to save my life

elfin surge
#

arms is for the men

river walrus
#

Lol

#

How do you do with the button bloat? I don't have enough keybinds for skullsplitter and shockwave

elfin surge
#

pretty insane

tulip spire
#

I just found the macro that makes Charge, Intervene, and hamstring on the same button, so that was nice

muted surge
#

Arms had many buttons?

river walrus
#

Yeah, the bleed build add an extra freaking 4-6 buttons lol

tulip spire
# solid relic Can you link that?

#showtooltip Charge
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast [@mouseover, exists, help, nodead] Intervene
/cast [exists, nodead, harm] Charge
/cast Hamstring

solid relic
#

Cheers

muted surge
#

You get sks

#

That’s it

craggy geyser
#

I’ve never seen a class with so many keybinds to be fair. Never playing warrior before I was like holy fuck….

wet scarab
#

next gen class

craggy geyser
#

What other macros are you guys using. Any must have weakauras too?

river walrus
craggy geyser
#

And thunderclap

river walrus
#

Yea

craggy geyser
#

And whatever PvP talents lmao

muted surge
#

You always had rend

river walrus
#

It just got bloated. I was never used to so many buttons on arms warrior

muted surge
#

You always had roar

#

Shockwave is new in this patcchh

river walrus
#

No I didn't. I used to play hinge build for the longest time untill bleed build was strong

craggy geyser
#

Bro there’s like 3 rows of keybind material lol

#

You think we are being dramatic? Lol

brazen rock
#

1-5 qerzxcvftg with shift/ctrl mods

#

mmo mouse if baby hands

#

not hard.

elfin surge
craggy geyser
#

Any good macros about?

#

Must haves?

brazen rock
#

intervene @ party 2/3 is a must.

elfin surge
#

i keep my macros minimal

brazen rock
#

focus kick/bolt

#

thats all i really used.

mild thunder
#

@brazen rock has the alien hand advantage

brazen rock
#

true i can reach my numpad from WASD

craggy geyser
#

Lmfao

brazen rock
#

con is i frequently hit two keys at once and my hand cramps after an hour or two cuz i can't find a mouse big enough

mild thunder
#

He’s going to be the hand model for the live-action shrek movie

brazen rock
elfin surge
#

Galasimp

brazen rock
#

have u seen my hand mud

elfin surge
mild thunder
#

Time to unboost server

elfin surge
mild thunder
wet scarab
#

the healers in our guild have such small hands they apparently use ctrl as a modifier with their palm

brazen rock
wet scarab
#

I don't know how the fuck they manage that

mild thunder
#

I’d ask the mods again but I’m pre sure if I ping them again I’m gonna get banned

wet scarab
craggy geyser
#

Bahahahahaaha

mild thunder
#

It’s the spoon-shaped fingers that are the best part

#

He scoops his cereal with his fingers

wet scarab
#

lmao

brazen rock
#

women love them i swear

elfin surge
brazen rock
#

ong frfr

elfin surge
wet scarab
#

they have the built in small curve in sex toys

brazen rock
wet scarab
#

all set

craggy geyser
radiant nest
#

My bet is no honor reset

craggy geyser
#

It won’t reset

mild thunder
#

My bet is no bitches

radiant nest
#

I mean you can already get season 2 boa honor tokens

#

From the chest

#

So it would be weird if they reset honor

torpid roost
#

I have small hands... for my size, which is huge, so

teal hedge
#

I got big hands

#

Big fimmnger s

torpid roost
#

I'm just 6'7 and nearly 300 lean, so, "small hands" are still pretty goddamned big compared to normal people

#

however

teal hedge
#

Bet you got hands like trump

torpid roost
#

proportionately, they're fairly small

teal hedge
#

Little guy hands

torpid roost
#

trump has above average sized hands, lmfao, marco rubio shit

teal hedge
#

Nuh uh

#

Look at his little hands

torpid roost
#

yeah yeah, your medio told you so, etc

teal hedge
#

Look

#

Little baby fingers

#

It's okay though

#

No need to feel shame over little-guy hands

torpid roost
#

he's 6'2 and 150 years old, to have small hands he'd have to have smaller hands than a 5'9 man (average in the US)

#

notably, for non-hispanic whites, actual average is lower

teal hedge
#

He uses non-average size utensils in order to compensate for his little hands

torpid roost
#

you have invented a strange fiction in your head sir

teal hedge
#

You reject the very reality we live in

#

Take the handpill

torpid roost
#

okay socialism teenager keks

#

when are the realms coming back, I miss when warrior chat was insufferable in the other ways

teal hedge
#

Bet he has to have shift + x and ctrl + x etc... binds because he cannot reach up to the number 5

torpid roost
#

I have up to shift 6, I can reach 7 but it's... weird

#

like have to glide on the shift button and in the heat of battle that ain't good

teal hedge
#

Small Kahuna

torpid roost
#

well, technically I can "reach" backspace but that's.... uncomfortable and imprecise

#

I lied, I can reach the +

#

new keyboard, sue me

radiant nest
#

You know what they say about small hands

teal hedge
#

Small fingers and nails

radiant nest
#

Exactly

wary heart
torpid roost
#

big arms/small hands = harder punch

#

so long as you don't have bitch-made wrists

#

gives their face a crumple zone if you do

#

It's called Zugzugitis, Imperius

teal hedge
#

In what world do you go out swinging

wary heart
#

ah

teal hedge
#

I have no enemies

torpid roost
#

bitch

wary heart
#

that's because you're soijack

torpid roost
#

kek

#

if you've made no enemies you've done nothing in life

wary heart
#

EU food made you docile

torpid roost
#

every good (and evil, and neutral) action of significance will piss someone off

teal hedge
#

I eat mostly prawns and salvaged goods

torpid roost
#

prawn and garbage?

#

no but seriously what do you mean salvaged goods

wary heart
#

tf is a salvaged good

teal hedge
#

You know how people break cigarrettes?

torpid roost
#

... actually no

teal hedge
#

If they don't break them at the filter, they're still smokeable

wary heart
#

you eat lucky strikes?

torpid roost
#

are you a hobo?

teal hedge
#

Nicotine sharpens the mind

wary heart
#

europeans are odd folk

torpid roost
#

Nicotine isn't the actual problem

#

it's the, uh, y'know, smoke

#

I've used (abused) nic gum for it's nootropic effects

teal hedge
#

LA-air is far more toxic than a smoke

torpid roost
#

LA is a europhilic shithole

wary heart
#

europeans have a distorted view of the world since they outsourced national security to the US and use their defense budget for welfare spending and regulation

teal hedge
#

You wish you could live lavish in the hood wit no AC

torpid roost
#

If california weren't shackled by LA, SF, and Berkeley, it would resume it's place as the best state in the union

#

as it stands, it's hell

teal hedge
#

Fresno

wary heart
#

lol why would you live in CA

torpid roost
#

Fresno's a nice place

#

I wouldn't

#

I worked there for years, I refused to move there

#

I literally commuted by plane and it worked out fucking cheaper than paying their bullshit

wary heart
#

fungus needs to get in touch with his pagan roots and visit the US to shoot fully auto rifles at the range

green anchor
#

at the range huh

#

schools seem more popular these days

wary heart
#

nice meme

teal hedge
#

I am a perfect recreation of Ask and Embla

#

The gods made me in their image

#

Tell me, have you ever had a shrimp sandwich?

wary heart
#

shrimp po boy

teal hedge
#

I devour any crustacean within reach

teal hedge
#

What

#

Foul thing

torpid roost
#

people speak of school shootings like they're a daily occurrence

teal hedge
#

Real deal

wary heart
#

its not even fried wtf

torpid roost
#

regardless of the insanity in the US, violent crime has been descending

teal hedge
#

Do you need batter in your food?

torpid roost
#

for like 60 years

teal hedge
#

It tastes of the sea, not of the fryer

torpid roost
#

and, I would 100% eat the fried po'boy, I would 100% eat whatever fung just linked

wary heart
#

disregard EU opinions on US gunlaws

teal hedge
#

Swedish gunlaws work

#

Hunters and marksmen can get em', pretty easy

torpid roost
#

enjoy your grenades and mandatory boyfriend

teal hedge
#

You just have to prove you're not mentally ill

torpid roost
#

they aren't for hunting

#

they're for killing tyrants

wary heart
#

^

torpid roost
#

hunting and marksmanship are side benefits

teal hedge
#

We have TM 31-210 for that

#

But I think it has a lot to do with culture

torpid roost
#

You're welcome

teal hedge
#

Let's be real: a bunch of yankees should not operate firearms

#

Whether it's poor trigger-discipline or not following safety

torpid roost
#

And what has drawn you to this conclusion

teal hedge
#

These things are not toys

#

I get the hobby and all

torpid roost
#

okay, that's a fair assessment. Mandatory gun safety classes in schools, I'm for it

teal hedge
#

Yep, seen a bunch of people putting one in their leg, sub-optimal play to say the least.

wary heart
#

if the russians werent drunken donkeys and walked into stockholm tomorrow you wouldnt do anything and beg the USN atlantic fleet for help

teal hedge
#

Keep talking all that talk

torpid roost
#

yeah that attitude changes when shit gets real

#

mf you do the talking

teal hedge
#

We have before, and will fend off Russia

wary heart
torpid roost
#

You wouldn't stand a chance, even with russia basically having blown it's own legs off at this point

teal hedge
#

Besides, why do these dick-measuring competitions with defense?

torpid roost
#

because what you leave vulnerable will be taken

#

I know in your sheltered welfare state that isn't true on the micro level

wary heart
#

im perturbed that my taxes subsidize eu defense budgets

torpid roost
#

but it is true

teal hedge
#

That's the realistic POV within international relations

#

I prefer constructivism or liberalism.

torpid roost
#

liberalism is dead

#

it's all leftist horseshit now

teal hedge
torpid roost
#

(no, they aren't the same thing)

teal hedge
#

You're not getting me

#

I am not talking politics

wary heart
#

2% tax? i wish

teal hedge
#

I am talking international relations.

torpid roost
#

why should my 2% subsidize people who shit on me

#

be in .2%, be it 20%

teal hedge
#

The people in Sweden shit on you?

torpid roost
#

"fuck american values", well, fuck you then

#

defend yourself, asshole

teal hedge
#

This actually happened!

torpid roost
#

in the 1400's? Yes, you were quite strong.

teal hedge
#

Our prime minister, rest his soul, Olof Palme, compared the Christmas-bombings of Hanoi to the holocaust and the US withdrew their ambassador.

torpid roost
#

yeah I'm not for the empire building "advisorships" or any bullshit

teal hedge
#

Regardless of your stance on the war the bombings were aimed at civillians, and he made a point out of it.

torpid roost
#

I'm actually with you on that

#

proxy wars too

#

that's all a scam

teal hedge
#

Yeah, in Iraq etc.

#

Just a ploy from the people in power.

torpid roost
#

meant to drain the american taxpayer and enrich the military industrial complex

#

that's something the left and the populist right used to agree on

teal hedge
#

Wars are a filthy thing and should be seen as just that.

torpid roost
#

the left now sucks their dick, though, and I FULLY do not understand why

teal hedge
#

It's far too glorified.

torpid roost
#

"War" is not a filthy thing

teal hedge
#

It's one of our greatest crimes.

torpid roost
#

to construct a false reason for war? Deepest, most disgusting crime

wary heart
#

the point i was making is that your current societal equilibrium is a direct result of subsidized defense from the US, which if removed, would require either replacement or vassalization from another

torpid roost
#

and further to his point

#

you're gonna miss pax americana

#

I promise you that

teal hedge
#

How can you come to these conclusions when Sweden has opposed the US for almost a century?

wary heart
#

nation-states that have tried unfunded pacifism have invariably been invaded and assimilated

teal hedge
#

I would understand if you made this point regarding Norway or Denmark.

wary heart
#

nato is formality

torpid roost
#

can you clarify something for me? This is an actual question.

#

How do grenade attacks happen?

#

I know, it's overblown

teal hedge
#

Yeah, severely.

torpid roost
#

like our mass shootings

#

but

#

like, how does a terry get his hands on a grenade?

teal hedge
#

It's been pushed by the reactonary / nazi right for about 5 years now.

torpid roost
#

well there were a rash of them a few years ago

#

but if you can't have handguns

#

how do you get a fucking grenade

teal hedge
#

Well, generally speaking, due to the lax border-control policies our moderate-right party decided to invoke, the illegal arms trade has taken roots.

brazen rock
#

when skyhold talks about politics

teal hedge
#

Especially within our southernmost and third largest city, Malmö.

wary heart
#

then ill complain about bm hunters, enh shaman, and locks

brazen rock
#

get ur sets in before season

wary heart
#

at work pretending to do so

#

also my stronglifts say i shouldnt do back to back days

teal hedge
#

Then again, bombings do not occur, it is not something that actually happens but rather something which is politicised for the interests of our rightists.

brazen rock
#

fuck it go do cardio + rep work

teal hedge
#

Pull day tomorrow

wary heart
teal hedge
#

Yeehaw

brazen rock
#

you already know your gonna slack a day or two anyways

torpid roost
#

BM hunters and demo locks should die

wary heart
#

bro stop

#

dont call out my leg day

brazen rock
#

i got 3x10 80% squats today so dont bitch

torpid roost
teal hedge
#

Leg day is da worst

torpid roost
#

LEG DAY IS THE BEST

wary heart
#

heavy lifts are cardio

teal hedge
#

False, pull-day has deadlifts and curls.

#

And push day has the bench

torpid roost
#

I enjoy deathlifts

wary heart
#

deadlifts are fine, bench is excellent

#

squats...

torpid roost
#

DEADlifting tinytrip's parents

#

deleted that - was more offensive than intended keks

wary heart
torpid roost
teal hedge
#

I mean it's fucked up you guys aren't doing anything about it

#

We're increasing police-budgets etc

torpid roost
#

and what would you do about it, exactly?

teal hedge
#

Gun control.

torpid roost
#

fuck you

#

that's where the conversation ends

teal hedge
#

You people can obviously not handle them.

torpid roost
#

because 1-2 of 300 million people a year flip out and commit an atrocity

#

everyone loses rights and weakens us?

#

nah

#

and, is wikipedia a right wing fascist group now?

#

they said there were 40 hand grenade attacks in sweden in 2016 alone, lol, "they don't happen"

teal hedge
#

You cannot shoot kids if there is not a firearm in your hands.

#

You had 19 school shootings 2016.

torpid roost
teal hedge
#

We're not even halfway through 2023 and you've had 26 shootings this year.

torpid roost
#

and we had zero before 1999

#

it's.... weird, isn't it?

#

let's say (they didn't, not even close) they all killed 100 people

#

2600 people

teal hedge
#

You actually had a considerable amount of school shootings during 1970-1980.

#

As well as during the 90s leading up to 1999.

torpid roost
#

one guy being shot isn't what most of us consider a "school shooting", targeted individuals, etc

teal hedge
#

Just shake a kid being murdered off.

torpid roost
#

angry kid coming to do indiscriminate carnage type killing

teal hedge
#

How about police-casualties?

torpid roost
#

murders are murders, school shootings are school shootings, disingenuous socialist scum

#

okay, let's just shotgun topics

teal hedge
#

Sweden has had 1 casualty within 14 years, and it was manslaughter.

torpid roost
#

when you land on something you'd actually like to talk about

#

page me

#

I'll be back

teal hedge
#

Well, you don't seem to mind kids dying so I feel it's hopeless trying to convince you otherwise.

#

But hey, you get to keep your precious shooting-toys

torpid roost
#

the preservation of freedom will cost lives, and cost being responsible for something

teal hedge
#

Is it really that bad for the state to even do a background check on an individual wishing to purchase a fire-arm?

torpid roost
#

not near as many lives as you statistically ignorant invalids seem to think

#

but, it will cost lives

teal hedge
#

Jesus Christ.

torpid roost
#

corrupt government cannot be trusted with the power to disarm

#

gun control was originally aimed at freed slaves, to disarm them

#

then at the black panthers

#

both of which, as citizens, should have the right to keep and bear arms

teal hedge
#

Well, kids being massacred is just a small price to pay, amirite?

torpid roost
#

the government was scared of these people. As they should have been.

#

kids being massacred

#

using my 100 people per episode wild overestimate

#

that's still an insignificant chance

#

you're more likely to die of a tire coming off a vehicle

teal hedge
#

So you know how 9/11 is considered a national tragedy?

torpid roost
#

you're more likely to be struck by lightning

#

you're more likely to be crushed to death by a vending machine that you shook

#

(no, seriously)

#

and you're, in all 3 cases

#

more likely to die that way BY ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE

#

so yes, I won't slit my throat because my finger hurts

teal hedge
#

Your point being? You stand idly by whilst kids get murdered just because you want 200-something year old amendment to stick.

torpid roost
#

you're arguing emotionally, not rationally

teal hedge
#

Am I a machine?

#

Why must everything have to be logical, or numbers?

torpid roost
#

you'd literally save more kids lives improving the school lunch program

#

because to be governed by your emotions is to be a slave to them

#

So, I presume you're full stop against abortion in any context then, yes?

teal hedge
#

I'm pro-choice 100%.

torpid roost
#

Which kills about 30% of black children

#

like, that exist

#

*in the US

teal hedge
#

Abortion does not kill.

torpid roost
#

lol

#

so, if a pregnant woman does meth, we shouldn't charge her with anything, right?

brazen rock
#

yall should chill unironically

slim glacier
#

(Cough cough) Fury vs Arms - Discuss!

torpid roost
#

don't worry, varughh, season's coming

ruby temple
#

You guys seem to like talking to each other but maybe this stuff is better for DMs?

teal hedge
#

Real

torpid roost
#

well he had to jam it in warrior chat

#

I felt it bore responding to

teal hedge
#

Actually, that would be the guy saying that Sweden was gonna get invaded outta nowhere

torpid roost
#

shill your pussy shit somewhere else

ruby temple
teal hedge
#

How can someone like fury?

#

It's just

stable siren
#

i wonder with the new set if we go fury

torpid roost
#

I play both but I've swung pretty hard towards arms recently

teal hedge
#

Arms but fewer buttons.

torpid roost
#

@stable siren unless something changes in the near future, no

stable siren
#

Exactly! im not made for thinking im made for wacking

teal hedge
#

How do you people live without mortal strike?

ruby temple
torpid roost
#

yeah, slaughterhouse is bullshit

teal hedge
#

Fury is bullshit 😎

stable siren
#

gotcha! ty but honestly it shouldent hold me back 2 much, me just a shite 2k rat ill be fine

teal hedge
#

Makes sense for leveling but otherwise arms remains the more satisfying spec to play.

torpid roost
#

oh no fury is best for leveling/world content

#

it's basically immortal to world damage

ruby temple
#

It's a game play what you have fun with and you'll push

torpid roost
#

or split pressure

stable siren
#

if its bad i wount take it problem solved

#

just kill em with raw girthyness

torpid roost
#

it'

#

it's bad compared to what arms has access to

#

but

#

a healing reduction is a healing reduction is a healing reduction

ruby temple
#

Well correct me if I'm wrong you'd still run it it's just a weaker Ms lol

prime fern
#

Does honor get reset in season 2?

torpid roost
#

we aren't certain yet

#

probably not

ruby temple
torpid roost
#

ew, fucking "fun"

#

I'm here to make my e-penis look bigger

fresh valve
#

fury is so much fun in pve

mint pulsar
fresh valve
#

arms is boring asf

ruby temple
#

I might have missed this in all the notes but did the season 1 4 set get nerfed in pvp more? I figure it's probably going to be better to just swap right over to all the new honor gear and drop 4 set but I haven't seen any numbers

fresh valve
#

fury warriors and havoc dh's xeos

torpid roost
#

god when are realms coming back uppppp

#

fuck

#

specifically had nothing to do today for a reason

ruby temple
#

I'm ready to quit my job at a moments notice of Maximum finally responds to all my letters to let me come join their raid.

torpid roost
#

I used to parse in the top .1% but I like, can't now

#

and I don't know what mistakes I'm making

#

most of my shit is like, 80% parses in mythicc and shit

ruby temple
#

I refuse to run mythics to get logs to show. Why would I waste my time for anything less then the top 5 guilds?

torpid roost
#

I just don't care anymore now though

#

because you gotta waste that time for the top 5 guilds to even look at you, lol

elfin surge
torpid roost
#

yeah, except my story is true, lol

ruby temple
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I loved how he made the spear build video and at that point people were already running the DR bleed build

torpid roost
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still have r1 parses from back then, I'm still dogshit now and parsing behind my gear critcake

elfin surge
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i once out damaged pikaboo in a warrior 2s mirror

fresh valve
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r1 healing parses xeos

torpid roost
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could believe that, he's not the best warrior - just doesn't waste gcds

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Warrior healing parses, yes

ruby temple
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Too busy saying ladies and gentlemen 3 times in a row 😦

torpid roost
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💪

oblique patrol
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Any of the NA boys online yet and can confirm if Honor was reset btw?

brazen rock
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It's not up yet.

torpid roost
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I have a home gym and I've lifted today

stark reef
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Home gym is bis

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One day

vapid tartan
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I need to start working out summer is coming 😦

stark reef
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Home gym and a beautiful view outside of a glass front on the land with no neighbors in sight is my idea of making it

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🙏

vapid tartan
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Goddamn reading this chat in the morning really wakes me up

radiant nest
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my home gym sucks

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i only have 15 lb and 45 lb dumbbells

stark reef
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I put gymnastic rings in the ceiling during covid lockdowns - pull ups and 16/hrs of WoW classic for months on end

radiant nest
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and a leg press machine and a lat pulldown machine

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dont ask my why i have this unhinged combination of equipment

thick reef
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Does ignore pain get included in heals at the end of a match?

vapid tartan
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Got too bored around level 10

stark reef
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“Fortitude” is a choice of words

torpid roost
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still though

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worth

vapid tartan
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Like bro I’m not gonna sit here and press fucking slam and auto attack for 10 hours

torpid roost
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I played a warrior in classic, like, the original, actual "classic"

radiant nest
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the only thing that i think home gyms fall short on is when you want to do random exercises

torpid roost
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not fucking doing that again

radiant nest
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like im not gonna have a lying leg curl machine at home

stark reef
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I ranked to 14 and played with #1 NA Speedrun guild through BWL & AQ40

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Fkn degenerate time

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But good time

vapid tartan
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the classic zones feel really cool tho tbh

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More soul I feel than shit like dragon isles

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Which is still nice

radiant nest
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bruh the zones have fuck all going on in them

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except for og thousand needles

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that was my favorite zone

vapid tartan
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I liked the older cities a lot

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Like stromgarde and ironforge and shit

radiant nest
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yeah no one hangs out in if anymore its sad

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or thunder bluff

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or og undercity

vapid tartan
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Yeah thunder bluff too

stark reef
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Best thing about classic was the pvp

vapid tartan
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It’d be cool to raid or defend thunderbluff

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I’ve only ever done it in org

stark reef
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Not the gameplay but the amount of gameplay interference you can do if you have 60+ turbo-nerds online every hour of every day

hollow swan
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Is this chat political or what, wtf is this history

stark reef
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We took maintanks of other guilds hostage with mindcontrol, camped BRM for days on end, 2 servers collapsed because of that

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Created a mafia to farm bugs in for the AQ gate

vapid tartan
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Damn that new mythic mount looks real nice

muted surge
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Politics and gym, with a bit of wow

stark reef
radiant nest
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if you can break a 1.2k total you automatically get a glad mount in wow

torpid roost
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realms up

sharp meteor
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Realms up, honor didn't reset.

muted surge
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Surprise!

oblique patrol
rancid heath
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what is main stat for fury ? what is for arms ? thanks

torpid roost
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haste mastery for fury probably still

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was haste crit for arms but I'm leaning haste mastery for it as well

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especially while sks

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this is "I feel like" stuff, not backed by objective data

vapid tartan
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So what slot are we thinking of using other crafted in?

azure willow
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is there a reason to wait to craft the pvp boots ?

vapid tartan
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Was thinking head

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not really seem bis

dark sparrow
torpid roost
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inb4 wow is a bug and they delete the servers in an hour

dark sparrow
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Also wtf is DH now, they are soo disgusting again from the games I played today

rancid heath
dark sparrow
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Death from above actually just Nukes you lmao

ruby temple
azure willow
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guys is it a mistake to craft boots right now ?

oblique patrol
# rancid heath why not full haste ?

You wouldnt want to play full haste because its just reducing our globals and iirc we have a softcap at 20% - mastery is just a pure dmg increase for fury, so it makes it quite desirable after we reach that haste breakpoint

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you should have almost 100% uptime on enrage now days, which is why mastery is nice

spare leaf
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So I just returned after a really really long break and I'm looking to get back into PVP ASAP, what's the preferred spec these days for BGs/Arena?

torpid roost