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What if death wish stayed the same but also added some amount off cc reduction then? That way you are an unstoppable juggernaut but can still get pumped just as much as you can pump
fury design is so pepega its unreal
Not saying full immunity to cc but if you're at 5 stacks a 3 second stun just means your ass is dead
And then y'all are saying it bugs so sometimes you don't get a stack but I assume it still takes the health? Nice way to help your healers pad their numbers I guess
It was. I remember playing this with my guildies sometimes and one time on temple map both groups clashed and with berserker buff and full death wish stacks I 1 shot entire group
in like 5 sec I did more dmg than entire group combined
Yep that map was sick
A lot of pvp talents in the game need to be reworked
Got my reaper achiev there or w/e its called
Also leggos worked so had 3 leaps to jump around like a frog lol
Pure ass juice
What do you mean.arent you excited shamans can still global you but now also crawl around untargetable
Can't wait to get knocked in the air and before I land have the meteor and lightning bolts send me to next week
if enh lasts in its current state for more than 2 weeks it'll be a retpocolypse situation when the gear sets drop
Fury is next boys
Bring it
"and why shouldn't we be strong? retibu- er enhancement shaman have been dog shit for years it's totally fair now we get to 2 shot people and never die >:["
enh was fine last season, they're full of shit
@wary heart I just started playing enhance but I feel like there will be a one shot potential with that tier and primordial wave
cba
I just was using what ret paladins were saying during retpocalypse lol
Or maybe not because primordial jsut buffs lb
you'll be deleting people if its not nerfed
with gear
i still cant believe blizzard left paladins the way they were for almost 3 weeks before they fixed execution sentence
I had to scream at so many retards that they don't balance the game around karma
And turbo is gonna be interesting
Except when fury gets broken right?
Not even
Then we look away
My favorite was seeing people say ret was fine because MS hit hard too. My biggest counter to that was at least I have to walk up to a dude and hit that. Ret was swinging TV's from 20 yards for the same danage
Strong, but not strong enough for everyone to automatically disregard all your accomplishments because class
And having no wind up
Like yeah, ms hits harder
With 2xop 2xep cs sharpen avareck and a trinket
That's like fucking 7 gcds to set up though
"but TV costs 3 HP" >:[
Them's the breaks for being a retard 2h class with combo points
Please tell me the swifty at top of ladder is not actually swifty
Id kill for a "mortal throw" ability that lets me slap a mortal strike at a dude form 20 yards away
caster warrior when?
Was thinking the same - no shot he is 
Survival hunter.
I want to project my rage across the arena
Playing against a good one is so obnoxious lil assholes stay just far away from you so you can't touch them and whack ya
Then you get stunned and a hundred mongoose bites right in there
Yeah no shot
Swifty is playing classic HC
On arms lol
lmao
Must have been if he has the name on tich
It's Andrew this OCE guy lol
Imagine he’s just been cooking on retail all this time off-stream
🤣
Plays Nelf, to - would love to see some gameplay to see how he uses meld
Also saw another nelf player high up in 3s - just seems something you have to have a lot of experience for
@elfin surge that smexxin guy - is he legit playing fury in 3s or is the website showing it wrong?
He’s also always top of the ladder in M+
he played arms last season prob playing fury now
smexxin works for blizzard
Looks like the best item to craft with the new spark is to upgrade the pvp boots for the main stat boost when you cc/interrupt?
yes
Hon hon hon I was wondering the same thing
Thanks Mud!
This website tracks it wrong? I know some just save whatever you log out with: https://www.pvpleaderboard.com/leaderboards/filter/results?class=warrior&spec=fury&leaderboard=3v3®ion=us
prob saved whatever you logged out as
I see
i know he played ret war rsham with vanguards and kaska
arms
the guy right below him also played arms tsg with triten and feedgod
considerwhy
I cannot for the life of me find the Set-bonuses.. If Arms Warrior tier set no longer buffs Slam, then where do I find the updated info.
Google has not been helpful to me. nor has wowhead
you can view in game but its fucking weird
Oh? Where
its in the dungeon journal under shadowlands loot for some reason
dont ask me why its there
but it is
uh..
im not home otherwise i would ss and show u
lol wtf.. thanks xD
For people who pvp and want to raid/do mythic plus how are you prioritizing sparks? Think it's still best to go for pvp stuff initially as they're more impactful or what?
Best advice is to probably have a character for pvp and a character for pve initially. You'll want the crafted pvp gear for the stat boost/embellishments but there's also some really good options with sparks for pve that you would be missing out on
Rip. I think you're probably right. Guess I'll focus war for pvp and hunter for pvp to start
holy fuck caster gonna be so obnoxious this season
noob.
whats the new gear max llv
who?
Looking forward to that. My kicks are rough
Ill do pve ones first and wait for the sweats to place at their mmr
Why waste sparks to get trained by ppl at mmrs they got no business being at lol

just win
Im bad. I pvp for elite sets only to flex on pve players lol. Too hard on season start
how strong i sthunder clap? is it used to just as a filler to get further into the tree?
thunderous no skullsplitter build
sks always
not as good 
change ur stream schedule for us eu gaymers
why? is it just that much more superior?
i work during the day 😦
ok back to initial question then, thunder? cuz i assume its in the sks build as well
Thunder is good into cleaves
i really only liked thunder into fist cleaves
slam seems really scetch, how the fck do you fit that? 😄
what are you doing me nothing me just hanging around beetlejuice meme fortunate son usa japan ww2 little boy war world war 2 ccr mbl fat boy atomic bomb history
I cba fitting the button in
cuz bad
Me or the button? Either is fair lmao
I made it work but I have to put rend somewhere hella awk when I do
i cant wait for bm/destro where i cant move and my screen crashes because we hit 2^64 pets and blizzard cant into 128-bit
Pet classes are so obnoxious
Maybe the pets overflow and they have negative pets
I just don't understand the thought process of frost mage design in DF
Should remove all those shit pets and keep it to 1-2 like classic
I don't mind casts oneshotting with cooldowns but not having to cast once is kinda cringe
The best part is bm has the worst single target damage in the game rn so they're definitely getting buffed soon
Just shift click a piece of tier from the sets into chat.
That is weird af
Shift clicking stuff into chat lets you look at bonuses.
It also lets you check stats
to see if you wanna throw bracers or boot into the converter
Oh thats super useful
does that apply to SKS?
if so this thing will rip
also 4p kinda sucks but if you get a shocki-b-wave and SKS -> MS you can TKO a melee cleave
with sweeping up

what is this mog lmfao
looks like an angry pepe
lmao the sks build about to be gigachad even more
How much ilvl pvp gear will be for pve content? Couldnt find this info...
Wuhhhh?
Has anyone tried that on the ptr?
My assumption would be it doesn't stack or anything
Seems like it should because it procs off deep wounds
All sks does is accelerate ticks
I guess the question is whether deep wounds crits off it's own modifier
Set bonuses are nerfed by 50% in pvp anyway
Can sks crit the deep wound ticks?
Oh sweet, I thought you were just looking to crit the hit of sks itself
well
But makes sense since sks hits like a wet noodle
every tick calculates its own crit chance afaik
so the probability of critting all ticks is super low
Ofc, you’d only need to crit one to proc the set though
So if sks rolls all ticks at once you’d have a high chance getting set bonus
and then you'd get a WHOPPING... 15% dmg increase on your next ms 
that's barely more than 1 exploiter stack 
Yeah, bonus is shit
Stacked out with executioners precision, op stacks and sharpen and the additional tag along damage
Could end up hitting pretty fucking hard
sure... sacrifice actually meaningful dps to try and get a gimmick oneshot after crit was nerfed
too expensive to get EP with the sks build anyway
if anything crit should have more of a nerf imo

I think the ilvl doesn't activate in warmode - felt super "undergeared" myself and it shows as 382 or something like that when I hover over it.
It also no longer mentions war-mode in the green text
It's still playable because people are grassfed animals but I get hit like a truck - nothing like arena
And certainly nothing like being bis pvp geared vs. people in pve gear - more like the other way around
maybe idk
I mean does it show your ilvl higher or mention warmode on the items?
idk i left
NO FUN ALLOWED
I just want Mortal Strike to live up to it's name
if you want a "fun" build, play whatever you want... arms is busted and can literally play an m+ build to decent rating
i was talking about what's optimal
3 of 5 tier pieces have vers
if you get those to conq tier ilvl they aren't exactly a huge sacrifice
sks compresses the 4p proc to "almost certain to happen like, now"
only 1 has vers as the major stat, the rest have vers as smaller stat and one has crit
tier just isnt really worth talking about, it's such an incredibly minor increase this season that running it/not running it doesnt matter
it's not so much that it'll be a huge increase overall, I don't think half a tier bonus will come even close to that
it's that all of it will occur inside of a burst window
is it paradigm shifting?
is it a huge impact?
nah
I stand by that
ms in general will be less of our dmg than it was this season because we're also losing current tier set
so leaning on those big ms oneshots is less reliable
MS crits do 20% less dmg than they were doing last season, not including the actual crit nerf
so low item level, +15% dmg +15k damage (this will be higher at pvp conq tier) on top of that
the tier set will just be... there. like i said, it won't be a big deal to run it or not run it
i genuinely dont know what you're talking about here
10x3 is 30, cut in half, 15
5-some k x3 is 15, cut in half, 7.5
that'll be way bigger because ilvl will be higher
though healthpools will be much larger too
"way bigger" probably means like 10k or something, but yea
but yea all this is the equivalent of barely more than an exploiter stack
and still less than an overpower
it's just incredibly, impressively, amazingly mediocre
The thing about an overpower is it requires a gcd, but yes, it will likely be below that, it'll be amped by cs and dw% by that'll be negated by vers/armor
What even is today - typing since I woke up, had time to eat a salami, a protein shake and some almonds and already through a redbull and large coffee

seems like sticking with 2set only and rest pvp gear s2?
Seems like we won't rush t4 as arms at least. Fury though, kind of want it.
Come back late w1 or w2, and things will have been tested more out and a feel of things more solidified.
Omnitoken! Omnitoken! 
true, i forgot about that
so if you get super lucky and get tier from vault and you get your token
but id guess if you're gonna run arms tier you either want full 4pc or dont bother... 2pc on its own is a 1.5-2% dps increase 
Feels s1 Fury man
its good tbh, i dont want these tier sets in pvp
and losing stat agency because you need 4 tier pieces and 2 crafted pieces last season was annoying
Hopefully I get lucky again. I got tier in vault every week till I had 4 pc last season.
im owed a weapon from vault
But I was maining ww so ofc I did
Probably don't get any tier now that I'm maining warr again
was anyone else part of no 4set till week 6 gang?
i also got weapon from vault on my first week of every alt 
Yup. And I had 6 vaults every week from raid and pvp. Was torture
I haven’t had an alt in probably 10 years
Doing all the maintenance stuff twice, can’t be asked tbh
Once is ok with a coffee and a podcast
Best retail drop was Jaithys on first kill of mythic KT during prog
should we still be trying to cap vault this week or dont bother?
Don't bother unless you need a socket
great thanks
sockets resedt
And only on tier piece since we're replacing everything else
Joe said same thing, and that we will run 4p
Extremely unlikely that people would leave any damage on the table - unless the stats are turbo-cooked people will take their 15% even if it’s mid
Yeah seems nice with the stat changes atleast, you’ll be able to have a ton of vers
@lean burrow bring it back 😈
Fernandes I assume
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Mr potatohead Kim Jong un?
Fury looks cracked damage wise you think it could outshine arms ?
Unlikely unless there are significant changes to Slaughterhouse - fury loses to much tempo on swaps which are essential the higher up you go.
With that being said, it’s everything but unplayable and I could see it getting even closer this season as they did some buffs to the fury MS
But all TBD
I plan on gearing fury with a rating goal of 3k solo unless I quit cold-turkey for D4

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will tomorrows great vault still reward season 1 pvp gear?
Yes
4p seems like a big DPS gain even with a 50% nerf
Based on sims
But we won't really know until season starts
I think people over estimate secondary stats tbh especially on arms where basically everything is good
I'll wait until st. mud figures it out by wasting tons of conq
Me, the genius, just copies the build and doesn't think
no measly amount of secondary stat is going to be worth more than 15% damage on your ms
We're looking at a full on hogwarts meta
Yeah sp looks spicy
what sim? it does poorly even w/o the 50% nerf...
- the 2pc is essentially nerfed by another 50%
I'm going off of blood mallet as a proxy
Does the conquest reset tomorrow?
sup guys silly question but what is you guys opinion on the talent menace in pvp?
It's good into demo.
The bonus duration got fixed.
Knock is also funny on maps like blades edge.
Also really like it into unhinged bladestorm on kill-target
gives you just enough space to make sure MS just hits them
bloodmallet doesnt project it as a very significant increase...
arms tier is worth ~9% in ST
that's nerfed to ~4.5% in pvp
the 2pc is nerfed by another ~50% in pvp due to the crit changes, and the 2pc is the stronger part of the tier set (2pc = ~6% | 4pc = ~3%)
all-in-all our tier comes down to a roughly 3% dps increase in pvp
as other people have pointed out, it may be more valuable with a sks build, but it's just not very significant either way. you could not run it and barely notice a difference, which is good because tier sets have fucked up the last 3 seasons of pvp
Yeah I'm not crazy for tier mandatory meta, I do think it synergizes well on paper with sks
Critcake has a spreadsheet too, fury shows a pretty big jump in pve which I might do for m+
I skipped storming affix bc lol
Yeah, other high M+ players also have their eyes on fury - still don't think it will be strictly better - but could see it be closer for sure
fury tier set is pretty good for pve (15% in MT iirc)
but again, it's crit-based, which is bad for pvp
Obviously doesn't translate directly to PvP but there comes a point where the dps is high enough to make up for lack of MS, especially if you run with other classes that have strong MS
zzzz, when will the "is fury good" conversation end
shitty ms
no bladestorm
squishy
easy to shutdown
low utility
good dmg doesnt make up for all that
Idc either way fam
yeye, was mostly talking to roxi
I like arms as is
Yeah, same, will play both - just like fury more
Still performed better on arms last season
Fury pve is catjam though
100%, with some nice music and a redbull fury PvE hits the spot
warr in general is boring af in pve
High keys on war are very enjoyable
I leveled a hunter to try survival but bicmex guide is too big brain
arms was fun when it had a bit more utility in SL
Haha, fk that - I played ADC to D2 in league, that gave me life-long brain damage - not doing that shit again
sv is the endgame of finding a fun spec
I tried it in SL and loved it but not enough to gitgud
You're literally dying to the wind, have to hit perfect spacing and farm, dependent on set-ups - hunter in wow seems to play that way, I cannot be asked
30k bomb ticks every 0.5s 
- the farm
Is raiding any good I haven't done a serious raid in 2 xpacs now
Except BM - that looks actually brain-dead
Lmao bm
raiding is eh, but m+ is always 
Tanks and BM shouldn't be allowed to queue solo shuffle
Playing Signet Fury in M+ was proper gaming tbh
Those big pulls in the ardenweald part of that grave dungeon - good times
Tanks should be put in a arena with 5 more tanks and no dampening 🙂
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How far behind is the non skull splitter build really for damage. Did some shuffle tonight without it and in was still the uncontested top damage so wonder how much more sks would make it
Not even a contest, play SKS
Really damn. Felt like I was pumping as is I'll switch tonight. Ty
It's like how Arms vs Fury isn't a question either
Like technically you can play Fury, but by that logic you can also suckstart a shotgun
If fury warriors could read they'd be very upset right now.

depends on the comp... sks is less valuable into low armor targets like mage, ww etc. but still good
you're not trolling by using another build, but spear is defs low value now
general rule is that if you're asking these questions you're probably at a point where you can run any build and stomp people if you play properly 
SKS and shockwave really makes it more interesting to play warrior. Less braindead than before
shockwave is busted, idk why on god they buffed it
I'm fairly new to warrior pvp, but why is Shockwave so good? Isn't it just a 2 second stun? Wouldn't that be bad by putting stuns on DR just to get 2 seconds?
it was buffed to 3s
3s aoe stun is actually insane, even on dr its good to stop casts and you can also bolt healer/shockwave dps every 40s

i'll just unbind taunt
Sscchh! They have moles everywhere waving nerfhammers. Secrets best kept in the dark!
Shockwave is bad am i right?
Needs buff tbh
I have the most autistic keybinds in the land - I'm sure there is some space on shift + 9

If you dont have an mmo mouse you need to get one
so is upgrading wpvp still gonna cost trophies on reset?
Oh, I have one, couldn’t play without
That’s how I’m putting stuff on ctrl + 11 and actually press it 😂
Yeah, should be back to how it was during s1
where you earn some trophies each week and can use them to upgrade token gear
i am a bit lost on how to gear early season, anyone with tips? geting full honor gear is i guess prio 1 (which is already banked with honor saved), then will people go for off-pieces trophy-gear or save 2 weeks for wep (depending on vault etc - but lets expect vault is shit as always) - what crafted item and what embellished?
yo anyone here knows
have they added catchup for tier set in s2?
like what we had in SL
being able to craft 4 pieces in 1 week
Buy second keyboard instead
A normal mouse got what 10+ binds, scroll, clicks (l,r,m) and two page buttons. (Then X by modifier keys)

Only mouse muttons I use is m1 and m2 for my camera as well as the scrollwheel for targetting and zooming.
anyone know what rate, if any, conquest converts to honor tomorrow?

late alt.. have some conquest from pvp as well as stacking honor
a few copper each

i dont think we really know
kk
blizz hasnt said anything
standard :d

god forbid if people knew how to best spend their time and currency
before new content
I heard conquest -> Honor -> 25silver?
Currency is usually turned to silver, so ya gonna be rich 
So what does shockwave not have much value into?
we play shockwave into everything now
this is what i heard but wanted to see if anyone seen a confirmation, but guess not
Fr?
so rich!
Shit gotta find something to undbind
shockwave is like avatar. its perma specced into
ah so if kill target is a wizard probably not take it unless other dps is melee?
Tbh i only played thunder vs fistweaver cleaves
we will have to see once ssn starts
so far this build has worked vs almost everything in 2s
Pain and gain dead?
goddamn mage feels so silly in bgs
How is fury warrior in pvp this season? Are we still playing annihilation build or did it change?
Is crushing blow with ravager and onslaught any good or nah?
fury is good but arms is way better
anni build still seems the best tho
I knowwww arms is better but for some reason I am just better playing fury. Maybe because it's easier and has less buttons to press compared to arms. Last season I hit 1.8k on my fury for the elite but I could not get past 1650 on arms to save my life
fury is for the weak
arms is for the men

Lol
How do you do with the button bloat? I don't have enough keybinds for skullsplitter and shockwave
I've had to make like 8 new binds this xpan
pretty insane
I just found the macro that makes Charge, Intervene, and hamstring on the same button, so that was nice
Arms had many buttons?
Yeah, the bleed build add an extra freaking 4-6 buttons lol
Can you link that?
#showtooltip Charge
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast [@mouseover, exists, help, nodead] Intervene
/cast [exists, nodead, harm] Charge
/cast Hamstring
Cheers
Like?
You get sks
That’s it
I’ve never seen a class with so many keybinds to be fair. Never playing warrior before I was like holy fuck….
next gen class
What other macros are you guys using. Any must have weakauras too?
Thunderous roar, rend, skulls splitter and shockwave
And thunderclap
Yea
And whatever PvP talents lmao
What
You always had rend
It just got bloated. I was never used to so many buttons on arms warrior
No I didn't. I used to play hinge build for the longest time untill bleed build was strong
Bro there’s like 3 rows of keybind material lol
You think we are being dramatic? Lol

intervene @ party 2/3 is a must.
i keep my macros minimal
@brazen rock has the alien hand advantage
true i can reach my numpad from WASD
Lmfao
con is i frequently hit two keys at once and my hand cramps after an hour or two cuz i can't find a mouse big enough
He’s going to be the hand model for the live-action shrek movie

Galasimp
have u seen my hand mud


the healers in our guild have such small hands they apparently use ctrl as a modifier with their palm
true woyer hands.
I don't know how the fuck they manage that
I’d ask the mods again but I’m pre sure if I ping them again I’m gonna get banned
Glad hand genes
Bahahahahaaha
It’s the spoon-shaped fingers that are the best part
He scoops his cereal with his fingers
lmao
women love them i swear

ong frfr

they have the built in small curve in sex toys

all set

My bet is no honor reset
It won’t reset
My bet is no bitches
I mean you can already get season 2 boa honor tokens
From the chest
So it would be weird if they reset honor
I have small hands... for my size, which is huge, so
I'm just 6'7 and nearly 300 lean, so, "small hands" are still pretty goddamned big compared to normal people
however
Bet you got hands like trump
proportionately, they're fairly small
Little guy hands
trump has above average sized hands, lmfao, marco rubio shit
yeah yeah, your medio told you so, etc
Look
Little baby fingers
It's okay though
No need to feel shame over little-guy hands
he's 6'2 and 150 years old, to have small hands he'd have to have smaller hands than a 5'9 man (average in the US)
notably, for non-hispanic whites, actual average is lower
He uses non-average size utensils in order to compensate for his little hands
you have invented a strange fiction in your head sir
okay socialism teenager 
when are the realms coming back, I miss when warrior chat was insufferable in the other ways
Bet he has to have shift + x and ctrl + x etc... binds because he cannot reach up to the number 5
I have up to shift 6, I can reach 7 but it's... weird
like have to glide on the shift button and in the heat of battle that ain't good
Small Kahuna
well, technically I can "reach" backspace but that's.... uncomfortable and imprecise
I lied, I can reach the +
new keyboard, sue me
You know what they say about small hands
Small fingers and nails
Exactly
what kind of caveman disease is this tf
big arms/small hands = harder punch
so long as you don't have bitch-made wrists
gives their face a crumple zone if you do
It's called Zugzugitis, Imperius
In what world do you go out swinging
ah
I have no enemies
bitch
that's because you're soijack
EU food made you docile
every good (and evil, and neutral) action of significance will piss someone off
I eat mostly prawns and salvaged goods
tf is a salvaged good
You know how people break cigarrettes?
... actually no
If they don't break them at the filter, they're still smokeable
you eat lucky strikes?
are you a hobo?
Nicotine sharpens the mind
europeans are odd folk
Nicotine isn't the actual problem
it's the, uh, y'know, smoke
I've used (abused) nic gum for it's nootropic effects
LA-air is far more toxic than a smoke
LA is a europhilic shithole
europeans have a distorted view of the world since they outsourced national security to the US and use their defense budget for welfare spending and regulation
You wish you could live lavish in the hood wit no AC
If california weren't shackled by LA, SF, and Berkeley, it would resume it's place as the best state in the union
as it stands, it's hell
Fresno
lol why would you live in CA
Fresno's a nice place
I wouldn't
I worked there for years, I refused to move there
I literally commuted by plane and it worked out fucking cheaper than paying their bullshit
fungus needs to get in touch with his pagan roots and visit the US to shoot fully auto rifles at the range
nice meme
I am a perfect recreation of Ask and Embla
The gods made me in their image
Tell me, have you ever had a shrimp sandwich?
I devour any crustacean within reach
people speak of school shootings like they're a daily occurrence
its not even fried wtf
regardless of the insanity in the US, violent crime has been descending
Do you need batter in your food?
for like 60 years
It tastes of the sea, not of the fryer
and, I would 100% eat the fried po'boy, I would 100% eat whatever fung just linked
disregard EU opinions on US gunlaws
enjoy your grenades and mandatory boyfriend
You just have to prove you're not mentally ill
^
hunting and marksmanship are side benefits
You're welcome
Let's be real: a bunch of yankees should not operate firearms
Whether it's poor trigger-discipline or not following safety
And what has drawn you to this conclusion
okay, that's a fair assessment. Mandatory gun safety classes in schools, I'm for it
Yep, seen a bunch of people putting one in their leg, sub-optimal play to say the least.
if the russians werent drunken donkeys and walked into stockholm tomorrow you wouldnt do anything and beg the USN atlantic fleet for help
Keep talking all that talk
We have before, and will fend off Russia

You wouldn't stand a chance, even with russia basically having blown it's own legs off at this point
Besides, why do these dick-measuring competitions with defense?
because what you leave vulnerable will be taken
I know in your sheltered welfare state that isn't true on the micro level
im perturbed that my taxes subsidize eu defense budgets
but it is true
That's the realistic POV within international relations
I prefer constructivism or liberalism.
Your 2% taxes
(no, they aren't the same thing)
2% tax? i wish
I am talking international relations.
The people in Sweden shit on you?
This actually happened!
in the 1400's? Yes, you were quite strong.
Our prime minister, rest his soul, Olof Palme, compared the Christmas-bombings of Hanoi to the holocaust and the US withdrew their ambassador.
yeah I'm not for the empire building "advisorships" or any bullshit
Regardless of your stance on the war the bombings were aimed at civillians, and he made a point out of it.
meant to drain the american taxpayer and enrich the military industrial complex
that's something the left and the populist right used to agree on
Wars are a filthy thing and should be seen as just that.
the left now sucks their dick, though, and I FULLY do not understand why
It's far too glorified.
"War" is not a filthy thing
It's one of our greatest crimes.
to construct a false reason for war? Deepest, most disgusting crime
the point i was making is that your current societal equilibrium is a direct result of subsidized defense from the US, which if removed, would require either replacement or vassalization from another
How can you come to these conclusions when Sweden has opposed the US for almost a century?
nation-states that have tried unfunded pacifism have invariably been invaded and assimilated
I would understand if you made this point regarding Norway or Denmark.
you think sweden isn't considered greater europe? that if sweden were invaded by ruskies that the US would just stand by?
nato is formality
can you clarify something for me? This is an actual question.
How do grenade attacks happen?
I know, it's overblown
Yeah, severely.
It's been pushed by the reactonary / nazi right for about 5 years now.
well there were a rash of them a few years ago
but if you can't have handguns
how do you get a fucking grenade
Well, generally speaking, due to the lax border-control policies our moderate-right party decided to invoke, the illegal arms trade has taken roots.
Especially within our southernmost and third largest city, Malmö.
there's nothing else to talk about until the season starts
then ill complain about bm hunters, enh shaman, and locks
go gym
get ur sets in before season
Then again, bombings do not occur, it is not something that actually happens but rather something which is politicised for the interests of our rightists.
fuck it go do cardio + rep work
Pull day tomorrow

Yeehaw
you already know your gonna slack a day or two anyways
BM hunters and demo locks should die
i got 3x10 80% squats today so dont bitch
he does cardio
fake warrior detected
Leg day is da worst
LEG DAY IS THE BEST
heavy lifts are cardio
I enjoy deathlifts

yeah that's how we feel about school shootings, but, half the fucking internet acts like kids should be wearing kevlar
I mean it's fucked up you guys aren't doing anything about it
We're increasing police-budgets etc
and what would you do about it, exactly?
Gun control.
You people can obviously not handle them.
because 1-2 of 300 million people a year flip out and commit an atrocity
everyone loses rights and weakens us?
nah
and, is wikipedia a right wing fascist group now?
they said there were 40 hand grenade attacks in sweden in 2016 alone, lol, "they don't happen"
You cannot shoot kids if there is not a firearm in your hands.
You had 19 school shootings 2016.
We're not even halfway through 2023 and you've had 26 shootings this year.
and we had zero before 1999
it's.... weird, isn't it?
let's say (they didn't, not even close) they all killed 100 people
2600 people
You actually had a considerable amount of school shootings during 1970-1980.
As well as during the 90s leading up to 1999.
one guy being shot isn't what most of us consider a "school shooting", targeted individuals, etc
Just shake a kid being murdered off.
angry kid coming to do indiscriminate carnage type killing
How about police-casualties?
murders are murders, school shootings are school shootings, disingenuous socialist scum
okay, let's just shotgun topics
Sweden has had 1 casualty within 14 years, and it was manslaughter.
when you land on something you'd actually like to talk about
page me
I'll be back
Well, you don't seem to mind kids dying so I feel it's hopeless trying to convince you otherwise.
But hey, you get to keep your precious shooting-toys
the preservation of freedom will cost lives, and cost being responsible for something
Is it really that bad for the state to even do a background check on an individual wishing to purchase a fire-arm?
not near as many lives as you statistically ignorant invalids seem to think
but, it will cost lives
yes
government is corrupt
Jesus Christ.
corrupt government cannot be trusted with the power to disarm
gun control was originally aimed at freed slaves, to disarm them
then at the black panthers
both of which, as citizens, should have the right to keep and bear arms
Well, kids being massacred is just a small price to pay, amirite?
the government was scared of these people. As they should have been.
kids being massacred
using my 100 people per episode wild overestimate
that's still an insignificant chance
you're more likely to die of a tire coming off a vehicle
So you know how 9/11 is considered a national tragedy?
you're more likely to be struck by lightning
you're more likely to be crushed to death by a vending machine that you shook
(no, seriously)
and you're, in all 3 cases
more likely to die that way BY ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE
so yes, I won't slit my throat because my finger hurts
Your point being? You stand idly by whilst kids get murdered just because you want 200-something year old amendment to stick.
you're arguing emotionally, not rationally
you'd literally save more kids lives improving the school lunch program
because to be governed by your emotions is to be a slave to them
So, I presume you're full stop against abortion in any context then, yes?
I'm pro-choice 100%.
Abortion does not kill.
lol
so, if a pregnant woman does meth, we shouldn't charge her with anything, right?
(Cough cough) Fury vs Arms - Discuss!
don't worry, varughh, season's coming
You guys seem to like talking to each other but maybe this stuff is better for DMs?
Real
Actually, that would be the guy saying that Sweden was gonna get invaded outta nowhere
shill your pussy shit somewhere else
Arms if you're a true gamer fury if you like it and will have more fun pushing as it
i wonder with the new set if we go fury
I play both but I've swung pretty hard towards arms recently
Arms but fewer buttons.
@stable siren unless something changes in the near future, no
Exactly! im not made for thinking im made for wacking
How do you people live without mortal strike?
From a discussion yesterday the answer is no. Fury's pvp talents are jank and their MS buff is weak which will hold them back
yeah, slaughterhouse is bullshit
Fury is bullshit 😎
gotcha! ty but honestly it shouldent hold me back 2 much, me just a shite 2k rat ill be fine
Makes sense for leveling but otherwise arms remains the more satisfying spec to play.
oh no fury is best for leveling/world content
it's basically immortal to world damage
Yeah like honestly if you don't like arms it's not like you're suddenly going to get 3k because it's better
It's a game play what you have fun with and you'll push
just play with a real MS class and ditch slaughterhouse for utility
or split pressure
it'
it's bad compared to what arms has access to
but
a healing reduction is a healing reduction is a healing reduction
Well correct me if I'm wrong you'd still run it it's just a weaker Ms lol
Does honor get reset in season 2?
If it does it means we'll have to play and have fun in bgs :(🫠
fury is so much fun in pve
you value sharpened over fatality? or what did you drop fatality for?
arms is boring asf
I might have missed this in all the notes but did the season 1 4 set get nerfed in pvp more? I figure it's probably going to be better to just swap right over to all the new honor gear and drop 4 set but I haven't seen any numbers
fury warriors and havoc dh's 
god when are realms coming back uppppp
fuck
specifically had nothing to do today for a reason
I'm ready to quit my job at a moments notice of Maximum finally responds to all my letters to let me come join their raid.
I used to parse in the top .1% but I like, can't now
and I don't know what mistakes I'm making
most of my shit is like, 80% parses in mythicc and shit
I refuse to run mythics to get logs to show. Why would I waste my time for anything less then the top 5 guilds?
I just don't care anymore now though
because you gotta waste that time for the top 5 guilds to even look at you, lol
i used to farm pikaboo every day for my easy 1600cr

yeah, except my story is true, lol
I loved how he made the spear build video and at that point people were already running the DR bleed build
still have r1 parses from back then, I'm still dogshit now and parsing behind my gear 
i once out damaged pikaboo in a warrior 2s mirror
r1 healing parses 
could believe that, he's not the best warrior - just doesn't waste gcds
Warrior healing parses, yes
Too busy saying ladies and gentlemen 3 times in a row 😦
💪
Go gym.
Any of the NA boys online yet and can confirm if Honor was reset btw?
It's not up yet.
I have a home gym and I've lifted today
I need to start working out summer is coming 😦
Home gym and a beautiful view outside of a glass front on the land with no neighbors in sight is my idea of making it
🙏
Goddamn reading this chat in the morning really wakes me up
I put gymnastic rings in the ceiling during covid lockdowns - pull ups and 16/hrs of WoW classic for months on end
and a leg press machine and a lat pulldown machine
dont ask my why i have this unhinged combination of equipment
Does ignore pain get included in heals at the end of a match?
Ur mental fortitude must be insane
Got too bored around level 10
I don't have the view and it's in a sweaty ass garage
still though
worth
Like bro I’m not gonna sit here and press fucking slam and auto attack for 10 hours
I played a warrior in classic, like, the original, actual "classic"
the only thing that i think home gyms fall short on is when you want to do random exercises
not fucking doing that again
like im not gonna have a lying leg curl machine at home
I ranked to 14 and played with #1 NA Speedrun guild through BWL & AQ40
Fkn degenerate time
But good time
the classic zones feel really cool tho tbh
More soul I feel than shit like dragon isles
Which is still nice
bruh the zones have fuck all going on in them
except for og thousand needles
that was my favorite zone
Yeah thunder bluff too
Best thing about classic was the pvp
Not the gameplay but the amount of gameplay interference you can do if you have 60+ turbo-nerds online every hour of every day
Is this chat political or what, wtf is this history
We took maintanks of other guilds hostage with mindcontrol, camped BRM for days on end, 2 servers collapsed because of that
Created a mafia to farm bugs in for the AQ gate
Damn that new mythic mount looks real nice
Yes
Politics and gym, with a bit of wow
if you can break a 1.2k total you automatically get a glad mount in wow
realms up
Realms up, honor didn't reset.
Surprise!
Ty for the confirm ❤️
what is main stat for fury ? what is for arms ? thanks
haste mastery for fury probably still
was haste crit for arms but I'm leaning haste mastery for it as well
especially while sks
this is "I feel like" stuff, not backed by objective data
So what slot are we thinking of using other crafted in?
is there a reason to wait to craft the pvp boots ?
Inb4 it’s a bug and they will reset it in an hour
inb4 wow is a bug and they delete the servers in an hour
Also wtf is DH now, they are soo disgusting again from the games I played today
why not full haste ?
Death from above actually just Nukes you lmao
Can't you spell reflect that shit back? May be funny with the new rebound talent they go up low health and you whack 2 hits right back at em
guys is it a mistake to craft boots right now ?
You wouldnt want to play full haste because its just reducing our globals and iirc we have a softcap at 20% - mastery is just a pure dmg increase for fury, so it makes it quite desirable after we reach that haste breakpoint
you should have almost 100% uptime on enrage now days, which is why mastery is nice
So I just returned after a really really long break and I'm looking to get back into PVP ASAP, what's the preferred spec these days for BGs/Arena?
also worth trying


