pvp

[dark sparrow]

You get the trophy from the boxes when you win Arena my guy

[rotund trellis]

So I guess holding on the spark this week will let us have 2 sparks next one, to at least be able to recraft helm and boots with honor (if conq is capped), to 437

[rotund trellis]

oh i didn't know that, you mean right now?

[dark sparrow]

And no, you get 1 spark every 2 weeks, but you can get one this week

[rotund trellis]

ok cool

[dark sparrow]

Yes it gives a quest item that gives you the trophies as reward

Got it on 2 toons already

[rotund trellis]

ranked arena only or any arena lobby / ss?

[dark sparrow]

Any rated pvp lobby afaik, it’s from the victorious strongbox you get when winning shuffle for example or can buy for 5k honor rn on conq vendor

[rotund trellis]

oh cool thanks for the info

and any idea on what item prioritize next week? helm or boots

[dark sparrow]

No clue

[runic wharf]

i got it from the box, winning an epic bg

[radiant nest]

unrated too

i got it from a skirmish

and on my alt from an epic bg

[azure willow]

so which item do we have to craft first

[teal hedge]

Do you guys also not see damage when checking scoreboards mid-game?

STEEZ ON EM'

How do I even start the new quest?

Do I need to hit da reach first?

[runic wharf]

yes i think u only need to do part of it tho

[rotund trellis]

stupid question, the vault this week is off right? we're not supposed to work on the rated honor, correct?

[clever fern]

well, not gonna complain

[teal hedge]

It's got mastery though :(

[clever fern]

free socket

[craggy geyser]

I think if you click damage done once you open the scoreboard it’ll populate it. Weird glitch

[hot solstice]

u can craft it this week

[teal hedge]

How do you already have shadowflame

[clever fern]

you get one doing the quests

[hot solstice]

need spark

and trophy from pvp quest

Idk

Those quests so obvious for ppl who realy pvp

U can also get some good gold from new green pattern while no one have them

[clever fern]

but why the boots?

[hot solstice]

why not

[clever fern]

isnt helm better?

[hot solstice]

nope

u pick enother embelish

helmet wont be used

[craggy geyser]

Well I crafted the helm….

Guess I’m an idiot

[dark sparrow]

once you upgrade it, the socket is gone anyway

[hot solstice]

there is embelishment that buff u while snarred

but u dont know which slot is better for that

cause we dont know what stats will be on peices

[clever fern]

its just a placeholder till honor gear lol

[craggy geyser]

Did I make mistake doing helm?

[teal hedge]

Depends

[dark sparrow]

we are warr discord, we don't theorycraft so nobody knows

[teal hedge]

U usin da old or da new?

[craggy geyser]

Old what

[dark sparrow]

man idk what to do now, i did the wpvp quests on all 4 chars, honor capped etc

[craggy geyser]

Just wait till Tuesday

Lol

[teal hedge]

I just play to learn da build better and to have fun

[clever fern]

i'll just wait to see what the r1's will be using and i will copy

[teal hedge]

Sheeple

[craggy geyser]

Crafting boots next

[runic wharf]

im gonna play fury and try to make death wish meta 🤡

[urban skiff]

what a way to guarantee your vault will be all boots

[craggy geyser]

Lmfaoooooo

Vault is closed now right?

[urban skiff]

My tactic is to not buy or craft anything, that way I'm forcing the vault algorithm to treat me like a streamer

[teal hedge]

What should I be spendin conquest on?

[limber relic]

wait u can stil do solo shuffle and gain ratings? XD wat

[unique fox]

Can you get the 1800 mogs this week still?

[sharp meteor]

No, or at least you're not meant to be able to.

[limber relic]

i just did a solo suffle and won lol. didnt know u could stil get ratings XD

[sharp meteor]

Ah, ye, brackets are still queuable, and rating/mmr moves up/down, there's just no seasonal goodies.

[limber relic]

3200 mmr tho

not bad xd

[sharp meteor]

Decent way to get a feel for games before season kicks off.

Skirmishes obviously don't have MMR so people just crumple.

[limber relic]

honestly didnt get a feel of anything

just braindead players ngl

xdd

1 game lost cuz afk

[urban skiff]

do we know where to get crest of honor?

[craggy geyser]

Da what? Lol

[urban skiff]

Takes crafted items to 437pvp ilvl

https://www.wowhead.com/search?q=crest+of+honor

[craggy geyser]

No clue

[visual river]

The infurious boots still feel really strong, on demand 500str every storm bolt or shockwave cooldown

We can recraft it as haste instead of mastery now too right ?

Then second embellishment I’d probably replace the helm with the new s2 PvP snare one

[craggy geyser]

I didn’t know you can recraft stats?

[inner elbow]

what about the shadowflame patch is it any good?

[tawny brook]

which crafted items is warrior using?

[craggy geyser]

Don’t think anyone really knows yet

Will the new S2 gear already be a set or will we need to upgrade it like last season

[simple perch]

probably same as last season where its a chance from the vault to be a tier piece, otherwise we have to wait until the catalyst unlocks

[rotund trellis]

😮 great news then!!! Thanks for the heads up!

[tawny brook]

Do you think we will use set?

[vapid tartan]

Is the 10ilvls frim wpvp helm better than infurious helm currently?

[rotund trellis]

can I complete the weekly if I'm capped on honor? It looks like not...

[inner elbow]

nope you gotta spend some

[rotund trellis]

fuck me I just spent an hour in a bg lol

[inner elbow]

happened to me too

[rotund trellis]

got the 450 token tho...

[vapid tartan]

Is it ok to take trinket into triple caster lobby as human?

[rancid heath]

it worked for me and I was cap on 3 toons

Im thinking about rolling war as an alt for s2 can you guys tell me whats the main differences between fury and arms playstyle?

[unique fox]

Arms = zug

Fury = zug zug

[inner elbow]

arms fuck good

fury fuck bad

[rotund trellis]

prot?

[rancid heath]

xD I mean gameplay wise

like what fury has over arms ? like why would someone pick fury over arms legit question hahah

[lean burrow]

easier to play

but weaker

[rancid heath]

ok thanks ! easier u mean just less buttons or less setup?

[lean burrow]

less buttons

[rotund trellis]

god knows how much I hate world pvp, especially at the arcana shit

[rancid heath]

kk and is arms setup heavy or just spam dmg non stop?

[rotund trellis]

it makes me wwant to puke for fucks sake, so many tryhards is insane

like people who have no clue whatsoever about pvp camping for hours on the arcana powers just to feel strong, lmao

[tawny brook]

Damage but the most important thing is you have the best mortal strike in the game

Skullsplitter you have to apply a bleed and deep wounds to get its full effect but it is kind of just rotation.

[rancid heath]

ok so mainly constant dmg + best mortal strike got it thanks 🙂 will try arms as my alt !

[rotund trellis]

lol I sold the recipe for one of the 424 greens for 100k gold

[low sparrow]

Can someone confirm

Fury back ?

[green wyvern]

mvq is retarded

[sharp meteor]

maybe eventually

[undone pumice]

dont ever trust no dh

[sharp meteor]

if game slows down, crit is bad, lots of casters eh

fury is more appealing

[undone pumice]

just like weed from the gas station

[low sparrow]

Lmfao

[wheat jay]

What he wrote is retarded

Meta changes, what was once broken is now weak and vice versa

Best example, dstance

In 10.1 it deserved a nerf, a huge nerf, then it was nerfed in 10.2 when it didn't need nor deserve any nerfs

[shy aurora]

What establishments are we using now?

[craggy geyser]

no ones knows yet

check back next week or 2 lol

thats the answers i get just sharing the knowledge

[hazy isle]

smartest dh

[stark reef]

2023 and people still think game designers are trying to “balance” a game

The only thing they balance is the emotions of their player-base to switch it up just enough to keep you invested and keep you paying the subscription.

How are people still discussing this?

“Design Philosophy”

🤣🤝

Riot said it best: “Our games are made for people that play every day.”

For the guy that rolls and gears whatever class they jack up and gut 3 weeks later. That’s the “design philosophy.”

[fresh valve]

idc as long as fury is a free glad spec

[stark reef]

Same

[fresh valve]

make fury ret 2.0

[stark reef]

Just funny when people rant at the balance team. Their only job is to keep your ass in the chair.

[craggy geyser]

wheres damage at in bgs? da fuq

[fiery marsh]

UI (atleast mine and for a few friends too) is completely bugged since 10.1, no damage in BGs, UI layout resets every reload or change of instance

[obsidian loom]

so we get to make 2 of these this week?

[craggy geyser]

youll be able to do 1 this week and another next

sparks are gated

[obsidian loom]

shit i need sparks?

where do i get that

[craggy geyser]

campaign

[obsidian loom]

do i need rep 13 with all factions for that?

[craggy geyser]

nah

start the new camp

[obsidian loom]

im 4/7 i cant go further

[craggy geyser]

sparks? u should of got them

look in bags

[obsidian loom]

oh this thing

[craggy geyser]

yuppp

[obsidian loom]

man blizz does not explain this shit at all

i guess we go for boots

[craggy geyser]

nope i know

sucks

[obsidian loom]

boots are the right recraft right?

[torpid roost]

Blizzard just adds new random crafting shit and expects you to figure it out

Which is borderline impossible if you're like, employed and not using external sites

[spice hornet]

Yeah there’s a lot of junk

[amber heron]

yo

what is fury bis stats

mastery or haste

some people say that haste is good always vs mastery which only benefits u when ur enrage

but ur kinda always enraged

there is a high ladder player called hapigirl who goes haste

i mean mastery

[torpid roost]

You should be nearly perm-enraged, and "bis" depends on a lot of factors, but, last I checked (like 400 patches ago, s1, mind you) mastery was ahead on flat damage by a little over 1%

Still may have an argument for haste though, like when you're being kited, re-enrage quicker, etc

Rage income

[sharp meteor]

They're both good stats.

[amber heron]

bro there has to be better one

mathematically

the way u kill people is with odens fury roar goes

feel like master is just better for that

[mild thunder]

"bro there has to be a better one" 🤓

[spice hornet]

@stark reef any new builds you’ve discovered?

[stark reef]

I have played less than 60 minutes of the new patch

Gotta give the spreadsheet and Dev note enthusiasts some time to crack the math and then I can just go copy/paste and play the game

[mild thunder]

gotta give the spreadsheet and dev note enthusiasts some time to crack the math and then i can copy/paste specific stat breakdowns and choose bis racials 🤓

[stark reef]

Amen brother

Copy their builds, take their rating

🤝

[mild thunder]

maybe i should just put a murlok.io link in pins instead of what's there

[stark reef]

I’ve graduated from the pins and am going straight to the sauce now

[spice hornet]

@mild thunder stormforged when?

[stark reef]

“Google -> solo shuffle leaderboards”

[mild thunder]

after @brazen rock, i cant go ahead of the goblin king 🫡

[stark reef]

Not trying to copy from warriors that peak 2.4k after years of pvp - no offense

[spice hornet]

We don’t need anymore EU mods

[mild thunder]

i can be the first oce rep mod

🇦🇺

[stark reef]

We got some German gamers in chat?

[brazen rock]

[stark reef]

Any Landesbrüder? Any Kammeraden?

[spice hornet]

Missing @bruin rn

[mild thunder]

missing @ndogofury

[stark reef]

Any “Aaauuf der Heeeide blüht ein kleines Blüüühmelein….”-enthusiasts?

[mild thunder]

@quick carbon bullied him for calling people woke

[stark reef]

🤣

[spice hornet]

Bahahahah I forgot about him

[mild thunder]

he just silently disappeared

[spice hornet]

He gave me bruin vibes

[stark reef]

I tried to get through this cave but once I saw the dragon riding runes on my mini map I logged back out

Fkn Spyro the Dragon all over again

[mild thunder]

i missed the bruin era

rip

[spice hornet]

Think of Roxi but even more retarded and more off the rails

Dude would rage daily in here

[mild thunder]

[spice hornet]

@sharp meteor any good bruin scrrenshots?

[mild thunder]

duck is lowkey the sanest person in this server

[stark reef]

I have some good discord screenshots from classic wow

🤣

[mild thunder]

duck for stormforged when

[mild thunder]

no one wants to see your conversations with your discord kitten (except maybe the police)

[spice hornet]

[stark reef]

Not an egirl enthusiasts - married man + 95% of gamer-girls are a hard pass

[mild thunder]

girls???

[stark reef]

You do you, son. 2023.

Cleaned two servers from the Horde - good times

[sharp meteor]

No. I hope he's doing okay.

[cobalt sparrow]

Can you still get pvp achievements in prepatch?

[sharp meteor]

Sort of. You can earn non-seasonal ones, like 2200 in 3v3, or 1750 in 2v2, but not Rival, Duelist, Gladiator, etc, if that makes sense. Basically nothing tied to a season.

[cobalt sparrow]

besides glad of course

[sharp meteor]

tldr is no elite sets, pennant, tabard, illusion, etc

[cobalt sparrow]

perfectthanks

[sharp meteor]

[mild thunder]

apparently people are still getting aotc and ksm this week

[stark reef]

People said CE till 05.09

[sharp meteor]

Yes, aotc/ksm and +20 ports are still active.

PVP rewards disabled because talents and stuff shifted.

[mild thunder]

that feels extremely stupid

[stark reef]

PvE always does participation trophies

[mild thunder]

same as introducing s2 wpvp gear but not honour gear

[stark reef]

You cannot have people not get their stuff

[sharp meteor]

They really should've put honor gear in, I think.

[stark reef]

Gotta hand it out at the end of the patch

[mild thunder]

^

it makes no sense

[sharp meteor]

I'd like to have my chars setup now. It's all weird and arbitrary to put in token gear but not honor.

[mild thunder]

im not even sure it's intentional

[stark reef]

Free week of your playtime 🤝

[stark reef]

It’s 100% intentional

[stark reef]

[spice hornet]

[tawny brook]

Should I not avatar before rend in the rend>cs>sks combo since I will be using both my instances of recklessness?

Or should avatar be after sks for the sharpen ms and thunderous roar

[random fractal]

is it just me or do i feel alot squisher?

[torpid roost]

dude, I've been wondering about that

[random fractal]

like i am always getting fucked by destro locks

[torpid roost]

crit gets nerfed, stam gets buffed, and I feel like I die FASTER

[random fractal]

like i was running rbgs and was dying so fucking fast as fury

im 430 pvp lvl rn lol with like 630k hp

[mild thunder]

stam buff doesnt really affect pvp

[random fractal]

some shit must have changed cause this doesnt feel right

[torpid roost]

How's that?

[mild thunder]

because the trinket bonus was rebalanced to counteract it

[torpid roost]

oooooh

would explain why my health didn't really jump much

[sharp meteor]

25% more mainstat

[random fractal]

its not alot more mainstat though from the prievious trinket

its more but not a ton

[tawny brook]

I need albert einstein to figure out how to get the current better gear. Having to think sucks

[random fractal]

but like i unironically feel like i die so much faster

[tawny brook]

Do you have the new gear

[random fractal]

430 pvp ilvl

[tawny brook]

O

Skill issue

[random fractal]

apparently, the one day i didnt play i turned shit

[amber heron]

whoever invented fury tier set needs to be let go

[random fractal]

its boring but good so idc

[amber heron]

why would fury want execute lmao

no this season is goodd

talking about the old one

[random fractal]

oh the 29

it was bad for pvp yeah

[amber heron]

bro

wtf

[random fractal]

but it felt nice in pve actully

[amber heron]

its better not to run tier

[random fractal]

well false

[amber heron]

why

execute hits for 30k

who am i going to kill with that

totems

rend hitss harder

rend isnt on fury but

u get the point

[random fractal]

rend hits harder then any fury button anyways

its a dot

[mild thunder]

if your execute was hitting for 30k, idk what to say

you're probably just reading details wrong

[random fractal]

nah it can hit for 30k in pvp

[mild thunder]

if you're slamming into PS maybe

[amber heron]

bro my execute

on the pvp dummy

hits for 20k

[mild thunder]

pvp dummy 🤡

[amber heron]

i can link it

[mild thunder]

yea idk you must have either zero gear or reading details wrong

[spice hornet]

Fought thiccbiscuit on my lock yesterday and he was fury, his #1 dam was ramp then #2 was execute

[mild thunder]

T29 fury had exe crit almost 100% of the time

usually for 60k+

[spice hornet]

That was like 50% of his total ram

[mild thunder]

that sounds right

i had games where it was my top dmg

[amber heron]

my stats r bad rn tho

im full crit haste

[spice hornet]

Where did this creature come from

[amber heron]

bc i was arms

[mild thunder]

[spice hornet]

Seems like a BM hunter player

[amber heron]

i main war

but im new

[spice hornet]

[amber heron]

started in shadowlands

[random fractal]

bro mains meatriding andrew tate ong

uncalled for sorry

[amber heron]

id rather suppprt him then whoever u support

[mild thunder]

oh god

[random fractal]

oh no

[amber heron]

what people do u look up to

im waiting

still waiting

[mild thunder]

i dont have para-social internet daddies

[amber heron]

point proven

[random fractal]

helen keller

i look up to helen keller

[mild thunder]

the point you proved is that you need a para-social internet daddy...?

[random fractal]

really a one of a kind person

[amber heron]

no that u r scarded to say who u look up to

most men have a mentor

or someone they go for advice

their father

idk

otherwise ur prob some loser who plays wow all day with no aspiration

just log on and parse ur fury warrior

[random fractal]

correct

[mild thunder]

ah yea, the good old list of positive male role models: father, brother, uncle, grandfather, pastor, teacher.... tiktok influencer 🤡

[random fractal]

also a correct statement

[amber heron]

looking down upon andrew tate supporterss is ez i get it

but just so stupid

[thick reef]

Imagine not having an anime girl as your inspiration for life, couldn't be me

[amber heron]

what anime is thatr from

[thick reef]

It's actually not lol

It's some fan art for Fire Emblem

[amber heron]

idk what that iss

[mild thunder]

blue hair, must be a feminist 🤡

[random fractal]

real

[thick reef]

Tactical.JRPG

[thick reef]

I mean, in today's day and age, they all are, regardless of anime hair or not

[amber heron]

i beat pikaboo today and everyone on the stream is asking what the fury warriors build was

[mild thunder]

[amber heron]

little do they know i am terrible and have the wrong stats

pikaboo was playing double dps tho

[mild thunder]

Tate would be proud of you, lil bro

[amber heron]

he would not be

he hates video games prob

[random fractal]

tate would probably shoot him then throw him off his balcony

[thick reef]

He plays WoW, ofc he isn't liked

[amber heron]

i dont think he plays wow bro

[thick reef]

I mean you lol

Nah, be like this guy

[mild thunder]

tate would main rogue on god

[random fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/365297753569361923/1103892387031437332/image.png

[amber heron]

no he would be a monk

monk or warrior

[mild thunder]

🤡

[lean burrow]

my broskis, is it better to play alts at the start of season?

[thick reef]

He's not Bri'ish

[lean burrow]

quickly get honor geared, chuck out rival sets on alts

[amber heron]

rogue is such scum

[lean burrow]

then back to warrior

[amber heron]

cheap

cheap

[lean burrow]

good idea?

[amber heron]

cheap

blind

sap

gg

gouge

[thick reef]

You learn to play Rogue by living in London

Walk outside and immediately get Kidney Shotted

[amber heron]

i think a lot of european people play wow

i met this guy from serbia or something that runs boosts all day

10-60 level boosts

[random fractal]

walk into a school in america and a hunter arcane shots you with hit double barrel shotgun

[amber heron]

he says he makes more money from wow then any job in his country

unfortunate but true

cant get rid of guns though

[thick reef]

That's why you Concussive Shot his ass and Camo out

[amber heron]

unsolvable problem

[thick reef]

Guns aren't the problem, I am

[amber heron]

or u disarm him

...

stun into disarm

im literally just standing in valdraken waiting for war crate

is there no other way to get bloody tokens

[random fractal]

i feel like you can very easily get rid of guns

its just the fellas down south would not take it lightly

[tawny brook]

Weird, a commie wanting to cause hundreds of thousands of deaths for their ideology

[random fractal]

and a german man

[tawny brook]

What about him

[amber heron]

im going to try single minded fury

dont know what talent to get rid of tho

[thick reef]

That's the neat part, you don't

[sharp meteor]

Spending additional talents to do less damage. Wish they'd just let us mog our 2hs into 1hs

[thick reef]

Let me become Mr. Fister

[amber heron]

u do less dps but ur faster

kinda good into a caster or bm

[mild thunder]

5% faster?

and you lose dps and stamina

and 2 talent points

[amber heron]

lmao ye

[mild thunder]

so worth

[amber heron]

not worth

[random fractal]

dont let this guy near a stove 🔥 🔥 💯

[amber heron]

if u guys saw my transmog u would be proud

can u double proc sophic devotoin

[vapid tartan]

Tanked 300cr just realized I had a 398 wep equipped instead of my conq

Jesus

[random fractal]

how it works is if you have 1 sophic enchant on 1 weapon, and a different enchant on one weapon it will only give you 900 main stat, but if you have 2 enchants on 2 weapons, it will give you 1800 main stat when it procs

[amber heron]

so it does work?

[sharp meteor]

At least it wasn't a fishing hat.

[sharp meteor]

Yes.

[amber heron]

lmao

i would rather have 1800 main stat

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, big dam.

[amber heron]

then 900 main stat and more haste from frozen writ

[sharp meteor]

The strength also scales with your trinket bonus.

[amber heron]

strength>haste

imo at least

[sharp meteor]

Get a proc during CDs and clobber somebody.

[tawny brook]

Do bgs have a bunch of reward money or something?

[naive fox]

Playing dragon flight for the first time since quitting shadowlands, arms warrior is 70, bought the crafted shitty PVP gear to start, should I be using my conquest/honor right now or holding for next week?

[fossil mortar]

Takes like a couple of hours to farm out honor, so just spend it. Conquest gets reset season by season

Just double-check what next season embellishments you want and plan accordingly

[urban skiff]

hold until next week. the honor gear will be better than current conquest

Just focus on farming bloody coins, capping honor, and unlock trophy of conquest / greater trophy of conquest.
Some world quests will drop 434 pvp gear so keep an eye out for them too.

[stark eagle]

anyone know if Sophic will still be the enchant to go to for arms or is there some new ones out for 10.1

[mild thunder]

Sophic will probably be even stronger

[stark eagle]

excellent

[tawny brook]

You cant earn elite armor anymore right?

[woeful solstice]

nope

[dark sparrow]

Oh god, why do we have an andrew tate fanboi in here now? Can we just go ahead and nuke the server already

[muted surge]

Who? Gala?

[fiery marsh]

Guys how do I make the arena frames in bg disappear?

[muted surge]

Default ui?

[fiery marsh]

yeah the blizzard arena frames in BGs

[dark sparrow]

Nah Gala has actual braincells up there so can't be him. its this chase guy

[fiery marsh]

I wanna hide it cause I use battleground enemies

[muted surge]

Idk I don’t have them

Prob some addon and not default

[dark sparrow]

if you "unfold" the menu for your frames, you can just click hide

[fiery marsh]

What do you mean?

[mild thunder]

fuck off

i would never

[muted surge]

such a Tate thing to say

[mild thunder]

[dark sparrow]

I'll see if I can screenshot it to show you once i'm in a game

[dark sparrow]

actually i can just ss it from mes. You see that bar on the left with the arrow that's pointing right

you can click it to expand the menu and iirc, you have the option to hide partyframes theres

[fiery marsh]

I meant arena frames that pop up for enemies in bg, not allies bro

[shy aurora]

So pikaboo made a rant video about warrior lol. Im the only guy that dont love that guy?

[lean burrow]

dont love that guy

watching latest videos

[shy aurora]

Eh ok

[tawny brook]

What class gets to mess with the enemy healer most other than rogue?

[mild thunder]

every spec should be messing with the enemy healer

[tawny brook]

I feel like I have more cc on hunter than my other guys. It is fun so I wondered if anyone had a bunch of cc for healers. It helped my rating a bunch by focusing on that aspect a little more

[remote hawk]

Does pvp gear also scale in pvp outdoor ?

[elfin surge]

time 2 win

[mild thunder]

no

[remote hawk]

answer me :c

[mild thunder]

no

[remote hawk]

😦

[mild thunder]

it scales when you engage someone in pvp combat outdoors

[remote hawk]

ohh its still like that

thought they changed it

[teal hedge]

You start fightin and you get da stats

Simple as

[remote hawk]

thx !

[gloomy raven]

Is there a cap to bloody tokens that you can hold?

[heavy crown]

hello new to pvp here, how do i get sets ?

[bleak falcon]

is that a mud the orc on icecrown cluster? the legend who stood in front of stormwind with a waaaaayyy too big fleshcraft all that time ago?

[elfin surge]

[bleak falcon]

idk why i remember that but i do

[elfin surge]

[elfin surge]

what would we do without @mild thunder

[craggy shell]

the best stats for war arms is now haste ????

[royal rose]

Debating on giving Ret a try this season, Ret, enhance, feral are the only melee I haven’t gotten 2k with so it seems like it’ll be a fun little challenge

[craggy shell]

thought it was crit

[royal rose]

I think haste

[craggy shell]

i swear they were all stacking crits few weeks ago

a lin kwith the blood/rend build ?

[royal rose]

Haha yeah I took a little break and now everyone’s running haste, thunderous roar, skull splitter and shockwave 😂

[craggy shell]

well my bad to just copy the talent

and not thinking through

[royal rose]

Honestly just going of tier sets fury might take back over

Arms tier set is trash

Bonus*

[urban skiff]

Arms has a great base kit though

I really hope we can just choose instead of having one spec be significantly stronger than the other

[inner elbow]

tier sets are nerfed by 50% anyway

[urban skiff]

(fury looks best)

[tawny brook]

And tier stuff has like no versatility and its effect is nerfed 50%

[inner elbow]

many classes prob wont even use it in pvp

[royal rose]

Oh shit maybe so, I’ve been out of the loop.

I had a blast playing fury early season 1

[muted surge]

Imagine there is a new season with different balance patches

Maybe crit got nerfed

[urban skiff]

wait crit got nerfed?

[elfin surge]

ye

[fiery marsh]

How do I fix this shit queue status disappearing and the bar being the size of my dick? its bugged since 10.1 patch day and I havent even changed my fuckin UI

[urban skiff]

how'd you get WoW on your phone?

[fiery marsh]

It's just a small screenshot lil bro 💀

[elfin surge]

"size of my dick" "small screenshot"

[manic patio]

Which embellishment do we want on our boots?

[fiery marsh]

it was bigger on my monitor no 🧢

[craggy geyser]

No wayyy arms is insane without tier lol

SKS fucks

[royal rose]

Yeah I’m probably overthinking it arms feels crazy right now

[elfin surge]

shockwave just hits so diff bro

[royal rose]

So I know skullsplitter causes rend to expire but does it cause all the damage over time of rend to immediately happen or does it simply remove it?

[elfin surge]

whatever damage rend has left, it will instantly do. Fresher rend is more burst

[royal rose]

Wait hold tf up are you THE mud?

[craggy geyser]

no

its not

[royal rose]

[craggy geyser]

hes a fraud....

[royal rose]

[elfin surge]

[lean burrow]

THE woyyer

[craggy geyser]

lmao

[royal rose]

[near delta]

I thought that was Dekel?

[elfin surge]

@neat robin

[near delta]

Lmfao

Is he still muted or whatever from last year?

[elfin surge]

who

[near delta]

Dekel cause you wouldn't 1v1 him or whatever tf he was going on about

[elfin surge]

i think he got perma banned from this cord

@neat robin isnt him

thats fake

[vapid tartan]

got lucky bois

[royal rose]

@elfin surge huge fan

[elfin surge]

wtf

[elfin surge]

[vapid tartan]

Did it 3 times got it with a socket

Looks like imma craft 450 boots and push a bit

[royal rose]

So I’m guessing honor isn’t going to reset since it didn’t reset Tuesday

Need to focus on getting my pally to 70 tonight, I’m glad they added that new crafted pvp gear so I won’t feel like a potato in the honor grind

[vapid tartan]

Y’all how do I sim whether 434 helm is worth over infurious helm? It 434 250dps higher but it’s also not taking into account the infurious helm dot

and there’s also the increased stats from 434 piece

[muted surge]

You don’t sim for pvp

[vapid tartan]

Which do you think is better?

[royal rose]

I’d say 434 but I also wouldn’t worry too much about it you’ll replace it all next week haha

[muted surge]

The helm does no dmg

[lean burrow]

who's better, mud or joefernandes?

[craggy geyser]

mud

all day

i crafted the helm then mud said i fucked up... which is okay... ill wait 2 weeks to replace lmao

[vapid tartan]

You went 450 helm?

[craggy geyser]

indeed

minor mistake

[vapid tartan]

was thinking we will keep boots 510 str every storm bolt is nice

So against mm/destro or destro/mage who do I prioritize?

[inner wraith]

Yo guys i am new to retail pvp. What things I should do before jumping into fight?

[lean burrow]

read all specs' cds

[frosty nexus]

joe is better at screaming down his mic on stream

[elfin surge]

joe 100%

[royal rose]

Idk mud butt is pretty hard to defeat

[elfin surge]

[urban skiff]

who here hoping fury > arms?

[inner elbow]

not me

[green wyvern]

dekel > all

[urban skiff]

for me i think it's about what cost. Accidental buffing of fury to take over? Yes please! if it's arms nerfed down under fury then i'd rather be a rogue

[royal rose]

I had a ton of fun playing fury but arms just feels more natural.

[lean burrow]

who's stronger on warr: mud or pikaboo?

[elfin surge]

[lean burrow]

pikaboo said he got rank1 on warr

[elfin surge]

in shuff

sort by 3s cr

[lean burrow]

[vapid tartan]

Mud do you have a human warr

[elfin surge]

no

[vapid tartan]

F

Was wondering if it’s worth to take medallion into double caster on the human

[elfin surge]

Orc, Belf, Tauren, Nelf, Gnome, Orc, Orc

[vapid tartan]

how’s Tauren with shockwave? Think you’ll get more stam bc of racial right

[elfin surge]

yea tauren sucks

but idc

i like the look

[vapid tartan]

Against what comps do we drop tclap in sks

[elfin surge]

Not sure yet

i hate clap in 2s

i love clap vs fist cleaves in 3s

sks kinda sucks into rogue mage but what else is there really to play

[vapid tartan]

I tried dropping sks into enh/mage didn’t go better than with the sks for me lmao

[elfin surge]

sks is kinda our burst now

[vapid tartan]

Speaking of enh, does it ever become kill target over stuff like mage/lock/hunt

Guessing only when a ranged is kiting los?

[elfin surge]

yea ofc

enh sham gets crushed by sks

[vapid tartan]

Damn healer was telling me to sit destro

[royal rose]

Destro can chunk if you let it free cast but if you’re playing into enhance in your LoS pillars than it would’ve been fine

[vapid tartan]

Yeah I think I need to work on baiting people into los the other dps

[elfin surge]

for like destro enh

i would go destro so i can cleave both

destro kill target enh can die

enh frost mage is a different story tho...

[vapid tartan]

It was the zandalari troll themed map with stairs and second floor and lock was kiting me hard with the portal, would the move have been to go other side of big central pillar with everyone and bait the enh?

Also is there any counter to lock portal on the second floor other than leaping?

Mugambala*

[near delta]

Wow lol

[elfin surge]

yeah that map is super aids

[elfin surge]

fear gate

[near delta]

I legit kinda miss barbarian on fury. That double heroic leap to stop locks from putting up there port was fun af.

Wouldn't do anything now that they can put it up isnta tho

[elfin surge]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/992187721

2 years ago

@vapid tartan

[royal rose]

@elfin surge is a self hating warrior though, look at his transmog he identifies as a Pally

[elfin surge]

i just need

shoulders

for dreadnaught

[vapid tartan]

Wtf

So you have to time it while they are in gate?

[royal rose]

Worst thing about new patch dropping is that work feels like it takes forever lmao. Haven’t touched WoW in a month until Tuesday and now I’m just fiending for it 😂

[elfin surge]

ye

stops them mid gate and puts it on cd

[hot solstice]

30k tick rend lmao

[royal rose]

I abused DK to duelist early in the season, took a lot longer to get there on my warr. The little bit of DK I’ve played since being back feels a lot weaker than it was, seems like the survivability got nerfed

[elfin surge]

yeah i see you in the dk cord

unholy tho so we cool

[royal rose]

Yeah idk if I’ll pick it back up this season, I’m really thinking warr/Ret will be my main two but who knows I’ve never played a max level pally 😂

I had never played a max level DK prior to this last season either though so who knows maybe I’ll get lucky again 😂

[spice hornet]

Hi Mud

[elfin surge]

hey 🙂

[spice hornet]

Thoughts on a no-bladestorm no intervene no rally build in shuffle since they are affected by damp??? @elfin surge

[elfin surge]

i think ur stupid

[royal rose]

[spice hornet]

[elfin surge]

[royal rose]

Why is that your pfp

[spice hornet]

Giving out any more free rating today?

[craggy geyser]

Bahaha

[spice hornet]

Need to know if I should queue

[royal rose]

[craggy geyser]

[elfin surge]

i want @spice hornet to death grip me in nice and close and asphyxiate me with his big hands then he can put his pillar of frost inside me so when hes done with me i can let him blinding sleet all over my face bc im a good ghoul for daddy

[royal rose]

[spice hornet]

Average dk player things

[elfin surge]

frost dk things

[spice hornet]

No wonder you love queueing with petkick

[elfin surge]

twitter things

[royal rose]

Anal [Death Grip]

[spice hornet]

I’m looking for a male mentor to look up to, can anyone help me find one? @elfin surge @mild thunder

[elfin surge]

Bajheera or Sonii

rank 1 warrior and swole

[spice hornet]

Bajheera? The guy who goes into bgs to kill noobs with 4 pocket healers then leaves if you kill him?

[radiant hamlet]

You guys used 1 shadowflame spark and 1 trophy of conquest to make the pvp boots 450?

[elfin surge]

yeah

[royal rose]

@storm lichen I say I abused it because it was just really easy, I got 2100 in solo shuffle faster than I did on toons that I had been playing for years lol. DK was so strong early on, so much damage and almost impossible to kill

I didn’t even make a pet kick macro until 2k, I was just raw dogging it

[fiery marsh]

Is there any downside to playing a polearm as a fury warrior? like do I hit less with it than with a sword or same shit

[sharp meteor]

No, it's the same as any other 2h aside from having a different attack animation.

On the PTR there was only a mastery spear, which is probably gonna be bis for pvp

[torpid roost]

Dark iron dwarf not even in the conversation anymore?

[stable urchin]

Which embelisment we want lads? on boots

[elfin surge]

was listing my characters. I dont play dark iron

[torpid roost]

Oh

Nevermind then 🤣 I swear my iq drops when I'm in this chat

[elfin surge]

[unique fox]

Low IQ is a requirement for playing war effectively

[sharp meteor]

Fireblood is now 25% more potent, so if there's a lot of dot heavy specs in the meta I could see it having potential. The 1% reduced physical damage is also a decent time, although I imagine there'll be a lot of wizardry in the future.

[craggy geyser]

I switched to warrior from DK and Hunter and this is the best time I’ve had playing this game. For fuck sake is it fun blasting people

[royal rose]

@elfin surge so is it Vers > Haste > Mastery > Crit?

For arms

[dark sparrow]

[teal hedge]

Mastery is super-poop

[torpid roost]

Mastery does feel like it needs some help

[inner elbow]

i dont think crit is very good anymore tho

crit dmg is down from 175% to 150% and SKS cant crit anyway

[torpid roost]

as I understand it, it can

but it's like

[inner elbow]

bleeds dont crit

[torpid roost]

iterated over 31047813 instances

[unique fox]

The ticks from your skullsplitter definitely crit

[inner elbow]

they do?

oh nvm im wrong then

[torpid roost]

"periodic can crit"

I am not certain that deep wounds can

[craggy geyser]

Star priority is the one pinned to this thread right?

Still best?

[torpid roost]

Don't know that that's been updated

[craggy geyser]

Yeah it’s 10.1

[torpid roost]

oh

then yeah

[craggy geyser]

Says it at the top zug

Lol

[torpid roost]

such a good emote

[craggy geyser]

It really is

[inner elbow]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/nerathor/thomasman

r1 warrior with 0 crit on gear

[torpid roost]

post crit nerf that may make sense

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, straight stam gems because he only queued with a Fistweaver and Brewmaster.

[torpid roost]

iirc it was only barely ahead

stam mastery

tf

[sharp meteor]

Mastery isn't a horrible stat for damage it was just less volatile than crit which swung games.

[sharp meteor]

Stam helps fistyweaver.

Because they'd have gaps in their healing at times.

[torpid roost]

yeah, I get the utility of stamina

[elfin surge]

shuffle

[sharp meteor]

Just straight vers/stam helps a bit in that regard because they're playing a tank comp.

I thought the standard mixup of haste/crit was better and more fun for standard play, though.

[inner elbow]

true xd but he did compete in awc tho

[sharp meteor]

Mastery was the "I dont' like rng" stat.

[sharp meteor]

He's the tank comp guy, right?

[inner elbow]

[elfin surge]

[elfin surge]

yeah ggs

[craggy geyser]

Is the prio good that’s pinned or do we think that’ll change?

[sharp meteor]

The season hasn't started.

[craggy geyser]

I know

[torpid roost]

patch has landed, though

knowing priorities is a valid endeavor

I just don't have an answer

[craggy geyser]

Same

[elfin surge]

vers haste crit mast

[sharp meteor]

We have our conservative guesses which are subject to change

[torpid roost]

I'm in this corner, being as that's basically how I geared in 10.7 as well, I don't see much changing in 10.1 with a crit nerf

[craggy geyser]

Thank you

[torpid roost]

may stack some mastery, rather than relying on RNG, but I'll have to sim the actual throughput/burst window differences

[sharp meteor]

Vers for instance usually isn't very good for damage but offers some defensive value. Then there's crit where the value is hard to judge because if your comp isn't bursty or the meta as a whole isn't volatile then it's less valuable.

[torpid roost]

also part of my thinking but the 25% primary stat boost has made people feel MORE squishy, ergo, more volatile

[sharp meteor]

Mastery, in theory, is more damage, you just lose out a bit on those random game swinging crits on goes. Like, if you have an ms/unhinged, sudden death or w/e crit back to back during a sharpen that can force another button.

Which is like a hard thing to really quantify

Versus just doing 3% more overall with mastery for instance

[torpid roost]

yeah, more panic situations appearing randomly

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, and when games are super unstructured and messy it can be good

just randomly ding somebody for half their health

force a trinket and 2 cds

[torpid roost]

coughshufflecough

[sharp meteor]

Yeah like shuffle in particular has a lot of overlaps in response to "random" burst

[craggy geyser]

It’ll all iron out in a week or two but I’ll build off what mud said in the meantime

[royal rose]

Mud of the Mud Hut Clan

GUUUUL DAAAAAN

[elfin surge]

time 2 win

[urban skiff]

I'm definitely proof that low IQ isn't enough

[inner elbow]

no way they put @elfin surge in minecraft?!?!?

[elfin surge]

i am a natural block

[inner elbow]

damn i wish i was that cool

[pale minnow]

yo guys what should we craft with 450 pvp ilvl?

[torpid roost]

A girlfriend ||I don't know, honestly||

[royal rose]

[muted surge]

Wait

Until season

[royal rose]

@pale minnow everyone else seems to be going boots

I went boots

[shy aurora]

Is honor getting reseted when new season begins?

[craggy geyser]

No @shy aurora

Conquest only

[sharp meteor]

Hopefully not.

I wish we could buy honor gear now.

[shy aurora]

Aight got honor capped, need to farm honor on my enha. It is 367 ilvl but iguess its fine on reset if i get honor

[dark sparrow]

It might get reset, it might not. No official blue post but some site said they stated that conq and honor will be reset every DF season

But than again it also doesn’t make sense that you can use the s2 badge of honor already that “has to be used during season2” and s2 isn’t even started yet

Also apparently they removed min ilvl to join shuffle? I was in a shuffle earlier today with a guy in pretty much full lfr gear 386 or smth

[urban skiff]

there's no reason for them to reset honor when we can buy next generation of bloody token gear already

[hot solstice]

How often air supply is dropped in caverns?

[rotund trellis]

every time my solo shuffle lobby is ready

on a serious not, every 15-30 min

[urban skiff]

why cavern?

[hot solstice]

new shadowflame enhant viable or better sophic devotion?\

[rancid heath]

this, I am wondering this also

[near delta]

Noice

[oblique patrol]

pretty big buff for warr imo, we can probs take 4 set for free now with all the vers we will get

if not 2 set will be much better now

[mild thunder]

Considering 2pc is a ~2% dps increase and 4pc is about 1-2% I don’t think it’ll matter

[oblique patrol]

Any dps increase is good tho right, even more so if we dont need to sacrifice Vers for it, the amount we would lose before was enough to deter us using 4pc - but now it looks much more applicable

[mild thunder]

It just won’t really make a difference one way or another

Still losing a lot of vers to take 4pc

As well as general stat agency

[torpid roost]

MORE IS BETTER, RAWR

cumulatively 4% damage for..... about what % of vers are we gonna lose

[mild thunder]

It’ll be closer to 3% tbh

In exchange for losing out on probably >3% vers

[amber heron]

do u guys think its worth losing tier set right now

for the new war mode gear

[mild thunder]

Which is dmg, dmg reduc and healing (all of which we get use out of)

[mild thunder]

Yes

Just replace tier pieces last

[amber heron]

ye ofc

[sharp meteor]

It's nerfed by half.

[torpid roost]

nerfed by half =/= completely worthless

[mild thunder]

It’s nerfed by half and it’s crit-based

[torpid roost]

okay, that might be a valid point

[mild thunder]

Tier sets just won’t matter much this season for pvp, which is a good thing

Run it, don’t run it - it’s a minimal %swing or boost to versa either way

[torpid roost]

one of those racial-like arguments, minimal difference

[mild thunder]

If you have to ask questions about those things, you probably have other stuff to focus on first

[inner elbow]

is badge vs insignia just preference?

or is one objectively better than the other

with current spec

[torpid roost]

I'll probably lean towards the haste/rando one again

but that's like, opinion not based in fact

[oblique patrol]

I feel like badge is weird now as we dont really have 1 min windows that make it convenient without going out of our way for it, plus with the need for haste now - insignia just feels like the more solid pick imo

I see alot of high arena warrs mix with the 2 tho, so it could just be a preference

[inner elbow]

i do see more people running insignia tho

just hate the rng part of it, badge is just reliable

[craggy geyser]

@mild thunder stupid question. But if not the PvP gear what do we use? I’m not doing pve lol or are you saying we just don’t convert to the tier piece?

[torpid roost]

is there a more sane way to farm out bloody tokens than going in that Rhuzast fuckfest/praying for war crates?

[craggy geyser]

Just wait until Tuesday and it’ll all be replaced

[torpid roost]

the honor gear is >434?

[inner elbow]

437

[torpid roost]

oh shit

well fuck this bloody token shit then lol

[craggy geyser]

Yup lol

[oblique patrol]

Only thing id grind bloody coins for is the weapon, that way you can get a guarantee weapon upgrade on week 2 by holding the 2 weeks of Strife tokens if you dont get lucky on vault, then you can use Conquest freely instead of doing the 3-4 week hold

[torpid roost]

also how do we farm strife

I'm like, old, we didn't have to do all this bullshit back in the day

we just like, cleared raids then went to pvp with our ill-gotten gains and shit

[inner elbow]

u dont, they are timegated

[torpid roost]

well I have zero so apparently I've done like

nothing

[craggy geyser]

You and me both buddy I’m getting old as shit

[oblique patrol]

We should get a spark quest next week that will give 8 strife like in ss1 - weapon is 14 iirc to upgrade

[craggy geyser]

2007 was a long time ago and that’s when I started playing this fucking game

[torpid roost]

oh

so I SHOULD have zero currently

[inner elbow]

indeed

[torpid roost]

2005 for me man

OG addict

didn't go hard on it until tbc/wrath though

[oblique patrol]

you should have 1 Spark of Shadowflame to do crafted gear - the resource to upgrade Bloody Token gear we should have 0 of currently

[craggy geyser]

Oh you’re really OG yeah I was in the first set of rated PvP in BC

[torpid roost]

yeah, I was awful at it, but I was there for Gladiator season, lol

if I could go back knowing what I know now I'd be r1

[craggy geyser]

You’re saying to grind tokens for the weapon instead of waiting on the vault? And then upgrading the weapon with strife?

[torpid roost]

but, so would 90% of us

think I have a half a shadowflame

but i haven't done the campaign

was gonna do that today prob

[craggy geyser]

@oblique patrol if tier set 4 pc isn’t desired what would we run just normal conquest gear without making it tier set?

I’m so confused

[torpid roost]

yes

[oblique patrol]

Im grinding tokens to get the weapon and then ill be holding 2 weeks of Strife tokens on the case that i dont get 2h in vault, will work out 3 Item Level lower than the conquest weapon, but i can use conquest to buy like 3 items instead of holding it all

If we dont take tier we just buy conquest gear

You can get gear crafted if you need to with better stats, but rn i dont think it will be needed outside of Embellishment items

[craggy geyser]

And the system will work the same where you buy conquest and use the item to turn it into a tier? If you don’t get it auto tiered by the vault?

[oblique patrol]

in 6 weeks yeah, the catalyst isnt out till June or something

[craggy geyser]

Ahhhh

[oblique patrol]

we will get 1 token that can be used to make a item into tier when we hit like 1800

so id advise waiting till you get 1 tier in vault, then using that to get 2pc

[craggy geyser]

So we will all be in conquest until June or so really or the 1800 thing

[oblique patrol]

depending on luck and Tier balancing yeah, if Galachad is right on the value of tier, im guessing we will play 2pc only and rest conquest gear

[craggy geyser]

Okay makes sense

Ty for the info

[oblique patrol]

Np mate

[mild thunder]

Just don’t convert it

Probably

[mild thunder]

DI lost a ton of value after assa meta died

[vapid tartan]

So with tier changes are we still just running 2p? Can see swapping into 4p against cleaves

[dark sparrow]

I can see DI not being to bad start of next patch with ferals being kinda cracked and it’s not that bad vs locks

But yea there will be 0 Assa since every rogue will be sub

[vapid tartan]

Mainly to get rid of crit curse vs demo?

[dark sparrow]

All locks have crit curse

[vapid tartan]

wtf

[dark sparrow]

It’s in their warlock tree, not spec tree

[vapid tartan]

I’ve never had it used on me ig

That’s wierd gotta check the wa

[dark sparrow]

Than you must be at pisslow I guess

No flame

[vapid tartan]

Was playing 2.4K ss, but the locks I played against went 0-2 rounds won so

Might just be that

is it ever worth taking sr talent pvp talent into destro?

Warbringer/sharpen/rebound

[dark sparrow]

Weird, my locks at 2.4 did use it, you using the mes WA? Cause with that you can’t miss it

[dark sparrow]

Personally not a fan, rather have the shorter cd 20% magic reduction

[vapid tartan]

Yeah I am, and it shows in big red that I’ve been crit cursed hard to miss

I’ll try and look for it more in today’s games

Probably not just being aware enough

[hearty orchid]

dont forget you can dispel yourself from hex with bitter immunity

always fun seeing the shock on shaman's face when u let the hex cast and then off gcd remove it and execute

[mild thunder]

Don’t take warbringer

Shit is ass

[vapid tartan]

So disarm/sharpen/? For melee and sharpen/?/? For ranged what do you take

[mild thunder]

Banner and sharpen are pretty much 100% lock-ins

Disarm, duel, demolition are all situationally good

Rebound would be kinda nice if it weren’t for the 10s CD increase… having an extra reflect so stuff doesn’t get soaked by pets/small shit is cool

[vapid tartan]

So like into double wizard if you have to los for a second banner and keep zuggin?

[mild thunder]

Just use it for important cc chains (ring, fear chains etc.)

Stuff you won’t be able to kick

[candid citrus]

any fury pvp'rs in here? lf info on 450 crafted item this week

[oblique patrol]

Should be same as arms, and you craft the boots, mastery is a great stat for fury anyway and primary stat on bolt is perfect

[mild thunder]

no one really knows what's "best" yet

and the likelihood is that there isn't a "best", but we craft a few and switch them out on matchups

[sage raptor]

I know whats best stat

but I will only tell those who have more chromosomes than me

[mild thunder]

🙋

[sage raptor]

oh you want round 2?

[candid citrus]

ty for the info

[short flax]

aye, thinking about getting back into WoW for season 2 pvp. been researching what classes sound good and they say Hunter, Mage, Warrior, Shaman is going to be the best in the upcoming season. Im torn between Warrior or BM Hunter. thoughts or suggestions?

[candid citrus]

warrior, always warrior!

[raw blaze]

idk been trying crit/haste - mastery/haste I am just not feeling the damage. My MS crits for 40-50k my pressure seems weak outside of splitter. Meanwhile other classes are critting over 100k still.

[short flax]

gotcha

[mild thunder]

??

i still see >80k ms crits easily

[raw blaze]

i'll lose my mind. tested for hours and ms on anything that isnt cloth does piss damage

[vapid tartan]

What do you crit on dummy?

[raw blaze]

over 100k on pvp dummy

[vapid tartan]

Hm that’s wierd, maybe you are hitting into defensive or suppression?

Crit for 98k on a geared enh last night

[raw blaze]

oof I wonder where i am messing up. tested on a demo lock and enh friends haven't had a decent ms crit on them. wonder if ditching the 4 set has anything to do with it

[vapid tartan]

Probably a bit, but it’s nerfed 50% now rifht

what talents are you running?

[raw blaze]

idd

the recent shockwave build

[vapid tartan]

Yeah idk if you have impale and sharpened blades should be everything for ms right?

[raw blaze]

yep

ill test with 4 set again tomorrow. driving me nuts how little pressure i have outside of splitter

[torpid roost]

43 casts 10 crits

doesn't crit a lot

but I'm doing 63kdps (pvp dummy, no vers no armor)

over 10m damage, so, that's sustain, burst is >120k

try running WLT and make sure sharpen MS/SKS are inside of the WLT reck window

I have a dumb idea

warning, it's like

level dumb

Drakebreaker and Scalewarden gear is 2 separate sets.... does the 4p stack on them?

like, stun me, I get 120k shield

[vapid tartan]

Damn @mild thunder u were right banner is so good

Bannered into rogue opener+ freezing trap

[torpid roost]

war banner is the shit

I'm a fucking mongoloid so I macroed it with avatar

still get value out of it

[vapid tartan]

cant believe I haven’t been using it xd

[torpid roost]

120k on a stun could be massive for wpvp though

especially with the 6,000 ministuns in pvp now

well, guess it won't proc twice inside of 2 minutes, so actually maybe not that yuge