pvp

[vapid tartan]

what about when ur with a ranged?

[fresh valve]

listen bro

just become well liked on the internet

and other streamers will boost you for free

not only do you chase a bag u also get glad

its a win win sitch

[torpid roost]

Right?

Wish I'd stuck with twitch

Then again I'd almost certainly have been banned by now

[teal hedge]

I only use da gram for socials

[fresh valve]

https://tenor.com/view/cancel-culture-strikes-again-gif-25590506

[teal hedge]

Got da realis account on da platform

(I post 2-4 times a year)

[torpid roost]

Lmfao, you're damned right, Armstrong

[dark sparrow]

So will we have to wait another week till s2 actually begins or does it start insta tomorrow btw?

[mild thunder]

1 week in-between

[dark sparrow]

[mild thunder]

i need the time to gear for raid

i need the time to pick a class for raid

[indigo barn]

Mud needs to level another 6 warriors

[mild thunder]

1 of each race

[dark sparrow]

guess im just gonna do some HC for the week than

[tawny brook]

Is monk or ret easier? Which has more keybinds?

[dark sparrow]

ret is def easier

[tawny brook]

Is enhancement shaman difficult

I know they have a ton of keybinds

[dark sparrow]

actually, i might just go and get elite set on dk real quick this week than since apparently you can still get them rn

[mild thunder]

it's got a lot more to manage than most melee specs

and it's similar to ww in that it's a non-linear spec... it's more about managing CDs and using situationally-optimal buttons instead of following a typical rotation

ret is literally 123412341234

[dark sparrow]

yea its disgusting how faceroll it is

[mild thunder]

enh and ww are both incredibly well-designed specs imo

[scarlet kayak]

Really? This week still?

[dark sparrow]

can confirm for ww, played it s1 SL in pve and since main stat was vers i started pvp'ing again and that class was so fun pve & pvp

i was just to shit of a player to handle a glass canon like ww at that time

[dark sparrow]

apparently, just heard this in a stream

[prime fern]

Will next season honour gear be higher IL than current glad?

[mild thunder]

Yes

Honour ilvl is 434

[inner elbow]

isnt it 437?

[quaint ruin]

Will honor reset?

[obsidian loom]

You can't once they lock cr which is today in the US

Tomorrow in EU

[dark sparrow]

but i don't think they actually lock cr, they just lock it in on the leaderboard but iirc you can still gain/lose cr during offseason

[teal hedge]

Wait, does season 2 drop the third in Europe?

[wooden grove]

Honor doesn’t reset only conquest

[dark sparrow]

10th

[wooden grove]

Ele sham is just press the things that light up

[undone pumice]

[mild thunder]

honor is being reset

[teal hedge]

He's joshin you

[mild thunder]

blizz already confirmed it

[teal hedge]

It's the third.

[dark sparrow]

no, third is when patch drops, season drops 10th

[teal hedge]

Thought new season dropped with the patch???

[dark sparrow]

well, you thought wrong

[wooden grove]

Haven’t been able to find anything official on honor just on bloody tokens and strife. Weird to change it 30 seasons into the game.

[mild thunder]

this is also the first season that honor gear will outscale current season conq gear

so yea, it makes sense

[halcyon lark]

hey people.. i have been farming elite set for so long anybody got a healer wants to push 250 rating?

[inner elbow]

wait is honor being reset fr

[mild thunder]

there was a wowhead article on it

i am 99% certain

[inner elbow]

cock ass

[mild thunder]

it'd make sense, and probably be good tbh

incentivise everyone to have a week of casual bg mayhem

[inner elbow]

i guess so

[dark sparrow]

I just read on dotesports that honor will reset every DF season but i don't see any source for it so taking it with a grain of salt

[wooden grove]

Samesies

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

deal with it, libtards

[wispy drum]

Finally got Grand Marshal

Losing my shit rn. We'd have gotten tabard / weapons if we played just one day earlier.

can't be mad

[mild thunder]

people still play rbgs?

[dark sparrow]

next season gonna be so fkd man

orc mandatory, boomkin op

[teal hedge]

Holy shit

I gotta eat 320 grammes worth of protein erry day lest I wish to lose muscle

[mild thunder]

how is orc mandatory?

[teal hedge]

Orc has a lower stun-timer, right?

[mild thunder]

doubt boomkin will be op as long as ret is top-tier as well

hard-counters rootbeam

[dark sparrow]

cyclone will be the best cc in the game

[mild thunder]

10%, nothing major

[dark sparrow]

sub rogues getting a 4s cheap shot apparently?

[mild thunder]

cs was never nerfed iirc

[teal hedge]

I think it's kinda nice to see the meta get a little shifted?

You don't always have to be on top 💪

[mild thunder]

it'll just be jungle meta to start the season imo

feral and bm dmg is both looking omega fucking retarded, and neither rely majorly on crit

well, jungle/cupid

[dark sparrow]

started this season on my feral first as well, class was fkn stupid

but just unfun

[mild thunder]

feral was stupid all season, people just hopped off because they saw some nerfs

only thing it struggled with is being W keyed

[wispy drum]

Not really. It was super dead.

Hero was 2460.

It's my favorite thing in the game but it's not everybody's cup of tea

[radiant nest]

i am running gnome right now on my warrior

[teal hedge]

Going for racials is cringe

[radiant nest]

blizzard with a suspiciously timed race change promo

[teal hedge]

I pick the coolest looking ones

[radiant nest]

are you insinuating gnomes dont look cool

[teal hedge]

Hence why I have a dranei and a worgen 💪

Little people, I could punt them

Hohohoh

[muted surge]

Reported

[sage raptor]

No!

It was only joke

[teal hedge]

<@&257983573498265600>

[muted surge]

Too late

[sage raptor]

Teehee

Aw :(

[muted surge]

#report-dms

[radiant nest]

prot memers in shambles

went on a 0-7 run in epic bgs this morning as ally

trying to farm up some honor

[mild thunder]

<@&257983573498265600> i dont care if it was a joke

get him BANNED

[radiant nest]

this makes up for my 11-0 run yesterday as horde

[mild thunder]

[teal hedge]

THE FEAR

[sage raptor]

NOOOO

AJHH

[mild thunder]

[sage raptor]

I'll fight tooth and nail

Just nail. I need my teeth

I don't like bananas and apple sauce

[mild thunder]

dude

apple sauce is fucking goated

[sage raptor]

You're in my nightmare blunt rotation

[mild thunder]

@sage raptor you're lucky fam, im vouching for you in DMs

[sage raptor]

Who? expose them

[mild thunder]

aight, time to report the mod in #report-dms

[sage raptor]

God dammit

I constructed that pasta with my own hand

[obsidian loom]

Are 10.1 class changes today?

[sage raptor]

Yes

[obsidian loom]

[teal hedge]

Today for US, tomorrow for EU

[sage raptor]

If you're na

[obsidian loom]

Where's mud

[mild thunder]

eurocuck

[sage raptor]

Tomorrow for PU

[obsidian loom]

No one gives a shit about EU

[teal hedge]

DAMN

Aight triple entendre

[obsidian loom]

EU characters should be deleted

[mild thunder]

isnt EU like 1.5x the size of NA?

[teal hedge]

Yeah EU is pretty big

[obsidian loom]

Bigger != Better

[teal hedge]

Also kinda funny, because people still flock together via languages, even though almost everybody speaks english

[mild thunder]

que? no habla anglais

[teal hedge]

I was in a danish guild a little while, but then they moved servers and factions, and now I'm guildless :(

[obsidian loom]

Except you guys have ruskies you have to play with

And they int like crazy

[teal hedge]

Ruskies are fine

[mild thunder]

muy bueno moi espanol

[sage raptor]

Bro I love danishes. The strawberry ones are the best.

[teal hedge]

They're chill, if I had a cyrillic keyboard I could communicate better wit em

[obsidian loom]

Also you guys produce people like drainerx

What an absolute degenerate

[teal hedge]

Bladee 💪

[obsidian loom]

Whazz

[wheat jay]

@fickle forge found you a date

[teal hedge]

Draingang

[sage raptor]

He can't handle me 💅

[mild thunder]

a queen knows her worth 👑

[teal hedge]

4000$

[wheat jay]

Yass queen slay

[obsidian loom]

@elfin surge ilu bb you gonna post your secret 10.1 build so I can copy it ?

[sage raptor]

I bet you he doesn't even have as many chromosomes as me 😤

[mild thunder]

no one does, popo

the doctors have been confused your whole life

[sage raptor]

And don't you forget it

I've been confused my whole life

[mild thunder]

Chromosome-man 🦸

[teal hedge]

Popo his own species

[mild thunder]

he was the first of the Retardians

[obsidian loom]

My only goal this season is to abuse the absolute fuck out of whatever broken fotm spec there is to 2400 and dm people that the game is balanced with enough vitriol to upset them but not enough bad words to get banned

PvP mains deserve this

[dark sparrow]

Popo evolved, just backwards

[mild thunder]

he's the benjamin button of chromosomes

[obsidian loom]

BM hunter looking particularly busted atm but we'll see

[sage raptor]

Chromosome-aire

[mild thunder]

the chromosome magnet

[sage raptor]

People ask how many and I say yes

People ask how high and I say Didney Worl! :D

[mild thunder]

@teal hedge

did you also burn a quran?

[teal hedge]

???

This photoshopped?

[mild thunder]

average swedish teen

[teal hedge]

I don't see it

[mild thunder]

what's the number for Interpol?

[teal hedge]

1

[dark sparrow]

can confirm, is not photoshopped

[teal hedge]

????

I literally do not see this

[mild thunder]

bro is not aware of his recruitment

[dark sparrow]

<@&257983573498265600> please be aware of possible terrorist in here

[fickle forge]

I already have Szabina

[mild thunder]

(he DM'd me a bomb emoji)

[fickle forge]

Bro lowkey blacked out the upper part lmao

[dark sparrow]

can't trust them swedes

[rapid moon]

Stop with the useless pings, ty

[mild thunder]

[dark sparrow]

if only we had a stormforged so we didnt have to ping

[teal hedge]

Broder min ❤️

[dark sparrow]

[mild thunder]

@brazen rock for stormforged when

[sage raptor]

Make Popo stormforged.

[mild thunder]

he has the fingers of a discord mod

[teal hedge]

Oy vey

[dark sparrow]

@calibri for stormforged when

[fickle forge]

When is @scarlet barn becoming SF?

[teal hedge]

I got thick fuckin fingers

[sage raptor]

I heard Popo would make a good candidates

[teal hedge]

Been bitin on em' since I was like 13

[fickle forge]

#FreeCalibri1

[mild thunder]

trust me, varuugh has fucking FINGERS

not just fingers

FINGERS

bro's fingers are built like spoons

[dark sparrow]

libtard cancel culture got our boy and we have had enough #FreeCalibri #postbench

[sage raptor]

Galachad knows because they went up his pooper

[teal hedge]

Also got wrinkly knuckles from havin dry skin when I was younger

oy vey

[mild thunder]

@brazen rock you have been summoned

[teal hedge]

Holy fuck

[sage raptor]

They call them the prostate pressers

[teal hedge]

You were not kiddin around

[mild thunder]

bro's got grippers

[teal hedge]

mf climbs onto the wall and stays there like geckop

[mild thunder]

bro was custom-built for rock-climbing

[teal hedge]

Why does your pinky only have two segments????

You're missing a joint!½

[muted surge]

That’s not natural

Is he on finger steroids

[teal hedge]

My guy looks like the one blacksmith

Lemme find it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57vQ1FrUQ4E&ab_channel=ToolSTouR

Yeah

Look at this

[mild thunder]

guy in the first vid really just dipped his hands in some oil and took a vid

[teal hedge]

Real

Hey smoothskin

[mild thunder]

guy in the second vid is not human (like varuugh)

[sage raptor]

I think they have an ointment for that

[modern pilot]

is fury the giga nuts in 10.1

[mild thunder]

ointment? the guy needs a chiropractor for his fingers

[mild thunder]

no

i legit dont know why people even bother asking, fury has almost never been the play for warrior pvp... it's been good/strong for like 3-4 seasons in the history of wow

[modern pilot]

20 second 36% ms looks good

also 25% more hp makes sustain better i was thinking

[lean burrow]

it's 24%

[modern pilot]

crit nerfs didn't touch fury much either i dont think

[sage raptor]

Just like you don't touch bitches

[mild thunder]

still wont stack if you have any other ms on your team, which is fairly common AND you dont have agency on when those stacks go up like arms does

[sage raptor]

sorry

[mild thunder]

and fury's self-healing was nerfed to compensate for the stam buff iirc

[modern pilot]

ah rip

yea in shuffle that ms not stacking is so lame

[mild thunder]

but even if neither of those were true, it just doesnt have the tools arms does

[modern pilot]

mainly a sharpen diff no?

[mild thunder]

nope

[muted surge]

Why do people want fury to be viable

Game should be reduced to 5 pvp classes

[mild thunder]

arms is tankier, has a better dmg profile, better cc-avoidance, better utility, is less susceptible to downtime, has an extra talent point, better finishing potential, doesnt die if you intervene etc.

it's not even remotely close between the two specs

[sage raptor]

Okay but

Fury has two swords

[mild thunder]

fury is just compensating

arms is confident in itself

[teal hedge]

The people on the healer streamer I am watching is encouraging picking up fistweaver as first healer

Any takes?

[mild thunder]

doesnt need to walk around with two swords... it knows it's the chad

[modern pilot]

damn arms is sigma chad

guys i think turbo will be the most disgusting thing to grace this game next patch

[mild thunder]

i wouldnt tbh... chances are FW will be giga-nerfed not too late into 10.1

and it doesnt really teach you a lot of the fundamentals of healing

[scarlet barn]

I shall one day

[sage raptor]

Then why does it need all the protection it has?

Fury is kill or die.

[mild thunder]

it needs to protect itself from the endless onslaught of pussy it attracts

[sage raptor]

Boi pussy

Sure

[mild thunder]

(i have never touched grass)

[mild thunder]

the best kind

[sage raptor]

[mild thunder]

still sad my fire mage's name got banned

Combussy

[sage raptor]

Prot uses a shield to reflect the boi puss

Even have an ability called boi puss reflect

If that's not op, idk what is.

[mild thunder]

arms bends over and uses ignore pain

[toxic compass]

Regarding cutoff time last night (1 AM EST). Does it count solo q matches that are going on before 1 AM hits, lets say you gained the necessary rank but the shuffle ends after 1 AM?

[modern pilot]

i got banned for a hunter named poonfiend

i was so confused bro

[wheat jay]

You got some side hoes huh?

Am I not enough for KFC anymore?

You gonna push glad with her too huh!?

[fickle forge]

Yeah

[wheat jay]

REEEEE

[sharp meteor]

Ratings going grey disables rewards and snapshots people

also they were 55-57 minutes slow to shut off the seas

[modern pilot]

what are the odds the servers come up early

[radiant nest]

more than likely we eat a 1 or 2 hour delay

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, decent chance it gets pushed back and/or is crashy/buggy.

[toxic compass]

thanks

[obsidian loom]

What's the chance blizz forgets honor vendors again

[sage raptor]

High

There's a YouTube channel called down right delicious

A guy with down syndrome cooks

I thought that was hilarious

[muted surge]

everyone knows jamie oliver

[copper hare]

that famous basketball player or

[spice hornet]

I didn’t know Roxi had a YouTube channel @sage raptor

[scarlet barn]

@fickle forge

I am the storm(forged) that is approaching

[fickle forge]

Provoking

[scarlet barn]

Black clouds in isolation

[fickle forge]

Are you the reclaimer of your name?

[scarlet barn]

Maybe i was born in flames

[fickle forge]

I'd say you've been blessed

[teal hedge]

I was born in Sweden 💪

[stark reef]

You can also watch me on TTV “Zlatorz”

https://youtu.be/tn-KfujjlhM

See you in the chat

🤝

[teal hedge]

League :(

[vapid tartan]

So will infurious boots be changed to increase the new trinket set bonus? And do we know what we will be crafting

[stark reef]

Winners game

Only the brightest

[teal hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/nicolas-cage-smoking-cigarette-lord-of-war-taking-a-drag-gif-20367466

My honest reaction:

[wheat jay]

F

[teal hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/bob-hund-thomas-svenska-vad-fan-säger-han-gif-23789422

[scarlet barn]

You have been blessed

But in reverse

[fierce elm]

Im sorry for that

[wheat jay]

Better than Poorland

[wispy cedar]

yeah I agree

[idle falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/world-of-warcraft-world-of-warcraft-classic-rogue-rogue-pv-p-gif-18999746

me every time i go up against a rouge

xD

[teal hedge]

Hemozz you sweet summer child

[torpid roost]

Rogues aren't much of a problem for me, I still don't know how to handle demo locks

Intervene your healer when you see the rogue not targeting you

Be in defensive for his opener, get in combat asap

[stark reef]

Kill obelisk, fear tyrannt, train lock through all CDs

Warlocks win by slowing the match down - they are wows control mages - you win through tempo

[vapid tartan]

How do y’all play into mage/mm/disc

Felt like I couldn’t get much uptime for sks on either target unless I los heals

Was playing human so I didn’t have trinket, should I have just hit closest and try and stay near a pillar?

[stark reef]

Gnome + Unhinged, train MM all game

[woeful solstice]

This is the fucking way

[brazen rock]

Hi, ty for finding this

[brazen rock]

Biggest hands gets it, let's gooo

[brazen rock]

10ish years of concrete, working labor / high risk security my entire life. Concrete exposure caused swelling that just never went away

[muted surge]

are you good at arm wrestling

[modern pilot]

hope yall are ready for turbo

[vapid tartan]

i have a gnome already, my others are human and orc that root break is so nice

tempted to make another gnoome

[brazen rock]

Nah I'm trash, 1200 lb total but my technique for it is absolutely shit

[vapid tartan]

thoughts on taking spear build against mm/mage?

assuming no root break racial

[scarlet barn]

Shadow ping

[stark reef]

🤝

[vapid tartan]

why doesnt warr have a heal spec

i want to heal people with my rage

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, scream at people to stop being a pansy and walk it off.

[radiant nest]

Same

Maintenance not ending early so I can’t duck out of calf raises

Sad

[stark reef]

[radiant nest]

I set all my lifting records when I was like 18 and I don’t know that I’ll ever reach them again but it’s good to be back lifting you know

[sharp meteor]

Oh god is that a weight

Are we gonna get nuked again

[stark reef]

Not a fan of maxing out. Had plenty small injuries that had me take 2weeks to 3 months off, never worth it

5x5 imo sweet spot

[radiant nest]

I’ve been running PHAT the past two months, I really like it

Good call though on minimizing injuries

Takes way too long to recover now

[stark reef]

Also just feels very bad to squat heavy just to have knee pain going down stairs

Heard good things about PHAT but never tried it

[radiant nest]

Lol or how tight your hip flexors are from sitting all day despite foam rolling and stretching

[radiant nest]

no honor gear at vendors

reeee

[sharp meteor]

Cheeks poking through helmet.

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, no new gear yet.

[radiant nest]

semi serious question, but in turbo, what is the harder dps to play

[vapid tartan]

Can we still queue up shuffle?

[worthy fern]

@radiant nest enh for sure

[radiant nest]

`assuming they also have way more keybinds

[muted surge]

Good that you are not a pussy who uses gloves to lift

They make me cringe everytime I see em :<

[stark reef]

Just have to make sure the gloves match the purse

[stark reef]

Someone said May 9th is S2 start but might have frozen your rank so probs just for honor and fun?

[vapid tartan]

oh I just wanted to increase the rating on my Alt don’t need the rank anymore

[graceful ginkgo]

They are getting the new embellishment (main Stat after kick, etc)

[elfin surge]

holy fuck warbringer is huge

[radiant nest]

bloody tokens are up

[vapid tartan]

How different does our damage feel with the crit nerf

[stark reef]

Did they change it?

[elfin surge]

yea

nerfed its damage by 65%

increase range to 20 yrds

[vapid tartan]

So it fucks vs bm and demo?

Does Loss of control include slows like hamstring or is it only bolt and fear

[dark sparrow]

Someone built a shockwave build yet so we can full zug turbo

[dark sparrow]

Is it still worth playing tho?

[stark reef]

Wait warbringer, the charge modifier?

They increased the cone of it?

[elfin surge]

yea

its prob a dead talent now

maybe not idk

[sharp meteor]

The nerf to crits n stuff probs already killed it if pacing slows down

[stark reef]

65% sounds bad - what about root duration?

[sharp meteor]

and u can't 1-bang somebody in the slightly longer root

[dark sparrow]

It’s time for d-d-d-duel

[stark reef]

Pls god no, I loved warbringer

[obsidian loom]

Lmao blizzard forgot honor gear vendor again

Jesus Christ

[dark sparrow]

Thanks for betatesting so we can have honor vendor tomorrow, brave NA troopers

[dark sparrow]

Guess it’s time for death sentence mandatory talent

[obsidian loom]

What did they fubar with talents

[stark reef]

Does the root splash, to?

Or just root main target + dam in cone?

[vapid tartan]

So the only way to queue up ranked is full bloody token gear atm?

[graceful ginkgo]

bloody tokens and honor didn’t get reset, did they?

[sharp meteor]

dam in a cone roots

[vapid tartan]

Tokens got reset

[sharp meteor]

but now in bigger area

[vapid tartan]

I rbi n

Think

[stark reef]

That’s kind of nice, no?

[radiant nest]

nameplates busted for anyone else?

[stark reef]

If you play ranged meele into double meele you can easily root both?

[sharp meteor]

All my shit is broken, lmao.

[radiant nest]

im just killing rhuzast on all my toons for the 434 item

[dark sparrow]

Did your honor get reset @radiant nest ?

[radiant nest]

no

full honor but no honor gear at vendor yet

[lusty magnet]

if im playing warlords torment - do i de-sync avatar and warbreaker? or still use them together

[radiant nest]

bloody marks reset

but there is updated bloody marks gear at malicia

also, the bloody marks pvp tint goes way harder than the warrior tier set

just saying

[vapid tartan]

so guessing hands and shoulders will be the best tier combo?

and 4p is looking pretty useless huh

[tawny brook]

Are we going to use any pieces with it having like no vers

[vapid tartan]

Well 2p is just flat 5% crit and crit dam

Is it cut in half in pvp?

[tawny brook]

Yea

[woeful solstice]

fuck ya

pennant is nice

[peak portal]

Can I still get the mount this week or nah?

[woeful solstice]

no

[craggy geyser]

No honor gear vendor? Sadge

[zinc willow]

Happy i saw this. yes its busted for me too.

[zinc willow]

Someone please tell me why a blood dk out dpsed 90% of everyone in that bg?

did they buff tanks or something?

[severe skiff]

that scalewarden spear looks nice

[copper hare]

always comes with the start of the season for new patches

only exception is start of a new expansion usually

[undone pumice]

mythic + spec

in aoe cleave meat grinder

[sharp meteor]

Hahahha lmao

[zinc willow]

well its ugly

i dont appreciate it

gonna complain about it for a lil bit then ill be alright

[frosty nexus]

can any NA gamers confirm if honor got reset

i had honot cap on 13 chars gonna neck myself if it does

[zinc willow]

no my honor isnt reset

[stark reef]

no honor reset

but also no conq-reset

why is my mini-map in the middle of my screen?!

camera controls broken, to

[simple rock]

this patch has some serious issues live

[obsidian loom]

wow source code must be a wonder to behold

[undone pumice]

only comparable to dota 1 and team fortress 2

[obsidian loom]

i dont think anyone actually coded TF2

it was basically default assets with a guy making skins

pubg is worse

imagine developing a game where it lags when you fire your first shot

[stark reef]

I am not even using some fancy UI, its all standard + WA's and TellMeWhen

And I can't even pan the camera around

🤝

[obsidian loom]

why would you need to do that, you're w-key class

[stark reef]

Say no more

Might as well go first person at this rate

[obsidian loom]

fuck is this

[mild thunder]

Not important for pvp

[obsidian loom]

if we're underground, wheres my fight club basement arena

does holinka do anything at blizz

[stark reef]

Ok, turns out wow is just straight up no longer recognizing my mouse

Feelsgoodman

[radiant nest]

Sanity preserving move: close wow and go outside

Until they fix UI

Then we can all degen spam arena

[stark reef]

Yeah, already closed it

[radiant nest]

I gave up after killing rhuzast

Europeans gonna be real smug with their NA beta tester takes

[radiant nest]

Probably just randomly flexes in the mirrors around the office before deciding to nerf or buff a spec by 1.724%

[obsidian loom]

is m+ 10.1 already or is it in limbo like pvp?

[copper hare]

next week.

[sharp meteor]

People have a week to work on non r1 keystone stuff.

[sharp meteor]

Idk keys but do the cutoffs ever drop much

I think I know two groups that are like <5 points below

[obsidian loom]

so there's like nothing to do this week

main story quest is busted

this guy doesnt die

[sharp meteor]

Do the new zone stuff and unbreak UI.

Apparently nameplates randomly not working.

[obsidian loom]

same

[robust parrot]

thanks NA for beta testing for us

[copper hare]

not really, idk

[obsidian loom]

nameplates fucked

[copper hare]

but im also 100 above so I don't really care

[sharp meteor]

Grats.

[copper hare]

pve andy

But ive heard solo shuffle had some giga win trading the last days

must be fun playing rng shuffle

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, one borked lobby can crater you like 60 points or something so imagine you're pushing r1 on a spec and somebody who mains that spec is on their alt and just tanks you out of cutoff range.

[steep cairn]

Can you grind bloody tokens today?

[woeful solstice]

ya

[tawny brook]

Turn off your addons

And your mouse will work

Maybe

Wasnt letting me turn my camera and stuff when I got on

[mild thunder]

so i didnt wanna say anything about this for the last few weeks in case it was fixed, but precog has just been straight removed from the game and blizz never addressed it

[tawny brook]

They are giving it as an item

[mild thunder]

they were supposed to

[tawny brook]

An embelishment item or something

Yea on this coming Tuesdau

[mild thunder]

but they never bothered putting the item in

are you sure? the new embellishments are already available on TP

the new melee embellishment is there, new leather etc. etc.

but precog was never re-introduced

[tawny brook]

Could it be because it is pvp related

[mild thunder]

the new pvp embellishments are already in the game

they were on ptr for ages, precog was just never introduced or addressed

so either blizz completely forgot about it, or quietly ushered it out of the game

[worthy fern]

Sooo change in trinket bonus is a huge direct buff to IP and deep wounds right ? Thoughts anyone

[tawny brook]

Orc or gnome. Who is the true kang

[radiant nest]

Short kings

[tawny brook]

Im human and I guess im supposed to be switching trinkets against casters and stuff

Fuck that

[mild thunder]

not really?

curious what your thought process is

[lean burrow]

both scale from strength?

all healing nerfed -> ignore pain is stronger compared to everything

idk what actual changes are

[mild thunder]

IP was buffed separately, but yes the stamina change (without the buff to IP) would have made IP technically a less effective absorb

since it would cover a smaller portion of our health

hence the separate buff to IP

self-healing/off-healing across the board was buffed as well, and %health effects were nerfed, so it's pretty much in-line with everything else

[quick carbon]

how do the crit nerfs feel for warrior

[mild thunder]

wdym? we got an 8% slam buff to compensate

[worthy fern]

@mild thunder Ip scales off attack power

As does deep wounds

[tawny brook]

Isnt that just going to make it scale like every other ability

Are you talking about from the trinket bonuses?

[worthy fern]

Yea

I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure it only scales off main stat and vers

[mild thunder]

the trinket change was to offset the massive stamina changes in pve

so yea, there won't really be any difference

[worthy fern]

How does that not make Ip a bigger absorb

Should be even better if health went down also

Oh health went up

[indigo barn]

25% gain is more than trinket by far

[mild thunder]

does anyone remember how much hp they had pre-10.1?

[worthy fern]

Wasn’t it like 380k or something

No that’s way off

[mild thunder]

it was about 400-415k iirc

so based on my napkin math, IP shields you for 2% more of your hp in 10.1, but that could just be because im misremembering hp/ip values

[quaint ruin]

Do we need to farm any other curreny than honor? Like some BoP currency for embellishments? Tier upgrade? Is it any different/new quest/npc?

[tawny brook]

I was hoping the world pvp gear would go away

[torpid roost]

408k

Buffed with Stam at 424

Priest stam, I mean, no gemming for it or any bullshit

[lean burrow]

bis geared in shuffle

[torpid roost]

There ya go

[sage raptor]

w

[tawny brook]

How is new fury feeling? About the same?

[sage raptor]

good

[fresh valve]

I only care about fury in pve

[mild thunder]

not a whole lot has changed yet - people arent using new gear, no one has new tier set, season hasnt started yet etc.

[fresh valve]

pvp I prefer arms

[torpid roost]

Probably gonna be slightly stronger in 10.1, warriors historically have done well with gear (though that's fairly normalized now) and cc all took a hit

[mild thunder]

none of fury's real issues have been addressed

it'll still be turbo ass

[fresh valve]

fury's been shit in pvp for 3 xpacs

excluding necrofury

[mild thunder]

fury has always been shit in pvp

it's been good for 3-4 seasons in the history of wow

[sharp meteor]

Kyrian was also a decent time. Cosmic-Eternal was a vibe.

[fresh valve]

arms was still way better

[sharp meteor]

No, not really.

Maybe in retwarr.

[mild thunder]

fury was only really strong because of 405 ms

40%

which was turbo retarded

[sharp meteor]

The mobility and damage was good.

Arms just didn't tear through stuff the same way and it lost some of its durability.

Fury was also a little easier to be effective with.

[fresh valve]

TG gavel + jaithys was pog

Asscandle + Razing annihilator gonna be the move this season

[obsidian loom]

arms has too many buttons if we have to go shockwave

i want to just zug

[fresh valve]

rage management is gay

[unique fox]

what the fuck has happened to my ui

why is the minimap in the middle of my screen

[tawny brook]

Turn off addons

[sharp meteor]

Oh, I had this. Going into moveanything and hiding minimap fixed it.

For some reason I couldn't click anywhere on my screen with it enabled

[unique fox]

Yeah thats my issue as well

It is one of my out of date addons fucking things up

[sharp meteor]

I couldn't even turn LMAO

[tawny brook]

Turn off addons

Fixes the mouse and the minimap both

[spice hornet]

i like how warr MS got nerfed a bit back because warrs were slinging out 120k+ MS but a WW does the same thing with RSK aand doesnt even have to worry about Csmash etc

[mild thunder]

Dude just beat them in the 1v1 lol

[spice hornet]

your right

arms is realyl good at duels now with the ignore pain buffs

ok no cap cheap shot feels like an eternity holy fuk

destro feels REALLY good

[mild thunder]

I can’t wait to verse bm in 3s and not be able to kill pet

[fresh valve]

on some mad bomber shi

call me Kaczynski

[urban skiff]

When are we getting access to the new honor gear?

[sharp meteor]

We don't know.

By Tuesday.

[urban skiff]

ah damn

and no stockpiling strife until conq gear releases i bet?

[mild thunder]

when blizz remembers that pvpers pay their subs too

[urban skiff]

so literally never?

No but seriously, can we even do something to prepare for s2?

[fresh valve]

save up $120 minimum to boost a fotm spec

[urban skiff]

why? levelling takes like 3 hours for speedrunners and 5 for others

[mild thunder]

anyone buying leveling boosts needs to get a grip

[woeful solstice]

brother i did not want to level 4 warriors normally

100k for 60->70 was well worth it

[torpid roost]

Can you explain having more than one of a class to me?

I know a lot of top people do it I just don't get it

[unique fox]

I'm leveling a second war to fuck around with my friends alts

that way i dont sewer my rating on my main

[woeful solstice]

can play warrior with anyone so i dont have to worry about rating

also i have them on 2 seperate accounts so i can solo que 2x

2 on each account

[mild thunder]

i specifically meant RMT boosts

if you're just spending extra gold on 60-70 that's not as bad

[mild thunder]

different builds/stat makeups, playing with friends, stomping low rating games, separating for pvp/pve, enjoying different races' aesthetics

[woeful solstice]

oh

[sharp meteor]

play with more people

leapfrog to avoid stress

try new races

try diff builds

alts are super easy now and fuel more alts with conq boxes

[torpid roost]

Ah. I just played with everyone then focused on rating the last week or 2 of the season

[sharp meteor]

one nice thing is just playing lowest alt

so you never tank your main or highest char

[torpid roost]

But Elo has changed and I'm not hardcore anymore

True

[tawny brook]

I dont need to do any campaign stuff for pvp do i?

[unique fox]

Bloodletting applying rend is actually quite nice

I was hoping theyd make it so skullsplitter reapplies rend but this is even better

[tropic siren]

Does anyone know where the "calling all competitors" quest starts?

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, you get the item from a loot crate.

Like, go do a skirmish win for one. Pretty sure it's a guaranteed drop.

[spice hornet]

you think this guy has a job IRL?

[teal hedge]

Finals in swedish today

Oy vey

[tawny brook]

If you were using two two handers 1 2h mace and 1 2h sword, which weapon goes in right hand

[muted surge]

The faster one

[mild thunder]

i dont think it matters, does it? pretty sure rage-gen and dmg/swing is equalised, no?

[muted surge]

The last time it mattered was cata I think

[tawny brook]

I just meant for looks

[muted surge]

Then I would transmog to have the same wep twice :>

Two different weapons always look shit

Okay maybe not always

[spice hornet]

fury does a lot of dam

in a brain dead manner

doesnt even press BT

[fresh valve]

had my finals 6 hours ago

[mild thunder]

can you not have your ugly ass mf addons overlapping please

jesus

[spice hornet]

Come fix them for me daddy

[mild thunder]

bet

[sharp meteor]

Unlocking my gladius just for you

[tawny brook]

Is arms easier to get 2100 on?

Than fury

[mild thunder]

[sharp meteor]

Also a quick reminder that pvp trinket bonus gives more mainstat so anybody not tracking their insignia and sophic devo proc might wanna start doing that

[shy aurora]

Can we still q solo now?

[tawny brook]

Yes

[muted surge]

Not if you don’t like it

[mortal gulch]

guys, i have a human related question: When should i use "will to survive", and when should i use my trinket in pvp?

[muted surge]

Well 1 works against stuns and 1 works against everything

[tawny brook]

Race changes are on sale. Orc or gnome

[mild thunder]

Gnome

Legit so strong, plus badass af

[mortal gulch]

should i go for double dmg trinket then?

[mild thunder]

wouldnt recommend it... being able to trinket disarms, poly's, clones etc. in a pinch is pretty important

not to mention it's a full 60s shorter CD

[mortal gulch]

okay

[mild thunder]

just save EMfH for stuns and medallion for non-stuns, and you basically have a 90s cc-break

[mortal gulch]

so

to summarize it for me as a newb

use will to survive if possible, otherwise trinket

[mild thunder]

pre much

[tawny brook]

Is gnome good as fury too?

Doesnt look quite as popular as it is for arms

Roots and slows are my biggest whine so maybe gnome would be comfy

[muted surge]

Real man play double dps :<

[fresh valve]

Darkspear

[teal hedge]

Pretty sure I nailed it?

600-800 words required

I wrote 700 words in one and a half hours

(We got 4 hours worth of time, but I finished writing way earlier 😎)

Schedule clearing up, wow becoming more plausible by the day

[visual river]

So with crit being nerfed to 150% instead of 175% are we putting more importance into haste vers bleed build season 2 on arms?

[vapid tartan]

Will 2p dps increase worth the loss of vers?

[mild thunder]

What slot for unity?

@copper hare @spice hornet

[tawny brook]

Orc is still top tier after nerf right?

[radiant nest]

Are we farming bloody tokens this week or what’s the move

[radiant nest]

It sounds like you really want to play orc my guy

You’re going to have games where you wish you had a root break and if you go gnome you’ll have games you wish you had a slightly lower time sitting a stun

With the cc changes and lack of season play until next week it’s hard to give an objective answer on what the meta pick is

[graceful ginkgo]

ashkandur doesnt clip the floor on gnome, so there's that

[radiant nest]

Your shoulders aren’t comically large either unless you play as female orc

Instead of male orc

Tbh female orc has the most human proportions of any class in wow

Including humans lol

[radiant nest]

The Venthyr 2handers are BIS imo

[magic wing]

Pvp dead for a week B

?

Or you can still earn shit

[craggy geyser]

did anything change with our talents that i need to update? ive been away for a couple weeks

[tawny brook]

???

[elfin surge]

we play shockwave now

[elfin surge]

[manic patio]

Do we still stack crit as arms even with the crit nerf?

[mild thunder]

[elfin surge]

its lit

[mild thunder]

3sec aoe stun with NO target cap is actually busted

and the range on it is insane

[elfin surge]

literally same duration of bolt

bolt healer shock dps

[mild thunder]

extra insane for turbo since it's so light on stuns

can shockwave be parried/dodged? i imagine it can

[muted surge]

Are the other stuns target capped? Like the lock or monk one

[elfin surge]

no

u can shockwave a rogue in evasion

[warped warren]

is arms good? @elfin surge

[elfin surge]

pretty sure the new rogue talent lets them cloak out of our disarm? am i wrong? ik @fickle forge mains rogue, he would know.

[elfin surge]

we are doomed its over ggs

[warped warren]

real, largish rogue main since vanilla

[warped warren]

ok so im not making a comeback gg

[mild thunder]

basedddd

[mild thunder]

it should remove cs and spear as well

not that spear isnt already a buggy mess, but removing cs is pretty cringe

[elfin surge]

o god

[warped warren]

remove cs? naaaa aint no way

[elfin surge]

it removes all our burst right

roar too

[mild thunder]

ye, it'll remove everything

[warped warren]

ait im not playing for sure

[elfin surge]

bruh

[muted surge]

So cloak is an immunity now?

Why does every class get one

[elfin surge]

its literally

bop

[mild thunder]

bop on a 2min CD

[elfin surge]

[mild thunder]

if we run with a magical they cant really take the talent tho

[muted surge]

Is the talent choose between phys and magic?

[mild thunder]

yea it removes the anti-magic side of cloak

[elfin surge]

im a turbo main now

[mild thunder]

actually, im not sure it does

[muted surge]

Ah then it’s not too bad

Just fucks us shard

[mild thunder]

it was on ptr, but the way it's worded now seems like it does both

[muted surge]

If it does both it’s retarded

[mild thunder]

at least we can overpower them through it

but yea i legit dont know how we kill sub rogues now... less burst means it's harder to kill with low uptime + cloak immunity + new distract teleport

it'll remove sharpen and our normal ms as well

dude wtf is this

[magic wing]

Oh man

Pvp looks to be ass

Less burst, more immunities just what we need

[mild thunder]

less burst is almost definitely a good thing tbh

being randomly globaled is stupido

[magic wing]

10 min dampen games

[magic wing]

Oh yeah true

[mild thunder]

it'll probably be 3-5, maybe 4-6 minute games

which is perfect imo

[magic wing]

Ret 2 sec burst is too much

[mild thunder]

it's not just ret burst that's too much - arms, enh, ww, ret, fdk, evo, dh, fmage, ele etc.

[elfin surge]

cant judge the pace of the season using last season gear

[mild thunder]

^

[fickle forge]

[This comment is only viewable by warrior mains]

[mild thunder]

@elfin surge activating his second braincell

[elfin surge]

[onyx sonnet]

What do I do for rep once I've done the dailies and the digs?

[spice hornet]

90% of this discord can’t see this comment

[dark sparrow]

will there be new bloody token/trophy of strife gear in s2?

[onyx sonnet]

Yes

It's called ermmm

Idk but the answer is yes

[dark sparrow]

actually dumb question cause i already have 2 of the wpvp gear

[onyx sonnet]

😬💀

[craggy geyser]

LMAO

[dark sparrow]

what i wanted to ask was if there is a quest already to earn those trophies of strife?

[onyx sonnet]

I can't see one

I think our proper opportunity to gear isn't till.next week

[dark sparrow]

ye dont see one either at normal location but maybe they moved the npc or smth

[onyx sonnet]

That's why the Honor and conq gear is still s1

[dark sparrow]

true but wpvp already higher than s1 conq gear

in eu right now, both wpvp quest give a piece each

which is nice

[onyx sonnet]

Yeah I honestly expected to log on and have my conq reset etc

And have new gear at vendors. Looks like they half arsed it.

I'm 800 loam rep /1500 now I have no idea what I'm supposed to be doing

[radiant nest]

people are spamming wpvp areas for bloody tokens

idk that i have the level of degen needed to kill 3000 people

for a full gear set lol

[muted surge]

Isn’t that the same as honor gear

Until you upgrade it with the strife trophy

[radiant nest]

i think it can be upgraded with trophies of strife starting next week

[muted surge]

Yea so you don’t need full set

[radiant nest]

but like no point killing yourself grinding it now

[muted surge]

Just 1 item

[radiant nest]

which is why im surprised at the number of groups in lfg

farming bloody token

when on tuesday you can just buy a full honor set

[muted surge]

People got nothing else todo I guess

[craggy geyser]

So honor gear is better at the start right

Not worth farming BT? I haven’t even messed with it. It’s a disaster

[radiant nest]

just do your pvp wqs if you want

[craggy geyser]

Is the crafted gear available?

nvm it is for 49k gold a pop LMAO

[hot solstice]

does anyone feel destro damage is too much?

[stark eagle]

it is if you leave them to just cast off

[lean burrow]

blizz dev maining rogue got tired of spear

[radiant nest]

yes

win a skirmish to get a vicious contenders strongbox

it has a quest item that gives you 2 trophies that can upgrade slots up to 450 in arena/bgs

one is for head/shoulder/chest/pants, other is for minor items

[craggy geyser]

i got the two trophy's if thats what u mean

[radiant nest]

yeah

you justh ave to do the campaign

to get the spark of shadowflame

we can only make 1 crafted piece right now

to 450 ilvl

need to wait 2 weeks for the next spark

[zinc willow]

hey yall, im wondering if there is a certain build that would suite me better than the one i currently have. I'm using the ss+roar build. Any advice appreciated, ty. https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/moon-guard/grunetin

[elfin surge]

we are currently experimenting with shockwave.

[zinc willow]

interesting!

[worthy fern]

@elfin surge link shockwave build

[craggy geyser]

its pineed

[teal hedge]

16 minute bg queue???

[radiant nest]

took me 18 mins to get into a southshore brawl

[teal hedge]

Wait, have da builds already been updated?

[spice hornet]

I have turned to the dark side and have been playing double destro

[elfin surge]

i was fucking around with this

there might be a better build tho

[craggy geyser]

its pinned here whats being tested or w.e

[zinc willow]

i look forward to playing around with it.

[worthy fern]

@elfin surge the left shockwave upgrade seems nice

Huge range and cd reduction

Maybe vs demo bm dk etc

[elfin surge]

give up what tho

[mild thunder]

it's very nice, but super expensive

[elfin surge]

warlords?

[worthy fern]

5 percent dam?

[teal hedge]

I finna learn dis buiöd

[elfin surge]

thats not worth lol

[worthy fern]

As needed

[teal hedge]

Ohj my god

[mild thunder]

imo it's only worth going for the shockwave CDR if you're running spear

[teal hedge]

It doesn't have immunity

I will pass

[mild thunder]

elysian can be dropped

[teal hedge]

away

[worthy fern]

Ye nothing else can be dropped

[teal hedge]

That is so rough

I'll try it out though

We doin it raw

[worthy fern]

@mild thunder what’s your thought process on using with spear

[mild thunder]

wdym?

[worthy fern]

Why do you say it’s worth if using spear

[mild thunder]

because EM is kinda mid

[teal hedge]

So wait, is this build centred more on AOE?

[worthy fern]

Ah so just cause you have a free point

[mild thunder]

12.5% crit dmg is a joke

[worthy fern]

Gotcha

[mild thunder]

the +2s on spear is nice, but id rather -15s on spear in that scenario

but spear kinda mid in general now

[elfin surge]

spear is dead man

[mild thunder]

^

[elfin surge]

roar and sks is better

than spear

[teal hedge]

Okay okay okay fellas time to revise my action bar

[worthy fern]

What’s the damage like with sonic boom?

[teal hedge]

I had long feared this day

[mild thunder]

cant even take spear into rogues anymore

[elfin surge]

[worthy fern]

350 percent increase on nothing

[teal hedge]

Which binds do I even get

[mild thunder]

sonic is ass

[elfin surge]

bad

[zinc willow]

bro thats about what mine look like rofl

[mild thunder]

with everything shockwave does like

20k

[worthy fern]

Why does it even exist

[elfin surge]

shockwave does less dam than hamstring

[worthy fern]

Dead talent

[teal hedge]

So we usin it or not?

[elfin surge]

bolt nerfed shockwave buffed

only reason we are playing it now

[mild thunder]

buffing shockwave was actually wild

[teal hedge]

Aight I get it

[mild thunder]

idk why they did it

[elfin surge]

ye its weird

but whatev

[mild thunder]

i aint complaining

[teal hedge]

So maybe I place shockwave on CTRL + 3 and stun on 3?

Just gotta find a better jump bind

[zinc willow]

im diggin this spell reflection x2

i hope i make some casters eat their...well their casts.

[mild thunder]

rebound would be nice to protect against SR getting eaten by stupid pet shit

but the 10s CD increase makes it aids

[worthy fern]

Warbringer is dead?

[zinc willow]

got nerfed by like 65%?

[elfin surge]

shockwave gunna be lit for the comp i play. Disc turbo had 1 stun

[elfin surge]

kinda

i like it vs some stuff

for the root

[teal hedge]

Should I have a good key for skullsplitter?

[worthy fern]

Double static field plus shockwave

[teal hedge]

How often do I be slingin dat mf skil

[worthy fern]

No one’s getting away

[craggy geyser]

are u guys all talking about the first build pinned rn?

[mild thunder]

shockwave > double cap totem so you can insta DR the entire team

[elfin surge]

i was told u cant move static totem anymore

is that true

[mild thunder]

it's super iffy

[teal hedge]

I gotta sack my mount bind

[mild thunder]

sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt

[teal hedge]

This shit so not cool

[mild thunder]

i got told that you couldnt, but then an ele did it to me the other day

so idk

[teal hedge]

New setup

But what's da opener wit da new build?

It's da funny stomp + smash + troar + bs?

[mild thunder]

charge > slam > slam > slam

[teal hedge]

*sk

[mild thunder]

[teal hedge]

What is this