pvp

[fresh valve]

it comes off as pathetic more than funny tho tbh

[vivid pumice]

i was like man its weird how I won all 3 rounds i played with the other healer who didn't let anyone die in opener

[unique fox]

Solo shuffle has inflated these shit bags egos

2800xp they say

I dont think so Tim

[fresh valve]

worse than the fake multi-glads

[stark reef]

Me, @mild thunder & @spice hornet (he’s the one without the beard because he’s hardstuck 2100)

[fresh valve]

gay

[stark reef]

Agreed, 2100 is not a good look.

[fresh valve]

talkin bout all 3 of u

foo

[tawny brook]

Do I want GladiusEX or Gladius - Dragonflight

GladiusEX has been more recently updated

[sage raptor]

neither. Use your eyes like a man

[tawny brook]

Do I need omnibar even with SArena?

I just want to know when some pops defensives so I can change target

[unique fox]

I like gladiusEX myself

use it for team mate frames too

and omnibar for offensive CDs

[mild thunder]

homeboy, you need to get a life

[vapid tartan]

What do you do as the warr? Run left around pillar or leap to heal?

[sharp meteor]

Why is the warrior in another continent

[unique fox]

What do you mean? You just keep running at the mage

No retreat no surrender

[woeful solstice]

ah fuck

sorry boss

its been a rough season

there is a lot of desperation ques going on rn easy to get dragged down

i hope s2 is better i genuinely hate this game after playing s1

started stressing over it, not good

was great until 10.0.7

[vapid tartan]

brain got cc

[sharp meteor]

ya they just needed to nerf assa a bit

not buff ret to demigod tier

[unique fox]

Yeah just seems like we get lots of people that are just fucking around and mashing buttons or rerollers with "glad xp" (its shadowlands s1/s2 so meaningless)

[fresh valve]

p sure he said he's married

shuffle comes 1st tho

[bright stream]

hpals his healer? hpals in the wrong position/on wrong pillar.

can't play the 40yard pillar with melee vs mage/caster

very classic healer mistake

[lean burrow]

is it possible to lower mmr for shuffle?

can I just leave the next game and eat -150 mmr?

you can use it and go anywhere

[quick carbon]

skullsplitter needs to be nerfed boys

I’m tired of feeling like I’m forced into using it cuz it’s so broken

[tawny brook]

On casters too or only against plate people

[lethal sandal]

anyone have any predictions how fury will be coming 10.1? i only really like fury and cant enjoy arms, but i fear that fury will be dog tier next season. it took me 1100 rounds to reach 1800 and i fear i will not reach it next season on solo shuffle cause we have not gotten any meaningful changes so far

[stark reef]

I would be surprised if leaving lowers mmr.

In other games it does not

So you’d lose the rating but still play the same lobbies and just gain points back much faster unless you actually go on a loss streak.

Good time to optimize key-binds/UI, try new builds, different stat-distribution or just do some limit testing

Maybe you’ve been working on bladestorming certain CDs like kidney or disarm. Just brain-afk the match and only try to get that one thing right as many times as you can

[woeful solstice]

just make a new warrior

send them conq boxes

boom, low mmr

[stark reef]

Yeah, but tryharding in low mmr is kind of pointless unless you’re a YouTuber

[clever fern]

Guys, 10.1 we'll use mastery build instead of crit ?

[muted surge]

No

[clever fern]

Even with the crit nerfs ? Because with more mastery, SKS would do more dmg , no ?

[unique fox]

I think we'll still be blasting with SKS until Blizz nerfs it again

also our 4 piece bonus goes off deep wounds crits

[lean burrow]

shuffle popping when you go piss is actually true

I just finished shuffle, started queue again and went to bathroom

and it popped

[clever fern]

It was a shuffle against a demo lock, frost mage and BM hunter, you didn't lose anything

[lean burrow]

i'd be happy to get 0-6 for easier games

I'm on 2.7k

I just want legend fast

[clever fern]

How much you still need ?

[lean burrow]

45 more wins

[unique fox]

I ought to grind out Legend but shuffle lmao

100 games of torture

[lean burrow]

do you happen to play ret in 3s?

[unique fox]

Only warrior all the time

[lean burrow]

i need a ret

[unique fox]

Me too man

I have one but I never bothered to play it, didnt want to sell out

Been slogging through the lfg rets for days

[lean burrow]

i got only honor geared ret

who I got 1.8k on in rework day and never played again

[vapid tartan]

Is double rending in sks opener worth the gcd or should I just send it at 17 secs

[lean burrow]

pressing overpower is probably more damage than second rend

[vapid tartan]

If my napkin math is correct 17-23 rend is only about 7k more damage

Seems like overpower the move u right

[unique fox]

6 seconds is like just under 3 ticks

but i find i get fucked a lot if i get greedy and go for the second one

[vapid tartan]

Is it ever worth to take shattering against Ret? Feel like wrecking throw is nice for shield of vengeance and with a ton of priests shouldn’t be too hard for a dispel

[spice hornet]

No one past 1400 rating is gonna let you get a shatter off

[vapid tartan]

Yeah that’s what I was thinking

Worth dropping warbreaker for demolition against ret/demo?

[indigo barn]

You don't sweep your rend?

[sage raptor]

I get shatters. Wtf are yall on? Lol

[vapid tartan]

I thought sweeping rend only takes it from 17-20? Not to the full 23

[unique fox]

It basically one shots dark pact with demolition, its pretty nice

they play a bit over confident thinking they can rely on it and then you split their skulls

[indigo barn]

I think you're getting confused with pandemic buff refreshing?

If you hit the target twice with most dots, it adds to its duration, up to maximum of 150% of it's duration

Dunno if that works with rend tho

[vapid tartan]

It does default is 17secs double is 23

[unique fox]

I'm still testing vs ret but I feel like being able to insta delete his shield of vengeance from range is pretty nice

And you'll probably get bubble sooner

[indigo barn]

So 2 extra ticks

Not bad

[vapid tartan]

From testing on dummy it’s only 6-7k damage increase from sks

Seems like another overpower is better

[unique fox]

10k average per tick on dummy

[vapid tartan]

Must have more haste than me, toon I’m running it on at 16%

[indigo barn]

While OP might do more overall, you might fish for more CDs with a larger SKS

I think it's every 20% haste is one extra ticks for rend and DW

And an extra global in CS

Get PI and enh BL for 2 extra ticks

[unique fox]

The PI Dark Arch skullsplitter is a sight to behold

[indigo barn]

It actually is

[sharp meteor]

feels weird to go "maybe kill?" and smash splitter somebody from half health with no other cds on the map

[vapid tartan]

first is a 22sec sks second is 17

[unique fox]

Remember these days boys

They wont last

[vapid tartan]

looks like my napkin math was wrong lol

[sharp meteor]

also finally get a taste of retwarr and mmr goes up by 300 maybe the game isn't so bad after all

[vapid tartan]

i guess in opener if theres two targets for the overpower might be worth to do it at 17

[quick carbon]

arms makes ur pp grow

[fresh valve]

arms is for nerds

[clever fern]

I never understood how sks works. You Doble rend the target then immediately use sks ?

[quick carbon]

u colossus smash

refresh rend if needded

[fresh valve]

im fine with using arms for pvp tho

[quick carbon]

sks

sharpen

win

[clever fern]

Ah, so I'm doing it right

Thought that I needed to do something else to get higher dmg

[indigo barn]

Always make sure to have mortal wounds up before doing your sks combo

I see many people who go right into smash rend sks

And the person being topped up instantly

Oh and get the sharpened ms right after you sks

The damage sticks hard in SS

[sharp meteor]

ya can force a button with every smash/bolt/sharp

often multiple

[clever fern]

So it would be rend>ms>CS>roar>avatar>sks>sharpen?

[sharp meteor]

uh i feel like u wanna re-rend, cs, avatar into sks

with wounds up

[quick carbon]

its actuually the most

disgusting set of damage globals

in the game

[sharp meteor]

the super spectacular thing is that it sweeps

so you can just double kill a retwarr from like 40% health

[unique fox]

im gonna try a roar spear hybrid build playing with dev evoker

should be good

[woeful solstice]

im at 89/100

might not even do it

boring fucking bracket

[limber relic]

I globaled a fw+warr in 1 sks

They just dissapeared

Was funny af

[sharp meteor]

queued into a fellow playing shockwave the other day

that was a sight to behold

[unique fox]

its gonna farm

[sharp meteor]

ya one man stun machine

[peak saddle]

only 6 more hours until i can go back and wait 30-40 min in que

[indigo barn]

Que some league ranked in preparation

[peak saddle]

played league in the past 10 days while i was banned

actually after 3-4 days i tried TFT and got hooked

this shit is fire

[vapid tartan]

do you still run sks in a no plate lobby?

Against some like like mage hunter where it might be harder to get the uptime

[limber relic]

Yeah but im not sure its great

Stil testing it out

[vapid tartan]

Found myself swapping between em based on kill target but I’m 2.1k so prolly not playing it optimally

[limber relic]

Ah u talking about solo shuffle? I was talking about standard 3s

[vapid tartan]

ohh yeah lol shuffle

[unique fox]

its actually pretty nice since you dont need to connect for long to do big dam

[limber relic]

Idk about ss ngl. I stopped playing it after i got 3k

[vapid tartan]

Damn you’re a god

[limber relic]

But id say sks is better. Esp since u dont have uptime

[indigo barn]

Don't run it into demo

[vapid tartan]

Isn’t that like top 0.1%

[limber relic]

3k is ez tho

[indigo barn]

They just shield and laugh

[unique fox]

Insta delete with wrecking throw

[vapid tartan]

u don’t run sks into demo?

[limber relic]

Top 90 in arms last time i checked

Sks into rsham is bad tho. Earthen messes u up bad

[indigo barn]

If the demo has a brain, they will SB portal away every time

[limber relic]

Damn i was top 20 in fury ss. Not im r80

Feelsbadman

[tawny elm]

whats your keybind for spear?

[lean burrow]

T

[indigo barn]

https://tenor.com/view/keyboard-hyperx-rgb-hyperx-family-hyperx-gaming-gif-17743649

[limber relic]

Who even uses spear anymore

[lean burrow]

what's SB

[indigo barn]

People who just watched pikas warrior guide

[indigo barn]

Soul burn

Breaks roots and slows and gives a giga sprint

[lean burrow]

wouldn't you stun wb sks anyway?

how does it help against sks

[limber relic]

Hm. I need 350 cr for r1 title in ss.

Should i try 🤔

Im scared of breaking my monitor cuz of ss ngl

[idle falcon]

no balls

[indigo barn]

Just do it

[idle falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/just-do-it-shia-la-beouf-do-it-gif-4531935

[limber relic]

I afraid of losing my sanity

[indigo barn]

Most teammates don't, but maybe I should

[idle falcon]

i reached 1800 after climbing to 1750 and down again for 3 weeks

[indigo barn]

Look, if you break your monitor, just sell feet pics

PvP discord will buy them

Trust

[idle falcon]

👀

[limber relic]

Ill have 2 buy new one every game

[idle falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/gambare-gambare-nagatoro-gif-26448300

[indigo barn]

Also crimson legend is a sick title

[tawny elm]

so spear is bad even vs mages?

[idle falcon]

spear is good if you hit it

otherwise not really

[tawny elm]

i usually dont

[vapid tartan]

I think non sks roar is better

[limber relic]

Than what

Spear is bad overall

[vapid tartan]

Than spear into mage

[limber relic]

2 ez to counter

[prime pendant]

guys guess what

we did it

[limber relic]

Gz!

[prime pendant]

took me a full day of grinding from 0-1800 but worth

[vapid tartan]

Grats

[nimble prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUO5zZpTf9s

[limber relic]

Just 600 more for elite

Gogogo

[prime pendant]

what comes with that

[vapid tartan]

That sexy axe

[prime pendant]

[prime pendant]

wait what axe?

I'm unaware

[limber relic]

Elite axe mog

[vapid tartan]

Red recolor of raz axe

Incarnate sky splitter

[prime pendant]

oh shit

damn that's a lot of rank tho

600

[vapid tartan]

Duelist isn’t that much harder for the wep enchant

[prime pendant]

what rnak is dulist

duelist

[vapid tartan]

2.1

[prime pendant]

hmm might do that

do you know the name of the enchant?

[vapid tartan]

Primal storm I think

[prime pendant]

wait how do you ge the primal fire one?

that shit is fire

[vapid tartan]

Auction house

[prime pendant]

you can't use it

you have to have enchanting at 50

:/

[prime pendant]

didn't see any called primal storm

[pliant hare]

What are generally squishy classes? Haven't PVP'd at all and just wanna get a quick 1800

I thought DH's were squishy but I just verused one and jesus he was perma blur it felt like

[limber relic]

As a warr? Rogues

Locks

[vapid tartan]

Just checked my mogs and it’s listed as primal storm

[prime pendant]

hmm ok I'll have to type it then

[tawny elm]

what do you think could be done in order to decrease queue times?

[proven tiger]

You have to buy the illusion, not the enchant recipe itself. Anyone can use the illusion.

[tawny brook]

How often should I be using slam or whirlwind as fury

[tawny elm]

this is so frustrating. climbed relatively fast and easy to 1793 and now im back at 1468

wtf happened?

[sage raptor]

Slam never, whirlwind often.

[elfin surge]

3-3 +68

[vapid tartan]

Did it bois

[elfin surge]

[idle falcon]

wait never slam?

i use it when i have no other buttons to press

WW gives no rage in annigalator build

better press slam no?

[idle falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kiss-cute-cat-or-wtv-gif-22093391

Also, new build for season 2 fury WITH set piece?

I know you aren't supposed to spam BT anymore

Save it for big burst

[sage raptor]

as fury

[idle falcon]

Yeah

With annihalettor build

It gives 10 rage

And deals xtra dmg

[sage raptor]

he never said which build

[idle falcon]

Oh

Anyways

[sage raptor]

L on his part

[idle falcon]

New build for season 2?

Do we go for the hybrid one?

i had a dream i one-shot a goblin warlock with Sks

wet dream*

I think in my dream when i looked in dmg meter Sks dealt 700k dmg alone?

[bright stream]

realtalk ship has sailed my friend

who you gonna take that mmr/cr from?

[elfin surge]

Splitting skulls

[idle falcon]

Hey guys

Nobody answered my Fury warrior inquiry

;-;

The one about new pvp build

[limber relic]

What do u mean

[bright stream]

if you're trying to climb to rank one, you need a pool of active players at the same and higher mmr/cr than you, so that you can 'take' their mmr/cr when you win games

because its the weekend of the final week, the vast majority of high rated players are not playing their mains, because they don't want to lose their mmr

[limber relic]

Ur saying no one is playing ss at that rating rn?

[bright stream]

there will be some, but very few

so you'll have to have a much higher winrate than a few weeks ago

[limber relic]

Eh i wasnt planning on doing it anyways

[elfin surge]

nobody cares about solo r1

[bright stream]

it's pretty cool for dads with no friends that play wow anymore

[elfin surge]

dads with no friends deserve nothing

[bright stream]

[teal hedge]

Man, dads have da realest lore

One day my daf just casually told me he managed to dodge being drafted despite having the chance to have a comfortable position with high pay.

[limber relic]

Im stil waiting on my paypal transaction

[raven hound]

What’s the r1 cutoff for PvP? .1% like M+?

Not that I’d ever fucking get it but I’m just curious LOL

[silent river]

0.1

[raven hound]

Cool! Tyty

[spice hornet]

@elfin surge has enough IQ to play skullsplitter build?

[elfin surge]

kay

[wheat jay]

He doesn't

[spice hornet]

[fresh valve]

he's just a gamer bro

[spice hornet]

[elfin surge]

end of season time to win

[woeful solstice]

fun fact i beat @elfin surge the other day on ladder he just doesnt remember me

he kept running in circles trying to press skullsplitter and emoting "Mud moans suggestively"

[unique fox]

Mud ever try playing with a devoker?

[elfin surge]

real

[elfin surge]

no im not a cringe frost dk

[clever fern]

now we just need more 50% nerfs and we good

[unique fox]

@elfin surge Instead you're a cringe skullsplitter war

[elfin surge]

sks dn

[unique fox]

im gonna try it with a spear/roar build, drop warlords and two hand specialization, bet it will clap

[elfin surge]

nope its trash

[unique fox]

as long as the devoker melts someone i dont need to do damage

[vapid tartan]

So tier 4set sounds pretty useless outside of melee cleave where you can sks and proc instantly?

It’ll be a 5% ms buff on pvp only right

Is the aoe also cut in half?

[quick carbon]

sks is so cheese but why wouldnt u use it

its the most broken shit in the game

[iron fractal]

Does the Qalashi wingshredder actually work?

Every time I try to use it I get a "Invalid target" error.

[last orbit]

What is the tldr on arms for next patch?

[vapid tartan]

If I’ve just used smash or other offensives and get feared, when is ut worth it pop berserkers rage and keep pressure? Not sure if it’s more valuable to save it to rage+intervene when healer in cc

[quick carbon]

just kick fear

[unique fox]

It's kinda funny because its been this broken all season but war mains were too small brained to figure it out till the last 2 weeks

[stark reef]

Nobody tries/thinks in todays games

You copy the ladder

Or your favorite streamer

Or the discord pins

Or your favorite YouTuber

And then you pay for a carry and call it a day

🤝

[scarlet flame]

they nerfed them in pvp now?

[scarlet flame]

games today aren't like games 20 years ago, the best build is usually the best build for a reason, and non meta garbage is usually garbage for a reason

[stark reef]

🤣

Right.

[unique fox]

Wow players are the least intelligent people on the entire planet

Not sure why you'd blindly listen to them

But i get waht you're saying

[scarlet flame]

well would you take a build from someone whos 1600 with 2000 games played or 2800 with 2000 games

[stark reef]

It's not just wow - it's the gaming culture @unique fox

[scarlet flame]

take an arpg for example, like diablo 3 or poe

do you copy a build that clears 150 GR in 8 minutes, or one that can't do 100 in 25 minutes

shit is meta or good for a reason

i dont see anyone playing non meta shockwave warrior builds

because its dogshit

you changing 3 points on the meta builds isn't some big brain idea

[runic wharf]

im old enough to remember going to ur local thrift shop and lookin for the gaming magazines that gave u the best tips n tricks for the game ur playing

[stark reef]

Meta does not equal fun. Once you realize that absolutely nobody cares about your ingame achievements and you start focusing on enjoying your game-time you'll understand why people play off-meta.

And sometimes discover some great stuff in the process.

[runic wharf]

feel like its not a new age thing

[scarlet flame]

if you like losing with off meta thats on you, not saying its right or wrong

but to say people are not smart for playing what is winning or is good is dumb as fuck

[unique fox]

Meta slaves smh my head

[scarlet flame]

playing a comp game to lose makes no sense to me, so to me you're not smart

[stark reef]

Do you get paid to win?

[scarlet flame]

why waste your time losing

[unique fox]

We're playing wow in 2023, none of us are smart

[scarlet flame]

you pay to lose

[stark reef]

Well you waste your time winning, to

[scarlet flame]

no, im winning

[stark reef]

Ok, and then what?

You print the scoreboard and frame it?

[scarlet flame]

happy chemicals in the brain

[stark reef]

There are plenty of sources for that. What if you just play to pass the time?

[scarlet flame]

you could do anything to pass time

why play a comp game to pass time

[unique fox]

I play to game with my IRL homie

[scarlet flame]

what is the goal

[runic wharf]

the payment is the friends u make along the way from winning

[stark reef]

I'll be honest, i couldn't care less if I win at 1.8k or 1.2k or 2.4k.

Doesn't feel much different to me.

[scarlet flame]

okay but you're saying the people who want to win and play actually good builds are stupid

[stark reef]

I never said they're stupid

What?

[scarlet flame]

this right here is saying nobody thinks and just pays to get whatever they want

[stark reef]

But that doesn't mean they're stupid

[scarlet flame]

right thats what you meant

[stark reef]

Wtf are you smoking mate?

[unique fox]

I dont think that's what he meant

[scarlet flame]

the people shitting on people who follow the meta never say they are smart

[stark reef]

How can you tell me what I think?

Are you ok>

[scarlet flame]

yeah im fine

[stark reef]

What am I thinking now?

[scarlet flame]

i dont care

[stark reef]

hehexd

[scarlet flame]

people who swear by off meta and act like they're better for doing it are what i care about

[stark reef]

i dont care

[scarlet flame]

are you ok?

hehexd

[stark reef]

yeah im fine

[unique fox]

At the end of the day we're all playing the same dead and shitty game so just play whatever you think is fun

[runic wharf]

is skullsplitter fun

[unique fox]

Yes

[stark reef]

Tanda is waiting on the call from Golden Guardians, he's about to get discovered

[scarlet flame]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[runic wharf]

are there any good shockwave builds

[stark reef]

Just 200 more rating bro and they'll call.

[scarlet flame]

no i haven't played pvp since ret got buffed

[stark reef]

So you don't even play the game and just talk shit?

I can respect that.

[scarlet flame]

yeah now i do

[stark reef]

Ez, just like @mild thunder

[quick carbon]

alot of ppl haave been using it all ssn

[woeful solstice]

I tried it early on and loved it tbh but I am a meta slave

[prime pendant]

how do you buy the illusion?

I litearlly know nothing about illusions

[prime pendant]

oh I see now

nvm

[hot solstice]

do they bring +50% extra exp 10.1?

[clever fern]

only on diablo anniversary

[zinc willow]

Hey yall. I am struggling at 1100-1300 in solo shuffle. Been stuck here for about a week. I'm new to competitive pvp and am learning allot, but I was curious if yall had any recommended guides or advice? Everybody tells me warriors are so op and easy but its just not easy for me..

[vapid tartan]

i think first practice your rotation down

try the bleed build with no sks in pinned its pretty easy to use

[zinc willow]

im running a bleed build now with sks...heard sks is pretty good

[vapid tartan]

it is but its a bit harder to use

make sure youre saving sharpened blade for when someone's somewhat low, dont just throw it out on cd

make a stormbolt focus target macro

read a bit more about what youre big cds do, ie avatar also breaks roots, dbs stops disarms

[zinc willow]

thats good to know on sharpened blade because i literally have it macroed together with MS to go off right before my ms

[vapid tartan]

try to always keep people slowed and rended

yeah you dont want that

sharpened blade decreases healing to the target more than the usual ms effect

[woeful solstice]

Really make sure you have the basic warrior rotation stuff down. Know all of your abilities, be comfortable hitting them without staring at your action bars

Don't macro sharpen, it's bad practice

get the good habits in now

[vapid tartan]

also, dont just pop your spell reflect when youre getting low

try and notice when people are casting on you and pop it right before it goes off

[woeful solstice]

yeah i still use reflect poorly haha

[zinc willow]

i just use it when i notice a caster like a lock throwing chaos bolt on me

[woeful solstice]

yep good stuff

if you want to record some games and post them in #810664169140518947 I can take a look at them

[zinc willow]

i was thinking on doing that as well, however i have to look at how to record. never did that before.

[woeful solstice]

im no pro but ive got easily 10k+ arena matches under my belt

[vapid tartan]

also dont use your fear on cd, try fearing the enemy healer when you think you can get a kill, or if your team is getting shredded you can the enemy dps

[zinc willow]

oh very nice. i just started competitive last month..

[woeful solstice]

OBS or Nvidia geforce experience

[vapid tartan]

also consider disarm against melee

[woeful solstice]

for recording

[vapid tartan]

its a real easy way to get trinket at lower mmr

also get some basic addons, like gladius

theres prolly some youtube vids that can reccomend all the ones u need

[zinc willow]

ive ben watching some of bajheeras stuff

[vapid tartan]

oh yeah

try and keep track of your healer at all times

be careful of charging someone or leaping out of site

if youre getting fucked up dont be afraid to leap behind pillar with your healer for a bit

i still do that ngl

[woeful solstice]

ya Gladius/sArena/GladiusEX(can use this and ditch omnibar as well), weakauras, omnicd to track allies, etc

[zinc willow]

thanks for all the advice and help. have allot to do lol

[woeful solstice]

definitely record some games and get them posted asap

we can iron out your noob mistakes early

also something that helps with recording games is an addon called TrufiGCD

it shows your sequence of abilities pressed

[zinc willow]

ill do that sometime today for sure! just gotta play around with geforce exp

[woeful solstice]

just remove all the bars except the personal one and we can see what you're pressing

[zinc willow]

ok

[quiet lily]

i want to like arms pvp but it just feels so clunky to me 😦

fury is so nice but doesnt look like anyone plays it?

[vapid tartan]

how so?

what % haste you got

[quiet lily]

shit

like 12%

[woeful solstice]

get a lil more haste

removes a lot of clunk

its a big preference thing imo i ran more crit for most of the season

[quiet lily]

yeah could help, i think my problem right now is its like 11 damn buttons off the rip

and sks just feels weird to through in

throw

[vapid tartan]

yeah it feels smooth at 17+

more haste can also help with sks

more bleeds and faster gcd

[prime pendant]

I just hit 1800 as fury

[vapid tartan]

grats

[prime pendant]

plenty of 3k+ fury players

[quiet lily]

maybe just will stick with fury then

[vapid tartan]

must be fun to play into melee cleaves lol

[quiet lily]

i love how it plays

[quiet lily]

and this

[hot solstice]

like how am I supposed to play this game now?

[copper hare]

yeah the cap is pretty pathetic ngl

[vapid tartan]

just type back and tilt them

[hot solstice]

Like, played 2c on 2100 mmr with rdruid vs rsham+boomie...dude asks why I dont play unhinged(well why would I simply need it If i dont have to cleave and have 100% uptime on boomie+fatality finished that game) meanwhile asked him why he stays pillar heal bot and do 0 clones vs boomie that cant stop stun clone combo....guess what comes next

[woeful solstice]

unhinged is good even single target bro

[hot solstice]

I prefered fatality in that situation

[woeful solstice]

i love getting a single target bladestorm and both mortals in it crit

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/884236740875935764/997438021546807296/twerkingduck_014.gif

[hot solstice]

I mostly go unhinged vs disarms and elusive targets

[stark reef]

Fury is great, biggest issue really is no proper healing reduction

Once you swap it’s pretty much over

For your healing reduction

But it’s absolutely playable

[dark sparrow]

So lads what’s looking like our best comp is gonna be next patch so I can start locking in my team already and not be stuck in lfg

[vapid tartan]

i dont even take bs on my gnome

[stark reef]

The no bs gamer-build

[vapid tartan]

jokes

[stark reef]

I’m not joking. It’s a gamer build.

[woeful solstice]

nobody knows yet

[vapid tartan]

i unironically want to see how far i can get with the meme build

[stark reef]

It’s more of a lobby thing

[hot solstice]

turbo is promising

[stark reef]

Not a ranking thing

[unique fox]

Gonna be Ret War

[vapid tartan]

just equip a shield and 1h

[woeful solstice]

im prob going gnome

next patch

[hot solstice]

well we won that game

[vapid tartan]

yeah but did you have a cool shield

[woeful solstice]

will say this

s2 prob a caster season

[hot solstice]

Boromir had cool shield...didnt helped

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-lotr-boromir-sean-bean-gif-13516196

[vapid tartan]

whos boromir

[woeful solstice]

F

[vapid tartan]

anything in specific to deal with

[woeful solstice]

out the gate if i had to guess....war/lock/prevoker gonna be good

[vapid tartan]

ive played human gnome orc and did so far

[woeful solstice]

or mw monk

[hot solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-book-throw-shotgun-crusader-gif-17800978

[vapid tartan]

gnome and orc feel the nicest

imo

[woeful solstice]

ya gnome is insane

i like di dwarf a lot too

but hate that racial incurs 30s trinket cd

[vapid tartan]

yeah real nice against rogues or feral

[woeful solstice]

both which fell off

[hot solstice]

laughs in human

[woeful solstice]

di dwarf lost a lot of juice midseason

[vapid tartan]

are rogues coming back s2?

[woeful solstice]

idk

with cc changes it actually looks even worse for rogue

[vapid tartan]

human is so much fun with double trinket

just hate those disarms man

[woeful solstice]

its all theoryguessing though

but wiz meta seems likely

[vapid tartan]

guess u can run double bs to deal with that

[woeful solstice]

good for warrior

[hot solstice]

with 30 sec colosus disarms r not that bad...besides u can always bs/banner

[dark sparrow]

Yea been levelling my gnome warr in the morning while q’ing on the did warr after and the little man just hit 60

[vapid tartan]

wont it be harder for us to deal with casters? since we wont be able to crit them that easily?

or as easily

[woeful solstice]

little man

[vapid tartan]

hey man its my first season idk how this theory shit works

[dark sparrow]

Mostly cause they get precog baseline and cc is shorter so harder to lock them down

So I can see turbo working pretty well and just w key someone down

[vapid tartan]

oh hes that guy from the meme

[hot solstice]

3 sec shockwave makes turbo even better

[vapid tartan]

i googled it

[hot solstice]

should watch film too

legendary

[vapid tartan]

I’ve never read lord of rings

Heard it’s good

I don’t think I’ve read an actual book since high school

What do u think of Tauren shockwave

[woeful solstice]

book is goated

movies are aight

[vapid tartan]

Stam racial and stam talent

How much bonus stam does max level Tauren racial give

[dark sparrow]

Idk how long the stun is from Tauren on new patch but I can’t see it being worth the dr with shockwave

[vapid tartan]

Can you shield swap in shuffle

I wanna try it with just the stam talent maybe lol

Sounds fun

[zinc willow]

@woeful solstice so i recorded a full session of me doing solo shuffle. I recorded it with geforce experience. how can i make it small enough so i can share it with you and others so they can see my video and critique me?

[frail badge]

was spirit link totem of healing shaman always so fragile? i kill it with one overpower usually i think, i dont remember it being like that last i played in bfa pvp

[quaint ruin]

Ive been playing warrior for like a week this ssn after not playing it for a while, so just to see if I understand sks..

It expires all bleeds and deals all the dmg it would over time?
So basically you apply bleeds, smash, avatar, TR, sks and then reapply bleeds?

[tawny brook]

Sks after applying bleeds

It burns the damage remaining

You want them fresh

[lean burrow]

the problem is during your whole combo target won't have healing reduction

you need to mortal strike before burst

[quaint ruin]

Ye i left it out bcs its obvious the sharpen MS.

So in a perfect scenario its bleeds>sks>bleeds>smash>avatar>tr ?

[lean burrow]

sks after smash

with avatar

[stark reef]

Farming Arthritis

The damage needed to kill someone as fury is retarded

Onslaught Fury vs. Annihilator Fury - what does more sgl target damage?

I’d guess Onslaught but with less self-healing?

[wispy drum]

I am so tired of baby sitting tanks in RBGs.

I want to go O.

[woeful solstice]

idk i usually just record it in like 720p

[zinc willow]

@woeful solstice aight ill record another one tomorrow in 720. should i just record 1/6 matches or will it be small enough to be able to record all 6 matches?

[woeful solstice]

@stark reef that match lmao

[stark reef]

farmed by the arms war

[woeful solstice]

DH is actually

fucking trash

[stark reef]

ironic

[woeful solstice]

i just hit 70 earlier

[stark reef]

🤣

[woeful solstice]

trying to snag a quick elite set

its not gonna be quick

[stark reef]

I never know if I should run cleave or sgl target set-up

But that was a fun match, yeah

[indigo barn]

Doesn't odyns fury give you meat cleaver stacks?

[stark reef]

Fury cleave sometimes insane and sometimes just completely useless

You have to talent it

I don't have it talented in sgl target build

[indigo barn]

Oofiter

[stark reef]

I feel like meele cleave I actually have to run cleave but then no massacre

[fair forge]

should i buy all crit piece from honor gear?

[stark reef]

don't spend honor now right before the new season

unless i am mistaken

i have no clue

[fair forge]

ok

[sharp meteor]

ya

437 gear on tuesday from honor

or week after

[stark reef]

Perfect

[twilit totem]

doesnt honor turn into gold though when the new season starts

[prime pendant]

tbf pvp gear isnt good for pve

so keep honor probably is good

[twilit totem]

whos tryna pve?

[green anchor]

Anyone playing shuffle

[sharp meteor]

not very much

also u probs want 11k honor going into next seas

[fringe crypt]

Anyone got any advice on what to kick/how to counter demo?

[vapid tartan]

Wanted to learn a caster, what’s a decent choice that’s usually been historically strong and can help me learn about positioning more

I was thinking mage

[fresh valve]

destro lock > everything else

[tawny brook]

So I never use slam in fury, right?

[undone pumice]

no

slam bad

more dmg to leave an empty gcd and save rage for ramp

[muted surge]

The more you slam the more you win

[tawny brook]

But use whirlwind

[muted surge]

Whirlwind to cleave slam

[wispy drum]

[undone pumice]

rbg player

[wispy drum]

I like em.

[undone pumice]

you a rare breed is all, nothing against u

[wispy drum]

[fresh valve]

they shouldve invested more into rbgs than 3's tbh

3's are tedious asf

5's > 3's

[tawny brook]

1v1 arena

[fresh valve]

gay

[tawny brook]

How do I do 1v1 instant queue arena

[fresh valve]

play demo lock

[tawny crater]

What solo shuffle build are you guys running? Strictly talking about solo shuffle

[woeful solstice]

[tawny brook]

How good will survival be after they get disarm?

[torpid roost]

wait why the fuck are surv hunters getting a disarm

no blizzard, BAD

[unique fox]

Where is the weapon chain embellishment blizz?

There's no glove enchant, give it to us

[elfin surge]

boys

disc turbo

is disgusting

[muted surge]

Just bladestorm the disarm

Embellishment would be broken af

[unique fox]

Yeah true

[torpid roost]

reflect their traps, bladestorm their disarm, so you'll only be CCed 70% of the game

surv is awesome :)

[unique fox]

Going gnome for sure

[dark sparrow]

if only you streamed it so I would know how to play it and explain to my ape enhance what he should do

[tawny brook]

Do you go skullsplitter into everything or only against heavy armor

[distant dagger]

New to arenas is there a matchup spreadsheet available anywhere? I remember a streamer had one in SL but dont know anymore

[graceful ginkgo]

just wait, it has an aoe component as well

4s disarm that spreads to nearbies for 4s disarm on them, wont spread further

[elfin surge]

[tawny brook]

I keep wanting to level another class but warrior and hunter pretty much cover it

[thick reef]

Aeonaxx is up for me on a low level char can anyone come help me kill him

[lethal sandal]

is there a weakaura or an option i can trigger where i can see what spells i have reflected?

[lean burrow]

there's weakaura, but honestly it became distracting

there's no use for it

[lethal sandal]

can you link me the weakaura? i looked everywhere

[lean burrow]

https://wago.io/qvkQf9jSm

https://wago.io/VmO_GaXE_

one of those

[muted surge]

What info do you gain if you know what you reflected?

[worthy fern]

Momentary dopamine boost that will translate into victory

[lethal sandal]

thank you

[lethal sandal]

i will try and learn to predict to reflect important spells and to verify if i reflected an important or not important spell i would like to know which one i reflected

[muted surge]

I mean

If you have 3 casters, and you want to reflect the chaos bolt

But the other 2 spam dots

Idk

[lethal sandal]

i know what you mean, but i would rather still know what i reflected

[elfin surge]

My damage 😳😱😲

@mild thunder @fickle forge

[fickle forge]

Shut up bleed build enthusiast

[elfin surge]

[vapid tartan]

So with the melee precog effect in 10.1 will it not be a good idea to keep hamstring/piercing howl up unless it’s a kill window?

[spice hornet]

Any good warr streamers?

[muted surge]

dekel

[spice hornet]

Ty

He’s the best warr I think because wrath arena is harder than retail

[indigo barn]

80 is better than 70

[vapid tartan]

How does destro/aff pair with warr in 3s

[spice hornet]

both have better options to play with

ur lock gonnna get hard trained

[stark reef]

🤝

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBJn67Rj9O4&ab_channel=SauceyNoodle

[solemn delta]

How do I made Arms warrior miserable as a caster?

[teal hedge]

Just hit da gym for da first time in almost two years

[teal hedge]

Roots, slows etc

[solemn delta]

My only root can be killed in a single overpower

it's over

[teal hedge]

Watcha play? Shaman?

[solemn delta]

SP

I actually play everything

[teal hedge]

Hmmm, yeah SP does struggle a little against warrior

But any roots/slows you got is good

Warrior can also break fears, so pay attention to that

[solemn delta]

Well guess this season isn't a good one to play SP

Thanks for the advice

[teal hedge]

Iunno, SP is still pretty strong, fundamentally

[solemn delta]

SP isn't bad

[teal hedge]

Venruki placed it in A tier, but Arms is busted.

[solemn delta]

Warrior is just

Warrior

Yeah

wouldn't have phrased it better, I'm considering going braindead arms just to get my elite set

[teal hedge]

Thing with arms is that the skill-floor is pretty low, but the ceiling is highb.

[solemn delta]

Arms has been my main since Ny'alotha, sole reason I don't abuse it is because I'm a bit behind and too lazy to farm my tier set
(Also pissed that my SP is hardstuck at 1k3 while catch up conq gear is at 1k4)

SS feels hopeless ngl

[teal hedge]

Yeah

[solemn delta]

Fuck it I'll just grab the easiest talents and get my elite set, I've got a week left might as well cheese it

[teal hedge]

Sometimes you don't click with your teammates.

[solemn delta]

I just feel like Solo should've never been an Arena gamemode

[teal hedge]

I'd recommend going bleed, with warrior at least.

[solemn delta]

Any talents I can grab?

In a pinned channel

[teal hedge]

I could show you my semi-scuffed build

Generally speaking, skullsplitter hits pretty damn hard, from what I've seen, but I haven't got to using it yet.

[solemn delta]

As long as people slam their heads against a wall after facing me

That's my current build

[teal hedge]

And you slam your head into your keyboard (optimal rotation)

But I'm guessing you know the ins/outs?

[solemn delta]

I do, I used to play a lot of PvE arms during nathria it was my favorite class

Still sorta is tbh, idk why I dropped it

[teal hedge]

I play the other strong build rn

With thundurous roar

There we go

A more sustain-oriented build

[solemn delta]

Got I'll give it a shot

[sharp meteor]

is that roar skullsplitter thunderclap into melee monk

that actually does feel like getting to parse on an aoe pack

shamanism and power infusion 🤤

[elfin surge]

yea lmao

disc turbo is disgusting

its so broken

[teal hedge]

@elfin surge Send your build

I wanna try this shit out before season ends

[elfin surge]

was playing this in that game

[teal hedge]

So it has bladestorm more as a cc-clear?

And no DS?

This does look very interesting, how does it play?

[elfin surge]

its just

max pve cleave damage

i play thunder cringe into fistweavers mainly

[teal hedge]

Better than pure troar?

With unhinged and ds?

[green wyvern]

buff fury

[teal hedge]

Buff men 😳

[elfin surge]

unhinged is kinda dead

[teal hedge]

Hmm.

[thick reef]

Hey guys. Just stepping into dragonflight pvp. Just curious what is the optimal burst rotation as Fury. I feel like I'm popping cool downs in the wrong order

I've tried to look up guides but can't find an ideal guide on YouTube

[sharp meteor]

unhinged feels sketchy with pets or targets that don't matter

[stark reef]

Into non-pets still busted but less prio damage so if your set-ups are clean prob just run sks every time

But for shuffle without pets unhinged is goated

[vapid tartan]

why tclap into fw specifically? also when not running sks and against a non pet class, unhinged still mandatory?

[stark reef]

Slow + bleed

Nothing is mandatory

[elfin surge]

thunder crap does big cleave dam and is good to max spread rends with one global, allows for easier swaps.

Almost always sks but i did spec out of it vs rmp last night.

I'm almost never unhinged, too many pets and even vs non pets, sks is more valued over unhinged.

[vapid tartan]

Do you press rend at all

to refresh for a max sks?

[sharp meteor]

think of thunderclap as kind of rend/slam replacement

that also applies rend to everything

don't have to worry about spreading rends with sweeping

[vapid tartan]

Ah ok, I’ve only tried it on dummy and noticed I run out of rage a bit, so was wondering if I should mix in rends but I guess that’s bc I have 100% uptime

And I’ll be charging in actual arena

[undone pumice]

you also prolly arent pressing ignore pain vs a dummy

[sharp meteor]

they have saame cost don't they

[vapid tartan]

Clap is 40 rend 30 right

[undone pumice]

isnt thunderclap free?

[sharp meteor]

u want rage for ms but u also wanna spend rage

[undone pumice]

[sharp meteor]

for cdr

on smash

ideally smash for every bolt

ms does so much damagur that if you're clapping/iping at bad times and delaying ms it hurts damage more than simply pressing nothing

although spending rage can reset op so it's not the worst of the worst

[spice hornet]

@elfin surge what’s the sks build rotation

[vapid tartan]

Yeah that’s true, I’ll try swapping clap for rend and keep rend on the bars in case I ever have no rage and need to sks

[stark reef]

But it’s also a slow so no need to hamstring

[vapid tartan]

I didn’t think of that true added up rend hamstring same rage cost as a clap

[elfin surge]

yeah

[spice hornet]

Nice

[raven hound]

Y - Yell (Battle Shout)
E - Execute
A - Avatar
H - Hamstring

Max dps

[elfin surge]

[vapid tartan]

In early game no big cds used where cs is on Cd for say 15secs and I have sks up would I hold it?

[undone pumice]

i want @elfin surge to charge at me so hes nice and close and storm bolt me with his big weapon so he can put his arcanite ripper inside me so when hes done he can mortal strikee all over me because im a good training dummy for daddy

[elfin surge]

kay

[undone pumice]

this is how we get nuked again?

[elfin surge]

not again

[woeful solstice]

nuke it

bring back bench press posting and bullying

[elfin surge]

[spice hornet]

this is why i watch Dekel

[elfin surge]

k

[stark reef]

It’s time

After reading this chat I might have to get my hormone levels checked

[sharp meteor]

Did bung quit

[sharp meteor]

He's right. It was only missing, what, guardian of ancient queens?

Similar thing with SL Outlaw. People were arbitrarily okay with tank specs as long as they aren't technically tanks.

[fossil mortar]

All the gym bros left for pink, they always chasing the best gains

Warr is dead, so if you dislike it, now is the time to reroll Ret. Remember to delete skyhold and never look back

[spice hornet]

bung and mortalx so tilted rn

frost dk is a well designed spec

[quaint ruin]

What do u take instead of Unhinged? Fatality or Exilarating Blows?

[low sparrow]

4percent dmg inc fury saved sss+ tier

[fossil mortar]

Fury BiS now boyos, bend down to your new master spec

[woeful solstice]

yeah right

[fossil mortar]

I will be 1800 next season, and you will be whatever you are - but I am better, because I play Fury!

4% buff made that happen, trust

[woeful solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/umm-what-are-you-doing-wtf-gordon-ramsey-gif-18510553

[sharp meteor]

if meta less bursty

and fury keeps getting bandaids

i could see it being comparable or better

we shall see

[fossil mortar]

Odyn's Fury damage increased by 100%, Fury is fixed

[sharp meteor]

idk current version of fury doesn't seem very fun

even if it were good

[fossil mortar]

I enjoy it more than arms, personally. But it has always kinda been like that. Either you like Fury or you enjoy Arms.

Fury feels a lot more 'Go, go, go!' and arms is like that slower but steady juggernaut.
Fury frantically throws everything and the sink at the wall, breaking it down.
Arms slowly walks up to the wall with a fire-axe and starts chopping. Bringing the wall down in a steady rhythm.

I enjoy the noise and sounds Fury makes. Some find it a bit much.

[vapid tartan]

What is storm wall?

[merry valley]

talent node vs ignore pain

dbts parry heal

[vapid tartan]

Oh so useless?

[muted surge]

Kinda

[worthy fern]

It’s decent but not better than Ip

Would be sick to have both

[spice hornet]

is demo goign to be good next patch

i really hope thjat cancer spec isnt viable for once

[mild thunder]

probably

they dont rely on crit at all, and they havent received any other significant changes

so i dont imagine they change much

[quiet lily]

Started pvp first time since tbc on tues. hit 1800 today feelin pretty good, immediately go 0-6 😦

See you guys next season

Fury fun tho

[sharp meteor]

week after tuesday?

[quiet lily]

Lol

[spice hornet]

thought that was Bruin for a sec

got happy

[quiet lily]

I got trained 6 rounds in a row just detonated

[sharp meteor]

ya just got flamed by like 4 of the 5 other people in the lobby

[quiet lily]

Couldn’t survive with no parry spinny thing

[sharp meteor]

dps all went 3-3 and healers were 0-6 and 6-0 so it was weird

that everybody somehow piled on me

[quiet lily]

Honestly not sure how to survive as fury when getting hard trained

Although I am currently not spec in disarm which is kinda troll

[stark reef]

One of us

[hazy isle]

play arms get bored in 2 hours, play dk get bored in 4 hours, play ww mong never get bored

[thick reef]

Defensives on CD
Have Leech
Mash Impending

[hazy isle]

warrior is so braindead and boring man

[stark reef]

*wow

[thick reef]

Ret player detected

[hazy isle]

i dont play ret, but sure its more fun the arms

[quiet lily]

Ww monk players always pretend spec hard and nobody counters cause nobody plays monk lmao

[hazy isle]

if this is directed at me, i have never implied I liked ww because its "hard"

[thick reef]

If I wanted to play Monk I'd just play SMF and tmog fists

[hazy isle]

i like play havoc more than warrior as well

and its p easy

[quiet lily]

Who comes in war dc and says war dumb and boring

[mild thunder]

play ww monk
verse lock
cant crit
uninstall

[quiet lily]

Like come on

[hazy isle]

me

[quiet lily]

Not giga chad lol

[hazy isle]

yea it happens

[quiet lily]

Giga sad 😦

[thick reef]

Monks who suckstart shotguns for fun

[mild thunder]

ww is both the most fun and least fun spec in the game

[thick reef]

The shotgun ofc being the incoming Chaos Bolt

[quiet lily]

Yah I’m trying. I think that I need to just accept on openers that I will need to try and bail and live

[thick reef]

Bro I live for the Fury opener

[stark reef]

Fury is not that squishy tbh

[quiet lily]

I get kinda sucked in trying to do dps on beginning and then if I get trained I don’t wanna waste my buffs so I end up just staying in and dying

[hazy isle]

i kinda liked fdk devoker as well but it gets annoying after a while

[thick reef]

Fury is a brick fucking shithouse

[stark reef]

Just dstance and spam bloodthirst

[thick reef]

^

[quiet lily]

Oh no I am not saying it is squishy

Just that I am having some issues right now when I hard turbo focused with living even through all defensive

At around 1800 now. Did not have issue before

Also am kinda bad though

[thick reef]

The real issue

[stark reef]

Probably out of position a lot

[thick reef]

That too

Real easy to zug and just get turbofucked for it

[hazy isle]

warrior needs more visual effects tho fr fr

too bland

[quiet lily]

Yeah I think that’s my issue tbh

I end up nowhere near pillar and get hard trained and just focus on doing dps and ripping defensive instead of trying to just get away

Cause I never die when they’re not blowing cds

[thick reef]

Although in my defense I zug like a sub-80 IQ retard when a lock shows up lmao

[quiet lily]

And keep blowing all cds right away and get fucking disarmed immediately every time

[frail badge]

finally got my 1800 as arms this season, my last 1800 and last time played was s1 of bfa. above are the talents i ended up using thanks to this discord and the one with bags open is my old ui and the ultawide is my new ui which made everything more easy to read and follow

[quiet lily]

Need to maybe find way to bait disarm

[stark reef]

Congrats!

[thick reef]

You don't need to bait Disarm if you go Bleed Fury

[quiet lily]

Nothing worse than ripping full fury opener and then getting disarmed into hoj or something

0 dps bye

[thick reef]

You just pop TRoar & Odyns and watch them bleed out like a tampon

Ez

[quiet lily]

Gunna have to find fury player videos somewhere

Bhajeera had some I saw

But I guess anything works for positioning

Having fun vs everything but frost mage

Hate them

[frail badge]

thanks! you were the one who recommended me to try blade masters talent, and its surprising how many people group up to get cleaved even if they are ranged classes and it stoped me from getting cc'ed during my bust opener

[stark reef]

Yes, Bladestorm protecting CDs is amazing

And people always group, even at 3.5k

[frail badge]

Yeah I can't count how many times my burst opener got shut down before I switched to blademaster talent

[thick reef]

Yeah, I wish Fury had Bladestorm

[stark reef]

Agreed

[frail badge]

Now Im going to try and get the seasonal mount as I am 68% done so far on that and maybe get 2.1 if I can for the weapon illusion as I never got pvp illusion before

[stark reef]

Did you focus on just doing maximum damage to 1800?

If you’ve got that down I’d focus on selecting and calling good targets ever round.

That’s what got me to 2100 after hitting 1800

https://youtu.be/iY1F4SQNyRc

Used this video as basis for that

[frail badge]

Yeah I did a bit of both

I would always try and suggest a target

But I don't go full zug zug and tunnel and chase anymore like used to and that helps a lot too

And thanks I'll check out the vid in a bit

[fossil mortar]

Always go full zugzug

[frail badge]

what i meant by that is i would be so focuesd on the kill target and chasing him when there was a better target nearby i could aplly preasure too instead

[fossil mortar]

Did I stutter? ZUG ZUG

[frail badge]

lol

[wheat jay]

Zug zug is not about chasing the zug zugged

Because everyone can be zug zugged

And you're not zug zugging if you're chasing

[fossil mortar]

Zug zug.

[sharp meteor]

I just want my legend wins.

[fleet ivy]

guys best pvp race for arms warrior is gnome ? for alliance

[sharp meteor]

Gnome seems very good, yes.