pvp

[elfin surge]

[vapid tartan]

yes its mandatory

[proven pivot]

The set bonus is mandatory ?

[vapid tartan]

yes

you want 4set tier bonus

[proven pivot]

Is that the set bonus purchased with bloody tokens?

[vapid tartan]

no

[proven pivot]

Sorry havent played much of this expan

[vapid tartan]

the bloody tokens set only works in worldpvp not arenas

what you want to do is buy conquest gear, then take it to the creation catalyst and turn it into tier

it will scale to 424 in arena

[proven pivot]

Oh never knew that thank you

[vapid tartan]

yup, also make sure you get the two crafted pvp pieces

infurious helm of vengeance and infurious warboots of impunity

[proven pivot]

Expensive from a BS?

[vapid tartan]

at this point in xpac you can probably get it done for free main cost is the mats

[proven pivot]

Ah okay, thanks a million mate

[vapid tartan]

yeah should be able to get em both for under 20k including mats easy

[tawny elm]

any suggestion on streamer to watch in order to learn stuff?

[proven pivot]

Perfect, thanks a ton

[vapid tartan]

you can use the lowest quality because it scales to 424 anyway

[proven pivot]

Oh sweet

[vapid tartan]

in what situations against monks/rogues do you dbs to stop disarm before go? Im assuming later into the round?

or is it bad to blow the cd in opener

[fossil mortar]

You do it for your all in, your last attempt to win

That happens when the fight dictates it should happen. So we can't answer

#810664169140518947 message

Here you can see the enemy warrior do it alright, tho our point of view could have counterplayed it

[vapid tartan]

How can I identify better when it’s my last attempt? Just better knowledge of all class big cds?

[stark reef]

Time to take a shower

[vapid tartan]

Congrats dude!

[gusty adder]

Are we still running these in 10.1?

[muted surge]

If your healer is struggling and enemies have a big go soon while your team doesn’t have anything to counter

[gusty adder]

GRATZ!!!!

[vapid tartan]

Any tips for the climb frim 2200-2400 @stark reef

Ping ponging for the last few days

@gusty adder don’t think so since they are changing trinket bonus

[muted surge]

Do it like roxi and hope for good lobby, like a dk that goes 1:5 :D

[stark reef]

[woeful solstice]

balance in all things

[stark reef]

Swaps on defensives and immediately back after was the difference

[woeful solstice]

virgin fury vs arms chad

[stark reef]

Was training before through most defensives

[gusty adder]

Amen

lol

[stark reef]

I still train but now swap on healer during 6sec pain sub, etc.

Before that I just hit the guy anyways

[gusty adder]

Also to throw up hamstring on the other dps.

[vapid tartan]

Wat is pain sub

[muted surge]

I said not todo that on ever pvp review :x

[stark reef]

Pain supression

[stark reef]

I think you can do it to 2100

[muted surge]

Yeah doing that is such a dps loss

Idk still bad practice

[vapid tartan]

Can confirm you can do it to 2.1

Lmao

[stark reef]

Also, I stopped using spear completely

[muted surge]

Spear sucks

[stark reef]

Roar w/ Crit or Roar w/ Sks

Pets vs. No pets

No pets unhinged + crit, pets, sks + max bleed with 1 point in bladestorm for mobility only

[vapid tartan]

I’m just running regular roar with evenish haste crit

I keep trying sks but I win more rounds on regular roar

[muted surge]

Roar doesn’t influence sks

Those 2 talents have nothing todo with each other

[vapid tartan]

I mean the regular roar buold with no sks

[stark reef]

BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWikEJEJpUKJBAAAAEEJiGJAR0okISSoIRIBAplAAAAAAAAQkSyBiAANEA

This is my roar crit build for max cleave

But tbh, biggest one is consistency. You’ll always get a lucky lobby, just make sure you’re not losing easy rounds by playing tired/tilted.

Now road to 1650

Oh, and I dropped death sentence in 1/3 of lobbies for disarm/banner/duel

Last game I lost because of no death sentence though

[dark sparrow]

I can 100% guarantee you that not having death sentence didn’t make you lose

[stark reef]

No, could have reused banner

Was just sad seeing lock run with 15% health and DK died

Was a good 3 sec of that before it was over

Just didn’t think of dropping banner again

Honestly thought I had death sentence so I just smashed execute hoping it connects

[dark sparrow]

Idk why you would ever run that Garbo talent

[stark reef]

Banner is good into demo locks that play stationary

[stark reef]

Wins a lot of random rounds for me tbh

People don’t expect to get hit on that range

Free charge on sudden death

I like it a lot

[dark sparrow]

Or ya know, just charge execute them so you get warbringer dmg aswell

[woeful solstice]

death sentence is ass

[stark reef]

Not going to keep arguing - had a great run, 2 specs over 2k in less than 30 days from 0 with very minimal WoW pvp experience.

Play how you want

[fossil mortar]

Fury is King Spec

[woeful solstice]

i just watched a fury 0-6

[fossil mortar]

I watched arms go 0-6

[idle falcon]

question'

[tawny brook]

I exclusively go 3-3 or 2-4 as arms and fury both

[idle falcon]

@woeful solstice

could i take out EB for improved execute?

i feel like its more useful

[woeful solstice]

yea if u want

sometimes EB just goes off crazy tho

like 3-4 mortals

[idle falcon]

yeah but

[woeful solstice]

imp exec more reliable i get it

[idle falcon]

i mean

what would i take instead then

cause improved execute is important

[woeful solstice]

you can drop massacre for it

[idle falcon]

@stark reef what do u think bout this build

[woeful solstice]

you can drop FbV, Massacre

[idle falcon]

massacre is good though

[woeful solstice]

okay but like

you cannot have everything

lmao

[idle falcon]

thinking of dropping FbV

[idle falcon]

why not ;-;

[woeful solstice]

go play ret if you want everything

[idle falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-crying-walter-dying-gif-20964719

litterally need 1 more skillpoint and im set

blizz giff skillpoint

how bout unhinged

[woeful solstice]

funny cause they already basically gave us more points

with the balance patch during s1

[idle falcon]

the OG build says i should not go MS

[woeful solstice]

idk i run it all the time lately cause even into pet comps sometimes you can get a warlock by themself if they gate out

[idle falcon]

hrrrm

[woeful solstice]

the OG build?

what og build

[idle falcon]

pins build

i mean

[woeful solstice]

you missed this part

[idle falcon]

you sure FbV useful though?

[woeful solstice]

check for yourself

[idle falcon]

does the heal heal that much?

[woeful solstice]

see how much healing it does

[idle falcon]

k sec

[woeful solstice]

need to validate this yourself

[idle falcon]

what was the rotation again

[woeful solstice]

[idle falcon]

XD

charge > avatar > smash > TC > SB > MS > Sks

?

or smash before avatar

[woeful solstice]

charge > avatar > smash > MS >TC > SB and SS if cleave > Sks

[stark reef]

I run both execute talents in every game. I know a build like this is used by the top 5 of the ladder but I haven’t tried it.

[woeful solstice]

its preference for sure

[idle falcon]

FbV healed me for 119k

[woeful solstice]

it's a lot of healing

on average it was doing about 50-65% of my Ignore Pain healing

really only good in SKS build though, id drop it otherwise

[idle falcon]

@stark reef what would u replace to get Imp Execute

[woeful solstice]

because you're tickling dw a lot faster/often

[stark reef]

I have 2 builds, sgl target and cleave

[idle falcon]

single target

[stark reef]

I can link in a few

[idle falcon]

ok link

would be much appreciated

[woeful solstice]

brother

you only have like

2-3 things you can move around

for SKS build

ur lookin for something that doesnt exist, just try moving fbv/eb/massacre/imp exec around and see what you like

heres a build mud uses, drops unhinged and goes imp ss for big cleave

you also get all your execute talents

[glass lance]

how much honor does the new set cost in season 2?

[stark reef]

@idle falcon this is what I play into pets. I drop Bladestorm for another point into Bloodborn if I can afford it

Has extremely high priority damage and kill-pressure at every Csmash window

This is the build I played in my last lobby 5/1

I don’t ever run unhinged with sks - I look at them as opposing game plans

[worthy fern]

I saw some wars playing tclap rend into cleaves and it’s prob my fav build to play

Bleed build no sks just pumping aoe dam all game

[stark reef]

Yeah, that was the build I saw the top of the ladder play

Just never tried it

This build is from #1

BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWCJRSSSSalSEAAAAQQkIQCUERjSISSoJRIBAplAAAAAAAAQSkgAQ0QA

And this seems to be his cleave build

BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWCJRSSSSalSEAAAAQQkIQCUERhSISSoIRIBAplAAAAAAAAQiSCCARDB

First one is clearly sgl target

I think I'll fire this up for the rest of the week for the Road to 1650

🤣

He seems to be a big fan of imp overpower, I use that in every build, to

But no Fatality for a second point in Bloodborne

[arctic gull]

Will our honor transfer to the new season? As in can we save 15k and buy the honor set immediatelly

[stark reef]

Actually excited to try this tclap rend tech, looks pretty good

[vivid pumice]

i dont think there's gonna be a new honor set

if there is then i can't imagine it being higher than this season's conq set

[quaint ruin]

Is the macro in pinned for intervene supposed to work? Because it doesnt at all for me

Or is there a macro to intervene dps/healer (without names or party1,2,3) ?

[woeful solstice]

no you need to specify either party1/2/3 or names it seems

or help/harm macro it

charge if enemy, intervene if ally

[quaint ruin]

Kinda scuffed for SS not sure... i guess p1,2,3 is the best choice there

[arctic gull]

its actually gonna be 437 ilvl, crafted gear is 424 next season

[stark reef]

Just mouseover intervene

Also, don’t overuse intervene - very easy to take yourself out of the game with that ability

Best peel you have as arms is reducing enemy healthbars fast

[worthy fern]

@vivid pumice I’m pretty sure they announced new honor is > current conq this next season

Which is cool

[stark reef]

Yeah, all for it, clean slate

Imo just remove all gear from pvp, cosmetics only

Allow people to put points into stats and that’s it

Also, playing with 2.6k rated healers, everyone used their abilities

[haughty plaza]

So is the healing reduction from MS reduced to 25% in PVP? I've tried searching for this info but only find outdated stuff.

Annoying that you can't just search for a list of 'pvp modifiers' and find all the ways that pvp/arena modifys abilityes

[sharp meteor]

Yeah.

[vivid pumice]

I agree tbh. FF14 pvp is so good and gear is all cosmetic there

same with gw2

but when blizz tried to do that a few expansions ago people went ballistic

[wheat jay]

Cuz gear still mattered

Higher ilvl gave you more stats

It was amazing tho

[vivid pumice]

still a much better system than now

[wheat jay]

But i think current gearing is the best

[stark reef]

WoW PvP has never been about facing competition at equal. In vanilla it was all about gear advantage and later brackets like 2s and 3s had randos compete against premades and call it skill

Same reason people cry about shuffle

[wheat jay]

Also, gw2 pvp has build variety

In legion you didnt have any

[vivid pumice]

but people complained because they couldn't go into random bgs with full arena gear and one shot noobs

[wheat jay]

You had all stuff set in stone

0 customization outside of talenta

Gw2 Has builds, weapon sigils, rune sets, amulet for stats

[stark reef]

I like the costumzation - a set of points you can distribute or even link to talent build load-outs would be chill

[vivid pumice]

and people still just copy/paste whatever the internet tells them to use

[wheat jay]

All are free, but they still allow you to customize your char, unlike legion

It would be chill

But to be fair, current system is easy

[vivid pumice]

I just hate that i can be a better player than someone in every way, but because they have 20 more ilvls than me they just win

[wheat jay]

And good

Wow is a game built around gear progression

[stark reef]

It really is but at the same time playing pre full conquest just doesn’t feel good

[wheat jay]

Even in pvp

[vivid pumice]

The system for earning gear is good rn, but I still think wow pvp will never be its best as long as ilvl plays a significant part of pvp power

[stark reef]

I’d hate to see the numbers of people that quite before having full conquest

[wheat jay]

Ilvl plays small role, because you can fully gear up very fast

[stark reef]

But current system is definitely the best so far, no question

[wheat jay]

If it took months, or was gated behind rating like in SL

Id agree

But rn getting gear is ALL you have to do

[stark reef]

Gated behind rating is such a smooth-brain concept

[wheat jay]

It was terrible

[stark reef]

You need to beat better players with better gear to advance

[wheat jay]

Get 2.1k in 2s first week

[stark reef]

Exactly

[vivid pumice]

I jump into a SS on my monk right now, I'm already playing at 1600 because of my main's rank, I'm in honor gear, I go up against a guy who has full conquest but is hard stuck 1500, I out play the absolute hell out of him, I still don't put out enough dam to threaten a kill

[wheat jay]

Then blast 3s with higher gear

You dont play at 1600 because of main

That shit is not connected in any way

[pine tiger]

^

[stark reef]

I thought mmr was account wide?

[wheat jay]

No

Its never been

[vivid pumice]

not sure then why at 0 rating my ww immediately queued into 1600 rated games

[pine tiger]

that's pretty normal

[fossil mortar]

you start at 1500+ mmr

[wheat jay]

Because starting mmr right now is around 1600

[stark reef]

Oh, I see

[wheat jay]

Because 1600 is piss low rating, and a good start for players

[pine tiger]

^

[stark reef]

Is there a chart of mmr to % of active pvp players?

[wheat jay]

Iirc there was some ages ago

[vivid pumice]

yeah i mean i get that it's the end of the season and everyone at lower rating right now are just people on secondary specs or alts who were sent conq boxes, but it's still annoying

[stark reef]

1600 = high silver in league

[pine tiger]

what a meaningless comparison

[wheat jay]

Ye, piss low

In shuffle 2100 is low

[stark reef]

Not really, it’s 50%

[pine tiger]

oh, ic.. genius

[stark reef]

I would expect 50% to be at or below 1600

[pine tiger]

uh, ya.

that's called stats

[vivid pumice]

idk about that, I would say 1800 is like the low end in SS

[pine tiger]

it's everywhere

[vivid pumice]

you still have to consistently go 5/1 to get to 2100 in SS

[stark reef]

2100 prob high plat, top 10%ish

Although high plat is less % wise

[wheat jay]

Not really

[vivid pumice]

4/2 at 1800 is single digit gains

[wheat jay]

4-2 every 2nd or 3rd game and you can climb to 2100 easily

[stark reef]

I don’t think more than 10% are 2100, I’d even say less.

[wheat jay]

I mean, at 1800+ i got 27 for 2-4 xD

Its all about mmr

Not about cr

[vivid pumice]

yeah but that was probably the one game you didn't at least go even out of 50

[stark reef]

2400 less than 5%

[wheat jay]

Well, ye

As long as you're not getting dicked 1-5 every game you'll climb

[vivid pumice]

i have games on my paladin where I go 5/1 and get 0

[stark reef]

Pisslow pretty strong term for top 5%

🤣

[wheat jay]

Cuz you must have lost a lot before

[stark reef]

It’s like challenger player calling Diamond players trash

[wheat jay]

And your mmr dropped below your cr

[vivid pumice]

yeah i dropped ret a week into rework because it wasn't fun sitting 2 hour queues

[wheat jay]

If your mmr is above your current rating you'll climb with 3-3 easily

[vivid pumice]

and was trying to climb with holy prior to that which was a nightmare

idk its weird and makes no sense, I feel like the more i consistently win the less points i get

[wheat jay]

All about mmr

You can be mad at it, you can hate it, whatever

[vivid pumice]

conveniently all about the number I can't see or quantify

[wheat jay]

Mmr is what determines your rating gain/loss

You can see it

During the match

In 3s its after

[vivid pumice]

at least wow has that going for it then

[stark reef]

Is it the average matchmaking value?

[wheat jay]

In shuffle just open the scoreboard

Yes

[vivid pumice]

in LoL mmr is hidden and its the fucking worst

win a game, gain 19 points, lose a game, lose 30

[wheat jay]

If your mmr is higher than your cr, then 3-3 will give you rating

[stark reef]

Yeah, you can also game MMR in lol through dodging

[vivid pumice]

yeah my paladin was like pulling teeth to pull, then my warrior hit 1800 in like 15 games

[wheat jay]

Anyway, imma go sleep

[stark reef]

But pages like OP.GG show your mmr in lol, to

[wheat jay]

Good luck in q's gentlemen

Cheers

[stark reef]

Gn

[vivid pumice]

gonna play more war tonight while i fold laundry since queues are 45 minute

[stark reef]

War to 2100 feels pretty free just through raw damage output

Once people start punishing you for setting perma battle stance and rotate defensives properly it gets a bit more tricky but still OP

[vivid pumice]

yeah wondering if i can get away with playing on my shitty laptop at work

i'm jonesing to play some games tonight

went home last night after work and accidentally slept 16 hours

[vapid tartan]

Y’all I got into real college

[blazing hill]

/.

[stark reef]

Pog

[sharp meteor]

Gj buddy

[stark reef]

Make sure to focus on the studying over playing games

Then get work from home job and enjoy games

[vapid tartan]

yessir gotta struggle 2 more years

Then hopefully I can sit on my ass and make money

[stark reef]

🤝

[quiet lily]

do you guys have a macro to tab between dstance/bstance

[quiet lily]

the life

[stark reef]

I think it’s pinned in the PvE channels, but yes, 100%

[frail badge]

thoughts on this build? i was going to try sks with blood and thunder out in skirmishes in a few to compare to my roar with no sks build goal is 1800 via solo and i am 1490 so far. and is improved execute not as good as i thought? it seems mandatory but murlock io and top players says its not picked a lot from what i gather

[stark reef]

I would absolutely not recommend sks below 2100

You can use it but it is a lot less intuitive, a lot easier to mess up and even if played correctly needs set up.

If you want rating fast go max crit

Something like pinned roar without sks

[frail badge]

Oh ok can you recomend if I should change anything in my normal build then which is the following

I based that off of the pins and bahjeera recent build video

[stark reef]

Nope, that build looks perfect and should get you to 2100 without ever looking at talents again

Actually wait

Swap avatar + reck to avatar + Bladestorm

Bottom left talent

For 1500 I’d recommend really drilling your rotation on a dummy and then tracking if you can execute that in game.

That should get you to ~1800 regardless of who you hit.

After that proper target selection to 2100.

[frail badge]

thanks should i make bloodborne into rank 2 ? i only have it as rank 1 and would the fueld by violence talent be a good option to swap something for for the heal?

and if i get the blademaster tallent what is the right burst rotation?

so i smash after or before avatar

[stark reef]

If you’d play the same game with this change you’d maybe have a different outcome 1/1000.

At 1500 the mistakes are extreme. To gain rating simply focus on executing your optimal rotation every round. You will climb.

[stark reef]

Smash into macro

[frail badge]

can you expand on what that means, im not sure what macro means in thhis context

[stark reef]

#showtooltip Avatar
/use 14
/cast Sharpen Blade
/cast Thunderous Roar
/cast Avatar

Charge - smash - macro

Every game

[frail badge]

ok thank you i understand now

that will help a lot i think

[stark reef]

Don’t hamstring. Speed, momentum, violence.

Can hamstring after if they actually run but I usually Bladestorm right after and higher up I also now use sweeping strikes but ignore that at 1500.

Make sure you leave defensive stance during Bladestorm

[frail badge]

ok thanks so the fuel by violens and rank 2 of bloodborne not that needed and im good with what i have along with what you advised?

and should i swap one of my honor talent for the storm of detruction to give bladestorm a boost?

[stark reef]

I would, yes

Disarm

Don’t user before 2100

[frail badge]

ok cool thanks

do i need rank 2 of bloodborne and the fuel bleed heal talent iyo?

[stark reef]

No, some minor stuff you can move around but nothing that should translate to rating gain/loss

[frail badge]

ok cool thanks

[stark reef]

Very welcome. Just think in terms of bracket. At 1500 everyone is overwhelmed. You want to make sure the enemy team is stressed from 5sec into the round and keep it that way.

[lean burrow]

"don't hamstring, don't disarm, no bloodborne"

[stark reef]

1500, no need.

[vivid pumice]

most people don't know when they should be disarming at 1500

they just press it on cd

[glass orchid]

I press it on cd

At 2300

[vivid pumice]

On my pala I've started waiting on my burst cds until a war disarms and I almost always get disarmed right out of the gate

[stark reef]

I barely use it. Only if I plan to disarm kill-target. Rogue and ret. That’s it. Maybe 1/20 rounds.

[vivid pumice]

yeah i disarm on wings, meta, and vengeance

or whatever the rogue burst cd is called now

I just know what the icon looks like

[stark reef]

It’s good but it doesn’t give you tempo and that’s all you need at 1500.

[woeful solstice]

Bro what

You are telling people not to disarm and hamstring?

[stark reef]

At 1500, yes

[frail badge]

is murlock io acurate? it says almsot no one uses improved execute but that seems like its very usefull

[woeful solstice]

Yea sure if you want them to stay at 1500

[vivid pumice]

I'm not telling people not to disarm, I'm saying to pay attention and use it when appropriate otherwise you're gonna waste it

[stark reef]

🤣

[woeful solstice]

Just disarm an enemy go

[stark reef]

I didn’t use disarm once to 2100 and still barely hamstring

[woeful solstice]

It’s not rocket science

Wings? Disarm

[stark reef]

[woeful solstice]

Colossus smash? Disarm

[stark reef]

Just kill a guy, not rocket science

[vivid pumice]

i don't hamstring but it's because i'm bad

[woeful solstice]

This game really is fucked if we have warriors legit telling people to not disarm or hamstring

[stark reef]

That’s cope

[woeful solstice]

Brother what

You can impersonate dr disrespect all you want by saying momentum and violence but it’s just bad advice

Use hamstring and disarm for fucks sake

[stark reef]

https://youtu.be/kZ5KBpMS2Ms

First 10min are for you

This is what happens to new warriors coming to this channel

Used intervene, disarm, etc. but didn’t csmash until 1min in

I tell him to csmash second global and end the round

[woeful solstice]

yes and can still press other buttons

they arent exclusive

[stark reef]

Do you understand the new player experience at all?

Or just here to brag?

[woeful solstice]

yes because i was the "new player" during legion

for arena

[stark reef]

Legion

[woeful solstice]

its a lot

[stark reef]

That’s like fkn 10 years ago mate

[woeful solstice]

everyone was new once

[stark reef]

I was the new player on March 30th, 2023.

[woeful solstice]

telling them to do stupid shit when they are new is just bad, get the good habits in early

charge, hamstring, go

[frail badge]

i am kinda new, new to this season and expac but got my firs 1800 s1 in bfa as warr in 2s when fury was the best at that time

[woeful solstice]

enemy does a big button, press disarm, continue what you were doing

[stark reef]

Why hamstring an opponent at max health?

Wasted global

[woeful solstice]

so you can get them to 0 health much easier?

and not get kited

[stark reef]

Kited in Bladestorm

[woeful solstice]

and burn all your gap closers chasing someone you didnt disarm

[stark reef]

This channel makes the game to complicated for a strange reason

Form of gatekeeping

[woeful solstice]

im not gatekeeping one bit

i want other warriors to succeed

[stark reef]

I literally told him how I got to 2100

0 disarms, barely any hamstring in first 30sec

[woeful solstice]

couldve done it much easier

[stark reef]

Disarming in lower brackets is a complete waste of time

Damage is king for arms. Do damage, win games.

[woeful solstice]

disarming and hamstring let you do more damage

[stark reef]

[woeful solstice]

hamstring enables higher target uptime and disarming puts you in an oppressive position in which they are reacting to you

people trinket disarm all the time in low bracket

boom, now you get a free full duration bolt to pump into

[stark reef]

I trinket disarm all the time

Fk it

[woeful solstice]

its situational

but prob not ideal

[stark reef]

Focusing on everything at once will get you nowhere

Damage comes first, then comes target selection, then comes not dying, then comes utility

[frail badge]

i ussualy sit disarm but i have used trinket when i coult tell it would get a kill and it worked sometimes

[stark reef]

Over time you’ll get a feeling for tempo - if i know i need tempo to win I trinket disarm

You’ll have these windows between CDs and you know by the next time they are up you’ll be behind so you do everything to close the round early

Also if you’re not kill target and need to pressure enemy team to get them off your team-mate

Let’s say you play with lock into rogue

Bottom line is - a lot of people below 1800 put a lot of emphasis on utility and get very frustrated when the game suddenly ends because someone gets oneshot.

Be the reason for the oneshot.

The video I linked is a great example - the warrior tried to play around his team with disarm, fear and intervene but does not do any substantial damage for a long time.

[glass orchid]

Anyone know if they feel inflation this week?

Games at 2200 felt hard as fuck last week for some reason as ret war

The weeks before that (pre ret and shaman nerfs and disc buffs) even 2500mmr games felt easier than the games last week at 2200

[idle falcon]

This is a nice build!

[tardy fern]

Hello guys. Want to start on arena. Any tips to begin with? I see a lot of things diferent from pve on videos. Like having the same skill multiple times on the bar

[sharp meteor]

do big dam

[stark reef]

That’s a pro thing I never understood. I know people did it back in vanilla and tbc because of ability ranks but no clue why they do it now

Probably macros like ms with sharpen and ms without

[sharp meteor]

pardon

[stark reef]

Responded to why people bind several keys with the same spell

Not sure why

[gusty adder]

1 - I think they might have that spell macro'd to either a target/focus setup, or 1 macro for each enemy#.

2 - I saw Supatease say that they sometimes do it as a tooltip on top of another spell, just to make that particular (tooltiped) ability more visibility. Kind of makes sense - I mainly only see this done with people that use weak auras minimally.

This is the exact kind of thing I use weak auras for; and I love the added benefit of being able to add colors, sounds, etc.

But a lot of these guys are 3k+, so I certainly can't make a judgement against them.

[stark reef]

Yes, I also know that the arena realms were not permitting certain addons (not sure if that is still a thing) so they have/had to work with the standard UI to a large extend.

For tournaments, that is.

[gusty adder]

Ah that makes a lot of sense!

[rancid heath]

hey im gonna roll a war for s2 how would you best define the differences in playstyle of arms vs fury ? thanks

[lean burrow]

is this actually true? i can't even get 2k

[stark reef]

I just copied build from R1 fury - am I cooked or do I just press bloodthirst when I use annihilator?

Is this it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPZKfdRGAq4&ab_channel=Kaapo

Time to smurf with the 1 button rotation

[lean burrow]

bloodbath below 35% hp > rampage > bloodbath > execute > bloodthirst > slam/ww

priority

[stark reef]

ty!

Is the pinned onslaught build worse? Seems to have crazy prio dmg just 0 cleave

[lean burrow]

idk, i played 230 matches on fury to 2.1k

arms is still less than that (idk how many) and got to 2.7k

[stark reef]

Arms is busted for sure

[lean burrow]

arms is giga stronger

[stark reef]

Just thought I'd fk around after a good run before either quitting the game or tryharding next season

[lean burrow]

turns out I played one shuffle and now got 5 more rounds on arms than fury

[stark reef]

How much are our talents changing

Is it worth learning certain playstyles like cleaving sks before S2?

Or is it a complete overhaul

I don't know anything other than new raid

I do think fury is slept on though - that ladder is not tight whatsoever

One guy just 300pts ahead

[idle falcon]

roxi

is fatality that good?

[stark reef]

R1 runs it for sgl target but not for cleave build

Doesn't run EP though

[idle falcon]

kk

also

is bladestorm really that useful without Unhinged?

[stark reef]

Really depends on the game

It's very good but vs. some classes the point might make more sense elsewhere

[vivid pumice]

i swear sometimes i'm just using it for the root cleanse

[stark reef]

Yeah, it's good for that, roots, slows

[indigo barn]

If you get giga prediction brains, it's very strong into everything

[stark reef]

Also defensively if you don't want to eat CC because you're for example LOSing healer

[indigo barn]

Bahj often storms incoming stuns and disarms with ease

[stark reef]

Yeah, insane skill-cap but personally not there

[indigo barn]

Yep

[vapid tartan]

can make it easier to see stuff

i have like 3 intervene in a row so its impossible to miss

[bright stream]

its really a hangover from the wotlk/cata era when pvp/arena players were staunchly anti-addons

WA's have become socially acceptable to use (probably because of the Mes pack and his media personality), so there's not really much point in doing it that way any more

[sharp meteor]

Used to not be able to use addons in tournament or w/e so everybody just copied the good players who also didn't use anything aside from scripts to move/resize ui.

The default has and still is lacking, like it doesn't even show drs

Weakauras is a little too powerful tho

[simple rock]

real gamers track ui in their head

dr*

[bright stream]

the tourney rules changes not that long ago if I remember as well

I dunno, it was weird though even new/intermediate aussie players would do it

and its like, bro you're not going to blizzcon, its like 4-6k worth of plane tickets and accommodation lmao

[sharp meteor]

I think most people just didn't wanna setup a fancy ui

hell, lot of people still don't even lock their gladius

wish default ui was better

[cinder tundra]

Does fury have noticeably shorter SS queue times?

[lean burrow]

no

[bright stream]

slow queues around 15-20, fast ones around 10

[sharp meteor]

a little quicker usually yeah

[fossil mortar]

Fury is around 10-20. Arms I gave up after sitting for 50min+. Both same 1900-2k MMR bracket. As fury you will face arms, arms try to avoid arms in games. There are a lot of arms warriors

[muted surge]

50+ maybe at 3 in the morning

On arms with 2-2.3 I have 15-30 min queues

[teal hedge]

You fellas think audio is worth investing in?

Been eyeballin a couple of headphones for 300 bucks

[cinder tundra]

for purely Wow no imo, for music + movies etc yes

[fresh valve]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-batman-gif-21697296

[graceful ginkgo]

yes, audio is underrated. for good headphones you do need amplification, tho (good soundcard or, better, a real headphones amp)

[teal hedge]

I'm gonna pick up a pair of wh-1000xm4's on the way home, I think.

I have a pretty decent cloud II for my pc, but I need some audophile stuff.

[lean burrow]

the fire rises

[graceful ginkgo]

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/mad-lust-envys-headphone-gaming-guide-8-18-2022-ifi-go-blu-review-added.534479/ ... this is a great start if interested

[teal hedge]

I need wireless ones though

Even though I'm aware you lose out on quality.

[graceful ginkgo]

for wireless you need low latency bt connection

[teal hedge]

Yeah, though they need to be general use as well, for I am poor

[graceful ginkgo]

idk if the xm4 have it, check it before

[teal hedge]

And phone-buds are brokie

[graceful ginkgo]

i dont think the xm4 have anything over the xm3, btw, since you wanna save some money

[teal hedge]

Oh you can wire the xm4s

That's fair, but I need noise-cancelling

[graceful ginkgo]

xm3 has it

[teal hedge]

Fr?

[graceful ginkgo]

yep

[teal hedge]

Ah, xm3s are not available where I live

[graceful ginkgo]

i live in germany, the xm3 is almost 100 euro cheaper than the 4

ah

[teal hedge]

I live in Sweden, only place that has them is Amazon

Where shipping costs billions upon billions extra

[graceful ginkgo]

cant go wrong with the sony xm4 then

if you want wireless for sure

[teal hedge]

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking

I often use headphones to fall asleep as well, so wired buds etc can and will break

[graceful ginkgo]

jeah, wired is annoying

ive been using wireless buds and headphones as well

[teal hedge]

Real

Man, I sorta miss da international aspects of Germany

You guys hardly pay taxes on electronic goods :P

[graceful ginkgo]

19%

[teal hedge]

25% + negative exchange from sek to eur :(

[graceful ginkgo]

25% VAT? wow that's harsh, but if you get more stuff from the state, it might even out

[teal hedge]

Goes into Uffe's pockets

[limber relic]

I use the xm4

They r nice

I cant live without the noise cancelling anymore

[muted surge]

Has what? They are not low latency

But you can cable connect them

[teal hedge]

He's talking ANC

[muted surge]

I have the mx3 and they are really nice for music

But I couldn’t play with them

[distant dagger]

anyone have a good plater profile for pvp?

[muted surge]

(Without cable)

[muted surge]

The one from mes :)

[distant dagger]

where can i find that?

[graceful ginkgo]

i've never played with sony headphones, but everything bt 5.0 should be ok for gaming (?) ... cable ofc beats wireless in regards to sound and latency

but fuck cables

[muted surge]

Nah it’s noticeable

But tbf i played valorant at that time and not wow

So might be fine for mmos

[graceful ginkgo]

well, that's gonna be different, yes

cant beat a wired connection if you need the lowest latency

for wow, wireless is perfectly fine imo

[magic wing]

Buy hyperx headphones

Best on the market

[muted surge]

(No)

[distant dagger]

where can i find that?

[muted surge]

Notmes twitch

[distant dagger]

ty i found it

[teal hedge]

Getting back into wow is gonna be so satisfying, I reckon

(I've put it on hold until I graduate, which is the 10th of June.)

*9th

[graceful ginkgo]

It really is

[teal hedge]

Headphones go hard

Can't hear the miserable traffic

Blocks the rumble from the bus as well

I can finally listen to my trash-vaporwave and hear every instrument

[muted surge]

Did you get the mx4?

[teal hedge]

Xm4 yeah

[knotty atlas]

Is that some PvP flex that i'm too PvE to understand?

[whole condor]

anyone else find that when queues get really long, weird shit happens? e.g. you get put into a lobby with three ppl at 2300, three people at 2000 and average mmr of 2150, so you need win mad games just to keep your rating?

[dark sparrow]

This is because you will get matched with 2 healers that are around same mmr as eachother but can be a lot higher/lower mmr than the rest of the dps, who are also matched in mmr

[elfin surge]

just gaming with my guild master

[dark sparrow]

But when you look at scoreboard it will show the average lobby mmr while actually this is wrong cause it gets skewed by the separate healer mmr

[dark sparrow]

You boosting your gm?

[elfin surge]

just gaming

[whole condor]

does this happen more when queues are flat?

[dark sparrow]

yes because q's are flat since there are no healers q'ing up around your mmr at that time so its gonna go look for healers elsewhere

[idle falcon]

@stark reef is EP that good?

[stark reef]

I like it but it’s not very popular higher up

[idle falcon]

would it be more useful to add another point into bloodbourne?

[stark reef]

That’s for you to decide

I’m not the expert, I’m a random casual that fired up some random build that looked fun.

I’ve done very little research and just played some lobbies as they popped up

I didn’t even read talents until I hit 2100

[warped warren]

thats what happens when you sit in queue for 20 hours. mmr goes down to find people to match with

[tawny elm]

some glad feral told me not to stun main target. is that how you play?

i stormbolt left and right the target i go after 😒

[teal hedge]

Well, I like stunning healer

For securing kills, but stunning target also works

If it prevents saves / defensives, it's good.

[tawny elm]

i do it to stop casting mostly

mby bad idea

[teal hedge]

That's solid too

Use it on hunters in rapid-fire

Seeing as they can't be kicked

[tawny elm]

yeh

[teal hedge]

Same goes for big spells, like lock-tyrants

[elfin surge]

as kitty cleave you bolt healer mostly ye

[tawny elm]

ah

feel it hard to turn the match around when youre under preassure. i press parry, def stance ip and rally but as long as im focused i dont feel theres much i can do 😦

disarm if possible as well

if i leap away it usually ends with me over extending

[stark reef]

With arms being the tankiest dps you getting hit is the best thing that can happen to you/your team

But you have to use ignore pain and impending victory throughout the whole match on CD and dstance whenever you don’t have major damage or expect to take more damage than you are able to dish out

This will allow you to hold parry much longer

[tawny elm]

aah kk

ill just sit it out in dstance till i can go

bad idea to macro IP with for instant MS?

or save it for on demand

[stark reef]

Don’t sit dstance, just swap in and out. The more nimble you are the better.

No IP macro, I have a TMW in the very middle of my screen that shows whenever it’s off cd and I press it.

Even at full health

Only time I don’t is when I need the rage for kill

And I’m way ahead

[stark reef]

TellMeWhen button

[tawny elm]

ok 🙂

[stark reef]

https://youtu.be/ShBmcehEBBg

Same as in this video

[tawny elm]

nice

gonna make one

[lime fossil]

is it possible to grind a full conq set in a day

assuming you win like 60% of games

[sharp meteor]

ya but why would u want to

[lime fossil]

i'm new to warr

what do you mean?

like get the crafted epics and vault shit?

i want to do bgs

[sharp meteor]

season ends in 5 days mang

[lime fossil]

ah

then i'd be geared for the next season start at least lol

[sharp meteor]

next seas honor gear is like 13 ilev higher

if u want elite set or w/e now that's one thing but no point in gearing

[lime fossil]

oh yeah you're right the honor set will be better

cool that's good news then thanks

[quiet lily]

purple lightning shoulders bro

thast why

[sharp meteor]

ye fair can't get conquest set until like next expac maybe

which is annoying because purple set sort of sick lmao

[quiet lily]

this is my favorite warrior tier in a long time

and the purple is awesome

[stark reef]

Can someone explain the trade-off between onslaught vs. annihilator build? I see all top rankers play annihilator but the playstyle feels wack.

What I am seeing is that it allows for a cleave build

Can't imagine this hits hard though but it's one of the builds played by R1

[sharp meteor]

u rampage u execute proc u bloodthirst it's a simple life

[stark reef]

It seems extremely simple

🤣

[sharp meteor]

it is

it's hard in the sense that it's underwhelming in regards to numbers

[stark reef]

is this guy really whirl winding people

[sharp meteor]

like the spec doesn't outright kill or pressure people like arms

[sharp meteor]

ya meat cleaver good aoe dam

like if u on 2-3 people

it is very high sustained dam

[stark reef]

yeah, it's just cooked but he's 3300 on fury, something must work out for him

[sharp meteor]

from what i can tell it's execute talents vs isolated target and

oh yeah but it's like rev so

[stark reef]

oh, that's rev?

momlover?

[sharp meteor]

he could have a shitpicky build and b fine

but yeah psure it's meat cleaver into 2-3 target prolonged and then like

execute talents for isolated like vs casters

[elfin surge]

mamazboy is the only war who cares to play and gear fury

nate is a god tho

[stark reef]

he's not that far off the arms pros though, no? 200 points behind isn't all that bad

[elfin surge]

hes gaming

[stark reef]

But the build just seems so damn weird

[sharp meteor]

how so

[stark reef]

I'd shit bricks if I stand in a meele cleave and someone uses cmash and bladestorm and I got my whirl wind going for me

[sharp meteor]

least enjoyable thing about fury was losing storm and double storm

just sit there and get disarmed with no counterplay like a bot

[elfin surge]

Played some turbo cleave

[sharp meteor]

mmmm turby

[stark reef]

Fury opener his insanely hard though

[sharp meteor]

do u play lust and skullsplitter

[elfin surge]

ye

[sharp meteor]

was gonna try that with my shomon

[elfin surge]

its big dam

[sharp meteor]

just focus on trying to find somebody every 30 seconds with bolt sharpen skullsplitter then ele damagur

er enh damagur

then like rising sun kick or w/e

[stark reef]

Also seeing some pros not run massacre

Tell me that's haram

(or I have to change the settings on my WA's 💀 )

[sharp meteor]

skullsplitter requires a few talents so u gotta lose something

[stark reef]

[sharp meteor]

imp execute feels so awk to lose but is an option

massacre is another

or exhil blows

or fatalty

[elfin surge]

[spice hornet]

Lust makes skullsplitter build feel good

Otherwise I do not like that build

Been playin that no bladestorm build anyway

Shits fire

[stark reef]

Someone said yesterday that annihilator fury uses slam as filler? I don't feel like I have any gaps in my bloodthirst, bloodthirst, bloodthirst rotation...

[quiet lily]

i dont see why they would

slam hits for shit

[stark reef]

Easiest 5/1 lobby to 2400 of my life

[quiet lily]

link build?

honestly hate bladestorm

makes me not want to play arms, prefer fury but having trouble with fury defensives

losing parry sucks

plus no ip

good leech but

[stark reef]

It's a meme, use at your own risk

BcEAoonA2h02U1PVo4204nicFAgWiERSSSSKlSSAAAAABRiAJAR0okkIJhmEhEAkWCAAAAAAAAJhICAAB

Good meme into demo locks though

[spice hornet]

You do but it’s extremely rare

To slam as filler

[quiet lily]

honestly just trying to findsomething i like the playstyle of more. skullsplitter arms just has too many fuckin setup buttons

i like fury cause its just point and click but it feels underwhelming

[stark reef]

I'll try this whirlwind annihilator build

🤣

[quiet lily]

im gunna literally rip whirlwind am/os right now

in PVE it has nutty sustain with good burst idk i would imagine its good in pvp too

but i am TRASH at pvp, havent done it since tbc

[stark reef]

It has to be good but it just feels like turbo-cope compared to arms cleave

"Watch out boys, my whirlwind just came off CD"

[quiet lily]

i would imagine that pve->pvp dps has some sort of correlation

[quiet lily]

well whirlwind has no cd in fury

oh

at least am/os

anni cleave would be weird

[stark reef]

It's the Storm of Blades talent

8sec

*Storm of Swords

[quiet lily]

storm of swords is so weird

ww still hits for nothing

buffing ww dam as near capstone talent

does like 8k dmg now lol

[stark reef]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/area-52/momlover

This guy is cooking with it

Just copied his exact build, time to give it a go

[spice hornet]

Have you tried copying the build from @mild thunder ? I have had great success with it

Easy 2100 push

[stark reef]

[quiet lily]

yeah hes not running imp ww though, so sos is just to get anni

[stark reef]

I have outranked @mild thunder by 1 rating. I no longer take him serious.

[stark reef]

I think it's his 2nd or 3rd loadout

He runs everything, meat cleaver, etc.

[quiet lily]

oh i see

meat cleaver?!

[stark reef]

Yeah

[quiet lily]

oh misread somehow

for some reason mixed up with barb training and seismic

[stark reef]

I had to take that point and put it in massacre though, meat cleaver over massacre is haram

Cannot do that

[quiet lily]

im gunna run full AM/OS basically pve build

and see what happens

[stark reef]

Run Spear + Ravager

[quiet lily]

im shit rank at like 1200 so i figure the huge cleave sustain will be overwhelming

[stark reef]

1200 just go single target tbh

Just take someone out quick

[quiet lily]

trying to figure out what i wanna do

anni with RA feels so 10.0 to me lol

but i should prob just run what other ppl do tbh

ra/of/anni is big burst

[stark reef]

Nah, enjoy the game the way you like to unless it pays your bills

Gotta really give credit to blizzard for these talent trees - end of season and people still working it out

[quaint ruin]

Time in queue: 34 minutes

And someone declines

https://tenor.com/view/face-melt-dead-gif-14606757

[elfin surge]

@spice hornet

[spice hornet]

Hi

[quiet lily]

does honor reset in s2?

[sharp meteor]

Honor usually doesn't, no.

Honor gear is 13 ilev higher tho so I wouldn't be surprised if they did

BUT probably won't

[quiet lily]

nice ill just stock honor then

farming conquest right now just for the mog

[stark reef]

WW build kind of owns tbh

Was able to keep up with ret & arms in cleave despite getting trained and playing perma-dstance

I'll take it

[sharp meteor]

sitting dstance perma is troll

just die and say healer diff

[stark reef]

🤝

[stark reef]

The virgin-survivoooor vs. the chad "just die and go next" gamer.

Aaahhhhh, I'm surviiiviiiing!!

[sharp meteor]

no

in general yeah

probs easiest to push now

especially if they do any last minute inflation adjustments

end of seas always ton of people wrappin up stuff tho

[unique fox]

if you have a team its probably not bad but relying on the lfg stragglers is Hell on Earth

[stark reef]

It's extremely based - meele cleaves in shambles

It's over

[prime lion]

laddersplitter

how was the wr ?

[elfin surge]

gaming

[elfin surge]

fury main

[torpid aspen]

i hit 1800 but didnt get my glad title i think game is bugged be careful boys.

[teal hedge]

???

[woeful solstice]

i hit 1600 but didnt get my glad title i think game is bugged be careful boys.

damn that s2 duelist illusion looks really good

[sharp meteor]

ya it do

[stark reef]

I used disarm on a 1500 ret-paladin. He miss-clicked lay on hands and proceeded to afk the rest of the round out of frustration. Where is my glad title?

[sharp meteor]

hope we get an elite ashkandi

[sharp meteor]

most stable ret reroll

[stark reef]

🤣

[mild thunder]

The difference is I got my 2.4 at like week 3 or 4 of the season when it actually meant something and then stopped pushing, you got it at the very end when arms was an S tier spec

[sage raptor]

This icon always confused me

[stark reef]

My honest reaction.

[near delta]

This is actually a weird flex lol

[unique fox]

all i see in LFG everyday is the same rets with their CR steadily dropping

back in the Hell Zone boys

[stark reef]

You're trying to meet a guy behind the shed?

[quaint ruin]

Why is this dumbass bug not fixed where hunters frame disappear on feign

It could be the most annoying shit ever

[woeful solstice]

[tawny elm]

for some reason i end up without stance sometimes. how can that happen?

could it be my macro?
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;!Battle Stance

[stark reef]

Definitely get a WA to yell at you if you're not in a stance

[tawny crater]

If you try swapping too quickly you can end up with no stance at all

[tawny elm]

hm k

[tawny crater]

It’s like a 2 second cd between swapping

[tawny elm]

:/

[tawny crater]

Ya it’s annoying I made a wa that spams giants letters on my screen if it happens

[stark reef]

I have a WA that reads out @mild thunder chat-logs in the tik-tok voice. Have not been without a stance since.

[magic wing]

"When it actually meant something" thats that boomer talk watch out

[teal hedge]

Holy crap lois

Next season in 6 days

I am not sure I will get to enjoy it, however.

[stark reef]

🤝

Bloodthirst just hits different

I need a footpaddle to play this spec more effective

Or a steering wheel

[unique fox]

Well I think its safe to say anyone left in LFG at this point is beyond dogshit

[sharp meteor]

u have some rough queues? lol

[unique fox]

Oh yeah buddy, tanking good

Random target swaps, blinding off my bleeds, offensive bubbles, you name it theyve fucking done it

Just hit the guy with sharpen on him lol

[tawny brook]

😂

[woeful solstice]

what mmr

i want to push r1 but my team was done after glad mount lol

[low sparrow]

fury looking good next season or nah

[sharp meteor]

Ehh.

[stark reef]

Time to play Barbarian on D4 next season

[low sparrow]

😩

[quaint ruin]

WHAT IS THIS G AME

how the fuck do i end up in a SS with prot paladins in pve gear doing fuckall?

How are u supposed to NOT get another ban for breaking the rules of the "social contract"

When playing this game

[low sparrow]

its easy

dont talk in chat

if you have no self control thats on you so

[quaint ruin]

I should be allowed to call a completley useless shitter a completley useless shitter

[low sparrow]

blizz doesn't think so

its just the rules now man we just gotta deal with it

[quaint ruin]

Yeah I know, i should be kind and helpful towards others

[low sparrow]

they dont care about what you think

https://tenor.com/view/jail-right-to-jail-right-away-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-gif-16177531

[quaint ruin]

"Nice try mate maybe next game you can press two abilities instead of one. Im cheering for you. If you want I can also give you some advice after this 0-6"

cumba-fucking-ya

[low sparrow]

oof

dont let ss tilt you man its a game mode for noobs

play 3s

[quaint ruin]

3s right now is:
a) r1's pushing alts
b) glads that are boosted glads
c) 1400 exp players

[low sparrow]

devs fault

holinka is hiding in one of the basement closets in blizz headquarters

[quaint ruin]

I blame feminists

[fresh valve]

at least Alexstrasza's still hot

[stark reef]

What now?

[pliant hare]

3s right now is:
a) r1's pushing alts
b) glads that are boosted glads
c) 1400 exp players

[fresh valve]

3s right now is:
a) Homosexuals

[tawny brook]

3s is so 2020

[stark reef]

<- I am c)

[exotic storm]

Some people just going to complain no matter what. Better to just ignore the people who like being miserable

[fresh valve]

if u dont get glad this season just quit pvp

unless u want that shuffle toy really bad

[tawny brook]

Shuffle is the only real score

It is like being in shape. It is something money cant buy

[fresh valve]

no it aint tf

[stark reef]

3s players talking about their bracket to shuffle players:

[tawny brook]

Lol

[fresh valve]

u can rmt shuffle lmao

[tawny brook]

I’m going to act like I didn’t read that so I can still feel superior to better players and say they got carried

[fresh valve]

"better players"

[rotund trellis]

I thought I saw it all

horde pallys exploiting alterac

I was able to capture only me

but they off bounced 15 people at graveyard

obviously the game won't let me in anymore an I'm perma stuck in the void

[unique fox]

Went from 2200 to 1850 over a span of 3 days, lmao. Guy we went to 2200 went MIA and it's just been one shitty partner after another. Pretty insane tank tbh.

These donkeys are running out of dome, randomly hojing dps, wasting bops on nothing and shit. Insane.

[bright stream]

@unique fox realistically

The season is over

[unique fox]

Yeah it's slim pickings

[bright stream]

Most players playing at this stage are either not taking it seriously, frustrated and desperate, or toxic and desperate.

[spice hornet]

Weren’t u lying about reaching 2.4?

[stark reef]

Sorry, I meant 1.4

[bright stream]

For the last 2-3 weeks anything outside of prime gaming time has been terrible.

@unique fox Genuinely, I recommend hanging it up for the season to avoid burnout/mental boom etc. And prep to go again in a couple of weeks.

[stark reef]

this is my priest getting 1.4k casting mindblast whilst the enemy ret Paladin has wings and pi

Unfortunately the shaman died but nothing I could do

[bright stream]

Maybe go play a good game instead of wow like elden ring or jedi survivor

[unique fox]

Yeah we're just trying to get reps in at this point and hopefully farm some competent btags for next season

I imagine any competent ret got their shit done the week they got the rework

[bright stream]

Dont think its worth tho. Low value reps - and player quality poor as.

[fresh valve]

Im more stressed out doing wow pvp than playing Path of Exile

[bright stream]

Yeah months ago. Every ret between 2200 and 2600 was a coinflip at best in ss recently.

Healers not muvh better.

Mages were ss gods tho - those guys been waiting for months for their moment.

[bright stream]

Its probably because the entire community behaves like cunts constantly.

[fresh valve]

most serious wow pvper's are old men

Middle-aged*

[stark reef]

Finally some truth

[bright stream]

You get stupid rage whispers basically every game. Ever fotm reroller or boosted player has an ego a mile wide, and twice as tall. Everything you've ever done in the eyes of other players is meaningless because [insert stupid reason here]

[bright stream]

The most* toxic players Ive met are mostly late teens early 20s. But they did all have one thing in common - they were american.

[tawny brook]

Imagine the person that would send a rage message. Now you can not care what they say

[unique fox]

Love getting rage whispers myself

[tawny brook]

Same

[unique fox]

So fun to talk shit back, you have to try and tilt them as hard as possible

[fresh valve]

most of the wow playerbase has aspergers

[stark reef]

I have rage-whisper prepared on a spreadsheet ready for copy/paste

[sage raptor]

people seem to know I play prot to bait reactions now. I dont get them anymore.

[vivid pumice]

yeah i had a healer last night who let me die through IP, Rally, and Def stance because he wouldn't burn a cd and then tried to say it was my fault because I was "getting cleaved"

[stark reef]

Best part is whisper a guy in the middle of shuffle and then win the remaining rounds

Or lose them, immediately press ignore and pretend it didn’t happen

[vivid pumice]

yeah he ended up 1/5 so you know

[tawny brook]

Heal virgins only exist so Chad dps can have fun

[tawny brook]

Hahaha

[fresh valve]

rage whispers are the only redeeming value of shuffle

[sage raptor]

so true bestie