pvp

[teal hedge]

NOTHING

Right?

[red igloo]

bropooo

[woeful solstice]

dignity

[red igloo]

this fkin crignelord

lkeft the match

[teal hedge]

Hmmm.... spit your fax indeed brother

[red igloo]

cuz he was about to lose

[dark sparrow]

Nice lil chaddimus will get stronk

[stark reef]

Gnome is broken

+267 rating since going gnome

[quick carbon]

i hope ur all rdy

for return of shockwave

im so pogging rn

[stark reef]

Born ready. Copy paste the pins and send it

🤝

[exotic storm]

shockwave is what happens when trump and biden slap hands

[sage raptor]

So what pvp talents we running in 10.1

[stark reef]

FK

at 2.4

FK

It hurts

[mild thunder]

Seethe

[woeful solstice]

hahaha

[stark reef]

1/5, worst game by a land mile today

Absolutely unlpayable

[wheat jay]

True

Why does minigame get cool stuff and wow main content doesnt

[frosty nexus]

you will never see gladiator level players complaining that they cant get keystone master

but u will always see keystone master players complaining they cant get gladiator

[stark reef]

Keystone master is actually a meme

I have no idea how people do need get that

You have to absolutely drool on the keyboard to not get KSM

[wheat jay]

Y'all say that meanwhile 90% of this channel can barely get 1800 in solo shuffle

[stark reef]

[wheat jay]

Lets be real, keystone master is as much of a meme as 1800

[stark reef]

Yeah, prob true

I just played way more PvE

[woeful solstice]

i keep going 3-3

i want legend on my main for that pennant

fucking hilarious my wars are like 2300 in ss but my alt is fucking 2550 in 3s

ss garbage bracket

the trick to countering rets was to not que during the first week of them being busted. big mistake

[wheat jay]

So did I

Even 20s are a joke

[stark reef]

100%

[wheat jay]

But then again, so is 2100

Especially in solo shuffle xD

All depends on how good you are

[stark reef]

I'd say shuffle to 3s is a 300point difference

2100 shuffle = 1800 in 3s

[wheat jay]

Lmao no

Like 600

[stark reef]

Pretty sure on that just based on the team-mates I have

You think so?

3s is all about the other 2 people

If you're 1600 and they are 2400 you'll easily push 2100+

if you're 2400 and they're 1400 you're flinging mud in 1800

[wheat jay]

Nah

[stark reef]

But even just queueing 3s with mythic raiders you get 1800 without much practice

[wheat jay]

Well, we gotta consider meta too

[wheat jay]

True, i did with guildies xD

[stark reef]

Same

Had no clue about PvP, queued up with the guild, got 1800

[wheat jay]

Ye but I also got glad with 0 xp

[vivid pumice]

thats because mythic raiders are hopped up on adderall 24/7

[wheat jay]

Just had my teammates teach me

[stark reef]

My drug of choice is 2 redbulls

Guild used to raid at 2am so I needed 3

Main reason I stopped, too degenerate to crack open a redbull at 11pm 3x week

[wheat jay]

Main reason I stopped

Work

Dogshit shifts

[stark reef]

Yeah, that's not fun

Luckily I work from home so I can have shuffle queues run all day

[wheat jay]

And you get what

3 lobbies?

[stark reef]

Yeah

Hahaha

With 1 DC

[vivid pumice]

are queue times just bad because warrior is popular rn or is just no one queuing

[stark reef]

Nah, just too much dps vs. heals

[wheat jay]

Both

[vivid pumice]

tried to q on war last night and it was like 45 minutes i gave up

[stark reef]

20-30min on average

[vivid pumice]

i can play heals and get instant queues but then the quality of games is terrible

i hate losing more than i like winning

[stark reef]

I played heals in a different game very long time ago, fun if you're playing with friends but I was always the healer that would DPS anyways, no bueno

Or play support once tilted in league

[vivid pumice]

healer in SS is chain cc simulator right now

[peak saddle]

let's goooooo 8 more days until my ban is over 🙈 🙈

playing LoL in the meanwhile like a true beta while thinking about my poor sad and lonely warrior 🙈 🙈

[old trail]

you got banned?

[peak saddle]

account suspended yes

i think i went too far with the "memes are dead"

[sharp meteor]

at least the s2 ksm mount looks a little better next season

s1 one looks like a slightly pointier kodo

[wheat jay]

S2 is pointier shinier kodo

[merry pelican]

hey guys, wich streamers youtubers etc can i look for as a fresh pvp player? i do know bajheera and some stuff really helped but i kinda would like to see some more too
(sry if this question is out of place here)

[copper hare]

Larosw, joefernandes, existance

[merry pelican]

ty

[idle falcon]

lowkey wish god would bless me good games

like why tf am i against a ret+arms combo

what did i do to deserve this

nvm i won the round

lol

[vivid pumice]

just focus the ret

they fall over now

[stark reef]

Yeah, ret is good target

[idle falcon]

and so is lock

nice 2 for 2

lock tp'd behind pole

i feared the healer for 5 seconds

xd

5 for 5

can i get the sixth win

?

[stark reef]

2367 to 2151

[idle falcon]

6/6

HOLY SHIT

[stark reef]

🤝

[idle falcon]

244 RATING

[stark reef]

Wtf?

What rating were you at before?

[vivid pumice]

how do you guys get so much

[idle falcon]

uhh

1400

[vivid pumice]

i go 5/1 and get like 15

[idle falcon]

xd

[stark reef]

I see

[idle falcon]

but i was against 1600 players

i checked

[stark reef]

Yeah, that's why

Good job

[idle falcon]

ty

<3

also as fury

:D

[mild thunder]

Hemochad

[idle falcon]

Galachad Chad

[mild thunder]

A good ret defs doesn’t just fall over. They still have 2 1min walls, bubble, LoH, bop and their general self-healing/passive mitigation

Easily the second/third tankiest melee in the game still

[fresh valve]

Galaglad

[mild thunder]

Galasad

[vivid pumice]

yeah but all the good rets got their wins and got out before the nerfs

the people playing ret in SS now are the ones who were a little late to the fotm craze

[fresh valve]

dont be sad

be mad

[mild thunder]

Galamad

[fresh valve]

go ret/war

shamelessness wins

[wheat jay]

Gala

[fresh valve]

ratachad

[idle falcon]

@wraith totem you have any input on this conversation?

ok

xd

[wheat jay]

Huh

[fresh valve]

talkin to algorithms

[idle falcon]

oh btw i got Infinite Timereaver while running some timewalking dungeons on my alt

i didn't even know it could drop

XD

never knew what that mount was till i got it

[spice hornet]

damn nice thats mount is extremely rare

[mild thunder]

pog

that mount is based

my best rare mount run was getting all 3 zandalari warbringer dinos in 2 days, 4 kills total

[mild thunder]

ive been mixed up with Galavant a few times, some mglad oce hunter on the same realm

people think im his alt

[wheat jay]

Lmao

Being compared to OCE player

[mild thunder]

i am an oce player

[fresh valve]

crikey!

[mild thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/crocodile-dundee-knife-sharpen-honing-waiting-gif-22322456

literally me

[fresh valve]

bloody dingos stole me barbie

nabbed the sheila I was with too

nagged me fuckin ugg boots too!

[mild thunder]

Uggs

I’m wearing mine right now

[fresh valve]

shits got me whingin out

still got me pet Joey

bloody diabolical kickboxer!

trained em me self

[stark reef]

@spice hornet you’re a believer?

In all fairness, I think the priest PI’d me there

[spice hornet]

I’ve been telling you bladestorm is a meme

So is intervene, bet you didn’t use it their either, so just drop it

It’s affected by damp anyway

[stark reef]

Intervene is a mobility spell

If my team-mate dies he dies

At least then I know who to focus next round

[spice hornet]

Well, what happens when you are running double melee and a hunter disengages away from both melee, who you@gonna intervene?

That’s why I say drop it.. too comp/situation dependent

Not good in shuff

[stark reef]

I unbind it in games like that and use improved slam on that keybind

(That means I have it bound twice)

2.4k hunters can’t handle the improved slam

[woeful solstice]

aight the trolling can stop now

[stark reef]

I am actually using imp slam vs hunters as filler

Sometimes they sit at 40% and you have no OP or MS so you just slam to push execute window

[quick carbon]

You’re disgusting

[stark reef]

🤣

It does feel dirty, I agree

I’m running the whole crit chain with imp overpower and everything and I need to put a point in that row but rend and sks don’t do anything in that build

[quick carbon]

no as in

that’s awful

Stop doing that

Just press rend as your filler

[stark reef]

Gotta unlock execute

21sec is enough to play another round of SS shuffle, nobody got time for that

[spice hornet]

When are you pushing as fury?

@stark reef

[stark reef]

Was thinking to push fury after hitting 2.4k on arms

Was 2367 today

Fury r1 title much easier but don’t think I’ll get there in time

So 2.4k first, then we’ll see

Still making extremely obvious mistakes though, feels like their is some air left above

[idle falcon]

nice

back up to rival 1 boiz

1822

from 1200 xd

question

can i only get glad title in 3v3's?

or can i get it on other modes but just not the drake

[fresh valve]

glad is 3's only

[idle falcon]

oh ok

[stark reef]

Just had an Unholy DK absolutely tear the lobby apart - wtf was that damage

That dude hit 3 times as hard as previous DK's

[spice hornet]

Sounds like you got past 2k

[mild thunder]

[fresh valve]

elo hell

[mild thunder]

elo hell is totally real, guys 🤡

[tropic siren]

anyone have a keybind guide?

[muted surge]

Go to settings, select keybinds, set them?

[tropic siren]

lol thanks man

[undone pumice]

keep ur rotation keys close to ur movment keys, ur defensives/bursts can be a bit further away

[sharp meteor]

i mean keybinds are preference

lot of good players with fucked up binds because

that's just where they put shit

13 years ago

[undone pumice]

ye

[sharp meteor]

w/e lets you comfortably hit what you need to hit

[undone pumice]

ur binds dont rlly matter but ifur new id get them close to ur movement keys to avoid pain while grinding

[tawny brook]

What is the average player solo shuffle rank do you think?

[undone pumice]

1800

[muted surge]

1.5-1.8

[sharp meteor]

idk probably like 1.2k or something really low becaause most people don't play much

everything other than r1 seems pretty free tho

[undone pumice]

id say 1200 is normal arena rating avg

[woeful solstice]

not even close

[undone pumice]

and 1800 for shuffle cuz accesibility

[tropic siren]

ic, okay. thanks. ive mouse wheeled to 2k, wondering if I should switch but it would messup a lot of key binds

[undone pumice]

wot

[tropic siren]

yeah lol

[undone pumice]

clicker?

[tropic siren]

nooooo lol mouse wheeling, like wheel up wheel down Swheel up Swheel down for rotation stuff

[undone pumice]

ah

ye i use those a lot too

[muted surge]

I mean that’s just a keybind

[undone pumice]

but not for like mortal strike and other rotation stuff

[tropic siren]

i got used to it from healing on my priest for arena targeting

[muted surge]

Couldn’t you put /cast ms /op / rend on a macro and mouseheel it

And see how far you get

[undone pumice]

why tho

[tawny brook]

If I want to use ms on cooldown why cant i just bind it and overpower on the same key

[tropic siren]

LOL like a cast sequence?!

[tawny brook]

Like ms>execute>overpower

Like a priority system lol

[undone pumice]

can someone pro make me a macro please i need help with warrior
something like this plz
/castsequence reset=20 Kidney shot, Garrote, Rupture, Blood Fury, Shiv, Vendetta, Sepsis, Vanish, Fan of Knives, Envenom, Multilate, Envenom
but i need one for furry or arms plz n ty

[stark reef]

Mouse wheel has super fast input. Lots of PvE enthusiasts swear on binding spammable to mouse wheel

[tropic siren]

LOl

[muted surge]

Exactly

[tawny brook]

What is the swifty 1 key macro someone mentioned

[undone pumice]

def makes sense, counterpoint: just click faster

[muted surge]

Just unlock your wheel

And let it spin

While getting a coffee

[tropic siren]

lol i have a 600

[undone pumice]

https://youtu.be/dap5lEuS5uM

[tropic siren]

g600*

[tawny brook]

I wanted a “better mouse” but i cant live without my gshift button

Make a wireless g600 please and thanks

[undone pumice]

my scrollwheel when i need to find funny copypasta from 3 years ago

i cant imagine going back to a big mouse again

i swapped to a viper mini sometime ago and i dont think i will ever go back to big mice

[tawny brook]

Imagine not playing the class with the best ms in the game. Every other class I try feels so bad. Warrior is the most fun in like every game

Being the chaser instead of the chasee

Lovely

[undone pumice]

all my homies like big armor and bigger weapons

[tawny brook]

Heck yea

[peak saddle]

well in WoW specifically warrior is the main character of classes

[frail badge]

as arms warr in solo shuffle should i stop using my burst opener right at the start and save it for a more useful time maybe? or best to apply the most preasure at the start like that

[undone pumice]

warrior is the maiin character in every game

[tawny brook]

Ive been trying skullsplitter against heavy armor teams and it feels awesome. Played it for a while and switched back to the “normal” build that is more execute focused and was slamma jamming like darius

[undone pumice]

aint no way

[tawny brook]

Doesnt get better

[undone pumice]

he a league player

[tawny brook]

I was

Everyone is a jabroni on there so I quit years ago

But yea, big Darius was my boy

[undone pumice]

dota better

[tawny brook]

Probably

[peak saddle]

i still am for the next 7 days until ban is over 🙈 🙈 😭

[tawny brook]

Now I reinstall every 2 years or so, try ARAM, get destroyed like 5 matches in a row because Im terribad, uninstall

[peak saddle]

imagine wating 5 min max for que

[muted surge]

How do you get banned lol

[tawny brook]

Respond angrily to the absolutely monsterous assholes that play it and then get reported

[peak saddle]

@muted surge being edgy is not allowed apperatnly

[tawny brook]

Anyone who hasnt had a chance to try ranked league should really give it a go. It is an experience like no other lol

[undone pumice]

aint no way this dude is recommedning people to play ranked league

[peak saddle]

the dopamine hit from LoL has no competition, maybe counter strike but that's

[undone pumice]

dota

[muted surge]

When I played league, I thought that jungle is fun. So for the next 50 games I got blamed by the 0:7 adc that I don’t gank enough

The mentality of league players is worse then the ones of healers in shuffle

[peak saddle]

i mean, toxicity in sports is a thing, dont get it twisted, just because you don't hear or see it on soccer \ baseball \ nba doesn't mean it's not there

competitive = toxicity

[tawny brook]

To experience the people. It definitely isn’t something I would do long term

[undone pumice]

yea but

Skarner -Alive
Skarner -Alive
Skarner -Alive
feetlicker33: mom go sky

[frail badge]

as arms warr in solo shuffle should i stop using my burst opener right at the start and save it for a more useful time maybe? or best to apply the most preasure at the start like that

[tawny brook]

Draymond Green superman punches teammates and stomps mudholes in people that fall on the court. He is like an nba mma hybrid

[old trail]

😦 went 2-1 and a guy left

only got 20 points waiting in queue for 30 mins

but he got -169'd

[old trail]

and I didnt get conq

that was a free lobby nooooooo

It was shadow priest, windwalker monk, bm hunter, 2 disc priests

[peak saddle]

should i continue with the appeal? 🙈 😳

[frail badge]

lmfao

[sharp meteor]

imma be real if u appeal with a scuffed chat log

u get banned longer

lmao

[frail badge]

i am 418 pvp il with this gear and 1390 rating in solo, should i keep trying to get rating or grind some conquest via the weekly stuff and epic bg quests to get a bit more gear for a better chance of winning in solo iyo

[peak saddle]

well sheeeeeeeeit idk if i can play LoL more than 3 weeks without losing my mind 🙈

[muted surge]

You don’t need more gear to get higher rating

[frail badge]

OK thanks I'll just try and get better then as I got just slightly above 1600 then I lost a bunch

[magic wing]

Try WoT

If youre 1v6 and win

Your heart beats fast af

[old trail]

SHEEESH

[frail badge]

Do you have any advice on knowing who I should target at any given time?That has always been my issue and I tunnel to.much sometimes but when manage to be more aware and not tunnel I tend to win more

[muted surge]

Whoever plays the worst

[frail badge]

OK thanks I'll try and do that more

[old trail]

I didnt even sweeping or smash in the first round

!

[frail badge]

Last round I noticed the enemy team had the better dps but the worst healer so I rushed and opened on healer and we won that round

[magic wing]

Feels like the game above 2k and below is completely different

Healers are way better

[old trail]

Was hoping going 5-1 gave me more than 70 points though

😦

[magic wing]

I went 3-3 at 2050 and it gave me 40 points or sum lol

[stark reef]

@old trail you're a DK main right?

[magic wing]

Game is weird

[muted surge]

Idk about that

[stark reef]

How do some DK's just oneshot everything and others hit like wet noodles in the same MMR

Is there some trade off for survival/DPS?

[old trail]

Yeah I main dk

[stark reef]

Both, Frost and Unholy seem completely random in regards to how much damage they do

[old trail]

Do you mean frost dks or unholy dks?

Oh,

For frost its about how many bounces their chillstreak crits

for UH its about arbiter crits

[stark reef]

Maybe it's also a healer issue where bad healers can't heal the cleave?

[old trail]

or garg crits

Frost also does a lot more magic damage than people think

[muted surge]

Is it worth to treat the gargoyle like the tyrant?

[old trail]

Seeing a paladin bop against a frost dk is lol'ing

Nah

[stark reef]

Some games I can just ignore DK, others my team gets completely farmed - and again, same MMR so somehow they both got there.

Also Boomkins - same thing - some don't do any damage and others just kill someone in the rootbeam

[old trail]

dks have really strong burst. Can try kiting them during their cds

and then blow them up between cds as their defensives are utter dogshit for warriors

[muted surge]

And then get grabbed 4x :<

[old trail]

after an uh dk apocs you can aoe fear

[stark reef]

Yeah, I'll have to respect that if they target me but it's more that the team just gets overwhelmed and falls apart in 30 seconds

[old trail]

also,

again uh dks

[stark reef]

Yeah, like targeting them

[old trail]

KILL THE PET

It ruins most of their damage and tier set

[stark reef]

Really? Which one?

[magic wing]

I got to 2090 and know 0 offensive cds other than warrior and ret

[old trail]

The main ghoul

[stark reef]

This is the way

[magic wing]

Which are other big ones

[old trail]

The main ghoul gets melted

[stark reef]

Don't ready anything until you have to

[old trail]

Dont hit the abom or garg

[stark reef]

🤝

[old trail]

cant really hit the army

[magic wing]

I just did big dmg

[stark reef]

That's exactly it

[old trail]

If you get the dk to dot you early in the game

[magic wing]

Skullsplitter MS ggs

[old trail]

los behind a pillar and make their pet chase you

then kill it

force raise dead to go on cd, and then cleave them down with their next pet

kill the pet early and they dont do dam

frost dk you just cant stack against

[stark reef]

Yeah, I know frost a bit better

But sometimes I get a guy a frost DK who says stuff like "let's oneshot priest" and it actually works

So i suspect they have some cooked cheese build or something

[old trail]

frost is all about the 1 shots atm

stack 2 people together, pillar > chillstreak > km proc

that'll global someone

2h oblit crits HURT

if you pressure the dk they will be pressing death strike and not oblit

🙂

[stark reef]

https://gitgudgaming.gg/ started making WA's for this stuff once I hit a brick wall at 2100. Didn't know anything before either

And Unholy plays like demo, right?

Once they pop their big CD's it's about 15sec of hell and then it's ok again

[old trail]

yup

UH literally does fuck all between their cds, depending on their build

if they're commander they go every 45 seconds

[stark reef]

Got it, yeah, I'll keep an eye on this. Just scared seeing an unholy go 6/0 but I am suspecting those two healers just couldn't handle the damage

[old trail]

if they arent they're playing a rot spec that does really good damage every minute half ish

Arms hard counters dk

[stark reef]

Yeah, agreed

[old trail]

idk about fury, but

dk's only mitigation against arms is a 3 min

and deathstrike

[magic wing]

That looks nice thx

[stark reef]

Any physical damage should own DK's and war can even face tank them

[old trail]

yeah

a war with retal up can facetank an uh dk

sorry

[stark reef]

Yeah, in-between queues reading some of those abilities helped a ton

[old trail]

die by the sword

[stark reef]

Yeah, I think that guy played the 1.5min spec and just pressed everything on the open, 3 of those rounds with PI and we just sat in it every time

Lesson learned

[old trail]

oof

PI really hurts with dk

its so much extra damage

[humble gyro]

Kill Abom asap too

[stark reef]

I was genuinely shocked. I used everything standing in live link and still died insta

[indigo barn]

The amount of work to peel off a WW thats on an autistic prevoker is fucking exhausting

[woeful solstice]

just kill him

[magic wing]

I hate prevoker

[old trail]

hate any class with the letter e in it

[tawny brook]

This is bhajeeras build

Is losing bloodborne and fueled by violence worth the fatality and executioners precision

[old trail]

why do people go warbreaker instead of blunt intruments? (usually)

[tawny brook]

Would be pretty nice in chad bladstorm

I use the blunt instruments usually though

[old trail]

I find WB is really only better against double melee

[tawny brook]

I havent done much with seeing like 95k absorbed against a mage was cool

[old trail]

only 1 point into bloodborne?

[tawny brook]

Thats what he showed. That is a screenshot from his “normal” build

On a video

Like no one used fatality or executioners precision

I may just switch back to fueled and bloodborne

I also hate honed reflexes

Idk im gonna try it one match and see how nice execute phase feels

[indigo barn]

There's a bajillion pets right now so having your CS hit both players instead of it being sweeped onto a pet means you can swap more effectively when they wall

[old trail]

o

Thats true

[indigo barn]

Also CS doesn't buff its own damage on the hit

And many people Ava after smash

Throw in the fact that you can also pad means that you are better even if you go 0-6

[tawny brook]

Im currently going avatar, cs, roar, bladstorm

As my burst

Is that order wrong

[indigo barn]

Depends on who your playing against

[old trail]

wait

[indigo barn]

I think it was pilav who said to smash people then wait a moment. At lower MMR people will blow there defensive load just from the CS cast, which means you can wait for CS to come.off cooldown and blow them up when they don't have anything

[old trail]

are you suppose to ava then smash?

Im running blademaster's torment

[indigo barn]

Not with BM torment

Always smash then avar with torment

[old trail]

kk

thats what I thought but I am new

I've been doing sharpen>sweeping>smash>roar>avatar

not sure if thats right or not but its been working

[teal hedge]

I do avatar first

[muted surge]

Smash does damage

Why not buff it

[teal hedge]

^

Oh wait you run torment

I'd actually go recklessness over torment

Sure, bladestorm is le funny, but big damage is le funnier

[old trail]

but Im running unhinged too

[teal hedge]

So am I

[old trail]

you'd do avatar>smash>bladestorm?

I thought bladestorm was mainly used for utility

[teal hedge]

I use bladestorm for big damage, but yeah, it's good if they're slowed and you're rooted

Generally speaking, I use it mostly as a finisher

(I don't have a cancel bind, but it can lead to execute-windows if used properly)

[muted surge]

Oh if you run blade master then yea

[torpid roost]

I run unhinged, bladestorm is good for damage but it's much better as utility

[muted surge]

???

/cancelaura bs /cast pummel

Same for charge etc

[teal hedge]

You use bladestorm to do funny damage

[torpid roost]

Pummel or charge, yeah, good place to have it

[teal hedge]

And then, when they drop low you hit em' wit da execute

[muted surge]

Not having cancel just cucks you

[teal hedge]

True!

[muted surge]

How

If you are spinning

And doing negative damage

[teal hedge]

You cancel spin and then go execute

[torpid roost]

Unhinged does decent damage

[muted surge]

Unhinged yes

[teal hedge]

Yeah, I run unhinged

[muted surge]

But you cancel after the second ms

[teal hedge]

Yeah, that's what I meant

[muted surge]

And don’t spin after unless you want to avoid cc

[torpid roost]

Oooooo, I don't even track that but it makes sense

[teal hedge]

You cancel it and hit execute

Missed many kills but not fixing my macros

[muted surge]

You can just listen to the sound

[muted surge]

That’s stupid

[torpid roost]

implying game sounds

[muted surge]

The immersion, man

[torpid roost]

My macros are fine, my ui is a fucking war crime though

[woeful solstice]

a story in two parts

[torpid roost]

Misterlister, Sisterfister, good 2's name combo

I miss arena team names

Though most of mine quickly became <Kahuna's Team>

[lean burrow]

anyone knows what this icon is?

on enemy lock

[indigo barn]

Crafted helm dot

[lean burrow]

ty

[tawny brook]

Queues taking 30 minutes, join queue and go to pee, queue pops 30 seconds later, miss it. Queue after, 30 minute queue

Missed 3 today, feels like a punishment of some kind

[undone pumice]

me when shuffle queue is declined by a healer for the 8th time

[vapid tartan]

anyone have a stormbold focus target macro

[undone pumice]

/cast @sterile wharf Storm Bolt

@sterile wharf change ur name

[muted surge]

@sterile wharf

[mild thunder]

wtf bro

he said storm bold

[sterile wharf]

Stormbolt

Lmao

[quick carbon]

I hate stormbolt shockwave superior

[tepid stag]

#showtooltip
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast [@sterile wharf] Storm Bolt

[mild thunder]

yes

[elfin surge]

#showtooltip
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast [@fickle forge ] Storm Bolt

[fickle forge]

#showtooltip @elfin surge
/cancelaura @elfin surge
/cast [@elfin surge ] Storm Bolt

[mild thunder]

mud is canceled confirmed

[warped warren]

[mild thunder]

the duality of wow

[magic wing]

Happens to me all the time

[spark zenith]

Feel like I'm doing no dmg anymore

[bright stream]

@mild thunder 70 second round - healer 2400 cr

right after he called the hunter out for not using turtle

[spark zenith]

What's the easiest 2400 class atm

[lean burrow]

ret

[spark zenith]

Still?

Doesn't feel like it

[mild thunder]

then why ask

bruh

[magic wing]

Ret is still good

[lean burrow]

why do rets use crusade talent now?

[mild thunder]

most of them dont

[lean burrow]

i play 3s, every single ret uses crusade

idk why

i'm hardstuck rival

[mild thunder]

most of the top rets dont, and ive only run into 1 that did

so idk you're probably just versing the same guy over and over

iirc the wings nerfs dont apply to crusader so that's probably why a few are running it tho... can be amped up to +30% dmg, healing and haste

[graceful ginkgo]

23%

[muted surge]

If you struggle on ret, I have bad news for you

[mild thunder]

you're a god gamer

[muted surge]

On low rating every ret has that

But it’s a good thing that I read the ability for once kek

[fickle forge]

2 min CD? 🤔

[mild thunder]

yea the downside of crusade is that it doubles the CD

bigger buff, bigger CD

[muted surge]

Seems worse

The 1 min bursts are just so good

[lean burrow]

so uh, since pennant is on PTR needs 100 wins in shuffle

I queued shuffle and now 2.6k

and queues are now even longer

did I fuck up?

is it better to just stay on 2.4k and farm wins?

[mild thunder]

i dont get what that has to do with pennant?

[sharp meteor]

what do u mean lol

legend = pennant

[graceful ginkgo]

It’s 23% in PvP

[mild thunder]

legend next season = pennant

right?

[sharp meteor]

yes

but also this seas

[mild thunder]

is there a pennant this ssn?

[sharp meteor]

no but there will be in 2 weeks

[mild thunder]

ahh

a reward so underwhelming i didnt know it existed

is it actually moggable or is it a shitty toy?

shitty toy

[magic wing]

Pennant is outdated

Orc banner bis

[mild thunder]

another shitty toy

[sharp meteor]

we didn't know until a few days ago

so when season shipped they said pennant reward, but along with tabard and illusion it'd be ready later

legend was also added later

so ig they decided it'd be the shuffle glad reward

[mild thunder]

they need to seriously buff soloQ rewards if they want it to be the future of wow pvp, which apparently they do

[sharp meteor]

why lol it's already the most popular mode

[lean burrow]

how do I find consistent team to queue with?

[mild thunder]

it is the most popular, so it should probably see some more impressive/significant rewards than a toy pennant

[magic wing]

Solo shuffle should give m+ level rewards, like a budget mount or something

[copper hare]

literally gives elite sets for 1.8

which an ape without arms can archive

[wary heart]

R1 is a meme

[magic wing]

The same ape can achieve that in 2s or 3s

I know cuz I always did

[wary heart]

the average wow player is not a good pvp'er

[copper hare]

what do you mean you always did, it's the first season with shuffle

and the people who struggle to get 1.8 in shuffle WONT be 1.8 in 2s or 3s

[wary heart]

that's only because 3s is an unpopulated wasteland

so blizzards mmr™️ system is a madeup uncomparable across season disaster

saying you're a 2.X xp pvper when you got that in s2 sl is a joke

[magic wing]

I mean Im shit at pvp and always got the set when I tried

SS 2s or 3s doesnt matter

[copper hare]

you won't now, 2s and 3s aren't what they used to be like in bfa or SL because nobody plays it anymore.
So let's get back to your shuffle statement in the first place. M+ players get a useless mount that can't even fly and shuffle get elite sets and illusion for free. And you also get these marks that you can trade for mounts

what else would u want for shuffle

[wary heart]

give healers the glad mount if they hit 100 games above 2400

idgaf about the cosmetics, i want shorter queues

that would fix queues in a day

[copper hare]

You know that healing will even feel worse next season

when they increase damage and hp because they think healing is too powerful

[wary heart]

they're going to rework all healers into fistweavers

we'll be playing RSS tank queues every match

[copper hare]

So fun actually that they think healing is too powerful when it's only the case in raids. Pvp and m+ will suffer so much from it

[wary heart]

hpal for sure will become melee wings soon

[mild thunder]

m+ gives the worst rewards of any endgame content lmao

a ground mount that everyone has because ksm is a participation trophy

and portals that are obsolete because dungeon rotations are seasonal now

[mild thunder]

?

the stamina increase was already counteracted in pvp, and cc, kick duration and burst have all been nerfed to make healing feel a bit easier in ssn2

[muted surge]

At what rating do you get the sparking tier set

2.4? Or is it 2.1

[mild thunder]

2.4

[muted surge]

Okay that’s a joke then

2.5 in m+ and mythic clear for raid

M+ is too easy :(

[magic wing]

The spark shit is worthless

And I dont see a reason to not give cool rewards to SS. Shorter ques is good

2s and 3s are LFG gamemodes

[mild thunder]

no one said soloQ shouldnt get better rewards, esp for higher rating

but you said it should get m+ rewards, and m+ has the worst rewards in the game

if anything, m+ is the best example of the fact that people will spam fun content no matter how shit the rewards are purely because the content is fun, which means that's what blizzard should work on instead of just the reward structure

[idle falcon]

fury > arms, change my mind

[undone pumice]

more weapon

but wack weapon

[idle falcon]

yes

more weapon = more dmg

[magic wing]

True

Especially pve

[copper hare]

you mean where arms is better in raid and they're pretty even in m+?

probably changes next season but still

[idle falcon]

fury best in M+ what do you mean

[magic wing]

I mean fun wise

And fury in m+ is better

[copper hare]

it's not way better, it depends on how you pull and what key you play. It's better for prio and single target while arms is better if you perform giga pulls constantly and have no other uncapped spec in your grp

Idk, I can't play fury anymore, 1 hour of 130 apm and I wanna kms

[tepid stag]

based

[copper hare]

I still think fury has way too much rage during reck and the extra haste in enrage feels too much, but that's just my opinion because I'm a boomer

[mild thunder]

W take

you need adhd to enjoy fury

[tepid stag]

just play arms overpower > cleave

occasional whirlwind

[mild thunder]

fury feels too punished by bad pulls/too CD dependent

it's not fun

and the 4buttons > ww > 4buttons > ww rotation feels like a chore

[tepid stag]

in bfa it was 2 buttons

[mild thunder]

it's really weird design imo... it's literally your ST rotation but less smooth

and that's the intended design

[worthy fern]

Remember passive sweepings strikes

And executioners being a buff on you instead of a debuff on target

[magic wing]

I love fury pve rotation

[worthy fern]

Legion arms will never be topped imo

[magic wing]

True

ToS arms

[worthy fern]

Yes

[magic wing]

Worst was FoB

Spin to win

[copper hare]

you must be drunk!

[magic wing]

Its so smooth

[mild thunder]

smooth-brain

[worthy fern]

Yea I think I played ww when fob was meta

[mild thunder]

arms ST is pretty fun atm imo

got a lot of tools to manage our rage

[worthy fern]

We actually have a close design to tos now

If I think about it

Rend unhinged and ep

[mild thunder]

fury will never be fun while it's this current pseudo-combo point spec with only one finisher

[worthy fern]

Wish we could have gathering storm and unhinged

[idle falcon]

thing is with arms

i can never get the rotation right

[worthy fern]

I think fury is most fun when raging blow hits hard

Big meaty rb chunks into rampages

[mild thunder]

tbf arms is terminally S tier

we cant complain

[fossil mortar]

There was one week arms wasn't S, and you would think the sky was falling in here

U funny

[modern zenith]

xd

[obsidian loom]

Lole

[stark reef]

Arms rotation is extremely unsatisfying

[obsidian loom]

Arms is boring rend bot

[stark reef]

Playing arms in raid is actual torture

[obsidian loom]

I need zoomers GCD uncap fury

I tried fury in shuffle after a while and you just fall over dead lmao

[stark reef]

Exactly, I had to force myself to unlearn constantly stuttering with WASD waiting for this fucking GCD on arms

Ran into stuff in raid because I was constantly running left and right

[mild thunder]

i dont know what people mean by "waiting for GCDs" on arms... we're a gcd-locked spec lmao

[stark reef]

It’s slow

[mild thunder]

we have virtually infinite rage and something to always spend it on

[stark reef]

It feels slow

I guess fury is not much faster but it feels faster because attacks hit several times

Pressing rampage alone just feels good

[mild thunder]

fury so fun, linear spec, 1234123412341234

[fossil mortar]

That is a lie. It is 112 112 112

[stark reef]

It just feels explosive. Arms feels very slow.

Yes, that is true

Hitting a hunter and seeing the turtle animation as the round ends

[lean burrow]

how tf is it slow

with so many off gcd shit to press

[stark reef]

Not in raid

In raid you’re just standing there

[mild thunder]

you still use IP in raid...

[lean burrow]

stance dancing, sr, ip, intervene, I wish it were slower

[fossil mortar]

? Ya drunk if you just stand there

[idle falcon]

zug zug 24/7

[mild thunder]

i play my warrior alts

[lean burrow]

alts are only for rival sets

[fossil mortar]

Got all the classes, and three warriors

[lean burrow]

warrior for fun

[stark reef]

24/7 but could see myself enjoying DK

[mild thunder]

i need to lvl more warriors tho... ive got Gnomechomsky, Moosashi, Kravmaghar, Geralt, Swoleosis and Lobotomite ready to lvl

bayzed

ive got Tyrael, Geralt and Yennefer all on my server

also have Genghis and Balerion

[stark reef]

Funny thing, other games I often play ranged. League I mained ADC, ESO I played mag sorc, LOTRO I played a combo class.

Playing war just kind of started with classic in 2019 and never stopped.

[mild thunder]

oh ive also got Hawkeye

[stark reef]

Got into WoW with classic launch

[lean burrow]

just do your combo of eye beam essence break blade dance

nobody ever tracks essence break so nobody presses defensive for that

the hunt with weapon and trinket proc

[mild thunder]

oh so important note

Glimpse has been nerfed and no longer removes disarm

[lean burrow]

huh

I should take disarm vs them now?

[mild thunder]

must've been a shadow nerf because it was never mentioned

ye

[stark reef]

But yeah, with arms slow it’s mostly the feel. Stuff like the audio. It’s just “kutchunk……kutchunk….kutchunk”

[mild thunder]

if they're not playing with a caster, just kick eye beam because that blocks E. Break and then disarm them

and you can do that every go

[ebon pivot]

I got a buncha alts but most of em are just more warriors

[lean burrow]

why kick when you can be ready to disarm next global

[stark reef]

Reflecting the hunt is the best feeling ever

[mild thunder]

you cant reflect the hunt initial hit

[stark reef]

The dot

[mild thunder]

because it's an extended cc chain

and they cant trinket a kick

turns a ~6s disarm into a 10s cc chain

[lean burrow]

i don't know, it's not like they can't do anything in a kick

does it lock out everything?

[mild thunder]

they cant EB, which is their major burst

and they dont want to blade dance outside of EB because then they wont have it

EB is only a ~4s window, pre short

and they cant chaos strike

[stark reef]

Any shot they remove racial abilities? I want to play undead again but gnome is just to free

[mild thunder]

no

and if you aren't a r1 player then racials dont matter lol

[fossil mortar]

Nelf for life

[tepid stag]

they should let u just pick and choose tbh

[stark reef]

I feel like the root break is big on war tbh

Many games I win because of that

Even at my rating

Eating a 6sec root vs not is absolutely game deciding for war imo

[mild thunder]

you're definitely not winning because of a racial

[fossil mortar]

Rootbreak is big? Try immunity frame with meld

[mild thunder]

smeld is big, fireblood is big, EMfH is big, orc reduc is big, stoneform is big etc etc.

pretty much all the racials can produce high-value outcomes in the right hands

and even the best ones are useless when retards are using them

[stark reef]

I wish undead racial removed mindcontrol

[fossil mortar]

Yeah, but meld comes with free nelf female animations

Winner

[tepid stag]

saw snutz play against a cheating druid who melded every axe toss perfectly every time

[mild thunder]

melding a disarm is giga

but yea anyone that makes race-picks on racials/fotm instead of aesthetic is a cuck

[stark reef]

I played gnome all of classic and started orc in retail for raid, then went gnome, just don’t like the new model

[lean burrow]

disarm can be melded? wut

it's not instant?

[stark reef]

Definitely think gnome is a big advantage compared to undead

It’s on a 1min CD, to

So you can use it freely

[sharp meteor]

meld can eat anything

[fossil mortar]

Disarm depends, warrior go zing and you get hit in ng

[sharp meteor]

hard to reliably meld a disarm tho lmao

[lean burrow]

wouldn't disarm just not get used because no target?

[fossil mortar]

I am too old to care or react now days. Now I just do things like meteors and shit

[lean burrow]

like fear wouldn't get used if rogue suddenly vanishes or whatever

[stark reef]

If you're an autist and press your buttons 6 times over you'ill disarm the wrong target

[idle falcon]

i will try arms once again in PvE

[stark reef]

Happens to me with hunters all the time where they feign death and I csmash the pet

[mild thunder]

racials dont matter in low rating

if you're low rated there are 10 billion things you should focus on first lmao

[fossil mortar]

Lies! With nelf at low rating you get ez +100% winrate

[stark reef]

I mean 2.4k can't really be called "low rating" can it?

[mild thunder]

in shuffle? yes it can

[stark reef]

It's not peak performance but that's about 2100 in 2s/3s

[fossil mortar]

2.4 is low no? Kinda like how 3k Rio is low

[mild thunder]

omega fucking cope

2.4 is 1800 MAX in 2s or 3s lmao

[stark reef]

I mean I just found out yesterday that I allegedly hit 2k in 2s at some point in SL and I don't even know who I played with or what the meta was

I think people just died to banner oneshot

Definitely put more effort into this climb than whatever that was

[fossil mortar]

I got 2k in SL boosting the whole guild to 1800

[stark reef]

But I have a 2k achievement on this war for an SL season

And when I say I was clueless I mean it. Literally just ran at people and pressed rotation

[mild thunder]

boosting pve-ers is maximum brainrot

[stark reef]

PvErs get free 1800

If they actually push in PvE

[mild thunder]

also not true

[fossil mortar]

Please use your cc. "But my DPS!" Plays rogue

[mild thunder]

how do you consistently have the worst takes? it's impressive

[copper hare]

people that never had 1.8 in 3s are 3k in shuffle because they play one of the meta specs

[stark reef]

Well I guess my guild was secretly playing PvP on burner accounts

[copper hare]

so 2.4 in shuffle is reeeeally low

[stark reef]

I am telling you, these guys didn't play arena for more than 30 games a season

We're talking "please do some pvp so you get tier set for raid"

2k rating in 2s

[mild thunder]

nah bro, they just found their true spec

they were ret mains all along

[copper hare]

ret main since classic ofc

[fossil mortar]

I spot fury

[mild thunder]

deserved

[stark reef]

I'm sure you guys know those type of guilds. New patch drops, Officers put up a pin "please do M+ and some PvP to keep raid spot"

Can't call that a PvPer, can you?

[fossil mortar]

They never say that

[stark reef]

?

[fossil mortar]

Everyone knows that

You don't need to say it

If you had to, ya in the wrong guild

[stark reef]

Same point, I'm saying it's standard practice and these people get 1800

[mild thunder]

so you're saying they regularly pvp?

[stark reef]

No, they PvP 30 games/season

Fill vault, that's it

[fossil mortar]

Ye 1800 is piss ez early season (except now with solo out)

[stark reef]

Exactl;y

[mild thunder]

yea, so they regularly pvp lmao... only takes 2-3 seasons of that many games to learn the fundamentals of pvp

[fossil mortar]

^ this

[mild thunder]

CE players that have NEVER touched pvp before do not get free 1800 lmao

[stark reef]

True, most play wow for 5years+

But they don't play meta, run their raid builds in arena, etc

They'll throw on the conq set if they have it, that's it

[mild thunder]

the actual translation of raid skills to pvp skills is fucking non-existent... m+ on the other hand is a much easier transition imo

[fossil mortar]

That is why they team up with pvpers, to fix that

So you don't get the rogue that don't stun

I hate my phone

[stark reef]

PvE players do know how to do damage

People that start in PvP often do not

I say start as in, level to 70, start PvPing

PvE players also know how to use comms efficiently

[scarlet flame]

no the fuck they dont

2 people talk in raid, the rest are mutes

pve coms and pvp coms are different they are not interchangeable

[fossil mortar]

They still do calls and shit tho, right? God I hope for your sake

[stark reef]

In my experience people talk to much during raid and eventually it has to be reigned in

[mild thunder]

^

[scarlet flame]

talking nonsense or calling out 1 mechanic are not the same as pvp coms

[stark reef]

People call CDs, positioning, their resources, etc.

[mild thunder]

no the fuck they dont

[fossil mortar]

^ true

[scarlet flame]

if you have 25 different people all calling out their own shit your raid is trash

[mild thunder]

who is calling out "i have 60 rage" in fucking raid

[sharp meteor]

spec only exists to put people on dr then die

[stark reef]

"I have no mobility, need grip", "Link down, stand in it", "Moving this over to you", "Don't break CC"

Standard comms

[scarlet flame]

no one says that shit

[sharp meteor]

LMAO

[stark reef]

What?

Who are you raiding with?

[scarlet flame]

people who aren't braindead

[mild thunder]

i raid your mum every night

gottem

[fossil mortar]

In PVP I only go 'ready to pump in 10', then we go in

[scarlet flame]

if you need that level of handholding you are in a garbage trash tier guild bro

[mild thunder]

i pump your mum every night

gottem

[copper hare]

BIG DAM

into 25k non crit mortal strike

[fossil mortar]

Repeat it for more dam

[stark reef]

That is some heavy cope

[scarlet flame]

its not cope

[mild thunder]

" i have the biggest fucking dmg coming up"

• my dmg heals them

[scarlet flame]

you thinking 1 person babysitting 24 other people is the same as pvp coms you are out of your mind

they aren't the same thing just because its talking

[copper hare]

I played in world 50 guilds where people can't even call externals when they get an ability and don't have anything to press

there is monkeys everywhere

in both pve and pvp

[mild thunder]

^

[fossil mortar]

Always the godplayer who is a mute. One day he streams, and he is playing with rave up at 400% volume

[stark reef]

Wdym? I raided with WF raiders and my CE guild was 200. People talk. 1 guy talking is maybe 200 pulls in when everything is on autopilot.

[muted surge]

The avg raider doesn’t talk

[fossil mortar]

When things are on auto, we usually talk about how cool fishes would be with arms

[scarlet flame]

people post their WF kills

you can watch the videos

of 2 people speaking mechanics

[stark reef]

Yeah, that's 300 pulls in

[scarlet flame]

and everyone else not

[stark reef]

Ofc you don't talk after doing the same shit 300 times

[scarlet flame]

if you think they're talking strats in the middle of pulls you're dumber than i thought

[muted surge]

You talk before and after, not during

[stark reef]

People call important stuff mid pull, wtf is this cope here?

[muted surge]

And I have never heared a dps call for an external

???

[scarlet flame]

yeah the people calling the important shit are the raid leader

[muted surge]

You have the raidlead that does that

[scarlet flame]

the 1 person whos supposed to talk

[mild thunder]

calling important mechanics now and again is not the same as pvp comms lmao

[stark reef]

Not mechanics

[mild thunder]

now im convinced you've never used proper pvp comms

[copper hare]

nah not really

[stark reef]

People calling for priest grip

[muted surge]

And dedicated people like the eggers on brood, but only 1 calls something

[stark reef]

Stuff liek that

[mild thunder]

yea, that's also not the same... having 1 person call priest grip every 2 minutes lol

[copper hare]

everyone who plays wow is a fucking nerd man

[mild thunder]

pvp comms is constant, off-the-cuff communication

[copper hare]

xd

[mild thunder]

pve is scripted

[scarlet flame]

you have people in pvp watching 10 different cooldowns just to put up CC chains or line up CDS and the match lasts 3 minutes

[fossil mortar]

PvP coms is 90% "I am dying, dying"

[scarlet flame]

you dont have a 17 minute boss fight with 1 person talking maybe 7 times the entire fight

[tepid stag]

sometimes i wonder if ppl from other classes or newcomers to pvp in general come peep in here and are turned off

[scarlet flame]

they aren't the same thing

you can casually pvp and not care. if you want to get good at pvp the curve is high and off putting

[mild thunder]

i fucking hope so

[muted surge]

That’s the point

[fossil mortar]

To be fair, solo shuffle is comless... So PvP is now more comless than raids

[scarlet flame]

true

[fossil mortar]

Raids as such got the best coms

[mild thunder]

soloQ isn't real pvp

[fossil mortar]

Ok grandpa

[stark reef]

SoloQ is the only PvP that matters

[scarlet flame]

soloq is bgs with 6 people

[mild thunder]

soloQ is glorified pve

[stark reef]

3s and 2s is cope

[scarlet flame]

why is awc 3s and not soloq

[fossil mortar]

It is what PvP is now tho

[scarlet flame]

the only pvp that matters is awc

[stark reef]

AWC is watched by 9k bots

Nobody cares

[scarlet flame]

the only people who care about soloQ are walmart brand gladiators crying about healers

[mild thunder]

your soloQ games are watched by zero bots or real people

nobody cares

[muted surge]

I legit can’t watch it. It’s so boring

[stark reef]

I tried to

It's horrendous

[fossil mortar]

And yet, soloque won and 3/3s is going the way of the dodo

[stark reef]

Actual pain

[scarlet flame]

the games are great an the casters are great

you guys are retarded

[stark reef]

Hahahahahahaaha

The cope is just right today

[scarlet flame]

if you didn't think echo coming back for a reverse sweep on the worst comp they could vs ret wasn't insane you dont like pvp

[muted surge]

The mdi is more fun to watch, but still boring

[fossil mortar]

[copper hare]

the fact that they don't even have real Lans anymore and only seperated EU and NA region finals shows that blizzard gave up on pvp aswell

[scarlet flame]

true that does suck

lans were great

[stark reef]

Race to world first is fun to keep tabs on imo - always watching it

[fossil mortar]

PvP is too messy to watch

[muted surge]

Didn’t the players have to pay for their flight?